I'll be Brief
by birky on Sep 4, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintNot a whole lot to talk about right now. The ACC staff laid down the base layers of the ice surface yesterday. Kovalchuk's contract was approved by the NHL after the league and PA negotiated new conditions on long-term contracts. College football kicks into high gear today. The Rookie Tournament is a week away. Hockey is just around the corner folks.
Links after the jump.
Saturday links:
A behind the scenes look at the Kovalchuk negotiations
D G B.
Reports: NHL to Approve Ilya Kovalchuk Contract with New Jersey Devils
ILWT looks at the Kovalchuk deal.
Tomas Kaberle 2010-2011 Preview
Leafs Nation Online continues the season preview series.
Leafs HQ with a round-up of talk around the league.
Marlies prospects in 2010-2011: Forwards
MLHS looks at, well, the Marlies forward prospects.
Loser Domi. Need I say more?
Maple Leafs Legends looks at the former center.
Some things we hear before and during every training camp--it's part of the fun
Vintage Leaf Memories examines repeating storylines of Buds training camp.
Sorry for the lack of substance today folks. Missed your link? Throw it in the comments.
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hopefully you;’ll be safe!
Colton Orr will pound you into a million stuff
by Future_considerations on Sep 4, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s only a tropical storm now.
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you’re a dick
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you may need to refer to the PPP dictionary for further explanation.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
PS: its a joke.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Halifax is a fun city
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 5, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed the train and I dont care.
Today was a Chevelday – Ice Kuba
Staal – Geto Boyes.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
If Kadri DOESNT make the show
To start the year, I will eat my hat and post the video on youtube.
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Sep 4, 2010 8:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Better get the ketchup ready; Burke started Penner, Ryan, Perry, and Getzlaf in the AHL.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens. - Certified Grabbo Lover
It’s tough because he has shown a trend in how he’s deployed these guys, I’d say that Ryan is the best comparable as he was a top 5 draft pick. I’m still not sure where he’ll be.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think its going to be Burke choice; it will be Kadri’s. By that I mean, if Kadri EARN his spot on the team than he will get it. However if he doesn’t than we will see him on the Marlies. It will be all up to Nazem.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 4, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan
started his pro career in the AHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I know, that was my point, Getzlaf and Perry were higher 1st round picks so they might not be the best comparables, my point was that if Ryan started in the AHL Kadri is likely to as well.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Getzlaf and Perry
were lower 1st round picks… and they both started in the AHL also.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ryan was the only one of the 3
taken before Kadri.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ryan was 2nd overall
Getzlaf was 19th and Perry was 28th.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I KNOW THAT.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I meant. I’m agreeing with you, but I’m just saying that Ryan is the better example to use when looking for comparables.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
you said higher… I took that to mean earlier, not later.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yea, I flubbed the wording.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer malt vinegar and salt. Really makes that cotton/nylon blend quite palatable. The plastic rims are tough though, good luck!
by fatassjackson on Sep 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering
how that has worked out for all of those players… and the fact that Burke has started Bozak, Hanson, and Stalberg out with a lot of AHL time (mixed in with some NHL time). I think even if Kadri STARTS the season in the NHL, he’ll see a lot of AHL time this season.
If he starts in the NHL, and rips it up out of the gate, he’ll stay up… if he doesn’t… he can look forward to a demotion at some point when he hits a cold stretch and screws things up defensively which is pretty inevitable for a rookie.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I think you are safe. Burke said he’s getting a tryout. But this is bookmarked just in case.
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He was a tit hair away
From making the team last year. Its a forgone conclusion this year. My Leaf has is safe.
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Sep 4, 2010 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
@DarrenDreger starting up the rumour mill
DarrenDreger
Devils have a big cap problem. Leafs would happily take on a contract, perhaps send the, or a player to AHL for a nice juicey draft pick(s)
20 miles to Legoland!
Here they come
Salvador + 1st or Zubrus +1st for Brayden Irwin!!!!!!!!
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Sep 4, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
3.4 for Zubrus at 32 for 3 more years. They better sweethen that deal for the Leafs
Brain: The irony of it all, Pinky. Years of trying to take over the world, and all I had to do was say "truculence".
Follow me I'm Boring!
by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 4, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
screw Zubrus! Langenbrunner for Irwin!!!!
by Schenn4captain on Sep 4, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
They won't deal Langenbrunner
he’s only signed through this season… so he comes off the books after this year… it’s a good contract.
Zubrus is a bad contract… they’ll try to move him first.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
And Langs has an NTC.
In Lou We Trust: Continuing a saga no one really cares about
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Sep 4, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and we dont want him, he was captain of team usa…. gag.
Kool as KuKumbers Kulemin.... and hopefully Kadri.
wait
I take this to mean it’s now guaranteed we’ll gett Lagenbrunner.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Sep 6, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
For a genius, Lou sure has signed some idiotic veteran UFA deals. Zubrus is bad, but Rolston is probably the most underrated horrendous contract in the league. Almost as bad as Redden.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Sep 4, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
the arnott trade was also……ill advised
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not going to happen
All of the players that New Jersey would want to part with ; Salvador, Zubrus, Rolston, maybe Arnott; are all too old, for too much money, and aside from Arnott are all on longer than 1 year deals which sucks.
When I read the nickname Testicula, the first thing that popped into my head was a vampiristic scrotum that can only be killed with a silver cross driven through the vas deferens. - Certified Grabbo Lover
yup, that would have to be one hella sweetened pot for Burkie to bite
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I could see a trade between Leafs and NJD happening if the Devils had a vastly overpaid defenceman.
Bitter Leaf Fan: because sometimes there's no option but to be bitter...
Or perhaps
a “tough” winger making about $2 million more than he should?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Funny.
It’s not like Dreger to rumor monger unless there’s something to it. This seems kinda low-brow for him.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
I think it’s more a statement of fact than anything.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t get the impression from that tweet that the two sides were already talking about a deal.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
No, but that the Leafs would be a team with the ability to make a deal.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
yup, leafs have a shit ton of disposable income and no first round pick/ very few blue chip prospects. So it makes “sense”.
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, plus mentioning the Leafs= followers.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean he is a reporter for Toronto Sports Network. I’d think he would involve the Leafs in any speculation, before another team, due to that fact alone.
by fatassjackson on Sep 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually..
TSN is The Sports Network.
They do a cross country tour every year, and do pre-season evals on ALL Canadian hockey teams.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The joke
you missed it.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Sep 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Toronto Sports Network is more tired than Not Another Free Trade Agreement.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
why oh why would a media outfit located in Toronto spend energy catering to a city with over 5 million inhabitants in a country of 38 million? Or southern ontario with it’s 10 million inhabitants for that matter?
I mean it’s only a quarter of the population of the entire country… how idiotic of them!
They should focus more on Edmonton or Calgary with their combined population of 2 million!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sarcasm is the lowest form of humour..
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the highest?
Slapstick?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
nevermind
fart jokes ftw.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Umm
satire is ironic typically – particularly sarcastic.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I need to stop saying umm
as my header… apologies.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Haha yeah I was just going to mock you for that.
Sarcasm is fine with me.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
steve, you’re just chalk full of idiosyncracies.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren't we all?
it’s what makes us special… and unique… and such.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I think at this point being completely boring and normal would be considered idiosyncratic. Normal is the new eccentric.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
mind = blown
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with this is
there’s never been any such thing as normal, so what you’re saying has always been true.
If someone were perfectly average they’d be a hermaphrodite with no political leanings who didn’t have a favourite team in any sport worth mentioning… they’d also love the colour beige.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
grey FTW.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true, but I think that the desire to stand out and be unique is much more amplified now than it was in the past, but these things go in waves historically speaking.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Except
I don’t think that’s particularly true… people have always wanted to stand out amongst their peers… keeping up with the jones’ is part of reality for most people.
Thing is, these days for kids being “different” amounts to getting a tattoo, listening to loud metal/hip hop, and wearing some sort of label on your clothes. I don’t think it’s particularly “different” these days … heck it’s like we’re back in the 80’s… which says a lot.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Very true, although I guess the medium has changed a lot as well with facebook and other social networking sites, the concept of a “digital identity” is becoming salient.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
loud metal and hip hop rule though
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
but I thought the same thing when I was in grade 7 (and still do) so kids aren’t being “different”…
It’s like the south park episode where Stan becomes a goth and has to do everything the “alternative kids” tell him to.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Your face is the lowest form of humour.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
woops
Canada only has 34 million people… make that one third of the country’s population in southern ontario.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Its funny, when I counter with: if you had a product you could sell to 5 million ppl or 2 million ppl, what would you broadcast? That shuts the albertans up pretty quickly.
Also: it’s not my fault. Write the damn CRTC a letter if you have a problem. Otherwise, don’t bitch to me about it.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
change the numbers
to 10 million and 2 million… for accuracy sake.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Another option for them
would be they could move to Toronto… then it would be catering to them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
5 million for GTA, vs entire population of Alberta.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but Leafs fans kinda spread out all over Ontario really…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
But we agree on the general point
so this is kibbles and bits.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
this is true.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh i know, across the country even. I mean as a counter to the Toronto Sports Network. and the Toronto being the centre of the universe, typical comments.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The easiest thing
I find to say is… Toronto is the centre of Canada’s Media Universe for the most part, and the rest of the country revolves around it… if that bothers them they could move to the US where it revolves around New York, LA, and Chicago.
If it makes them feel better, our politics seem to revolve around their small minded neo-conservative inklings… what matters more in reality?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
The last thing I want to get into is an “Alberta advantage” argument, revolving around economy, etc. Because the economic argument is really one-sided.
Now with 25% fewer operable limbs.
- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean
when their commodity well runs dry and the province turns into a ghost town? or the whole thing about tailings ponds? Yeah I find the fact that they have little to nothing to do with the economy under their feet, and the fact that they act like they had something to do with GEOLOGY a little idiotic… but hey that’s just me.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Regardless of how it got here, the economy of the province is driven by the petroleum industry and always will be.
Yep, it’s myopic. But it also survived the latest recession a hell of a lot better than other provinces.
It also keeps the idiot-quotient nice and high.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
PS: I’ve also learned to live with the fact that the driving percentage of albertans are either oil patch or farmers. aka, hicks.
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Its high time they started catering to the 800,000 or so New Brunswickers out there.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear PEI is a growing market
we best start with potato jokes
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets open SportsCentre with QMJHL hilights!!!
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss the days when every Canadian NHL team (even the Jets!) had their AHL affiliate in the Maritimes
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss the days
when the people in the Maritimes stayed in the Maritimes (yanno when they had jobs)… kidding!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Heh, ain’t no jobs here, especially for teachers like myself.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Teach me how to jerk, teach teach me how to jerk..
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
if that don’t come naturally to you, I don’t know what to tell ya
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I get how they feel… I actually tend to ignore all of the information they pass on about the Saskatchewan Roughriders… or the rest of the CFL for that matter.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I ignore the Riders coverage because I HATE THE FUCKING RIDERS!
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest the worst thing about it hockey-wise is we somehow get lumped into the goddamn Senators market.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it when your all sar-crotchety
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you said crotch
your mind lives in the gutter.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
what were you saying about fart jokes? ;)
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- Certified Grabbo Lover
by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s just speculating. Coming back from summer vacation with nothing to write about
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
agreed.. back from vacay..gettin paid to tweet stuff
seems like a nice gig
Colton Orr will pound you into a million stuff
by Future_considerations on Sep 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He's paid a salary
so technically he’s getting paid to be himself… not to tweet per se.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
He gets paid to be “Darren Dreger” whatever that means.
PPP ain't nothin to cuss with
The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He gets paid to be“Darren Dreger”“The Man”
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It used to mean ‘the last vestige of Sportsnet’s credibility’
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont mind him..at least he’s not being paid to be steve simmons or damien cox
Colton Orr will pound you into a million stuff
by Future_considerations on Sep 4, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Damien Cox
reminds me of Mugatu from Zoolander only with less hair… personality wise.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
haha
Colton Orr will pound you into a million stuff
by Future_considerations on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I INVENTED THE “ITS ALL THE FANS FAULT”
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS
Can’t anyone else see that Ron Wilson is an A HOLE?!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
In reading the MLHS Marlies Forward Preview this caught my eye
Mikhail Stefanovich
Position: C
Bio: Stefanovich is the prototypical enigmatic player. Following his draft year, Stefanovich went on to score 49 goals in QMJHL, shooting him up the Leafs’ depth chart. However, after reportedly asking to be kept out of the Leafs’ roster before a preseason game, Stefanovich was cut from the Leafs, with a cut from the Marlies not short after. That’s when the laziness set in. He finished his 09-10 season with just 25 goals in the QMJHL. Stefanovich has a lot to prove and will not be babied. If he staves off a demotion to the Reading Royals of the ECHL, Stefanovich could be on either the second or third line; it’s up to him. My estimation is low, but he could easily score 20 goals if he begins to play with the flair he lost last season.
Estimated totals if he plays the full season: 11 goals, 14 assists, 25 points
What FLAIR did the kid lose last season? People keep treating him like he fell off the face of the Earth developmentally. He produced at a HIGHER point per game rate (1.28 ppg) than the vast majority of players in the QMJHL (11th overall)… he didn’t suddenly suck.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
the obsession with scoring goals above all else continues
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
2 years ago
he won the Mike Bossy award as the QMJHL’s best pro prospect… now he’s expected to get 11 goals and 25 points in the AHL? Seriously? wtf is wrong with these “talent evaluations”.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
you find the answer to that, you solve the universe
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
at least he’ll show what he’s got at a level higher than the Q.
Blue, White and Full of Fight.
Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
I effing HATE how people use the word “enigmatic” to describe ex-Soviet prospects… I’m guessing 95% of the people that type it don’t even know what it means.
The guy went from scoring 49 goals and 76 points in 56 games to 25 goals and 68 points in 53 games… his ppg rate went from 1.36 to 1.28 OMG HE’S SO FREAKING ENIGMATIC!
Here’s a thing people are probably completely unaware of… Quebec also had Dmitri Kugryshev this past season, and he was coming from CSKA-Moscow’s 2nd level Junior club two years ago. He became their go to guy last year, and he put up 29 goals and 87 points in 66 games (1.32) … the year before he had 34 goals and 74 points in 57 games (1.30)… he’s a 2nd round pick of the Capitals and I doubt anyone is saying he sucks because he went from 34 goals to 29.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Also
laziness? Seriously? The kid played in 6 games at the Men’s World Championships and had 2 goals there… how does any of this translate to laziness? ridiculous.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
KEEP GOING!
ANALYZE KABANOV NEXT
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by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I would, but I need to clean my apartment or my wife will refuse to feed me for a week.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
getting used to the ‘wife’ and ‘husband’ monikers yet?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 5, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its not the case here but I’ve found that professional journalists have a tendency to write off Euros & Russians as enigmatic based mainly on their difficulties speaking english…especially when they’re going though a short slump.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. like enigmatic = fluffy word to explain you since I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU. fucking journalist-speak.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
am I the only one irked by Greg Brady saying schenn will NEVER (emphasis mine) be a super star? I means, sure I can’t really think of any “super star” defensive defenseman (Foote in his prime maybe? Stevens was more 2 way) but I think Schenn has at the very least 30-35 point upside. how many points/goals on top of stellar defensive and physical play (which schenn is easily capable of) does he need to be classified as a “super star”
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Hmm
I kind of agree with him… Foote wasn’t ever really a superstar, and Stevens was a beast offensively for his first 15 years in the NHL.
Defensive D-men are rarely super-stars… I can’t really think of many.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
If He
puts up 35-40 points at some point he’ll enter that realm… and he might be a FEARED D man… like one of the most feared in the NHL… but does that make him a superstar? If he’s the NHL equivalent to Ray Lewis then I guess we’ll talk then.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Nothing wrong with a little RayRay to brighten your DayDay
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by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
With more football comparisons..
Defence wins championships. Meaning that you have to eventually stop goals to win games, so whether or not he’s a “superstar”. He WILL be heralded as a superstar at his position/role.
Blue, White and Full of Fight.
Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait until the Leafs get to the playoffs, then guys like Luke will be heralded and looked upon to help Toronto win the Cup.
See Niedermayer, Scott
"Hockey captures the essence of Canadian experience... hockey is the chance of life, and an affirmation that despite the deathly chill of winter we are alive." - Stephen Leacock.
not a great example, Niedermayer is(was) an exceptional two way defender, a sure fire hall of famer and winner of two olympic gold medals, we might as well compare Schenn to Bobby Orr
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It might help his case that he plays in a hockey literate city too.
verbeauty!
by A Lindros Jaw on Sep 4, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Defensive defensemen never really get the credit they’re due until they play on a championship contender.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I think Schenn’s best season ever tops out at just under 40 points, but he probably hovers closer to 30 for most of his prime.
but yeah, I’ll take forwards peeing themselves as they cross the leafs blue line any day of the week
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
4 words for 'ya
two hundred thirty five.
"The usefulness of a cup, is in it's emptiness"
by Maniel Darois on Sep 4, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
One Word
booooooost
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Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when is Schenn an open ice hitter? He plays excellent angles and is very tough along the boards. But he’s not the open-ice hitter than Phaneuf is.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
it will come with time, he’ll probably never be a notorious trolly track guy, but as he gets experience his timing gets better, I expect we’ll see a lot more of it.
in as soon as this year it is going to be next to impossible to beat him on the outside i bet though
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and a real bitch to battle in the corners with.
Blue, White and Full of Fight.
Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
if he really is as big as 235 at playing weight than there are maybe 10 forwards in the NHL who could beat him on straight up strength, and half of them are 4th or 3rd liners
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know how accurate the 235 is.. We’ll see when they do their weigh-ins and such. But if he IS at 235, he’s going to be an absolute BEAASSSTTTT
Blue, White and Full of Fight.
Colton Orr is a Beauty.
by happiergilmore on Sep 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree. His footwork isn’t quick enough. He may be big and I wouldn’t want to go into the corner with him, but he’s never going to be the skater he’d have to be to become truly elite.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
skating can be worked on, it is probably the only thing that every (healthy) NHLer can improve upon.
I mean he’ll never be Kessel quick, but he could easily be Dion or Weber fast enough to end people between the dots
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
also, I don’t know if I really want Schenn running all over the ice looking to atomize people. I’d rather he play it a little safer and, if at all, look for the opportunistic open ice hit, player with his head down, not paying attention, getting too cute that type of thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn scoring 40 points a season would make him a top 25 offensive defenseman in the NHL. I’m not sure that’s realistic. He plays excellent angles and is tough along the boards, but he’s still fairly out of his habitat (so to speak) in open ice. The improvements you’re suggesting would make him a perennial Norris candidate. I just don’t think that’s in the cards for OLAS.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
I am basing this off pure potential, plus I tend to be on the “high optimism” side of the Schenn card, I think he can do it.
I am aware of the chances though
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn’s footwork is sloppy. He has good balance, but his initial strides are choppy. Schenn is not quick. His straight line speed isn’t bad, but he’s not an agile hockey player. He seems to have trouble changing direction at high speeds. Phaeuf is probably one of the best skating defensemen in the NHL. There’s a wide chasm between their abilities. Skating is the #1 reason why Schenn will never be a stud defenseman.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Also
If Schenn’s weight is up to 235, part of me worries his skating will take a hit.
That often happens when players add a lot of muscle in a short period of time.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I think people see #5 overall and that he made a very bad Leafs team at 18. We need to forget a lot of that stuff. Look at his basic abilities. He needs major work on his skating, offensive game, and open ice play. I have no doubts that Schenn will be an effective player in the NHL for a long time. But he needs major work before we start putting him up there with some of the other young defenders in the NHL.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
it comes down to where that weight was all gained, if it was pure upper body, than there will be definite issues with Schenn’s skating, but if it was evenly distributed, or better yet, mostly in his legs, than his skating should actually strongly benefit.
I guess we will have to wait till camp starts before we get an accurate read on it though
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well yes, but impossible? we’ll see, how many “super stars” are there in the NHL? I mean he uses Zajac as a comparable, does he have Crosby, Ovie, etc potential?
guess it depends where you place the marker
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
If Schenn becomes Adam Foote, I’ll be more than satisfied. Foote was never a superstar but he did help win lord Stanley and helped Canada win the gold at Salt Lake.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 4, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think Zajac will ever be a superstar either. But because of the position he plays, I guess he has a slightly better chance than Schenn. But both are still close to 0% likelihood.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Zajac is a very good hockey player, and I would be THRILLED to have him on the Leafs, but he also has Parise and Kovalchuk on his wings. so his potential to hit the status is definitely there.
But yeah, to be a true blue super star? negligible
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be thrilled if his career arc resembles something more like Jamie Macoun.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think Macoun benefitted from a “life-long” defense partner in Ric Natress though.
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by Maniel Darois on Sep 4, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU WATCH YOUR DIRTY MOUTH, JAMIE MACOUN IS A SAINT!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’r disagree, but I think the more time you spend with a partner, the more freedom it allows you, I can only wish that Phaneuf and Schenn are partners for the next decade.
"The usefulness of a cup, is in it's emptiness"
by Maniel Darois on Sep 4, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that we got them both, plus Gilmour, in one fell swoop.
by Grabovski's better than you think on Sep 4, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Zajac
is not a superstar, and likely never will be.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
The problem with evaluating Schenn’s potential is that because he started in the NHL as an 18 year old and has 2 seasons under his belt by 20, he has little comparables as most players were still in juniors or the AHL while Schenn was getting second pairing minutes in the NHL.
If you would have put Schenn back in the WHL when he was 18, and on the Marlies last year, he would have literally killed people and been tauted as this amazing prospect. But because instead he played in the NHL, he got all this high exposure while he was still maturing and making mistakes as he grew into his body and his game.
If they want to talk about his future, why not compare his numbers as an 18 and 19 year old to other young defensemen who played at that age and got less points like Mike Green and Ryan Suter.
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I will be happy if he develops into he second coming o Dmitri Yushkevich.
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by article1 on Sep 4, 2010 7:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha
Halak doing a charity benefit in Montreal – draws a crowd of 5000+.
How many do you think would come out to see Price?
20 miles to Legoland!
how many cigarette companies are there?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Leonsis vs Cox: http://bit.ly/9oNMIa
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It’s so brilliant; he doesn’t even drop Cox’s name.
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Poor Ted Leonsis. Apparently can’t read. No one said his deal was cap circumventing. His own prez admitted Bettman was against it.
So Damien Cox has resorted to calling Leonsis illiterate? Who does he think Ted is, Jacques Demers?
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I’m enjoying my copy of the MSP Leafs Annual. My sister brought it up from TO. Some of the prose is a little purple in spots, but it’s easily the best hockey preview out there for sheer volume. Getting stoked for the season! Go Leafs Go!
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Hmm I should go buy one
but I’m already drunk. Looks like hungover future me has a task ahead of him tomorrow…
20 miles to Legoland!
make sure you write it on your forehead backwards, so you remember.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
My roommate used to just change his facebook status to remind him to do shit when he was drunk… needless to say there were inevitable consequences
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i'll shortcut to the end of the story
it was along the lines of “remember to buy condoms for wednesday nights” and his mom gave his status a thumbs up.
Ya he didn’t do that anymore after that.
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JeffMarek
Leafs pick Brad Ross of Portland (WHL) is having a truculent night against the Greyhounds (OHL). 6 minors thru 2 (thx @loosepucks)
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Bahahaha
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Leafs pick Brad Ross has now been escorted to the dressing room. By my count, 6 minors Ro(x3), Hs, Hook, Chrg, plus Fight, 10, game #WHL
Looks like Burke drafted himself a shit disturber.
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This team has had a severe lack of crazy since Darcy left. With Phaneuf, Kadri, and next year potentially Ross; this team is going to be a blast to watch if you’re as into crazy as I am.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 4, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the beauty of Darcy and even Tie. Dating back to Wendel.
Can’t beat’em on the ice if you can’t beat’em in the alley.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Orr, Komi, Dion and Schenn, even if kadri and Ross dont see leaf blue for a year or so, that is a helliuva lot of big bad to go up against
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 4, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, can’t wait to see how much snarl this team delivers over the next 2-3 seasons.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Sep 5, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love for the Leafs to get that reputation for nastiness again.
Just that psychological edge when the opposing players see the schedule and sigh because they know they are in for a pretty unfun time.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 5, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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