Adventures of a Vancouverite
So my night last night was relatively pleasant. Around 4:30 pm I started getting hungry, as we'd done our traditional Stat Holiday sleep in and have brunch at 10:30 am thing, so it was time for me to eat. It rained the entire day (actually rare in Vancouver for how much annual rainfall we see here) so my planned trip to the PNE was cancelled. Anyways, since I had been planning on trying deep fried butter, I decided I'd keep up the idea of being adventurous in my food choice, and decided we should eat dim sum for lunch. Now, I have had dim sum one other time, but that time was with a chinese couple I had met when I first moved here, and I merely went along as they ordered for me, and it was great. Especially since it was real, authentic dim sum and I didn't have to deal with the waitresses. So there are a number of dim sum places near where we live, so I looked up a couple to try, and off we went. The first place we didn't even really bother with - by the time I took the dog for a walk, showered and got ready, that place was guaranteed to be jammed packed. So off to choice #2 - a little chinese restaurant that has great reviews from every vancouver food blog I've ever read. So we get there, park, walk in and get seated. Then we notice on the menu a note: "$50 minimum purchase for debit or credit cards." Well that's great, we don't believe in cash, so we figured we'd just have to eat a lot. But then we start looking at the dim sum menu. There was barely anything on it. And it was all double the price of most dim sum places. So we called the waitress over, told her we didn't have any cash so we'd have to move along. Phew. Bullet dodged.
So, on to chinese restaurant #2. Now this place was low on the list because, although it has the best food reviews and apparently excellent prices, it's known for given you the authentic Chinese service along with the authentic chinese food. But hey, good food is good food, right? So we get there, sit down and get our menus. The thing is huge, and we flip back and forth... no dim sum. That' can't be right, this is the best dim sum place in Burnaby, right? After something like 20 minutes the waiter finally comes over to see how we're doing (authentic service all right - there was only one other table in the restaurant) and informs us that they only have dim sum from 9am - 3pm. How'd we miss that? Anyways, we left there as well (btw they also had a minimum transaction for debit and interact - $30).
This whole ordeal took 45 minutes. And I was starving. And I get ragey when I'm starving. So at this point, we have the option of picking a random chinese restaurant of the 100s we'll drive by on our way home, or go to my favourite pub. Out of fear of another failure to locate dim sum, or of finding another unreasonable minimum bill to be able to use credit or debit, we hopped over to my favourite pub, had some beer and wings, and all was right in the world.
And that is why I hate dim sum. Next time, I'm just making a chinese friend take us. Oh yeah and Dan Ellis has money problems? What?? To learn more about this horrible disaster, check out the hash tag #DanEllisProblems on twitter. My favourite? From @uzworm:
Original childhood dream of producing musical theater didn't pan out, instead forced to let goals in for a living #DanEllisProblems
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I think instead of Blake, you mean his grandfather Boom Boom.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 7, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions
oh
I do, d’oh
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Just say now!
I wasn’t expecting it to be unanimous or even popular. I was actually expecting a bit of backlash. It would require a serious leap of faith that everything was going to work out allright in the end, and, y’know, we’re talking about the Leafs, so…
by general borschevsky on Sep 7, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Oy
Signing Tucker would perpetuate the old Leafs cycle of signing old, past their prime vets… leave that to NYR.
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Signing tucker wouldnt bother me.
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by Future_considerations on Sep 7, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
perpetuate the old Leafs cycle of signing old, past their prime vets…
Just feeling nostalgic. September is a good time to indulge in some fantasy.
I think there’s lots of good reasons against it. But every team needs a spare part and some guys on the downward slope bring more to the table then others. I look at Tucker as being a significant upgrade over Brad May and again over Primeau.
I’d take Tucker over Nolan.
by general borschevsky on Sep 7, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya I get the idea
I feel like if we were a contender and needed 1 or 2 final, cheap pieces, a reliable vet for 3rd and 4th lines is a great idea.
I’d prefer to see our current roster get ice time instead of Tucker though, who probably wouldn’t be around by the time we could developed a legimiate contending team.
We have enough guys now to protect most of the kids from being forced to jump up to the bigs. Really its just 1 roster spot for Kadri that will probably be filled, and who knows how long that will last (depending on injuries, play, etc.)
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could we sign him to a $0 contract? since we’re already paying him a million bucks for his buyout?
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Exactly.
We’re already paying the guy. May as well get some use out of him.
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I don’t know about Burnaby but Richmond has better selection of chinese places but… you enter Richmond at your own risk. Toronto is in my opinion better then Vancouver but… only if you know what you’re doing and where you’re going.
The minimum tranaction value for debit and credit cards are a crock though, most places used to do that here in T.dot but the value was lower ($10-20 max) but no resturants do that here anymore since the government and credit card companies cracked down and basically told them its illegal to pass the cost to the customers.
Actually I don’t know if its illegal, I forget now but they cracked down in the last year or two anyway so I haven’t seen any minimum tranactions rule at any Chinese places in awhile even at places that used to impose limits.
here in the states (VT at least)
there are some places that have a minimum for transactions, since maintaining a debit/credit machine costs money, However, it’s usually at most 5 dollars.
50 dollars minimum is bull, though.
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Hmm
Maybe not illegal, but you can’t be forced to pay it for Visa or Mastercard.
Did you know that retailers aren’t allowed to set a minimum purchase amount for Visa or MasterCard? It’s not illegal — it’s just not allowed in their contracts with the card companies.
Visa says its bylaws clearly state that merchants must not establish a minimum transaction amount. That’s done, “To protect Visa cardholders so they can expect to use their cards anywhere, anyhow and anytime Visa is accepted,” says a spokesman.
What you do the next time you’re told there’s a minimum to use a credit card probably depends on how you feel about the issue. If you’re sympathetic toward the merchant’s plight you’ll save the card for bigger purchases.
On the other hand, if you’re trying to rack up every cent on your credit card for more frequent flier miles, you might rustle up your best steely eyed gaze and say, “That’s not allowed.”
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Hubby will be ever so glad for this info. He HATES the minimum.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The counterpoint is
As Chemmy said below, if you cause a ruckus about the minimum they can just choose not to serve you.
Remember of course that any restaurant is a private business that can choose not to serve you for whatever reason as long as that reason isn’t discriminating on the basis of age, sex, sexual orientation, skin color, disability, etc.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’d be fine with that.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Its not illegal, but normally credit card companies won’t allow it, even though for small amounts of money(<5$) the fee is usually enough to make the vendor lose money on a sale.
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Remember of course that any restaurant is a private business that can choose not to serve you for whatever reason as long as that reason isn’t discriminating on the basis of age, sex, sexual orientation, skin color, disability, etc.
The reasonable choice is to not patronize places that have CC minimums way out of line with what you spend. If it’s a $50 minimum at a place you’d spend $25 at, pass. If it’s a $20 minimum at a place you’d spend $50 at it’s probably just to keep out riff raff.
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Corollary: If it is a higher minimum than you’d normally spend at that establishment, you are the riff raff.
Heh.
Sometimes I see minimums that are like $10 but every entree costs $15 so it stops people from ordering a glass of water and an appetizer and paying CC I guess.
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The problem is
if places get called out on minimum limits and are forced to remove them, they instead jack the prices of everything in the store around 2% or whatever offsets the additional cost.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
my wife owns her own business, and they don’t take credit cards because the fees on them would indeed require her to raise prices. Most people just use the ATM next door and pay cash, so it’s never been an issue for her to not take credit cards…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s very case by case. There are places that don’t take credit cards that I specifically avoid because of said fact (I never carry cash for any reason).
But there are also places whose services are good enough that I’ll get cash to buy things from them.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
FUCK I WANT SOME ANNA’S
FUCK
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As soon as I read CH’s comment, I thought “Well, Chipotle is only going to be depressing today.”
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Chipotle blows.
There. I said it.
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Well you’re not wrong.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as chain burrito places go Qdoba is p good.
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It’s certainly nothing like Anna’s, but I draw the line at blows. It’s always filling, decent chips, and I know what I’m getting at all of them – Qdoba and others tend to vary by store too much.
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Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Chipotle is kinda bland.
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Check this shit out:
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There’s a Chipotle 350 feet from an Anna’s at Davis. I saw people EATING IN THE CHIPOTLE.
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I wanted to kick a window in and yell “WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE”
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Dim sum is really a brunch-lunch kind of thing. Most chinese restaurants stop serving dim sum around 3 unless they advertise having all-day dim sum. Best way to get the attention of waiter in a chinese restaurant is to wave your hands at any one of them. It’s not considered rude.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they don’t walk by on their own after a few minutes to see if you’re ready to order, or come by later after they’ve given you food to see if everything’s alright… if you need anything you have to wave them over, standard practice at chinese places and most asian places in fact.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Sep 7, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
see
I just need to be educated. I could deal with all of this if I just had any idea what I was supposed to do. Using Canadian standards as a frame of reference is my problem.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Best option if you’re not familiar with dim sum is find a place with the carts. Then you don’t have to know the menu, you can just pick stuff that looks good.
And yeah, I’d be skeptical of any place that served dim sum after 3. It’s purely a lunch thing.
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So much to learn.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I married someone born and partially raised in Hong Kong so I got educated in a hurry!
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The Pearl down by the water is a bit of a hybrd. Order sheets, but they bring stuff around on carts too so you can freelance. And the food’s good. That’s the place my Hong Kong in-laws prefer near downtown.
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I LOVE dim sum, but it has to have carts. I don’t like the menu option unless I’m going to Lai Wah Heen.
I’ve never thought of it as a dinner option, it’s always been a weekend brunch thing but maybe that’s the WASP in me.
If you want a waiter/waitress – flip the lid of your tea pot / make it askew. We were told that’s a signal that you need more hot water. Wait staff usually respond very quickly and then you can order/ask for whatever else you want.
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This is true. Us Chinese are an inscrutable race, especially when it comes to the wait staff.
Also I’ve found the carts are falling out of favour in most dim sum places in Toronto. I personally like them but only for the nostalgia/kitsch factor. The food tends to be fresher/tastes better when you order from the menu.
Also also, most Chinese restaurants unfortunately have one menu for the gwai lo (white people) and one for the Chinese. We don’t eat egg rolls and sweet and sour pork everyday, it’s true.
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We eat at Sky Dragon about once a month just because they have carts. I’m sure there’s better dim sum out there, but the room is huge, the staff is friendly, we can always get a tabled and the carts are a big hit with the kids.
Dim Sum may be the perfect meal for children. Food arrives instantly, everything is bite sized, the carts are exciting, and all the locals make a big fuss over two blonde kids trying to eat with chop sticks.
It also helps that my daughter would sell her family into slavery to get her hands on siu mai. If it doesn’t come around quickly enough on a cart, she’ll flag down a waiter and order it. The wait staff find this hilarious, I just hope they’re laughing with…
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I have many warm and fuzzy memories getting dim sum off a cart when I was little. It was always so much fun to grab the deep friend stuff off the cart when it came by cuz once you touch it you have to take it. I got away with that so many times
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 7, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
they’re also phasing the cart system because too many people (mostly chinese) fight over them… the carts with the popular items get encircled by people like sharks as soon as they leave the kitchen and cross over to the restuarent floor and are usually emptied before they even make it to the 5th table
this is again, standard chinese practice but I believe they are phasing it out because more and more non-chinese folks are going to dim sum and they are either intimated or simply unaccustomed to this sort of mannerisms so many places are switching to order sheets
I love the cultural immersion of dim sum. It’s one of the few dining experiences that still feels authentic.
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it can get pretty crazy, I have seen herds of people flock to certain carts and fight for the food on more then a few occasion
actually one of the things I noticed when visiting Hong Kong back in March where that I never saw a single dim sum cart at any of the places I went to, so it seems to have been phased out there as well
I went to a spot in Chinatown in Boston and they had carts. It was pretty cool, actually, in what looked like an old movie house or something.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but again, just put up your hand and wave over the first server that sees you, its not rude at all in chinese practice
taking the lid off your teapot can get the attention of the server but you shouldn’t do it unless your pot is actually empty, and its not always the best attention-getting method, most of the time they’ll just sweep by and grab the pot without stopping or looking at you especially if its busy
also, there’s a hand signal for getting the bill, put up your hand to get the attention of the server and then make a scribbling motion with your pointer finger (pointed downwards) and they will know you are asking for the bill and go fetch it for you
conversely if you’re full-blooded chinese you just wave your hand then yell “CHECK PLEASE” across the whole restaurant…
I always just take my bill up to the cashier. I can never get anyone’s attention when it’s time to pay. They don’t seem to mind that I walk it up to the front.
Last week I started to live tweet my dim sum experience, but gave up after three tweets to concentrate on eating. We had amazing Chinese broccoli in oyster sauce that was so simple, yet so good…
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Reading Ellis’ tweet, if he’d just left it at the first sentence I don’t think there’d be an issue, because losing 18% of your pay no matter how much you make.
But comparing your money problems to college students? Boo fucking hoo. Get yourself a financial planner, dumbass.
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Pretty sure he was refferring to the escrow that he and other NHLers face on top of taxes they all have to pay. Assuming he doesn’t hide some of his money off-shore. Although if you salary is made public, I don’t think you can get away with that.
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Poor Dan Ellis
He started out using twitter so well, then succumbed to the kind of tweets we hate to see from athletes… and the backlash to fans… Yikes.
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this is the same guy who compared goaltending to brain surgery, so…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The difference is if most people lost 18% of their income they’d lose their house. Dan Ellis is a millionaire who plays a game for a living. He won’t starve and he won’t make hard decisions.
Want to talk about people losing 18% of their salary? Plenty of manufacturing jobs in the US only work four days a week now. If you’re eligible you can file for une,ployment benefits for the Friday you can’t work. That’s an 18% paycut for people working hard to make ends meet.
It’s not that anyone thinks losing 18% doesn’t suck; it’s that if you’re a millionaire in a recession no one wants to hear you complain about losing some money while you talk about your big new house you just built and the 7 series BMW you’re about to buy. Have some class and realize that the people you’re complaining to have way less money than you do.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What kills me the most is that he tweets this after posting the plans for his brand new house earlier this summer.
Dude, if money is such a problem, don’t build a custom house with an inground pool. I can’t even afford to buy an old crappy house, so….
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He should get a dollar-sign pool instead.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
hah good point, I forgot about that
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
As an employee of the NHL who has a LOT more to lose than Dan Ellis does if there is a lockout/strike…i can honestly say
“YOU’RE A DICK”
Who wants to hear a funny ass joke?
by ohshrit on Sep 7, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Leafs’ best defenceman last year, Carl Gunnarsson, is now on the outside of the top-6 (based on salary, which doesn’t include Jeff Finger’s monstrosity). It’s possible he starts the year in the AHL or is even a part of a trade.
I don’t even know where to start…
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
The only point about the trade is his low salary and being an overall competent defenseman which many teams need.
but Leafs would be stupid to trade him. An overall competant 23-y/o d-man? We should not be giving those away, we should acquiring them.
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I actually think both sentences of the offending tweet ring true (if idiotic to say out loud). Yes, having 18% of your income taken sucks. And yes, I can believe he stresses more about money now than when he was in college. I was on financial aid in college, worked 20-30 hours a week, but I almost never stressed about money because my needs were minimal. I make way more money now (not Dan Ellis money, but enough to be very comfortable), but with wife, kids, mortgage, etc., I probably spend more time thinking about (if not worrying about) money.
I think Ellis’ problem was not the thought—which to me is somewhat understandable (if somewhat lacking in self-awareness as to the actual cause of his stress)—but expressing that thought through Twitter, where without context it was understandably interpreted as a millionaire whining about money. I also think Ellis is a bit ignorant (but understandably so) to think that money is the source of his concerns. It’s not. It’s adulthood—job, family, obligations, etc. And he’s just seeing those responsibilities through the lens of money (as lots of people do).
I’ve never followed Ellis (BizNasty is the only NHL player I follow for the sheer hilarity) but until now people seemed to think he was a decent guy. He probably still is. The sad thing is, the whole Dan Ellis thing will probably lead Twitter accounts to be even more bland and non-controversial:
From now on I will just tweet stuff like…driving to rink…drinking coffee…watching TV. That will be fun to read?!?
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LEAVE DAN ELLIS ALONE!!!!1
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Nice pic. That’s not what I’m saying—he’s an idiot and probably deserves it, I just think he’s more idiot than jerk.
And he should probably think before he tweets.
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he seems like a good guy, just with a little bit of disconnect from his brain and mouth/fingers.
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He’s a pro athlete. He grew up being good enough at a sport that he doesn’t really have great social skills because he never needed them.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
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Negotiating long-term deals with free agents is so realistic that the game kept interrupting me with empty threats about voiding contracts I signed while playing NHL 10.
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You could make a Fanshot, that would be fun.
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heh, one dude who commented on the article doesnt seem to realize that its just a joke.
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Its probably the same dude that makes that comment every time he does this.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Anonymous said...
you made the Brian Burke account. on his twitter page, theres a link to Down Goes Brown.
by general borschevsky on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
FREE TO BE IS AN EXCELLENT SONG
I SHALL LISTEN TO IT ALL DAY
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
THIS IS CANADA’S TEAM
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
We were having too much fun with Dan Ellis last night. Heck, we still are this morning!
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maybe it was just me but I just couldn’t get through that 5 minutes for fighting comparison of the leafs and habs, it was so bad….. I always finish all hockey related articles but I just couldnt get through that.
Kool as KuKumbers Kulemin.... and hopefully Kadri.
Why? Not that I agree or disagree (haven’t read it yet), but please elaborate on why it was so bad.
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Stupid Question
I was at the cottage this weekend and for the life of me I can’t find the leafs regular season presale information. I know it’s tomorrow but what do I need to do to get the password?
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That Dan Ellis man…..i used to like him before he got his twitter account and started whining about stupid, idiotic and asinine things.
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The florida panthers are doing a promotion where you can buy season tickets for 19.72/game to “honor the 1972 dolphins.”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
woah
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the Leafs are doing the same thing for the 2004 Argonauts.. except it’s actually $2004/game
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So…….the Panthers are going undefeated this year?
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The panthers will win more games than the dolphins this year, is what I think they’re saying.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not exactly setting the bar very high is it? When was the last time an NHL team won less than 20 games in a season?
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Sep 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs had 20 wins in ’85.
Also had 21 wins in 1988.. and still made the playoffs.
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also hilarious, the rangers were over .500 that year and did not make the playoffs while the 21-49-10 leafs did. Yay divisional playoff round!
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Leafs took the Wings to six that year too! I wasn’t even 2 years old, but some poor souls had to live through those dark years. And we thought this past year was bad…
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some poor souls had to live through those dark years
We don’t ask for your pity. But mock us not, for we were once as you are now… :-)
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The shortened 94-95 season, I assume.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
Also, the Thrashers had 19 wins in 2002
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Damn, sucks to be them.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The florida panthers are doing a promotion where you can buy season tickets for 19.72/game to "honor the 1972 dolphins."
I’m shocked the Habs and/or Sens haven’t priced tickets for when the Leafs are in town at $196.7
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Here’s the SBN Expansion Draft.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
Both Giguere and Armstrong were picked up.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Team Rosters
Winnipeg
F: Michael Ryder, Radim Vrbata, Dan Carcillo, Vernon Fiddler, Dave Steckel, BJ Crombeen, Sean Horcoff, Rob Niedermayer, Scott Nichol, Brian Rolston, Tim Jackman, Drew Miller, Rick Rypien, Ryan Carter
D: Colin White, Roman Hamrlik, Adam Foote, Seaon O’Donnell, Jared Smithson, Mattias Ohlund, Bruno Gervais, Karlis Skrastins, John Scott, Sami Salo
G: Josh Harding, Erik Ersberg
Quebec
F: Scott Gomez, Pierre-Marc Bouchard, Ryan Malone, Chris Kelly, Erik Christensen, Kevin Porter, Steve Bernier, Tim Kennedy, Jordin Tootoo, Tomas Kopecky, Cory Sarich, Colby Armstrong, Justin Williams, Cory Stillman, Ryan Shannon, Krys Barch
D: Barrett Jackman, Craig Rivet, Rostislav Klesla, Anton Babchuk, Andrew Ference, Ruslan Salei, Brad Festerling
G: Ondrej Pavelec, Antti Niemi, Jean-Sebastien Giguere
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think so too.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe Gabe took the rotting corpse of Brian Rolston and his horrendous contract.
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by The '67 Sound on Sep 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooh I should take these rosters and calculate their cap hits on Capgeek!
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think winnipeg hits the cap floor, quebec might with the 14 million there are spending on Gomez and Giguere.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
CRAP
I just accidentally deleted it in EXCEL!
NOOOOOOOO
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t you just put the list into their fantasy team cap tracker?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking that, yes.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
too many players
doing it in stages
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Here
Winnipeg: $49,592,976
Quebec: $58,267,976
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And they’re paying for it with transfer payments too.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As predicted, even if they took the most expensive players available, it was still hard to reach the salary cap. Quebec certainly tried, though, taking Gomez and Bouchard and Malone and Gigere’s horrid contracts.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
I don’t think Quebec had a hard time, they’re almost at the max – the salary cap floor is $43.4 and I’d think an expansion team would want to be closer to that than the max.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean he still didn’t hit the cap ceiling with 3 extra players and taking some of the worst contracts in the NHL.
Though yes, in the real world, neither of those teams would be spending more than 44 million, if that.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Decent player with a big contract that gets him to the cap floor and then comes off the books in two years.
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Well they do have Andy Ference.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mirtle did Winnipeg.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
James Mirtle, general manager of Quebec, and Gabriel Desjardins, general manager of Winnipeg, each selected 26 players a piece.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that like 10X and still thought he did Winnipeg.
More coffee, please.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They must have edited it. I’m sure I read that Mirtle picked Winnipeg the first time I looked at it.
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Yeah I distinctly remember thinking “Yeah, the guy from Kamloops doing the western team”
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If not, then yes.. more coffee, please. Unless all this caffeine is making me delusional.
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Gabe’s from the Peg originally. So that’s his team.
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by James Mirtle on Sep 7, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Quebec can make a better top six I think, and they have better goaltending.
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Yeah but I think Winnipeg has a lot better defense.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Harding and Ersberg is a big gamble, because you need one of them to step up right away as a #1 – burning another pick on a vet goaltender and keeping Ersberg in the A (or fighting for backup) would be a better decision. I’d rather have Quebec’s goaltending than Winnipeg’s D.
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I like the strategy with going young in goal and protecting them with good D, though.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
in theory yes
but in the real world, I don’t see guys like Ohlund, Hamrlik and White being made available just because the team’s fanbase doesn’t like them…
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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah there were a number of players left unprotected by fans that I doubt GMs would leave out there.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re protecting the kids with big name D, not great D. Salo, White, Foote, Ohlund, they’re all post-prime, and I’d trade any one of them for a veteran goaltender to take the hard games away from Harding and Ersberg for a year.
If I'm losing an argument, I ask myself "What would a real journalist do?"
Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Hamrlik, White, Foote, O’Donnel are still top 4 on a lot of teams.
Actually it seems to me each team is built for which conference it is.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True. And to be honest, now that I look at both sets of D, I’m not so sure Winnipeg is better in that regard either. They have some names, but they still kinda suck.
Rivet and Jackman are good.
Quebec is definitely better on paper.
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I like Jackman anchoring that defense, but it gets pretty weak pretty fast.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rivet may be a greasy ex-Hab.. but he’s pretty solid as well.
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He’s fine and definitely provides more offense than anyone on Winnipeg.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously WTF. Wan Mallagher never posted our protected list so I have no idea who was on it but apparently Jackman and Crombeen weren’t making apparently the only people we didn’t protect. I gotta go yell at gametime now k brb.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
Right, but they’ve got Giguere sheltering their goaltending prospects. There’s a world of difference between Giguere and Niemi splitting (or handling) a back to back when compared to Harding and Ersberg splitting (or taking) a back to back.
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YES!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
the rookie tourny is televised…yes?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting
The Leafs have Micheal Liambas in their Rookie Tourney.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
He’s the kid who did this.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Full Roster
2010 ROOKIE CAMP ROSTER
FORWARDS
Sam Carrick
Andrew Crescenzi
Jerry D’Amigo
Jamie Devane
Brayden Irwin
Nazem Kadri
Mike Liambas
Greg McKegg
Dale Mitchell
Marcel Mueller
Josh Nicholls
Sondre Olden
Bradley Ross
Kenny Ryan
Mikhail Stefanovich
DEFENCE
Keith Aulie
Jesse Blacker
Erik Burgdoerfer
Dave Cowan
Marc-Andre Dorion
Simon Gysbers
Korbinian Holzer
Dallas Jackson
Drew Paris
Barron Smith
GOALIES
Andrew Engelage
Jussi Rynnas
Ben Scrivens
No Reimer?
20 miles to Legoland!
No reason for Reimer to be in there. They have a decent idea of where he is on his development path – better to let Rynnas show off his stuff for another game than to let Reimer take the slot.
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Then I cower behind: "You still don't get it. Deal with it." Thanks, James Wallace.
Ugh
this seems way too close to a familiar “guarantee”
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i like the confidence, but we’ll never hear the end of it if they dont
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actually
Burke said “competing for the playoffs” IIRC
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
“I doubt we can make the playoffs but I’ll say compete for them instead because I want to make the playoffs and if we don’t I have a caveat”
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
not hair-splitting at all. what he said, and what you want to hear are two different things. if a professional sports team’s primary goal is to NOT be in competition for a playoff spot, then I might be a little bit more upset.
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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
He didn’t Alfredsson it – he said it was their goal to make it into the playoffs, he never guaranteed it.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
TSN's 30 in 30 is up today for spot 26/30
And it’s not the Leafs! Woo for not bottom 4 projection! Thanks Atlanta!
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Wilson says Giggy will be starter
Not a huge surprise, I kinda thought they’d wait until after pre-season to really announce any decision though.
Giggy:
"Things can change on a daily basis, but for sure, I see myself as the No. 1 goalie," said Giguere, who is on the final year of his contract.
"I want to be here and play as many games as I can. I’m sure Jonas is of the same way, which is a good thing for the Leafs. If you look around the league now, most teams have two goalies. We want this goaltending to be a strength of our team."
Gus:
"It’s perfect to have Jiggy here," said Gustavsson, "because he always works hard in practice, so I have to work even harder. That’s going to help me. Competition is good for you. And he’s such a nice guy off the ice, so it’s been great."
When asked if he was disappointed to be starting the season as the backup, Gustavsson shook his head.
"Actually, I don’t think much about No. 1 or No. 2," he said. "When the coach tells me to play, I always try to do my best and I know if you play good you’re going to get chances to play again."
http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/09/07/wilson-names-giguere-leafs-no-1-goaltender/
20 miles to Legoland!
These guys are such a refreshing change to the POS’s we’ve had since the lockout.
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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
there has been such a culture change in the dressing room
love it
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I always take what players say with a grain of salt, but this does sound good
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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In case anyone hadn't heard...
@CanucksCorner: Kyle Wellwood has signed a tryout contract with the Phoenix Coyotes #Canucks
Insert jokes here:
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kyle wellwood is fat….in Arizona
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
BEACHED WHALE
Kyle Welwood signs tryout contract with the ’yotes
(tsn headline style)
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Sep 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
New Twitter trend for the Coyotes
#throw the cake
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 7, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
All kinds of rec
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by BetterThanBester on Sep 7, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This is highly derivative of DGB’s #ThrowtheSnack last year, but I love it nonetheless.
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The Phoenix angle makes it fresh, just the way Wellwood likes his cake.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 7, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What am I saying?
Fresh, stale, sitting at the bottom of the trash, he’ll eat it.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 7, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions

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