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Leafs Announce Rookie Tournament Rosters

The Maple Leafs have announced their rookie camp roster at the official site. There are some names we haven't seen before. Who wants to go on a PPP scavenger hunt to figure out who these kids are? I'm just going to list where we got these guys from for now. Here are the forwards with non-Leafs prospects in bold (if you don't know who someone is, feel free to say something in the comments):

Sam Carrick - 2010 5th rounder (OHL)                  
Andrew Crescenzi - No idea who this is: Hockeydb (OHL)
Jerry D’Amigo - 2009 5th rounder, American Hero (NCAA)                
Jamie Devane - 2009 3rd rounder (OHL)              
Brayden Irwin - NCAA free agent, terrible skater (NCAA)              
Nazem Kadri - 2009 7th overall pick, throat slasher, great Lebanese hope. (OHL) 

Star-divide

Mike Liambas - The guy who got suspended a whole year in the OHL. (OHL)          
Greg McKegg - 2010 3rd rounder (OHL)             
Dale Mitchell - 2007 3rd rounder (OHL)                
Marcel Mueller - European free agent (DEL)               
Josh Nicholls - 2010 7th rounder (WHL)              
Sondre Olden - 2010 3rd rounder (SEL)            
Bradley Ross - 2010 2nd rounder (WHL)               
Kenny Ryan - 2009 2nd rounder (OHL)                 
Mikhail Stefanovich - 2008 7th rounder (QMJHL)

And the defenders:

Keith Aulie - Acquired in the Phaneuf deal, wookie on skates (WHL)                 
Jesse Blacker - 2009 2nd rounder (OHL)             
Erik Burgdoerfer - played at RPI with D'Amigo (NCAA)           
Dave Cowan - probably headed to the ECHL, played at Robert Morris. (NCAA).                
Marc-Andre Dorion - played with the McGill Redmen. (CIS)
      
Simon Gysbers - UFA (NCAA)               
Korbinian Holzer - 2006 4th rounder (DEL)            
Dallas Jackson - signed by the Reading Royals as a UFA (WHL)             
Drew Paris -  no idea, but here's his NHL.com pageUpdate: via @OscarGoneWilde Paris had 45pts in the ECHL last year and had 1G 2A in two games with the Marlies.               
Barron Smith -  2009 7th rounder (OHL)               

Goaltenders:

Andrew Engelage - UFA (OHL)
Jussi Rynnas - UFA (FIN)
Ben Scrivens - UFA (NCAA)

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Liambas?

Well, cue the inevitable “How could the goon Leafs put him on the ice” comments on tsn.ca.

by Jacques Strap on Sep 7, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Safe to assume that Liambas is just there to give Devane somebody to fight?

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by Down Goes Brown on Sep 7, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a terrible inclusion. I don’t want this knuckle dragger associated with the Leafs.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather not either, I can’t really figure out a reason for him to be there.

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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess everyone deserves a second chance, right? He apparently broke down in tears on the ice after the hit.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well now I kind of feel like an asshole.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait, this is the GM who stood behind Bertuzzi…..now it makes sense.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont want to be like the canuck fans who supported that decision either… Liambis almost killed someone with his recklessness

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s probably a difference between a reckless hit and cross checking someone in the neck.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sorry chemmy, when was the cross check to the neck? a seperate incident? or am I not remembering the hit correctly…

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought Bertuzzi cross checked Moore down to the ice from behind.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it was a right cross for the back of the head.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the riding him all the way down that does a lot of damage. It was really more “driving him down into the ice” than any sort of punch.

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by Bower Power on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a senseless act of brutal stupidity – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz9RE9RGrVY

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats a rec

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, i thought you were referring to Liambas, not bertuzzi

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bertuzzi: cross check to the neck on a guy who was down
Liambas: high hit on a guy in play.

Not saying the hit was good or legal, but big difference to what Bert did.

Good for giving the kid a chance. He’s not a goon, as far as I know, just made a reckless play.

by Leaf in Habland on Sep 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I thought it was a cross check too.

by Leaf in Habland on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe we’re both crazy.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m confused at how shoulder to shoulder is now “high hit”

he came in fast, and pasted the kid to the boards. reckless, but not entirely illegal, and definitely nowhere near the realm of what Bertuzzi did.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see it being charging and therefore illegal.
But no, nothing like Bertuzzi.

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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

by “illegal” i meant the assault Bertuzzi performed on Moore.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We hated Hollweg. Why do we have to support a douchebag just cause he wears blue and white?

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by clrkaitken on Sep 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Biiiiinnnnngo

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by PPP on Sep 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just not sure he’s a douchebag yet. YES, that hit was terrible, but it was a high, unnecessary hit, not a deliberate, calculated injury (like the Devils’ [now atlanta’s] prospect’s hit). I’m also willing to be more lenient with the younger kids’ poor decisions.

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by Bower Power on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Kassian dive bomb

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would still love to have kassian as a leaf.

by gnarlybattleship on Sep 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kassian

Yeah definitely, he’s a skilled powerforward with top 6 potential. He was expected to be a top 10 pick but dropped to 12th overall.

by Schenn4captain on Sep 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, still, both of those hits were way worse, this kid is getting way more flack than either Kassian or Cormier got simply because he was held up as an example by the OHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Liambas was an undrafted low-level prospect who scored 13P in 124 OHL GP. Cormier was a pretty highly-touted prospect (second-round draft choice) who put up good numbers in the QMJHL. Different leagues, but easy to see why Liambas was made an example of.

by Peter Raaymakers on Sep 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't

I don’t know enough about the guy to know if he’s a d-bag or not. That hit sucked and he’ll probably be known for it the rest of his career (if he has one), but maybe he’s still a good hockey player.

Saving judgement for now. Not a great impression to start out with though.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually have no problem with this

And I hate the Leafs. Liambas made a terrible mistake, and he’s been punished for that. He obviously felt bad about it. It was stupid, charging, hit-to-the-head, and a hit to a player in a vulnerable position.

I’ve made this argument before, though: We put so much pressure on these kids to go out, play hard, and finish their checks. This kid’s a 200-pound 20-year-old, and I can say I see how that combination might be a little dangerous. Especially under the huge pressure we saddle major junior players with.

by Peter Raaymakers on Sep 7, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a very solid point.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 8, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cowan & Paris

Cowan was also Captain at Robert Morris for 2009-2010.
Paris played in the ECHL for Gwinnett, and played two games with the Marlies.

by tdot_eli on Sep 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm no NP columnist but...

pretty sure that you’re supposed to fight the OTHER team’s players in the rookie tourney :)

by Jacques Strap on Sep 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Barren Smith is Steve Smith’s son right? Or did I dream that?

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by maplestirup on Sep 7, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWHMFQAW4SU

Greg McKegg vid. Check out the dirty dangles at 32 seconds

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by leafer1984 on Sep 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Line combos? Kadri with D’Amigo and Mitchell would be nice. Grit, speed and hands.

by Leaf in Habland on Sep 7, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m excited to see just how legit D’Amigo is.

Now with equal measures of "pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence."

by Hi, my name is Pavol, its nice Demitra. on Sep 7, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

When does this thing start and can I watch every game on television?
I would watch Gary Valk’s hockey school if it was on tv, or Phil Kessel washing his car in his driveway on hidden camera. Any port in the storm man.

by The Muppet on Sep 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Games on the 11th, TV unlikely.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The games are on Rogers’ local channels.
Channel 10 in Toronto, not sure about elsewhere.

by McCabe the Martyr on Sep 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody better illegally stream them on the internet.

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by Chemmy on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes please.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 8, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck me for having Bell.

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by leafer1984 on Sep 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet hangover TV.

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am now living in London and really want to go to the first and last games, I have no idea how to get tickets though other than going to the JLC box office.

by Shield on Sep 8, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you tried StubHub (Googe it)? That’s a good site I usually use for finding tickets. I’m not sure if they have the rookie tournament listed, but they do have preseason tickets.

by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 9, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may be a poor decision to include bradley ross. Won’t he main or kill half these poor kids?

Colton Orr will pound you into a million stuff

by Future_considerations on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

*maim

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by Future_considerations on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Separate the chaff from the wheat
Trim the fat
Let the cream rise to the top
Men from the boys
etc……

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fish from the goats.
Chevies from the trucks.
Hole in the ground from the lawnmower.

Need I go on? I think not.

by not norm ullman on Sep 7, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the poles from the poultry?

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 8, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good on the Leafs for giving Liambas a chance, the hit wasn’t dirty (defenceman with head down comes out from behind the net, Liambas timed it perfectly, the injury was clearly not intentional and he never left his feet to make the hit) and the full season suspension was absolutely ridiculous. I think it was a case of the OHL trying to send a strong message about dangerous hits and they cracked down hard on the first injury that came along, regardless of what the hit looked like, which was unfortunate for Liambas. Doubt he’ll ever crack an NHL roster, but at least he’s got a shot at trying to redeem himself.

by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

This makes sense. All I know is that the resulting injury was terrible. I guess Burke agrees with your analysis of the hit and is throwing the kid a bone.

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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put him on a line with Ross and mdk frattin.

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross-Liambas-Rosehill.

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by Bower Power on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just watched it again to confim what I remembered of it. I’d forgotten that Fanelli (the defenceman) turned at the last second, just before Liambas hit him, and he went in face first. From what I could see Liambas had already committed to the hit and there was no way he could’ve aborted the hit. I also remember reading afterwards in an article that there was some controversy over whether Fanelli’s chin strap was correctly attached as it popped right off and that contributed to the severity of the injury.

by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya, it’s pure laziness to fault Liambas entirely on this. it was a good hockey play, one we’ll see hundreds of times a week. unfortunately, someone got badly hurt. That’s hockey though, and injuries are bound to happen.

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by blurr1974 on Sep 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I just never noticed this before

But Mirtle links to the blog Maple Leafs Hot Stove in his article about the rookie camp in the Globe and Mail.

Has he always done this? Linked to relevent and topical blogs in the G&M? Found that surprising.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

Mirtle’s cool like that.

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by Karina on Sep 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t had nearly as much time to blog the past eight months or so, but yes, I still definitely link out to other sites. That will happen with more frequency this season (even if I’m taking some heat for it in the comments).

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by James Mirtle on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your comment section is a wasteland of ineptitude. Good on you for not retaliating Cox-style. (yet!)

20 miles to Legoland!

by nhlcheapshot on Sep 8, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s definitely worth a rec.

by Oafijev on Sep 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Liambas got unlucky on that hit, he was definitely charging though, but charging is usually only called on plays where injuries happen the rest of the time it’s ignored. Fanelli for some reason (inexperience?) doesn’t protect himself at all during the play, i’d say even makes himself more vulnerable. I don’t really know much about Liambas though other then this one play.

by bigrubberbiscuits on Sep 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

90% average at St Mikes? Humaitarian of the year? Sounds like he’s probably a good kid, just bad timing on the hit. Info from Mirtle’s article. Not sure if same one as linked above, my phone won’t let me open it…

by Leaf in Habland on Sep 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

St Mikes

Bad kid.

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by PPP on Sep 9, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just point of reference

Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize… and I don’t think anyone’s going to call him a saint.

None of us actually know him either way… and I don’t know why we care.

I feel bad about the victim of his hit, and he obviously hasn’t learned his lesson because he made another questionable play in the IHL after the CHL expulsion.

There should be something said about the fact that he fills an “energy” role, but players like that are a dime a dozen, and they didn’t have to pick the kid that got booted from the CHL AND IHL. It’s a pure PR stunt… and it’s kind of sickening as such, because they’re exploiting a kid just to attract eyeballs.

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Sep 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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