Brett Lebda is currently the last ranked player (1527 out of 1527) according to Yahoo Fantasy Hockey. A bigger version of the above picture can be found here.
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hahahaha
wish the picture was bigger but can still see it.
Its funny cuz all the guys above him are NA
that says
FA… not NA… Free Agents as in nobody owns them.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
It’s NA – because they’re currently not playing in the NHL, they’re in the AHL, or Europe, or something like that.
God help someone that actually owns Lebda.
Oh, four! I mean five! I mean fire! Now available in lite version!
ah missed that
and you guys are correct. the small printing is amazingly hard on my eyes on my tiny netbook.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
It means that people who aren’t playing in the NHL are actually better for your fantasy team than Brett Lebda.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
by Bower Power on Jan 28, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
He's
basically in the negatives because of his atrocious +/-
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t realize that Kovalchuk was a -29. Or that Chris Phillips was a -23. Wow.
TOMAS KABERLE: LEAF FOR LIFE
Yes
but NJ and Ottawa are both worse than Toronto… and they play every night… Lebda’s played less than half our games, which makes his -22 amazing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
sort of like
why Kessel’s -19 is less worthy of mention than Lebda’s -22
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
frankly I am shocked by this!
no wait, I’m not, what is the opposite of shocked?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 28, 2011 12:14 PM EST reply actions
Come on, 8 PIM are worth something to somebody- he even has a PPA!
And who plays with +/- in today’s game?
@yearofme
I'd say like 84% of fantasy leagues use +/-.
With no data to back my % guess up.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 28, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I was kidding before, but I’d say the only ones to not use +/- would be the points only leagues, or the ones with weird themes , like only PIM counts.
@yearofme
I do not understand
the point of creating a league like that.
I could totally doing a negative league though… where you modify everything to the exact opposite of what it should be, so you end up wanting the worst possible collection of players.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
That’d be really tough (and really interesting) – you’d probably have to look at huge boatanchor contracts that can’t get sent down to the A.
Oh, four! I mean five! I mean fire! Now available in lite version!
I played in one of those leagues for fantasy baseball a few years ago. Lowest batting average, strikeouts, and CS actually got you points. The hard part was finding players that would actually stay in the roster regardless of their stats.
@yearofme
Yeah
I’d add a measure on GP as a multiplier or something… just to ensure it was guys that stayed up.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
The only draft in which Toskala could go #1 in.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 28, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
well assuming someone would hire him.
I had a dream last night in which I was hanging out with someone who said they knew Toskala really well as a person. Apparently they liked him, and i felt mildly bad for not liking him even though I’ve obviously never been face to face with him.
I don’t know what it says about me that this was a real actual dream I had, and that I ’m not making this up.
I had a hockey-related dream last night as well.
I don’t remember much about it except I got into a huge argument with Steve Burtch and it featured a multi-player trade with Philadelphia that centred around us getting Chris Pronger and them getting Nikolai Kulemin. And when I say I argued with Burtch, I mean face-to-face – I have no idea where, and since I don’t know what he really looks like I think my brain made him look a bit like Steve Buscemi due to the sort-of-similar name, but it happened. Sort of.
The reason for this is
there is NO way to penalize crappy defensive players that put up points otherwise… so you add the + / – to keep things semi-legit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
You make a valid point, but sometimes +/- is hard to predict, and can ruin perfectly good players
@yearofme
to some extent this is true
but I don’t know if I’d say it “ruins” them.
If they’re so unlucky that the +/- isn’t their fault (like Lebda) then they could compensate for that by putting up points.
Otherwise, they’re part of the problem… in which case they aren’t strong defensively.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Rick Nash had 41 goals, a ton of shots and PIM in his 2nd season. But his -35 might have caused owners to bench him
@yearofme
and isn't that
sort of valid? -35 is pretty atrocious.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but it’s also reflective of the team, the d-men, or the goalie- not necessarily what you’re looking for with forward categories (in fantasy at least)
@yearofme
That's all well and good as an argument
but Nash had the worst + / – on the team, and he was -9 worse than the 2nd closest guy on the team, David Vyborny, who only finished -26.
When you’re that much worse than everyone else it’s probably because YOU are a large part of the problem, especially if you’re putting up offensive numbers. 19 of his 41 goals came on the PP which means he only scored 22 at Even Strength… he really was shite defensively that year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Scott Lachance and Andrew Cassels
were the only other players below -20 on that team. NONE of the D men other than Lachance (-23) and Klesla (-16) were below -15… less than half as bad as Nash.
And their starter that year was Marc Denis who posted a .916 save percentage… so there goes that excuse.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
This inspired me to check his standing in my three Yahoo leagues.
He’s last in two with -13.2 and -8.8 respectively. In the third league, he’s amassed an astonishing 1.5 points. Although that’s only because I set it up to include blocks and blocked shots. He’s a free agent in all three, which begs the question, how deep would a league have to be to actually consider picking him up?
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You’d begin to run into situations where an empty roster spot is preferable to a filled one. I think Lebda would qualify as one of those situations.
The Flying V was offside every time.
Ron Wilson should take note of this.
Newly-converted Certified Grabbo lover
by poison Ivy on Jan 28, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is surprising why?
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because
he’s largely behind a large number of players that aren’t even in the league.
It’s one thing to say he’s got the lowest value IN the NHL… it’s another to point out that he’s the least valuable player to be on a roster at all since the start of the season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Further proof that Burke could learn from his colleagues, when it comes to cutting bait.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 28, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
BTW, Gustavsson does rank ahead of Khabibulin, so the Leafs don’t own that distinction at least.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 28, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
This is surprising why?
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it's not really surprising at all
and in reality it does help make the point about his atrocious luck, because seriously? He’s not as bad as the guys ahead of him on the list.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jan 28, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Its fantasy
ie you need offense to have value…Aulie will never be worth much in fantasy
I am drinking the Kule-aid!
Hey, do you guys remember when he first signed with the Leafs and said he hoped to be a “pivotal” player on the team? Someone should tell him that he’s pivoting in the wrong direction.
Newly-converted Certified Grabbo lover
I can’t turn Left. I’m not an ambi-turner.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 28, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I will totally pick him up
For the last week if I am way out of the playoff race
by Its Cold In Here on Jan 28, 2011 2:40 PM EST reply actions
Just thinking out loud here, but Lebda's ATOI is 14:41
How good our PK would have to be to just play with 4 men instead of 5 with Lebda out there? I mean, Lebda’s a -19 in 22 games, so if we took say, an average of roughly 7 penalties per game (to account for his 14 mins), killed at a rate of 78%, we would have allowed 34 goals.
At a rate of 90%, however, we’d only have let in 15 goals.
Right now, the league’s average kill rate is 81.73.
AN AVERAGE TEAM’S PK WOULD ALMOST BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY 4-ON-4, AND BE BETTER OFF THAN WITH BRETT LEBDA.
Of course, if he played for an average team, he probably wouldn’t have a -19, but really, this is still terrible.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
Should read what I was writing before I started shouting, but I was in a big rush, and not being careful.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
OK, but still. A league average PK would mean that only 29 goals would be scored.
With a top-of-the-league PK (like Philly) at 88.5%, only 18 goals would be scored.
So, Philly is better with on the PK than we are with Brett Lebda.
GAH.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
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