Leafs are Canadian, But Not That Canadian
Recap of Last Night's Game - St. Louis Game Time
First of all, when Lee Stempniak came back to St. Louis as a Maple Leaf last year, did the fans boo him? Of course not. I cannot fathom why Leaf fans were booing Alexander Steen and Brad Boyes and (presumably, though I didn't specifically hear it) Carlo Colaiacovo. Not one of them asked to leave Toronto and every one of them had good things to say about the Maple Leafs organ-I-zation.
Stay classy, Toronto.
Wasn't there. Wasn't booing. Those fans that were are stupid, though it was probably just Cliff Fletcher and Brian Burke doing the booing to be honest.
Score Effects on Save Percentage - Hockey Analysis
One interesting thing I noticed while doing all this was the Toronto Maple Leafs up by a single goal performance over the last 3 seasons. While they were middle of the pack 5v5 game tied (16th in 3 year 5v5 game tied save percentage), they were downright horrific when they got up a goal. They just couldn’t hold a lead. The three worst single season save percentages when up a goal were the 2009-10 Leafs, 2008-09 Leafs, and the 2007-08 Leafs so they were three for three there.
Well that's just fantastic. More links after the jump.
Very filthy.
Leafs Recover for Shootout Win
Almost pulled a page from Canada's book in doing so.
11 - Good news. I dropped Gustavsson from my fantasy team this morning.
Grabovski's Spin-o-rama Turns Heads
This was the first full 360 in a shootout; the rest are 270s when the shot is taken. Slick.
Leafs Trades for the Real World
Word is their were scouts from 9 teams at the game last night.
Leafs Rumored to be Interested in LA's Brayden Schenn
Yeah dude, the Leafs and 28 other teams.
He may be the only player who never played a single playoff game in his career to have his name on the Stanley Cup.
Forget the Lost Draft Picks, Leafs Need Kessel to Produce Now
VLM ponders this and much more about the Leafs.
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Good move SkinnyFish. I took Roloson. He giveth then the tooketh away. The story so far. What about that third period eh? I say performance coach.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 7:14 AM EST reply actions
I kept Gustavsson but dropped Giguere when Leighton was sent to the minors. Before I was playing Giggy/Gust + Bobro, now I have Bobro/Bouch + Giggy.
Howard, Lehtonen and Rolo for me.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Bernier, Lindback, Garon
kill me
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Luongo/Hiller
Yay for 9-team leagues! I really want to do one of those leagues that carries over from year to year but I don’t think any of my friends care enough.
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I took Jamie Benn over James Neal, I don’t know why
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I had that thought early on. Benn’s a good player already. Now I’m thinking about dumping Neal for Kunitz. Did it in one league.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Is Rask on the wire?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was at the game, and as far as I could tell, no one really booed Carlo, Boyes or Steen until Steen lined up for the shootout, and even then it really didn’t feel like it was personally directed at Steen, but rather simply directed at a St. Louis shooter who we wanted to miss the shot. I admit I booed as well, just for that same reason. Never had any ill-will towards Steen, Boyes, or Mr. Glass.
I was at that game too, and I never realized how quiet the ACC is. The leafs fans were louder when I saw them in Calgary.
The city is apathetic….. everyone going to the games know there won’t be playoffs so the games just don’t quite have the excitment factor they should. I feel this plays a big role….
even the quiet ACC comes to life with a little success.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
The miss the playoffs… the ACC was absolutely rocking during those 4 playoff series against the Senators.
no kidding, i was at game 7 in 2004 against the Sens and the place was a madhouse
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
I hate because not only do you get to go to Leafs games at the ACC but you’ve been to playoff games at the ACC.
It could happen...

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 7, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How is this not green??!?!?1 Most epic reply of all time!!!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 7, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Never even been inside the new building. That’s probably why I still call it “the new building.”
Last Leaf home game I went to was Game 7 vs. San Jose, 1994.
Leaf, the universe and everything.
Now in year 44 of the 42-year saga.
I’ve been the ACC once only, for a Marlies game when they were still the St Johns Maple Leafs but had to play the Toronto because their building was being used for the East Coast Music Awards or something, playoffs game against the Providence Bruins
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
The crowd (and Mats) practically willed the Leafs to last minute comebacks in game 6s against Carolina and Flyers. You have never heard a place louder during an intermission waiting for OT.
Shame about the OTs though.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
to think that that moment is still the most recent playoff memory for the leafs is so depressing
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Repress that and remember Tucker murdering Kapanen
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The last time we were all proud to be Leafs fans.
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I was sitting in a Brooklyn bar watching that game, and only at the end did I realize the guy next to me was a diehard Flyers fan. And his name? Bryan McCabe.
True story.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Jan 7, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
JR killed the ACC
I MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT! I have an alibi!
/narrows eyes, looks left, right…then left again
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I was at the game last night too and...
Yes it was pretty quiet in there. Everyone was just waiting for a mistake to get pissed off about. And when the Blues tied it 5-5 a small group of people near me (around section 311) tried starting a “FIRE WILSON” chant. But whenever the Leafs scored, the place erupted. I can only imagine how much louder it will be when this team has something significant to play for. In any case, you can just sense how hungry people are to have something to cheer for. If this team were any good, it would be one of the scariest places in the league for opposition players.
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by lucc on Jan 7, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a very well-written summary. Crabb’d.
by theninjagreg on Jan 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
There was no booing during the game. And isn’t it pretty normal to boo a player for a shootout attempt?
For the ACC, the crowd was pretty good during the second period when the Leafs were laying the body, hemming the Blues in and scoring goals.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
For the most part, Leaf fans in the ACC only boo the Leafs, or Alfredsson but Alfredsson gets booed in his own arena too.
I thought the crowd was decent as well. We were right behind the net, unfortunately 8 of the 10 goals were scored at the other end. We did have a nice close view for Grabbo’s sick goal though.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
I must have been in the same vicinity: sec. 114, row 18.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
i was in 101 row 26. killer seats down in the lower bowl, im usually up in the greens. it was quite the treat
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
I actually found myself thinking “I wish I was up in the upper bowl, I can’t follow the play as well down here”.
Anything at the far end of the ice was just a maze of bodies.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
yea, was thinking the same thing actually. I had no idea how Armstrongs goal went in until i got home to see the replay
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
We were at opposite ends. That goal was right in front of me but 8 of the other 9 were at the far end.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Sec 110, Row 21. 8 of the 10 goals were on the other side of the arena, but I got to see a good view of one of two of Kessel’s snipes and the Grabo spinorama in the SO. That was awesome.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 7, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
you were 3 or 4 rows behind me.
definitely had trouble following the play at the other end. the upper bowl is definitely better when you’re directly behind the net.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
You must have been near the ginger female Blues fan. I had the 3 year old on my lap.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I think I was on the other side of the section, don’t remember seeing the Blues fans?
There seemed to be a tonne of kids around us though… a little boy directly in front, two little boys directly behind. I had a hard time turning off my hockey game / 3 beer potty mouth. The kid in front of me was getting a kick out of my heckling though.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
The kid behind us was a little girl cheering for the Blues. During the tying goal in the 3rd, she shrieked loud enough to break glass. It made that goal that much more painful.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 7, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
We left after the Blues’ 4th goal. He was fading fast—usually in bed by 7:30.
I told him it was over and the Leafs won.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
YOU MISSED #OMGRABOVSKI
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I caught it at home. A bummer for sure but kid was done. Don’t want him getting cranky and not enjoying himself, and things were looking bleak. Need 1st experience to be nothing but good.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Good times. Good to hear it went well and you’re conditioning him for positive reinforcement
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, that’s awesome. That’s great that he lasted that long, I’m sure mine would have been by end of 2nd for sure.
Too bad you missed Grabbo’s goal though, it was unreal.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
I’ve watched it about a dozen times now and the genius is how it’s a perfect countermove. The traditional 270 degree spin-o-rama usually sets up a near post tap-in, but Grabbo keeps spinning an extra 90 degrees, switches to forehand and has a half empty cage.
Conklin is clearly thinking about guarding the near post as Grabbo goes into the spin, then desperately tries to lunge across at the last minute but it’s too late. You can almost see the thought bubble: “OK, here comes the spin, stay home, guard the post, stay home—oh crap, what the hell, #$$(&*^#^$%*^$%@#!!!”
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
OK, how the hell did I set off the secret grey box code?
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
YOU UNLOCKED THE SECRET DECODER RING
I'm sorry your life sucks. I hope you get a pony for your birthday!
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea how you do this, and I don’t want to know, its like magic
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
SECRET MAGIC
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Next time, bring along a 5 Hour Energy Shot and put it in his sippy cup. He’ll love it.
Certified Grabbo Lover
The haagen daz bar got us through the second period.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
The crowd was decent, sure, but it doesn’t come close to the Saddledome or even the HP Pavilion in San Jose.
by theninjagreg on Jan 7, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Re: Booing
Was also at the game and also didn’t hear any booing for Steen or Boyes until the shootout.
They got booed very very loudly during the shootout, but so did Matt D’Agonstini, who never once played here.
“Stay Classy Toronto”
Nice try, though.
Smoke Weed Every Day.
GRABBO!!!!!!!!!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 7, 2011 7:32 AM EST reply actions
So good right now. If he wanted to jump off a plane and survive he could pull it off during this remarkable stretch of play.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
If he wanted to jump off a plane and survive he could pull it off during this remarkable stretch of play.
http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-a-Long-Fall
We need Grabbo to live.
Lies. All lies.
by betterforsome on Jan 7, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
The biggest variable here is hair. :D
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Grabbo quote
From Mirtle:
“I just tried it a little different,” he said after the game. "It’s like a little bit funny that it’s working.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 7, 2011 7:37 AM EST reply actions
Reimer tweetedthat Grabbo was taught the move by his dad, and that his dad was at the game last night. That Grabbo’s got a soft spot.
When we talk about Reimer the biggest thing about him, just thought about this, is that he seems unaffected by the whole pressure cooker phenomenon. Have big belief in the kid. Ron, I just said belief put away the knife…
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
We talk alot about him in the later podcast. Reimer’s looked positionally sound but we’ll see how his fundamentals do when his confidence is low since that’s when Gustavsson seems to suffer.
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A very good point and yeah, two games aren’t exactly a measuring instrument…
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
We recorded it last night, I’m prepping edits for Ryan and he’ll need a day or two to turn it around. My guess is Monday…
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
Chemmy discusses his plans to hit Mike Komisarek with his car.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
Excuse you, I discuss how my desire to hit Mike Komisarek with my car hasn’t changed since his days playing in Montreal.
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your car would just break down on the way
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
As one of the very few residents of the “Komisarek sucks” bandwagon from Fall ’09 I call bullshit.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
honestly where were all you people when i didn’t like this? lurking?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I remember getting savaged one day early last year when I said we should have just kept Kubina for the last year of his deal because Komi had sucked ever since Lucic messed his shit up.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
fact is, Komisarek was never THAT good
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
not from me
i stopped my Komi complaining after getting slapped silly for questioning the move the day he signed in Toronto.
of course, my comments were probably more touchy-feely than analytical…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I remember we were charter members of this particular club.
I was a lot less vocal back then. Still finding my PPP sea legs.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
GROUND BREAKING TRENDSETTERS
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* note – actual percentage of knowledge distribution 99% 67 Sound, 1% blurr. The 1% is used for things like breathing and such…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I can honestly say I have gained about 99% of my hockey knowledge from here, BTN, mc79hockey and Copper ‘N’ Blue. Now I just regurgitate what I’ve learned.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
too much oiler influx, no wonder your always wrong
=P
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT ABOUT PLAYING AND WATCHING THE GAME????
OBSERVATION AND EXPERIENCE, FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I also learned how to exaggerate here.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I really appreciate how no one is disagreeing with me only having the minimal brain function to perform the most basic body functions.
it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
i hate you guys.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly don’t remember what my stance was. I think it may have been “I don’t know if I like this, his hab stench is strong and i don’t remember him being all that good, I hope I am proven wrong”.
We were talking about it at the game Monday, it seems you can’t go from the Habs to another team and be good (I was with a Bruins fan and we were discussing Ryder). You need a minimum two team movement in order to get the Hab stench off.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Mine was oh we have a future Norris trophy winner here… Seriously though, I wasn’t that excited for us getting him. Yeah, he’s solid shotblocker, hits hard and is a physical specimen but he never seemed like an impact guy for some reason and much of the success he had was playing with Andrei Markov…
Didn’t really care he played for the Habs before…
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
wait… you though Komi could be a future norris winner?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I read that wrong, I blame the head cold, and the neocitran, and the rum i put in the neocitran
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
No problem. I blame last night’s third period. I have a cold as well.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
But in no way do you blame the mushrooms in the rum?
by Bobby Paradise on Jan 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
there are mushrooms in my rum?
score!
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
But I though if I start reply with that notion I’d cause controversy and be different hehe.
But I though I heard his conditioning coach, whoever that was, talking about how he could be exactly that and I almost choked on a biscuit.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
What? Ryder ruined Montreal in that playoff series.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 7, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
worked long enough for my tastes
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
it seems you can’t go from the Habs to another team and be good (I was with a Bruins fan and we were discussing Ryder). You need a minimum two team movement in order to get the Hab stench off.
Grabbo?
Leaf, the universe and everything.
Now in year 44 of the 42-year saga.
how did i miss such an obvious one? maybe he wasn’t there long enough or in a big enough role to get the stinnk on him.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Speaking of which
I totally thought of you when Dan Daoust was featured on the board from the retro replay of Leafs Blues.
Smoke Weed Every Day.
You should listen to the podcast. I think my position is consistent.
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Oh I will. I will.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Only in Toronto…….
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 7, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
They’re kinda cheeky over there at the Blues blog.
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 8:35 AM EST reply actions
They are good people.
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 8:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
indeed.
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
Ya I like dealing with fans of teams that aren’t bandwagoners and aren’t our rivals in anyway (including Vancouver, who seems to think we have a rivalry, enough that they’re dicks)
20 miles to Legoland!
For “not having a rivalry” you guys sure talk about Vancouver a lot.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 7, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
That’s only because there is so much Wellwood to talk about…
/badumbump!
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 7, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
i agree
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
It was germane to the conversation.
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I would say ‘tony’
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think Tony Germane owns that restaurant Eliot Friedman tweeted earlier:
FriedgeHNIC Elliotte Friedman
Great little Italian place in Montreal http://yfrog.com/h54gmaj
or wait, maybe he owns the club in the background…
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 7, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Brayden Schenn
Hopefully his performance at the WHJC will make the ridiculous trade rumours less ridiculous.
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think what you guys need
According to someone in the Chicago Blackhawks organization, the ‘Hawks and Toronto Maple Leafs were working on a deal that would have seen Jack Skille end up on the Leafs, but it fell through last week. The deal continued to grow as Brian Burke was trying to get bigger pieces involved. Talarico noted that the trade "would have been one of the biggest in recent NHL memory."
Oh Burkey, you always swing for the fences.
20 miles to Legoland!
Actually, that would match up with the rumor surrounding Seabrook.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
What rumour surrounding-
Wait… fight it….
Lies. All lies.
by betterforsome on Jan 7, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Someone posted a trade rumor that a deal with Chicago fell apart when Burke asked for Seabrook. I’m not lending any credibility to specifics (Skille, Seabrook), but I do take it as a sign that Burke’s working on something.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
no more D
Even Seabrook.
Unless at least 2 NHL dman are going the other way and a scoring forward is coming with Seabrook, we can’t “expensive dman” our way out of a lack of skill on the top lines.
I’m having a hard time imagining any reason why Chicago wants to trade Seabrook
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
I think he’s just trying to outdo himself now. He won’t do any deal unless it’s bigger and better than the last one he did (at this time).
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by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hawks are known to be shopping Skille and Bolland. I can’t fathom why they would move Seabrook though. Or why Burke would even want him.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Defenseman going out. I don’t think Burke will move a defenseman without having something lined up to fill the slot.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
Agree
Anything that gives Brett Lebda more playing time is nothing short of a disaster.
20 miles to Legoland!
Amazingly, Lebda had a 2 last night, the worst +/ rating for any Leafs defenceman despite having the lowest TOI.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
bwahahaha that didn’t turn out so well
2 rating last night was I meant to say, the worst +/ rating for any Leafs blueliner
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Lebda had a+2 rating last night.
This was the worst +/- rating for any Leafs blueliner.
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That’s a good point. You can just write a +, and everyone will know it’s supposed to be a – because you’re talking about Lebda.
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You could also say he was minus two….
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Now in year 44 of the 42-year saga.
Write the words out in full instead of using symbols?
That’s craz-sanity
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
But if you type minus and then minus again, it still does the confusing strikethrough!!1
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minus You know, that would have been kind of cool. minus
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by 1967ers on Jan 7, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Seabrook is a right handed shot and a great complement to Keith. No way they move him for less than Schenn
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Not a chance I move Schenn for Seabrook
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Well one for one maybe but we’d have to give up other assets in addition to him for sure. With Schenn being so young I don’t know if it’d be worth it to package him for someone who won’t fix our top line
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
And one-for one would never happen, just so you don’t jump down my throat. Just sayin’
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
i would
in a heartbeat. Seabrook’s amazing.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said, I’m not lending any credibility to the specifics of the rumors.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
I know. It just doesn’t make sense from Chicago’s point of view. Makes me wonder about the credibility
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
If a deal was in the works and it fell apart because Burke wanted to get Seabrook, then I think it does lend a bit of credence. Because Chicago would balk at trading Seabrook
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This is most likely it.
CHI wanted a small trade for Skille.
Burke wanted to massively up the ante.
20 miles to Legoland!
You might be able to get Boyd Kane for Lebda and Mitchell.
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I don’t even know who thhat is but I’ll take that trade
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CHI
did a very good job of unloading salary last summer (somehow in the process creating the super-team that is currently the Atlanta Thrashers) but they still have Seabrook, Brouwer, Stalberg, Skille and Crawford as RFAs this summer, and frankly 3 of their defensemen are making league minimum, and that’s likely not sustainable long-term.
They wont have that perf bonus penalty (I’d hope) next year, so their cap ceiling will go way up but it still could be tight.
20 miles to Legoland!
The last thing this team needs is another 3rd liner.
I’m not knocking Bolland, he’s a very good player and very valuable to a good team. But we need elite offensive talent, and Bolland ain’t it.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
We need NHL centermen, Bolland, Grabbo and Bozak as our top 3 is a hell of alot better than throwing out Boyce, Mitchell and Brent…
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
The upgrade from Boyce/Brent to Bolland isn’t worth blowing what little trade chips we have.
Moves made because “there’s nothing else out there” almost never work out. Patience. Patience.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
depends on the price to get him, Bolland is a good hockey player. I dont think theres any way to get a centerman who is that much better without giving up ridiculous assets or waiting to draft one anyway
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Bolland is worth, what, 2-3 wins maximum (I’m being really generous)? Before you even consider what you give up to get him? Wrong guy at the wrong time for this team.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Kyle Beach but his upside is murky. Could be a very good player in the end.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Forgot to get this in on the GDT

My bad.
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by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
doesn’t something like this happen on every Coliaccovo shift
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Is this a meme yet? That face could totally be spliced in any number of situations to increase hilarity. Wish I knew how to shop some photos.
good idea!
maybe I can get my sister to make a picture for us.
Yeah... I don't know what I am on either.
Still don’t know how he survived
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 9:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I watched the video clip of it again, and it is really, really funny. He trips Filpulla, and is sliding towards the glass when for some reason, he thinks to himself ‘I should stand up.’ Oh so funny! At least his bones didn’t ‘asplode’ last night.
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by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
what are we recing?
all i see is this

When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
:(
somebody tinpic it por favor?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
ding dong ding ding ding ding

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 7, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I can see it and it’s glorious.
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I didn’t think it was possible to dislike a hockey-related word more than “truculence” but “poise” has come along and knocked the crown right off truculent’s head.
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Carey Price’s performance in the shootout last night too.
(and the jaunty way P.K. Subban wears his helmet)
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“Quick-strike offence” is still worse.
Really anything Pierre McGuire says is stupid
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Oh, and “a double Dion”
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 7, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry for your loss….It’s McGuire telling Duthensyn (sp) that he’s “an announcer with a long stick.” awkward….
by theninjagreg on Jan 7, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
that is incredibly frightening.
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by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
That’s even more frightening.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 7, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's probably
because it’s been used to describe everything we hate recently, like Suban and the Russians
Poise and truculence are annoying, but pretty far behind “true / proper / traditional rebuild” for me.
Also, when I hear people yell “Shooooooot” at games I seriously want to punch someone in the face.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
As a word “shoot” is fine by me, it’s the utilization that’s questionable. Maybe I just hate adjectives more than verbs…
I hear you on the rebuild stuff, but I’m not sure what phrase or term would be better.
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Utilization
Also should be on the list. Sorry.
by Leaf in Habland on Jan 7, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
"PUCK DISTRIBUTION"
…is one that kills me, especially when Pierre uses it to describe a single event. It’s not a “nice puck distribution.” For eight billion years, long before the leprachauns ate the dinosaurs and unicorns*, we’ve been calling it a “nice pass.” Just use that phrase instead of trying to make yourself sound scholarly, FFS.
*my memory of geological history may be somewhat fuzzy
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No kiddn’ it’s called a “nice pass,” Pierre. Will also accept a “good dish”
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
He also says the word “utilize” a lot, a word I’ve always been taught not to use. I.e. “he really utilizes his long reach”
i hope someone buys him a thesaurus for christmas next year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
could you say the word ‘poise’ has truculence?
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by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Right when Simmonds grabs Boullion’s collar, you can see Boullion’s realization that he’s done something terribly stupid.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
Never stopped Domi.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 7, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
at first I was thinking Simmon was like 6’6 or something and wondered how I hadn’t noticed before, then I realized Bouillon is a midget
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Soup Cube got knuckled up.
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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Assumptions
Simmonds was raised in the GTA
Simmonds is a Leaf fan
That fight was payback for Boullion vs Tucker
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Technically, Grabbo’s isn’t the first 360 shootout goal.
Omark did it in his first game with the Oilers.
OK, Linus did it crossing over the blueline, but still…
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This Grabbo goal is way nicer than Omark’s and so was Kadri’s against Tim Thomas
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
But Omark was being disrespectful and a hotshot!
Grabbo had poise and skill!
Also, for serious Grabbo is amazing no matter how many degrees he spins. Just watch, he’ll go 720 on a goalie’s ass just to embarass him.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
That’s not a 360 spin-o-rama goal. That’s a 360 entrance followed by him skating for a bit and then shooting. Hell, I could spin 5 times before I picked up the puck and then shoot. Totally different beast to do it in close to the goalie and get a shot off.
Certified Grabbo Lover
The backhand to forehand at the end was delicious
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
It was great, Conklin was doubly-confused, he was expecting Grabbo to spin into the shot, not wait him out
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
ah he’s doing that spin-o-rama, ive seen this bef….what the fuck he’s going past me…SHIT
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
That’s why I’m glad Kadri had that slight adaptation to his sneaky little shootout move.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
You could see that Conklin knew what was going on and tried to hold the left post and then Grabbo pulled that beauty on him
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Langenbrunner to DAL, 10:30 conference call should let us know what’s going back (if anything). TSNBobMcKenzie + Real_ESPNLeBrun
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Last year for only $2.8M. The Stars lead their division and are deep down the middle. The Devils are not over the salary cap. He’s been the Devil’s captain for over 3 years now. Why is this trade being made?
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Lou has gone senile and thinks he’s trading Rolston?
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maybe
they’re moving Brodeur up to play forward
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn’t be worse than letting him continue to play goal.
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Actually, I take that back. After Ribiero and Richards, they’ve been running Ott as a center though he’s really a winger. Bringing in Langenbrunner to play on their 3rd line makes them ridiculous.
Neal – Richards – Eriksson
Morrow – Ribiero – Benn
Ott – Langenbrunner – Burish
Who cares
And improves their PK was is currently 23rd in the league at 79.8%. Ok, trade makes sense now. Good trade for Dallas. Bad trade optically for New Jersey.
Certified Grabbo Lover
Capgeek is showing the Devils with $0 in cap space and only 800k in LTIR cushion. Also, I thought the Rolston waiving was an issue of cap space. Are you sure they’re not up against the cap?
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
Are you an expert?
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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh? Not at all. Figured I was probably reading the capgeek page wrong.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
Just re-read my comment and the last line comes off as douch-ey. My bad – it’s an honest question, not some rhetorical one.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
So you’re an expert.
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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They are at the cap
Only reason they are not in trouble is due to LTIR of Salvador, Parise and a few low-cap players.
They need cap relief not just next year but this year.
In fact if Parise comes back they still may have to move or demote some one else.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Parise:
ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
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ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
I feel like you’ve been using this a lot more frequently and I don’t know why.
My current theory is that you recently purchased a new bell for your bicycle.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
ding ding ding ding ding
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My guess is he’s just finished a stint as bell-ringer in a local cathedral.
Though the hump’s gotta hurt his job prospects elsewhere.
by not norm ullman on Jan 7, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
It’s going to be really awkward when we offer sheet him at the same time as we offer sheet Stamkos.
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That sounds both like a bold move and extremely illegal.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure that if Lou has a brain, he’ll make Parise sit the whole season out. No sense coming back early and re-injuring himself in games that mean nothing.
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Lots of time to talk contract and captaincy now.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I’m stunned by this. Langenbrunner’s last 4 years, 53, 60, 69, 61 points. And as you say, reasonable contract, final year. Wouldn’t someone offer more than a conditional 3rd?
Maybe he swung his NTC and refused to go anywhere but Dallas.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Nah I doubt it
I just think every GM in the league knew NJ’s cap situation and knew it wouldn’t cost much to get him. I doubt the other bids were very high.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
If I were a playoff contender I would have absolutely offered a 2nd for Langs.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I guess 28 other GMs didn’t feel the same.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Baffling. He’s a solid player still.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair
the “conditional” portion may include something that makes it increase to a 2nd if they make the playoffs or go a certain # of rounds or something.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Heh. As per capgeek:
@capgeek After trading Langenbrunner, #nhl #njdevils still need to clear ~3.6m in cap hit(s) to get everyone off LTIR http://bit.ly/gdnwqQ
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
They shouldn’t be THAT worried… Parise is out until March or something so they have plenty of time.
Gotta think they’re either going to waive Salvador or desperately unload Rolston by offering a sweetener to get it done.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Won’t they just pretend Parise is injured until the end of the year? It’s not like the Devils have never made dubious use of LTIR before.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Right, even if it’s not dubious they’ll just have their doctor say he recommends Parise take the rest of the season off and use the extended off-season to further strengthen his knee before stepping back onto the ice next fall.
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From a cap management point of view that’s fine. From a “we’re trying to keep Parise here and happy with a nice long contract” point of view, who knows how he’ll like that.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hey kid, you go out there too early and re-fuck up your knee and you may never play again. You’re shutting it down ok?
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you demand to play and we are trading your ass to edmonton
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. No reason for him to play this year.
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
maybe if they make the playoffs….
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Devils will get a conditional third roiund draft pick from Dallas for Jamie Langenbrunner.
Certified Grabbo Lover
Speaking about Jamie Langenbrunner who the fuck cares
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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
watch the behind the net angle. Kessel looks like he’s going glove side, but actually shoots stick. Pretty fancy.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Watch the goal light angle. Kessel looks like he’s going to score but then a big red light comes on.
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Phil Kessel, pretty good at scoring goals on Jaroslav Halak. 5 goals in 7 games against Halak.
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and there’s the real reason Montreal traded him.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Phil Kessel, pretty good at scoring goals on Jaroslav Halak. 5 goals in 7 games against Halak.
You should let Alan Walsh know, I think he’d really appreciate it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t wanna trade your captain in Division and have to see him 3 more times that season. Not kosher. Though they play Dallas, in Dallas, on Feb 22nd.
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Last I'll mention on it
TG tweets that pick will be upped to a 2nd rounder if Stars make it past the 1st round
Or if he re-signs w/ the stars before July 1st it’s upped to a 2nd rounder
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
next time in the shootout , Grabbo is going to start the spin, stop half way and spin back the other way
calling it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions
I think he starts the spin and shoots immediately.
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either that or he shoots it between his legs when he is backwards, roof daddy
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Damnit I was just about to guess through the legs from backwards
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
He’s going to take a huge run up and part the Red Sea as part of it.
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by article1 on Jan 7, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Pined Apple Smoothie
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Boyd FUCKING Deveraux
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by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
The problem is, these last few weeks, and right now, is when the team has needed his production. And we’re just maybe starting to see it. It won’t do a lot of good (again, except for his stats) if he goes on a roll in February and March, if the season is lost by then from a team perspective. So fair or not, in terms of expectations (the guy is only 23), the Leafs need Kessel to be big, right now.
Just like they need Gustavsson to answer the challenge and come up big in goal with a run of superlative games (and it hasn’t really happened yet), they need their biggest offensive threat—and Kessel is still that, despite Grabovski jumping past him in terms of points—to deliver when it still matters.
VLM dropping knowledge? What do you guys think?
BS
Kessel on pace for 34 goals without a 3rd liner as his center. Would be 40+ with a true #1 C.
It’s been proven that elite snipers, no matter who they are, are almost always streaky and only guys like Stamkos and Crosby score consistently.
This is a young team, and therefore very inconsistent. If the offense is going, the goaltending lags. If the goaltending is going, the offense lags. Been happening all season.
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This is a young team, and therefore very inconsistent.
it’s terrible, how often this is forgotten during games…
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I would like them to be less inconsistent during games, however.
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so
inconsistent in their inconsistency?
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well that’s just a consistency issue.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 7, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
No. More consistent with their inconsistency. I’d also like them to advertise their inconsistent games ahead of time.
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This is a young team, and therefore very inconsistent.
it’s terrible how often this is used as an excuse for being awful ever 3 out of 4 game.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Reimer plays great, offense can’t score. Offense goes nuts, Gustavsson let’s in 5.
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THAT’S NOT INCONSISTENCY SKINNY, THAT’S WILSON’S FAULT BECAUSE HE DOESN’T KNOW HOCKEY LIKE VRN.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i didn’t say anything about wilson. I said the team is shitty.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
so we agree
it isn’t Wilson’s fault.
you can change your signature now! Happy day for everyone! :)
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
the leafs being shitty doesn’t mean wilson isn’t a bad coach.
just like them being shitty doesn’t mean that they’re just “inconsistent”. either way it’s an excuse.
I’m trying to move past the wilson thing, but you assholes keep baiting me.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
maybe try changing your signature and we “assholes” wouldn’t think about it every time you comment…?
or you could just keep on keeping on
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
There's only one way to settle this:
CAGE MATCH!

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TWO MEN ENTER ONE MAN LEAVES!
then the other dude leaves
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
THAT’S NOT INCONSISTENCY SKINNY, THAT’S WILSON’S FAULT BECAUSE HE DOESN’T KNOW HOCKEY LIKE VRN.
If you’re gonna say stuff like that, I’m going to call you an asshole.
And my sig is largely for Burtch who complained that people only call for Wilson’s head when the Leafs lose. I’m trying to demonstrate that my opinion on this matter is consistent, and not just reactionary.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry buddy, I still think Wilson should be fired.
<3
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
… and me!
Shoebacca - the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Jan 7, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
i'll go first
see, i can change my signature.
also, if you can’t take a good natured ribbing, i really do hope you get a pony. you need something to cheer you up.
sometimes people forget that PPP wants this place to operate like a sports bar, and that every comment posted isn’t some life or death argument/pissing match. if you can’t tell if i’m being serious, then you can pretty much guarantee i’m not. I thought the all caps was a dead giveaway.
I'm sorry your life sucks. I hope you get a pony for your birthday!
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Unless we’re talking about the number of days that have elapsed in 2011.
That be serious business.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes shit gets real in a sports bar. too real.
one time we were discussing the erosion the middle class during intermission and it almost came to blows.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
I was once in a serious debate arguing the merits of communism until Robert Reichel attempted a slapshot on a penalty shot
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I remember that, it’s one of the most cringe-worthy Leaf moments I’ve ever seen
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I was too stunned and in a WTF-induced-brain-lock to even cringe
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
It’s up there with Stempniak losing the puck in the shootout and “are you shitting me, Wozniewski?” and several others
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Reichel’s was worse because
1) It was a playoffs game against the Flyers and the Leafs were down and;
2) He scored a nice shootout goal against Canada just like 2 months earlier
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
That was in 1999 or something like that wasn’t it? or later?
I can’t remember
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
the best part was the “what was that?” at the end
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
“What was that?”
Fucking Reichel
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
there was so much build up too, the only way it could have ended was a fantastic goal or an epic fail, it being the Leafs, of course it was a fail
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
You guys are kinda acting childish right now…it’s unsettling.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
i know you are but what am i?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I am rubber… You are glue.
This space for rent...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 7, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose I took more offense to the recc’ing than the actual comment. generally I can take a ribbing, but I’m starting to feel like the PPP villain.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
and the pencil moustache
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I will state right now that i have no personal vendetta against any of you, and consider not a single person here a villain.
Except SkinnyFish.
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
that’s not what Fergus told me
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
put it in the butt?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
my methods of torture will remain secret
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
there are definitely no villains. but there’s a sharks vs jets / t-birds vs scorpions thing going on.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
Maybe we need a real villain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3CL28vgE4U
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that’s all well and good, but i thought at our last meeting of the Super Secret Club of Everybody but SkinnyFish (SSCoEbSF) we agreed Skinny was our villain?
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
It’s because I’m the only one here who can grow respectable facial hair isn’t it?
Certified Grabbo Lover
yes.
jerk
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
hey now, don’t you lump me in with those no beards
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Going to change your avatar from a mushy brain to a jolly roger.
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by PPP on Jan 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
too late.
changed my sig’, too.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Actually yeah, he has been on an upswing the last couple weeks.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
He seems to be placing his wrist shot better. He’s getting it higher than he was. Less shooting straight at the goalie and more hitting the corners too.
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Even scored on a backhand and slapper in recent games!
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
When Kessel gets hot, he starts using his speed to create space for a laser wrist shot, like he did on the 5th goal. When this happens, as his linemate your job is simple.
a) get Kessel the puck
b) get to the net
c) if you can’t do b just get the fuck out of the way
Grabovski – Kulemin – MacArthur are providing another primary scoring option so teams can’t focus on him solely (as evidenced by Boston playing Chara against the MGK line periodically)
Versteeg, Bozak and Boyce (how the fuck did that happen?) are providing secondary scoring.
If the defence and Gustavsson can get their shit together, the Leafs are primed for a nice little roll. Which is nice since we’re about to run into the toughest stretch of the season.
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Versteeg is also looking much more like the player I thought we were getting
he still hangs on to the puck too long and too often goes for the extra dangle, but he is driving the net better and using his shot more
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed, looks like he’s getting comfortable. Still dicks with it a bit, but manages it to make it work somehow
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
my favorite part is how on every shift, he falls down at least three times. i find that method of generating offense to be incredibly effective.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Godd Till
by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
maybe Louis Leblanc was on to something
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
The leading scorer on my squirt teams falls down like 5 times a shift and after every shot he takes. Maybe there’s something to this.
Certified Grabbo Lover
you coach Louis Leblanc? (never going to get old)
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
So I guess his goal last night was the ultimate Versteeg moment.
"That’s why stats are so important – anecdotal evidence just doesn’t cut it when you’re talking about history." - Bower Power
by The '67 Sound on Jan 7, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
the non-pass to Kessel was a perfect example of him holding on to the puck too long. but he has been much better of late.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
see, I can get what he was thinking, everyone in the rink was thinking “hey, Kessel is open, he is going to pass to the shooter” and he unleashed a helluva shot that was only about 2 inches wide and he had that whole top corner because conklin was cheating for the pass.
but yes, he should have passed
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
if he didn’t pass, he should have at least hit the net.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
if it doesnt go in, it doesnt matter if it hit the net or not
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
if he doesn’t hit the net, I say go with the pass. wreak some havoc. missing the net on a 2-on-1 is just sad.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Well, that’s not a generally fair assessment.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Jan 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Like Colby missing the net on a 4-on-1
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t a miss, he was trying to bank it in off his own jersey.
Bitter Leaf Fan: Skepticism, not cynicism.
he’s crafty like that
one of his many intangibles
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it does actually. Rebounds and such.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
HA, the Leafs score on a rebound. good one
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
The last time a Leaf scored on a rebound was in game six of the 2002 ECF against Carolina
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
It could happen. I’ll just keep telling myself that.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
If the shot is one target, it has a better chance beating the goalie
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
if the goalie saves it, was it really on target?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Semantics.
There is no chance of him scoring if he shoots high and wide.
Realistically, I’ve called out Armstrong for the same. So i want to be an equal opportunity asshole – where is Leafer1984?
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
arguing semantics is one of my favourite pass times
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
i’m laughing so hard right now.
Fire Ron Wilson!
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 7, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t even know where to go with that. dang.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to say arguing spelling is one of my favourite past times, but thought it was reactionary and lame, and gave up
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
When you put it like that I just might go with Dallas Eakins. Pull me coach pull me.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
so true and yet so difficult. Especially on a 2 on 1.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
He had a pretty clear look at the net. He was trying to pick top cheese and missed.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Chicago fans basically warned us about those two exact things when we got him. Go figure.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 7, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
If Reimer plays well again tonight – I’d say give him the start again in LA. Gustavsson’s legs looked like overcooked asparagus in the 3rd last night
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
If the offense is going, the goaltending lags. If the goaltending is going, the offense lags. Been happening all season.
I guess that’s the issue – the timing of hot streaks. Not so much pace for the season.
BS
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 7, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah that and team getting Alzheimer’s and forgetting to play hockey in stretches of games.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 7, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Burke on the fan590 right now:
Not shopping for 2nd round picks, wants to add players to improve club.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
The draft is our waiver wire.
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draftschmaft!
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
i feel like somebody should maybe make us Leafs fans a calendar or something. this is getting confusing…
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by blurr1974 on Jan 7, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Pre-season = Playoffs
Regular season = Pre-Season
Playoffs = off-season
Draft = waiver wire
Free Agency = draft
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by mf37 on Jan 7, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
all star break = trade deadline?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 7, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
cut/paste
print
Post on Fridge
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’d add a little smiley sticker or star next to the bit about playoffs being our offseason or it could be seen as quite negative.
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Off season = regular season
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Playoffs = Pre-Season
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by Future_considerations on Jan 7, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think i've figured it all out
July 1st is our draft
The waiver wire is our July 1st
and the draft is our waiver wire
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Drafts? Where we’re going we don’t need drafts.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 7, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
In other news...
Did anyone notice they changed that shitty techno goal song at the ACC? It’s actually pretty awesome now, some type of hard rock/heavy metal track with GO LEAFS GO chants mixed in. Sounds pretty badass.
The commercial break/intermission “entertainment”, if you can call it that, is pretty terrible. They literally just play TV commercials on the jumbotron, or show other people down in the golds/platinums winning prizes. The ACC seriously needs an organ player. And to not have the GET LOUD message on the jumbotron be accompanied by “I’ve got a feeling” by the Black Eyed Peas.
The ultimate intangible? Truculligerestosterugnacity.
Personally, I hate the piped-in music for pump-up times even when it is an appropriate song.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Jan 7, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
How many times did they have a “Ok Leafs Nation, I need you to get lout on 3… 1… 2… 3!!!!” video play? 15 times? 20 times?
Smoke Weed Every Day.
There’s nothing I loathe more at a hockey game – besides yelling shoot – than being told to ‘GET LOUD’. F8ck off. I’ll yell when they score or yell at the ref for a missed call or yell at Cheese to keep being awesome. But not because you say so Monica, you turd.
I wouldn’t be averse to goal music if it was something I like. That’s unlikely though, so I’d rather not hear it.
I forgot to mention, the intermission ‘entertaiment’ on Monday was ridiculous. There were scantily clad ‘Leaf girls’ lined up – I’d never seen them before? – and a huge sling shot apparatus set up at centre ice. Each girl was put into a rubber tube / sled type thing, pulled back in the slingshot, and shot down the ice towards some inflatable bowling pin-type things. It was preposterous. I took some action shots, I’ll see if I can post them in a fanshot.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
They probably did the whole GET LOUD thing about 12 times. 3 times each period, and a couple times in OT.
The only time it was awesome was when Colby Armstrong shows up on the jumbotron and goes “Ok Leafs Nation, on the count of 3 I need you to make some noise…” (at this point he’s already smirking) “…ONE…….. TWO…….. THREE…… GOOOOOOOOOO!!!” (by now he can’t keep a straight face at all and just starts laughing)
The ultimate intangible? Truculligerestosterugnacity.
Also, talking about those ten year old girls who like puppies and Twilight? Seriously? HOW IS THIS INTIMIDATING?!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 7, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Boss told me today prepare to attend conference in Toronto on Jan 31… anyone goin to the Panthers game on Feb 1 and/or know where to get a good ticket?
BAM
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Click on “Other Maple Leafs games” and select the Panthers one.
20 miles to Legoland!
Miles ahead ;)
But theys comes in twos! Needs partner.
But i do have another source who got me tix last year, I’m going to hit him up first and see what he can do before purchasing what are definitely worse seats for definitely more cash…
by Bobby Paradise on Jan 7, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was at the game.
There wasn’t much booing for them, aside from the shootout and Steen’s goal, though some guy behind me kept yelling “STEEN, YOU’RE A BUM!”.
It was just so quiet the booing would be that audible.
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