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It's Wednesday night, there's no Leafs game on, the Marlies game is on 640 AM here, and there is a Habs/Flyers game to trash on TSN. Scrivens is in net, and Colborne is trying to continue his point streak.

So if anyone is interested in continuing the hockey convo, or wants some more advanced stats discussion feel free to continue in the comments section.

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COLBORNE.

More GOALBorne.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

leading scorer

in the AHL. If he keeps this up for another month, he’s in the NHL before X-mas.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

for who?

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I’m starting to agree with Birky that Grabbo may be on the move. Connolly’s not going anywhere with his contract/injury status/NTC, and if we’re really giving Colborne a shot to be our big centre, he’s got to get time in the top 6.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before the season is over, that is. I doubt Grabbo gets traded any time soon.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

see

I think Connolly’s injuries help us here. He can get some time up this year when Connolly is out with injury.

I think Bozak or Lombardi are more likely to be traded than Grabovski unless we can get sizeable return… in which case I think it happens near the deadline.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grabbo’s contract demands will determine his fate at the deadline

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not so sure. Unless he’s willing to play for like $2 million, I don’t think we keep him while Colborne is waiting in the wings.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This of course is contingent on Colborne continuing to tear up the AHL.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colborne's shown nothing

You don’t toss away Grabbo for nothing.

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one is saying toss him for nothing

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not talking about the return for him in a trade. I’m talking about Colborne :p

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

many people would call a 21 year old producing 2.0 ppg and leading the AHL in scoring “nothing”. He’s 6’5" and 213 lbs.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would. But that’s because I’m obviously talking about the NHL :P

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

His NHL production is. Until he proves himself somewhat in the NHL I am hesitant to trade away a proven NHL scorer on the asusmption he can be one.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPG in the NHL!

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew someone would say that :p

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt they trade Grabbo with the intent to give Colborne top six minutes without giving Colborne some meaningful exposure to the NHL, maybe even in a top 6 role.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they trade grabbo, they are probably out of the playoff picture at that point, and Colborne would get his shot after the trade, giving the Leafs the off season to evaluate what happens next

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah most likely. Honestly I doubt he gets moved before the deadline. By that point, chances are Colborne gets some kind of time with the Leafs anyways.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed, by that time Colborne probably gets injury fill time

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thus his

“chance” … but we also need to remember this kid is the “future”… we got him thinking long term not short term.

I’m still not into the idea that we push for the playoffs or anything… we’re not there yet.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ideally

he’s a top 6 C full time by next year.

Connolly is a stop gap, just like Liles was for Gardiner. If Colborne jumps the time frame, then no worries, just sucks for someone else on the roster (Lombardi? Bozak? Steckel?)

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Push for the playoffs in what sense, though?

If it’s “trade Kadri for Morrow” then i’m with you, but if were are in the and it’s “trade a 2nd or weaker prospect for a solid Dman” then I think that is a good move.

by samspade on Oct 26, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

I don’t want us moving picks at this stage of things.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what we could get for Bozak+Franson

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe a good 2nd liner, Setoguchi-like? Or am I crazy?

by 9 Dollar Beer on Oct 26, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're

crazy.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

we got

Franson for BRETT LEBDA

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right, I guess I can’t comprehend it, still.

by 9 Dollar Beer on Oct 26, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got Franson for taking on Lombardi’s injury risk.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either way

he’s not worth much.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

more room

on D and at C? That’s worth something.

I’d take a couple of picks if this keeps happening.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id take something around a mid to late 1st and B prospect

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

or a useful young shut down D who is in the NHL but developing and a 1st rounder.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be nice

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

All joking aside, he’s a lot older than I thought he’d be.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We moved a second for Liles. I’m fine with that. I don’t want us moving our first for anyone not already awesome (or another first), but I don’t think picks are untouchable. Especially later ones. Is anyone devestated we traded a fourth (or was it a 5th?) for Steckel?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

but will that look like a good idea if we miss the playoffs? not really.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

those moves look so good if we fail to make the playoffs.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they both look fine. Liles gave room for prospects to develop at a fine pace and didn’t have to rush them. And a fourth has such low value I am not concerned…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

All picks have value

because they’re more shots at winning the lottery.

I don’t think Steckel and Liles are useless by any stretch, but the trades don’t mean much if we don’t go anywhere.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liles bought us time and Steckel is here past this year. I’m fine with it. Lottery tickets aren’t so valuable…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

we are building depth… not putting ourselves over the top for a Cup run.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And part of the way to do that is to fill the current organization too. You can’t just stockpile picks and prospects forever. You have to move them sometimes.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you take $1000 cash or 1 ticket with a 1 in 100 chance to win $1,000,000?

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The second one is more valuable.

1000< 1 000 000/100

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

but one is guaranteed, the other is not.

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmhmm. Its not a great analogy to a draft pick because the chances of hitting are higher but the payoff is nowhere near as big.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re right, the numbers aren’t quite right.

there have only been two players drafted in the 4th round since 1994 that are at more than 0.65 ppg for their career – marc savard and milan hejduk. obviously steckel isn’t going to be a key part of a Leafs cup win, but at the same time holding on to 4th round draft picks because they have a miniscule chance of turning into ‘elite’ talent is ridiculous.

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I am not upset at either the trade for Steckel or Brown (though I did scratch my head at the Brown trade at the time because I didn’t know the guy). Building a team that can compete today is important and needs to be balanced against not mortgaging the future. Trading a fourth isn’t mortgaging the future..

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

problem with saying

4th rounders only is ignoring things like undrafted and later round players.

Every pick is a shot… I’m not assuming 4th round success league wide is going to continue in perpetuity.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and what this team

needs more of isn’t a 3rd line winger. or whatever the heck else we’d get for a 4th rounder.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Steckel?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I meant we don’t need to be adding 3rd/4th line forwards for 4th rounders… particularly when we have 20 NHL level forwards already.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are not including crabb and boyce because you don’t consider them nhl level?

by jeffgm on Oct 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if

the $1000 cash didn’t make my quality of life significantly better I’d take the ticket.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I'm starving

I take the $1000 but we’re not in the position of starving anymore… are we?

We’re getting to that point where we have some decent top end talent… we just need to keep stockpiling talent, and if we can get some real superstar level guys we’ll be farther ahead.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is not the “future”. Ideally he is. He is still a prospect with virtually no NHL experience and can easily flame out. I can’t stand assuming a prospect will succeed. He is a good piece ot have and hopefully he’ll turn into a productive NHLer but that should not deter us from bringing in a top tier center for fear of “stunting” his development. If he can prove he deserves his spot in the NHL, THEN we move someone.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize

how rare it is for a 21 year old to post 2.0+ ppg in the AHL?

I know it’s early and it’s a small sample, but even for 7 games his production is pretty ridiculous.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I am very glad about that, but I am not prepared to move a guy out of hte NHL assuming he’ll rock there.

Ziggo produced like that down there at the end of hte other year. As far as I know he is the next Giroux.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what part of

my discussions around age and developing are you missing here? Zigomanis is 31 years old.

Colborne is 21.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Zigomanis

was 21 he produced 48 points in 79 AHL games for Lowell.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

When

Grabovski was 21 he produced 36 points in 60 KHL games for Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am just showing that sometimes players excel at producing in the AHL and can’t translate it.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and my point is

it’s pretty rare that a guy produces at that level at 21 or younger and can’t translate it.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it happens

but it’s not normal.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

just to further this point

in 2009-10 only 7 AHL players under 24 were above 1.00 PPG on the season and played over 10 games.

In 2008-09 only 14 did it under 24.

These are names you recognize predominantly (from 2008-09):

Steve Downie, Matt D’agostini, Bobby Ryan, Claude Giroux, TJ Hensick, Vladimir Sobotka, Teddy Purcell, Blake Comeau, Jiri Tlusty (in 08-09)

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

to join this group

Colborne needs to play 3 more games, and NOT SCORE ANY POINTS. He’s ALREADY at this level, and the kid is only 21.

He’s going to be a good NHL player.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look, I'm excited.

But its 7 games. I am trying to keep my expectations in check. Hensick, Sobotka, and Tlusty aren’t much..

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

now see

this is going the other way from the Monster debate the other day. The MAJORITY of these guys turn out as decent players.

and even if they aren’t much? they’re all in the NHL and still quite young.

Tlusty is 23 and he’s played 158 NHL games already. Hensick is 25 and has 112 NHL games. Sobotka is 24 and has 207 NHL games.

They’re all pretty legit NHL level talent.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and I’m happy about that. All I am trying to say is that I don’t want to trade away players to make room for him in the top 6 until he proves he can produce at top 6 levels in the NHL.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

problem is

how does a guy prove that until he gets a shot to do so?

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kulemin

didn’t look like a top 6 forward until he played with Bozak and Kessel 2 years ago out of necessity… then he becomes one full time.

He got the shot without having someone else have to move, because nobody else was in the spot.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did

MacArthur ever prove he was a top 6 forward prior to last year? they gave him a shot… he didn’t “earn” it particularly.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was not guaranteed a spot in the top 6 last year. He earned it in the preseason. He was given a shot in the top 9. He earned the rest himself.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

top 9?

he played on MGK’s wing from training camp on, and his best prior output was 35 points or 17 goals in around 80 games… not top 6 production exactly.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who did we have to put ahead of him? it was between him, Kadri, and Army…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's partially my point

we didn’t have a bunch of declining vets preventing us from giving him the job.

I think Burke has added too many players personally. It’ll make things ridiculous in the near future.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

in one off season

he took our forwards from last year, he lost none, and he added Lombardi, Connolly, Dupuis, and Steckel… knowing that Colborne, Kadri, and Frattin would all push for work.

That’s 7 extra guys for what? 2 spots? it’s insane.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a good thing

Excess players can be traded for pieces. He is creating value from very little.

Also he lost Brent and demoted Crabb and Boyce. So really he is only up one and ideally that guy is a Orr replacement.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He added most of those players as FA or giving away very little (Lupul was basically forced on us). If they can bring in value on the way out hte door thats a GOOD thing.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

problem is

we can’t just ditch all of them easily. I just think hard decisions are coming sooner rather than later, and holding on to guys isn’t a great idea because you can prevent other players from developing.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't think

of any NHL franchise right now, that has 19 NHL level forwards available.

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's actually 20

if you include Rosehill…

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think keeping players in teh AHL for a couple months is really “prevent[ing] other playres from developing”

Honestly after what we got for Beauchemin, I am glad he has brought people in for very little assets.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it isn't just

Colborne… Kadri? Frattin?

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- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ll make the team eventually if they can prove it. Then we can move bodies out and get value for it.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could have happened just as easily with him forcing his way up, or playing there when there was an injury. Then you trade the other players.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am happy to give him that chance when someone gets injured.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m fine with that, but if he posts points at a 0.43 ppg pace in that time, I doubt you’ll clamor for us to ditch Lupul for Colborne.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right I won’t. I’ll clamour to ditch Bozak and/or Army so he can be the third line C.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the same group

of under 24 but over 1.00 ppg players to play 10 AHL games for 2007-08:

Nigel Dawes, Mikhail Grabovski, Ryan Callahan, Jeff Tambellini, Jiri Tlusty, Teddy Purcell, Derick Brassard, David Krejci, Vladimir Sobotka, Bobby Ryan, Brett Stirling…

I’m just saying… the whole “he hasn’t proven anything” argument is sort of silly.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean? Only half those guys are top 6ers. He hasn’t proven he can be a top 6er in the NHL.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is getting frustrating

it’s a group of under 24 players… they weren’t all doing it at 21… they weren’t all 2.0 ppg players.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

his production

and age are definitely near the top of the group.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its always frustrating to argue with you

So I am glad I can return the favour somewhat.

I think we arguing different things. I agree he looks great and looks like an NHLer. All I am saying is that I don’t know if he’ll be a top 6er and I wouldn’t want to trade away a top 6er to make room for him.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A BOAT’S A BOAT, but the mystery box could be anything. IT COULD EVEN BE A BOAT. You know how much we wanted one of those.

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have too many forwards

many of whom are in decline or are unlikely to improve.

I want one of them moved to make room for Colborne before next season. I’d prefer it be one of the older guys than the younger ones with upside.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they probably will be…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

so Lupul, Connolly, Lombardi…maybe Steckel

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I more think Bozak and Army…But the management seems to love Army so probably not him…

Probably Bozak and Mac to be honest. If I had to guess thats who I see going (not necessarily who I want, just who I see as the most likely out the door).

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel is also a guy we could see move at the deadline depending on where we are. Playoff teams are going to want someone like him if he continues his FW prowess.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

see that's my problem

you’re going to ditch the 24 and 25 year old? When you’re adding 30ish year old guys? fucking weird way to build a team long term.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not all about age either…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

but when the 30 year olds are injury prone and in decline…

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

He does another of his 3 quarters for a dollar moves in the next few months where Grabbo is a piece of a massive trade.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's put up a

point in his only opportunity, how does one prove themselves with zero opportunities?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh he deserves an oppurtunity but I don’t want to trade away Grabs assuming he’ll be a good NHLer. Also, he looked bad in that game (admitted himself that he skated like molasses the first half), and that point was ALL Kessel. He passed to him in the Leafs zone and Kessel rushed up the ice and scored.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never

advocated trading Grabbo… ever.

I’d move Lombardi or Connolly before him.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay then. I’d move Bozak personally.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Connoly has a modified NTC.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we know

what the modification is?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You want to keep

the younger kids that are trending up, and move out the older guys in decline… your stop gaps if you will.

When the kids push them out, you want them out of the way.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would

totally trade Liles at the deadline this year… get something for him and let him go for a cup run before he’s UFA.

I’d also like us to sign Grabovski, but if he wants too much, I’d deal him.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Presumably one of those “can’t be traded to X number of teams” deals. I think it’s extremely unlikely that Connolly moves this year.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

? We have the cap space to easily pay him 5 mil

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

are we really stressing over whether we keep Connolly or Bozak or Lombardi or Grabbo in place of a 21 year old that’s destroying AHL comp right now?

If he forces his way into the NHL, you promote him and move someone. It’s a luxury I’m glad to deal with.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, but he needs top 6 time, which means either Connolly or Grabbo moves. I don’t think Connolly can/would be traded. Which leaves Grabbo the odd man out.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm

I think the team is building to another huge package deal.

Connolly can be traded, I don’t think there’s a NMC in his deal, and we moved Versteeg.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

you’re ignoring the fact that team mgmt LOVES Grabbo’s dedication and energy.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m curious if they’d consider moving Macarthur or Kulemin (or Lupul, if they could find someone who’d take that contract) and shifting Grabbo to the wing.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

of the three I think Mac is the most likely to move

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say

he’s more movable than Lupul, but he’s also younger. I’d move Lupul of the three.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still not sold

that Lupul is anything more than a 50 point player. He’s meshed well with Kessel so far, but he doesn’t strike me as a guy that creates his own offense.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i.e.

if Kessel stagnates or hits the skids a tad in a dry spell, does Lupul’s scoring dry up also? If he isn’t scoring what does he bring to the table that’s useful?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The on fear I have though is who replaces him? Since he has arrived Kessel has been essentially a ppg player. Not to mention he has opened up Kessel’s ability as a playmaker. I would take a wait and see approach to Lupul. I don’t want Kessel’s game to regress.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe but Kadri still hasn’t shown himself to be able to keep his job against Frattin let alone giving him 1st line duties.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri showed his ability fine, he only got 3 games to Frattin’s 8
the only reason Kadri is going down is because he was supposed to go to the Marlies anyway and Frattin has not played poor enough to give any reason to be demoted

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was just about to write that.

by Learn2Leaf on Oct 26, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Lupul moves to make room for Colborne, it’s because we’re shifting Grabbo to the wing. The still leaves our top 6 as MGK + Kessel + Connolly + Colborne. Divide that up as you’d like

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can grabbo play wing?

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Connolly

can… I’d move him before Grabovski.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was just thinking that. I was also thinking is it really that bad IF Colborne is ready for top six time that Connolly might move into a third line role of some kind?

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

he can get PP time also… realistically he was 3rd line level in Buffalo, not sure why this is such a big deal.

We move Bozak and Lombardi down no problem.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So….Many……3rd…….Liners lol

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we're playing our

former 1st and 2nd line guys on the 3rd line, it says something about our top 6.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Connoly plays on the third line with Kadri and Frattin as his wingers…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

so a 4th of Bozak – lombardi -brown?

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Colborne gets a call-up as anything other than an injury replacement, I don’t see how it works unless we trade someone. We’ve already got 6 centres in the lineup (Connolly, Grabbo, Bozak, Lombardi, Steckel, Dupuis).

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dupuis gets scratched, Steckel and Lombo play the wing.

Connoly
Grabovski
Colbourne
Bozak/Steckel (the other is the winger.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lupul-Connolly-Kessel
MGK
Lombardi-Colborne-Armstrong
Bozak-Steckel-Brown (our two best faceoff guys on the 4th line? Why?)

Still leaves no room for Kadri or Frattin, and requires either Orr or Dupuis to be sent to the Marlies. I don’t see it happenning. Yes, injuries change things, but that’s not a lineup that makes much sense to me.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like, it’s possible we run with a lineup like that for a couple weeks, but I don’t think that works long term, and eventually you need to make room for Colborne in the top 6 if he deserves it.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The key there is eventually. If he proves he belongs after an injury call up you can move bodies to make room for him…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine

with that… remember Anaheim had Pahlsson, Niedermayer, Marchant, Thornton, May, Travis Green…

quite a few former 2nd/3rd line bubble guys who dropped down as vets.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually meant to say a 3rd line of Colborne and Frattin Kadri. A pure sheltered scoring line.

Top 6 will be more or less who is there now. Assuming Lupul is gone, Lombardi would be in his spot on the line (I don’t love the lack of physicality there…maybe switch Lombo Frattin).

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So a line of Colborne-Kadri-Frattin and a line of . . . Lombardi-Bozak-Armstrong beneath them? An $8 million 4th line playing 6-7 minutes a night? Doesn’t make sense.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this won't happen

I’m guessing we don’t make the playoffs.

We need Aulie and Schenn to develop – which takes time.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The assumption in this thread was that Lupul was gone

Frattin-Connoly-Kessel
MGK
Kadri-Colborne-Lombardi
Steckel-Bozak-Brown

I guess Army isn’t in there either…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frattin hasn’t proven anything in the NHL either? Why should we give him first line minutes over Colborne?

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t suggest trading Lupul to make room, someone else did.

I am just trying to say the Colborne doesn’t need to play in the top 6 right away. Sheltered scoring lines with very favourable zone starts are a great thing for a rookie.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather

see Colborne in the top 6 than Frattin long term, and I don’t think Frattin lasts if he doesn’t start scoring.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the lineup is healthy there’s no roster spot for Colborne. If he’s being brought up due to talent and not as an injury replacement, someone has to move.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, we don’t even have a roster spot for Kadri, and who knows if we’ll have one for Frattin when Armstrong is healthy.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

and I’m fine with that to be honest.

I still don’t get how or why Burke felt he needed to add this many forwards in the off season… 7 forwards? really?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

our AHL season is going to be kick ass… Kadri and Frattin on one line, Crabb and Colborne on another… our PP will dominate.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

see my problem with this is

I don’t think the Leafs are a potential playoff team without the kids performing… the older guys won’t get it done imho.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri

with Frattin and Mueller, Colborne with D’Amigo and Crabb?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

every game’s a tryout!

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gets called up as an injury replacement, earns his spot and a move is made so he can retain it.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if there are no injuries at C and his AHL play justifies a call-up?

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

There will be injuries at some point where he earns a call up. I highly doubt there are no injuries to anyone. At some point you call him up and play Lombardi or Bozak on the wing if it comes to it.

I am also not against trading Bozak as we have Lombardi, Dupuis (and Boyce), and Steckel all capable of bottom 6 C…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong I think highly of Kadri, but I don’t think he will be ready for that level of responsibility, not yet anyways.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he hasn’t played nearly as well as Lupul.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

since he's arrived?

Kessel is actually at 44 points in 36 games… so that’s above a ppg.

Lupul has definitely made him better.

Bozak has been part of most of this also for the record.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak certainly helps with the defensive lapses of these two, but does not provide Kessel with a legitimate scoring option.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel

has 44 points in 36 games… why does he need a legit scoring option?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Takes attention away from him, unlike when he was with Crabb and Bozie. Kessel also seems to feel more confident to make the play instead of feeling he has to do it himself.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the part that makes no sense here is

we’re moving Lupul to replace him with a better option… not a worse one.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Lupul can be moved for a better option, with that contract and injury history. Lupul currently has more value to us then he would be worth in trade. Just my opinion though

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a point

of diminishing returns… he’s not getting any younger, and as you discussed, injury problems.

You just don’t want to waste good years of a player in the minors because a declining aging forward is clogging up the tracks.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but at this point someone has to force him out IMHO, he has been a solid player thus far who seems to make are star player better. I do agree though Burtch, if Frattin or Kadri can steal it, I would love the cap room.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

when

do you say a guy is “forcing” someone out? I mean what more can a guy do if he’s scoring 2.0 ppg in the AHL?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who we talking about Crabb or Colborne? Joey Crabb is currently putting up those points as well. I want to see Colborne up sooner rather then later, then see whether he can play with the big boys. If Burke trades Lupul again, how many times does that make it lol

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crabb

is relatively ancient in AHL terms.

Colborne is 21. Older AHL’ers often produce points.

Young kids rarely do unless they’re ready to move up.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough, we shall wait and see. I was just using Crabb as a means to make a point. I hope Colborne is our answer, and if he can maintain this awhile longer he is going to get his call up(likely the next time Tim Connoly try’s to open a soda can)

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come up when someone is injured and prove himself in the NHL. He has been doing that for less than 20 games…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grabovski

His last year in the AHL he had 20 points in 12 games, but in the 24 NHL games he played he scored 9 points. I don’t want to replace Lupul with a player who is not yet ready for NHL production… He needs to prove himself in the NHL.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 points

in 24 NHL games is pretty solid as a rookie.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

15 points in 7 games is a lot higher than 20 in 12.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

I’ve consistently been saying if he SUSTAINS it through November.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously

Lupul is creating enough space for Kessel to produce. 36 games and 44 points is virtually half a season.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

so this question is..

i don’t want to jinx it actually

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by pho king awesome on Oct 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a good point

in favour of Lupul, even if he’s not that productive himself

27 in 36 games.

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How many goals also?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just checked

13 goals in 36 games or a 30 goal pace.

Since he has got here he is scoring at a 30 goal, 60 point pace and we act like he’s garbage.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

garbarge! trade him! maybe we can get a 4th for him.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I think his D is garbage… his Corsi is horrible, and his +/- sucks. But he’s good on the PP, and he makes room for Kessel.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been trying to convince people that Lupul is good. 60 points would put him 46th in the league among forwards last year. 55 puts him at 66th. That’s legitimate 1st liner scoring.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

offensively he’s a top 6 guy… no disagreement there. But he’s crap in his own end generally, and I don’t like that aspect of his game.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, many first liners are. I am fine with that.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

on the best teams they aren’t typically.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I’d rather move Lupul, I just see Mac garnering more trade interest, less injury, younger, and cheaper

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I have learned anything from Burke it is that we all don’t have a fucking clue. But a trade does seem imminent.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about imminent. But I’d be surprised if we didn’t see something by the New Year.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am also concerned in what we can bring back in return. If MacA can return more I may rather moving him.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lupul’s contract isn’t that bad. He is as good as Fleischmann and Leino who got more than him this summer. Recent UFA signings have lowered expected value.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Fleischmann signing was a damn travesty.

I haven’t been paying attention though, how has Leino been ?

by samspade on Oct 26, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flash is probably a better player than Leino…More proven too.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say top 9 time. I have no issue with having him on the 3rd line. He can develop playing sheltered minutes, similar to (hate to say this) Seguin.

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by kulewhip on Oct 26, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he doesn’t. He needs top 9 time plus some power play time. There is nothing wrong with some sheltered time.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he keeps up a 2 PPG pace in the AHL, or anything even close, he’s not getting called up to centre Frattin and Bozak.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frattin and Lombardi most likely. And why not? Frankly thats the way it usually is… Who did Grabovski play with when he was called up in 07/08 after his 20 points in 12 games?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're not

running the Habs, and Colborne was a 1st round pick, Grabbo was a 5th rounder.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. The point I am making is that a guy who earns his way onto the team doesn’t need to be given top 6 minutes he just needs to be given a chance to reasonably succeed. Frankly I think creating a sheltered scoring line is one of the best ways to maximize the effectiveness of rookies.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a big difference

between promoting a top line prospect and former 1st round guy, who is producing 2.0 ppg at the age of 21, and promoting a guy who is producing 1.67 ppg at the age of 24.

A huge difference.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So forget the Grabbo comparison. All I am saying is that there is no problem with putting him on a sheltered 3rd line. HJe doesn’t need top 6 minutes off the bat. Give him some 3rd line time (not in a checking role though) and some PP time.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’d be fine with him doing what Seguin is doing… I don’t think he needs top line minutes off the bat.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was kadri’s ppg in AHL? seems colbourne offensively is much more a threat then kadri.

by jeffgm on Oct 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri

was slightly below a ppg last year… but he’s also younger than Colborne.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri's numbers

last year were much better than Colborne’s last year. Theoretically Kadri could be well over 2.0 ppg also.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colborne this year is 2 years older htan Kadri was last year.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not

2 years older. He’s 9 months older. Jan 30th 1990 for Colborne vs. Oct 6th 1990 for Kadri.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

went the wrong way with my math, 7 months, not 9.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

if Kadri can get up to 2.0 ppg in 7 months, by all means I expect that sort of production.

Here’s the thing, Kadri’s game will be shiftiness and speed at the pro level, he needs to work on that still.

Colborne is STILL growing into his frame, and if he figures out how to position himself well, and improves his skating enough, his hands are already there and he thinks the game very well. Colborne’s NHL upside is higher than Kadri’s if he puts it all together.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you can find

a 6’5" 215 lb C with size that has hands like Colborne and thinks the game well then you’re in business.

There’s a reason we got him for Kaberle, and Gardiner for Beauchemin, and then ended up with Franson for Lebda.

Think about the quality of the prospects and the level of player we moved.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused. If Colborne was born (heh) Jan 30th 1990 and Kadri Oct 6th 1990 then isn’t Colborne 8.25 months older? October is the 10th month and January the 1st. Where do you get 7 from?

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

feb

march, april, may, june, july, aug, sept, oct….it’s 8… like I said… my math went the wrong way :P

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said Kadri last year vs Colborne this year. Its 1 year + 7 months. 19 months older would be considered 2 years older…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah last year

missed that…

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that being said

Kadri and Colborne were both ppg players on the Marlies last year.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colborne had 0.8 ppg…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

Kadri was 0.93 so neither was a ppg apparently.

I’m not trying to split hairs, but Colborne was a ppg until his concussion, and he’s over a ppg in his time with the Marlies thus far.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You were the one who argued that Connoly has never been a ppg player. So I am calling you on this.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and boom goes the dynamite

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hasn't

but Colborne is over a ppg with the Marlies in his career… so I’m not wrong on that.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he was

a ppg until he was concussed… meh… whatever I was comparing them as equals, you want to argue Kadri’s superior… fine. neither was a ppg player then, Colborne’s a 2.0+ ppg player now, and Kadri is what?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not arguing anything. Just pointing out that you were false in stating:

that being said
Kadri and Colborne were both ppg players on the Marlies last year.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grabbo re-signs.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if Grabbo or Connolly go down with an injury. Only way I see it happeneing.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jagr

goal no less.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually a more accurate description of my views would be, haha habs got scored on

by ShahofToronto on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol habs..

fire moar coachez!!

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by Future_considerations on Oct 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jagr is really overdoing the salute thing.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Milking it before Ovechkin catches him with an open ice hit

by ShahofToronto on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

that was a thing of beauty

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In NHL06 it’s Jagr’s only one. Imagine having to see it four times in one game.

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by red army line on Oct 26, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t overdo a 1s goal celebration :p

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty good d by jagr’s stick

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

montreal is a disaster in their own zone.

…this is fantastic!

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe we can trade Komi to them ;)

by Theodles on Oct 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 1000 times this. They may actually be stupid enough to give us something for him. These guys took on Gomez, handed Cole over 4mill plus

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The team looks more and more like it may be time to blow it up.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooray!

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I'll say to this is

Leaf fans… stones… glass houses… be careful.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we are utter shit in our own zone.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but we have intangibles /jk

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

My friends and I cracked up at this line back when the movie came out.

by potvin vs hextall on Oct 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think everyone here has been pretty honest about this team’s shortcomings, and there are many. Doesn’t mean we can’t laugh at the habs.

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me that we were begging for our special teams coaches to be fired for two years. Habs did it early. Good for them. I hope it doesn’t help, but good for them for doing something.

by Leaf in Habland on Oct 26, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Colborne

scores again… assist to Crabb. Now #1 and #2 in AHL scoring.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Colborne Supremacy

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by Frag on Oct 26, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Holy shit Colborne.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there somewhere

 i can tune into this? rogers HD maybe?

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno, I’m following on twitter/boxscores

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a link at the top of this thread from am640

@phoking_awesome

by pho king awesome on Oct 26, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That didn’t work for me, so Im listening to the Abbotsford feed

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

for some reason the 640toronto.com radio feed doesn’t work for me in firefox, I have to use IE. May want to try that if you are using firefox as well.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It worked but I was just hearing commercial after commercial while the game was actually going on, so I have no idea what that was all about

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

AM640 on line

the link is in the original posting.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's really remarkable

is according to the game sheet, Colborne has 2 goals on 1 shot.

200% shooting tonight. Seems sustainable.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But can he do it in November? When it matters.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He

uses his jedi mind tricks to score GoalBornes.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly he started skating towards the net and the goalie was scared of him so he put in himself.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this breaks charts.

by Learn2Leaf on Oct 26, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boo habs

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by Future_considerations on Oct 26, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

oh wow, didnt know my friend got recalled to AHL. i’m ok with abbotsford #22 getting a point tonight. :P

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Habs are fond of drop

passes… god they’re playing poorly.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Just heard from TSN commentator “Vintage Eric Cole.” I didn’t know such a thing existed.

by Learn2Leaf on Oct 26, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's

6 years younger than me. I’m not quite vintage yet. I hope.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

Carolina Stanley Cup year? BBC line before that?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brind’Amour cole and who?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah wow.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are no shift chart for AHL, are there?

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

no

they don’t list TOI either.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the most annoying one.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

bummer.

i’d like to know if my friend is getting shafted (9in regards to ice time)this year. current coach for abbotsford was the assistant to Jim “not” playfair.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franson rumours

are flying some more.

Franson’s days are numbered.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

ok so

this is just a rehash of the LeBrun tweets earlier yesterday… nm.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Franson move, but with a contract that pays him under a million dollars he’s not exactly the worst option as a #7 defender and injury fill-in.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of hope not. I still think he could prove to be a good player here. It’s unfortunate there’s a weird numbers game on our D. Gardiner being in the NHL rather than the AHL is complicating matters for him.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

kid grow up as leafs fan – and gets shit on by the coach.

not saying his play was up to part, but he played what, 2 games?

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he shat

on the coach before he got shat on.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s sort of petty if that’s what this is about.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it isn't

it’s about his inability to fit in the line up with Gardiner there and his crap defensive skills.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has also been kinda terrible and cant crack the Leafs D

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d personally rather carry 7D as long as he stops complaining. One of them is going to get hurt sooner rather than later and it wont be an issue of “too many D”

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn’t said anything since that first incident, probably got a talking to

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

…or he saw what happened in the media and decided that wasn’t a good idea

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the trade Komi to Montreal idea.
/dreaming

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

the issue right now, to me anyways, is not enough defenders who can actually defend

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel the forwards deserve some blame as well, the whole team defense just hasn’t looked good in years. The defenseman definately are the most noticeable though. I dream of the day I can stay calm when the puck enters the Leafs’ zone.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

this has been

my problem since the get go. Liles is not defensively oriented, neither is Franson, or Gardiner, and Komi is a disaster and Schenn’s been off so far.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s our 7th best D which is sad considering one of them is Komi. And he’s been a big suck about not playing, I can see Burke having zero fucking tolerance for that – that’s not the kind of guy he wants on his team.

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

3

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has played poorly and in all honesty, is our “7th” d man based on performance. That being said I would not give up on him so soon. If he is traded because of his media comments that is not right.

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by SPERO on Oct 26, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just rehashing whats already been said.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit how did that stay out.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Abbotsford radio talking to Mark Osborne about Christianity instead of hockey during the intermission…welcome to the Fraser valley

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

ironically

he’s a LeafsTV commentator,

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, they’re talkin’ about my friend :D

he’s finally healthy.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yah. Has had a really rough go the last few years with a damaged shoulder.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

either he’s not getting any minutes tonight or he’s playing well.

its 5-nothing and he’s a zero on the +/-

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crabb from Colbourne…4-0 marlies

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, my feed is way behind. i just got that.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t mean to ruin it for you, sorry!

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap and again

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you just mean the radio or do you have a video feed?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus those two are really tearing it up down there.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

they

are 1st and 2nd in AHL scoring, both have 3 points on the night. 15 points in 7 games each.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

and another goal, for Boyce this time 5-0

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which goalie are we playing?

by TheCeej on Oct 26, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leland Irving

awesome Flames prospect!

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant who is in net for the Marlies. I’ve heard of Irwin though.

by TheCeej on Oct 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean

Irving, and Scrivens is in goal. but Abbotsford isn’t testing him much.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

game sheet shows Ortio playing over 40 mins in goal for Abbotsford

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Irving started

then was pulled… then went back in for the 2nd far as I know.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats what I remember hearing to, but the game sheet linked below says different. And they did say Boyce scored on Ortio. Haven’t really been paying attention, just have the radio feed going on in the background.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Irving

gave up 5 goals according to the radio feed.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

officeal game report which is the link below still shows Ortio giving up 3 of the goals in 40+ mins work. One of them is wrong.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

also the link now states

This report has been checked and verified.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

so whoever was calling the game on the radio is half blind… totally possible.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scrivens is in goal for the Marlies.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hehe he is supposed to be one of their only decent prospects…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw everyone

this is Colborne’s 3rd three point night, and 5th multipoint game in 7 DAMN GAMES.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

oh and

he has a point in every game… so yeah.. 15 points in 7 games.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

at what point can they ignore that and be forced to bring him up?

does he have to clear waivers if they bring him up and then send him back down? or can he jump up and down at the GM’s will?

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

waivers… he hasn’t played enough NHL games at all, and he’s on his ELC.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

for the clarification.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruins fans are so eager to talk the Kessel trade. Not so much the Kaberle one.

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by Blinky on Oct 26, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaberle helped them win the cup, they don’t mind

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you really say Kaberle brought them anything that they would’ve lost without? Because I didn’t see it last year.

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by Blinky on Oct 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll never know for sure.

by Self Destructive Zones on Oct 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he lead their defense in scoring for one

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaberle played very well in the playoffs last year. Hard to say how the Bruins would have done without him since Tim Thomas was a brick wall, but I think Kaberle helped them win it.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, something Colborne and those picks would not have helped

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 26, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he

also had decent advanced stats, but people freak out because the PP didn’t work so well.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying he was terrible, just average. Sure, the picks wouldn’t have helped them, but I don’t think he contributed on a level that made them a markedly better team.

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by Blinky on Oct 26, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

They would have scored a lot less points and considering they went to 7 games three times I would say he contributed his share.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played way better than people think, but honestly who cares. They won the cup and their prospect pool and youth still look good…

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone on that team helped them win the cup

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

7 goals on 18 shots… that’s Kessel-esque shooting %!

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

part of it

is where he’s shooting from… but yeah… not sustainable.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about the man who got 2 goals on one shot.

Anything can happen!

Also I’m pretty sure Scrivens just got his shutout

Colborne, Crabb, and Scrivens the 3 stars.

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 26, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Crabb not worth trading – some team could upgrade their bottom 6 cheaply?

by jeffgm on Oct 26, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe you can’t trade someone in the AHL without them going through waivers.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i think he would get claimed on waivers by someone if he was brought up – sound right?

by jeffgm on Oct 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

fight

for Mueller… nice.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

G’nite folks. time to go play some pickup.

by spoonie on Oct 26, 2011 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

So if you haven’t seen it yet, in this video Darren Dreger says Dallas Eakins is believed to be next in line for the Leafs coaching job:

http://watch.tsn.ca/clip556899#clip556899

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Marlies continue to play well someone else might grab him

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's

under contract to the Leafs so that is unlikely.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would bet one of Burke’s many codes is that an organization shouldn’t stop one of its employees from making an upgrade in job like that…like Nieuwendyk

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps not

but it might be different in the case of the head coach of your AHL team.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

I think they’ve likely told him he has a shot at the NHL job.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

Dreger is making that up.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Dallas feels a certain amount of loyalty to the Leafs organization too..hes been in it for a while and they gave him his first head coaching job

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Pro Sports though, it’s pretty much SOP for most teams to not prevent a guy from getting a promotion unless they plan on giving him one in the near future.

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by CoolJ90 on Oct 26, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Guy Boucher.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

5-1 montreal…why couldn’t philly shit the bed against us instead?

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

they played bryz tonight with that awful contract, we faced brobrosky

by jeffgm on Oct 26, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Pronger being out had a lot more to do with it. Coburn led the team in ice time.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn’t pronger get injured early in the game against us?

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

but their D still didn’t play particularly well tonight.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Les Hobbitants should really thank Grabo for tenderizing Philly

by Please no Hab signs on Oct 26, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random question

From my understanding Corsi is supposed to be a measurement of possession. So why can’t we just measure possession itself? Can’t we just measure the on-ice team possession for a player?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

how?

do you plan on tracking who has the puck constantly?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the point is

corsi is a proxy.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine it can be measured which team has possession…No? Not the specific player just the team. Than you would just have to compare it to a TOI sheet.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ie one of the trackers has 3 buttons infront of him. One for team a, one for team b, and one for normal. He just presses the button for which team has the puck at the time. With a TOI sheet you can figure out possession on vs off for each player.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats what they do in soccer

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by jimmyp22 on Oct 26, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

possession

in soccer is far clearer frankly… field is larger and guys aren’t physically tied up as often.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a lot of time

where nobody has possession. again if you want to try and track it go ahead… but nobody is doing it right now.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

what would you do

when two guys are battling in the corner? it’d be pretty damn subjective.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one has possession. I can’t track it. It needs to be tracked by the NHL… I guess I could for one team but I don’t have the time to devote to that…

It just doesn’t seem THAT difficult. Am I crazy? Does it not seem reasonable for them to track?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

from ice level?

easier said than done.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a league

that can’t track faceoff locations accurately.

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the box where the rest of the team is. The moron Kerry Fraser explains the office crew here:

The Off-Ice Crew for every NHL game is comprised of approximately 16 individuals that are hired by the NHL as part-time employees. They receive a small stipend for each game they work. The crew is under the direction of a Crew Chief in each NHL city who manages the group and assigns them to their respective posts for each game. Their various titles and responsibilities of the crew members are as follows:

Located upstairs in the arena press box area.

1 Official Scorer: To determine and award the accurate and official scoring of a goal and assists.

4 Computer Programmers: Their duties include recording each players respective shift time on the ice and a running record of who touches the puck for scoring and assist award; players + and -; face-off wins/losses and which linesman drops the puck for every face-off; shots on goal (type of shot slap shot, wrist, snap, backhand; and from what location on the ice the shot was taken); body checks/hits-which player delivered hit and to whom (rub outs and penalties do not constitute a hit); blocked shots; penalties recorded and which referee assessed/announced the penalty (which is why on rare occasions you might see one referee race his partner to the penalty box if they both have their arms up for a call). This group also records at least 3 or 4 good/excellent saves make by the goalkeepers in the game to be utilized by media for game highlights.

1 Video Goal Judge is located in a secure and separate box upstairs in the press box area with a 3 way communication device to the Situation Room in Toronto and the Penalty Bench to loop in the referee. (A video technician is located in the booth as well and hired by the team to operate the equipment. If an Officiating Manager/Supervisor or Hockey Operations person is in attendance they would generally sit in this location as well.)

1 Spotter: His job is to assist the computer programmers by shouting out puck possession and other stats that will be recorded as listed above.

1 ATC (Arena Technical Coordinator) that makes sure the computers, real time scoring and timing devices work correctly.

Located down at ice level:

1 Penalty Time Keeper

1 Game Time Keeper

2 Penalty Box Door Openers

1 TV Commercial Timeout Coordinator (signals game participants when television commercial takes place and when to return to action utilizing a light system located in the penalty bench area.)

2 Goal Judges (in modern day with use of Video Review the Goal Judges have been relocated from directly behind the net/glass in most buildings to a lower section of the press box or catwalk. They turn the goal light on when the referee points to signal a goal. The two or more seats that replaced their glass cage behind the net are sold for premium seating.)

I get as fans that we can’t do better, but I think this could be tracked and ideally released to us at some point.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for posting this was just about to read the article on tsn.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good read actually.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s totally plausible, and some teams may even have guys who do track that kind of information. But Corsi can be gathered from the stats the NHL already collects, while possession time can’t.

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by Draglikepull on Oct 26, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I understand that, but i hope they do track it, because then we won’t have to use Corsi for possession.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite sure why this is a lol… It was a good move.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well i guess it depends on who they call up, but it sure seems like a “we realize we have no shot this season” move to me

by Chi-town leafs on Oct 26, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been absolutely idiotic to keep him up

To burn a year on his ELC when frankly he wasn’t ready (he had 1 assist in 7 games or something) and the team can’t do anything.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya smart move

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 27, 2011 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching Col vs Cal on the Col feed

anyone ever play the first Saint’s Row? don’t the two Colorado announcers sound just like the conservative talk show hosts? For some reason they always remind me of them.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, roll call.

Who’s still up?

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s not even 8pm on the left coast.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am. But I’m out, batling a cold and a couple of busy days of work ahead of me. Night y’all.

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by daoust on Oct 26, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bummer

Rest up, hermano.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just got here. But I’m in CNT.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 26, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

by which i mean CST.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going

for the night, feel free to contribute your thoughts on Colborne above. Draglikepull is still engaged, as is BCapp…

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sup.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool.

Welp. Think I’ll watch a game as soon as I’m through with the FTB. Any reccomendations?

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

marlies replay

on LeafsTV? is that even possible?

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by Steve Burtch on Oct 26, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm… I’ll check, but I don’t think LeafsTV interactive runs those.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cal vs Col is tied at 1 after 1

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How was work?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t have work tonight, actually. That’s tomorrow, unfortunately.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh true. I thought it was Thursday for some reason.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish, new car on friday, so sick of borrowing vehicles

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need a new car mine just broke down I feel trapped without one :(

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’ll be two weeks without one on friday. Found a decent price on an 2010 with 57k on it. Was planning to save over the winter and buy a nice new VW but oh well next time.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah my savings suck right now so I’ll have to wait a bit longer or buy a $1000 car that I’ll probably regret later. Getting groceries on the bus blows though.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol yea, I bet it does. Buddy of mine hasn’t spent more than 3500 on a car. Now he gets bored of them and rotates though them every couple years but if you look hard enough you can get a decent vehicle for pretty cheap.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I’ll have to do some digging I guess. 3500 is going to take a few more months of top ramin and water :)

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a student I have some friends who have turned to the websites (like grocery gateway). They say its only an increase in price of about 5%…basically they say its the same price or cheaper as bussing to the store and taxiing home…

I still bus or hitch rides with friends though.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm I forgot about that option. I always used to assume it was super expensive. Thanks for the idea.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. I’ll tell you flat out that this is second hand info though, I’ve never done it myself.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just went to the site the prices aren’t bad at all. It’s more than like No Frills and about the same as Loblaws.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loblaws :P
Funnest, most horrible thing ever.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m here. Just caught up on the thread

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got in myself after the Diwali celebrations

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

how was the costume party?

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, no costume party, just dinner and awesome use of hand sparklers

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just making a The Office joke.

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Oh…right.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice. was it bright and filling?

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was! And delicious.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t tried a lot of it but I’ve liked what I’ve had in India food. I go to the Jewel of India dt London here and there for some. (assuming it was Indian food)

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never been so can’t say, but there’s enough Indians in London that I’d expect there to be some authentic places as well.

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Jewel of India isn’t great. What do you do in London anyway, I dind’t realize you were a Londoner.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apprentice Electrician, about a year away for being fully licenced. I don’t get out to restaurants too often so my knowledge of quality is limited. They have a platter that lets you try a bunch of stuff that I like. Really wanna try out Budapest someday as well for some east Euro food.;

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Cool. We should grab a beer to watch the game

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definately, would have gone to the PPP london meeting at Wits End but worked night shift up till this week, missed every weekday up till than and most of teh baseball season :(

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hhaa ouch.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find that most of the good Indian food in Toronto is vegetarian actually…the meat stuff is okay at some places, but it doesn’t come close to homemade…there are some really good vegetarian places though if you can survive a meal without meat :)

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just grab a hotdog on the way back home lol. I found that actually at the Indian place in London’s convent garden market.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, generally speaking a fair amount of the meat dishes that you’ll find at a lot of Indian places aren’t actually authentic, but Indian cooking using meat products because there’s a demand for it.

The vegetarian food on the other hand is usually much more authentic and has had a lot more thought and time put into the recipes…and of course it usually shows.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll keep that in mind, thanks. I like trying different stuff, mainly because my food backround is boring (Canadian and to a lesser extent Dutch). That being said the cheese and baking on my Dutch side more than makes up for it.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

love me some smoked gouda.

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smoked gouda and Dutch pastries = party

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually eat them with serbian pastries but any pastries are good to go

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I am pretty much an equal-opportunity employer when it comes to the profession of pastries to be eaten.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too. I love dough. I don’t discriminate

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, street meat is awesome

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

without a doubt.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Street meat and pho got me through university

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I once drove from Etobicoke to downtown at 3 am because I was craving a hot dog that bad.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice…yeah, something you can’t do in Lindsay, by the way. Their big late opener is the Pizza Pizza and it’s open until 1

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would have destroyed me during my musician/trying to be a rockstar phase. My day was so shifted lunch was at like midnight.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I ended up losing about 35 lbs in two months, mostly not by choice b/c I was forced to adjust to a more normal set of eating habits…I feel great now though, so it turned out well, haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I stopped smoking 10 joints a day and eating crap and all I did was start cooking after I got married and taking walks and lost about the same as you. maybe like 30 lbs

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear it! It’s gotten me on a bit of a health kick actually since I’ve still got a ways to go before I can really feel like I’m healthy.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I haven’t quit cigarettes yet. I’m finding it impossible. I’ve tried a million times. My wallet would love it too.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can imagine…the 312312515% tax on each pack these days must be hard to absorb…

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah in actuality each pack of smokes only costs 3 cents before tax.

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Did you mean $3 not 3 cents?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no I meant 3 cents in jest.

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Ironically I believe its like $2.80…

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We were trying to be funny

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favourite smoking joke was from Bill Hicks:


What I do, and I know all smokers do this. You know how every cigarette pack has a different surgeon general’s warning on it, how cool. Mine say smoking may cause fetal injury or premature birth…fuck it. I found my brand. Just don’t get the ones that say lung cancer ya know, shop around. It’s your body.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have never killed a person in a car because I was smoking…and I’ve tried too, even if you turn off all the lights and rush them they still see the light from the cigarette.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The door is ajar!! How can a door be a jar? I don’t know but I see it!

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha amazing

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Hicks Flying Saucer Tour Vol. 1 is awesome. Love Bill Hicks.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

so did Denis Leary apparently a little too much.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hicks’d

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha that’s awesome

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Loved Bill Hicks

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ySCcnoo3c


That’s cruel coughing at a smoker. What do you go up and dance in front of cripples?

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

So good…smokers not realizing when they’ve finished breathing out and collapsing, haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol I’ve never smoked cigs but I smoke cigars on occasion, The rules are getting pretty unreasonable if you ask me. Asbestos ceiling tiles still flying around everywhere, millions of cars driving around and we think forcign smokers to walk 30 ft is going to help our health? crazyness. Also I can’t walk into a Cigar shop named: “Smokes and Mags” and look at the product I want to buy? That pisses me off so much.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah because hiding them totally solves the cravings problem.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be perfectly honest as a non-smoker I liked the rules as they were…at least that way I could avoid the joints that allowed smoking and it wasn’t outside everywhere…it seems like the new rules just make things worse for everyone involved.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind the no smoking indoors, but if I walk into a place called Smokes and Mags, I going there to buy a smoke, I’ve already made my decision, the lack of ads will not change a thing, stay out of my life Dalton!!!

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should have restaurants that have a no-dalton section

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol that is awesome Idea.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, nice

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh for sure, just from my POV if it’s between none indoors and none outdoors but choice indoors, I’d take the second because I can choose to avoid places that allow it…just seems to make a bit more sense.

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Its all about social engineering to in the long run make smoking less appealing. Forcing people to smoke outside in the long run will probably decrease smokers…

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Well, we’ll find out eventually I guess.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting tidbit here

In medschool we were told that the most important thing a family doctor can do for a person’s long term health is get their patient to quit smoking. More important than vaccines, than giving them antibiotics, than watching for signs of chronic disease. Quitting smoking. It really is that bad for you.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting…actually I kinda feel like I encounter more secondhand smoke now than I did before the full indoor ban…now I can’t really avoid it, before I just never went to places that allowed it.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again the idea is long term, that these rules frankly make it a pain in the ass to be a smoker and less people will start, more will quit. A large part of policy making (when done right) often takes into account “social engineering”.

Also nobody properly enforces the distance to buildings rules…

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sure as fuck don’t follow those rules. But I do not exhale if I see people near me and if I’m on the sidewalk I try to blow upwards. My contribution to society

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Honestly I appreciate that. One thing that drives me insane is walking down the street and people literally blowing smoke in my face. I appreciate that sometimes I’m just next to the smoker, but sometimes I feel a small effort could go a long way… Shrug.

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Any who I am out for the night. G’night all!

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

There tend to be a lot of smokers just outside subway stations in Toronto, so it’s pretty much impossible to avoid.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I don’t smoke there. Around bay station there’s usually like 5-6 of them when I get off the bus. I feel bad for people that have to walk through the cloud. I just wait til I get home. Can’t wait 40 mins? fucking selfish.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like BCapp said above, I really appreciate that…I actually have quite a few friends that are smokers and they’re extremely considerate about it as well.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

People can be very self serving/selfish sometimes. I really try to live life as unselfishly as I can. Small things matter.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not being a jerk is definitely worthwhile, I feel.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I love the smell of Du Maurier. Hate Players or Canadians

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canadians have no players, just stubbys

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t tell the difference :(

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Tim Connolly was a cigarette he’d be the fast burning kind from Romy and Michelle’s highschool reunion.

/terriblemoviereference

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m apparently 0 for 2… =/

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s probably a good thing on this one. It’s about the only thing I remember from that piece of shit movie.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh okay…ever seen The Human Centipede?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

can’t say I have

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

not my kind of film.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah really, don't watch it.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

it probably isn’t anyone’s kind of film. Unless you’re deaf and blind. Even then you might find the movie to be shitty.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you’ll definitely find it shitty…not in the way you might be thinking right now though.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol that’s enough of a hint for me.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t seen the South Park parody yet either

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, was hoping it was obvious enough

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

the more you know

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

knowing is half the battle

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the GIJoe safety parodys

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha yeah those are great

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got threatened with a law suit if he makes another, fascists.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love ’em…also reminded me of the Bruins Hockey Rules, have you seen those?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it’s killing me. It’s like I’m internally afraid to quit. The drugs that you can take have some scary side effects so I’m weary of going that route. Cold turkey/patches don’t do it for me. My mom quit at the snap of a finger after like 30 years so why not me. I donno.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talk to your family doctor and try to make a plan with him/her. There are many options. It is by no way an easy route (I think I remember it takes the average person like 4 serious attempts or well into a dozen attempts) and the most work will have to come from you, but your MD cna help.

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alright

Well now I feel preachy (I hope I didn’t come off that way). Just trying to pass on what I’ve learned in school. Best of luck Chuck its a good goal and really tough to do.

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

not at all I can use all the advice in the world.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never smoked, but I have found my family doctor extremely helpful in helping me get rid of some of my unhealthy habits, mostly related to diet.

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Then yeah, talk to your family doc. He/she would probably be ecstatic to help.

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

cool will do.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm….I should probably get a family doctor, haven’t been to one in about 7 or 8 years….

by Goosemonster on Oct 27, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Done that for Shawarmas (sp?) and the poutinery before.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

though I live in London so it took like 20 mins there and back lol

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If my car was working I swear there’d be no reply. Just screeching sounds and then burping after 45 mins.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still have to make my friend come good on that bet and buy me a poutine and a beer

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you laugh at him while you’re chewing

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I will…I might spell out OLE with his fries when he goes to the bathroom.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hah that would require a pic. And a million obligatory recs

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha nice…okay, so totally happening…not sure when, but sometime

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the end of the meal light up a smoke and say “this one is for carey price”

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha nice…

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feliz Dewali

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Danke Shoen

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also thank you to whoever recced my Leafs Man map from yesterday…I was shocked at how many recs there were this morning, haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

that was me :) Leafsman is an auto rec from me.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet…well that map had 31 Leafs…men?

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol I know. I can only rec once though, sadly.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha that’s okay, it was totally shameless though and will be used again at the rookie of the year nominations >=)

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all good. Bring it out in the postgame threads when the Leafs win too. if you don’t I will and then I will get the recs muhahah

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, nice

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just watching the St. Louis feed

of the Blues-Canucks game. They’re talking about Steen like he’s the 3rd Sedin twin.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 26, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Not much else to talk about in a 1-0 game I guess

by TheDeek on Oct 26, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they paid so much to get him….

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

:(

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol gotta love homers

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I though paccioretti was out but clearly he has a couple goals.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Also how long till the boos start falling on Bryz?

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

boos or batteries?

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vay you heff to be so energized?

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually a good idea for cap circumvention……

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woof.

The FTB is a big’un tomorrow.

You folks better have your reading glasses on.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading glasses…so there’s a story on Owuya?

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Hm… no. But if you read carefully, you’ll find out how he’s been doing, lately.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent, I shall have a Regel look at it then.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice did you see: http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=597585&navid=DL|TOR|home
looks like Liles is doing his mentoring job quite nicely.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that’s already in there.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great I can’t access any non-governmental sites at work so by the time I get home and try to read the FTB the game is on and by the 2nd period I might get through the pre-game thread and then I can woo or boo along with the rest of you.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, just started watching the CGY - COL game.

Tanguay and Iginla both have one assist apiece. Good news for my fantasy team.

Not that any of you particularly care.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I care! GO TEAM JP NIKOTA, FUCK EVERYONE ELSE

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gold star.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

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Weekday and Weekend dad are going to be mad at you.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll deal with that problem tomorrow morning =D

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Weekday and Weekend Dad’s girlfriends are still the boss of you while they’re away!

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right, there’s a clear pecking order…how else would I know who to suck up to at the current moment in time?!

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Bahahaha

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Colorado come back and take this, though.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

would move Giggy into the top 50 for alltime wins as a goalie.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? he’s a good guy. I’ve changed my mind, go Col

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i think thats what the graphic showed. He’s at 51st overall at the moment for sure. I think his next ties him for 50 overall.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

It would tie him with Eddie Johnston (whoever that is)

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In other news from that list

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, he has been around a long time. hope he retires after this year.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh. Both teams piss me off for no reason. That said I love Iggy. So go Calgary I guess.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it’s because they got a dynasty from trading one asshole

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy?

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy by default from the 1st pick Thibault that they traded to montreal but more so Forsberg, Hextall, Duchesne , Ricci, Simon and another 1st that they traded to Wsh, but I can’t remember what they got in return for that.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right…that’s a little bit before me time…some of that was the Lindros trade right?

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

all of that was.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hextall too? I didn’t remember that.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup. From the leafs they were asking for Dougie, Felix +

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

here’s the trade from wiki

They received in the trade the rights to eventual Hart Trophy winner Peter Forsberg, as well as Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchesne, a 1st round selection (Jocelyn Thibault) in 1993, a 1st round selection (later traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs, later traded to the Washington Capitals—Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994, and $15,000,000 cash

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn son, that’s a lot

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah hello team. They already had Sakic they got 2 picks, a starting goalie, an enforcer a superstar, a hell of a checker a great offensive D, a depth player and 15 mil in bail money for the theft.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah man, that would cover 0.015% of Belfour’s attempted bribe of the police officer.

…too soon?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s never too soon to chuckle at drunk Eddie

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

they actually made two trades that day. They also had a trade setup with the Rangers and changed their mind after getting Philly’s offer. Had to go to arbitration over who got him.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Rangers offered Doug Weight, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, John Vanbiesbrouck, three first round draft picks (1993, 1994 & 1995) and $12 million.

They almost got Kovalev’d

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit Doug Weight is old.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah soon he’ll be Doug Grave ..just kidding.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s probably just bitterness, I hate seeing other team succeed when mine isn’t. That or because we lost to them last week.

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

we care, friend, we care. I hope you win that huge grand ego prize at the end.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are the best prizes, other than like 50 mil. dollars….

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by Redonred on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really terrible at fantasy hockey

I almost never do it. I’ll probably never change my roster once this season.

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by JP Nikota on Oct 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. that’s why this year I drafted 18 teams lol. Maybe one can finish 2nd.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice, that’s how my program’s dodgeball intramural is working this year…we’ve just signed everyone up so we have half the teams in the league…statistics are awesome.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that press conference closer to the end of last season, where Simmons kept asking about the playoffs and Burke just got fed up and dissed him? Where can I find that…

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It's not on mapleleafs.com?

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I guess I mean, does anyone remember which presser it was

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by happiergilmore on Oct 26, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

think it was teh season wrap up one..it’s like 10 or so parts.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 26, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

my basic searched only found this gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0hVLpSswPE

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 26, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember the specific Simmons one since Burke has ripped on him a few times…but the season wrap up had him chewing Simmons out about offer sheets.

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It happened after the Kaberle trade I believe.

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by BCapp on Oct 26, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought. Simmons was asking about playoffs, Habs always making it, squeaking in, etc..

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by happiergilmore on Oct 26, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was another one but it wasn’t Simmons, eventually Burke just ignored the guy and went “next question”. If you find that one, I think it was beforehand.

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by vrccan on Oct 26, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird

Check out this video at 4:10

Burke brings up Steckel. Guess he likes him

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by happiergilmore on Oct 26, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

links are nice sometimes

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Oops...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPqXGBp7vKY

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, nice catch.

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Cool drop that in the FTB tomorrow.

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by BCapp on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have school so I’m not around during the day. Would you do it?

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Going to school rather than staying home to post on a blog? I’ll never understand kids…

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have hockey tryouts :)

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh FINE

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify, that’s fine to your reply, not fine to dropping the link, I’m not around in the mornings haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I assume BCapp will pick up the slack, he’s a workhorse on here.

Coach is taking us to MTL for a tourney in December, can’t miss out on that.

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s a month after it matters though.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canadian high-school hockey? It never matters

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?! Damnit, I need to make a few phone calls…

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

… Explain?

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

A joke made at 12:20 in the morning that didn’t go over well…I beg you not to make me elaborate.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You must

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s not that bad actually, just a failed attempt at sarcasm.

I was a science nerd playing in the band growing up…I’ve told far worse in my time.

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I still don’t get it.. Maybe it’s just me? I’m sure you had all the kids playing horns rolling with laughter

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by happiergilmore on Oct 27, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I played tuba and my friend playing clarinet used to try to swish pennies into my bell during practice…so really the other way around.

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Which video?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Third Sedin scores again…2-0 St. Louis

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T. Sedin > H. Sedin + D. Sedin

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T Sedin would be his dad no? He was the OG sedin. This one is A Sedin. Not just a sedin but THE Sedin.

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Ah true, good point. Well, THE Sedin is on FIRE!

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I’m sure somewhere right now Fletcher is …..staring into space thinking about…..Clark Gable’s first movie.

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The Wizard of Naz…im Kadri…fuck, BRING ME ARROWROOTS!!!!!

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Fletch making noodles

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He tried stealing them from the swimming pool at the end of the lane, but then realized those weren’t the right kind of noodles.

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Last one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rh2wST3eLBg
The first two minutes was what I was looking for.

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Nice, always brilliant.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

not familiar enough with Bill to quote him but I will take it one step further from mr Hedberg :

I used to do drugs, I still do, but I used to, too.

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hahaha, oh man I totally stole his “every picture is a picture of you when you were younger” line.

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Even his lame jokes were funny because it was him. And he only had about 1% lame jokes. I was so sad when he died.

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I said, that tree is far away

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by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mumble and speed-talk. And I work in a call centre haha figure that one out. I should use that line daily.

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If I was on the phone with Telus and the person on the other end said that, I would immediately demand to speak to their supervisor so that I could give them positive feedback.

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That’s awesome. I tried to give someone at visa a compliment to the supervisor but they hung up before I could explain myself lol. Paranoid much?

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lol, too bad…I worked in a government call centre and the one time I got a positive compliment I was on Cloud 9 for like a week afterwards haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

only old people give compliments to me. Usually after I slow down and start yelling the instructions.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah pretty much…where I worked a lot of it was just really a lot of lonely old people calling in…I was equal parts happy to talk to them and sad because there were a lot of senior neglect cases in there.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I get a lot of ‘my husband died and no one wants to help me’ sad stories. I hate hearing that stuff. Then again I get a lot of where is my CCTB so I can buy some more crack to even it out.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s definitely a strange world

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Jerry Springer could get about 30 seasons worth of episode ideas out of one week of GST/CCTB conversations.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, imagine those are younger versions of our GIS conversations…that would be the income supplement by the way, not the information systems I’m studying now…woah, never realized they had the same acronym.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I’m all fucked up from gov’t acronyms. TSO is tax service office so come see the TSO at royal thompson hall always fucks me up.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s just too confusing.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh me too. I talk fast, and have people on the phone all time asking me to slow down when I’m giving them instructions on how to use our software the correct way.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to give tax advice. It doesn’t go over well on the first 9 tries usually.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

1-800-959-8281 ?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

you got it

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice! I used to do summers at the CPP/OAS call centre in Scarborough.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh nice. I always wondered what that’s like. No one under 60 calls so I’m sure your phones are plugged into a stack of marshall amps.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah pretty much…every now and then we’ll get survivor or child disability/survivor calls, but for the most part it’s not using your indoor voice, that’s for sure.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah death benefit calls are probably the only people that can hear you lol.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep…although there was one guy who was in his 90s that was awesome…He was a former serviceman and while I was putting all of his requests through he pretty much told me his life’s story. He also mentioned every second sentence how much Mississauga Transit sucks, which had me laughing out loud by the end of it.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I had a lady say something like she’s trying to spend all her money on chocolate because she doesn’t wanna die going “I could have had 5 more cadburys”

I died laughing.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha so good…she should set up a business based on eating chocolate bars and claim them as depreciable assets each year.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to claim capital cost allowance on this giant fucking chocolate bar. What class does it fall into? I submit. Class 1 : delicious.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just toss in a free sample of business before sending it to Sudbury, she’ll be fine.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I work for a payroll processing company so I do sorta the same at times.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah yes 1-800-959-5525 is your evil cousin

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wooo government hotline party!!!!

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol that sounds …exciting

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure by now they’ve already processed this convo and checked my ip. Well at least Chaim Weisswasser has.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

hehe, before I started at my company I guess the number changed after they started a new area code in the area. The old number apparently became a party/chat line number.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL that’s gold. FRED! your using Sex Lines?!

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha that’s awesome.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya my buddy called it up one day and we listened to it for like 15 mins or so. Can’t believe people call those things.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Your buddy” called it up eh?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya he was the one who knew the old number as he was working there under that number.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe people still buy porn. Like are they living under a rock?

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you full fledge government workers? (benefits)

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually just a summer student for a couple of years, I’m still at school studying at the moment.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Book learnings in Tor? what for?

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Graduated from uni in the summer, now doing a postgraduate certificate at Fleming College for GIS.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

close the the end than

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, done in June, and hopefully not soon after find a job

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s exciting, BTW working for a living blows, in case you had any delusions.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but what I’m discovering as I get older is that not having money blows more…

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea, still hoping for freedom 25 myself, come on Lotto Max

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha nice, freedom 25

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dream about this every night. But I never buy a ticket. Lol the way I see it I’ve already won 10 bucks a week for the last 32 years because of this.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s like a year’s worth of CPP and OAS

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm in a bizarre and backward way I might have retired early.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freedom 32?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My alarm clock just turned itself on and said HAHAHAHAHAAHAHH

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is, I’d kill in a bar full of minor electronics?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but it’s a tough crowd.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, don’t want to get clocked after a few minutes of material

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You animal

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

zing!

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

=D

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

50 mil = buy/get in line for Jays/Leafs season tickets. Than I’m gone without a word to Curaçao for a month+ and than Europe. Yea I used to think about this too much

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking seriously about this lol. With 50 million I’d just bribe someone out of their current seat up to a limit of 10 million. Fuck a wait.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea good call. I don’t know how you could spend it all. Buy an Audi drive from london to Toronto, throw it out, by a BMW, drive back to London, Throw it out. rise and repeat for a few decades maybe

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

well with 3% interest you’d be making 1.5 Mil a year on interest. So yeah might as well dispose of that disgustingly used BMW when you get to London

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personal Ball Washer?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

fuck sakes your right. SEASON TICKETS FOR A PPPERS!!!!

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve thought of this as well lol. I do have to buy a ticket one time to win though and I don’t see that happening, sorry PPP.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea it’s been a while for me did it more often when I wasn’t on nights

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s like $5 per ticket now. I naively thought it was $1. That’s steep.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 years of CPP/OAS

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea $6 with encore. But life is comfy at 1mil and set at 10
I like the new setup were they cap the main prize at 50 and every extra million is a seperate prize. sometimes it’s 50 mil plus 30 more prizes of 1 mil

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

For $50 million I’d buy several sets of season’s tickets in Montreal and send poutines to the games as well.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure 500,000-1,000,000 would be more than enough to get someone to give up their season tickets

by ShahofToronto on Oct 27, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That and a nice penthouse/condo close to the ACC and I am happy for the rest of my life

by ShahofToronto on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know it I could do DT Tor for my whole life. For a while I’d love it.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what the lavish vacations around the world are for. Nice beach house will melt that downtown stress away

by ShahofToronto on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably. That’d be pretty dope. I might have to string a rope across and rappel down to my seat with a grappling hook. When they fined me I’d laugh and slap them with a wad of cash.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you’re Vanna White

I turn letters…..

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

but only when they glow

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tough job, but someone’s gotta do it.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Pension and all that stuff everyone hates about us.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice, how long have you been there?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 years in December.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool…can’t remember the terminology, but I think we called them program advisors, people that were there to basically be complete nerds about CPP and OAS and know everything…are you one of those?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just applied to be a ‘resource officer’ which would be the same thing for tax. You sit on your ass and agents ask you questions when they don’t understand the answer.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that’s what I was thinking…we had one for CPP, one for OAS and one that as far as I can tell was just there to start arguments about legislative minutae between the other two.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah technically you’re supposed to be super anal about references and never answer yes/no. But if you get a team of vets you can just read all 4 major newspapers every day.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can understand that…they were beta-testing an e-mail answer service and they were always super careful about what they put in replies on those.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah CRA is about 60 years behind on e-mailing anything.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh gawd, don’t I know it.

“What do you mean I have to drive down to the office and hand over a paper in Calgary that someone in Winnipeg needs to see?”

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Oct 27, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here are some basic rules for dealing with the CRA.

1. Don’t drop anything off in Calgary because it will take them 2 extra weeks to mail it to Winnipeg and that’s also one extra chance they will lose it.

2. Don’t ever send anything original unless you’re being audited then you have no choice sometimes. Just pray a lot

3. Use couriers if it’s important and have them sign for it and then call incessantly to make sure it’s being processed. Otherwise you might wait a few months and finally call only to be told that they don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, our app for tracking mail was a joke

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That being said, it looks like their website has become a lot better at putting their publications online in recent years.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah you can find mostly anything. But another trick. If you use the search and don’t find what you’re looking for. Just press enter again and sometimes you’ll get a new set of search results with the same keyword. I still can’t fathom how this can actually happen but it does.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol nice

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s awesome though. I have RRSPs, but in the next few decades RRSP and or pensions are going to save so many people. So hard to save for retirement.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

RRSP’s are good. TFSA’s are even better. Max the shit out of those.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am hitting all of that shit up as soon as I get income…

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the good thing is room carries over for both. You should probably use all that tuition up first before you tap into RRSP deductions. Unless you start instantly balling right out of school.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been sending $5000 of it every year to my parents, but I think I’ve got enough that I can probably go a year or two without it being used up.

So both RRSP and TFSA carry over?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah your RRSP limit carries over and TFSA is a virtual limit. It started in 09 so if you put money in for the first time in say 2 years from now you can put in 25K right off the bat. And with indexation that might even go up to 26K

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hrm, I need to read more on this obviously…I was chatting with one of your coworkers a few months ago and they said to use 18% and $5000 per year roughly for budgeting purposes, but they didn’t mention the carryover.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah RRSP is 18% of your earned income to a max of 22K I think minus Pension adjustments if you work at a place with a company pension (yeah right). And it just builds. TFSA’s are straight 5K a year plus withdrawals from the previous year. Technically if you hit a miracle stock you can turn 5K into say 200K and pull that out. Next year you’d have 205K limit.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, so how does the RRSP carryover work? It would be 18% of my income from the years where I didn’t make a contribution?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

18% of your earned income from the years that you worked basically minus any contributions you made. So if you didn’t make any it just takes 18% of your earned income (employment, self employment and the like) and adds itself every year. So if you earned 10K one year you’d get 1800 room. Next year you Make 5K you add another 900 and now you have 2700 total room.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh okay, thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I definitely need to do some reading on this, sooner rather than later too. I have my budgets made out for my expected income level to max those out as soon as possible, but what to do with them once they’re actually in the accounts is something else entirely.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

don’t buy just an interest generating TFSA you’ll get like 10 bucks a year. Get a stock trading one and try to find some good advice about the market. Or if you want to be super safe GIC’s.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

GICs generate what, 5% a year if you lock in your money long-term ?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe about that. Probably for long lock-ins.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks for the advice. Sorry about making you talk work away from the office, haha.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

no worries. It’s all memorized so it’s not like I have to do any actual work. And you haven’t called me a government pig once so that’s a bonus

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, nope, if anything I might bug you for more information at a later yet unspecified date.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s fine. That goes for anyone else here if you need tax help.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome thanks, I owed a thousand last year so I wanna avoid that next time.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah ask away next time. Save receipts for everything except food (unless you’re entertaining clients) and sort em out later. It’s tedious but you can just pile that shit somewhere and come back to it in april. It might save a few hundred bucks.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So do you work at the call centre in Scarborough or the one in North York? When I was working at Scarborough I loved that they were all placed closed to the TTC.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m technically part of the Front St. office but the call site is near the Eaton centre.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh cool, didn’t even know there was one there…that’s pretty sweet.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it’s an awesome location if you don’t mind being hit up every 5 mins for change “so I can just buy a ticket back to windsor”

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those guys have found their way onto subway platforms now, it’s crazy.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s fun asking them how come they’re still here when last week all they needed was 2 more bucks for the ticket.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

ZING!

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I never really thought of either the career or the finances aspect of things when I was going through uni and ended up SOL job-wise as a result…trying to do both of those things right this time through.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Many people get absolutely nothing out of theirs. So many people with Uni papers work at grocery stores ect.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah for sure..can’t be too sore about it because I did find a field I’m really passionate about anyway.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I took on the CRA job because it paid double my last job and it seemed important. I knew nothing about tax when I started but now I’ve found I actually like this work. Total luck.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s awesome, it was pretty lucky me doing anything with GIS as well, so I can relate to that…minus the earning money part of course, lol.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

awsome I just dove in after highschool and hoped for the best. so far so good.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

no problem maxing that out. The IBEW wage package puts in $5/hr as an apprentice and $6/hr as a journeyman

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s a great plan.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea when I was non union we had nothing, I seriously don’t know how people retire without one of those

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

they make 6600 bucks a year on OAS and 12000 a year on CPP. Aka they eat a biscuit and a cup of tea a day and sleep.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

sleeping is pretty sweet…

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

great diet plan

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

so are the biscuits

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

ARROWROOTS

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

verry under rated

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love air farce.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, was a weekly tradition in my house growing up.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Back in the day it was awesome. As a youngan I lov ed the chicken cannon

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This hour has 22 minutes was good early on too, I like Rick Mercer

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s all good.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

for me the Jacques Perizeau separation board game was a personal fave.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

the best part is the rules keep changing, just like in Quebec politics

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol the Lucien Bouchard foot as a playing piece made me pee myself.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah that was definitely one of my favourite air farce moments.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

SO how did the Marlies do?

from what iheard there doing good and there abouit too get they addition of Kadri.

by Jt Malley on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it was 5-0 Colborne with 3 more pts

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It shouldn’t, but it gives me hope that he can eventually fill the top centre role. Waiting till mid Novemeber at least before I make any conclusions about the Marlies or the Leafs though.

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well he’s huge and sees the ice well. Has a good pass and now apparently a good nose for the net. I don’t think your expectations are out of line. I didn’t think he’d be raping the league like he is right now though. I love a good surprise.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I think it`s probably me just trying to temper expectations. big+skill-slowness=good

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I don’t think he’s the next Antropov. More like the next Allison (when he was good). ..nevermind I don’t know what I’m saying. he just joe fucking goalborne

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

still a SSA but ya he’s been great sofar along with Crabb. Lets see where they are 20 games in.

by Nigel Cadbury on Oct 27, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets see how a Kadri Colborne duo does :D

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

anyways sleep must commence g’night

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Night!

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri-Colborne-Crabb, wow they’ll tear it up even more

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do have to admit to being very surprised at his over 2 ppg pace thus far though, like you

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it’s hard to expect that kind of awesome.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

For sure…you have work tomorrow?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to call in sick I have a swollen throat or something. I gotta see the doc or something it’s been killing me all day.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh…just got over a bout of flu myself, wasn’t fun at all.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think mine might be tooth related since it’s only on one side and the pain shoots up to my tooth. But I think antibiotics are in order before the dentist starts crushing my soul.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, good call

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

boxscore

here

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

5-0 I believe 3 points for Colborne and Crabb

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

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by Redonred on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who are you guys more worried about.

Aulie 7gp no points
or Caputi 7gp 1 points.

by Jt Malley on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Aulie, mostly b/c my expectations for him are much higher, although not necessarily with points

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not that worried yet. It’s still early and him scoring isn’t that important to me. I’ll start to bitch if he’s still stank by January.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, pretty much my feeling as well

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t expect anything from Caputi. Fucking guy can’t even shell Frank D’Angelo.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

 He’s good for an AHL career and guido jokes. That’s about it. Considering we sold high on Ponikarovsky to get him, I’m none too worried.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Poni has scored a whopping 9 goals since he left us.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

we got 102 out of him in 5 seasons. Talk about selling at a good time.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

114 all together

/Burtch’d

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burtch’d because of the stats, or the long string of self-replies?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Self replies. I’m not on a Burtch level for stats. I wonder if that’s how he teaches class. With long pauses. Before you can ask to clarify, he clarifies for you.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’d be intense and not intense at the same time

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure he’s a good teacher if you’re into learning everything about everything.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I loved teachers like that in math and science

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

for me it was history and I had a good one in HS and an amazing one at U of T. My parents are both mathematicians and sort of overruled everything my math teachers ever taught me.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah fair enough…I can see a history teacher like that being amazing

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah she was awesome. I caught her at the end of her tenure. The university prof actually sent me home once because my home country had a revolution and he told me I’m not allowed to be away from my TV while history is being made

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, what country is that?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Serbia, which used to be Serbia and Montenegro, which used to be Federal republic of Yugoslaiva, which used to be socialist federal republic of yugoslavia, which used to be the Kingdom of yugoslavia, which used to be Kingdom of Serbs and Croats which used to be Kingdom of Serbia.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was the Daily Show who once joked that by 2050, every citizen of the former Yugoslavia will be their own independent republic.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 27, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much lol. Can’t wait to make mine into a serfdom.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s quite a few transitions

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the ugly statistic is that every Serb male has on average seen 2 wars in their lifetime. We’re in the middle of the balkan shitstorm.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and that’s without even mentioning the Kosovo War either.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Oct 27, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well in my lifetime there was 2. Kosovo and Bosnia and if you count the Nato war seperately then 3. My grandma has seen 7 technically.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I have no idea how I exist to be honest.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

My father was alive during the partition of India and Pakistan…that was scary enough to hear about.

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

the world is nuts.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Were you born there?

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by vrccan on Oct 27, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I came here when I was 10

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

by Chuck Diesel on Oct 27, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha yea we did good, but it would have been nice to get another guy that was in there system at the time.

I think Goligoski was down there he woulda been nice or Tyler Kennedy. But no Luca Caputi i was happy with him but ever since the cheeta surge commercial shame on you luca.

by Jt Malley on Oct 27, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he wanted to have something in common with Espo. Or maybe he was the only non-retired Italian hockey player who D’Angelo could get.

Raycroft! I like the move. Falls inline with the push for youth and is a solution for the future. Trading Rask was unfortunate, but with Pogge and Raycroft only being 26, I think the TO goaltending future is a bright one. - Some guy from 2006

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