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A Comedy of Errors - Part Four, in which Everything is Terrible.

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Welcome back. In today's episode, there's a serial killer on the loose...in CSI: Balamory! [/joke that will only really make much sense to Brits]. I hope I'm not the only one who basically exploded laughing at the indescribable picture of Mangled-Face-Stormtrooper Ian White, who looks like he was a Goldeneye character removed very (very very very) early on in the development process for being just too freaky. Also, who knew Alex Steen was a Manchester City fan? I can safely say I have progressed beyond general dislike for the man and now actively hope he flames out in St. Louis, the money-grabbing bastard.

Star-divide

So, 2003. A draft year like any other, it seemed at the time - Pittsburgh made what some thought an odd choice, taking goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury from the QMJHL at #1, but much as some people might have wanted a do-over in the years where Fleury stumbled and guys like Eric Staal flourished, it's working out for the Pens now, something I'm sure has absolutely nothing to do with the presence of that one guy, what's-his-face...y'know, Concussy St. Falldown. Time has proven kind to the 2003 first round in particular, with even Hugh Jessiman getting to appear in a game, so it makes a kind of twisted, narratively-horrible sense that Toronto didn't appear until midway through the second round. Our first-round pick went to Boston, as the final horrible part of the Owen Nolan trade, and it's a small mercy they picked Mark Stuart rather than...Christ, imagine what the Bruins'd be like with Ryan Kesler or Mike Richards in the squad. Our second-round pick was #57, which is where we jump in.

Buckle up. This one's a doozy.

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Round 2, #57 Overall - John DOHERTY

0 GP

Not to suggest that all players drafted from unconventional sources will turn out to be utter shite, but Doherty was picked out of Phillips-Andover, a school whose hockey pedigree doesn't appear to be the greatest and that I would assume plays at a level of competition significantly below what Doherty would later experience at college or in the USHL. After leaving school, he spent two seasons with the University of New Hampshire where, in a sign things probably weren't going to pan out for him, he appeared in just nineteen games. He managed nearly forty playing with Des Moines in the USHL, but then appeared to drop off the radar entirely for two years, resurfacing with Quinnipac University in 2006. To this day, the six games he played with the Columbia Inferno - once Toronto's ECHL affiliate - remain the highest point of his career. And that's terrible.

Still On The Board: Maxim Lapierre (61), David Backes (62), Jimmy Howard (64)

Verdict: Setting the tone for the rest of this draft, Doherty was a horrible pick. Phillips-Andover might not be as bad as I've painted it - it appears Shattuck-St. Mary's is considered on the same level, and you could make a hell of a starting lineup from their alumni - but Doherty remains a prime example of why drafting out of high school is a giant crapshoot.

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Round 3, #91 Overall - Martin SAGAT

0 GP

Purely from a punning perspective I'm disappointed Sagat never appeared in the NHL. Imagine if he turned out to be a gifted fighter, like a proper old-school enforcer, we'd have delighted ourselves riffing on Street Fighter puns until the end of time. He gets a game misconduct for a questionable hit? TIGER KNEE-ON-KNEE! He KOs Matt Carkner? TIGER UPPERCUT! And...well, I'm sure there's more punning potential. I don't know, it's not MY job to come up with this crap, leave me alone! Sagat did make the jump to America post-draft, playing two years with the Kootenay Ice and a further two with the Marlies, but evidently wasn't retained past 2007 and returned to Europe. Whether he's still active I have no idea. Shame.

Still On The Board: Zach Stortini (94)

Verdict: Well, obviously he's a bust. He seemed to top out as an AHL plugger, which would have been a good result in a sixth or seventh round pick, but we expect more from people picked in the top hundred.

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Round 4, #125 Overall - Konstantin VOLKOV

0 GP

I believe Volkov is actually still in the system, but I haven't been able to find anything to corroborate that. Surprisingly, the guy was expected to go higher than this - apparently, the CSB had him ranked #14 among European skaters at one point, and history (/my five minutes of Google research) does not recall why he fell to the fourth round; whatever reason probably played a part in his lack of development as well. He's currently in the KHL, where he's been for the last two years.

Still On The Board: Kyle Quincey (132). Paul Bissonnette was picked at 121.

Verdict: Bust. It probably seemed like a great sleeper pick at the time.

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Round 5, #158 Overall - John fucking MITCHELL

159 GP - 20 + 35 = 55, -30, 76 PIM

Yep. Here it is, folks, you now have to accept that John fucking Mitchell was the best player the Toronto Maple Leafs drafted in 2003. There are worse outcomes, but this is pretty terrible. Now, in the man's defence, he was never a truly, apocalyptically bad player - his stats, particularly in the AHL, are really pretty good for a fifth-round pick, the best being the 07/08 season where he put up 51 points in 79 games with the Marlies and added 12 more over the course of the playoffs. And considering he was mostly just a plugger, averaging 0.38 points/game in limited time is not bad work. In the man's prosecution, however, he is still John fucking Mitchell, a man for whom the turnover was less an error in judgement and more an art form.

Still On The Board: Brad Richardson (163), Marc Methot (168)

Verdict: Weeeell...neutral. Arguably a win, but using that word too close to John fucking Mitchell will make him break out in hives and hives are too good for the man.

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Round 7, #220 Overall - Jeremy WILLIAMS

32 GP - 9 + 2 =11, 0, 6 PIM

Wikipedia says that he scored goals in each of his first three games, with each of them coming in a different season - playing once in 2005, once in 2006 and a positively marathon-esque 18 times in 2007. I get the sense he's a typical ‘tweener', not quite good enough to keep his place on an NHL roster but a very solid AHL player - he tallied 404 games in the AHL in total, first with our affiliates, then with the Wings and Rangers' baby clubs, and left America with exactly 300 points to show for it.

Still On The Board: Jay Rosehill (227)

Verdict: A limited win. Nothing was expected of Williams and he delivered a fair bit more than that.

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Round 8, #237 Overall - Shaun LANDOLT

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Never made it. With a career high of 42 points, attained with the Calgary Hitmen in the WHL in his overage season - he was 20, I think that's overage - it's fair to assume expectations were fairly non-existent and boy howdy, did he deliver. Popped up for four games with the Marlies, played a season with the Pensacola Ice Pilots and Victoria Salmon Kings - the latter in 2008 after he spent the season enjoying life as a point-per-game player in the Italian league, meaning there's an excellent chance he just turned up one day with a pair of skates and everybody thought he belonged there.

Still On The Board: Tobias Enstrom (239), Dustin Byfuglien (245), Shane O'Brien (250), Matt Moulson (263), Tanner Glass (265) and Jaroslav Halak (271), among others.

Verdict: Eh. I'm inclined to call him a bust because if we were two picks later we'd have a defensive corps that goes Schenn-Enstrom-Phaneuf-Gunnarsson-Franson-Liles. THIS WOULD BE THE CASE ENSTROM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TRADED BY JFJ FOR SOMEBODY HISTORICALLY AWFUL LET ME BELIEVE.

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Overview

Picks: Six

Career Players: Zero. Mitchell falls short by about fifty games and MIGHT make it, but it's a long shot.

Grade: F. No career players, nothing until the fifth round and John fucking Mitchell was the best player we got. Plus, our first round pick was the final part of that terrible, terrible Nolan deal. Literally the only reason I am not giving this a worse grade (F-, unclassified, A--) is because Mitchell wasn't as impossibly awful as he could have been.

Poll
What grade would you give this draft?
F---
73 votes
Quantifiably the worst thing to happen to Canada
81 votes
0
23 votes
I am John Mitchell and feel bad about myself
124 votes
Pat Buchanan
52 votes

353 votes | Poll has closed

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OH GOD. MAKE THE HORROR STOP.

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by article1 on Oct 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow………That is all.

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by SPERO on Oct 3, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

yaaaaa...

anybody wanna argue that drafting was JFJ’s saving grace? 2003 was one of the best drafts in recent memory, we got JFM. FML

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by AkiSchennberg on Oct 3, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless my timeline is screwed up, this is the last Quinn draft.

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by clrkaitken on Oct 3, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is correct. JFJ was not hired until August of 2003. Which might explain in part the terrible draft – maybe Quinn saw the writing on the wall and said, fuck it, I’m drafting JFM!

by unavoidable on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We also didn’t have a pick in the top 56. Most of those studs you hear about were taken there.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Still on the board: Zack Stortini

HOW COULD WE LET THIS HAPPEN

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by Chemmy on Oct 3, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously. We drafted late in a top heavy draft. Picks after 50 are pretty hit or miss.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im just pissed that we missed the first round of a draft where Perry, Kesler, Richards and Loui Eriksson were all easy reaches for said pick, but like you said, thank the warm and fluffy lord that the Bruins picked Stewart

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 3, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the second time I’ve found myself disagreeing with your take on draft strategy; in this case, I don’t think picks start being genuinely hit and miss until quite a bit later than that. I’ve been setting a mental benchmark at the end of the third round – past that, anything you get is a nice bonus, but if a kid is judged to be one of the best hundred players who are draft eligible, something should be expected from them.

Not criticising, by any means. I find it interesting that I seem to be quite harsh in my judgements.

by Be26 on Oct 3, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Cullen’s work from ’95-2004 after the first 30 you have between a 25-30% chance of getting an NHLer (defined as someone who plays 100 NHL games). After pick 55 its about 25% and below 20% by the end of the 3rd round.

According to Daoust’s spreadsheet (I am using one that is about a year old, ask him for a link to hte most up to date one), which tracked 94-2005 the likelihood of a 1st rounder to play 200 games is 57.2%, a second rounder is 21.9%, and a 3rd rounder is 15.9%. Unfortunately he doesn’t get more specific than that. Based on that I would consider it a success to get a regular NHLer after about the midway point of the second round.

That being said I would rather swing for the fences as much as possible, because depth talent can often be replaced from UFA at a price that is almost as cheap as growing them yourself. Its high end talent that is both very expensive and very difficult to get get through trade and UFA.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at it this way. In any give year there are about 600 NHLers, about 400-450 of which are “NHL regulars”. If you expect a lot out of the top 100 you would be seeing a 25% turnover every year.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Btw when is the other time we disagreed?

I am a swing for the fences guy for the most part in a draft. I am just not prepared to get upset that a guy taken outside of the top 40 or 50 panned out. Most don’t.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t find the comment, but I think you said that outside of the top ten people shouldn’t expect to get an NHL regular? Something along those lines? I remember seeing it and immediately thinking that I’d set the bar higher and that if you’re drafting in the first round period you should expect to get a career player out of it, if not a top-six forward/top-four defenseman, if not from the second round as well. If you burn a first-round pick on a guy who doesn’t reach that level, to me he’s a bust. Like you said, it’s incredibly easy to find bottom-six forwards and bottom pairing defensemen in free agency.

It’s also possible I’m basing this off an incorrectly-remembered remark, so take it with a pinch of salt. I’m clearly a harsh grader.

by Be26 on Oct 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I remember making that. It was a comment that came out wrong.

What I was trying to say was that after the top 10 you should be happy with getting an NHL regular. But when I thought about it more that was oversimplying. You should still aim higher than just an NHLer in the entire first round and maybe even second. But from a historical outlook after the top 10-15 getting a regular NHLer is at least something.

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by BCapp on Oct 3, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d take Stortini over somebody who never played an NHL game in his life in a heartbeat.

by Be26 on Oct 3, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

In hindsight, sure

OTOH I’d rather take a flyer on a guy who had 1 chance in 20 at being Bozak than a guy I knew was going to be Stortini.

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by Back In Black on Oct 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can parts 5-10 be worse? :D

by spoonie on Oct 3, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

when i compiled the list of worst team drafts ever this only missed the cut because the leafs traded their first round pick

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by Ubiquitous on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Kudos for the Street Fighter tie-in.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Oct 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Be honest, if you lined up for a faceoff and saw Sagat across from you you’d shit your guts out in terror.

by Be26 on Oct 3, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a little beyond ‘too horrible to laugh at’… if not for the jokes in the article, i think i might have papercut myself to death

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by Vitamin_M on Oct 3, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

jeremy williams

how did this guy fizzle out? i remember him scoring some big goals in clutch situations…. then he’d disappear back into the minors…. not sure why he was never called up for a longer stint….

by magecanuck on Oct 3, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

He only ever had 9 goals in his entire NHL career spread over 4 seasons with Toronto and then the 1 game he played with the Rangers in which he didn’t score. I don’t think he really had that many “big goals in clutch situations” considering the amount he scored. I think you might be overvaluing him in your memory. He never really fizzled out, as there was not that much to fizzle. A 7th round pick who proved that he couldn’t stick in the NHL… his potential was quite small to begin with.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Oct 3, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he did better than his 7th round status would suggest…… i think he scored in his first few games or something like that… so i though ‘aha! a diamond in the rough!’ butttttttt then he disappeared, and like you said probably didn’t prove he could stick it out in the nhl. too bad.

by magecanuck on Oct 4, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus fucking christ what the hell is this

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by Chris Stoikoff on Oct 3, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

These are the bustiest bunch of busts that have ever busted

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 3, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Are they elite busts?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Oct 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

/furiouslysmashesheadagainstdesk

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by Cam Oegema on Oct 3, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

We woulda done better drafting figure skaters. This is quite the pathetic performance. That 2nd round pick in particular was just an awful choice.

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by Chuck Diesel on Oct 4, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Y’see? Now THIS is a bad draft! But after rating the other ones so low, giving this pile of steaming shit an “F” seems waaaaaay too kind.

I give it an R. R-.

;-)

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by not norm ullman on Oct 4, 2011 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

John Mitchell

Seriously guys. Our best player was John fucking Mitchell.

JOHN FUCKING MITCHELL

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by MLS on Oct 4, 2011 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Even the Rangers got Nigel Dawes out of 2003 (and no one else)

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by Ubiquitous on Oct 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

something i wrote last year

12/12/2010 Drafts. Sometimes they are great, sometimes they suck.

After much scouring, i have determined(with substantial bias) the worst draft classes ever. (1985-2004). Strangely the sabres of the early 2000s didn’t make this list (through a valiant effort saved by players like Nathan Paetsch in the 192nd round[approximate])

The Loser: 1990 Edmonton oilers. Top 3 picks: 17,38,59. 11 picks total. No NHL games, at all. I can’t even fathom how bad the scouting has to be to not have even one of them play a single game.
Runners-up:
1999 Montreal Canadians: Top 3 picks: 29, 58, 97. 11 picks total. 111 NHL games, all by Matt Carkner who left MTL as a free agent before playing any of them.
1999 Maple Leafs: Top 3 picks: 24, 60, 108. 9 picks total. 3 NHL games played.
Honorable mentions: 1996 blackhawks, 1996 red wings, 2002 canucks, the canucks in general.

Obligatory "Glen Sather is the worst GM ever" entry: 2003 NYR. The best first round in the history of the NHL and Hugh Jessiman plays zero games. Oh, and your next three picks: 1 game. You’re lucky your late round picks bailed you out or it would have been you and the 1990 oilers as the only two i mentioned.

In conclusion, canadian teams suck at drafting. Ottawa narrowly escaped, but was in the final ten worst drafts ever, even though they only had five valid drafts. Calgary had a bad draft, but it was too recent so i held off final judgement: (Best hope: new Hurricane Brett Sutter.)

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by Ubiquitous on Oct 4, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Ottawa only escaped because they had so many low picks they had to strike a good one sooner or later, also from a games played perspective, Phillips is good, but as a 1st over all, not so much
having the spezza pick from the islanders helped too

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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 4, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I excluded all drafts where there was a top-3 pick outright so they only had 5 valid drafts. Though their drafts were actually pretty good, other than 2002 (Jakob Klepis and no one else)

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by Ubiquitous on Oct 4, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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