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Prediction Series: Leafs Edition 2011-2012

Welcome to my second post in my "Prediction Series". At first I was going to go through my predicted scoring for each guy dressed in the Blue and White. But that has been done to death and I decided to instead make a bunch of specific predictions about the Leafs. Ten seemed like a nice round number so here they are:

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  1. Nikolai Kulemin will score more goals than Mikhail Grabovski.
    Simply put this is not a statistical argument and is as much a bet as it is a prediction (I want that pint nhlcheapshot). Many around here (myself included), think Kulemin's goal scoring will regress a bit from last season. This is due in large part to his extremely high SH% from last year and relatively low shots/game. However, Kulemin's shots/game have been increasing year to year and while I agree his SH% was inflated last year, I don't necessarily think it will regress quite as much as others. A large part of this is based off of JP Nikota's excellent work on shot and goal location. As you can see, last year he scored almost all his goals in the "slot" or from high scoring areas. As well from watching him play (and his 30 goals on youtube) I saw how many "garbage" goals he gets (they tend to inflate SH%).

    Compared directly to Grabovski their GPG's with the Leafs have been very similar. Over the last 3 years Grabovski has had a 0.26, 0.17, 0.36, compared to Kulemin's 0.21, 0.21, 0.37. So Grabs was better, than Kule was better, than roughly the same. However Kule did that from 22-24, while Grabs did it from 25-27.

  2. Joffrey Lupul will score more goals than (at least one of) Grabovski and Kulemin.
    I feel like Joffrey Lupul has become the goat around here for many Leafs fans (for example he was labelled as predicted goat of the year two out of 6 times by the writers at Leafs Nation). While his game has a fair bit of defensive deficiencies, he is actually a very good goal scorer. Over the last 4 years Lupul has scored at a 0.33 GPG which ranks 30th for wingers and 48th for skaters. This is virtually the same GPG as he had with the Leafs last year (0.32). While his full season GPG last year was much lower 0.26, I believe it was depressed by his (a) coming off a major injury, which lasted ~ a year and included losing THIRTY POUNDS, and (b) depressed ice time (13:13 vs 17:53). Over a full season with the leafs I think he'll score at roughly a 0.33 GPG. If he can play 75 GP (obviously a bold prediction based on recent injuries) than he'll score 25 G.

  3. Captain Dion Phaneuf will bounce back to form and have a good (not Norris level) season.
    After coming back from injury, Phaneuf seemed to find his offense. His goal scoring, point scoring, PP production, and intimidation (at least from my perspective) of opposing forwards all seemed to improve. I think he'll have a bit of a bounce back season with 12-15 goals, 40-50 points, and greater than 24 minutes TOI/GP.

  4. Our ES goals from defenseman will drastically improve.
    While many are concerned about the defensive play of Cody Franson, many hope that his offensive contribution will balance that out. However, I think many are assuming that it will come from PP production and this is where I disagree. Last year Franson was 11th for a D-man in ES G/60 and the year before he was 4th (they have Biz Nasty listed as a D for some reason). Combine that with Schenn, Gunnar, and Phaneuf being 54th, 64th, and 59th last season and 27th, 35th, and 58th the year before. That is a fair bit of even strength goal scoring ability from our D. I think we can have 18 ES goals from our D.

  5. Scrivens will get a taste of NHL action.
    Ben Scrivens was IMHO the best goal tender in the preseason. I predict at some point this season either Reimer/Gus will get injured for a short period or Gus will tank and Scrivens will get called up. While this has happenned before (he backed up Reimer a few times), I think this time he'll get some game action. I predict he'll play at least 180 minutes of NHL hockey.

  6. Kessel will have the most goals of his career thus far.
    While I don't think Kessel has a chance of beating his GPG record (0.51 set in 08-09 wiht Savard), I believe he has a shot at cracking the 36 goals he scored that year. Over last 3 years he has seen his GPG decrease from 0.51, 0.43, to 0.39. However he has done it with progressively worse passers as his C. He's gone from Savard (5th in assists/game for a C since the lockout with 0.78), to Stajan (89th with 0.34), to Bozak (105th with 0.30). On that list Connoly ranks 17th with a 0.59. Between having a better passing C and (ideally) his SH% bouncing back some (his last two years were slightly below his career average) he can bump his GPG back up to ~0.45. If he can play 82 GP that is 37 G.

  7. Liles will become a fan favourite.
    Who around here isn't missing ol' rosey cheeks? Well I believe that Liles can come in and help to fill that void. By providing a similar skill set, with slightly poorer passing skills (who can thread a pass from the goalie line to the opposing blue line like Kaberle?) but slightly better shooting skills he'll provide a good compliment to Schenn. The two of them will be relied on to play a fairly large amount of minutes and will be playing exciting hockey. Combine that with what I expect to be solid PP production and I think he'll be loved.

  8. Schenn will play tougher minutes.
    This one is pretty simple. Many have pointed out that Schenn isn't a true shut-down D-man yet because he doesn't play very hard competition and this is true. However, he is still very young and slowly seeing his responsibilities increased. Last year he saw his minutes take a fairly large bump and this year I think we'll see the quality of his opponents rise.

  9. At least one of Carl Gunnarsson, Tyler Bozak, or Clark MacArthur will not finish the year in the blue and white.
    While I don't like this, I think it is pretty likely that at least one of them will be moved. With Komi nearly untradeable, Liles an offensive stop gap, Phaneuf and Franson brought in by Burke, Schenn being Schenn (Burke seems unwilling to even consider moving him), and a lot of D-prospects pushing up from the AHL many believe that Gunnarson will be traded. They believe he is the most tradeable asset, with a cheap cap hit, good offense and solid D. Similarly, up front we have a lot of prospects pushing to get into the game and if any of them prove themselves NHL calibur (perhaps in an injury call up), I think Burke is prepared to make a move for that big forward he wants. To me the most likely to move forwards are Bozak and MacArthur. I will again reiterate, that these are not the forwards I WANT to move, just the ones I think likely. While Bozak is coming off a poor year, he is still young, seems to have at least 3rd line C offense, is good in the dot, and reasonably responsible defensively. MacA on the other hand had an explosive year last year and I have a feeling that Burke doesn't necessarily believe he can repeat (I think he'll crack 50 again).

  10. This prediction includes the season and next summer. I think both Kule and Grabs will be resigned.
    If they both score ~ 25 G and 50-55 points (my prediction) than I think they'll be in for raises of roughly a combined 9.5 mil. Right now they are making 5.25 mil combined so we need 4.25 mil more in cap space. Replacing Liles with Gardiner will save us ~3 million. Frankly I think the other 1.25 can be found relatively easily (we have that much space now anyway). While some argue that Grabs should be let go as he will be approaching 30 and only have 2-3 years left in his prime, Burke has shown no inclination that he thinks a player in his early 30s is not worth pursuing. An example of this is that he pursued Brad Richards this summer and signed 30 year old Tim Connolly. I also think we will ideally be approaching the stage where it is time to start locking in our prime/veteran aged players and not just continually recycle them for younger players who we hope are as good.

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As I mentioned earlier

this past weekend, since the 1970 season, 2/3rds of all players to post three 30 goal seasons prior to the age of 24 reached their peak in single season goal production within that under-24 part of their careers.

Also, his 36 goal production was the 2nd lowest peak of any player on that list (62 guys)… the only one lower was 33 goals for Linden.

Basically what I’m saying is, the odds are against your Kessel prediction coming true.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I would imagine that most guys that start their career with three 30 goal seasons don’t get paired with increasingly bad centers. Who knows how different his numbers would look if playing alongside Savard the whole time. I wouldn’t want to read too much into his numbers over the last two years. But I’m an optimist.

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Oct 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

the other point

to be made here is, most of these guys were productive in their own right and made their Centre’s better production wise. Arguing that he’s suffered while other guys were putting up 50 goal seasons at the age of 21 in their first two years in the NHL seems a tad revisionist.

Rick Vaive posted multiple 50 goal seasons before the age of 24. He was playing with Bill Deralgo.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you say "who"

I will accept that as a response.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Oct 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing I said was revisionist. My point wasn’t that Kessel would be a 50 goal guy but for Joey Crabb, but rather that reading too much into his production year-to-year, where his linemates got worse as he developed, isn’t necessarily predictive. I don’t remember saying that Kessel was Rick Vaive. The point is that looking at an arbitrary group of players—which Kessel fits into under strange circumstances—doesn’t tell us a lot about what we can expect from him going forward.

Looking at who Kessel had centering him over the last two years, it would be strange if his goals didn’t go up slightly now that he is playing with a much better center. The prediction here was an extra 5 goals over the season. If Connolly can’t do that for him, why are we worried about getting an elite center?

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Oct 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am aware of that. On the other hand because of the fact that his best goal scoring season was in a shortened season he can surpass it with a lower GPG. I really think with a slightly better C and a bit of a bounce back in sh% he can do it.

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

2.Joffrey Lupul will score more goals than (at least one of) Grabovski and Kulemin

I’d love to place a bet here, but I’m unlikely to honour (or remember) it.

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Luckily for you I have made a bets fan shot. I want some odds though because I am making the bolder call.

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1.

The wager : Comment on PPP by the loser, stating “(Winning party) is my uncle.”
Title of the comment must read: “I lost a bet, because I’m stupid”

I’ll double it up if I lose.

Games played minimm?

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can do better than that

The loser must change their avatar to a mug shot of Alfredsson with a caption on it saying “My Hero”.

If I win you have to do it for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs, if you win I’ll do it for the first round of the playoffs.

65 GP minimum?

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m scared

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you in or not? Would you like to have another reward/punishment?

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at you being all assertive.

I’m in.

65 games played, with a +/- difference in GP of 5 games. (If Kuli plays 82, and Lupul 65, for example – it’s not going to be very fair)

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bahaha, its going in the list!

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Added

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you are so going down…
Now I’m totally rooting for Lupul to fail. This is perverse, man. Perverse.

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just root for Grabbo or Kule to be uber awersome!

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 4, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perspective. It changes the way you look at things.

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Oct 4, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

My 10 Predictions for the Maple Leafs for 2011 ~ 2012

1. Maple Leafs will make either the 8th or 7th seed of the first round playoffs.

2. Phaneuf will have a great season and re-establish himself as a premier top D man in the league.

3. MaCarthur will have a Career numbers in points this season

4. Lupul will have a down season

5. Reimer is a hot hot young goalie but history shows that a second year is always the roughest year so Reimer will have a rougher year and may even look tired around February.

6. Grabbo will become a household name as a true gritty leader around the entire NHL and make the All Star as well.

7. Komisarek will not finish the season as a Maple Leaf

8. Orr will be one of the top 5 in penalty minutes leaders in the NHL.(Barring Injury)

9. Kadri & Gunnarsson will have break out seasons and become everyday NHL Players.

10. Kulemin will have more Goals than Grabovski but Grabovski is the heartbeat and pulse of the Forwards just as Phaneuf is the Heartbeat and Pulse of the Defense… How they go is how the team goes. If they are on top .. the team is on top .. if they are slumping.. the team will be slumping.

FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ May you rest in Peace ~ I love you and miss you big Sis ! I cant believe at 44 yrs of age .. you went to sleep and never woke up. I promise to take care of Matt and Emily for you. With Love, your baby Brother.

by FLYERROB on Oct 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

7. Komisarek will not finish the season as a Maple Leaf

You sir, are a reckless dreamer.

I am all that is man,

by antrofan on Oct 5, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I try to go out on a limb with a BOLD prediction every now and then ! Tee Hee

FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ May you rest in Peace ~ I love you and miss you big Sis ! I cant believe at 44 yrs of age .. you went to sleep and never woke up. I promise to take care of Matt and Emily for you. With Love, your baby Brother.

by FLYERROB on Oct 6, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

My 10 predictions:

1. Leafs will make the playoffs with 94 points.
2. Leafs will end up among the top 5 scoring teams in the eastern conference, possibly top 3.
3. Leafs will be improved defensively, but not by much, and PK will still be poor.
4. If Connolly can play 70 games he’ll lead the Leafs in points.
5. Kessel will lead Leafs with 38 goals.
6. Franson will end the season playing top 4 minutes and lead the Leafs in +/-.
7. Lupul will score 25 goals.
8. MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin will not repeat last years production, but will come close.
9. At some point Leafs will make a trade for a forward earning >$5M/yr
10. Matt Frattin will become a fan favourite.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Oct 4, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Most of those predictions seem reasonable individually

But combined thats one optimistic outlook. Top 5 in GF in the East? sign me up. Also I am wondering how this would happen:

3. Leafs will be improved defensively, but not by much, and PK will still be poor.
4. If Connolly can play 70 games he’ll lead the Leafs in points.

If Kessel scores 38 G I am going to assume he has at least 65 points, probably closer to 70 or 75. How much do you propose that Connolly will score in 70 games?

This is a surprisingly small list:

9. At some point Leafs will make a trade for a forward earning >$5M/yr

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 5, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

some of those names terrify me, Gomez? Gionta? Horcoff? ew

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Oct 5, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rolston, Elias, Smyth. To be fair besides Horcroff and Gomez I don’t think there is a player on there that I don’t want for a reason besides them being too old/past their prime.

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 5, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

there are also a few like Iginla, that I would like on the Leafs, but not at any real cost, I love Iggy, but trading what Calgary would want with him (youth and picks) does not bode well for the Leafs

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Oct 5, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that is true for almost anyone on that list really.

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 5, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

only the ones over 33

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Oct 5, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose I should have put the condition that Connolly plays 70 games on Kessel’s 38 goals as well since Connolly will be the key reason for that increase. I think Connolly will score close to a point per game, or slightly better than Kessel, as Connolly will rack up some assists on Lupul’s 25 goals (prediction #7).

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by HockeyAnalysis on Oct 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I guess I just thought that if Kessel is scoring 38 goals he’ll probably hit 70 ish points so Connolly would have to be ppg+

Confused why people think Aulie is better than Gunnarson. Please ask me to explain
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!

by BCapp on Oct 5, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

My 10 predictions for the Leafs 2011-12 season

1. Phil Kessel will lead the team with 40 goals (Yeah, I went there), and after every goal will do an awkward dance
2. Grabovski will score more goals than Kulemin (31 G vs. 26 G), as well as lead the league in pineapples murdered per 60 minutes
3. MacArthur will score 50 points this year, while demolishing some Habs in the process
4. Gunnarsson will not be traded, and will have a career high in points (35 points)
5. Connolly will play more than 50 games
6. Armstrong will play more than 65 games, all while continuing to piss other teams off
7. Scrivens will start ~7 games, Kadri will play more than 45 games (Will end the season with 33 points), and Gardiner will score 22 points in ~50 games
8. Lupul and Franson will not live up to expectations, the Leafs PK will still be lousy, and Reimer will regress to only a .913 SV%.
9. Phaneuf and Liles will score more than 45 points this year, helping improve the team’s PP
10. 8th in the East (ie. PLAYOFFS!!1)

Though, I’m usually lousy with predictions.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

by Frag on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

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