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Coaches Shouldn't Make Predictions

Over the last few weeks everyone and their neighbours has been making their predictions for the upcoming season. TSN spent two and a half hours today going through predictions for everything from who will win the Rocket Richard Trophy (Stamkos) to who will win the Chris Simon Award For Longest Suspension (Matt Cooke) and today's papers and websites will be filled with predictions. In fact, today is basically prediction day here.

Of course, it's different when the pros do it right? I mean, who knows better than an NHL coach? Well, sometimes, like fans, they'd do better to keep their thoughts to themselves.

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Sunday October 3, 2010 - Ron Wilson

"Our power play, especially thefirst unit, is scary-dangerous right now," coach Ron Wilson said. "And they've been good against regular penalty killers.

"We have things to fix on the penalty kill, but in general it has been breakdowns in the back-end in coverage and not what our forwards have failed to do. The defence has to do some little things better."

How did that work out? The only people scared by the Leafs' special teams were the fans. The powerplay finished 22nd in the league at 16.0% and the penalty kill came in at a lean 77.4%.

September 14, 2007 - Paul Maurice

"We'll make the playoffs and compete for the Stanley Cup," Maurice said as the club's pre-season roster went through medicals at Ricoh Coliseum in advance of today's first on-ice sessions. Maurice was also excited about his roster for the start of his second year as Leafs' coach. The Leafs shored up question marks from the last two seasons with the additions of Jason Blake, Vesa Toskala and Mark Bell. "This is the most talented team I've ever coached," Maurice said.

Oh boy. Come May, Paul Maurice was leading the blue and white into the play...no, he was fired. Because he was terrible. Seriously, read that post.

December 17, 2010 - Tom Renney

"Nothing would surprise me with this group at all, nothing at all. It won't surprise me when we make the playoffs, it won't. The biggest surprise of all might be if we don't," Renney said to media on Friday. "Because I know how deep the care is, I know how willing they are to be coached, how proud they are, quite honestly, to be here doing this in Edmonton."

This quote does not get nearly the attention that it deserves. On this date in history, the Oilers were fifth last in the NHL and dead last in the Western Conference where they sat eight points out of the playoffs. After Renney's hilarious quote? The Oilers finished thirty-five points out of the playoffs and dead last in the NHL. Good Lord, what an awful prediction.

Which brings me to the local hockey team's coach's latest prediction:

October 4, 2011 - Ron Wilson

"We’re a better team now, so I don’t even think about that," Wilson said of the squad’s tendency to start seasons slow. "We’re a much better team than we’ve been the last three years. Before that, I have no idea. I wasn’t paying attention to the Leafs." The fan base didn’t have that luxury. Their memory is longer, their drought is bigger and that’s the main reason why there’s now more pressure to make the playoffs – something Wilson acknowledged Tuesday. "It seems I’ve always been under heat here," he said. "No matter what we do, there’s going to be pressure. I’m used to that now." 

This seems ominous...

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If you make enough predictions you are bound to get one right eventually. I think even Eklund (or maybe his dog, not sure which it was) got a rumour right once so anything is possible. Maybe this is Wilson’s year.

But seriously, I agree with Wilson that much of the PK problem is from the defense not the forwards. They don’t have a legit quality defensive defenseman (with proven results) on the roster despite the depth on defense.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Oct 6, 2011 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

That was definitely evident in the pre-season, when guys like Gardiner and Aulie were handling big PK minutes. Hopefully with a bit of a more stable defence they can be better down low. I know someone here (Birky?) hates the way the defence “fronts” forwards on the penalty kill, which basically leaves forwards wide open for rebounds.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Oct 6, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

that quote was from last season. are we seriously having the same problems that we were a year ago?

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 6, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably yes. They haven’t added a quality defensive defenseman since then. Franson actually has good defensive numbers, but he won’t likely play much on the PK. Aulie has potential but he is with the Marlies.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Oct 6, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t blame Maurice – how can you not have faith in Mats???

I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.

by daoust on Oct 6, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Leafs shored up question marks from the last two seasons with the additions of Jason BlakeTim Connolley, Vesa ToskalaJames Reimer and Mark BellDavid Steckel. “This is the most talented team I’ve ever coachedassembled,” MauriceBurke said.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 6, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

When you put it like that…

WORD to yo Momma

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Oct 6, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flagged for putting Reimer in the same sentence as the sieve

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by nhlcheapshot on Oct 6, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

VRN – don’t be a dink to Reimer. Not yet.

I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.

by daoust on Oct 6, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, at least wait until the 1st intermission tonight to do that…

by Tickle Me Aulie on Oct 6, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not trying to be a dink. Everyone has said that he remains a big question this season. I’m just pointing out the potential for an obvious parallel.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Oct 6, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

A coach should almost always predict success for his team

What’s he to say? “The players suck and I’m giving up on them.”

The problem isn’t coaches making predictions, the problem is people not recognizing them as cheerleaders for their own teams. Why don’t we ask a player’s agent if they think he’ll have a good season?

Although, Ron Wilson thinking he had a dangerous powerplay is still funny.

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by Back In Black on Oct 6, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Saying something like “I have faith in this team and I think we can do great things” is one thing. Directly saying “I think we’re going to make the playoffs and it’ll be a surprise if we don’t” is another.

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by BCapp on Oct 6, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, one is actually encouraging for the team, and one sounds like veiled doubt.

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Oct 6, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

What The Bag said. The former sounds distinctly less confident. The latter sets a concrete goal and expectation for the players to live up to.

“Kessel! Kessel! He’s our man! If he can’t do it, we’re not sure that anyone else could have!”

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Oct 6, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

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