NHL All Star Voting Is Open!
People who know me know that I've always loved the NHL All StaR game. It's a fun weekend where lOts of great hockey is played and we get to see awesome concerts (I'm hoping for Journey or maybe the Black Eyed Peas this year!).
One Considerable thing you all mighT not know about Me is that I love DAnY HEatley because I think he's the all starriest star that ever all starred. Dany Heatley is a Multiple 50 goal scorer and one time he drove his car so fast that his best friend disappeared just like Back to the Future IV: Doc Forgets Where He Parked the DeLorean (In Time).
So I hope you'll all join me in voting for Dany Heatley to play in this year's All Star Game, hosted by the lovely city of Ottawa and sponsored by four hundred unisex hair salons, he'd appreciate it and so would I.
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i know no one here can do anything about it, but whatever people
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You should try changing your name from “FuckGaryBettman03”.
by theninjagreg on Nov 14, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You’re not trying to troll Ottawa hard enough.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
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by Chemmy on Nov 14, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I demand that you trade your Kessel pick for someone else, like Grabovski. * sniffff * Phil’s already a fuggin All-Star.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I support part of this ballot.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Just voted 30 times for
Kessel, Lupul, Liles, and Phaneuf.
I’ll be adding another 30 this time including Heatley…haha
thanks
by Jack rides ducks on Nov 14, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Kessel, Heatley, Lupul, Chara, Phaneuf, Reimer
and 30 times a day?
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No JML love? Just kidding I voted Enstrom once…
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well Sens fans should see a successful Senator son the ice.
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I had a brain fart
And completely did not connect Chara with Ottawa. Don’t know why… My bad.
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Heatley’s eyes are looking super-creepy in that photo. They’re bloodshot and his left pupil is way bigger than his right. I think he may have had a stroke. Someone assess him for facial droop and grip strengths and get back to me.
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Seriously, you guys think this is funny? That the Sens currently have the makings of an entire All Star roster currently kicking around the league (with the obvious exception of a decent goalie) while the last legitimately eligible Leafs player to play in the league is waiting for his call to the HoF? Admittedly, 2 of my Leafs faves make it tonight. Go Killer! Eddie!
This is awesome.
That the Sens currently have the makings of an entire All Star roster currently kicking around the league That the Sens currently have the makings of an entire All Star roster currently kicking around the league
Last time I checked the guy leading the NHL in goals and points was from the Senators…oh wait.
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Guess stats don’t matter to make you a legitimate all star because hockey isn’t a goal scoring competition.
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He’s only ahead by 1 right now.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm happy for Kessel.
With all the unfair pressure placed o him because of a very questionable trade, he has performed very well this year. I really hope – no sarcasm – he is better treated this year at the AS draft, if they hold it.
Somehow I’d imagine that a team with “the makings of an entire All Star roster” would be doing better than 22nd in the league…
obviously it’s because they don’t have a goalie. It’s the only thing standing between them and their march to the Stanley Cup!
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That the Sens currently have the makings of an entire All Star roster currently kicking around the league
Hossa, Heatley, Chara……
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 14, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brian elliot!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
No...
We were seduced a few times by his hot streaks, they don’t last and he ends up Lalime-ing you to death.
The only potential all star you missed was Havlat.
The rest:
Mezaros= #3 Dman
Salo= #1 LTIR defenseman
Corvo= #3 Dman
Vermette=#2 C (#5 forward)
Campoli= #5 D-man
Kelly= #3/4 C (#8 forward)
Fisher= 2/3 C #5-6 forward
Cullen = #3 C
Wade Redden= Kept instead of Chara… BAHAHAHAHA
Emery= 1b goalie (ran out of town (bought out))
Elliot= Back up goalie
Real stud all star team right there…
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SkinnyFish,…
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The original premise for this cute attempt was to elect senators from “around the league” and that was what I was referencing. Havlat, Hossa, Heatley, Chara, Laich, Mezaros, Volchenkov, etc… but no goalies. But that’s Ok, you don’t have to have good reading comp skills to like hockey.
…while the last legitimately eligible Leafs player to play in the league is waiting for his call to the HoF?
Phil Kessel. If leading the league in goals and points doesn’t qualify you, I don’t know what does. But you’re probably right, because, you know, fuck accountability.
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You missed my point
In the limited effectiveness of short notes, I didn’t specify “from other teams”. Sorry. I did think it was implied. As in, if Sens fans didn’t have better things to do, they could look around the league to do the same thing back to the Leafs, only to find that any decent players that once had the Blue and White grace their shoulders have long since unlaced their skates.
See, it wouldnt be a good idea for Sens fans to try and reverse the role here. Everyone knows that there arent any former Leafs, who are current NHlers that are any good. All the good ones play for us still. Meanwhile, its hilariously well know that there truly is an all star line of former Ottawa players who were dumped for practically nothing in return and are playing great elsewhere, while your current club flounders.
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 14, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My favourite Sens memory is when they chose Redden over Chara
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Conversely,
Pogge > Rask probably wasn’t the best idea either.
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two proven players over two unproven prospects, slightly different
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Misjudging talent. I’d say it’s relevant.
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in the loosest sense, sure, why not
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Do tell.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
evaluating 2 prospects, is much more difficult than 2 proven NHL top 4 defenders, especially when those 2 prospects are goaltenders who are notoriously hard to predict.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
<3 <3 <3
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that’s one way to look at it. After JFJ’s tenure, the Leafs really haven’t had anyone of consequence to hold onto. How’d those (few remaining) picks work out for you? Brad Boyes, Tuuka Rask, Alex Steen, Carlo Colaiaccovo and Tlusty? Khadri?
How would Seguin, Hamilton, and Colborne look all coming in within a couple years of each other?
Without Kessel the leafs might have had what it takes to get that first overall
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
or Burke would have made another move to get another player and the Leafs could have finished 20th over all
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but DRAFT PICKS man!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously drafting is an exact science, in which the team with the highest draft picks year after year wins the Stanley Cup.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri is developing nicely, thanks for asking
you also say “after JFJ’s tenure” yet you include Rask, who was traded (and drafted) by JFJ, and Brad Boyes who was traded before JFJ
Steen and Colaiaccovo was a bad trade sure, but neither are super stars, Tlusty is whatever, but in the end helped the Leafs draft stuart Percy, so that has yet to be seen
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
All of those players except for Tlusty and potentially Kadri (unknown yet) have turned into good NHLers.
Rask has been one of the best goalies in the league thus far in his short career. Steen is probably a top 60 C (ie second line center), Boyes is a top 6 forward, and Coliacavo is a top 4 D-man…. Thats pretty damn good actually.
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Phil Kessel isn’t going to the Hockey Hall of Fame this season…
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 14, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
He might, he lives pretty nearby.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Nov 14, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
bazinga!
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 14, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Fair, I misinterpreted your comment. But you could see how someone could take it as implying that the Senators themselves are an All Star team.
Still, it’s funny how they didn’t keep any of those players…
Yeah, salary cap makes it tough. And before the cap, we had our own internal cap, called close to bankruptcy. But Toronto has never had to worry about bad ownership cough Ballard** cough** :)
Look, I’m a lifelong Leafs fan. I want them to be better. I just moved on when the Sens came to town. The only time I’m not wishing TO well is when the two are pitted against each other.
I’m kind of missing the point here, the Sens are better because there are more all-star players around the league no longer playing for them than the Leafs?
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 14, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing these Sens fans are saying makes sense
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t the only person confused
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 14, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
You are not lifelong Leafs fan. You clearly jumped ship to the Sens…
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Nope still a fan...
but with divided loyalties. Sorry, but I’m not letting you define me as a fan or not. I still follow Leafs developments and care about the outomes. But yes, in a ranking, they are #2 after the Sens.
Let’s say the NFL comes full time to TO in the form of a brand new franchise. Let’s say you have always been a fan of the Bills. Are you not going to be a fan of your new team? Are you not going to have an ongoing degree of attachment to your former team?
Then, let’s say yuor old team had a few years of time where their approach to the game was a disgrace and then they went to a new GM who blew chunks. Wouldn’t that cool you off for a bit? But now they have a good GM, working with a depleted cupboard and a frustrated fanbase. A rash move here and there to try and appease the rabble with a positive signing here and there.
Me? I’m intrigued. I’m following again more closely now than I have in a few years. i’m also interested in how it goes with the Leafs vs the Sens because of the rivalry and because of the different routes that led the two teams to where they are.
Ottawa’s so called brain trust has produced some stupid decisions. Muckler reportedly ignored every other hockey mind in the organization in favouring Redden over Chara. BM made some bone headed moves thinking he could tinker us to a cup. On the other hand, we had players opting for personal ambitionover team objectives left right and center, making it impossible to hold on to every bona fide star player we had. That happens. Then Heatley blows us up real good with his trade demand. BM hires crap coaches in succession and then pulls one out of the hat with the Paulrus.
You guys had Sundin, and couldn’t trade him to a cup contender for good returns. It’s all fascinating.
The Leafs could hire Matt fucking Millen as their GM. I’d be pissed, but nothing would cool me off, for any period of time.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
But you already have a team in town. What about the scenario I provided? If you lived in a city without an NFL team and a new franchise came to town, would you support it? Would you completely forgo your old allegiance?
I probably wouldn’t support it, but hard to say for sure. Personally I don’t really care or take issue with who you choose to cheer for. I guess my personal belief is that I’d stick with the team I’d chosen regardless of the situation (including a new team coming to town).
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, because they don’t. Many, many Ottawa fans are bandwagonners – definitely not all – but a really good chunk.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
So if you lived in Ottawa your whole life, you wouldn’t have “jumped” to the Sens and you would then resent yourself for outcheering the hometown fans?
I do live in Ottawa now, though only for the past 6 years. I’m nothing if not loyal to my team. I rode with the leafs through 28th place, I’ll ride to hell with them. I don’t care if they added another team to the Toronto area.
Sens fans aren’t bandwagonners for supporting the Sens when they came in. They’re bandwagonners for jumping ship at the first sign of trouble. And when things go well, bam, there are all the Sens jerseys and suddenly a ton of “experts” who watch “all” the games, but if you ask them about them, they’re quite vague.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, that’s a poor excuse. I was born and raised in Ottawa and have lived here for all but 4 years of my life. Leafs fan all my life as well, and even once the Sens came to town, there was no way that was going to change.
Same goes for an awful lot of Leafs fans in this city.
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You have to justify your fandom to Leafs Nation, otherwise it’s not valid.
He said that living in Ottawa for one’s whole life is a valid reason to switch teams. I happen to disagree. Is that valid enough for you?
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If it's not your reason, fine.
But the guy’s entitled to like whatever teams he likes for whatever reasons he likes.
If it’s a valid reason for him, it’s valid.
FWIW
I don’t think he has to justify himself to anyone and personally think anyone can cheer for who they want. I wasn’t raised in a city with no NHL team than had one come in so I really can’t sympathize. I was raised in the GTA as a Leafs fan… pretty open and shut case for my fandom.
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Probably. I don’t personally, but I see what you’re saying.
I guess I just find it odd that a team going through a period of shit would turn anyone towards another team. Highs and lows and all that.
I get that its a bit different with another team coming to town, but in the Sens case the Leafs were pretty solid when the Sens arrived on the scene. I could be wrong, but I didn’t get the sense that everyone flocked to Peter Sidorkiewicz and Laurie Boschman right off the bat. Seemed more like everyone waited for the Sens to become competitive. Again, I could be totally wrong about that view of history.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t deride you guys for anything. I also don’t have any problem with you choosing to cheer for the Sens as they’re your home town team. I can understand that. I just don’t really understand the idea of being a fan of tow rivals.
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Revisionist history/
“Ottawa’s so called brain trust has produced some stupid decisions. Muckler reportedly ignored every other hockey mind in the organization in favouring Redden over Chara. BM made some bone headed moves thinking he could tinker us to a cup.”
Sounds like revisionist history and the usual finger-pointing from Murray on CHara. If you dig a little deper word is that Chara a)wanted the captaincy or a share of it down the road or b)was upset about the Hossa sign and trade.
He was never going to re-sign here (yes, I am a Leafs fan in Ottawa and a proud supporter of Project Mayhem and anything that takes the piss out of the Senators org) and seliing Redden was easy since he’s Canadian, well-loved in the community, blah blah blah. It was a mistake for the Senators but oh well.
"According to the statistics, Bester outperformed his teammates in every league that he ever played in, and was easily the best goalie the Leafs had in the 1980s. Despite this, the Momesso goal was essentially the end of Bester's NHL career."
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by BesterThanYesterday on Nov 14, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
You would no longer be a fan of the Bills. One team. I am not saying I blame you for cheering for your home team, but its a little silly to say your a fan of direct divisional rivals.
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As I said above – It’s complicated. But it’s true nonetheless. You can’t help how you feel; it’s not a rational business decision.
I absolutely cheer for Ottawa over Toronto, but find myself pulling for TO to ice a decent team with legit hopes of a playoff run. What can I say? Head to head, though, no question: Ottawa. And if TO beat Ottawa to go on to the Cup, I would hate that.
It’s not rational, it’s not a business decision, it’s emotional.
I feel that way about the Blackhawks and Oilers (who aren’t in the same conference, let alone division, as my team, but we’ve beat that horse to death). I like their teams, and I want them to win when they’re not playing the Leafs.
Would I call myself a fan? No; I follow their developments (which, living in Edmonton, is easy to do with the Oilers; I did it with the Canucks when I lived in BC and I don’t even like them), and am happy when they do well, but I don’t follow them. Outside of the playoffs, I don’t watch many of their games, let alone all of them, and I don’t go out of my way to watch them, either. I’ll watch either team if they have a good matchup (e.g. Blackhawks vs. Canucks, Oilers vs. Flames), but I’m not about to give a shit when they’re playing the likes of Columbus or Phoenix. There’s only one team I’d sit through 60 minutes of Florida Panthers trap-tastic hockey for, and it’s the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Fandom is a whole different level. I get what you’re saying, and I understand, and I won’t rail on you, but you aren’t a Leaf fan any more than I’m a Blackhawks or Oilers fan. You’re a Sens fan, I’m a Leafs fan. That’s that.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
you are a Sens fan
Just embrace it bud.
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sorry was confused by the sentence beginning with “that the” being not a complete sentence. Before criticizing others reading comprhension maybe you should take a remedial grammar course on how to use the word that in a sentence.
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If you had written it correctly I would have agreed with you.
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Beginning the sentence with “that” is a rhetorical device perfectly acceptable as a way to set up an idea being posited.
Taht the Leafs have struggled with consistency this season, especially against the Sens, is a disappointemnt to their fans.
that the leafs are tied for 2nd in the east despite being inconsistent is a big plus for their fans
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
That the Google is a difficult tool to use for understanding grammar is an understatement. Just because an example isn’t in a list ona particular webpage isn’t a conclusive argument.
you use google to understand grammar? Maybe you should look up butthurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
That when followed by the verb to be as in “is”
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Oh, but that’s different. I used the sentences in tandem. The second one should be read with an ascending uptalk inflection as a carry on question from the first sentence.
Laich played 1 game for the senators…
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This might be a bit of hindsight… I thought acquiring Bondra was worth trading away a player who, at the time, didn’t seem to be all that highly touted. I, for one, didn’t see Laich turning into what he is today.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
You traded Havlat for crap, Hossa for Heatley (then had a nice friendly parting with Heatley), and let Chara walk so that you could keep Redden (good move there).
Besides those guys, the best you have out there are Volchenkov, Mezaros, Cullen (barely a Sen was just there for one playoff run), Vermette (traded for LeClaire…), and Fisher.
I would happily compare that to Poni, Kabby (the best guy on either team), Antropov, Steen, Stumpy (Steve Sullivan), Ian White
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Wow. Don’t know how I made that mistake. I was just talking about Stumpy’s son (Rangers’ prospect) too. Please ignore I hadn’t had my caffeine yet… (Yeah I slept in)
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No worries! To be fair, Sullivan was really small too.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
July 10, 2006: Traded to Chicago by Ottawa with Bryan Smolinski for Tom Preissing, Josh Hennessy, Michal Barinka and Chicago’s 2nd round choice (Patrick Wiercioch) in 2008 Entry Draft, July 10, 2006.
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I dunno if I’d trade all that for Smolinski alone.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Smolinski was a salary dump, and at the time all of Preissing, Hennessy, and Barinka seemed like pretty decent prospects. Wiercioch seems like a pretty decent prospect today.
There’s no doubt the Senators should have received more for Havlat, but I’d hardly define that return as ‘crap.’
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wiecioch is the bomb yo.
Some Senators fans/insiders are selling Wiercoch as an up and comer and all around great guy…but he barely played in their run to the Calder Cup didn’t he?
Preissing was OK for the Senators, he was a decent puck-mover but yeah that trade looks bleh now. At least Havlat isn’t kicking our Leafs with his skate blades anymore…
"According to the statistics, Bester outperformed his teammates in every league that he ever played in, and was easily the best goalie the Leafs had in the 1980s. Despite this, the Momesso goal was essentially the end of Bester's NHL career."
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by BesterThanYesterday on Nov 14, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wiercioch is a fine prospect / young player.
Marty Havlat is pretty darn good.
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I wasn’t really being serious about the Smolinski thing, but I dunno, still seems kinda like crap to me.
It happens.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Decent 2nd/3rd tier prospects for Martin Havlat? Sure sounds like crap
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I did my PaRt tO adJust thE votes for Canadian hero Dany HeaTley. I voted 30 tiMes for HeAtleY, KHabibulin, KEssel, Lupul and Most definitely for our captain Dion Phaneuf..
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Dan Snyder jokes.
Classy.
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by Blinky on Nov 14, 2011 1:22 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
1. “Classy” is a stupid insult
2. This is a blog not the Ritz
3. It’s a Dany Heatley joke. If you’ve ever made a joke about OJ Simpson or Osama bin Laden you have no right to outrage.
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1. I’ll try to insult you in a way you prefer next time, thanks for pointing that out.
2. I’m not saying it is. But if we’re going to scream homophobe and and misogynist every time someone makes a joke, a little bit of parity would be nice. Which leads into the next point:
3. Nice tu quoque. Me being or not being a hypocrite in no way affects the validity of my position.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
Making fun of Dany Heatley for killing a guy is a little bit different than discriminating against large groups of people for the way they were born.
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I’m not sure a person’s death is very funny.
by scrambles the death dealer on Nov 14, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
That’s true, and if the jokes was “DURRRR IN YOUR FACE DAN SNYDER” it wouldn’t be funny. Since Dany Heatley is still alive I’m not sure where the outrage comes from.
Are Ray Lewis jokes not ok? What about OJ Simpson or any number of people who killed someone and didn’t go to jail for it?
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Sorry, let me clarify: I’m not sure jokes about Dany Heatley accidentally killing a friend are very funny. Yes, everyone dies, but not everyone’s death is as tragic as Dan Snyder’s.
by scrambles the death dealer on Nov 14, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
The joke isn’t about Dan Snyder but about Heatley killing him.
Q. What did OJ Simpson ask Judge Ito for?
A. His glove back.
Is that making fun of Nicole Brown?
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Just like making a joke based on reigning stereotypes is a little bit different than holding the sociopolitical beliefs of a neo-Nazi. But fuck that, let’s just pick and choose shit that’s okay to say.
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We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
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I’m saying you show about as much logical parity as a preteen. But whatever, man. Very good post five stars would read again.
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We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
Fucking hilarious observation. You should consider stand up.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
Why are there razor slots on airplanes? Are people actually shaving up here?
/Note: Joke no longer valid after 9/11 because people aren’t allowed razors on planes.
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Why does the original Snyder joke offend you so much?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I grew up in Atlanta. The accident was basically down the road from where I was living at the time. Our travel teams still wear commemorative stickers on the back of every players’ helmet to this day. I guess it just hit kinda close to home, because it was a big deal down here.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
We wrote the bible on anvils and guns.
Dan Snyder’s memory is well-served by those who remind us that Heatley is a douche.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
In all seirousness
The two of them were really close right? I seem to recall them being close friends…
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They were close friends. My wife’s family are friends with Mike Fisher’s family and my mother-in-law talked about Heatley struggling to deal with the accident long after it happened when he was in Ottawa. The man is not a monster, he and his friend were careless and his friend ended up dead, that must be terrible to live with.
Also, Snyder’s family very vocally supported Heatley after the accident. I’m not going to pretend my self righteous indignation over-rides their understanding, forgiveness and support for their son’s friend.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 14, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not pretending to be self-righteous or pretentious at all. I think Dany Heatley is a perfectly nice guy and an exceptionally talented hockey player. I just don’t think it’s right to make a joke about a guy at the expense of someone’s tragic death. But maybe that’s just me.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
I’m not taking issue with anything you’ve said. I also think it’s wrong to make jokes about something like this because of a hockey rivalry.
by Mirinov's Nose on Nov 14, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
That same nice guy went into debt spending the goodwill handed to him by the Snyder family and the Thrashers management. Then he said fuck you again to the Sens organization, who also offered him help.
Good at hockey? No doubt. He’s a fuggin’ All-Star!
Nice guy? Puh-lease.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Tend to agree with this. Snyders death was very tragic. I have a family friend who killed his best friend driving a boat while drunk it’s incredibly tragic and that will haunt him for the rest of his life.
The only reason I don’t have a problem with Heatley jokes is because if he couldn’t gain a little perspective from that tragic accident (which he clearly didn’t see STP’s post above) then he deserves to be fucking ridiculed. I would expect every time he was about to complain about his situation (ie Ottawa or Edmonton) he would put his nose down and get to work.
by Dan Thompson on Nov 14, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is the problem, Heatley is a regular human being who made a tragic mistake. It’s one thing to ridicule Heatley for whining his way out of Ottawa, but mentioning Dan Snyder seems quite heartless.
by scrambles the death dealer on Nov 14, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Kids with nice cars drive fast?!?!?! WHAT DOUCHES!
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The thing about Heatley is people don’t really know what na asshole he is.
Literally a week before his accident Don Waddell talked to him and Kovalchuk that the Atlanta PD had informed them that they were racing their cars around town and asked them to be careful.
Then, after ATL had helped him through his recovery he asked for a full release so that he could get a fresh start. Then of course he forced them into a shitty trade.
So yeah, fuck that guy.
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Yeah, post was pretty good until the Snyder part; could do without that.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
agree as well
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
boo hoo
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by Chemmy on Nov 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never change.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 14, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
And how was Belak, et. al. any different than Snyder? When he died, it was a pretty respectful atmosphere over here (esp. since he was a former Leaf and a nice guy from what it seems).
What gives?
I realize that part of the joke’s skewing the ASG voting, but c’mon.
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by LurkinPegger on Nov 14, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Because we’re not making fun of Dan Snyder (the victim) to start.
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Urk. My apologies, then.
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by LurkinPegger on Nov 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I’m off base in saying that it’d be the same thing as making fun of the guy driving the car with Princess Diana in it… it’s not making fun of her, it’s pointing out that the guy driving the car is a giant douche for killing a person due to gross negligence and or recklessness
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 14, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
If Heatley committed suicide it would be a different story
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Until he demanded that Satan trade him to the other team.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Chemmy you don’t take any kind of criticism well at all. No one is boo-hooing the comment said “could do without it”. That’s the mildest form of criticism ever and you feel the need to take it to 3rd grade. Petty.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks man, any more pro tips?
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no I’ll leave it at that.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I was hoping for more advice.
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I wasn’t handing out advice to begin with. I was making comments.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for your input, I’ll make sure to write some posts you’ll really like next time.
Be my friend, I need your approval.
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I wasn’t asking for approval either. Just making comments.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Problem is, that guy is never wrong, so you are wasting your time making comments he doesn’t agree with.
by Leaf in Habland on Nov 14, 2011 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Owen Nolan wasn’t a third grader
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He knew his times-tables so well, they skipped him straight to the 4th
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t talking to Owen Nolan.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
rec’d for Owen Nolan.
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Nov 15, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I love #ProjectMayhem
But I love even more how the narrative behind it has changed in time.
Initially, it was an attempt to get the most hated former Senators into the All-Star lineup. Apparently, we really don’t like Chris Campoli. We can’t stand Martin Havlat. Zdeno Chara is persona non grata in Ottawa. Apparently.
We don’t want every former Senator in the ASG, just the most hated former Senators. Focus your attack people.
Then it came about that the Senators don’t really hate many former players, so now it’s an ingenious satire of the mismanagement of assets in the Ottawa Senators organization.
“The Senators are a team that proclaimed themselves a dynasty only to immediately shoot themselves in the foot the first time cap problems reared their ugly head. Bryan Murray [sic] had to choose between Zdeno Chara and Wade Redden and picked the guy that’s playing in the AHL now, not the perennial Norris candidate,”
I don’t think I need to go into too many details about how rich it is hearing a Leafs fan give Sens fans the horns for asset mismanagement.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I don't know about Silver Seven
But I know that PPP is very different than typical Leafs fans. Just because Silver Seven doesn’t dislike former Sens doesn’t mean the typical idiotic fan doesn’t too. I feel comfortable saying they will not be happy to see Heatley recognized as an All Star in their barn.
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I'm quite certain folks won't be happy seeing him
That doesn’t mean they won’t be happy booing him. Heatley has returned to Scotiabank Place twice since being dealt, and both times fans have flocked to the game for the opportunity to boo him. We won’t enjoy seeing him at the game, but we won’t mind the opportunity to boo him mercilessly.
(Although I won’t be booing him mercilessly, because I’m pretty sure I’ll be sitting in the press box.)
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I guess going to games to boo heatley really is all Sens fans have to look forward to these days, since Leafs fans and Habs fans make up ~50% of the fans in their matchups with the Sens. Glad you can actually get a full crowd to make fun of a really good former player you traded away for nothing.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
You mean like how every Leaf fan pays extremely close attention to when Daniel Alfredsson is near the puck so they can boo him?
This campaign looks good on you. Must be tough knowing that Sens fans would actually like to see their ex-players return.
Hopefully this works out better than your campaign to make Nickelback the Senators’ goal song…
by The Dutch Treat on Nov 14, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Actually, I’m quite happy that we don’t want any of our recently traded players back (maybe beach, but we got great assets back) – it speaks to the quality of our trades, which range from pretty good to ripping-calgary-off-hardcore.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Raycroft for Tuuka Rask.
John Kordic for Geoff Courtnall.
Shall I go on? As Peter pointed out, hearing Leaf fans mock the Sens for poor asset management is rich. Keep living in your blue-and-white bubble.
by The Dutch Treat on Nov 14, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
They let me out of my bubble last week. Fresh air again!
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
way to bring up trades from 25 years ago. If we’re going to do that I got 4 words for you
alexandre daigle alexei yashin
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I WANT GEOFF COURTNALL BACK. THE SAME GEOFF COURTNALL WHOSE BROTHER RUSS WAS TRADED FOR JOHN KORDIC AND WHO NEVER PLAYED FOR THE LEAFS.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff Courtnall was traded by the Leafs for Dan Kordic. It was an awesome era in the 45th dimension.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man I missed that one. I was still in my blue-and-white bubble back then.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the parallel universe where the Leafs were owned by Harold Ballard’s good twin Hector, whose benevolent management led the Leafs to Stanley Cups under the 80s dream teams of Vaive, Sittler, McDonald, et al that dominated the Oilers in the Finals, but not after Wendel Clark threw down thundering hits on Gretzky, then made Dave Semenko give him his lunch money? That one?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but just like you we are sadly justifying our team’s fuck ups. Gotcha. Ease up on the Dutch treat because it’s melting your brain cells
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Whatever happened to kidkawartha?
He was your resident clog dancer, wasn’t he?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
He’s doing Right Wing Vigilance duty on Twitter
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So….2 trades in the last 25 years? That’s ALL you’ve got?
Geez man, Toronto’s ripped off Calgary in that many trades in less time.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One of those two trades doesn’t even exist.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 15, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
This campaign looks good on you. Must be tough knowing that Sens fans would actually like to see their ex-players return.
Because having those players would be better than watching the sorry excuse for a hockey team currently being iced? Your team gave away these players for peanuts whereas the Leafs former players were the peanuts in their trades.
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That “sorry excuse” sure made your team look stupid Saturday night huh?
by The Dutch Treat on Nov 14, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
For a fanbase that’s on board with this idea an awful lot of you seem upset.
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Cool, you’re 2-1. Far as I remember, there are six matchups this year. We’ll talk after the sixth one.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Makes me happy to have another example of senators fans being dumb as rocks to be honest
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, sure, Sens fans want to see Heatley back. That explains why I see multiple “Heatley Sucks” jerseys every time I go to a Sens game at Scotiabank.
Yet another Leaf fan in Ottawa.
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I don't know how to be any clearer:
I am an Sens fan and I would love to watch the boos rain down on Heatley if he’s voted to the ASG. Honestly, if he’s named to the team, and if the crowd boos the hell out of him, nothing short of Alfie in the game getting a huge cheer could make me happier.
I’d even vote for him to make it happen. My own little way of saying, “Hey, come over here for a minute so we can show you just what we think of you.”
I was just trying to suggest that Silver Seven’s posters may not be representative of the fan base as a whole.
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This is almost certainly true.
It takes a certain kind of fan to want to register for a website and discuss advanced stats or prospects with strangers.
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See thats my point
Just because you guys wouldn’t be upset to see them there, I am not sure that reflects the general Sens fan in Ottawa…
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Of course everyone would hate to see Heatley make it. Even S7S folks.
I’m not worried, though. Eric Staal finished, what? 11th among forwards?
No way Heatley finishes top-3.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure it doesn’t though? Until there’s proof otherwise, I am going to operate under the belief that Sens bloggers and commenters on the internet better reflect the opinions of Senators fans at large than commenters on PPP do.
I would take it a step further and postulate that due to the newness of the franchise, and the oft-cited fact that older Ottawa residents tend to support the Leafs and Habs at a higher rate than younger Ottawans, that the opinions expressed on Silver Seven more closely reflect the opinions of Sens fans at large than most other teams’ fansites.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The hate is intense! Seriously, when Heatley comes back to town the Sens fans just forget about everything and boo him. Senators? Who cares. Other team? Who cares. It’s all about hating Heatley in those games…lol.
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Let’s see:
Heatley – screwed the team over by making his trade demands public, the possibility of playing for the team impossible, and vetoing any of the tepid but better deals the team could come up with, thereby depriving the team of equitable assets at the time. (That his skills have declined and Mach 9 has healed has made the trade acceptable in the long run)
Aflie – made a light hearted gesture mimicking Sundin’s frustrated throwing of his broken stick. I know it can’t be a point of principle on the hit to Tucker, because that kind of play was an everyday feature of the Leafs in that time and much celebratd by their fans.
So who has the biggest psych problem with visiting players?
Leafs fans often celebrate dirty hits from behind that lead to separated shoulders. Often.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Domi’s unprovoked attack on Arvedsson, Tucker going after Neil while he was sitting on the bench, Tucker taking out Peca’s knee, Domi taking Neidermayer’s head off with an elbow, blah, blah, blah. We all have plalys our teams have made that we regret, but the Leafs and their fans celebrated this kind of thing in this particular period of time that made it very difficutl to be too sympathetic.
You just said the magic words - Chris Neil
Feeling the sympathy pour through my veins, and out my anus.
Oh wait.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 14, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
you mean Tuckers hip check on Peca that was totally legal but had a poor result?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Any Leafs fan that celebrated Domi’s elbow is clearly an idiot. It cost us the series and a shot at the cup that yr.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was at that game. It turned the series around.
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“That play, despite no punishment for Tucker, was still included in a video of “unacceptable plays” that the NHL sent to all its teams." Wiki entry
did you google that?
you know what else is unacceptable? pretty much every game before 1990
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
who exactly celebrated Domi’s elbow to Niedermayer? I want names.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, Domi’s one punch knockthefuckoutof Ulf Samuelsson might be his most glorious moment as a Leafs.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 14, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah the whole hockey universe celebrated that one.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh get the fuck out of here
No one celebrates Domi’s elbow. The blame him for losing the series
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yup, no Sens player has ever made a dirty hit. Ever.
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Not my point. Alfie’s hit on Tucker is still not a proud memory for me. Neither was his slapshot at Neidermayer. Neil’s questionable headshot on Drury is another. My point is, we don’t have a culture of revellry in even the bad stuff our guys do. My impression of Leafs fans at the time was that they did celebrate their image and I don’t recall much lamenting of the hit, other than the fact that it hurt playoff chances (see above comments for examples)
Um, I was AT that Domi/Niedermayer game. In person. You could’ve heard a pin drop in there when it happened.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
pffft
Alfie gets booed for hitting Tucker from behind and no matter how many times you guys pretend otherwise that won’t change
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Honestly...
…I love the idea of Heatley getting booed at an ASG. I’d love it if he was traded to the Leafs so people could boo him three times a year in our rink.
I don’t think you’re grasping the mentality that many Sens fans have about this.
If you want to contort yourselves into supporting my idea then by all means do it. It’s not some masterstroke that will see us go “oh well if they don’t care why bother”.
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And your insistence that we are contorting ourselves...
…despite the fact that our stance has been pretty consistent from the start will not stop us from totally supporting your efforts to make Ottawa’s ASG the greatest ever!!!
What an olive branch you’ve extended. Thanks again, Chemmy. :)
I’m sure it’ll be a great weekend. Think the car dealerships next door will have a sale during that weekend or what?
Maybe there’ll be a pumpkin chucking competition.
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Where will the league hold its gala? If they get on the stick the tim hortons in kanata should be available.
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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 15, 2011 6:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
A lot you know. They only named it that because they were founded by a cow.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 15, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure how anything has changed here. I’ve been focused on Dany Heatley singularly since day one, from the first link you used as evidence:
Our fearless #projectmayhem leader, Tyler Durden @felixpotvin reminds: "We need to focus our whole effort on Dany Heatley to the starting lineup. Zdeno Chara will be there on merit. #ProjectMayhem"
But sure, piss and moan about how we’ve “changed the narrative”, nobody cares anyways.
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In addressing this…
Along with your comment is an insinuation that Zdeno Chara is also part of the campaign, simply not a part which needs as much focus as the other. So there’s that.
You also tweeted, according to the source we’ve both been referencing:
“Vote the line-up of Dany Heatley, Marion Hossa, Martin Havlat, Zdeno Chara, Chris Campoli and Ray Emery into this year’s All-Star Game…in Ottawa.”
Which just heads back to my original point, where you seemed to think Sens fans have a dislike for all former players, when that’s not the case at all. Now that you’ve been made aware of that fact, your reasons for supporting the campaign appear to have changed.
But really, it doesn’t matter. I was just pointing out something I found funny. I didn’t realize it came off as pissing and moaning.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t care if you dislike Zdeno Chara and Martin Havlat or not, it would be funny to me to see a bunch of ex-Sens who left town for pretty much nothing starring in the All Star Game.
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At least if Beauchemin got in we could say, hey, he’s good but we got two good players out of that deal.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Tell me, what did you get again for Sundin?
Players move on. Chara made a choice and it worked out very well for him. In a UFA scheme, it’s going to happen. Sundin chose to play out his contract with TO rather than pulling a Bourque. Too bad for you, too bad for us. It happens.
and we got 13 amazing seasons out of him. So it was a fair deal.
by Goosemonster on Nov 14, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
My point, which you apparently missed, is that UFAs get to make choices if you don’t sign them in time. All teams, over time, will have similar examples of great players they let go for nothing.
Again, I htink you’re missing the point. Teams lose good players. Developing an evil plot to bring them back so their old team can feel badly, like it could only be done to that one team, is silly. That I can come up with examples of your team losing a player when it was beyond their control to do anything about it sort of reinforces my point.
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CUT DOWN IN THEIR PRIME
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Couldn’t afford Havlat at the time. See above comments re flirting with bankruptcy. Doesn’t mean we have a hate on for him.
Chara – huge regrets there. Some Sens fans seem to boo him, but I can’t pretend to understand everything and that makes no sense to me unless you blame him for the team aking the wrong choice.
that's the best part!
You guys bitched and moaned about small market teams and their terrible plight and now the success of your boohooing is the direct cause of your team’s downfall
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well, no. We are pleased to be backed by a fairly wealthy, engaged fellow who meddles, but not in Ballard’s league. He has provided the financial wherewithal to allow us to compete. Nobody in Ottawa is pitching and moaning about the cap anymore than anyone else.
Heatley screwed us hard. Muckler preferred Redden over Chara, over BM’s pleading and begging. BM made a couple of bad rental signings, a few bad pro scouting moves , but has drafted really well. We are where we are because of all that, not the Cap.
Don’t forget that just about every Sens fan hated Chara at the time for his bad playoff run and applauded the decision to keep Redden. Lots of people seem to forget that part nowadays. ;)
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And considering the complete lack or originality or imagination on the part of anyone related to the senators I am sure that when the All-Star game is in Toronto you guys will just copy this idea.
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hey now!
Chris Neil’s brothers were very creative bookkeeper’s, and Robin Lehner’s Dad lacked not for imagination. You leave their families out of this!
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
This may not be the site you’re looking for.
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I’m not troling, if that’s what you mean. I poke fun, but not in a mean spirited way. See above posts: I genuinely care about the Leafs.
I genuinely don’t care in any what what you do or don’t care about.
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You obviously don’t know Chemmy
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 14, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Except for Oakland. There’s no loving that place.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 15, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
He left as a UFA… The only guy on that list who left as a UFA was Chara because you chose Redden over him…
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
hahaahhhahhahhahhahahhahahhahhhahhhhahahahahahhahhhhhhahhahahahahhhaahh
No.
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Well I have never lived close enough to any AHL teams, but I would go to the Bulldogs games even if I hated the Habs.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
We have an AHL team in Toronto. I’d only go if I had free tickets.
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We traded 13 amazing seasons of pretty damn good hockey from Sundin to the Vancouver Canucks for 0.5 seasons of average to sub-par hockey from Sundin.
I can live with it.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad that what's funny to you...
…and what’s enjoyable to Silver Seven Sens have found this happy coincidence. I’m sure I speak for a good number of Ottawa fans when I wish you much luck making our ASG that much better!
Go Chemmy!!!
We can’t be held responsible if you guys have such a short memory that you’ve forgotten the manner in which those players’ departure went. It should irk you but if you have the memory of a goldfish then what can we do about it?
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
We just have to keep reminding them every 5secs…..until they die during a pilgrimage to Kanata in god only knows -degree weather.
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like that Sens fans are pretending they want to see guys they ran out of town and booed upon their return.
Also, pretty rich going with “well your team made mistakes so you aren’t allowed to make jokes” defence
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Who was run out of town? The only player on the oft-mentioned list who could be considered as having been run out of town is Ray Emery, and I think he was run out of town more by the media than by the fans. I can’t think of a time fans booed any player who’s left other than Yashin and Heatley.
To your second point, I didn’t say you couldn’t make jokes. And what, exactly, was it a defence of? It was just a comment on the fact that both teams have more than their fair share of recent poor personnel decisions under their respective belts.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t they still boo Zdeno Chara? Although if you were creative you’d say they’re not booing Chara but the Sens management for choosing Redden instead…somehow I doubt that’s actually true though.
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Ahhhh, yes, it turns out Chara was booed in Ottawa. I have no idea why (and neither do Ottawa media nor Chara himself).
I’m not sure if he’s still booed in Ottawa.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
If your main complaint it “pretty rich of Leafs fans to make jokes about another team’s mismanagement” then yeah, you’re saying we shouldn’t dump on other teams’ mistakes.
Ever think that that history basically makes us experts on bad moves? Eh smart guy>
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and booed upon their return.
Hmmm…
Fans responded meekly to Havlat’s return, offering mild applause mixed with a few boos when his name was called in the opening lineups.
While Heatley – who scored a meaningless late goal in that game – was booed by the fans in Atlanta, Hossa received a warm reception at Scotiabank Place.
Chara, I have to give you. And Heatley too, but that’s a slightly different case.
I looked hard for something one way or the other on Emery’s first game back but couldn’t find a game story that mentioned the crowd at all. If anyone wants to try, the game date was November 12, 2009. After what he went through trying to find his game again, I can’t imagine there was anything other than applause that night, but I can’t say for sure.
Anyone you guys are trying to vote in that I’m missing here? Campoli? I haven’t checked but something tells me his first game back wasn’t much noticed by fans one way or the other.
I don’t think Campoli has been back yet… I imagine there were some tougher feelings for Volchenkov and Meszaros.
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Devils D Anton Volchenkov was given a warm reception when clips of some of his biggest hits with Ottawa were played on the video board during the first period. The former Senators defenseman waved to the crowd of 16,471.
Having a lot of trouble finding a game story on Meszaros’ return, but it wasn’t particularly bitter from what I remember.
Just confirms what I said about fans not being too bright. You develop the guy and he dumps you for dough? Hooray!
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty sure this confirms that you’re not being too bright. I had nothing to do with developing Anton Volchenkov as an NHL player, except in enjoying watching that development—which is what he was cheered for, the entertainment he offered while in Ottawa. It wasn’t a personal slight against me when he left Ottawa after the Senators wouldn’t match an offer he was given elsewhere.
Should I take it personally when every player accepts a better offer somewhere else?
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 15, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
So you rip Ottawa fans for booing a bunch of players who left...
…and then you rip Ottawa fans when you’re proven wrong and shown that, oh, wait, they didn’t boo many of the players who left. You’re making so much sense here.
where has he been proven wrong?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Am I misunderstanding?
I like that Sens fans are pretending they want to see guys they ran out of town and booed upon their return.
Unless he’s specifically referring to Heatley and Chara ONLY, I don’t see how that’s right.
ok, so I get it now, the 2 or 3 guys here represent all sens fans
nice to met you ambassador
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how I implied that at all.
PPP has so far been unable or unwilling to clarify his comments, so I’ll wait on that.
He seems to want to criticize Sens fans no matter what they do. So, I’ll just put it up for discussion: Should fans boo their team’s former players when they return, like Ottawa fans booed Heatley and Chara, or should they welcome them back warmly, as with Volchenkov and Hossa?
Which is the one, true way for hockey fans to be, guys?
He seems to want to criticize Sens fans no matter what they do. So, I’ll just put it up for discussion: Should fans boo their team’s former players when they return,
Here lemme help you out.
You mercilessly boo guys that have screwed your team over like Heater. If you have a personal vendetta against say Chara you boo him too, but that should be something other than management letting him go.
Let me give you an example. I heckled Kovalchuk every time he touched the puck at a Dallas/NJ game. Why? Because I have a personal vendetta against him for fucking me in my fantasy hockey pool. That cuts deep.
I think the Sens have done an OK job choosing who they boo, but if they want lessons please observe Toronto fans. Their berating of Wince, Alfy and even Bosh is legendary. Gionta will be added to that list in due time.
If you want a shitty example observe Calgary when they boo Dion every time he touches the puck. He gave them a number of good years and they brought in some jackass named Jay Bou Bou and deemed Dion expendable.
Lastly, if your response to Heater being at an allstar game in Ottawa isn’t laughter you have no sense of humour (unless you’re a die hard and then you should be fucking angry that’s acceptable too).
by Dan Thompson on Nov 15, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
And BTW
There was a discussion elsewhere in this thread about whether S7S people represent most Ottawa fans or not. Interesting stuff – maybe you missed that!
I maintain that they represent Ottawa fans better than PPP commenters, but evidently you disagree.
not saying I disagree at all, but you clearly missed the boat on what this thing was all about, dumping on a rival and its fan base because it is sports and people take it way to serious
congrats, you have been successfully trolled
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny.
I sorta feel like PPP’s trolling on this file pretty much failed. Your guy was the one quoted with wrong facts on Puck Daddy, and you guys are the ones trying to run a “trolling” campaign that is beloved by many members of the rival team’s fanbase.
But, feel free to construct your own narrative all you like.
I was quoted with wrong facts?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
oops, misread that
you are here defending your team over us clearly just being goofs and trying to insight a reaction
we have a reaction, trolling successful, it is that simple
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I agree….
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Back to your original point about us changing our message, feel like addressing that or were you on your way out?
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How is this a continuation of my original point? It’s a separate comment-chain, is it not?
Either way, manage your community as you’d like. I just found the similarities between your arrogance and Garrioch’s quite funny.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not arrogance at all. I don’t write on PPP for a paycheck or because I have some screaming drive to be a hockey reporter, I write because I like to.
If people don’t like that I’m not going to change.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 14, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
OVER THE LINE
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:47 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Philips is a current sen, so no
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 14, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
But he scored the Cup winning goal.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re looking for former sens d-men that we sort of resent in soe way, Volchenkov and Mezaros are more likely candidates, but even they are a reach.
Well, really; Campoli? We got a draft pick for him. We gave up too much for him in the first place, but why woudl fans care if he came back?
Probably because you traded a first rounder for him but nope, you guys love all of the senators’ trades.
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by PPP on Nov 14, 2011 8:48 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That was for Hillary Duff, and you know it.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never… admitted to a… mistake… What would I have made a mistake about?
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 14, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, Campoli fucking sucks and yes, I’m still bitter about him handing the series-winning goal to Alex fucking Burrows last year.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Now adjusted for metric
Dany Heatley always looks like he’s on a half gram pound of MDMA
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by not norm ullman on Nov 14, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
we need charts
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
WHOA DON’T INSULT DANY HEATLEY’S EYE INJURY. COMMENT WAS PRETTY GOOD ASIDE FROM THAT.
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by Chemmy on Nov 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Way to show up five hours late to let me know.
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The first rule of fight club is don’t make jokes about dead people if you want to avoid upsetting people. The second rule of fight club is if someone makes a joke about dead people and you’re feeling sad about it, get over it and just make fun of the Sens.
Let the Wookie win.
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by Kenjamin on Nov 14, 2011 7:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Who the hell do you root for in a Habs and Sabres game? Meteor is the obvious solution but God would never destroy the earth before the Leafs win the cup. We have his prophet James
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You root for someone to hammer Gionta and you root hard.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
No no, I want a Leaf to do it. What the hell are we paying Orr for anyway.
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Same thing we’re paying Tucker for.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Root for somebody to hurt Carey Price. Then only Boston will have a goaltender in the division and the Leafs probably won’t finish ahead of them anyways.
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by Chemmy on Nov 14, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess we could root for Anderson to get hurt too just in case.
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Does Anderson count as a goalie?
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Anderson may actually be helping our cause
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He was good last year. I guess he might keep the Sens from drafting Yakupov.
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Enroth is pretty good.
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I guess….If you consider a 1.75GAA and a .944 SA% good…….Why does every team have a good backup except us.
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I’ve been high on Enroth for 2-ish years. Always thought it was crazy that they were playing Lalime over him.
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Unfortunately I think alot of that has to do with size
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Him and Bernier are tiny. I think they may be the only goalies left under 6 feet (Turco and Osgoode I think were the shortest last year).
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My mistake
Enroth is 5’10 and the only goalie under 5’11’ in the league!!
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I think that is why he had such a hard time breaking into the league
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That could have a lot to do with it. Never thought about it to be honest. What did catch my attention is that I haven’t heard anyone discussing it as a drawback on Bernier.
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Enroth=5’10"
Backstrom, Bernier, Halak, Theodore, and a 3rd stringer (Curtis Sanford)=5’11"
They’re the only goalies under 6 feet in the entire league.
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Ben Bishop grew up the white way.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit he’s HUGE
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man i used to love seeing that guy get lit up when he played for maine!
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by sarahconnors on Nov 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not what she was supposed to say.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
tim thomas is 5’11 too…
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by sarahconnors on Nov 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
STRANGER DANGER
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Who’s ever behind in the standings. We want mediocrity here.
In the perfect world, Leafs make the playoffs and the rest of the division finishes 9, 10, 11, 12.
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Looking at the standings the East is real tight right now. The Leafs have played more games which puts them in 3rd but if the Leafs lose tomorrow, this can start going downhill real fast.
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Yeah, like Sonny Bono, chasing down an errant pass from a Kennedy cousin.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
That joke was funny until the part about Sonny Bono. He died man. You can make fun of the dead. Poor form.
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I thought the joke went off the rails when I casted Bono as the receiver and the Kennedy kid as the QB. As soon as I hit submit, I regretted my poor choice.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Bono was a pretty lousy route runner. Decent hands, but never in the right place when he needed to be.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 14, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
He didn’t have the height necessary to reach those passes that Cher could get up for.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
If the Leafs go 1-2 over their next 3, they’re no longer on a playoff pace points wise.
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Wouldn’t that still be 94 points? What are you targetting as playoff pace?
An Ottawa Senators supporter in Toronto, Ontario. I am cool like that.
Rangers had 93 for 8th, Buffalo 96 for 7th. The bubble shifts by 2 to 3 points every year. I’d say 95+
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I, too, am outraged by the Dan Snyder joke.
In fact, I’m paging Aaron Boogaard right now, so he can bring me some of my stash of Valium to calm my nerves.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions
You’re being ridiculous. In fact, were you a woman, I’d have Mike Komisarek slap some sense into you.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 14, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
LOL. I cannot top that, so all I got for you is Heatley-eyes
o_O
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
I see you’ve played Corney-Pupilly before. And thanks a lot for putting The Guess Who into my head for the remains of the day.
“Get to the never gonna see another one like I had with you part”
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 15, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
You can’t say that simply because he once wore a steak to bring down the swelling of his Heatley eyes.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Man
Fergus is going to YELL at you for that one.
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now that all the girls were scared away Skinny don’t give a fuck.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
*Offer not valid for girls Skinny is sleeping with (or may not be for a while, after jokes like that).
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 14, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m baffled at the popularity of the Simpsons, South Park, Chapelle Show, etc etc etc, when so many people are apparently are so easily offended.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
Because everyone loves getting offended about something, regardless of whether it applies to them or not.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
I don’t think people watch those shows to be offended. I think they like to laugh.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
I wish they would make words like that real. I bet it’s fun to say says it out loud yup.
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Per Matt Parker and Trey Stone
Either everything is OK to make fun of, or nothing is.
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OT But a goodie
Hey I have been off of here for almost a couple of weeks.. Just wanted to say Congrads To the former Maple Leafs Belfour, Gilmour, and Nieuwendyk all for getting in the HHOF and of course Congrads to my favorite D Man as a Child in the 1980’s Mark Howe as well for getting in the HHOF !!!
Way to go Men !!
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So much offendedness
Glenn Healy = Human sewage.
Scrivens on a prayer...
by Future_considerations on Nov 14, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions
I was offended before it was cool.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
Offended by what ?
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And so many people are wrong on here. We should go ahead and correct all of them.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
What is the Dilly Yo
With Heatley’s Cornea of his eyes ? One is small and one is huge ???
I will vote for all FLYERS of course…
Pronger Jagr Giroux Briere Bryzgalov & Timonen
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Commmmmmon forget Briere he doesn’t deserve a spot (I have him in my pool so I feel like I’m entitled to say this). Vote for heater
by Dan Thompson on Nov 14, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Heater can go drop a Steaming heater for all I care…
I am voting for Briere !
Permanently dilated his eye ! wow ! He must have had blurryness and nausea his first few days after that you would think right ?
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He got high sticked in Switzerland during the lockout.
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Is anyone watching the buffalo game?
Eric Cole just clipped Enroth pretty good
Did Enroth do a Hasek like Miller did with Lucic the other night
(Pathetic lil Wuss!)
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Are you joking? The guy is out with a concussion because Lucic play on him was DIRTY
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Well I am sorry that he got a Concussion but ..
It was a Clean Hit and Miller acted like a Hasek and waaaayyyyy oversold it.
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Rob, it’s against the rules to hammer a goalie whether they’re outside the crease or not. So no, it wasn’t a clean hit.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 14, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually.. No.. If a goalie leaves the Blue Paint or the Goalie Crease .. any player can check him.. This is why Lucic was not suspended.
Actually.. No.. If a goalie leaves the Blue Paint or the Goalie Crease .. any player can check him.. This is why Lucic was not suspended.I remember when Recchi was in Montreal and Hextall was in philly and they both raced for the puck and Recchi got checked by Hexy and fell over and Hexy took the puck and cleared the puck out of the zone. When asked .. Recchi said he thought that he wasnt allowed to check the goalie. When Hexy was asked, he stated .. anyone can check me I am out of the crease.
Actually.. No.. If a goalie leaves the Blue Paint or the Goalie Crease .. any player can check him.. This is why Lucic was not suspended.I remember when Recchi was in Montreal and Hextall was in philly and they both raced for the puck and Recchi got checked by Hexy and fell over and Hexy took the puck and cleared the puck out of the zone. When asked .. Recchi said he thought that he wasnt allowed to check the goalie. When Hexy was asked, he stated .. anyone can check me I am out of the crease.It is allowed.
Actually.. No.. If a goalie leaves the Blue Paint or the Goalie Crease .. any player can check him.. This is why Lucic was not suspended.I remember when Recchi was in Montreal and Hextall was in philly and they both raced for the puck and Recchi got checked by Hexy and fell over and Hexy took the puck and cleared the puck out of the zone. When asked .. Recchi said he thought that he wasnt allowed to check the goalie. When Hexy was asked, he stated .. anyone can check me I am out of the crease.It is allowed.This is not as bad as the Reimer hit when he obtained his concussion and he WAS in the crease… THAT SHOULD HAVE WARRENTED A SUSPENSION… not Miller’s hit and overdramatic antics.
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42.1 Charging – A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A "charge" may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.
A minor, major or a major and a game misconduct shall be imposed on a player who charges a goalkeeper while the goalkeeper is within his goal crease.
A goalkeeper is not "fair game" just because he is outside the goal crease area. The appropriate penalty should be assessed in every case where an opposing player makes unnecessary contact with a goalkeeper. However, incidental contact, at the discretion of the Referee, will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 15, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Charging.. You can argue that .. with any player.. not just a goalie…
Charging.. You can argue that .. with any player.. not just a goalie…You could argue that Lucic charged Miller. Thats why he got the 2 minute minor penalty, however, Goalie or no Goalie, Lucic should not be punished by Shanaban and he wasnt. Not every concussion or injury should be an automatic suspension. If Miller didnt want to be checked or charged he should have stayed in the crease. Once you leave the crease, your subject to being checked just like any other player.
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you cannot legally check a hockey player who is vulnerable
and by the very nature of their position and equipment goalies are vulnerable 99.99999% of the time
the rest of the time being when they are actively being aggressive by initiating contact
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
It’s unfathomable to me that hockey fans are split on this. It should be Don Cherry + Boston versus the rest of the hockey world.
He could’ve stopped, he could’ve done a fly by instead he deliberately planted Miller. And now he’s concussed. I can’t wait for Bryz’y to be run.
by Dan Thompson on Nov 15, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Why would you wish injury on any player ?
If Bryzgalov leaves the Crease he should expect that someone would check him as well. I also dont understand why Miller is getting more Public Relations on his hit as opposed to James Reimer’s hit… ohhh wait… thats right .. its Media Sweetheart Ryan Miller.
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Millers hit and overdramatic antics? you mean a concussion?
man we can’t take goalie hits out of the game it will turn it into figure skating!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. For once we agree
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sarcasm Rob
your lack of respect for the safety of hockey players is astounding
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
My sarcasm is towards you .. not the safety of players. Don’t confuse the two.
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you think goalies are fair game to be flattened with body checks when they are playing the puck
clearly you don’t give a shit about their safety
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
you also do not seem to know what sarcasm is
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I regret posting that rule. I could have probably had an entire beer in the time it took me to do so.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 15, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
you keep posting rules like that and hockey will turn into figure skating!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
saving my breath
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and your common sense
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 15, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
From that hit Miller suffered a concussion........
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
High stick or not, Vanek kept that puck in the zone like a boss.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions
Carey Price is better than Brodeur with the puck.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 9:42 PM EST reply actions
Showed a lot of poise with the defender so close.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 14, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
As always, a great and funny read PPP. But why is everyone getting pissed over the Snyder reference?
All Chemmy did was state the facts:
" Dany Heatley is a Multiple 50 goal scorer and one time he drove his car so fast that his best friend disappeared just like Back to the Future IV: Doc Forgets Where He Parked the DeLorean (In Time)."
= Heatley was an asshat and drove more then twice the speed limit in his Ferrari and killed his friend Snyder in doing so.
Chemmy just paraphrased it.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I say, what the devil is going on in here!?

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His Monocles/60 is quite low, and I don’t like the looks of his QualDraw.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 15, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 15, 2011 1:37 AM EST reply actions
Spezza playing in Ottawa is complete mayhem. Complete, everyday mayhem.
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by Peter Raaymakers on Nov 15, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Dany Heatley
killed someone by being an asshole and driving too fast. Whether or not he’s sorry about it doesn’t take away from the fact that he was being a stupid fuck. Whether the parents forgive him for it doesn’t take away from the fact that he was being a stupid fuck. He deserves the ridicule.
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