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Priorities

This is a man that had his priorities in life straight.

Andrey Osadchenko is the Nations' roving Russian reporter and he's dug up a few gems. Yesterday he had a longer interview with Nikolai Kulemin. His latest post is a bit of a heartbreaker:

Igor Korolev played 4 seasons for the Maple Leafs before he was traded to the Blackhawks. He scored 60 goals and 161 points in 297 regular season games as a Leaf. Last season was last in his professional career. After retirement he became an assistant coach of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl - a team that sadly died in terrible aircraft crash early in September.

This is his last interview. In December of 2009 Korolev told Alexei Shevchenko and Alexander Lyutikov what motivated him to keep playing hockey when he was almost 40, why his family stayed for good in Toronto and what defines a real hockey player.

Yesterday was Thanskgiving in the United States (I know because the Lions lost an afternoon game) which is comically late but every day is a good day to reflect on some of the themes that Korolev touched on in his interview.

Some more lighthearted Leafs and NHL fare after the jump

Star-divide

LEAFS LINKS

The Leafs Are Sell-Outs

Danny Gray cannot believe how the Leafs have changed

A Maple Leaf blueline with sandpaper—and skill: yes, it feels like 1971 again

The current mix on the Leafs' blueline has been rare over the past four decades but it might finally be rounding into shape

Marlies This Week

Things are looking up on the farm as Alec provides an update of the past seven days

Words Were Said

Jeffler went to a Marlies' season ticket holder event with Dave Poulin. Some good thoughts here on the marketing of the team

Leafs’ Lupul one of NHL’s early success stories

Joffrey Lupul's been a great story for the Leafs. Hope he keeps it up. Hell of a salary dump,

Stars fear Leafs’ speed

The Stars should be afraid. Also, Reimer is at least 10 days out and Grabovski practiced. Look out NHL.

Young Americans

Jake Gardiner is showing some flashes of Bryan Berard.

MUSICAL INTERLUDE

NHL LINKS

November 24 News and Notes

Robert Cleave shares his thoughts on the seven Canadian NHL teams and the league at large

A Look At The NHL Awards Races Through The First Quarter

Scott Cullen has Phil Kessel as the Hart Trophy winner but he should have Ron Wilson as the Jack Adams winner. I mean, the Leafs are the worst team ever right?

Meet The Province's new hockey bloggers

Friend of the Blog Cam Charron made the cut! He'll be insufferable for other Friend of the Blog Thom Drance. I bet Friend of the Blog Jason Chimera tells him to shut his fucking mouth.

So you agree…You think he’s really creepy

Inspired by Wyshynski's collection of icky McGuire quotes, Blogged Shots is going to run a season-long project to track the worst.

Sidney Crosby's Return Draws Awful TV Rating; Was Jeremy Roenick Right?

The ratings in the US were not that great for Sidney's return.

Tracking Zone Entries and Zone Exits

Derek Zona is going to try to push the Oilogosphere to the leading edge of advanced stats

Points Per 60 Leaders

A couple of pretty productive players top the list

NHL Power Rankings

The Leafs' ranking is worth it just for the emoticon

24/7 Debuts Friday

If you get HBO then you're in for a treat as this year's incarnation tracks the Flyers and Rangers. Lots of big personalities there.

Closer look at statistics reveals reason teams are successful

The Montreal Gazette has a good interview with one of the contributors to Habs Eyes On The Prize

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that tambourine guy is loving his job, despite breaking the tambourine rule.

the only reason to have a tambourine is if it’s being played by a hot chick

August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.

by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 7:09 AM EST reply actions  

Having way too much fun in that video.

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Kessel love-in. Recognition!

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/1091997—poll-who-s-the-second-best-player-in-the-nhl

PHIL KESSEL

His name might have seemed out of place at the beginning of the season, but not anymore.

The Leafs winger is the NHL’s scoring leader and is recognized as arguably the most dangerous player with the puck in open ice.

Blues coach Ken Hitchcock mentioned Kessel in those terms without being prompted and several other NHL coaches have also spoken of Kessel in similar terms.

/Horrible trade

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 7:15 AM EST reply actions  

Of course, Seguin

is the “former NHL all-star’s” choice at the conclusion of the article. Some things will never change

by AkiSchennberg on Nov 25, 2011 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

if we don’t pay attention to this stuff, it will go away, but it’s so hard to do.

we need paul anka to sing a catchy jingle about it.

August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.

by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Guarantee void in Toronto

by Bobby Paradise on Nov 25, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Paul Anka’s little known performances for the animated film ’George and the Star" would be highly appropriate for Kessel.

“You! You give! You’ve given me a reason to succeed!”
“Yes you! You give! You’ve given me a reason to believe!”

Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.

by Brunswick Bruiser on Nov 25, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is this scout?
The Star contacted an NHL scout, who provided this list:

Claude Giroux, the Sedins, Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Logan Couture, Joe Thornton, Tyler Seguin, Anze Kopitar, and Evgeni Malkin. "There are more, of course," the scout said. "Kessel’s scoring puts him in conversation but as a wing it’s hard to rate better than the centres."

Seriously?

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

totally seriously. I mean, since when did Kessel get back in the defensive zone and cross-check someone in the face? NEVER. because he’s a winger, obviously.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget that he’s slumping too. that’s pretty hard to factor in. Elite NHL players almost never slump.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Given that centres also take faceoffs and have larger defensive responsibilities, I don’t think that’s really a particularly unfair thing to say. That being said, I’m pretty sure Seguin plays wing, usually with either Bergeron or Krejci, because they don’t trust him to play defence.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Daniel Sedin doesn’t play centre either, and I don’t think Kane and Couture spend most of their time there.

/consistency

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 25, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Kane has been playing there most of this year…

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That's true

Still, it sounds like the scout is not giving enough credit to Kessel for his performance so far, at least if the scout would take Couture over Kessel.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Couture is fantastic but he hasn’t proven what Kessel has.

Of course he’s playing behind a lot of terrific players on SJ too.

No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.

by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Couture

But over Kessel? No.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Players in their first couple of years are sexy. They give reporters the impression that they’re writing about something new.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Kane = new hotness
Ray Whitney = old & busted?

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm calling you out Chuck Diesel

Not only did you comment in that terrible comments section, but you dropped the following:

hlmenken
Do you even watch the games? I don’t think you have a slight clue how dominating Kessel has been so far this year.

(emphasis mine)

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah of course lol dropping do you even watch the games is something I learned from PPP

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it bad that that motown cover of Nickelback actually sounds pretty good? I did grow up listening to Motown, so that might be it…..Not as good as the classics though.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 AM EST reply actions  

I thought it was great too

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by PPP on Nov 25, 2011 8:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

A cover tune that blows away the original.

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 25, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

But guys, the internet has taught me that Nickelback = the suck so i’m confused

I channel the spirit of ol' Mariusz the Polish Prince.
Tweet me silly at: http://twitter.com/PrinceMariusz

by Mariusz Czerkawski on Nov 25, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Or....

Wreck’d

R.I.P. Habs playoff hopes for 2011-12.
And also, FCK LUCIC.
Did I mention the FLYRES ARE ASS?
And it's pronounced Kool-YO-meen, fool.

by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I tried rec’ing this twice and accidentally unrec’d it. That’s how much I don’t like Nickelback.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It would have been nice if that petition had worked. They were god fucking awful during that halftime show yesterday. Not that that should come as any big surprise to anyone.

Also, the cover is awesome.

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

But that sax player is TERRIBLE. Nearly ruined it.

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Brown to the IR? boooo

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

If it’s the same issue he just had surgically repaired in the summer expect he gone for a while. Sigh

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 25, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Our fourst line is going down in flames

No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.

by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was our other other other first line?

"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else."

Albert Einstein

by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 25, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really. David Steckel to the rescue!

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not even sure if SH draws can save it.

No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.

by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Obviously to gain necessary cap space so that Comeau can be grabbed on waivers, duh

No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No Hebrew Hammer gives BCapp a sad

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 converted! Success!

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

TEACHERS WON’T SELL MLSE

HUZZAH! THE BLOG NAME IS STILL RELEVANT

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

turns out not one person out there offered us all of the money, that was our price, all of it, we think it was reasonable

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

We all know it’s because of Phil Kessel

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Phil Kessel’s goalscoring —> PLAYOFFS!!!1 —> $$$$$$$$$$$$$ —> ++++Value to shareholders

No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.

by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

We’ll sell a million jerseys!

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

We’ll sell a million PHIL KESSEL jerseys!

Fixed

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

And then with the profits we can buy some more Phil Kessels.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

buy all the Phil Kessels

and you thought it was over...

by Bullets on Nov 25, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Is a Kessopoly an allowed business practice?

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if you want to be explicit about it.

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

What money?
Some of that internet moneys! Give us the internet money!

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, the comments for that article are going to be horrible.

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

U frgot 2 rite “stoopid”

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for truthiness

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Actual comment
James123
10:33 AM on November 25, 2011
Ironic that teachers retire millionaires while those they taught can’t find work.

by theninjagreg on Nov 25, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in the wrong career path

Time to drop out of med school and head to teachers college

/NotInItForTheMoney

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Government is the Problem
10:25 AM on November 25, 2011
Thanks to the teachers, their unions and all other Ontario public servants and their unions, Ontario is getting dangerously close to complete financial collapse.

“As all Ontarians know, continuing to borrow without curbing spending is simply not sustainable," he said, even though his government has raised the provincial debt by more than $100-billion since 2003 without once curbing spending. Total debt is heading toward $300-billion in coming years.”

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/11/24/terence-corcoran-ontario-gets-closer-to-an-eu-style-crisis/
CeltWarrior

10:47 AM on November 25, 2011
With this investment, I never ever want to hear another teacher whine about pension or anything else for that matter. And I hope they & their protector McGuintystop siphoning off cash from the taxpayer to funnel in to their pension plan. Probably the most overly pampered group of whiners known to man

by theninjagreg on Nov 25, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahah.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty awesome. Shamelessly stealing.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

likewise

Glory glory Man United, AND the other MU, AAAAnd the Leafs. Experiencing cheering whiplash for decades..

by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s actually a whole series of those, they’re all pretty funny.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Goddamned teachers making millions of dollars a year working unbelieably long hours for little respect and low pay.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The craziest part is how they lie, the Leafs are estimated to be worth what, only $500 million? But if there are tens of thousands of teachers in Ontario (maybe more?), the Leafs must be worth a lot more for them to get these millions. Dirty liars!!

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair MLSE is a lot more than just the Leafs. But yes, it is a big chunk of it

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Nov 25, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was implying that most of those commenters don’t realize that either.

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome, according to this guy my gf is going to be a millionaire. I’m set!

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Bahahah! Good luck with that plan.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m actually relieved at this, I would rather a giant faceless canadian coporation hellbent on profit and maximizing ROI with no regard towards on ice/court/field product is owning the team.

/patriot’d

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I once worked for Teachers'

And knew the guys who handled the MLSE investment. I think they’ve been unfairly tarred, primarily because they’re so quiet about their involvement. But most of these guys are seasons ticket holders (in the upper bowl no less), which they purchased on their own dime at full market price, and very rarely used the directors seats (only to entertain VIPs or very deserving underlings – like myself). These guys wanted to win just like everyone else.

Considering everything that Rogers’ touches turns to shit – CityTV, FIdo, etc – I’m thankful that they’re not getting involved.

by The Norris on Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate Rogers so much, I’d much rather be a pension plan puppet than a terrible evil company puppet.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, CityTV was never exactly awesome to start with.

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Nov 25, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

/slow clap

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m gonna go ahead and rec this.

and it’s hockey related because I first heard about it from a teammate on my select team.

opened my eyes man.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Its because of them I knew of Shannon Tweed before the reality show Family Jewels

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Shannon Tweed. Oh man. What would my teen years have been without that woman?

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

spent outside?

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

BABYBLUE 2 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I sometimes wondered “why is it Babyblue 2? Was there a Babyblue 1?”

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Nov 25, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

baby blue sound crew?

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the adventures of miss money jane?

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, the original Baby Blue movies ran on CITY-TV in the ’70s. Then, when they brought sexy back, the new series was dubbed “Baby Blue 2”.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHA! Nicely played.

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Nov 25, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t you mean Saturday morning at 12:05am?

/stickler’d

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Nov 25, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

but it hard it’s charm, and that was gone once CTV bought CHUM and dispersed it.

Because CTV is worse than Rogers in my mind.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

hard it’s charm

Freudian slip?

by Bobby Paradise on Nov 25, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha, i guess

August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.

by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with this. Most of CTV’s assets have turned out pretty well. They know when to invest and divest. With Bell backing them now it’s a pretty crazy conglomerate

by Neale's Harry on Nov 25, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I have family connections to old CityTV,

so there are my potential biases right up front, but…

…CityTV was pretty damn influential in its heyday. The style they used has become ubiquitous so they you don’t even notice it, but they were a pioneer in that regard.

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah they were. i think most people in the ‘biz’ recognize that.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

FWIW I hate that style. I want the news from two people sitting at a godforesaken desk. The Sportscenter set-up is more professional than some news outlets today. I don’t want people relaying news about a tragedy standing on a goddamn staircase.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough, although the style extends to other kinds of shows, not just news. A lot of the reason for the popularity is actually that it can be way cheaper to make a show that way.

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

What does this have to do with Flyers fans?
The style they used has become ubiquitous so they you don’t even notice it, but they were a pioneer in that regard.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually CityTv had one really good show that was ahead of its time… It was called “The NewMusic” That in itself was worth having that channel. Any show that’s theme song was Papa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag cant fail.

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by BlueBuds on Nov 25, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yo momma so fat she watches City TV eeeeeeeeeeeeeverywhere.

TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)

by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Still waiting for Rogers to get the Jays into the playoffs. I mean, the fans have stopped showing up and everything! Shouldn’t they get the message by now? Oh wait, the reason the Jays aren’t a big market team is because there’s not enough fan support? I guess that’s not completely hypocritical, Richard Griffin. Actually, yes it is.

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Nov 25, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wish the MSM would show some cautious optimism, rather then the all or nothing “Leafs suck” or “PLAYOFFS!!1”

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by kudzupo on Nov 25, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Sells papers.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, lots of stupid people in Toronto ready to jump back on the Phil Kessel/Leaf Bandwagon

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

we need to booby trap that wagon

August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.

by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

this should be rec’d more

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

okay

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

People, in general, aren’t going to read that and believe you’re referring to them.

So fuck you, buddy, nobody calls me stupid. Way to make it personal. ;)

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

No one really wants nuance anyway.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you mean

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I just read that to the tune of “Everyone loves a slinky”.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Please don't ban me...

So at the risk of Heresy, what to do if a team comes to Markham (where I reside) ?

I know, MLSE would never allow it bla bla bla, but maybe Bettman will finally decide that a guaranteed money maker in the centre of the North American hockey universe might actually be a good idea, rather than a 4th southern US failure.

But just in the 1 in 10000000000000000 chance it is actually what is being planned while everyone vehemently denies it…

a) Do you guys think it will happen?
b) Would you cheer for said team, treat them with unabashed scorn, or somewhere in between?

by GettinGiggy on Nov 25, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

this can’t be rec’d enough.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Cheer for the Leafs. Always.

Ultimately it’s up to you whether you want to be a traitor or not and change allegience. But it’s a one-way fandom ticket.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d treat them like the Senators, maybe even worse since a lot of people will proudly announce their bandwagon jumping.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

but I’d like them since it’s another way to see a Leafs game nearby

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure they would still be called the “Toronto Whatevers”… they wouldn’t let them be called “Markham”.. too bush league. We’d call them Markham though.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

How about The Ontario Who Gives a Shits?

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Assuming it's PHX that gets moved if it happens

They could be the Toronto ZZzzzzzzzzzzz’s

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

the Toronto Fuck You Hamilton’s

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They would probably do like the Raptors and pick something big in the movies recently… The Toronto Blue Aliens? The Toronto Teenage Vampires with Feelings? The Toronto Avengers?

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d buy that jersey

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Markham Asylum would be the best name for an arena of all-time.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 25, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The “Crushed Can” humbly disagrees.

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Nov 25, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The Toronto Galinaki?

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Nov 25, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Toronto Mutant Ninja Turtles (sponsored by Mattel)

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Toronto Transformers, playing at the Hasbro Centre… who always lose to Optimus Reim.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought that said “Markham Opticians” and I thought, how appropriate.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Potentiall the Markham Sweet and Sour Porks.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

(didn’t mean for that to be offensive, just so everyone knows)

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

i was merely commenting on the sheer amount of glasses stores in markham as well

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I know you were, I was commenting on the sheer number of Chinese restaurants there. It’s cool to see how the city has changed over time since I was young and living in Unionville, but i was just joking that name might be more reflective of Markham at present.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think mine is more offesnive anyway.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's offensive to reference the demographic makeup of an area

Any more than the Toronto St. Patricks.

It’s not dismissive or harping on a stereotype with an ugly legacy so it seems plenty legit to me.

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All you Ihite guys are alike.

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You forgot the impression where you walk all bow legged and bulge out your eyes and shout “blahblahblah, blaaaah blahblahblah”.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Or something with bad alliteration. Rejected Raptors names were T-Rex, Tarantulas, and Terriers.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

TORONTOSAURUS REX!!

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

They could buy a Truckasaraus for intermission shows

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think a Canadian team should just go with “Guard.” Would lend itself to an awesome logo and the anthem would be huge.

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by TheBurnward on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs could go over and stand on the Guards for thee?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Markham Girls with Dragon Tattoos

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Markham Wall [of China]

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The Markham Commuters

The Markham Absence of City Planners?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Markham “This was farmland 10 years agos”

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Good old PPP, vague and unopinionated as ever ;)

It would be interesting to see if they could generate a decent following or not. I suspect all the central Ontario Sens fans (aka anti-Leaf fans) would jump over quite quickly.

Obviously no one here would pay the likely 50% cheaper tickets and avoid traffic hassles involved in getting to the ACC, but I’m sure a certain percentage of younger people who don’t have leafs history, and newer Canadians might get into it. Who knows.

Anyway, I’ll probably shut up about it after this to avoid being more flamebait.

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by GettinGiggy on Nov 25, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I see more hassles getting to markham. ACC has the TTC and lots of GO service.

the comparison can by getting to a Rangers game at MSG VS going out to Long Island or NJ

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of building an arena would, I imagine, mean helping to fund transit expansion.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s apparently right near the Markham GO station.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah but up there’ it’s all buses isn’t it? there’s a GO train station, so maybe an increase in running that line on game/event nights, but i doubt the subway would make it’s way up there in a relatively reasonable amount of time

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Private dollars tend to push city coffers pretty well. But, yeah the subway wouldn’t be there for a while.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the likely 50% cheaper tickets

hahahahaahahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahaah

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously.

if they’re not one expensiveticket they’;d go Bronze Silver, Gold and the Leafs would be Platinum and charge ACC prices at the very least.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand everyone (outside this website) seems to think 2nd Toronto team will = significantly less expensive tickets.
Sure, they likely wouldn’t be able to charge the exact same rate as Leafs tickets right off the bat (for obvious reasons), but you can bet it will be somewhere around the 85 – 95% of what Leafs tickets go for.

by Matt97 on Nov 25, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

They could absolutely charge Leafs prices right off the bat, take advantage of the people who are on that huge season ticketholder queue for the Leafs.

They may have to bring it down eventually, but right away they could do it like Winnipeg and make people commit 2-3 years upfront.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember reading somewhere that Winnipeg ticket prices were top 5 in the league. Any idea where ticket price data is?

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont’ have it but it definitely is. It’s around Montreal’s average price I think.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The City of Markham is just over 260,000
The entire York Region is just over 1,000,000.

The entire fanbase would have to be plucked away from a region that has been dominated by the Maple Leafs for decades, with no print or television exposure (because whie the media would cover them, there’s not a chance they’d have the same exposure the Leafs receive

There’s not a goddamn chance this would ever work.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

it would work, but not on the Leafs scale, again the Rangers vs islanders/Devils comparison comes up

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, have people thinking a team in Markham would work actually BEEN to Markham? It’s all the traffic of Mississauga with literally nowhere to go.

Go down to Pacific Mall on a Saturday afternoon. Now imagine that traffic everywhere near an arena and tell me whether an NHL hockey team in Markham is a good idea.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 25, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of traffic, best way to get from 400 to Yonge and Eg would be?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This afternoon around 2

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

400 and what? and where are you going?

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Coming from Parry Sound, going to a friends place right at Yonge and Eg. Figured 401 West to Allen and then east on Eg, but not sure.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’d do, not that I’m an expert.

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, at that time in the afternoon it wont be bad.

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent, thanks.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

If you’re walking around yonge and eg dm me, I work right at the corner

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Will do.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to live at Yonge and Eg. It’s pretty hopping now…

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re getting an Urban Outfitters.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I live at Yonge/Broadway. It’s full of families, children and dogs now.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to live there, taking the Allen or even just going straight down Yonge is fine. If you take the Allen, I would take Lawrence East instead of Eglinton.

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

400 to 402 est to leslie, down leslie to eglington is another good way. go through the bridle path.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

doh 401 east

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Id just get off at Yonge, turn left on Lawrence then right on Mt. Pleasant the rest of the way.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

That was option 2. I’ll see how busy the 401 looks and go by that.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The only potential problem with that route is making the left off of the Allen. Should be okay at that time, but sometimes it gets backed up forever (read 5+ lights). The other option would be taking 401 to Yonge and just taking that down.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya but at 2 pm it should be bad. Getting off at Lawrence would be a good option. Going down Yonge will be a pain in the ass

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

This is true, I’ll make a split second decision that will end up being the wrong one no doubt.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

What I would probably do is take 401 to Avenue. Take Avenue to Lawrence. Take Lawrence to Yonge.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t take Avenue past Lawrence though, as it is under construction (at least it was a ocuple of months ago).

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds way to complex

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

just take Allen to Eglinton. Trust me on this one. I take the 401 to work at 7:30AM and I take this route.

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

My country bumpkin instincts were correct! Huzzah!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Helicopter or flying broomstick.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, and the Isles are the epitomy of a self-sufficient, well-run organization with a raving fan base.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

we don’t know if Markham would be well run

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

See: “Asylum.”

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta think it would work. There are just so many hockey fans.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, basically. That’s the bottom line.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re tickets will likely be roughly the same as Leafs tickets, because frankly, they’ll sell out. If they were to come in 10 years I cuold see myself splitting seasons tickets with someone just as an avenue to see more professional hockey (and a long term investment. ie split it 4 ways,

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad this is catching on.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Its only him. And I am going to smack you tonight.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

im trying to help you learn.

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew someone was going to do this. thats not the wrong word, thats just me being lazy and not using punctuation. in the case of their/there and its/it’s, it’s different. and don’t correct thats.

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

actually it’s : )

unless your eyes rest on your top lip.

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lol (or LOL, or L.O.L.), actually, just (I’m Laughing Out Loud)

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Pharmacists can figure out what I mean.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I already hate markham in general. let alone if another team went there? oh man.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d be completely indifferent towards them. just like the Jets.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I was born and raised in Markham, lived there my entire life.

I’d hate the new team.

The arena would be literally 30 minutes from the ACC, that is ridiculous

by Tothelinebutnotout on Nov 25, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Literally 30 minutes at 3am in good weather otherwise its not 30 min

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not really that bad. I’ve made the trip around a hundred times and it’s usually around 30 minutes unless directly at rush hour but then there’s the go train instead

by Tothelinebutnotout on Nov 25, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It once took me 20 minutes to get from dvp and bloor to dvp and lawrence. The DVP is a disaster at all times

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

The only time I’ve been on it and it wasn’t at least somewhat painful was actually at 2 in the morning.

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Where exactly in Markham are the proposing it goes?

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

The arena would be built on a tract of land owned by Bratty, just west of the existing GO Transit train station in Unionville, and just north of Highway 407…

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s an area earmarked for high density “downtown” development. As mentioned above you have both the GO and the 407 right there. And the non-operating (right now) Viva system if anyone cared.

by GettinGiggy on Nov 25, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

if the Marlies were to move there (never would happen) I would honestly get season tix

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I probably would too, I think I’d be even close than you.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I live 2 minutes away from the 407. 20 min drive, all highway and I’m there.
That would be amazing

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah me too, would be even less than 20min for me. I’d go to alot of games for sure.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at a satellite picture of the area, do they mean at Warden and 7?

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Nevermind

I zoomed in and that greyish area looks like unused paved area.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What are the chances that the Marlies move there and become the major tenant?

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

slim to none, MLSE runs the Ricoh and 19,000 is way too big for the AHL.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

K thanks – living out west means I’m not up on some of that stuff.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, Hamilton plays in Copps which is over 10,000 seats and it’s a cavern in there.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Copps is 18,000 seats, they close the upper bowl with Curtains though to make it feel somewhat cozier (and the lower bowl is still half empty).

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah doesn’t help though, the roof is still so high.

i love playing there because it feels a lot different than a community rink, but man, it feels a bit empty at times

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

About 8 years ago when the Flames were terrible (and not drawing fans, unlike now when they are merely terrible and well-attended) they used to do that in the SaddleDome for NHL games as well. They curtained off the nosebleeds to make the seating bowl seem smaller.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

CaLOLgary.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

now does the same rule as in MLB apply where if you tarp/curtain off seats you can’t undo it for the playoffs to increase ticket sales?

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The smarta$$ answer would be “Calgary never got to find that out!”, but in truth the answer is “no, it’s not the same”.

They tarped off level 3 for most of the year that they squeaked in and launched the whole “Red Mile” thing. Nosebleeds were sold out during that playoff run.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

what on earth is the point of that rule?

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I can probably accept someone ditching Leafs for a new team in the following situation (or at least can’t judge because its to far from my experience):

Grew up a Leafs fan in a market with no team (lets say Tampa Bay). Then a team comes to your market and you get to have a “hometown team”. If you converted to that team I could probably understand.

But in Markham, you are completely in the GTA (I grew up in Vaughan), and cheering for a new team is nonsense because the Leafs already are your hometown team.

So, yeah, I’d boo the shit out of them, but I’d like them for the rivalry potential.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Bill Simmons covers the valid reasons for switching teams pretty thoroughly in his rules for being a true fan:

19. Once you choose a team, you’re stuck with that team for the rest of your life … unless one of the following conditions applies:

# Your team moves to another city. All bets are off when that happens. In fact, if you decided to turn off that sport entirely, nobody would blame you.

# You grew up in a city that didn’t field a team for a specific sport — so you picked a random team — and then either a.) your city landed a team, or b.) you moved to a city that fielded a team for that specific sport. For instance, one of my Connecticut buddies rooted for the Sixers during the Doctor J Era, then happened to be living in Orlando when the Magic came to town. Now he’s a Magic fan. That’s acceptable.

# One of your immediate family members either plays professionally or takes a relevant management/coaching/front office position with a pro team.

# You follow your favorite college star (and this has to be a once-in-a-generation favorite college star) to the pros and root for his team du jour … like if you were a UNC fan for the past 20 years, and you rooted for the Bulls (because of MJ) and then the Raptors (because of Vince). Only works if there isn’t a pro team in your area.

# The owner of your favorite team treated his fans so egregiously over the years that you couldn’t take it anymore — you would rather not follow them at all then support a franchise with this owner in charge. Just for the record, I reached this point with the Boston Bruins about six years ago. When it happens, you have two options: You can either renounce that team and pick someone else, or you can pretend they’re dead, like you’re a grieving widow. That’s what I do. I’m an NHL widow. I don’t even want to date another team.

Of course, he’s back on the Bruins bandwagon now, although he’s also now breaking his own rules against sports bigamy by cheering for the Kings during the NBA lockout. Anyway, it’s hard to imagine any of them applying to a Markham team except the family member exception.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

After the B’s won the Cup, Simmons thanked the “hard cap.” Why would a franchise in Boston need a hard cap to compete?

by Papa Squid on Nov 25, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

because someone might have offered thomas 8 billion dollars when his contract was up last time? who knows

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Because Jeremy Jacobs was cheap as fuck.

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by clrkaitken on Nov 25, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So my description was the same as #2

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I want there to be a 2nd team in Toronto but if that ever becomes a reality. Fuck that team.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL. I think you summarized the prevalent view here quite well :)

by GettinGiggy on Nov 25, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless the team playing in markam is the leafs with stamkos in the lineup its just another team I don’t like. Hope they sellout every game but I’m a leafs fan. Period. Conversation over.

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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 25, 2011 3:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m starting to think this was a test to see which scenarios we would turn.

Congrats, we all passed.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone know what the canadian ratings were for sids return?

Assume it was over the 200,000 US viewership

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Nov 25, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

one of the past 2 or 3 FTBs had the stats on the games. Pretty sure total viewers was ~1.1 million.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

thought it was 1.7 or something.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It was ~50% of a normal Leafs HNiC game.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Reimer’s return is going to have crazy ratings.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

If it’s on a Saturday, ya.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think it will be too much mroe than a regular Leaf game

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

it feels like he’s been gone forever :(

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not going to be able to track puck possession for tonight’s game. If someone else wants to do it, that’d be awesome. Otherwise I’ll resume doing it with Sunday night’s game.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

Mentioned this on Twitter, but it bears repeating: We sure don’t hear a lot about players “outperforming their ELCs” anymore. Not to say that it’s not a very valuable asset from a cap management perspective, simply that it’s not the new hotness it once was.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Duh, Boston won without a player remarkably outperforming his contract, and also an elite goalie, therefore thats all we should hear about.

Until next year when a team who has a young kid outperforming his ELC with an average goalie wins.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup, this is basically it. The narrative that we hear is basically “do what last year’s Cup winner did”. I still think having players out-performing their ELCs is extremely valuable. I don’t think it’s an accident that many teams are playing younger guys on cheap contracts rather than signing older UFAs like they used to.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, having Vezina winning goalies is extremely valuable. More teams should just have that.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Vezina/Conn Symthe double winners. Which no one other than Thomas had done since Bernie Parent in 1975. That’s right, to win the Stanley Cup you only need to be smart enough to have the most decorated goaltending in 35 years.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Conn Smythe, too.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Especially those 35+ goaltenders.

Old is the new young.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe the way Brian Burke put it was:

There have been 7 teams who have won the cup since the lock out, and when I won, my [was truculent] so that’s what I’m going to do

by Chi-town leafs on Nov 25, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Having young guys out perform their contract is important. Having a guy outperform their ELC and be a stud on the team isn’t that common and I doubt has that large an impact. The Giroux contracts are the ones that build great teams me thinks.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

So, Leafs with Gardiner, Frattin, Colborne in the “outperforming” role?

Yes please!

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

It was extremely exaggerated because of Malkin one year, then Kane/Toews the other. Had Detroit or Philly won those years we barely would have heard about it. For the most part players don’t peak young enough for it to matter.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I also part of it also has to do with GMs learning how to operate under the cap.

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Then again Ville Leino 6yrs 4.5 million.

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh man I remembered that he had signed a really insane contract but I didn’t remember the exact #s, I thought it was shorter than 6y. That is a horrific contract.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He has like 3 points this year. LOL

by samspade on Nov 25, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Did he finally get another? Last I saw it was something like 18 GP 1 1 2

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know much about this Dallas team…what kind of system do they play? I know they’ve been doing pretty well, I just really only know like one or two players on their team.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

Jamie Benn <3

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty much this

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I know they have really stupid jerseys.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

just godawful. i’m not sure which is worse, the current ones or the Mooterus ones

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The Islanders just outdid their ugliness though with their new third.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh man, no one ever learns.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Dallas made their awful 3rd look good, and now the Isles have made the Fishsticks jersey look brilliant.

Can’t wait to see what La may do to make the Burger King jersey great.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

The Islands have a long and storied history of absolutely eye-poppingly ugly jerseys. Like that fisherman one. WTF?

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and now, as soon as they got their shit together by going to back to their only really nice jerseys, they introduce these hideous thirds. The only thing that stops them from being the ugliest jersey in sports is the new Miami Marlins logo and unis… most disgusting thing I’ve seen in a long time.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

they’re not that bad as far as baseball jerseys have gone.

it’s nice to see someone moving away from White/Black/Grey

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The logo looks like a neon sign for a motel… and they have both grey and black Unis. Apparently their owner designed the new look mostly on his own.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Raycroft!

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

If they play him he’ll somehow dominate us. I’d personally like to embarass him but thats just me.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re playing Lehtonen.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I figured, I just would like to 7-1 Raycroft. Or like, 14-1.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

RE Nickleback

when I saw the episodic of Cribs in which they showed Chad’s house, I wanted to kill myself. Those guys may be awful, but they’ve made an awful lot of money doing it.

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I worry about people sometimes.

by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 25, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehh, they’re not any worse than AC/DC, and no one ever complains about them.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand this comparison. Is it just that they’re both bands that you think suck?

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I would agree with that assessment of both bands.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not an AC/DC fan but to compare them to Nickelback is totally unwarranted. Not even close.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

No, I get that he doesn’t like either, it’s just a rather random comparison. AC/DC is an incredibly silly stage band and Nickelback are flakily heartfelt alt-rocker recording artists who take themselves way too seriously. Complaining about AC/DC in the same sentence as Nickelback is like saying you disapprove of both Sarah Palin and Stephen Colbert as presidential candidates.

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by Wan Ihite on Nov 25, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I will quote my immortal guitar hero, Kirk Hammett

Not growing as a band as a way to please your fans is bullshit

AC/DC has put out the same damn album 30 freakin times. Same as Nickleback for me. Only it’s like 5 times as opposed to around 30

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Metallica “grew” by sucking more and more until they almost faded into obscurity. When they realized that wasn’t working they went back to their roots.

Most bands stick to the formula that made them successful in the first place other than a few truly generational bands. Comparing Nickleback to AC/DC for these reasons is wrong. Nickelback is talentless and without musicianship. AC/DC had 2 legendary frontmen, one of the best rhythm guitarists ever and a great lead guitarist. Nickleback has an ugly troll for a singer who writes awful lyrics (Brian Johnston can be included in that criticism also mind you) and a guitarist that plays with one finger. Whoop dee doo.

PS if Kirk Hammett is your guitar hero you need to listen to more Dave Mustaine.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Never could get behind Megedeth. Spent many hours listening to them with my friends but it never grabbed my by the throat like Puppets did the first time I heard it

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck. Megadeth. Damn spelling errors

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that’s irony, considering you’re talking about a band that spells “death” D-E-T-H.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

eh, I prefer Hammett, his playing just seems smoother to me, Mustaine can shred harder for sure, but still prefer Kirk

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I appreciate everything that Mustaine has accomplished but as a matter of preference, I’m a Hammett guy through and through. Definitely on my Mount Rushmore of guitar heroes

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s all a matter of preference. But in my opinion Hammett relies on the wah pedal to muddy up a lot of what he can’t do and to be honest Hetfield is probably an overall better guitarist than Kirk.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite Kirk moment was when he realized that you are right about your first point and that he was using his wah too much and put it away for the entire St. Anger session. Not once did it appear on the entire album. I like when people challenge themselves as musicians and that seemed to be the case for me. I also agree that James Hetfield may be a better all around guitar player and so does Kirk Hammett. I’d be happy to be able to play half as well as either

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

they lyrics and distorted bass heavy hand ruined every single song on that album though

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Not having a real bass player didn’t help. And those songs definitely sounded better live. I was at the Dome for Summer Sanitarium in 03 and they played both Frantic and St. Anger and they killed it.

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

hey hey hey, Bob Rock can play the bass dammit

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I saw their show in London in 04, St Anger was much more tolerable live

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

the tin shower snare really killed it for me .Bob Rock was on crack with his production on that. The songs were pretty cool if they could re-record them.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

big time. That snare drove me crazy.

The documentary they made while recording the album really highlights the fact that they were having a lot of trouble writing good songs and making them sound good.

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah those sessions were fraught with issues. The funny thing is the writing isn’t so bad. The songs have lots of potential even if they were seemingly written in a forced awkward manner. But to me Bob Rock really blew it. I wonder what the engineer thought when Bob Rock would ask to mic up the drums and eq them to make them sound like that. I’d remove my name from that album to protect my professional rep if I was on that clusterfuck.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Something I thought was very telling about the writing process for that album was that they had made a big deal during the St. Anger sessions about how everybody was an equal partner in the lyric writing process, but when Death Magnetic rolled around, it all went back to Lyrics: James Hetfield, Music: Metallica.

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah don’t fuck with the formula. If I’m Metallica I don’t want Bob ‘Payolas’ rock and his eyes of a stranger writing anything on my album.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be pretty interested in knowing EXACTLY what lyrics he was responsible for. Or at least what songs. I know from personal experience that sometimes somebody can blow you away with unknown song writing talents (Picture Kirk Hammett reading his Frantic lyrics) but on a lot of songs it seemed like something was missing

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

They went for some sort of Rick Ruben stripped down vibe but they failed at it miserably. James is the balls of that band. Lars was drinking wine and selling paintings and being Lars. With James absent so much look what happened. I bet Bob had a lot of creative input in that and…. splat.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What killed it for me most was the essential cutting off of Kirks balls. Really? We are gonna let one of the most successful lead players of all time, do his thing? Really?

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah Kirk the George Harrison of his generation.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s essentially the greatest description of him I’ve ever heard

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever his name is who replaced Newsted, I dont like him

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Robert Trujillo. Any reason why? I’ve thought he was ridiculously talented since I first saw him play with Ozzy

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Just not a fan. I also LOVED Newsted. I love this quote:

“We’re definitely sell outs. We sell out every concert we play.”

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Trujillo. I think his talent is pretty much guaranteed to be left unseen with a band like Metallica but Infectious Grooves stuff was brilliant.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s awesome.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh, no kidding. Im a bit of an engineer myself and If i had to put in long hours mixing that shit id be pretty frustrated. Its always fun t mix music and work on albums, but sometimes when you get creative direction like that, it can really take away from the enjoyment.

“Wow, its like im purposely making Metallcia sound like crap and their producer is the one pushing up the crap factor”?"

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah exactly. I worked at Metalworks studios around that time and Nick Blagona who works out of there who engineered half the music on the radio for the last 30 years asked if that was a demo recording.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

nice, i live 2 seconds from Metal Works and ive still never been in there haha.
I should drop of a resume, assuming they dont jsut hire students who work for free

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They hire interns who usually leave when they get fed up with being an unpaid coffee maid but if you intern long enough they start to give you cracks at assisting with minor bands and you can work up from there. I interned twice a week for about a month and a half then became a full time paid coffee maid/secretary/ cleaning lady for another 2-3 months and then they started giving me assisting gigs. I left after about 6 more months of that because at $300 a week I was pretty much starving.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nickleback has an ugly troll for a singer who writes awful lyrics (Brian Johnston can be included in that criticism also mind you)

Now, that’s not fair. The Young brothers haven’t allowed Brian Johnson to write any lyrics since 1988’s Blow Up Your Video.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

really? I did not know this. I’m not a huge Johnson fan I’m a big Bon Scott fan. The lyrics since Bon died have been pretty fucking awful.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Half their songs are just giant barely veiled sexual references. Always seemed like a band for sexually frustrated men to me but meh.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yeah “cover you in oil” “cut your cake with my knife” “hard as a rock” and other brutal lines. Pretty much what you said about sexually frustrated men lol. That has to be anthemic rock for them.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Metalica

Every time they come on at work I want to jump in front of a forklift. Every song sounds the same and the vocalist sounds like a dog that’s been stabbed through it’s lungs.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yikes

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The only time I’ve ever been able to tolerate them was in the All Heart video

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

well I can understand disliking metallica due to personal preference, but I don’t get the “all songs sound the same” and description of Hetfields voice considering he has some of the best range and melody out of all metal bands

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He finishes the end of every line with an extended aaaaaaaaaa sound and it pisses me off, what can I say

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I can’t see how Bleeding me sounds anything like Seek and Destroy

or how Unforgiven sounds anything like Master of Puppets

but to each their own.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

All heart is super awesome.

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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 25, 2011 4:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I used to not like Metallica at all but when I listen lately I’ve been enjoying their music more.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

anything black album and before is awesome, everything since not so much…. at least now in my opinion

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Load and re-load are very under rated, quite good on the music end but they are very mainstreamed (for the time at least) and actually play much better now than they did back then. Garage Inc and S&M are just good fun but nothing ground breaking, St Anger was abysmal and death magnetic was about 50/50 good to great/horrible

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a big fan of Pre Load albums. But Load has their best song period in my opinion which is Bleeding Me

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Chuck, you and I are gonna get along just fine based on that comment alone.

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the solo on that song is Kirk’s best by far, new friend.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Bleeding Me is my 2nd favourite Metallica song right after Hero of the day

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I like those ones too. They’re up there for me.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

they both just have a sense of epic about them

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

The Outlaw Torn is my favorite track on that album, It’s one of those CD’s that I’ve noticed where nobody grabs it to put it on but if anything from it comes on via shuffle or something, nobody is changing it.

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The issue with Load and ReLoad is just that they’re way too long, and it’s exhausting. Just because you can fit 80 minutes’ worth of music on a CD doesn’t mean you should. They would have been better off splitting that music up into four 40-minute albums.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand this statement, honestly. You can turn off the CD player whenever you feel like. How many songs are on an album doesn’t really play into whether the individual songs on an album are good or not. I guess The Wall must have sucked for you since it’s a double album.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, The Wall doesn’t exactly have the relentless, pummeling sound of a Metallica album. Some double albums work fine (particularly when they present a variety of sound), but I think Metallica is better served to keep it short and sweet. In Load‘s case, I suppose I could just get the 2-LP set on vinyl and play the discs one at a time as though they’re separate albums.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This is my opinion too. There is some okay stuff on load, don’t remember re load much, but for the most part its Black and older.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I definitely noticed this.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Both bands write bland, generic stadium rock that sells millions of copies to people who like bland, generic stadium rock.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

My opinion of you has increased incredibly after those last 2 comments

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a uniter, not a divider.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone who is a guitarist will fundamentally disagree with your characterization fo AC/DC as like Nickelback. Like I said, I dont even really like AC/DC but they are pretty good at developing real riffs. Nickelback use powerchords. Not even close.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. AC/DC might be enjoyed by same “lowest common denominator” crowd as Nickelback but they’re miles ahead in terms of creativity and musical talent.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The difference is AC/DC sounds good… Nickleback doesn’t

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m a guitarist. AC/DC writes generic blues rock. I’m not saying that their music is the same technically as Nickelback’s, I’m saying they both write bland rock music that people like to listen to in large stadiums.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

there’s some blues in their rock but not much. Let’s not go denigrating blues rock by tarring it with the AC/DC. I am also a guitarist, and a big fan of the real classic blues.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

" Oh come on Willie, tell me that’s not Son House"

“Sounds like bird shit”

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Son House FTW! But I have no idea what you’re quoting.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you never saw “Crossroads”? Like the first one, not the Brittany Spears movie? You need to watch this immediately. It’s imperative.

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I know about it. has the kid from karate kid in it.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Son House was a god by the way, unbelievable style.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen It Might get Loud? Good moment with Jack White and his favourite song.

by 9 Dollar Beer on Nov 25, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

no but his cover of death letter blues is pretty good.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I got me a real good guitah playah, made a deal with me, goes by the name a Jack Butler. He’s real good, discourages a lot of up an comin players

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

my blues listening knowledge cuts off at about 1968 with Magic Sam. I mostly listen to the acoustic blues, e.g. 30s 40s 50s early 60s revival (MJ Hurt, McDowell, Skip James)

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If “generic stadium rock” is a category for you that comfortably describes both Nickelback and AC/DC, I don’t think we’re going to get much further on this line. I accept that a person might not like AC/DC… not exactly something that goes on my home playlist either, though I suspect I would love to go to one of their shows. Like Motorhead, they have written about two songs and then simply played them over and over. This is a bit different from the ruthlessly cynical audience-focused approach that Chad Kroeger and pals seem to engage in.

On a more productive subject, what music do you like? Always looking for new bands to listen to.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

My two favourite recent albums are “Celestial Lineage” by Wolves in the Throne Room and “Strange Mercy” by St. Vincent.

Honestly, I don’t care what music people like. I own multiple Bon Jovi albums, so I’m obviously in no position to criticise people for liking stadium rock, I just personally find AC/DC boring.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

OHHHHHHHHHHH WE’RE HALF WAY THERE

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

WHOAAAAA LIVIN ON A PRAYERR

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by T is for Truculence on Nov 25, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It would be silly to criticize a person’s simple preference in music, so I have no problem with what you’re saying. I raised an eyebrow when you made the comment because Nickelback is criticized for passing off as deep and original what’s clearly simplistic, cynical and shallow. They’re criticized for being posers, essentially. I don’t think many people take AC/DC to be much more than what they are, even their fans.

Put another way: I have no objection to the contents of your letter, I was merely questioning the amount of boot-leather you wore out in delivering it from such a distance :)

Not normally a black metal person, but Wolves in the Throne Room is going on my download list, they sound interesting.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

As a fan of ACDC (though definitely not a huge one), I am well aware of what they are.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup! I couldn’t be such a huge fan of Iron Maiden without that attitude.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy their music too. Never listened to them on my own time, but had a friend in highschool who was a large fan.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can go to a Maiden concert, do so. They seem to be in terrific shape but they can’t possibly be doing it for much longer.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll keep that in mind.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

For crowd participation, stage antics and atmosphere without resorting to enormous amounts of pyro, best large show I’ve been to. They also happen to be really sharp musicians at this point… kinda funny seeing them hack their way through some of the material in 80s show videos, but now they don’t miss a note.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I so need to see them as well. Keep missing them when they pass through the Bay area.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I saw them in Saskatoon last summer and they were amazing. Dream Theater opened for them, one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Love me some Dream Theater.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

They were absolutely perfect at that concert. They’re the reason I went to Saskatoon instead of Winnipeg. And, because Saskatoon sucks, nobody knew who they fucking were.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I live in Ottawa and no good metal shows ever stop by. They’d rather play Kingston than here haha

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by D_Tone666 on Nov 25, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve missed them every time they’ve come to Toronto :(

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not a big black metal fan either, normally. The only other black metal band I really listen to is Agalloch. WITTR are really good, though. Assuming you can tolerate the screamy vocals (though most of the music is instrumental anyway).

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like ACDC.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t say I am a huge fan, but a few of their songs go very well in an uptempo playlist. I’ve also been told that they put on an amazing, high-energy show and that they blew the Stones out of the water at SARStock.

I don’t object to the original sentiment, I just found it weird that they came up in a discussion about Nickelback. That seemed like a long way to go to take a shot at em.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll say flat out I am the furthest thing from a big music fan. To me music is what I listen to in the car sometimes, when I have friends over, and at a party. Occasionally when I am on a long walk I listen to music on my iPhone. But in regards to ACDC, I simply think their music sounds good, and I enjoy listening to it.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that they blew the Stones out of the water at SARStock.

That they did. Not a huge fan myself, either. Of either band really, but AC/DC definitely put on the better show

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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 25, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely true. They brought a much higher energy level. Also, my theory is that AC/DC having a less deep song catalogue worked in their favour, in that it was pretty much impossible to walk away having not heard some favourite AC/DC song. Put another way, AC/DC’s lineup of greatest hits runs about the length of a concert, whereas the Rolling Stones just have too many great songs to play them all, so there’s always going to be room for disappointment.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I was working there and I was a young punk at that point in life but i loved the show it was phenominal.

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by Juggy Gilmour on Nov 25, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

AC/DC CARE NOT FOR YOUR RETARDED WAYS.

FOR THEY ARE AC. AND DC. TOGETHER. AS ONE.

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

why are you screaming at me?

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

OBVIOUSLY

I’M DEAF AS A FUCKING POST AFTER PLAYING BACK IN BLACK 7439 TIMES IN FRONT OF THESE FUCKING SAKERS, EH? EH! EH?

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

SPEAKERS

SPEAKERS, I TELL YOU.

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer sakers

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

huh? This statement is seriously wrong.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Best part is that they gave up a good prospect to acquire him.

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Ryan McDOnaugh

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

wow a #12 pick for Gomez? bahahahaha

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe he was their best prospect at the time. They also gave up Higgins, who at the time had a fair bit of value: In his 4 seasons in Montreal he had 84 goals in 280 GP, which is 0.30 GPG or 25 G over an 82 GP season. His game fell apart after that trade…

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

McDonough (spelling?) has 3 goals and 4 assists this season so far….. he plays defense.

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by SkinnyFish on Nov 25, 2011 12:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He really isn’t brought up enough. That trade was worse than the Kessel one.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, I thought the Kessel trade wasn’t considered bad anymore, even by the MSM!

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you mean 9 months and 20 days.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

And one of the babies smiled at me…

What’s all this about babies?

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 25, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicken AND

Dinner.

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve already played a quarter of the season, meaning he’s already made 1.8 million for 0 goals.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Players with more goals than Scott Gomez include:

Sidney Crosby
Ville Leino

Yup, it’s been a bad season for Gomez.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This whole thread has been amazing.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe Gomez needs his parents & grandparents at games more often

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

he might need to be waived. Honestly, I wouldn’t waste the cap space on that useless meatsack.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

KNOWN CLAUSES: NTC (can list three teams he will not accept a trade to)
So with just an NTC he can be wiaved right?

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

If its just NTC yes, if its NMC no. But let us not fault MTL for not knowing how to manage their assets. Enjoy Greg Pateryn, jerks.

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I hope a “Thank you Pateryn” chant starts up the next time Grabovski scores against the Habs in the ACC.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

so…..next Habs game?

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the coach is looking at his near top of team CorsiRel (not withstanding his easier competition and ozone starts) and think he is due.

by jeffgm on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently he is a solid prospect. At least thats what someone (Burtch maybe?) was saying at the beginning of the season…

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

from corey pronman
The way Habs defenseman are getting hurt sure. Otherwise no. RT @mattmaniac: @coreypronman will Greg Pateryn ever make the NHL?

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Cool. I’m glad a scout can add to this discussion. My knowledge was pure second hand and a glance at hockey db.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a 21 year old defenseman with 2 goals and 10 points in 14 GP in the CCHA, which I believe is the second hardest of the NCAA divisions. I don’t know about his defensive game though.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Brett Lebda’s last NHL goal was scored February 24th, 2011. A full 19 days after Scott Gomez’ last NHL goal.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Frattin
Colboner
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by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

PHIL KESSEL has 16 moar goals!

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

and 400 babies!

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Good thing, too, since we traded him for what one NHL player called a top 5 forward in the league at 18.

Boy, a few people are going to have some burst bubbles when Seguin comes out of this streak.

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

*scout

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by Nirbo on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Seguin’s PDO is 1094, compared to Kessel’s 1049. He’s also got a higher EV shooting %. SO yeah, I’d bet he’ll come down a bit.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

WOAH

I just noticed that Ville Leino only has 5 points in 21 games. Great signing there, Buffalo

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think PPP called this as a whole on July 1st.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah basically he had proven nothing and they just handed him a blank check. Ridiculously terrible management.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Always rec those.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh… haven’t done that in a while.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS.

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by Learn2Leaf on Nov 25, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Question

NHL Canada has 50% off jersey customization until tomorrow. if i get this for my pops for christmas is it a foul?

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

some would say yes since Keon never wore an RBK Edge jersey, but I say meh, that’s being nitpicky.

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure that logo was around when Keon played so I think it’s OK. But why an A and not a C?

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Because he was never the captain when they had this jersey my dad tells me. in 1967 he was wearing the A behind the Chief

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah… that sounds right. But if I had a Keon jersey it would have a C. I guess it comes down to the degree of accuracy you’re going for.

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Its Keon. Thats never a foul

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Although if he sees you in it, he might punch you in the face.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Then strip it off your body, hoist it to the rafters, and declare it retired once and for all.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The NHL store claims that they will not accept customizations that include the name/number of retired players, but I don’t know how strictly they enforce that policy.

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by Draglikepull on Nov 25, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Update, Did it. it’ll be sweet to see him wear this to real sports and games now.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think the Stars might rest Lehtonen tonight since they play against a divisional rival in the Coyotes tomorrow?

Because if they do… we get to play against you know who…

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by Kenjamin on Nov 25, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

I think he’s already been confirmed by a few sources as the starter.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

A goalie that no matter how bad, will up his game?

no, i dont believe it. it’s not possible with he who shall not be named.

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We may see him anyway if Leafs feel like going all Washington/Tampa on them.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure they’ve already announced they’re playing Lehtonen

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Blake Comeau to the FLames

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Franchise saved

I wonder how many teams behind them put in a bid.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re doing to well to have had a shot at him.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm. I would have thought Anaheim would put a bid in before them.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The only teams we can say for certain didn’t put a bid are Columbus and Anaheim. Hrm.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know why that double posted.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know why that double posted.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re a dick

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m studying diseases caused by all of these dicks!

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m studying you.

WOOOOO! WINNNN!

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

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by elseldo on Nov 25, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yupp

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to go ahead and guess that X image is of Dave Hester.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI

Mitchell & Ness is having a $100 jersey sale today, all they have for Leafs is a 92-93 Potvin home. Not sure what sizes are available, check it out if you’ve had your eye on something like that.

by lucc on Nov 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Columbus could overtake NYI tonight.

Let’s get ready to …… point our fingers at a new target and laugh. Although another #1 overall couldn’t hurt well-underway rebuild….

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Although another #1 overall couldn’t hurt well-underway rebuild….

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by lucc on Nov 25, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Lebda will make sure that never happens.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 25, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats a good place to watch the game around Yonge and Eglinton? I am usually only there in the summer (ie not hockey season).

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Boston Pizza is always decent. Also head east on Eglinton, there are a few places there before Mount Pleasant (Philthy McNastys is alright) and there are a few just north of Eglinton on the west side

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. I’ve watched at other Boston Pizza’s I always enjoy it.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

DONT GO to philny mcnastys. Their beer is TERRIBLE. absolutely atrocious. I’d recommend perhaps Scruffy’s a bit furthe down from Boston Pizza although I cant remember how many TVs they have. Enough, I think. And decent beer.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I also hate Philthy’s, though I’ve only been to the one in Burlington, which was actually a lot nicer at its previous location. Bad service, bad food, not very clean.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah those points matter too. It’s just a crappy bar, lots of underagers in the past.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just not a place with really high standards, I’d go to Boston Pizza or Kelsey’s over Philthy’s any day.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, and Im not a Kelsey’s or Boston Pizza fan. I guess the latter is okay for a big chain.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I have literally 0 problem with the one at Yonge/Eglinton.

Service, food, atmosphere was all fine.

I obviously can’t speak for every single one in the chain.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Been there once (not during hockey season). Everything was good but seemed a tad overpriced. Maybe it was just that I was sober (I was dd’ing)

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Saw the opener at Philthy’s. They often have good pitcher+ random food item deals on gamedays.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And shit I can’t remember the name of it, but there’s a new chain Wings place north of Erskine (3 blocks north of Eglinton on Yonge, 5 minute walk) that is decked out for Sports watching, a dozen big TVs everywhere

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a St Louis somewhere south too.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

A little further east on Bayview there’s Duff’s famous wings – lots of tvs there

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The Right Wing

They have like 30 flavours of wings, most I’d never even heard of.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re going after dinner. So just want tv and beer.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

their beer sucks. absolutely totally sucks. When my best choice is Rickards, your beer sucks. I want Steam Whistle, Mill Street, something.

Another good one is Granite Brewery (got married there!), where they do their own brewing. Lots of good English style beers, and some good TVs in the front of the bar. Not a sports bar, but its good beer and good times.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

See I was emphasizing sports atmosphere over beer quality.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for that. Its what TheCeej and I are looking for.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re a beer snob arent you

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

if beer snob means I dont want my beer to taste like piss than yes. Stuff like Molson is garbage, and yet people pay the same for that as it costs for real beer brewed with the actual ingredients: barley, hops, yeast.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So yes you are a beer snob.

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There are definitely a good number of beer snobs on this site, but I don’t mind it, I just don’t get into those conversations. I like beer, and while I like some beers over others, I’m not too picky as long as it’s not lime flavoured or 67 calories.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I like beer, I don’t think it makes me a snob. People are just buying that crappy beer because the companies: a) control the majority of beer distribution in Ontario through their terrible private monopoly, the beer store and b) because they have the money to advertise.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

OR maybe they buy it because they like the taste. I drink Moosehead at home, but if I’m out I’ll drink Rickards. I like it.

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

you can do a lot worse than Rickards.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

sure that’s true, you can do a lot better though.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

And that advertising money keeps a roof over my head :)

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Keiths and Rickards. I honestly do. I think Molsons and Labatts both are solid (nothing special). I enjoy the occasional microbrew, but I am totally fine with the typical domestics.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

With the music discussion going on above, I read this first as “I like Keith Richards…..”

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by Ghostsof on Nov 25, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I like big butts…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who works on a beer client, it’s fair to say I’m pretty snobby as well ( love steamwhistle mill street etc). but I will drink my clients beer and not bitch about it.

There are times when I’d even prefer it over the better beers ( after hockey games, cottage, etc)

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

many people hate it but I find 50 a very underrated beer

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by D_Tone666 on Nov 25, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LCBO just started selling tall boys of them with old school logo, quite happy about that

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by D_Tone666 on Nov 25, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats 50?

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

as my buddy calls it “quebec blue”

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It always reminds me of Sudbury for some reason (and as a result “Sudbury Saturday Night”)

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by TheNadger on Nov 25, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, 50, Molson Dry, Labbatt Ice = Quebec. I actually drank a lot of Molson Dry in high school.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So did I, because everyone I knew thought it tasted so horrible they wouldn’t steal it at parties. Never minded it though.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Plan

Drink beer so bad no one else will touch it.

What could go wrong?

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by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

we used to always drink “offbrands” so we’d know if someone was drining our beer at a party. Black Label was our choice of beer. Only problem was when we got together and we’d all bring the same thing.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This was our rationale too.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Better plan

Drink nothing but stouts and porters. You get excellent/real beer, and the only people who will try to steal it are obviously worthy of your respect.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but when you’re playing beer pong or something that involves a lot of chugging you’re going to get owned after a while due to the heaviness of the beer.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Beer pong?

I used to play that. Then I turned 15.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I still play it. 22 years young.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never played beer pong. 20 years old as of last September.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s crazy. I remember in grade 10 my friend bought one of the beer pong “sets” from Spencer’s gifts (came with sweet racks, cups, balls), we’ve been playing it ever since.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you ever get tired ot being a complete disappointment to everyone?

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No

I thrive on disappointment. Come at me bro.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I am just so disappointed with this response.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

THRIVING

Your anguish sustains me

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Beer pong is awesome. Unless you’re afraid of a little game.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

you’re 22? Wow. Well, I did play beer pong. After about 2nd year of Uni I stopped drinking heavily. There are more green things I prefer to drink, if you know what i mean wink wink nudge nudge.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

DO YOU MEAN MARIJUANA?

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t bash the beer pong.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll still play it at parties, although Flipcup is better. And I’m starting to think im getting too old for that.

I miss University sometimes.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Flip cup is entirely different. Flip cup is better for like busy parties for a few quick games, but Beer Pong is a way better game overall, actually takes a bit of skill in throwing and psych outs.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the only drinking game I play anymore is kings

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s an oldy but a goody. Depending on how you set the rules.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, some people have dumb rules.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, simple and you can tailor it to the level which you want to get wasted

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy drinking euchre and drinking chinese dice as well.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I played it the other day with 4 people who were into it and 2 who weren’t and it was TERRIBLE. I never realized how badly a couple of people can ruin that game.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, one distracted person and it ruins the flow, it’s a good starter game but not so good when people are already drunk

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It was really bad. Played it with all of the same people (except for one, the one who ruined it) many times, always fun. Its a great game.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

my group of friends always played it, for years until my buddy met his now fiance, and now she is always there and she tanks the game every time

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a girl friend who ruined it (and then my buddy also got a little pissy like her)

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the worst. If you’re not going to pay attention to the game and get into it, don’t play at all.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost any drinking game can be fun if people are into it.

But people are the worst.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

3 man is where it was at with dice. Or Pyramid with cards.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit 3-man. That game is a whole new level of “you’re going to throw up on your bed tonight”

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

especially when everyone picks on one guy.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you play with the three man having to drink on multiples of three too?

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

can’t remember, it’s been like over 10 years since i’ve played. But that does sound familar….

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

we’d always play cumulate kings
once the first person got there the game would start and every person who showed up would join in as they arrived
I was usually the first person there

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Advantage of grad/professional school. I am still in University and I think we’re pretty close in age,

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

I too prefer flip cup.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually just don’t like the taste of the major brewers (minus Moosehead if you include it, but its an independent brewery so I dont). You can taste the extracts and other gross stuff they put in the beer.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

most major label brews are brewed with rice, which results in it being rather tasteless compared to small market breweries.

you are paying for the brand basically, not the quality that some craft brews put into it.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that’s how I see it, most “big name” beers are usually inferior due to a lack of taste rather than a bad taste.
Hell some of the worst beers I have tried have been upmarket microbrews

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t get me wrong, if i get off the ice, I’m not looking for anything full bodied. I want a watery brew that’s crisp.

related, if i want to get university drunk, I’m not going to drink an entire 12 pack of steamwhistle, waste of good beer really.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, if I’m buying a beer to have with dinner, or on a tuesday night to sip on and watch the game, I go with something pricier and more flavourful, but if I’m buying a case to hangout with my friends and shoot pool or something I’ll just get whatever is cheapest in 28 form

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, question:

Say you’re going to be a nice guy and buy beer for your 6 buddies when they come over to watch the game, are you going to introduce them to your favourite microbrews or are you going to go with the 28 of bud with the free hat in it?

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

with the money I make? I buy a 28 of bud, if they bitch, fuck them it’s free beer
If i could afford it id buy my favorite micro, if they bitch? fuck them its free beer

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a buddy that complains when it’s not bud. he has high tastes

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people don’t like the taste of good beer.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Ex-buddy.

R.I.P. Habs playoff hopes for 2011-12.
And also, FCK LUCIC.
Did I mention the FLYRES ARE ASS?
And it's pronounced Kool-YO-meen, fool.

by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

bud tastes like fermented peanut shells. Nasty.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Also: Bud Lite’s slogan is “Are you in?”
Translate that to txtspeak and you get: “Ur in”
Which is delightfully the same thing as “Urine”

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Molson Canadian = ~37$ / 24
Big Rock (Alberta independent) = ~37$/24

It’s not a cost issue, as others pointed out. That’s false unless you buy like Lakeport garbage. It\s about brand. People just buy what they know, and are relatively risk averse on new kinds of beer.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

most big rock stuff i’ve tried is pretty generic

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

grasshopper’s tasty, there’s really nothing like it brewed in Canada. Although I will agree they have better stuff in Alberta proper….a good red pilsner and a nice lager.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Grasshopper too, the other Big Rock ones weren’t anything special IMO.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Warthog is as nice darker beer.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

and a Strange Brew ~

Case of Elsinore anyone ?

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by FLYERROB on Nov 25, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

our liquor stores are run by the government so no we dont get it unfortunately. We never get good US beer in Canada.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Big Rock is barely independent.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Err not independent. It obviously is, but its not like its a microbrew.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Compared to the big breweries, all independent breweries are essentially microbrews. I know what you mean and yeah, strictly speaking that’s true. But the big brewers control almost all the market.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I just drink what tastes good at a reasonable price. And I am generally very happy with the cheap stuff.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

free and free light are my two favourite beers.

by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 25, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

And...

69 cent a gallon Golden Glow.

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And also, FCK LUCIC.
Did I mention the FLYRES ARE ASS?
And it's pronounced Kool-YO-meen, fool.

by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the friends.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If it is someone who I know appreciates a good beer then I might introduce them to some good new beer, but if they don’t , then 28 of bud and I’m keeping the free hat.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Also depends on how many we’re planning on drinking, if I think the 28 will get finished in a night, cheap all the way.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

the free hat is key.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

also this, most of my friends would drink bud light all day and never complain and enjoy it to death
buta few of the others appreciate a good IPA or stout etc, so yeah

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

my friends, with a couple exceptions, drink good beer just as I do. I’d rather support a local outfit making a great product than a massive company spewing out crap. Or an evil one like Coors (crazy right-wing owners)

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. A 24 of generic brand beer in cans costs only $2 more for me than 12-pack bottles of Sleemans.

I’m a big fan of Sleemans, but the 2-4 of cans is usually a lot more bang for my buck.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 25, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually drank good beer when I did that. The hangovers from crappy beer are far, far worse.

Also, Asian beer brews with rice and they tend to be pretty decent. I’d rather a Tiger/Singha/Beer Lao than a Molson canadian anyday.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

break up drunk is the new hotness
waaayyy more drunk then university drunk

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

woah, break up drunk sounds like an adventure

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, it is

@phoking_awesome

by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing with beer though, is that when you’re “paying for the brand” you’re actually paying less than you are for a craft beer, unlike with things like clothes. You can get a 28 of Canadian or Budweiser for $38, but a 6 of most Ontario craft beers will cost you ~$13.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

24 of Big Rock is about 38$. Steam is a bit more expensive at ~41/42$. Not a massive difference, unless you normally buy 24 for 24s (which are now like 27$)

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes you are a snob.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

meh, I don’t consider caring about what I buy/drink to be snobbish, because by that standard I’m a snob at everything. If I’m going to do something, I like to do it right.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for beer standards.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm I’ve always wanted to check out Granite. They have enough TVs there for good hockey watching?

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, didn’t read your post all the way through. You got married at a brewery? Awesome.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They have two big screens in front of the bar, IIRC, and its not like its packed for sports. So you get good beer, and probably a front row seat on a TV or two.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Granite has some good home brews. Decent food, too! Their hoppy beer is great.

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They really have a nice niche, not many places make good english-style beer in Ontario. Mostly, it’s our own style which is influenced I think particularly by the Dutch/Germans and also Americans (don’t laugh, they do have some good beer if you look past the major ones). Ironic since our country was British founded, but we don’t do British beers that much, e.g. IPAs, malty beers and what not. That’s sort of changing, but we still prefer hoppier beers generally, which is what I would label part of the Dutch/Germany model.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate these headlines

Maple Leafs look for first win in Dallas since 2003 (from TSN)

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

better than “Maple Leafs haven’t won in Dallas in a DECADE”!

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The Maple Leafs look for their first win against the Cleveland Barons since 1978.

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

They do that to a lot of teams though, I’m not calling Leafs bias on this one.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

‘Inter-conference game of no real importance to happen’ not really much of a headline.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Today, the Maple Leafs will face some team from the South

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by Frag on Nov 25, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs are 1-0-0 against Dallas when they wear the Mooterus jersey. It is a shame for them those went defunct in 2006.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 25, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not calling bias, I just find the title annoying.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s ok before Tampa it was the Leafs haven’t won in Tampa since 2009

and now it’s Leafs haven’t won 7-1 in Tampa since tuesday.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

R.I.P. Habs playoff hopes for 2011-12.
And also, FCK LUCIC.
Did I mention the FLYRES ARE ASS?
And it's pronounced Kool-YO-meen, fool.

by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

/lol

R.I.P. Habs playoff hopes for 2011-12.
And also, FCK LUCIC.
Did I mention the FLYRES ARE ASS?
And it's pronounced Kool-YO-meen, fool.

by not norm ullman on Nov 25, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

fuck it . I do. Olympic gymnastics is fun to watch.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Korolev article was great. Good read, had fun. Worth it. Would read again.

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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 25, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

(semi) bold prediction

Tyler Seguin never wins another cup in his career.

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

WAAAAY TOO EARLY

Who knows what teams he’ll be with….

Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- There's a Loblaws on Carelton?!

That soft goal gave me a hard Colboner...

by TheNadger on Nov 25, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope,
its my prediction. That’s why its bold.
and I don’t have anything to base it on

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is overly bold.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I like your boldness, sir.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Can anyone tell me what a swagger move is in hockey?

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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 25, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Kris Versteeg chewing on his mouthguard.

or more seriously Pavel Datsyuk’s shootout moves.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Ribeiro’s through the legs tap in a couple years ago

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Flagged for thinking kris versteeg has swag

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, cuz I was watching the Bruins Detroit game and the announcer says a player did a swagger move

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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 25, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure US announcers really understand hockey

by Dr_Furious on Nov 25, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Swagger is related to sports through basketball. I guess anything goes in their search for ratings. Hockey swagger usually lands you on your ass if you exhibit too much.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

More NHL teams need to hire swagger coaches, like Justin Bieber.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

AKA Mr. Baggiest Pants Worn By Anybody From Stratford Despite Being The Whitest Kid Ever Before Becoming Famous

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

aka Mr. He’s making a list, he’s checking it twice, he’s making a list, he’s checking it twice, he’s making a list, he’s checking it twice.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The way phil kessel looks like he doesn’t give a shit, then goes and lights other teams up.

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by thenumber14 on Nov 25, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I just wanted Detroit to win in fucking regulation

by ShahofToronto on Nov 25, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

Detroit is going into a death spiral. Two years.

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Detroit’s players are almost eligible to receive OAS.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Datsyuk is still balls out redonkulous, though Lidstrom and Zetterberg are showing some age

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Zetterberg is only 31, Lidstrom SHOULD be showing his age by now.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

zetterberg should retire early to hang out with his ridiculously hot wife.

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap you’re right. Alot of hockey players seem to have hot wives.

by TheCeej on Nov 25, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in:
Beautiful women attracted to men with money.

News at 11.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful women attracted to men with money who look like Jared Leto.

by Peter Lynn on Nov 25, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Jared Leto is a turd.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Jared From London, however, is a gentleman and a scholar

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya but they JaredFromLondon guy in an internet tough guy who starts bar fights

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by leafer1984 on Nov 25, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone’s been day drinking today…

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 25, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know much about Jared Leto himself but I like 30 Seconds to Mars

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I know some things about him through friends and other sources. He’s an asshole who just loves to bang younger girls. Like many men? maybe, but I dont have to like manwhores.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I know much more horrible things about him: His band makes shit music.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful women attracted to men with money who look like Jared Leto.fromLondon

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yah, it’s about time Lidstrom slowed down, he wasn’t going to keep it up forever
but Zetterberg is fading, every time ive seen him this year he looks slower and more mistake prone

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a horrible giveaway on Boston’s second goal.

by ShahofToronto on Nov 25, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

3-2. this is what i get for starting rask, and benching fillpuka.

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it's finally becoming true...

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by Likely on Nov 25, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank God they fucking lost, even if it was in a SO.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Seconded. My girlfriend has been texting me after every Bruins win to remind me the Bruins have won lately. It will be a breath of fresh air to not get such a text today.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 25, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You should text her and ask…. “so… how did the Burins do?”

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by BlueBuds on Nov 25, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha, apparently Rask went nuts after the loss again

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

What is that dude’s deal

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

he is a nut job

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s a total loose canon.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

looking forward to the .gifs

by spoonie on Nov 25, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently it was just swearing down the tunnel and then a bunch of banging in the dressing room

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

BCWW.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

he speaks Dion? who knew.

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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 25, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sure looked like he was going nuts..
almost slammed his stick when the goal was scored, stormed to the room as fast as possible

by Ben Schnell on Nov 25, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

…eagerly awaiting the .gif

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Question: Why does EDM keep benching MPS?

Send that fucker down. I’d be outraged if they just kept healthy scratching Kadri every game. No way he’s waiver eligible.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

I want to trade for him

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

with who, Franson? That’s really the only asset “available” for trade that EDM would want.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

words for me, also a guy like Blacker + a pick might interest them

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta think they’d be asking for either Franson or Gardiner, some one ready to step into their lineup.

Gardiner should be on the Leafs list of untouchable prospects though. Kid looks gooooooood.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade Frason for MPS straight up anyways. Looking at his stats, he hardly impresses a lot. I admit I haven’t watched his play, so if someone could shed light on him that would be useful.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

MPS has untapped potential, no way what he is showing with EDM right now is all he is capable of, in saying that, I still would be hesitant to dump Franson for him… I kinda think Codys hould stick around here for a while.

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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 25, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Just not sure where that potential is. He did get ~34 pts in 70ish games last year, which is good for a rookie but his stats in other leagues don’t really jump out.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Careful judging a 21 year old by box car stats in the NHL alone. From what I’ve seen he is coming along at a similar pace to Kadri.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m watching Montreal-Philly and Couturier looks pretty good

by ShahofToronto on Nov 25, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Couturier was a fucking steal at #8 and everyone knows it.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn’t believe he fell to that. IMO it was silly on the part of everyone past about #3 to pass on him but thats just me…

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Jets went off the board and took Schiefele, as did the Sens with Zibanejad.. Stupid, stupid decisions.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 25, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Zibanejad was not off the board. Schiefele was but FWIW he is destroying in the O right now.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

can you imagine the damage couturier would be doing to the Q if he was there?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t improve from 2 years ago to last year.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

so? the fact that he is contributing at an NHL level is proof enough for me that he would destroy that league

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wrong too. He got the same amount of points last year as the year before, but he did it in 10 less games.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. We Know it !!! : )

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SUPER STEAL !!! and the FLYER TOTALLY LOVE COUTURIER !!

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by FLYERROB on Nov 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This game against the habs will be only time leaf fans may tolerate Giroux scoring.
And who is matt read?

by jeffgm on Nov 25, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in

Damien Cox is still a complete idiot. His the Spin today is atrocious. Yeah, the Pension plan is to blame for the Leafs not being “successful” since they became owners. It’s not, say, it’s a salary cap world where key players are locked down early and long-term, and the process of building a franchise takes long-term work improving depth as well as attracting talent when it (rarely) becomes available. Nope, that’s not it.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

The problem is you clicked on The Spin. That was a mistake. I read the headline and knew I would be pissed when I read that, so I didnt.

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by Frattinator on Nov 25, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, maybe I’m just a masochist or something. It was a bad idea all around.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Its so weird having so many games on in the middle of the day on a Friday.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

Friday, the new black saturday!

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by BlueBuds on Nov 25, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They were all blacked out for me.

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by Shield on Nov 25, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Toews just pickpocketed Getzlaf behind Hiller and set up Sharpe for a goal. Great play.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Jonas Hiller is killing my fantasy team

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the other fucker killing my fantasy team is Martin St. Loius took hi 6th overall

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That was an insane move. The man is 36.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

he had 90ish points three years in a row though

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

99, 94 the past two years

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But he is bound to disappear any year. At that age the risk is just too high.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.. i got giddy seeing 99 last year. i wonder what his other stats were like last year.

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

1019 PDO
2.50 Corsi
oZone start / finish exactly the same at 48.6

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

his P/60 is close this year. 2.74 – 2.39

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

PDO is actually higher this year at 1036

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ice time has gone up. his drop off is really weird.

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

How about on the power play?

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

im not sure where do find powerplay toi numbers

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Behind the net and NHL.com has it.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Err

Have it

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its his power play production. He has a 0.84 pts/60 vs 4.86

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

.84 p/60, 3.57 TOI/60 on the pp this year

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

4.86 P/60 in 4.22 TOI/60 last year.
wow his point production has dropped ALOT on the pp. That will come up almost guaranteed.

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

PDO on the PP is 955 this year

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He is still getting the time (a tad lower, but I think they are just drawing less penalties). He’ll bounce back but I still wouldn’t count on him to be a top 10 pick at his age.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Getzlaf...

-402 on the year now, thanks for helping my fantasy team out buddy

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

-402

thats a terrible plus minus

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My fantasy team agrees, I have won +/- once in like 8 weeks now

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

And that’s while having Shea Weber who is +400

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

ive lost plus minus every single week. i hate it

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

4 point period so far for him..

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy I’m playing this week has Toews. Even with the 4 point game I’m still beating him by 14 points.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like you have more depth

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of my team is around the 14-18 point range, James Neal has been my best player with 22 points but most guys fall in that range

I’ve just been fortunate to have Horcoff put up 4 points this week and Grabner/Ovechkin get 3 each. A bunch of other guys have 2.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually make that 12-18

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

And Hemsky had 3 points too!

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

1-1 Marlies in the 1st

Kadri has an assist on an Josh Engel goal

http://theahl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=1008914

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

kadri is actually tearing it up right now. i really want to see him with the big club

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Needs 1 more point tonight to be a ppg i think

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Kadri is shooting 2.9% in the AHL. Yikes.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya that’s pretty bad.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.. he’s not scoring but i think his NHL game will be more of the “playmaker’s” role anyways. he sets up some pretty plays

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s getting points as a playmaker, but he’s still shooting ~3 per game, so he is trying to score.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

so think about how many points he will be gettign when his shooting % normalizes
/swoooon

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he playing LW in the minors too?

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

thought I heard he was centre since Colbourne was up

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont think so, I think he’s winging Zigomanis

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm maybe he is switching around 1:20 mark
http://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=446&id=137275

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunno. Either way, he SHOULD be playing LW if that’s where he’s progressing in the bigs.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he can be a centre in the big leagues if he works for it, but that might be just me.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

according to today’s game sheet he’s playing centre but who knows

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt, we see that skill even at the NHL level… but I would like to see him score more. We’ve seen him do it before.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like 2-1 Stl

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

gah must have just happened as i was typing

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Kadri is playing in the A right now? Then why do NHL.com previews keep listing him as on the IR with a knee injury?

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

probably because he was sent down before he played in the NHL after he healed and no one thought to fix it

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

when he was sent down the first time he didn’t play a game and got called up and played three with leafs though

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by pho king awesome on Nov 25, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

/shrug

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Man whats going on with the Ducks this season

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

Ha thinking same thing

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Their D can’t control shots and the big 3 aren’t producing.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds about right

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet Selanne is STILL about a PPG

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Selanne rules

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I was offered Selanne for Grabner in a deep keeper dynasty league. I should have taken it because fuck Grabner

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What a tank.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think after his 2 point night tonight he actually is a PPG

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure he’ll be sitting at 21 in 22gp but I’m not 100% on that

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

for all intents and purposes thats PPG

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

They know I picked Getzlaf and Fowler and they want to ensure that I fail by going a collective -700 every game

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

giving bobby ryan an out to be traded to the leafs

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats nice of them

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

When are the vultures going to start circling the Ducks?

They are awful and have way too much talent up front.

Get on the phone Burke. Get a piece of that “best line in hockey”

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

Ryan

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan with Colboner…id like to see that

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Getzlaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Please

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

for that I’l trade some serious players.

by Goosemonster on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well NJ won, but we avoided some 3 point games with NY/WAS and PHI/MTL

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Hedberg got me a shutout to boot

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

islolnders

6 games getting shut out? 6 games getting shut out.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t we get shut out a lot last year? Or was it the year before?

Did we even hit 6 times?

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

last year

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

though I dont think we were at 6 game already

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It was last year before MGK got going.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Im sure Nail will love NY

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God. Plus, HAHAHABS

I honestly don’t care when PHI gets points anymore as they’re pretty much a playoff lock. Their offensive is dyn-o-mite and goaltending solid.

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Beginning of the season I figured it would be us, Carolina or Montreal in the 8th spot…since I couldn’t see one of those top teams falling. Things have gotten more interesting with Florida playing well, New Jersey not being terrible but Tampa falling. So really anything could happen at this point…other than the Islanders making it

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I predicted the bubble East teams to be Tampa, NYR, Car, us, Montreal, and NJ

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty accurate prediction so far

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This was my prediction

Washington Capitals
Boston Bruins
Pittsburgh Penguins*
Buffalo Sabres*
Philadelphia Flyers
New York Rangers
Tampa Bay Lightning
Montreal Canadiens
-————————————
Toronto Maple Leafs
Carolina Hurricanes
New Jersey Devils
Winnipeg Jets
New York Islanders
Ottawa Senators
Florida Panthers

So I was way off on Florida. Carolina and Washington are behind my prediction and Ottawa is ahead. Besides that I did pretty well.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Habs in over Leafs

Seeing that makes me cringe

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I was hedging my emotional bets.

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Gionta

Is a -5 this week. Fuck the Habs and Fuck Brian Gionta for being on the ice for every goal against and also for elbowing our saviour

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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 25, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Ugh…I guess we can’t count on Columbus to beat Buffalo for us can we

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

Only in hockey would a team down by 2 play so hard to score a goal with 8 seconds left. Awesome :)

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by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Watching the preview for the game on TSN, I can’t express how awesome it is to hear other teams taking the Leafs seriously. No more “they’re a solid, young team” or “they’re rebuilding, and have a lot of promising young guys” or “they are really going to compete”. Now it’s legitimate concern about the Leafs’ speed and how good Kessel and Lupul are. According to Dallas’ coach, the Stars’ game plan revolves around slowing down the Leafs’ dangerous speed, not just having their way with a crappy young pseudo-team.

It’s fantastic.

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Nov 25, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

booo
chansler Clayton Hansler
Kenny Ryan goes down. It’s hard to tell what happened. Trying to catch it on replay, but Ryan helped to the bench by the #Marlies trainer.

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

woooo
chansler Clayton Hansler
Nazem Kadri with a wrister from the high slot gets his second goal of the season and tied the game at two. #boomgoesthedynamite

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by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

NOW he’s a PPG

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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 25, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

/Burth’d

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit

In the Pittsburgh game there are 3 goals in 6 shots.

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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Nov 25, 2011 7:18 PM EST reply actions  

Dont mind the Jays ones in small doses but those Pens ones are awful

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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally I think they should switch all NHL jerseys should be red except the Leafs. That way it’s easier for children to learn which teams are evil (all 29 of them), and which team is good (Leafs).

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Don’t hate them at all. Think they are far superior to their other jerseys. Bring back the early 90’s Pen’s jerseys, now we are talking.

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL 4-1 pitt already..wow

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Bum can’t even score, Trade’em

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

chansler Clayton Hansler
Nazem Kadri just piling up the points. #Marlies take the lead after a scramble in front leads finally to a Toronto goal.

and

chansler Clayton Hansler
Kenny Ryan not on the bench for the #Marlies

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

chansler Clayton Hansler
Kenny Ryan back on the ice in the third period. #phew

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackets up 2-0 on Buff

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

The Jackets put Sanford in net and they start winning

by jeffgm on Nov 25, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Columbus beating Buffalo.
Winnipeg beating Carolina.
Pittsburgh continuing to make Ottawa cry delicious tears of fail.

Detroit beat Boston.
Philly beat the Habs.

Everything is well in the East, so far.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well after Wednesday was 3 point eastpocalypse day this is welcome news

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Now if the Leafs win and Canucks lose you’ll be ecstatic

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Even if I don’t get both, one will soften the blow of the other.

Less so if it’s the Leafs losing, though, as then I’ll have to deal with hordes of Canuckleheads doing their daily bandwagon shuffle.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Theyve won the last 2 but havent really looked dominant or anything…beating the sens and Avs really isn’t that impressive

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was really torn by that game. While the Canucks losing to the Sens would be hilarious, I don’t want the Sens to keep forgetting that they suck.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

4-1 after 1 right now, I think they are starting to remember!

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

good on Buffalo

Any team that has that dirty head-butting Kaleta and scrum sucker punching Gaustad desrve to suck. I hate Bufflao and wish thm nothing but misery.

by Jack rides ducks on Nov 25, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and yes

I loved it when Lucic ran over Miller. HAHA! Scew you Buffalo!

by Jack rides ducks on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you’re an idiot.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ignoring the pecking at each other, running a goalie who is basically unprotected and unprepared is pretty scummy, I don’t care who is in net and what team they play for

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

When Miller comes back

I hope Chara freight trains him onto the LTIR for the rest of the season.

by Jack rides ducks on Nov 25, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

now you’re just trying to be a shit disturbing prick

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so how many times did ryan miller bang your mom?

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not as much as I

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s actually what the ’07 Sens were doing instead of playing in the SCF.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This one is not half bad lol

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He wishes that Miller hit that as many times as he did? What, is there a Buy 10 Get One Free club?

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Switch the numbers around and you got it.

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by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

if he fills his punch card he gets a free foot long assorted sub

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that PPP has Your Mom Joke threads that are longer than other teams’ entire GDTs.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

the mom jokes are pretty stale

by Jack rides ducks on Nov 25, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

just like the bread on the free assorted sub I got with my punch card, they always cheap out on the free swag

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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 25, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

IT’S THE NORTHEAST BABY!!!!!!!!

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda like an exchange program. “Give A Footlong, Get A Footlong!”

"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton

by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

So SPERO only got a chili bun?

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s because he didn’t dig deep, give 110% or win the battles in the corners.

"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton

by AM18 on Nov 25, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Aaaaand we have a winner.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

We have a Wiener!

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the rest of do, anyways.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol…….no……(cries)

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

So running goalies is okay as long as they’re not nicknamed after Transformers?

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The NHL needs to do something to protect the goalies. A trend seems to be coming. Look at Gus the other night.

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I fell this way about 95% of the teams

When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.

by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate Boston significantly more.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Nov 25, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The NE division is weird. It has the Leafs and four scum-sucking, dirty, cheating, despicable and/or laughably failing teams. I find it odd that no other division has that same concentration.

by LeafInVancouver on Nov 25, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

IT’S THE NORTH EAST BABY!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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by SPERO on Nov 25, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

4-0 Columbus over Buff!

by TheDeek on Nov 25, 2011 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Letestu is looking like a nice pickup for the jackets

by jeffgm on Nov 25, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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