Happy Anniversary, Brian!
by JP Nikota on Nov 29, 2011 7:03 AM EST
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It was exactly three years ago today that the Toronto Maple Leafs current President and General Manager Brian Burke was hired. That's when the H.M.S. Toronto Maple Leafs began its change of tack, from signing aging veterans in order to squeak into the playoffs, to acquiring younger players and prospects, with the hope of building a real contender. OK, so maybe this was 'coming about', more than it was just change of tack.
The first two years under Burke took Leafs fans through some of the darkest times in the history of the franchise, but the light at the end of the tunnel is looking a lot brighter these days, writes James Mirtle:
They have, in short, become the exciting team Burke promised when he was introduced as GM exactly three years ago – even if flaws remain in their game.
The Leafs also look remarkably like a group that will be playing meaningful hockey in April, whether it’s to clinch a playoff spot or finally, unbelievably, play in the postseason for the first time since 2004.
Well, here's hoping. That's a lot of big talk, but I do think there's something of a collective whisper amongst Leafs fans that is starting to gather confidence. I'm not willing to say what I'm thinking very loudly - yet.
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Leafs Links:
Leafs Vs. Stars Scoring Chances
The Kessel line got torched in this one at EV. Easily their worst game, in terms of scoring chances, though of course, Bozie did get one on the PP. As you can probably guess by now, this link is to my own work at The Leafs Nation.
Leafs Vs. Lightning Scoring Chances
Sometimes you don't beat an opponent so much as you annihilate every remaining speck of their competitive spirit.
Marlies Take Two in St. John’s, Stay atop North Division
Kyle The Reporter has a few notes on the games. Keep up with your Marlies.
More on Gustavsson—what do "stats" really tell us?
Michael Langlois with a vote of confidence for Jonas Gustavsson. My own opinion? Let's have more Ben Scrivens.
Leafs Prospect Update
Justin Fisher at Hogtown Hockey has notes on Marcel Mueller, Mark Owuya, and Brad Ross.
Marlies Vs. Griffins Preview
From Jeffler at MarliesHQ.
Other Hockey Links:
The Most Important Twenty Games of the Year
It's a debatable whether or not this is true, but if it is, it's good news for the Leafs. From Tyler Dellow.
Shanahan: Letang assumed risk, Max Pacioretty suspended 3 games
Greg Wyshynski at PD has video and quotes from Shanahan.
HBO’s 12 Minute "24/7: Road to the Winter Classic" Teaser
Via Justin Bourne at Backhand Shelf. Hope this year's version is as great as last year's. One thing I noticed about this teaser: the absence of all the awesome music they had last year.
Downward spirals cost NHL coaches their jobs
Unless you've been in a coma for the last 24 hours, this isn't news to you. But, in the event that you have been, Boudreau and Maurice got canned.
Nation Radio
Don't be put off by the football logo at the beginning, Lowetide always has good hockey talk on the docket. From The Leafs Nation.
Ryan Miller isn’t sure Milan Lucic concussed him anymore
...which, ironically, is possibly a sign that he did? All kidding aside, it's true that initial pronouncements on injuries may affect Shanahan's handling of supplemental discipline. From Greg Wyshynski.
Video: Adirondack Phantoms ‘Built This’ hilarious ode to 1980s
Great video. Link from Greg Wyshynski.
Russian star Yakupov pegged to go No. 1 in NHL draft
Darren Yourk reports on a player that the Leafs won't draft, but also won't have to worry about another team drafting with their draft pick.
Old School Video Game Review: NHL 97 for Sega
Loved this game. It was probably second only to NHL '94 for me. From Dirty Dangle.
Fun with PDO
At AIH, Gabe Desjardins has more on shot location.
Bruce Boudreau firing makes no sense
Hawerchuk - like Justin Bourne - isn't a big fan of mid-season firings. From AIH.
Which teams exhibit numerical warning signs 1/4 way through the season?
The Leafs' have some poor-looking Fenwick numbers, but they're not mentioned here by Cam Charron at Backhand Shelf.
Backhand Shelf Podcast: EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING, Coach-swap Edition
From Justin Bourne and Rob Pizzo at Backhand Shelf.
The New York Rangers Winter Classic Jersey, Unveiled
I'm not a jersey nerd, but holy cow, those things are nice. From Justin Bourne at Backhand Shelf.
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I’m happy 24/7 is back, i’m, not happy I don’t have HBO this year.
Now that they’ve founded NHL Original Productions, I’d love to see a 24/7 style doc on the year leading up to the Draft, focusing on a few players, some predicted to go high, others who are just in their draft year and don’t know what to expect.
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That’s a pretty great idea, to be honest.
I also want them to produce one-hour documentaries about classic playoff series.
Like the 2002 Islanders/Maple Leafs series, for instance.
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That series was amazing in every way. FUck Steve Webb
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by leafer1984 on Nov 29, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Not sure why this hasn’t been Rec’d yet
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, there are so many options now. Hell Maybe if the Real Sports network gets off the ground MLSE can start Real Sports productions and do it themselves.
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If they ever managed to do a 24/7 for the Cup Final, I’d be amazed. That’s pretty much the sacred cow of the NHL
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I was at a Blue Jays game with my dad during game seven of that series. Not surprisingly, there were hardly any fans in the stands. One of the guys sitting in front of me was watching the Leafs game on a little portable TV. They showed replays of the Leafs game up on the Jumbotron. The Blue Jays lost that game, but it didn’t matter because the Leafs won their series. I also ended up with a Spider-Man T-shirt (which was shot up into the stands with one of those shirt guns). A guy sitting in front of me got the shirt, but he didn’t want it so he gave it to me.
That was my favourite playoff series of my lifetime. People nearly died!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
or the 93 Leafs/Kings
just because I need a reason to throw something through my current TVs screen so I can justify buying a new one
Why would you need HBO – NHL torrents man. Just google it. HD stuff and all.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 29, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
’cause my bandwidth limit from cogeco is shit.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
ah. Good reason. That show isn’t really worth watching in anything but HD so youtube is also out of the questions since the 720 versions rape bandwidth too…
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
WHY IS THERE NOTHING HERE ABOUT BOBBY RYAN BEING SHOPPED?AAAAAAAGUH!
ASDAVSDVSDF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGH!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 7:42 AM EST reply actions
You’re right, this is both terrifying and exciting news
by Casey_bat on Nov 29, 2011 7:48 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Clearly Burke is suppressing rumours
That way he is keeping the bidding war down. D’uh!
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Nov 29, 2011 8:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As soon as either Wyshynski or Bourne writes it.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
Low blow, I know.
I went for the easy joke, backhand shelf. Ended up whiffing like so much Craig Smith.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not getting my hopes up as I don’t see the Leafs trading for him
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eh, I was just joking anyways, but still. Burke is going to be interest and see what it would cost
he will most likely be out bid / price will be too high etc
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
well, Anaheim likes the players we don’t want anymore…so whats this years equivalent of Toskala/Blake?
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I think the issue will be cap space. The Leafs don’t have any and Anaheim wont take much back
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Ryan 5.1 mill per
Kulemin + Grabbo = 5.25 + flexibility
not saying that would get it done, just that salary could potentially work for both sides
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
RIght, but I’m fairly certain Anaheim wants to get rid of the salary as well as the player.
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I think they are currently hunting for depth/ futures
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
COrrect. If they were to make any trade with the leafs I think Schenn, Kulemin, Kadri, Aulie, Franson will be involved.
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For Bobby Ryan? I’d pack any one or two of their bags.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
I would trade Kulemin and Kadri for him in a heartbeat. Would Anaheim? I doubt it
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If he really is being shopped there are probably plenty of good offers.
All I can hope is that Burke is kicking tires as hard as he can.
It’s kind of like the Jeff Carter situation – Burke was in on it, but could he beat Voracek + 8th overall? Probably not.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I’d log onto PPP and talk about how much I liked the trade.
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OH SNAP
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll admit, I freaked out a bit.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
BOBBY RYAN
FOR BRIAN BURKE ANNIVERSARY GIFT
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think if he did that we’d have to marry him or something.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Bobby? Or Brian?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Both if the Supreme Court allows polygamous marriage. If not, just Brian.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
The next thing you know, they’d start allowing people to marry in non-whole numbers, like 2.5, and then even in irrational numbers. Slippery slope.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
NHL12 says MacA + 2012 1st + 2012 2nd gets it done… (the fake Anaheim GM said that their fans would dance in the streets when they announce that deal)… of course, I play without a salary cap, and with no shootouts… It’s my fake NHL, I can do whatever I want!
Why is it consistently Ryan who shows up in the rumours? Why not Perry/Getzlaf, who would also net huge returns?
In a vacuum, shouldn’t Anaheim be hanging on to Ryan, since he’s younger (albeit only slightly)?
All I’m saying is that this makes me suspicious.
by stevesmith19 on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
because getzlaf and perry are better?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
because Getzlaf is the captain and good luck find a big talent center anywhere and because Perry just won the Hart
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Getzlaf 100% agree. But Perry would be a case of selling high, a la Halak.
by stevesmith19 on Nov 29, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Getzlaf is also having a down year, as my fantasy team would attest. Anaheim would get the most for Perry, which is probably why they don’t want to let him go.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
He may be having a down year but the guy is a hitting and PIM machine.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Nov 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure that Perry should be more valuable. Today he probably is because he got the heart last year, but Bobby Ryan seems to have out produced him at the same age…
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I have to agree when good players go too easily
Though the same could be said for Phaneuf. That being the case; do you think Franson / Kadri and a pick might do it? One gets the sense there are potentially some attitude issues (more understandable with Franson perhaps). Especially with Kadri, ‘entitlement’ is not what Burke or Wilson particularly want to see or let enter the dressing room.
by The Blue Spirit on Nov 29, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would never trade a player like Kadri given there are “potential attitude issues” when he’s PPG in the AHL. I think he’ll battle through, it’s been relatively tough for him with an early injury, not getting a spot on the Leafs etc. he’s showing that he deserves to be here and he will be up sometime.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
“One” doesn’t get an accurate sense of Kadri’s attitude. One gets the media’s sense of Kadri’s attitude. Burke, Nonis, and Poulin have been fairly vocal about wanting to establish a certain hardworking culture in the AHL club, and if Kadri were to be half the cocky egomaniac that MSM has published, he’d probably on his way out. Until we see that or some sort of enlightening event, crap about Kadri’s reputation and attitude is just speculation.
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thank you, you said it better than me. he’s a really talented player, I can’t wait to see him up here full time next year.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
OK, let's back up, here.
The media haven’t made him out to be an ‘egomaniac’, that’s hyperbole on your part. But when an 18 or 19 year-old kid comes out and says to the media “I’m going to make this team”, they’re going to take the ‘cocky’ angle every time.
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No, because the Leafs can’t absorb Ryan’s cap hit without moving sufficient salary the other direction
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t Armstrong, Komi and Lombardi on IR free up a ton of space?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
They are coming back, and no, not that much.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know why people think Kadri has “entitlement” issues.
Also I think Anaheim wants defensive defenseman and based on age I think that means Schenn or Gunnar.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Nov 29, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
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i am so disappointed in all of you
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t worry cause my wallet’s fat
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Re: Ryan rumours
I just have a feeling that the price that Anaheim is putting up for him will be too high for us. As awesome as Ryan is, I’m really not comfortable giving up guys like (for example) Schenn, Aulie, and a draft pick, when our offence has already been producing well. We just have more pressing needs in other areas right now, and as nice as it would be to have, I’m not convinced that the price will be right for a guy like him.
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Imagine Phil Kessel.
Now imagine having another guy on the Leafs that can produce like Phil Kessel and is the same age.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
The Leafs have more pressing needs than a proven 30+ goal scorer?
You think they’ll keep shooting at 11.5% all season or in future seasons? Think about the long term here. 24 year old proven goal scorer. How often do they become available?
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Not very often, but we definitely aren’t at a point yet where we can give up a ton of our young talent for one proven goal scorer, no matter how good he is. Sticking to the plan and developing the young talent that we have already is much more important, since we’re not good enough to be trading our future core players for a proven goal scorer just to make a Cup run. The time isn’t right.
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Yes, we are.
We gave up 2 huge draft picks for Phil Kessel. I don’t hate that trade anymore.
Also, this isn’t just for a Cup run. Ryan is locked in for 4 more years.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
The list of things I would not trade for Bobby Ryan are as follows: Phil Kessel, Dion Phaneuf. End of list.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Atta kid
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Pretty much.
Although I’d be upset to lose Colborne just when he’s looking great.
With Burke’s trading history he’ll probably trade Lupul back for Ryan.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to hold onto Kadri/Colborne but that’s because we have a few good D coming through our depth charts and not as many forwards with that skill level. But to get Ryan, we’d have to give up one of these guys, I’d like to think.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Which is what worries me, because defence and goaltending are our most pressing issues at the moment IMO.
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who needs those two when you can score 5 goals a game with Ryan and Kessel?
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Defence wins championships guys.
To set the record straight, obviously I like Bobby Ryan and would love him to come to Toronto. The price is the only thing that worries me, especially since Schenn would probably be the forefront of that deal (and I happen to love the guy, and not just because of his good looks)
I would definitely be all for a Bobby Ryan for Grabbo, Kule, and Aulie scenario.
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Luke Schenn is not an elite, shut-down defenseman. There. I said it. I feel better now.
now in saying that, he’s a VERY GOOD D man. and I wouldn’t want to see him go unless we have a contingency plan (healthy Komisarek)
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
People keep forgetting this. That’s why I wouldn’t move him. Gunnar has been really, really sold. But his value is sky-high and he could be moved for a good player as part of a package.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I’m on the not yet bandwagon. I just have a feeling that Schenn is going to be very key for our defence for years to come, and that moving him would be a mistake. I’d be more comfortable with moving Gunnarsson
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you are undervaluing Gunnar
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Oh don’t get me wrong, I think Gunnar’s fantastic, but IMO Schenn > Gunnar as far as upside and potential are concerned.
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gunner is better than schenn offensively and defensively right now, schenns max potential probably only sees him surpassing him defensivly
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s worth noting that Gunnarsson hasn’t done much offensively this year though
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Because he’s sliding into Beauchemin’s role just chewing up minutes against the other teams’ top lines.
Also he’s let Dion roam free.
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I actually don’t care if Gunnar scores another point all season (sort of), as long as he keeps performing well in that role.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn has been absolutely brutal this season.
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He’s been much much better in the last 10 games or so, at least from what I remember
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yup, he’s been a workhorse lately. Since that benching more or less.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
He’s been getting insane goaltending behind him. His PDO is 1046.
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His SA/60 numbers are the second worst in the NHL so far.
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Was he getting shitty goaltending/luck before?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
He’s had .937 behind him so far this season at 5v5. For comparison, Phaneuf has gotten .893 behind him.
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But the most troubling numbers are the shots allowed. The Leafs should not be playing Gardiner and Schenn together.
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Okay
He’s been brutal this year and having some good luck. But he’s been visibly better lately and that’s a good sign at least.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I won’t give up on a 21 year old top 4 D-man, guy is going to be a centre piece of our team for years to come.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Aren’t they playing in front of the same goalies? I don’t get it. If the save percentage is lower for Phaneuf doesn’t that mean he’s on the ice for a greater percentage of goals against?
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
He’s this year’s Aulie?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to say it
Schenn is over valued on this board.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Nov 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is correct. He’s been pretty much as bad as Komisarek this year.
by theninjagreg on Nov 29, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine having those two playing 25 minutes a night each. Imagine if we did move Kulemin in the deal and we were rolling Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, Ryan-Connolly-MacA?
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Don’t say things like that, I’ll get too attached to the very unlikely prospect of us getting Ryan and smothering the competition.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I think we’re all getting a little too excited… this is what happens when we have dumb back-to-back weekends and then 1 game in 4 days.
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the scheduling so far this year has been particularly bad….those back to back Saturday to Sunday (5pm) games? Retarded, it’s just setting a team up to lose.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
But we just can’t stop winning
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine if that Carolina game had been on the Monday instead, we would have definitely won.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ1e1270vrk
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See I disagree, I’m worried about the defensive depth of this team. Im not that high on Holzer and after that its really only Blacker.
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He’s still in the OHL for the next 2 years.
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Mikus, Percy, Franson (still quite young and RFA), we have quite a few good young guys coming up through the ranks. Only thing I don’t do is trade more than 1 prospect defenceman. To be honest, I can live without Aulie if it gets us Ryan, but I doubt Burke wants to part with him. Nor Schenn. It would have to be Franson or the like. Ducks also have a lot of defensive depth coming up, so they probably want a forward….Kadri, Colborne, etc.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
the ducks do not need offensive D prospects, it is like the last thing they need, they will not want one unless he is doughty good for bobby ryan
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
we have quite a few good young guys coming up through the ranks
Who is on the farm that can be anything more than 5-6 d-men other than Blacker and maaaaaybe Aulie?
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Percy? Blacker and Aulie count. That’s 3, even if one is longer-term. Aulie has top 4 potential.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Percy isn’t on the farm team
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
They have top 4 potential and Aulie is on the low end of that. The Leafs dont have many top quality defensive prospects.
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But Schenn and Gardiner only being 21 helps, even if they’re not really qualifying as “prospects” by many anymore.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Gardiner still qualifys as a prospect; he’s played like 25 career pro games.
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Right and he is still in the NHL. What if he gets hurts who replaces him, Holzer? The dropoff between the AHL and NHL quality players is substantial is all I’m trying to say.
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pretty much any other time id be right there with you, but for a locked up Bobby Ryan?
yeah, i take that risk
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll make my position very clear.
I really don’t give a shit about this year’s playoffs. If the Leafs make it with the roster largely intact, that’s fantastic.
But I don’t want short-term moves to solidify a playoff spot THIS YEAR at the expense of continuing to build something of substance.
I put a potential Bobby Ryan trade into the latter category. Although the more we talk about, the more furious I am with Colorado for not learning our lesson about trading first-rounders when your team is in limbo. Because they handed the Caps the trump card for virtually every big-name on the trade market.
And the mere thought of Ryan to the Caps is fucking terrifying.
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Ugh can you imagine they traded Semin + one of their 2012 1sts?
Game fucking over.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Is it possible to hand a team a ‘free Stanley Cup’ coupon before the New Year?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ovie – Backstrom – Ryan?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t see Semin being involved in that deal because he makes more than Ryan and he’s a UFA.
They’d definitely send the Avs’ first, and probably a couple of their prospects.
Something like Colorado’s first, Eakin & Orlov?
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yeah my guess is Anaheim doesn’t want an underperforming expensive UFA winger.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
They owe Bobby Ryan like $20M vs. Semin at a pro-rated 6.7M
It would be a huge salary shed if they expect him to walk UFA.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I could see them sending their own first Johansson Shultz
that avs pick is liquid gold
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
It’s their trump card in any bidding war.
What are the odds a 5th overall pick becomes half as good as bobby Ryan?
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that pick has a pretty good chance of being yakupov
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
The funny part of this is now that Burke is on twitter, Leafs fans have likely been bombarding him with demands to trade for Ryan.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I only included Semin as I figured they would need to shed salary to fit Ryan under their cap.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
most likely they’d move Semin to do it.
Either way. It’s Bobby Ryan. Do the damn thing.
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How Burke could beat out any offer from WSH is beyond me.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Washington wouldn’t necessarily give up the Avs pick. You can say they are in win now mode, but a shot at Yakupov might be to much to pass up.
They don’t have any control over that.
Go back to the summer and tell a Caps fan they have the chance to turn Varlamov and a prospect or two into Bobby Ryan.
You won’t get an answer because they’ll be too busy dancing in the street.
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That doesn’t make any sense.
The Caps were never in a position where they were expecting to get Yakupov.
Varly and prospects for Bobby Ryan? How do you pass that up for the slim chance you get Yapukov?
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Could be a #1 pick if Colorado finishes low enough. Which is very possible.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think Varly and the utter atrocity of Columbus will keep them out of the #1 spot. But it’ll be a top-10 pick, maybe top-5.
If the difference in getting Ryan or not is Colorado’s 1st, I make that trade. I’d rather take the sure thing in Ryan than hold out til June for a maybe. Actually, two maybes because A: you don’t know what spot the pick will be B: you don’t know who the player will be
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
The Caps were never in a position where they were expecting to get Yakupov.
They aren’t far away now. And there are other really good looking players in this draft.
If it is just Colorado’s pick, than maybe. But if it is more than that I could see them holding the pick.
a) Is Yakupov a slam dunk to be better than Ryan? I have my doubts.
b) Can the Caps waste 2-3 years of Ovi’s prime waiting for yakupov to be able to contribute what Ryan can over the same period? No.
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Yakupov could very well buy them 10 more years of super quality player.
Like I said, if it was just the pick then maybe they do it (they probably do). But is it more?
And does Anaheim even want the pick, because if they move Ryan for nothing but futures they are going to finish in that range anyway.
I think having two picks that high is uh, probably a good thing. Especially in a draft that’s reportedly as deep as this one is made out as being.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
if the ducks had both theirs AND the Avs pick, they could pull a Burkie and draft Galchenyuk AND yakupov
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
How’s that whole thing been workin’ out for Vancouver, anyways?
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
the Sedins are pretty boss
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Its not Varlamov anymore. That pick has the value of that pick.
Though I do agree with you that you make that trade. I see nothing that says that Yakupov will be any better than Ryan.
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Ryan didn’t score 100 points in the OHL until he was in his 4th season and was 19
Yakupov scored 101 as a 17 year old rookie
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Daigle scored 100pts in his first year of junior.
I’m not arguing that Ryan is better, but that no draft pick is a “sure thing”, even if they’re almost one.
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oh I know, just saying that you can use that to argue that maybe Yakupov might have more skill than ryan
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Thats a fair argument. He may be better. But I don’t think its a slam dunk. Ryan was a number 2 overall pick who is living up to being a number 2 overall pick.
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yeah, which is why it woudn’t just be that pick for Ryan, it would also include say prospect and Schultz
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan was a number 2 overall pick (right behind Crosby) for a reason. Couturier got roughly the same at 17. He is good, but I wouldn’t be he’ll be better than Ryan.
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Couturier was also projected to go top 3 for the longest time, even spent some time at #1 I believe.
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dont get it twisted, so would I.
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I’d say that Gardiner is still a prospect. Dude’s still under 25 games.
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god damnit this post of mine keeps showing up as an unread one, and it has no text now…
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tthis one too. Damn I broke PPP for me.
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That was happening to me yesterday. After breaking the board last week with that whacky strikeout effect … I just kept my mouth shut. ;-)
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In the AHL
We have Blacker (higher upside needs more seasoning), Aulie (I think is overrated due to his poor mobility), Holzer (I think you under value), and Mikus (long shot).
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Pretty much, probably James Reimer too though
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t like the idea of trading away our only decent goaltender when we don’t have much of value in the system and the free agent pool in 2012 blows
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
910 goaltending is easier to find than bobby ryans
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
True, but would Anaheim even want Reimer when they have Hiller? Hiller is better, just having an off-year
I’d just be reluctant to do it with our goaltending history
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
So are defensmen. We have our #1 (Dion) and when the team is good we’ll be able to bring in plenty of Michalek, Beauchemin and Hamhuis types. Luke Schenn on the move.
I love Schenn
But I’d rent a private jet to ship his ass down to Anaheim if it got us Bobby Ryan in return
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Leafs found one this year for the first time since Eddie. It isnt that easy
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easier, not particularly easy
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
It isn’t easy at all. But it’s not easy to get #2 overall picks either.
I don’t think Burke would consider Reimer in the discussion – especially since it’s not really Anaheim’s most pressing need.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Anaheim’s most pressing need right now it looks like is scoring depth. Watching that game on Sunday, the Ducks only ever got any chances in the Leaf zone when Getzlaf’s line was on the ice. The rest of the time, they were getting penned in by the Leafs’ fourth line. THE FOURTH LINE.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
They have “Best goalie in the draft” John Gibson.
Why would they want Reimer?
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by clrkaitken on Nov 29, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t see the Ducks wanting a but load of D either
they’d want Schenn (or if there were significant offensive pieces going there Aulie)
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
No I think any deal starts with Schenn.
Their defence is fucking awful. Visnovsky and Fowler are all offence guys, and I’m not particularly high on Luca Sbisa.
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that would sting, im pretty emotionally attached to schenn now after3 and a bit seasons…
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Someone said like a year ago that Schenn for Ryan would really cement the OLAS thing: He died for our top 3 forward group.
by samspade on Nov 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Would you break up Kessel-Lupul to play him with Ryan?
I would if it meant a second line of Lupul-Connolly-MacArthur
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I’d put him wherever he can score lots of goals.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Depending on who we move, we could run two fhouirstond lines.
Seriously though, say it’s Schenn + Kulemin, you can run three scoring lines with Ryan.
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Connolly/Macarthur – Grabbo – Ryan
These are your big ones. You could perhaps even through Armstrong up with Ryan and Grabbo and have that be our power vs power line.
Then you have a sheltered one made up of:
Frattin / Connolly / Colborne / Macarthur / Kadri / Armstrong / Lombardi / Crabb
They can have Schenn, because it probably means they won’t get Gardiner or Colborne and I’d rather have those two.
I’d like to keep Schenn to be honest. Rather part with Aulie.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
no duh, but the ducks would rather have schenn
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Of course, I just don’t think we move Schenn given Burke signed him to a long-term deal (long-term in Burke’s world).
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I could also live with Gunnar moving as opposed to Schenn. I know the flaming will begin….now.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t really want to trade our only decent defensive LD right now but I would if that’s what it took
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Burke also probably never thought Bobby Ryan might be available
he would trade Schenn for Ryan in a heartbeat if the rest of the price was right
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Gunnarsson’s not a “name” defenseman. Maybe because Anaheim and Toronto make so many trades they’re more familiar with the Toronto roster, but I bet Gunnarsson’s value across the league is understated because he isn’t well-known enough
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
only among the bad GM’s
if a good portion of Leaf fans can figure out his value, I am sure 20+ teams of people paid big bucks to study the game and its players and build teams can too
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I would trade Schenn before Gunnar. But you do realize that (a) anywhere but this site everyone would agree with you and (b) before this season everyone would agree with you.
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But the chances of that happening are very small. They will most definitely want Schenn, that’d have to be the centrepiece of the deal
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For a team that has a lot of depth problems, we could basically rebuild their entire bottom six. It wouldn’t be the whole deal, but it would have to be a little attractive to Anaheim. They’ve got a 2-points-in-20 GP 19 year old playing 10 minutes a night.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
For what it's worth
We’ve got a 4-points-in-21 GP 23 year old playing 13 minutes a night. Though I guess that makes him twice as good.
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It’s not a knock on the player himself, I just don’t know a lot of teams that’re thinking “66 points in 67 OHL games his third year? forget his overage and AHL time! We need to get that kid on the team!”
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’d balk a bit at throwing in our 2012 1st, depending on what else was in said package
this draft is going to be insane, I just feel it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Alex Galchenyuk has knee surgery and still hasn’t played a game this year. He’ll fall (hopefully to us).
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by happiergilmore on Nov 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’ll drop to 30th
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I’d be hesitant to move Gardiner and Colborne as well, but yeah, pretty much
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Gardiner, Colborne and Percy.
Have anyone else you want.
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I’m assuming you didn’t include Kessel and Phaneuf out of the sheer obviousness
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they have no need for Percy or Gardiner (else they wouldnt have traded him in the 1st place) so im not too worried bout that
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
James Reimer…?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't hate that trade either
But when names like Schenn, Aulie, and Grabbo/Kuli are being thrown around, those aren’t just simple draft picks, those are (with the exception of Aulie) proven NHL players. I just don’t think that we’re in a good enough position to give up those types of players for just one guy.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have him here, but I just think the price is too much for us at the moment.
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I would trade both Kulie and Grabbo for Ryan right this second
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
And Schenn and Aulie?
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Not all 4. No one said to trade all 4
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right, that would be an insane over payment, plus an ass ton of salary moving to the ducks which makes it impossible
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn + Kulemin seems like a solid deal for Ryan + someone like Foster
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by birky on Nov 29, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its a solid trade for TML, not Anaheim
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The real question is – does the coach go before the players?
Seems to be the trend so far.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
That seems like not a terrible trade for Anaheim either. The downgrade to Kulemin, but he’s still a 20-25 guy and plays well at both ends. And they pick up a 2nd pairing RD in Schenn who’s owed less than his remaining cap hit the rest of his contract.
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Problem with any trade involving Schenn is that it’s rumoured that Anaheim is trying to shed salary.
Kulemin + Schenn = Ryan’s salary.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Ryan is making $5.6m over the next 3 seasons, but his cap hit is only $5.1m. Schenn’s cap hit is $3.6m, but is only making $3.35 for the next 4 seasons. There’s a bit of financial gain there for Anaheim.
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Maybe a bit, but Kulemin is going to be getting a raise at the end of the season… they have to factor that in.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Burke doesn’t seem like the guy to sign Schenn to a long-term deal then trade him. I’d call him a near-untouchable, given Burke’s comments in the past.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Burke doesn’t seem like the guy to sign Schenn to a long-term deal then trade him
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a good point. If Schenn is untouchable though, who else would ANA want? If their needs are on defence, guys like Gardiner or Aulie might be on the move in place of Schenn
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We’re also not moving Gardiner. I think Aulie or Gunnar would be their next guy, but they may not want a defenceman from us but rather some forwards. I know their defense sucks but they have a lot of depth coming up there.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
I’d be okay with a Grabbo/Kule/Gunnar scenario
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Too much salary going back to Anaheim there, it won’t work
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
That could work
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As long as the pick isn’t our 2012 first, sure
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Even if it is, it’s not going to be top 15.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
That draft is going to be batshit crazy though and we’ve traded away enough firsts lately
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough, I’d rather it be a second. Just not sure it gets it done.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure he has traded a player within 4 months of signing them before. I can’t think of anyone off the top o fmy head, but hopefully someone else can.
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Their C depth is poor and old. I wonder if something like Schenn + Grabbo would interest them.
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Schenn + Aulie, sure
Take any two players other than Kessel, Phaneuf, and Reimer and pack their freaking bags
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to hold onto Schenn. Aulie I can part with. he even comes with a lower price tag, which may be useful for Anaheim.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Except he’s not nearly as good. He’s not as good right now, and I have doubts he will ever be as good.
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Aulie is also overrated by many on this board.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Yes but also Phaneuf. Only because he is so good that no one can properly appreciate his awesomeness
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Hmmm...
I don’t know enough about our prospects (Holzer, Mikus, et al). Liles is what he is and Gardiner is getting a lot of hype. That only leaves Komi (sigh) and Franson who, while much maligned right now, I think most recognize he has upside.
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I know this is just you’re opinion and everyone’s opinion is valid, but you’re wrong.
Bobby Ryan IS a proven player. This isn’t some prospect.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
A Ryan deal is worth:
Bobby Ryan + low level roster player for 2nd liner + top 4 defenceman + prospect
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Kulemin is a poor man’s Bobby Ryan.
Grabbo’s 27 and there’s no guarantee he’s here next year anyway.
Aulie may or may not ever get there.
Schenn is not good enough to prevent the Leafs from acquiring Bobby Ryan.
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by clrkaitken on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
All of this.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Kulemin or Grabbo? See ya.
I love Kulie, but if we had Bobby Ryan to take his place then whatever. Grabbo is coming up to UFA and we finally seem to have enough centre depth/skill that we could lose him.
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I’d trade Kulemin + Grabbo for Bobby Ryan in less than a heartbeat
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
On their own it would be no question, but I would think they would be salary going along with something like a 1st and a prospect.
Though you can argue they want to dump salary and not take any one, Grabbo is a UFA after this season so that gives them room for the offseason. Teams seem to like taking expiring contracts.
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Exactly. I’m pretty sure Grabbo + Kulie’s cap hit is about the same as Ryan’s and Grabbo is done after this season so it gives them flexibility
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Since the cap is so much of a factor in this kind of deal, do you guys think that Anaheim/Toronto would even pull the trigger on such a deal before the new CBA?
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No
Because we’re not getting Bobby Ryan. But a man can dream.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
I’d trade them in less time it takes for a neutrino particle to travel through CERN if you know what I mean.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Considering Kulemin is my favourite Leaf take this FWIW. I’d pack Kule’s bags.
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Same
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Nov 29, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan is a proven NHLer, and while Kulemin and Grabbo are nice to have, neither have anywhere close to the ceiling that Ryan has and/or still might achieve.
Look, we’re always lusting after all these unicorns, but I think you’ve got to realize that if the Leafs were ever to actually try to trade for one of them, it takes a whole bunch of good not-unicorns to buy one actual unicorn.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if anybody, even anybody on here, was thinking of Phaneuf as a unicorn at the time. Maybe one of those Budweiser clydesdales, but certainly not a bona-fide unicorn.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
We also didn’t pay unicorn pricing for him. Hell, we didn’t pay Clydesdale pricing for him. “Oh no, Jamal Mayers? Okay, Sutter. You drive a hard bargain!”
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I picture burke pressing mute and bursting out laughing and returning to Sutter and saying “All right, that’s a hard deal to make but I guess it’s fair”.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe not, but he’s a pretty significant player, and we paid nothing of significant value. It spoiled us by setting a precedent for getting big players without giving up anyone we love.
Come get your duds in order...
4 months before the trade he was considered a lock for the Canadian Olympic team. Was even in the commercial for it.
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that was almost as funny as the allstar commercial that had Luongo in it, then they had to change the goalie in the commercial to some one generic because Luongo didnt make the all star game
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why Burke would have to open the purse strings to get him.
As was said above, there are only a handful of names on the untouchables list.
But depending on what ANA wants, WSH could probably crush any other offer if they really wanted to.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
My sentiments exactly
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
It’s also a little bit out there, but CBJ does have a pretty nice 1st rounder and/or Jeff Carter if they were looking to add another core piece…
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Eklund suggested Carter for Ryan.
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Aside from the fact that it’s Eklund, I’ll say that the problem there is it’s only a lateral move.
It actually might be a good idea for the Jackets to bring in Ryan if they can, and have Nash / Carter / Ryan as there big three forwards (not necessarily on the same line).
Bobby Ryan or bust
He’s a more physical Phil Kessel, jump on that god damn train and run
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
But it’s not “just to make a cup run”… the kid is 24, it’s to have another top-tier talent on the team that we don’t have any internal young talent with a likely shot of being as good as Ryan… sure, we could get lucky and some 6th rounder could become a superstar, but it’s not likely.
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When did it go away?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Is it odd that I never really had an issue with the Kessel trade, but I don’t seem to like this whole Bobby Ryan idea?
Yeah I think I could be wrong on this one
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Well I’ll give you guys credit for being nice about my wrongness. It could have been much worse
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It’s not an entirely unreasonable position. I just think you’re missing the forest for the trees on this one.
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As in, Bobby Ryan is the forest, and our players minus a few protected ones (Kessel, Phaneuf, a handful of prospects), are the trees.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
No, he’s focusing on the short-term issues on D and in net, and ignoring that adding 24 year old Bobby Ryan makes the long-term offence much more stable.
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Our goaltending issues might not be short term. We don’t know if Reimer is the real deal yet.
But basically, yes.
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Kessel is a faster, less physical Bobby Ryan
Bobby Ryan is a stronger, more physical Phil Kessel
/drool
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Never ever
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
I bet you said the same thing about your Nortel stocks in 2001. Who needs Apple stocks when you’ve got Nortel.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Lateral move.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Pass
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Hell’s no. Kessel = Playing better right now, Leafs bias
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SPEED
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t imagine Aulie has much value. I would do that trade in a second if it was 2nd or less. I’d consider it if it were a first.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Re: Ryan Rumors
The Ducks aren’t going to trade Bobby Ryan for anything less than all the tea in China.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 29, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. They are gonna want young players on ELC’s and draft picks. Something the Leafs can’t afford to give up right now
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
yup, and Burke loves him Bobby Ryan, and Burke goes hard after what he wants, I could see him pushing the stupid button on this
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I seem to be in the minority here, but I’d give up a lot for a 24 year old 3x 30 goal scorer locked in 4 more years at 5M.
Like, a lot.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
oh me too, just saying is what im saying
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you have to do what it takes to get him. Running Kessel and Ryan for the next 5 years, oh baby.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
The fact he’s locked in for 4 more years is huge. HUGE.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
So much cap space!
Oh hey Ryan Suter, you wanted to sign in Detroit, well that team is old and busted. We have Bobby Ryan and Phil Kessel for the next 4 years, and this Dion Phaneuf guy who you will get to play with.
You want to become a god?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Just wet myself
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 29, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
It’s technically possible. Trade whatever for B. Ryan, let’s say Gunnar + Kulemin + pick/prospect, that probably equates to a wash in terms of salary when factoring in Kulie’s RFA raise. Then factor in Frattin’s modest RFA raise and get some futures in exchange for Grabbo and one of MacA/Lombardi/Connolly/Bozak at the deadline. That leaves us with anywhere between 10-13 mill in cap space this summer. Unless my math is completely wrong, which is a possibility.
just a thought
What happens if the new cba causes the cap to go down?
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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 29, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
we laugh at New Jersey and their kovalchuck contract.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
Good times will be had by all*
*Good times will not be had by New Jersey lulz.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Nov 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
pretty much the sum of my feelings about Suter, Ryan, Parise.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
You want to become a god?
Sundin/Mogilny and Kaberle/McCabe who? Say hi to Kessel/Ryan and Suter/Phaneuf!
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Sundin should never be included in a sentence that includes the word ‘who’.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
i hope he pushed the fuck out of this till it lights up and poops rainbows
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
All the tea? Huh. Murray must have acquired that ‘Free Tibet’ everyone’s been talking about.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Nov 29, 2011 9:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
On the Anaheim broadcast, they were talking about how Beauch “stood up his man.” Sure, if you mean Frattin was still standing and Beauch was lying on the ice.
Come get your duds in order...
Frattin should be happy he wears the blue and white and that wasn’t Dion.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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its even funnier if you just watch Beachemin, he is lining Frattin up from the offensive blue line in and clearly thinks he is jut going to truck the kid
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
That’s like his trap. He pretends to be all exposed and stupid, but then when someone comes to hit him BOOOOOM! He’s like that fish Commodus talks about all creepily in Gladiator.
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IF Kessel or Colborne get on the scoreboard tomorrow I would give anything to hear a “Thank You Boston” chant.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions
as long as it’s not the first goal after they’ve scored 7.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
On PPP instead of paying attention in class
I love you guys <3
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
p.s.
10’000th comment!
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I show my love with my fists
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
buying you pretty things would be useless as they would always pale in comparison to your beauty
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
my girlfriend agrees whole heartedly, or should I say pants removingly
heyooooo
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hah, same
PPP >>>>>>> Any class.
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Kyper pretty much killed my day’s productivity, and I have a lot of shit to do.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
fun fact, I am pretty sure this is a fake Kyper rumour
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Whatever, I’ll take it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t Kypreos, it was Millard who tweeted it:
Doing the oilers/predators game @RealKyper told by an nhl exec that ducks r shopping bobby ryan. Wow. 2 wins in 18.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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weird how Kypreos never tweeted that himself, but then I wouldn’t put it past him forgetting his twitter password of 1234
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
HEY COOL THAT’S WHAT I’M DOING TOO
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’m out of class, so I’m no longer doing that. Beat learning about intellectual property, though.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nice, I’m currently not learning about public international law; IP for me next semester.
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This makes me feel better about myself.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
That’s cool. I really should be working on a Professional Responsibility paper about why lawyers having sex with clients is bad but I’m on PPP instead.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
“Professional Responsibility”? I’m assuming that is similar to “Legal Ethics” that I took last year, or no?
I have a big paper on stupid NAFTA due Friday that I really need to get on, it’s probably the worst course I’ve ever taken.
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All we got here on legal ethics was a 2 hour talk at the beginning of first year.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ah I see, we had an entire class during the second half of 1L (so not worth same as the core 5)… probably has to do with the fact that the prof who teaches it has a textbook he wrote called “Legal Ethics”
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Pretty much the same thing. It’s one of our seven mandatory upper year courses.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Too soon, Burke hasn’t even done his annual blockbuster yet.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
This fantasy needs more Zach Parise.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
well, I guess the Leafs need someone to play along side eric Staal on the 2nd line
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm he’ll be in tough for icetime with Bobby Ryan.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
ive strayed..
comment in the Miller/Lucic puckdaddy
speaking of THE CLASSLESS 1 CINDY CRYBABY check out his commets after the PENWHINES LOST TO THE BLUES, a game , where crybaby had ZERO POINTS and 6 minutes in peanlties, he was crying about the way the game was called WHA WHA you cant call me for a penalty, DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? IAM CINDY THE CHOSEN 1 how dare you call a penalty on me?
puckdaddy comments are quickly ascending to the worst kind of comments among hfboards & tsnyourcall
Flyerrob is that you?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
What happened to that guy?
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
tough times last we heard, some deaths in the family.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Oh. Sorry to hear that.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. He pops in to make a couple comments and talk for 10 or 15 minutes. But doesn’t seem to stay aronud anymore.
I think he had 2 deaths (father and sister) in under 6 months. Sounded really tough.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I think he heard us invoke his name in vain
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what they are talking about at all. is that english?
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I stop reading at Cindy.
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/author/mislav-jantoljak/
@Xterratu on twitter
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Puckdaddy comments, have been for a while the worst as it seems anyone with a yahoo user ID feels like a hockey expert in there.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
That made me a little nauseous to read
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 29, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
So... did anybody hear....
that BOBBY RYAN may be on the trade list???? !!!!
INCREDIBLE, right?!!
Just to start things off, how about if we gave ’em… LUKE SCHENN! (I know, I know… crazy, lateral-thinking there. But I think it could work!)
Now you give me all YOUR best ideas!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions
I hear he knows Tim Brent
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not to be rude but try reading the rest of the thread lol :P
by Ben Schnell on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I think you might be getting a woosh
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I hate it when the same people post the same discussion, adds nothing to me!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
don’t worry, somone will post it again today
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 29, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
HEY EVERYBODY! FACE WHOOOSH FOR SCHNELL!
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I get annoyed with the same person basically copying and pasting their comments from yesterday’s discussion. Adds nothing to me.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 29, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hmm
SeanFitz_Gerald
James Reimer is out on the ice in what appears to be a brand new, all-black mask. There are three goaltenders in Leafs jerseys on the ice.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
RYAN WAS A DIVERSION! WE TRADED FOR HILLER!
by Ben Schnell on Nov 29, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
NEGA-REIMER!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
News-flash: Mennonite Keeper Goes To The DARK Side. Details at.... Oh Shit. Here he comes.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Gionta’s actions tore a hole in his soul. He is now consumed by darkness
by ShahofToronto on Nov 29, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
A really small hole. But a hole, nonetheless.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
ahahahaha
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
It’s good to know we’re in mid-offseason form in terms of trade speculation today.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
as mentioned earlier, the crappy scheduling thus far this season is a factor. Two weekends without a saturday games in the span of two weeks? A game at 5pm on sunday after a Saturday game? Two games in a week? Something like 10 home games in one month (January) Blaaaaarrrghhhh
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
The greatest thing of all time would be if the new CBA got rid of the cap or made it soft…. it would actually be horrible for the league but as a selfish Leafs fan I’d be pretty happy.
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It wouldn’t necessarily be horrible for the league, depending on how it was done.
What I don’t want is some bullshit where you can’t actually build a team, or keep one together, because the cap is super low / you can’t bury contracts / contracts are limited to 3 years.
The trick with a soft cap is to make the penalty so steep no one wants to pay it.
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Well not that steep.
I’ve always said we should have a system with a luxury tax line and a hard cap above that (maybe with a slight refund for mid/low market teams going above the line, not sure how to make that work at the moment).
What might definitely be good is allowing teams to pay a chunk of the salaries of players they trade to other clubs (i looking at you, Mike Komisarek).
I’ve strongly advocated that a team should be allowed to keep half the cap hit of any contract they trade, as if they put them on re-entry waivers. This seriously favors big-market teams and the nhlpa might even go for it because it would probably reduce buyouts.
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Keep half the cap hit for how long? You wouldn’t see much trading of a multi year contract.
By the way, you are a fan of a big market team now. Big money, anyway.
And seriously Ubi, there were people talking about Leino > Roy over at DBtB this summer. I didn’t see nearly enough of you flogging them . The time you spend here is taking away from your responsibilities as a sabres fan methinks.
There are three Leafs who played in Brian Burke’s first game as President and GM that are currently on the Leafs roster. Name them.
Also, read my post at Leafs Nation to see just how bad the team he inherited was.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 11:34 AM EST reply actions
This would have been a tougher question had Scott Cullen not just given the answer on twitter like 2 minutes ago.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Check out the screen grab of the rosters.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
looks at 2008-09 leafs
I think i just threw up in my mouth.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
What a terrible terrible team that was.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Look at how bad Colombus is doing now. I’d trade that roster any day of the week for ours then. I can’t believe we only finished 28th.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
They scored a billion goals but couldn’t stop a beach ball from going in their own net
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
But hey, they beat the Wings in the first game of the season (for a moment, they were on top of the world!).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Antropov-Stajan-Ponikarovsky
Blake-Grabovski-Hagman
Kulemin-Moore-Stempniak
Hollweg-Mitchell-Mayers
Kaberle-Kubina
Finger-Schenn
Stralman-White
Toskala
Joseph
Shoot me now.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure what date the Stempniak trade went down, but my own records show this 2008-09 opening night roster:
Blake-Grabovski-Ponikarovsky
Tlusty-Antropov-Hagman
Steen-Moore-Kulemin
Mitchell-Stajan-Mayers
Williams-Hollweg
Kubina-Kaberle
Finger-VanRyn
Colaiacovo-Frogren
White
Toskala-Joseph
.
Ondrus-Bell-Battaglia
Deveaux-Devereaux-Newbury
Stalberg-Frattin
Schenn-Stralman
Kronwall-Boumedienne
Petiot-Gunnarsson
Pogge-Reimer
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
KILL IT WITH FIRE
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
In-season trades amounted to:
Antropov-Steen-Moore-Bell
Coalaicovo-Kronwall-Petiot
for
Stempniak-May-JHamilton-RHamilton
Heward-Reitz-Rogers
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Can anyone remind me who J. Hamilton was?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Tinted visor dude that scored like one goal and one shootout winner in the CuJo game I think
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I still don’t remember him, but my old spreadsheet did.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Stempniak came a few games into the season, with splody and Steen going the other way.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
That roster is like drinking a bottle of epicac other than Schenn and Kulemin
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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn’t they have Wellwood then? He was not terrible.
by theninjagreg on Nov 29, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wellwood was waived, picked up by the Canucks in June 2008.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
The most remarkable thing about this post is that three years ago, the Leafs beat the Flyers with Toskela in net.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Oh, and TOI leader JEFF FINGER.
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Nicklas Hagman played 20 minutes!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
ewww Ryan Hollweg
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 29, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
To sum up. In Burke’s first game as GM Hagman lead all forwards in TOI. Three years later he was on the Ducks after recently being waived by the Calgary Flames. In between Burke managed to trade him for Dion Phaneuf and Kieth Aulie. So yeah, Burke’s pretty good.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t actually name a major signing or trade or roster move that has gone totally and completely bust under Burke…maybe Orr, though we already knew he was useless. But Lebda? For our one-year suffering under his awful play, we got Lombardi and Franson.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Komisarek signing still wasn’t great.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Who’s Komisarek?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 29, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not great for the price, true, but he still is a top 6 defender easily. Just way overpaid, I’ll give you that one.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much anyone currently playing as a defender in the league could be considered a “top 6 defender”.
Huge overpayment.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
We were talking about whether or not the Lebda trade excuses the Lebda signing, and I don’t think it does. They are best judged separately – a shitty signing that would later facilitate a great trade – but considering the position that Nashville was in, we probably could’ve traded them any other bag of pucks. As Burke didn’t know the Nashville trade would happen, it doesn’t make Lebda even an “okay” signing – it just means the trade, in which we got rid of a negative value player, was a damn good one.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think it shows Burke/Nonis can turn shit into gold, but that’s just me.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sure. I’m just saying, they still deserve to be held accountable for signing shit to an NHL contract.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
Can’t believe you’re still that pissed about dropping a coupla hundred bucks on that custom Lebda “Assistant Captain” jersey.
Told you it was too soon, dude.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Giguere for Toskala/blake wasn’t Burke’s greatest. Giggy turned out to be a marginal upgrade to Toskala that never solved the leaf’s net issues as we (or at least I hoped). And in my view extended marginal goaltending for another year instead of looking for a more capable goalie in UFA market. Of course, Giggy could have regained or surpassed his playing form like Lupul has but that doesn’t happen with every Burke trade. His record shows he takes big risks and is right more often then not. And on the other hand, it did give a chance for Reimer to emerge.
Kidding, right?
Halloo?
GOT RID OF TOSKALA AND BLAKE. END STORY. WIN-WIN.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry, did you just say you would have preferred Blake and Toskala?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Giguere was ever more than a stopgap, consider Monster and Reimer were already in the system and it took Jason Blake — heretofore considered untradeable — off the books.
Yeah I think Blake was only being traded in our dreams, and somehow Burke plucked those dreams and turned it into reality.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
No one is arguing that and I would prefer Blake at 4M expiring this year then Komisarek at 4.5 expiring in 2 years.
right, but that was never an option
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not as convinced 2 years of marginal giggy was better then 1 year of horrid of toskala.
(And to me claiming giggy a stop gap comes after the fact comes off as a bit revisionist history). Adding Blake confuses the issue as he is overpaid but still produces.
Blake has scored 22 goals since the trade. 16 last year. And he’s 38 years old.
Getting rid of him was spectacular.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with that statement. But I do not agree this is great trade of getting rid of Blake at the cost of another year of marginal goaltending.
also the 4 million in cap space this year
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying that you don’t think it was worth getting rid of Blake because all we got back was marginal goaltending? I just want to be clear.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I’m saying I would prefer Blake at 4M and underperforming with an average NHL goalie in net compared to a marginal goalie (giggy) and no Blake on the roster.
right, so we’d have toskala who was worse if we kept blake
that makes no sense
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Toskala was signed for that year and giggy for another year afterward. The other option was to find a unicorn UFA goalie for 2010/2011 season.
other than Bryz, name the last time a team found a UFA goalie unicorn
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t even UFA if we’re getting really technical
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. If you want to acquire goaltending in this day and age, you’re either going to try and do it when they’re young (Salak to Chicago) or pay big in a trade (Bernier, Schneider) or signing (Bryzgalov).
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Washington w/ Vokoun?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 29, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I was afraid of.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Your opinion is valid. But wrong. So wrong.
I think you’re forgetting just how badly Toskala and Blake were.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why would it matter? Giggy never yielded playoff and still yielded a 2nd draft pick for Boston. Maybe first pick would be worse but I’m not sure.
What? Yielded second pick for Boston?
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
We were already in 2nd last when we made that trade. It wasn’t Giguere’s fault.
If anything I blame Burke for taking THAT LONG to make the trade.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Giggy was better then Toskala in net but that didn’t really matter at the end of the season. The reasons to trade Toskala become to trade also Blake and to mentor a rookie. An equivalent avenue is a veteran UFA goalie and hold onto blake’s contract. And finger him if he is really that bad.
Blake’s contract was bad. Like, it was worse for the team to have Blake at that term than to have no one. That’s the kind of situation a salary cap puts you in.
Come get your duds in order...
Maybe my hockey value appreciation is off but I think the Blake hate is bit over the top. And Komi’s contract is as damaging. Both players can contribute but not to their cap value.
Yeah and we might all trade Komi’s ass in the same deal had we the chance.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
He had a 4 mil cap hit for what turned out to be 41 points on the year. Given that he was 36, a team is absolutely better off having that 4 mil in available cap space than an old man giving you 41 points.
No one here would defend Komisarek’s contract. That line of arguing won’t help.
Scott Gomez contributes (minimally), but because of his contract he has negative value to his team. Blake was the same (to a lesser degree).
Come get your duds in order...
It seems the differing views comes down to the cost of unloading Blake contract is taking on Giggy for 1 more year. For me, if Giggy plays to his career average SV% the trade is a win (.913). If he plays below his career average SV% I don’t consider it a win. We could argue if it a loss but it is certainly not Burke’s greatest trade
So have we agreed at least that “holding on to Blake’s contract” would actually have been a bad thing, regardless of what other moves were made? Cause that’s a good first step.
The second step is to point out that Giguere was better than Toskala, and had a shorter commitment than Blake. At the end of 2010/2011 season, all the money involved in that trade is off the books, and in the meantime we get better goaltending, plus a mentor for Reims and Gus.
It’s not completely one-sided, but trades rarely are. If you can’t see the trade as improving the Leafs position (i.e. a win for us), I’m not sure what else there is to say.
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I don’t think the trade is horrid but I believe that the trade was not Burke’s greatest.
Another alternative is have Blake playing along with Finger in the AHL when his performance drops. Let Toskala walk and the leaf’s need to sign a UFA goalie.
That year there was not much available goalie. Perhaps Theodore who signed as a backup on the wild might prefer to sign with the leafs for a chance as a starter. Now there is too much 20/20 hindsight here but if giggy put up .913 career average goaltending the leafs would have made the playoffs and I would say this was another great trade.
ugh. you just don’t understand how a trade could work from a salary cap management standpoint. It all makes sense now.
bless your simpleton brain.
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This is literally idiocy.
With this plan, Toskala stinks up the joint until the end of the season, when he leaves and we get no production from Blake, which is exactly what we did get because he was in Anaheim. In what way is this at all better than the situation we had after we made the trade.
0.5 PPG is not a lack of production – it is not worth 4m. And why does no one mention the productivity of Giggy at 6M is and a .900ish save %?
you call into Leaf Talk with Andy Frost a lot don’t you?
Jesus christ dude.
Blake was awful, Toskala was awful, we needed to move a) a disinterested, notcompeting, delusional goaltender and B) that contract to free up cap space for THIS YEAR. That was the plan all along. Giguere is no longer in Toronto while Anaheim has 2 more years of Jason Blake.
We have Phil Kessel, who gives a shit about Jason Blake and his .5 ppg.
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We would still have Blake on our roster… this would mean we’d have to lose 4m in salary from our current roster. Blake sucked, Toskala sucked, Giggy didn’t work out but didn’t really hurt us since the team sucked anyways. You need to get over this. You have a right to your opinion, but that doesn’t mean you’re right and doesn’t mean you need to keep beating a dead horse.
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pretty much, who do the Leafs not have right now if they are paying Blake’s salary? Connolly? Lupul?
either one of those gone and the leafs are not as good as tehy are now
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is bordering on the “Leafs wouldn’t trade Orr for Gomez” discussion
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just the same argument.
I get annoyed with the same person basically copying and pasting their comments from yesterday’s discussion. Adds nothing to me.
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by Shield on Nov 29, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wrote a few times earlier that Blake could be fingered to AHL when his production dropped. Instead of ignoring that and keep saying the same you could offer an insight like the team would need to manage the off season cap limitation with finger also in the AHL. I’ll drop it now if you guys want me to.
If you keep sending guys who are NHL level players to the AHL, nobody is going to want to sign with your team. You can’t just send people to the AHL whenever you want, it’s not a junk drawer.
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by Shield on Nov 29, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why dump the contract in the AHL when you can dump it with another team entirely?
Now, usually the only way to do this is to take a crap contract back. Good thing Giggy’s ran out way before Blake’s did. Or will. Because there’s two more years of it.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why dump the contract in the AHL when you can dump it with another team entirely?
Oh my god yes.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not real familiar with the CBA provisions etc, but does Jeff Finger count towards our SPC limit?
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. Anyone on a pro contract playing in a pro league counts (simplified so I don’t have to write 200 words about the slide rules)
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I thought so. So great, lets keep crappy SPC’s and shove them into the AHL (notwithstanding your point below about limits on that, which makes the point probably moot anyways).
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
The AHL has rules governing how many veteran players can be sent down. (I don’t know off-hand the exact figures, but 2 years ago I wrote about the waiver process and this was something I came across)
Blake’s been in the league for a while; I doubt he’s eligible to be sent to the AHL in the same fashion as Finger, who hasn’t played all that many NHL games.
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I didn’t realize there was a limit – but if there is – it is at least two – the Rangers managed to toss Redden in AHL and Avery joined him not to long ago. I also thought the bigger issue is during the offseason those players show up on the team’s offseason cap calculation.
Because Glen Sather is a model of cap management finesse
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Probably Armstrong, since he signed last year
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Because you are wrong.
He didn’t have a 0.900ish save percentage. He had a 0.906. CHECK YOUR FACTS
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Cue .906 and .900ish are the same thing rebuttal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’m done.
I can’t disagree with you more.
Blake sucks. His contract sucks. Giguere was better than Toskala. The trade was great.
End of fucking story.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Giggy was better then Toskala
so was every goalie to ever play in the NHL
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If the yardstick for a trade is “Did we make the playoffs with them,” you should probably be upset about acquiring Sjostrom, too.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
That can’t be the yard stick, because Pit could trade Crosby for garbage and still make the playoffs and potentially with the cup, doesn’t mean the trade was good.
we dumped one old overpiad underperforming Blake and Toskala Mr. worst single season since the lookout for an Giggy, an overpaid goalie with a chance of being better than average.
It didn’t work out, Giggy wan’t better than average but we lost nothing, I would take that chance again.
Bam Bam.- digga digga damm
That can’t be the yard stick,
That would be my point.
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Silly me I follow the thinking now – the trade didn’t work out like the leafs wanted and therefore the leafs still win the trade.
No, Giggy didn’t work out as well as one could have hoped for but the trade was about dumping underperforming wastes of Cap space with no future in the city. That part was still very successful.
Much like Nashville…They are not going shit Lebda suck…s really….well I guess we lost that deal…the were successful, they needed to dump uninsured salary.
Getting rid if Blake and Toskala was the goal and success, if Giggy worked out, that would have been a bonus.
Bam Bam.- digga digga damm
we also got Giguere to help tutor Reimer while he was here.
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Getting rid of Blake was a godamn blessing.
He was a waste of cap and roster space.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
but he scored like 40 goals that one year!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was so happy when we first got him…
by Tickle Me Aulie on Nov 29, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Giguere was not that bad in net. He was brought in to mentor Gustavsson. We were all hoping Gus could take over as the number one. And besides Reimer, Giggy has been our best goalie since the lockout.
In Toronto he had a 0.906. While that isn’t great its not as horrible as you make it seem.
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I made your table more depressing by adding in ALL the years
Reimer, belfour, cujo, potvin, rhodes, giggy, gus.
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We knew Toskala sucked. Why not take a chance a former conn smythe and stanley cup winner could do better? And we got to get rid of Blake to boot?
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
because we could have had a year less of giggy and blake produces!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Why the fuck are we even having this discussion… That trade was fucking awesome and we got rid of two seemingly unmovable players in Blake and Toskalol. Seriously, what’s next, the Lebda trade was shit?
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I don’t think it’s revisionist history at all. There are guys in the pipe who aren’t quite yet ready, so you get a veteran guy to fill in in the meantime. If the veteran guy works out, fantastic, but if he doesn’t, no big deal, you’ve bought your kids some time. I think we were all hopeful that Giguere might work out, particularly after his first two games — he WAS the same age Cujo was when Cujo became a Leaf.
I don’t think Blake confuses the issue at all — moving him was a key component of the deal. Ignoring Blake changes the equation entirely, and I don’t see how you can do that.
Best case with Giggy would have been him becoming Belfour. Worst case happened and he become Cujo on his second time around.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
That one game he came in and beat the Capitals made it all worth it
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Giguerre was much better in TO than most realize. He was like a 0.909 on the Leafs.
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And he was one bad play away from needing a bionic groin, no less.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
He was a fine goalie, when he wasn’t injured, which he always was, thus re-signing him was too much of a gamble.
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I am not arguing
btw I was slightly off it was 0.906. I am not trying to suggest he was great, he wasn’t. Just that he didn’t play like a ‘marginal goaltender’ at “0.900ish” like jeffgm suggested. He was better than all of the crap we have had in this team since the last decade (except our hope for the future, Reimer).
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Dude seriously?
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I know he wasn’t technically traded for by Burke but we get hit coming and going on that one.
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I didn’t like what we got for him either for the record. He actually had a decent season that year (was on pace for 20+ goals) and returned us shit, when worse players got more than him.
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I think Cliff the Stiff was still the GM when that trade happened.
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 29, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Nov 29, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I have to think Burke doesn’t make that trade. Just given his clear ability to drive a hard bargain.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Silver Fox signed Finger and made that horrid Stempniak trade but he also raped the Flames for Dougie and got us Grabbo on the cheap
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
If we're going back that far
He also, you know, totally effing swindled the Nordiques to get Sundin.
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Didnt mind Anderson for Gartner either
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 29, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
So it’s agreed we can cut the man a little slack in his old age.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, Hagman is three years older as well.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
The Leafs had terrible OT luck at that point in that season. 6 OT/SO losses? A bit more puck luck and that team is pretty close to this team.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
A lot of that were games that shouldn’t have gone to OT/SO but did anyways because that team couldn’t hold a lead.
Not exactly luck.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Easy
Kulemin, Schenn, and Grabbo (I really hope one wasn’t injured or something).
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probably already answered but without looking. Kulemin, Gunnarsson, Schenn.
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by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Carl Gunnarsson back at practice after missing Sunday’s game in Anaheim. Dave Steckel also back.
Bye Aulie Bye forward Marlie
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Aulie and Colborne down
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 29, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Goalborne must have lots of confidence now….almost PPG in the NHL, dominating the AHL. Keep this up, kid, and you’re in the big leagues next year easy.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
That's, unless, your name is Nazem Kadri
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I’m going to miss Colborne’s sweet passes.
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He looked good to me. Should have all the confidence and motivation in the world right now
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 29, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
The big body also made a difference. He’s good at forechecking and winning puck battles.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
FYI
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
CAR claims Andreas Nodl on waivers from PHI.
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Franchise saved
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Plan the parade
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Call a timeout?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Good move. Honestly, Nodl is a useful player.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 29, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Nodl is a crazy asshole
fixed
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
the leafs do not have a chance in hell at netting Yakupov
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I know we don’t. Not a chance in hell.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I have a plan but it involves us drugging all of the other GMs just prior to the draft.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Drug the GMs the night before, switch all of their sheets on who to pick and player info with damning information about Yakupov. Something about him losing his leg in an auto accident or something. Their sheets will now have all the same players with Yakupov not on the list. They then get to the draft tables early on. As they walk around the room and joke with other GMs, we (having secretely placed our pro-Leafs moles within the refreshments providers) drug them again, but at a lower dose. Plausible deniability for Burke as each team picks a player other than Yakupov, allowing us to snare him with our middling pick. Alternatively, Burke could pounce on the chance to trade his 1st and 2nd pick for the 1st overall while the GMs are not totally in reality.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
we need web designers and hackers to make it look like every newspaper is covering Yakupov’s supposed injury. We’ll have to go all out, boys, but it will be worth it.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
You watch a bit of the OHL right?
I’ve seen videos of him, the guy is amazing. He seems to play pretty physical too. Any insight?
Maybe I should go to an 67s/Sting game if there is one coming up….
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Jan 27 Sarnia @ Ottawa
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
hmm nice. There’s also 67s vs Otters in Feb that I will go to to see McKegg, as long as he hasnt been traded.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
hoping for a trade to Niagara, we’re pretty good down the centre, but what the hell it’s the last year this team will be together.
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Given how bad Erie is….the epic levels of suck there, I’d like to see him traded too. Tough to build your offensive game when you’re getting absolutely dominated every night.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t get to see many sting games, but the kid is as good as everyone says
probably the best talent since Stamkos
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
He beat Stamkos’ record, according to the Globe. has 18 goals and 28 assists in 25 games. What. the. fuck.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
yup, he is damned good
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah but check Emerson Etem’s stat line… That kid is a monster
27 and 25 in 27 GP
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Welcome home Chaim Weisswasser!
by happiergilmore on Nov 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am amazed that kid is getting next to no press
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
At least the Ducks have something to look forward to then.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
you know who’s amazing this year? Ekblad, kids 15 and one of the best D-Meni n the league.
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Is the kid that was granted “Exceptional” status. Like the first D man since Bobby Orr to get that?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Is he the kid ^^^
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Yep, 2nd person drafted under the “Tavares rule”. Watched him from ice level the whole time Barrie was in Niagara. just fantastic.
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All I really remember was that he was 15 and fucking HUGE. I couldn’t believe it
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off topic
any of you watch the walking dead from amc? hershel is like an identical twin to brian burke
Sickest show
Can’t believe there’s no more episodes until February, the ending of Sunday’s was so good
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Soooooo good. Last 5 minutes or so were INTENSE
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
It looked like Shane had finally snapped
But god damn I’m on his side 100% after that.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Shane fuckin rules.
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shut up shut up shut up!
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 29, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm I don't really see it, other than they both have white hair.
I was so mad to find out the next episode isn’t until February. Godamnit.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
my farm my barn damnit!
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Loved season one but season two has been pretty average. Still a good show, but I expected a bit more. The whole farm thing is pretty annoying as is the insanity they all possess to doing the dumbest shit ever.
I still can’t get over the idea that these people keep making runs when they need stuff rather than taking a minivan and taking everythng tney can find just in case.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Can’t think they’re staying at the farm much longer.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
because 12 people go through perishables pretty fast
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
The farm people have no excuse with a base of operations like that. Also had no idea why once they found the unmolested truck full of just of water they didn’t try and jack that.
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yeah, who knows, they still need that “scavenging” thing open to drive the plot a bit i imagine
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah, but still. It is also amazing they keep finding stuff because I would loot as much as I could for future use and can’t think I’d be alone.
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they are also nomadic for the most part, so they can only take as much as they can viably carry
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why haven’t they just gone to the complete middle of nowhere and started building fences around their camp? I just dont understand this show. haven’t watched season 2 yet.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
fences work for maybe a couple hundred zombies, not so useful against 1000’s
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t their excuse that they left stuff behind ‘in case anyone else needs it?’ Not a smart move but if they honestly believe there are other groups of survivors that may be passing through then it is a valid excuse
Season two hasn’t been as good as season one so far but I think that the first half has been largely about secrets and Shane’s conscience more than action, and they’re not going to be on that farm for long
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
the only real issue of season 2 is pacing. they picked a story line that was probably geared towards 4 episodes, but tried to flesh it out over 6
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m already pretty sick of the storyline with Lori.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Get a coat hanger and put an end to it for fucks sakes
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m kinda sick of all the females on the show. Are they going out of their way to make them relatively useless?
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It seems like TV has 2 versions of women: useless, whiny characters, or super-tough-badder-than-any-man independent women. Like, you know, there’s a big inbetween there….
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
SPOILERS ASSHOLES!
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 29, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that ending coming tho. I knew who was coming out of there
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well yeah, as soon as there was a delay and “one more zombie” the overt tension gave it away, still a good twist though
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Still, as much as Rick bothered me this season, that ending was fuckin badass
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too bad they already did “rick shoots a zombie little girl in the face” thing, kinda sucked some of the shock value out of it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was kinda the point, Shane kept talking about Rick didn’t have the stones for the zombie world, hadn’t seen what they’d seen, etc
but the truth was that Rick had already been there and done that. I thought it was an excellent end
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it was, just saying the previous zombie little girl face shooting killed the emotional impact of the second one somewhat
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
As soon as they discovered the barn the thought crossed my mind (I figured that’s why Herschel was being so hush hush), but it was still pretty dramatic when it happened.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
And maybe that’s why he’s all like “we can’t survive together,” cause he knew he had a bombshell secret in his barn and that if they ever found out they’d freak
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was the difference over how they saw the zombies. In the end, I’m betting their little gun fest will have made enough noise to draw another herd in which will drive them from the farm and whip out most of the farm people. Perhaps not the girl Glen is after.
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I just think it’s low as hell to let them keep searching for a little girl you know is in your god damn barn already, I don’t think Shane or even Rick are going to take that too well, and Daryl is gonna lose it
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Daryl is awesome. Going to miss him if he gets killed. Though it is probably a when, not an if.
And yeah, if you caught the sneak peaks, it’s all of Shane going nuts on the old man while Rick tries to make peace. But I can buy they didn’t know they had that little girl and would withhold the info because they were protecting “family and friends.” Plus, Otis did most of the fetching. I mostly shocked that the little girl managed to merely be turned rather than be eaten by a zombie.
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I find it fucking stupid that characters in all horror shows and movies will never stay put when they’re told to, no no let’s run off in a random fucking direction for no reason. Stupid girl.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Is it any good? I watched part of the first season but couldn’t get through it. Too much drama and not enough zombies. And the consensus on twitter is that this season isn’t very good either. Thoughts?
by theninjagreg on Nov 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
not enough zombies
Seriously?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
The first season had a shitload of zombies
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Even the 1st episode of this one did.
I agree it has declined in absolute # of zombies in the 2nd season so far, but they’ve been at a fucking safe haven.
Hopefully that will pick up in the 2nd half if they have to leave.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
There was like one zombie in one of the episodes which was kind of lame. The well zombie episode.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what separates the Walking Dead from other zombie media, it tries to focus on the drama and survival in a broken world aspects more than simply the horror of the zombies
The first season still had a ton of zombies though, at least in episodes 1-4
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't watched the second season yet...
But after watching the first season and then reading all the comics, I decided that the comics were WAY better.
I’m behind on it. Really hating what I know is a spoiler-laden subthread.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ya I wouldn’t read anymore.
I tried to stay away from spoilers but then everybody was doing it and figured there was no point.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I tried to be intentionally vague at first but that plan didn’t work too well
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
minimize dude
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Dont hate, appreciate
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It’s amazing. Nothing ever happens on that show, yet I still really like it.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Its so true.
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same for Mad Men.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
wow.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Poor Bobby Ryan
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@b_ryan9 How many tweets per minute have you gotten about your upcoming trade to the #Leafs ? Lol!!!
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@VikingLeafJay you have no idea. Little overwhelming
I love that twitter allows fans to directly talk to players. Love it.
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Didn't Bobby Ryan
say something like “the next time someone forwards me a toronto article I’m gonna freak” back before he signed with the Ducks?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what did you just say?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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can someone photshop that Burke/Kessel pic and stick Ryan in there like they did Stamkos?
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re: The "Yablonski Rule"
“We are drafting a resolution under which players from Canada and USA will be allowed to play in the KHL only if they satisfy the League’s criteria (excluding those who come over after being drafted). There will be certain entry criterion implemented, which, in essence, will have only one consideration — the number of games in the NHL. The exact number is being discussed right now, but the range considered is 80 to 120 games. This number of games should be enough to talk about [player’s] qualification. Europeans will not be affected by this.”What a terrible, terrible approach to solving the Vityaz “goon problem”. Rather than punish teams on which players continually jump others and are there to just throw fists, Medvedev is going to punish nearly every potential player from the continent on which chuckleheads Yablonski and Brennan come from. This is beyond idiotic and shows that Medvedev has no balls to do the obvious “right thing” and merely impose fines and other punishment onto teams like Vityaz when they and their players step out of line.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Those weren’t actualVancouver fansKHL hockey players. Those were professionalanarchistsgoons who purposefully came toVancouverthe KHL to startriotsfights.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
In fairness he’s threatened to ban the team from the league. Though at this point i think he’s just got to follow through and actually do it.
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by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure that counts as “in fairness.” It’s still a stupid rule. I haven’t looked up their birthplaces (KHL site doesn’t list them), but PIM leaders ranked 3 and 5 through 10 all have Russian or European sounding names. To put a birthplace ban on north america is irrelevant, ineffective, xenophobic, and above all else: stupid.
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Waaaaaaaaay off topic, but I wanna know...
Who’s first in their hockey pool, what # did you draft (snake draft?) and who’d you all take?
I’m first in my draft (barely – 2 point lead). I drafted 4th overall (out of a 13 player snake draft) and I took…
1. Perry (Could have had Hank Sedin… but after living most of a year in Van, I was sick to death of the twins)
2. Selanne
3. E. Staal (ouch – could have should have taken Skinner)
4. Jagr (wheeeeeee)
5. Rinne (why did Lindback have to play last night?)
6. Grabbo
7. MacA
8. Weber (to go with Rinne)
9. Kule
10. Liles
11. Elias
12. Lupul
Our rules are that we had to take two D and one G. Worst player’s points out of the 12 are not counted. W=2 OTL=1 SO=3 for goalies.
So far, Lupul’s been my best pick! I knew nobody would see what I saw in him last season, so I knew I could take him late. =)
How much am I loving my old timers? Everyone laughed at me and said that they’d all be too easily injured but so far I’ve only missed 17 games due to injury or suspension. Some of the other guys in my pool have missed 64 games so far!
Go Elias/Jagr/Selanne!
All the guys in my pool are Vancouverites who obviously love to trash the Leafs… so I knew that what with the media constantly calling the Kessel line the Leafs’ #1 line last season, I could probably steal the entire MGK line late in the draft and all these guys would be like “MacWho?”. I just wish MGK would keep up their “NHL’s 7th best line overall” pace from last season – though, I think a lot of that has to do with injuries/suspensions and Steckel/Connoly.
I didn’t want to take too many Leafs, but couldn’t say no to Liles when I drafted him… judging by last year’s stats, he was the best D-man remaining when I took him.
Sadly, I could have had Kessel instead of Staal, Jagr, or Rinne. He went in the 5th round. I must admit that I was worried he’d not play as well as he has and again, I didn’t want to have too many Leafs on my team. D’oh.
I’m quite proud of my choice in Rinne. Once Henrik was gone, it seemed like he was the obvious choice, yet for some reason, guys like Quick, Vokoun, Price and Bryz went sooner. Hell… Luongo was the first goalie taken… LOL.
So yeah… How is everyone else doing?
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I took Ovechkin first overall and even though he hasn’t done shit this year I’m still sitting 6th out of 12 which is better than I thought I’d be doing. I’ve annihilated 3 out of my last 4 opponents.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I had first overall pick, and since it was my first time playing I accidentally selected Shea Weber. I picked up Kessel & Crosby fairly late though, since a lot of us just drafted according to fave teams.
In true Leafs fan fashion, I’m pleased being in 6th place out of 14 and .542.
im 1st in 2 different pools. I selected13th/14th out of 15 and 18 i think. Snake draft
Pool # 1 (my own pool with close friends)
Kane
Giroux
Tavares
Selanne were my top 4 picks
PPPP2
Getzlaf
Lundqvist
P.Kane
Sharp were my top 4
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Nov 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
The all star top 3 forwards needs more Crosby and Lupul and less senators
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=603775
And top 2 defence more letang and phaneuf and less karlsson
nice, Phil’s jumped into first and Dion are now in 2nd for D. Reimer still in 3rd, but close lol
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 29, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
KESSELMANIA
Kessel leads ASG voting
shucks, thanks guys
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Best. Fucking Best.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to leave this here for birky
Now let’s talk about Paul Stastny. He was terrible tonight. One shot on net, no points, 43-percent on faceoffs. He was slow all night, got outworked on loose pucks along the boards and generally as noticeable as a scoop of vanilla ice cream in a 10-foot snowbank. There is probably a reason why the Avalanche didn’t give him the captaincy, despite being the team’s highest-paid player and one of its more tenured players. Because he’s not leading by example. Period, end of story.
via Adrian Dater.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions
maybe it’s all part of a plan to undervalue and undermine Statsny before he comes to centre our Ryan – Statsny – Kessel line.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough, I just wanted to throw out something ridiculous, as usual.
by Goosemonster on Nov 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
ryan can play both wings, and center…just not very well on the dot
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ahem, Stastny.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Just starting Statsny rumours, nothing to see here.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that was the comment to which I was replying.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Is it a typo though?
There was an article that Stastny was big into stats, and had developed the nickname Statsny (among fans)
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
He is really dumb. He spent so much effort this summer trying to make it look like the Avs killed the Caps in the Varlamov trade.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
PS the folks over at Mile High Hockey don’t seem to think they have three first lines anymore, they barely have one.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I for one am shocked.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/29/2596566/forget-that-shit-here-comes-reimer
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/29/2596566/forget-that-shit-here-comes-reimer
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/29/2596566/forget-that-shit-here-comes-reimer
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@felixpotvin
Reimer will backup vs. Boston behind Gustavsson meaning he’ll likely play only 58 minutes or so.
Chemmy, why do you save your best stuff for twitter? I had a good laugh, thanks.
by ChrisFromParadise on Nov 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/29/2596566/forget-that-shit-here-comes-reimer
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Yse , I just saw that…cant type fast enough.
by ChrisFromParadise on Nov 29, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I try and hit both, but I think my Twitter is more visible than comments in the FTB in the east-coast afternoon.
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Think of it gentlemen, hoof and mouth disease a thing of the past.
Never mind that shit, here come Mongo.
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Damn, that’s an ugly fuckin’ man.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
grrr
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 29, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
Via The Spin-
Burke loves Ryan, and indeed, he turned down overtures from Cliff Fletcher in his final months in Anaheim when the Silver Fox was pitching hard for Ryan.
Imagine Burke had shipped Ryan here for spare parts.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions
The trade was a conditional first and something else which i cant remember for Ryan and Mathieu Schneider.
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I was close
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=251254
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The Ducks chose to go with the Atlanta Thrashers package that Included veteran defenseman Ken Klee, forward Brad Larsen and left wing prospect Chad Painchaud.
They mean for Schneider, right?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Oh man, imagine.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I would have loved it Van Ryn had been involved in that trade. Here’s why:
SEPT. 1998: Schneider traded to NYR by TOR for Karpovtsev.
OCT. 2000: Karpovtsev traded to CHI by TOR for McCabe.
AUG. 2008: McCabe traded to FLA by TOR for Van Ryn.
Include Van Ryn in a deal with Schneider, and you’ve just gone full circle.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Also Cox speculates the cost would be Schenn + Kadri or Kulemin + Franson or something similar.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
FGUCKING
LSU Tigers: 12-0 (8-0 SEC)
SEC West Champions
Bring on Georgia!
by TheOtherAndrew on Nov 29, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
If Cox is writing about it, then there is likely something to it. As much as I dislike his work, he does seem to stay away from this sort of stuff unless there is merit.
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Yeah, he has a pretty good sense of what’s going on in the front office.
Although it’s a no-brainer that Burke would be interested in Ryan.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
right. But he seems to be suggesting that there have been some level of discussions.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Good point. Oh man if that happened I seriously could not stand myself.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well, you’ve got to ask the question
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he also wrote about Turris and the Leafs recently, too, so it might not quite be the smoking gun it was for the Franson trade. But yeah, I think you’d have to put good money that Burke has at least asked about Ryan’s availability.
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I like how all the canadian arenas are over 100% capacity: clearly Canadians can’t count.
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We can to count. We can count better then anybody
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by SPERO on Nov 29, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know ultimately it shouldn't matter.
But I really would love to have more impact players on the team that are Canadian.
Not that I’m a huge xenophobe and I love the American players we have now, but if we were to start adding Ryan and Suter (Both unlikely, I know.) I think it would be too much.
After all this is Canada’s team and I think its somewhat important to keep that integrity, though winning is obviously the ultimate objective.
We have a Canadian captain atleast…
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And a Canadian starting goalie.
Ryan and Suter are both amazing players, who probably won’t end up on the Leafs, but we would be lucky to have them.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
After all this is Canada’s team
BOOOOOOOOOO!
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THIS is Canada's team
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by elseldo on Nov 29, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
WHAT ABOUT THE SONG THOUGH?!!1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYnkzWTjQr4
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by Joe Ferguson on Nov 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
trolling 6 other canadian fan bases
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
i was a second from posting a reply correcting you to 5, but I forgot about Winnipeg
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by elseldo on Nov 29, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That was within a hair of going home with a Silver medal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
They hit the post twice in the third and Ryan Miller was playing incredibly. The other game against the USA Ryan Miller was playing incredibly and Brodeur was garbage (and they barely held on). The Yanks were good, don’t get me wrong.
I was so happy we best the U.S. because, after that first 5-3 wins, all the U.S. media that had previously not acknowledged the existence of hockey were going on about how wonderful it was to beat Canada. Idiots in the U.S. media were likening to the Miracle on Ice. I wanted to barf.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
maybe the millercle on ice.
Seriously. The US had trouble with SWITZERLAND (tho i guess so did canada)
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Lost 2-0 in 2006, then had to win it in a SO in 2010.
Wtf is it with Switzerland? They’ve got no offensive skill, just goaltending and trapping. They’re the Minnesota Wild of international hockey.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
So stacked we told Stamkos to stay home.
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Good thing you won or you’d have gotten four years of “STAMKOS WOULD HAVE SCORED ON RYAN MILLER 1967 2002”
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you guys might have one if you gave Kessel more ice time
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That I never understood.
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What kind of coach wouldn’t give him more ice time?
by theninjagreg on Nov 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
BECAUSE HE SUCKS AND DOESN’T BACKCHECK AND HE’S LAZY. Oh, AND HES AWKWARD WITH THE PRESS SO HE CANT BE GOOD. OH AND LAFFS 1967 ARE STOOPID.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
I DON’T LIKE LAFFS BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS ON TV AND THEY LOOSE I LIKE TO BOO THEM ON TEH HNIC 1967 LOLZ
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
TO MANY EUROPEANS AND AMERICANS ON THIS TEAM. WE NEED GOOD OLD CANADIAN FIGHTERS AND GRINDERS BECAUSE THAT’S HOW YOU WIN HOCKEY GAMES, NOT BY SCORING GOALS. 1967, 1967? 1967!
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I WUZ A LAFF FAN TIL 2006 BUT TEH SENATORS ARE BETTER LAFFS SUCK LOLZ
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
That gets a rec every fucking time yo
by Tickle Me Aulie on Nov 29, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Limiting your talent pool is just hamstringing your own team. I mean, that would be like passing on a talented player or coach because they don’t speak french – you’d have to be an idiot to do it.
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I’m not saying DON’T go after any American players, just personally I would like to have some more dynamic Canadian players.
When was the last time the Leafs had a Canadian born difference maker in the Olympics or any world play for that matter. Never?
And Brian McCabe does not count.
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by Joe Ferguson on Nov 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
MATS FUCKING SUNDIN SAYS WHAT?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
remind me why it matters where they are born?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying it does.
Like I said, I love the American players we have now, and if our team was made up of ALL American players, I would still route for the Leafs as much as I do now.
It’s just my personal preference, I think it would be awesome to have more elite Canadian players, sorry to offend you all….
In the word of Carey Price. Chill.
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by Joe Ferguson on Nov 29, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
no one is offended, we just think that it is dumb to care about where a player is born if he is helping your team win
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Boy,
You must really hate watching Olympic hockey.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
I want my team canada to only have good ol ontario boys on it!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Say what you will,
The fact that Dougie was from Kingston, Ontario, made him that much more of a hero in Leaf-land.
The point is not that anyone cares more about nationality than winning, but it’s a cool story if a hometown kid grows up to play for his favorite team and does well. It’s not about excluding others.
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by JP Nikota on Nov 29, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For sure. This is why I still miss Tim Brent.
/weeps
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Over the summer I was in Cambridge at the mall there and saw a kid in a Tim Brent jersey and had to grab my brother in law (Not a sports fan) to verify that it indeed said “Brent” he then asked me (And I swear to God) “Who the fuck is Brent?”
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Was the "kid’ actually Tim Brent in person wearing his own jersey?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Now knowing that Brent is from Cambridge (Or so I heard) it wouldn’t surprise me if he was family, but the kid was only like 10 or 11
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Yep. That’s why he’s near and dear. Not family, just a hometown (of the tri-city area) boy.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised he’s not in that little “Hall of fame” by the rink in the mall there. I know he’s still playing but still.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
On a related note, last time I was in the KW area, I went to the mall and was surprised when i walked by that the pick-up games they have there at that rink are pretty legit.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm this guy named Paul Henderson
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care if every leaf is from mexico, I want them to win
past that I don;t give a fuck, and neither should you
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
rec’d…I clicked it a bunch of times but i think only 1 counted.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care if every leaf is frommexicoJamaica, I want them to win
past that I don;t give a fuck, and neither should you
if the Mighty Ducks taught us anything, it’s that the Jamaican junior team can take ours.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
repy fail; Mexico is supposed to be in strikeout font, not double boxed.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Double fail since it was Trinidad & Tobago in that tournament, not Jamaica.
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And the Ducks beat them about 11-1.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 29, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Cripes, I remember the colorful jerseys and thought it was jamaica.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I have to disagree
I think it would be pretty fucking awesome if the team was from Mexico. I may like them more.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Ugh not this again
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 29, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn’t disagree more. Do you know how many guys on this board aren’t Canadian?
50% of the Chief blogging officers (Chemmy)
I know Skinny is not Canadian and I think Birky and Bower Power aren’t either. If that were the case, than 3/4 of the wouldn’t be Canadian… Enough with the xenophobia.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Born in Hamilton. Living in the states. Eligible to play for Team Canada, but they seem to have misplaced my number last Olympics.
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You’re Mike Fisher?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
You wish.
FUck.
We all wish
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Im holding out for shania
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
And Pointy Elbows
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Nov 29, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Thats why I said think for you. I was only sure you went to one of the Boston post secondary education institutes (seriously I asked you which one yesterday, and I can’t fucking remember).
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I get annoyed with the same person basically copying and pasting their comments from yesterday’s discussion. Adds nothing to me.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Nov 29, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
50% of the chief blogging officers?
So does that mean the top half of Chemmy and the bottom half of PPP?
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Born in Oakville, Ontario. But, yes, I live in the US now.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Alex Galchenyuk has knee surgery and still hasn’t played a game this year. He’ll fall (hopefully to us).
Just Saying.
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I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
Welcome home Chaim Weisswasser!
Ugh reply fail…
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Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
Welcome home Chaim Weisswasser!
by happiergilmore on Nov 29, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
If You Dream It
….he will come
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 29, 2011 2:32 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
wooooo! awesome. and onto twitter it goes
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armstrong goes the other way due to salary reasons, of course
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Army gives up #9, Ryan agrees to pass to ihm on occasion
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
A line of Ryan-Connolly-Armstrong would be pretty ok.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Armstrong has previously worn 19 and 20. He gives it up to Ryan.
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Both 19 and 20 are currently worn by Leafs.
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LOOK IF YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE SHOPS ABOUT A TRADE THAT WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN AT LEAST GET THE MINUTE DETAILS CORRECT
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sunuva. Forgot about Steckel. Okay, so, uh, Armstrong reverses 20 and wears 2. Wait, crap.
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If we made Lupul change his number because of Ryan he might score MORE goals!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
OH MY GOD THIS IS SO OFF TOPIC BUT I DON'T CARE
on a facebook page for my brand I’m managing, we posted a question about where people most like to watch a hockey game.
someone writes this on the wall. best comment I have ever read.
WATCH THE GAME COZY IN BED WITH MY PARTNER AND OUR 3 LOVELY CATS, Siamese called Aqua, Cornish rex cat called Saphire and a Bengal Princee cat called Ruby Tuesday, WE LOVE THEM TO PIECES THEY ARE OUR OUR LEGGED CHILDREN
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
hey! i love my legless children just as much as you love your cats lady!
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
by elseldo on Nov 29, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Jargon Scott. Best ever riff on.... legless dogs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7HQEvMzmI
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Nov 29, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I just want to hug every cat.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Nov 29, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This comment is addressed to jeffgm
You seem to think Giggy was worse in TO than he actually was. At one point you even suggested he had a “0.900ish” save percentage.
In fact Giggy had the second highest save percentage of a Leafs goaltender since the lockout (behind Reimer), with a 0.906. In the future please check your facts and we can avoid these arguments in the future.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’m feigning speechlessness and trying really hard to drop the entire conversation because I don’t want to hurt people’s feelings. Though if you want a serious answer I can provide one.
you actually think you will hurt peoples feelings?
that’s pretty funny
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly too many people are being chastised around here.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
what? that makes no sense, you either don’t want to hurt peoples feelings or dont think you will hurt peoples feelings, but if it was the 2nd, then why did you bring it up?
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
yup, and it’s easy to see the more you keep commenting
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t want to start a feud, but I’ve seen it happen about 10 times from jeffgm so far..
1. He says something stupid. Not like a dumb hockey conversation.. we know that happens, but he just says something strange, like “i don’t want to hurt feelings”
2. Someone explains that his suggestion is out to lunch, eg Jared above
3. He dismisses what was just said, often by acting like we don’t understand him.
Constant pattern.
concise and correct
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
no, what we have here is a failure to absorb information and take criticism
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Its a quote from Civil war by Guns N Roses I believe. Which is a quote in itself, I don’t know from where.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
the quote is originally from Cook Hand Luke, excellent film by the way
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Fergus is dead?
/rehashingfaliedkarinajoke
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
It’s tough to work out such a bad signal to noise ratio.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Why do you have a display picture
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
How do you feign speechlessness? You’re either talking or you aren’t.
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
hand signals
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
If a tree falls in the woods I don’t give a shit.
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
just because everyone thinks you are wrong doesn’t mean they arn’t listening, it means your argument is shitty and isn’t changing anyone’s mind
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
If I really wanted to fit in here I would just agree with everything that is said…then everyone would like me. So sad to be me. Sigh.
fitting in has nothing to do with agreeing, it has a lot to do with making good, concrete arguments that are not based in fantasy land
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I really don’t buy into the whole chastising people thing. That and it’s the internet for the love of god.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 29, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
all that it takes for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
PRECISELY
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
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Ok I give up, I know this is a quote from something, or at the very least sounds similar to a quote from something but I can remember which
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
it’s a paraphrase of Edmund Burke
actual quote is “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the time many people disagree with Steve Burtch and others, it doesn’t mean we don’t like him (necessarily) or that he doesn’t fit in.
by theninjagreg on Nov 29, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Speak for yourself.
Just kidding Steve!
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
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And yet we’ve got a bunch of people here who regularly have disagreements. But don’t worry.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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Nah
Leafer1984 and I agree on everything.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I told you, if you agreed with me more, you would be right a whole lot more often
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Nah
People disagree on lots. For example I pushed Lupul and Gunnar hard this season. Birky has been pushing trade Schenn for a serious piece for ages. If you are willing to back up your opinion with research or accept that others disagree, you can be as contrarian as you wish.
But you should be prepared that we have an “equal opportunity asshole”
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I just push buttons
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
all of em
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think the issue around here is that people have very short fuses and quickly jump on others when they disagree (whether they may actually have a valid point or not). Also, most like to enlist the help of others in a ’tag-team" effort. Sometimes this can be fun (see the hab (I forget the name of it) blog counterpart on 10/06/2011).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
people who have “short fuses” go off on them usually have a history to go with it, and it is not a snap judgement thing, and no one “enlists” the help of others, others just see someone saying something objectionable and join in
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I was trying to lighten the mood by going in the direction of trolling the habs blog for the first game this season. I believe this is something we can all come together around.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
why does the mood need to be lightened? I’m in a great mood
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Me too!
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I think the fact is that the general consensus, here and among most people is that the Giggy/Toskala-Blake deal was a slam dunk for this team. If you’re going to argue otherwise you need to make a really really solid case, probably in a whole fanpost, and be prepared to defend your point of view with evidence.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I completely agree on the trade and i think 99.99% (heck, everyone but jeffgm) on here would agree, but how long do you go beating a dead horse. Giggy trade was definitely goodGREAT. I feel confident in this knowledge and don’t feel it necessary to convince others of my opinion. Is it more of a “having the last word” sort of thing?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Mouthing? I moved my lips and I used my hands in a gesture of derision but I didn’t say anything.
/Trudeau’d
by ShahofToronto on Nov 29, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
My name is Judge.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
by JP Nikota on Nov 29, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I want to see the serious answer!
Door number two!
The box! I want the box!
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
This will taken out of context but no other hockey website or media program matches the hockey insight, debating skill and attitude except for maybe having Don Cherry shouting down Ron Mclean during coach’s corner.
Huh?
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 29, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
There is a reason why, we like to keep this site a cut above the rest. We dont want it to turn into HockeyBuzz forums or HFBoards. We like to discuss hockey intelligently
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I don’t know much about HFBoards but Hockeybuzz’s forums made me lose brain cells every time I tried to read anything in the past
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
hfboards gets a bad rap. There are many knowledgeable people on there. I don’t visit anymore, but back when I could remember my password, I met several great hockey minds there, and a few years later, I still see some of those names.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
That was back before sbn was invented. They’ve probably all fled in terror by this point.
/s
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
The talent pool has surely been diluted, but I’ll sometimes google some obscure event or tidbit and find my answer there.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to be very polite. His save% simply wasn’t that bad.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I don’t think I called giggy bad, horrid or terrible on the leafs.
I said he was a marginal improvement to Toskala.
That he underperformed his his career average.
Also I made another comment of how his salary is out of line with his performance.
But when it comes to save % marginal improvements can make a huge difference.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
toskala 874
giggy 906
that is a bit more than marginal
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 29, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Proteautype Adam Proteau
In all my years in the Leafs dressing room, I’ve never saw it as loose as it was today. Smiles, jokes & optimism everywhere.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Nov 29, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This makes me happy and worried at the same time.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
I don’t give even one shit that the Leafs winning has pulled all of the fairweather fans and bandwagoners out of the woodwork. There’s is nothing cooler than hearing a GO LEAFS GO chant drown out a home crowd on the other side of the continent.
I love the Toronto Maple Leafs so much.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 4:06 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I feel strange feelings for other Leafs fans
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
KESSEL NOW 1ST IN ALL-STAR VOTING!
Bleeding Blue and White since '88
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Still gets drafted last.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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I also write things about stuff over at the Leafs Nation
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 29, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
TERRANCE!!!
LSU Tigers: 12-0 (8-0 SEC)
SEC West Champions
Bring on Georgia!
by TheOtherAndrew on Nov 29, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Unless they make him captain. In which case he starts drafting all ex-Sens, starting with Heatley and Chara
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Nov 29, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
If he is I’m starting a fund to send him a fancy SLR camera. I want him to really capture the pain on Ovechkin’s face
by ShahofToronto on Nov 29, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
If i were kessel and had any clout, I’d get together with the other allstars and make a pact to draft ovi last, him and his smug-crooked smile!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
If I were Kessel I’d take a picture of myself laughing with Ron Wilson in the Honda CRX and send it to Ovechkin…
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
If I were Kessel, I’d have auctioned it off for charity.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Nov 29, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
If I were Kessel there are so many things I would do that aren’t these
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I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
Welcome home Chaim Weisswasser!
by happiergilmore on Nov 29, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
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