Lend Me Your Links, Please
by JP Nikota on Nov 3, 2011 7:01 AM EDT
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PrintAs I collected the links for this FTB, I came across two sites that weren't in my Google Reader. The first, Puck Drunk Love is brand new, but already has a team of writers contributing to it, and I expect to link more stories from them in the future. The second, Dirty Dangle, has been around for a while, but somehow hasn't been added to my list until now.
What you, the lurking wordsmith, should take away from this, is that if you have a blog - even if it's one that's been around for a while - and you're producing Leafs or NHL-related work that isn't being linked here, let us know! Our e-mails are all at the bottom of the main page, so don't hesitate to give us a shout. Skinny, birky, Bower, or I will be glad to add you to our links buffet.
It's possible that not everyone's page gets linked every day, but if you are consistently being left out, make yourself heard. To mix metaphors, the squeaky mouse gets the clicks.
So, from here, let's get right into it. Plenty of recaps and game notes on tap today.
Leafs Links:
Leafs win again, but this is not your older brother’s Devils
I like this title (though I've shortened it) from Michael Langlois' game recap and notes.
Delaying The Inevitable Or: How Long Will The Losing Streak Be This Season?
Danny Gray at The Leafs Nation is bracing himself.
Vintage Leafs: Pictures like this are the reason I maintain this blog
Good old Tim. Go browse around at Vintage Leafs. It's way better than doing work.
Game In 10: Game 12, Leafs at Devils
The latest installment from Mislav Jantoljak at MLHS.
The New October’s Very Own
Jeffler really, really likes Phil Kessel.
Game In 10: Game 12, Leafs at Devils
The latest installment from Mislav Jantoljak at MLHS.
Martin Brodeur Returns, Defense Mostly Absent in New Jersey Devils 5-3 Loss to Toronto Maple Leafs
This is one of the most thorough game recaps I've seen in quite some time, so give'r a read. From John Fischer at In Lou We Trust.
Other Hockey Links:
Around the League in 33 Bands
This was written by Tim at Puck Drunk Love. Some of these choices are pretty good, actually.
Pilot error blamed in Russian jet crash
Investigators say the brakes were inadvertently applied during attempted takeoff, and that the co-pilot was on some sort of medication for epilepsy that he shouldn't have been, if he was to be flying a plane. From Vladimir Isachenkov of the AP.
Joffrey Lupul leads Leafs past Devils
"It was a little harrowing at times," Wilson said. "It was like when you’re in one of those motorcycles with a sidecar and you’re in the sidecar and have no idea which way it’s going. But in the end you get to your destination." Recap from Dave Shoalts at the Globe.
Age Is Not An Issue In The NHL
Dirty Dangle's title is somewhat misleading. What we have here is a list of some old guys and a list of some young guys that are off to hot starts so far this season.
The Quiet Room Alumni Edition: Eric Lindros
How Keith Jones saved the day. Interesting stuff from Jo Innes at Backhand Shelf.
Alex Ovechkin, Team Dynamics, and Not Getting the Tap in a Big Situation
More from Justin Bourne. Honestly, I wasn't really aware that a lot of players would swear at their coaches. I mean, swearing while speaking to them is different than at them.
On-Ice Trends: Goalies, You May Wanna Give That Puck a Squeeze
To prove this would require a ridiculous amount of study, but it's an interesting trend to wonder about. Maybe Justin Bourne has been watching a lot of Leafs games, lately.
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Nothing says thank you for the linkage like
Wayne Newton I don’t really listen to Wayne Newton. So, how about Lupul eh?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 7:27 AM EDT reply actions
Also, Danke Schenn.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent piece by puck Drunk Love. the Maple Leafs one works.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
every single one works on every level, seriously fantastic writting
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
New Jersey Devils are Wu Tang Clan
They come from undesirable areas around New York. Have experience dodging caps.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that whole thing is brilliant from start to finish.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Made me laugh.
same with the Habs
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Leafs being compared to U2 but it fits.
Living and dying with the Blue and White, season to season, game to game, shift to shift.
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
me too, but it does fit
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
reading it now :)
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d say the Calgary Flames are more like Nickelback. Their peak of success came in the mid-2000s, but since then, they’ve been producing the same stuff year after year. Probably should break up, but likely aren’t going to.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes but Nickelback does the same shit over and over because they’re successful. Calgary does the same shit because they’re stupid
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
And Calgary was successful once upon a time. Plus, despite the fact everyone finds them annoying or mentally deficient, they’ve got a popular following.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious and perfect. Would read again.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahah that’s funny stuff. Loved it.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Loved it. It’ll be hard though for it not to ruin my enjoyment of the Replacements on some level going forward.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
At 18 years old he’s their best defender (can anyone even name another defender on the Devils?)
Without having watched a TON of either player, I’d say right now he’s already about as good as Victor Hedman.
I thought volchenkov was gonna be a perfect fit for them…..
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
As Chemmy has speculated, it seems like shutdown defensemen simply can’t switch teams.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
He was good enough to wipe out Lombardi twice. I cringed a bit every time he got hit
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
At least we know Lombardi can take a hit without worrying he’ll break again.
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I think Lombardi is really glad hes been able to take a hit without any issues. This guy is such a nice bonus for us this year
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
So did I but it’s exactly what he needs. If he feels fine after those he’ll get more confident and push a little harder.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully. I don’t think he’s looked tentative along the boards at all but if he feels more confident now then all the better
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m enjoying it as well, both goalies are pretty much at retirement age.
Anyone know how their goaltending prospects are looking for the future? or will they have to make a trade if one of (or both) Hedberg/Berodeur retires at seasons end?
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they have two prospects that look have the ceiling of career AHL starter, they really need to trade for Schneider or Bernier or something, hell even a guy like Enroth, Irving or Rynnas
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
whoever has an extra goalie can fleece the hell out of NJ, since they can’t afford to wait to develop a goalie of their own.
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Schneidah
In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case
yeah, with Lack looking pretty legit in the AHL they can afford that
which terrifies me because of the “Parise for Schneider” talk*
*talk not official anywhere but among fans
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
So that’s Ryannas and Bozak for Parise then.
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by torleafsfan29 on Nov 3, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
God I wish
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Scrivens, Kadri, Blacker + 1st?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
that 1st would have to be conditional on him resigning
also they would need to take salary back
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d still go for it.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
If they take komi i wouldnt even worry about the 1st being conditional
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Komi the 20mins a game +3 dude from last night? /notserious
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No room for your trade under the cap right now is what he is saying
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i’m just saying i have no problem parting with those assets. even if the price is high.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
well yah, me either, especially since i am sure Burke wouldn’t trade for Parise if he wasn’t confident he would resign
I just want that extra layer of comfort incase worst case scenario happens and he runs off to LA or something
like a 2nd if he doesnt sign or something instead of a 1st
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The upside is if the Leafs trade for him now the package wouldn’t be as steep as it would be if he still had a year left
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If you had Zach Parise, would you take that group for him? I certainly wouldn’t. You’re looking at a young defender (Schenn, Franson, Gardiner, Aulie), a young roster player (Frattin, Kadri, Bozak, Kulemin), a top prospect (Colborne, Blacker), and a 1st round pick.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
if you know you can’t resign him and you are getting no better offers you do
anyone remember the Kovalchuk trade?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, ok. In the incredibly unlikely scenario that would actually happen (Zero chance of resigning, no better offers), then sure.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
yah, past that we get into the what ARE you willing to give up max for a guy who might only be a Leaf for 3 months and probably wont bring the Leafs a cup with their current roster?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The Devils will get better offers. Also the Leafs don’t have the cap space right now to just take him on, which means the Devils will need to take back salary. That sours it a bit
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeesh, for that price, no thank you. I love the hell out of Zach Parise. But he’s already 27 and has exploded one of his knees.
If we’re ever going to trade for a unicorn this is the price it will cost unless the player has completely fallen out of favour with the team.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are the kinds of trades I love. Young guys who fell out of favour with their management/coach, looking for a fresh start, but come cheap because there are questions about attitude/productivity. Buy low sell high kind of guys. Like Lupul?
Come get your duds in order...
DAVID KREJCI
1 point, -6 so far this year
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m in!
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
Last 3 seasons
73 points, 52 points, 62 points
Problem is he’s RFA at the end of the year and probably due for a raise.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but I don’t want to trade for half a season of a unicorn.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
There’s no way Burke pulls the trigger without getting some sense from the agent about Parise’s intentions. It’s only tampering if you talk directly with the player right?
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think you can talk to his agent ABOUT THAT PLAYER either, unless the team with his rights gives permission
i.e. NJ would have to give Parise & his agent permission to talk to other teams.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you are pretty much handcuffed from talking to anyone but the GM about him unless given permission from said GM.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
Well, we know Mike Gillis wouldn’t give permission for sure
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
From watching the game last night, I really don’t think that Parise looked very good playing center. While there’s no question I’d like to have him on the team, I still believe that we need an “elite” center rather than another winger. Especially if there’s some chance that Grabo doesn’t come back next year.
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
DAVID KREJCI
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t play centre last night. He was left wing on a line with Kovalchuck and some 21 year-old nonentity.
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
Adam Henrique!
Ya Parise and Kovalchuk looked awful together. They should totally unload Parise to let Kovalchuk roam free.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there is a reasonable chance that Enroth will be the best goaltender of all the backup prospects out there. He looks really good.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
Markstrom, Lehner, Bernier, Schneider… ya there’s quite a few up and comers.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t forget Salak for Chicago, he is very good but getting no press
also holtby
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Holtby is really good, but he’s 3rd string right now because of Neuvirth/Vokoun
I guess the same could be said of Markstrom, but he may be playing himself into the NHL as Clemmensen is injured.
And that PIT AHL goalie is looking damn good too.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
ah yes, Thessian, lots of good young goalers out there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Vancouver’s got Lack, who last time I heard was apparently looking good.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Forgot abbout Markstrom he may be the best. I feel like Enstrom and Lindbak are always forgotten and they look great.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
Agreed. Mitch Korn Mitch Korn Mitch Korn. Nashville owns.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be shocked if Nashville just picked some guy off the street and taught him to become an NHL goalie just to prove how good their system is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Mitch Korn!
Anders Lindback
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Tuuka Rask anyone?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck that guy
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
touche.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Except against Kessel. The best part about him getting robbed is him staring at the net turning around and just fucking smiling.
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every day I love that guy a little bit more.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson on Reimer
I hope that everything will be all clear and he’ll start. If not, I’m content to use The Monster again.
C’mon man, you’re killing us.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
because gustavsson is finding his game and they are trying to boost his trade value?
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Giving up 3 goals a game every game gets tiring after a while
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Gustavsson’s playing like a decent backup. He has a .907 in his last four games.
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Ya but not many teams are looking for backups right now. Just starters.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
tell that to Burtch.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re all puzzled by this. It’s great for the monster’s confidence that the coach has faith in him though.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s fine to have faith in him, but even stud #1 goalies don’t usually get both games in a back-to-back.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
scrivens has also been less than impressive this season so far, maybe they are not confident he wont get lit up like christmas?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
But Scrivens was lights out for for 64 mins of preseason hockey against junior aged kids and AHLers.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
he had one shutout where he played well but not spectacular because he didn’t have to be. he has not been lights out for any significant length of time at all this season
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Gus was worse against the same competition.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I took that as sarcasm. i.e. It’s easy for Scrivens to play well in the preseason because it’s garbage competition.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
ah, it thought you were talking about the AHL, where Gus was unbeatable last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Once Leafs fans hate a player it runs deep and it’s near impossible to reverse. They will see only the negative in every performance and none of the positive.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t hate Gus. I’m probably more optimistic about his future than most people here. But I don’t understand why he’s playing all the back-to-back games when a) it’s rare that goalies do that, and b) you can’t even use the excuse that he’s earned it.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
the other options are less attractive, that’s why
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Less attractive because of 5 AHL games? Where he posted 2.41 and .908?
Anyway, I’m not trying to be belligerent.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
and has never played in the NHL before? yeah
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Scrivens and Rynnas are both attractive options. We’re only talking about one game here, and getting Gus some rest before he (quite possibly) has to play again on Saturday.
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by Back In Black on Nov 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
If they weren’t confident they could play him they should’ve brought up Rynnas.
Oh well, I’m looking forward to winning tonight despite Gus allowing something like 3 goals on 15 shots.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Scrivens is ahead of Rynnas on the depth chart right now.
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Agreed. But if the reason he’s not playing is that he has had a poor AHL season so far, then he shouldn’t have been brought up.
by potvin vs hextall on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
NHL practice (and more face to face time with Allaire) is very good for Scrivens, even if he doesnt get the ice time
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Further
I think they really wanted to see Rynnas get a bunch of games to reprove himself to management. With Scrivens riding pine in the N, Rynnas can start in the A.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
“Re-prove himself to management” sounds way too much like a narrative.
Rynnas still needs to work on adapting to North American ice (he’s still horrendous playing the puck). From that perspective it makes sense to get him games in a N.A. rink. Scrivens gets rewarded with one-on-one training with Alliare.
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Gustavsson is playing fine right now and he’ll get plenty of time on the bench when Reimer’s back.
I’d put him in net tonight, he didn’t get a workout last night; New Jersey had five shots in the 3rd.
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Hope you’re right. Lehner looked fresher on Sunday.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
Gus did face a lot of work against Pitt the night before.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention every single player on the Leafs was atrocious during that sens game
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
terrible terrible game
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not. Scrivens or Reimer.
Fuck this back-to-back with Gus stuff.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
And if Scrivens gets pumped tonight?
“The Devil you know is better than the one you don’t”.
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I’d take a fresh goalie instead of one that Leafs keep throwing out there night in night out that clearly isn’t a starter.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Columbus kinda blows, I’m not too worried about it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Said the same thing vs OTT the last time RW threw Gustavsson out there for a back to back.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and the main problem that game wasn’t goaltending, it was shitty defense plus an inability to put the puck in the net
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the GWG.
I dunno I think it’s a dumb idea. Gus is gaining confidence, playing well, and they’re running him into the ground.
I don’t even want Reimer playing every single back to back.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
if the leafs had played at half ability they would have ground the Sens into dust
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya my point is really regarding the Leafs goalies playing back to backs. Not a big fan.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i know, just saying that the team needs to play well too
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter, they're putting Gustavsson in anyway
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Reimer to remain on IR….monster will start tonight.
sigh.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much, or just symptons, or whatever, but it’s preventing him from playing.
FREE SCRIVENS
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Gus seems to do fine in small doses, but this will be his 7th start if he plays tonight, 6th in a row
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Columbus kinda blows, I’m not too worried about it
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Here come the Toronto Maple Leafs Slumpbusters!
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Other than generally being terrible, Columbus isn’t currently mired in some sort of slump.
For instance, Jersey’s PP had been stank-tastic coming into last night’s game, so of course they pot two PPG.
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Yeah, it’s not a slump if you continue to suck.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Next test – any rookies yet to score their first NHL goal?
Any toronto natives?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
rick nash
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet Jesus.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not in Toronto tonight. Doesn’t that curse only exist in Toronto?
"You can't always get what you want, the Rolling Stones song was right"
Brian Burke
In Columbus
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Of note: Gustavsson has started in back to back games 4 times.
1st time he won both, back to back, putting up .944 and .972
2nd time he won the first game with a .935, then lost with a .813
3rd time he lost both, with a .893 each time
4th time he won the first game with a .919 then lost with a .900 (PIT/OTT last week)
There was also a back to back where he lost the first game with a .903 then came in for relief of Giguere and got the win (faced 8 shots,1.00 sv%)
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gustajo01/gamelog/2010/
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gustajo01/gamelog/2011/
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gustajo01/gamelog/2012/
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs haven’t won a back to back game this year yet.
In Columbus would be a great place to change this.
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/raised eyebrow
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In Columbus
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If Gus is finding ways to win its not necessary. It was frustrating when they kept playing Gus over Reimer last year when Gus was losing. That being said, I would rather see scrivens tonight because its a back to back.
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Brodeur should retire this morning. Gump Worsley, Curtis Joseph and Brodeur all with 352 career loses. Would be cool to have a 3 way tie with an exact number.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions
He probably wants to own every single goalie record.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Fun fact: I wasn’t even born the last time we had a Player of the Month. Haha.
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Thank you for making me even more depressed
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Shouldn’t out be out, rebelling?
Wearing your hair in curlers, or something equally defiant and youthful?
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Or in class or something?
(Nevermind that I’m at work)
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
OCCUPY EVERYTHING!!1
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by Blinky on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DAMN RIGHT! OFF THE PPPIGS!
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That fuckin owned
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The Cartman thing just weirded me out, but overall that was awesome
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh ya. That was fucked up
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by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
For all that last night was a bit of a disaster defensively, the last period was solid. As Wilson pointed out, the Leafs kept the Devils from doing anything while rolling out all 4 lines so that no one is too gassed for tonight. Hooray!
Come get your duds in order...
Do we really think it was a disaster defensively up until that point? Two powerplay goals against and only 22 total shots (despite 3 NJ powerplays). I thought it was alright.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
You’re right, it was the PK that was depressing. I’m also remembering Luke Schenn doing his best inanimate object impression on the Clarkson goal.
Come get your duds in order...
Schenn’s play on that goal was a screamer. Meaning I was screaming at my TV. I say scratch Schenn for tonight and put Franson in. He can’t be worse, can he?
Before anyone goes bat shit on me for saying this, please note, I’m not advocating a Franson over Schenn position for ever. Just tonight. Obviously Schenn has a long term future with the club and I’m confident he will find his game again. Form temporary/class permanent and all that. I just think that with Schenn’s declining ice time and obvious struggles, he might benefit from a night off and Franson will benefit from getting another shot.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t an early benching last season lead to Schenn turning into a monster once he got back in the lineup? This may be exactly what the doctor ordered.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 3, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought that the Clarkson fight was a frustrated Schenn doing something to try and turn his play around.
Truthfully he’s been a little out of sorts since Neil essentially jumped him in the 2nd game of the season.
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Yeah, this was my thinking too. Hopefully it was cathartic and he can relax now and play a good, simple game.
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When Schenn decided that fight was over, it was over. He tossed Clarkson around like a child.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
He was channelling his inner Weber
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Schenn’s a crappy fighter for a guy his size.
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Not that it matters in any real evaluation of him
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yeah, he pretty much wins with brute force and not actual fighting skill
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Schenn also generally fights guys who don’t do much else other than fight.
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I don’t think Chris Neil would pick so many fights with Schenn if he thought Schenn was a good fighter.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
That’s more evidence Chris Neil’s a piece of shit than anything.
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How much more evidence did we really need though?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
you can never have too much
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Like to see hime shed some weight. Looks slow
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
And then there is Komisarek – who lost weight thsi summer and looks improved
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree. He hasn’t been perfect, but he certainly looks better. I’m impressed that he made the effort to at least work on one of his most glaring shortcomings.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Further lending creedence to my firm belief that there’s a cycle with these things: Bulk up to get stronger one summer, lose weight to get faster next summer
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Schenn needs 40 days and nights in the desert where he will meet the devil, defeat temptation and realize what he needs to do to save us all
/OLAS’d
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You wanna send him to the same jail Bulin spent his summer in?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
worked for him
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a look at the odds of Grabovski, MacArthur, and Kulemin becoming 70 point players and when we might expect it to happen.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
My money is on Kessel and Lupul right now…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I did an earlier post on Kessel, Kadri, and Colborne as well if you want to check it out. My data shows Kessel is on pace to produce like a first or second overall pick.
Lupul would be on the old side for getting to 70 points at this stage in his career. Especially given he was a 7th overall pick.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
It’s a nice change of pace to know that the Leafs top 6 includes actual top 6 players for once.
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If somehow Parise came to the leafs, who do we ship out?
Connolly Lupul Kessel is playing well, after Lupul’s performance last night and for the start of the season, I wouldn’t want to let him go. We can resign him fairly and and to a short deal, keep him around.
Connolly we could part with, but he’s still on contract for another year, and he’s not a 3rd-line player.
We all love Kulemin & Grabbo, wouldn’t want them to go. Grabbo might command too much money so maybe that’s what happens, and Connolly shifts down in that case.
Or we let Macarthur go, but then who plays with Kulemin & Grabbo? Lupul?
MacArthur is a better third liner than second liner in my opinion. Not sure that the Leafs re-sign Grabbo moving into next year. I have a bad feeling about what his contract demands will be in the wake of the Leino deal. Semin is the only comparable or possibly superior free agent.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
if the Leafs trade for Parise they probably lose one of their top 6 going back the other way
if they sign him as a UFA then they probably trade one of their top 6
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Parise – Grabbo – Kulemin
Lupul – Connolly – Kessel
Macarthur – Lombardi – Armstrong
goodbye Bozak,
Kadri and Colborne continue developing until Lupul and Connolys contracts expire
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
That’s a great two-way line to go against the top unit when we’re at home.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
hell yes
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Presented Without Comment
In 72 career games, Jonas Gustavsson has allowed 3 or more goals 44 times.
In 72 career games, Jonas Gustvasson has had a save percentage of worse than 0.900 39 times.
Basically, if a team manages 30 shots on Gus, they’re more likely than not to score 3 or more times.
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Screw the Buffalo media. Ryan Miller sucks, can’t stop team that get a 2 on 1 every shift, faces 120 shots/60.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: FREED. The league is doomed.
"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
the Hartnel goal was an absolute laser
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Both of those shots from the left wing were perfect under the bar.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Clearly Miller has no glove hand just like Reimer.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
SIEVE! SIEVE! SIEVE!
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved when I saw that he had 11 shots against in 6:36 and they pulled him. Maybe that was the skaters fault…
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Giroux had 4 odd-man rushes during those 6 minutes.
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
Schenn
He had 10 mins of ice time last night. Does he finally sit tonight and let Franson get in a game?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, or at least he should. I just posted a comment above saying exactly this. It makes sense in my view.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell, Franson might even have some insight into playing Columbus way more than the Leafs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Schenn is one of the golden boys so it might be hard to sit him. Especially for Franson who I think Wilson dislikes. Road game against the worst team in the league should see them switch places.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilson sat schenn last year pretty readily
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
They benched Schenn last year, he turned it around.
I get the Franson didn’t look terribly great in those 2 games he played, but he’s hardly getting a chance to turn it around like Schenn is.
I dunno, this just seems like as good an opportunity as any to try one game. Not like the Leafs defense are worldbeaters right now, shake it up a bit.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
the thing is the Leafs need defense that can play defense. Luke can, but isnt. Franson has never really shown that affinity. the only way this works really is if they drop gunnar off the top pair to play with one of the more vulnerable guys, but that messes with forces we should not tempt in the top pairings play
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to me Schenn’s feeling the heat to jump up into the rush, pinch from the point, generate some offense. And I get it, that’s how the Leafs want to play. And Schenn can even do that… a little.
But the thing is, it seems to me that his head has been pulled out of the defensive game he does really well at times. (e.g. Guys getting in behind him at center ice.) I wouldn’t give a damn if he got 15 points a season for the rest of his life as long as we knew he would go out there and bear-hug the other team’s 1st line into the boards and put them to sleep. We’ve got lots of guys now who can join the rush and play the PP.
They need to let him play differently, because from the looks of it, it could take a long time before he looks comfortable. Let Luke be Luke.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Schenn doesn’t move his feet. He’s probably overweight. How many times have the Leafs been burned on a breakaway because Schenn was caught flat footed in the neutral zone?
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Jagr and Clarkson breakaway goals of the top of the head
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Greening as well?
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
there is a difference between getting cherry picked (like greening and two of the jagr break aways) and just getting beaten by poor mobility and speed like the Clarkson one
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Greening was well behind the D before the puck even got to him. Clarkson made Schenn look downright awful quite frankly.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Bring back the center line offside!
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The saddest thing is that Clarkson isn’t so mobile or fast. Schenn is just slow and caught flat footed.
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he was focusing on playing the puck by knocking it down with his body and then getting his stick on it, he never even saw clarkson until it was too late.
in fact he actually twisted to his left a bit to help direct the puck, but missed and then got crossed over when Clarkson stripped him of the puck and took off and schenn was in probably the worst physical position to pivot and catch him
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Lombardi was like 20 feet away and he almost caught him though.
Lombardi is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, Lombardi is pretty ridiculous
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
He looks better almost every game. I’ve only really seen his speed unleashed in the past few games, where he just books it.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
His hands are average, but with that speed he can burn around defensemen and get at least one shot off, usually create at a chance off the rebound
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
if Lombardi had above average hands, he’d be a 1st liner instead of a 2nd liner
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
If Brown had better hands than you or me, he’d be a first liner too.
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If I had hooks instead of these fucking hands, I could make it over that wall before the guards notic….
Hey.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to have shoehorn hands
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by Isosceles Kramer on Nov 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s why it’s not a long term solution. More of a shot in the arm to both Schenn and Franson.
I’d be happy to see Gun-Pha Liles-Komi Gar-Fran for tonight. Let Franson play on his regular wing. See what happens.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell, Franson might even have some insight into playing Columbus way more than the Leafs.
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Given Schenn’s been playing 10 minutes, I’d give Franson a start tonight. If he can’t handle teh weak competition, that’s a bad sign.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m missing something.
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Columbus
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m loving this season so far… It feels great to be a leaf fan this year. It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to feel like there’s teams that we should beat, rather than facing teams that we can beat.
by RepressedOptimism on Nov 3, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
I’m watching the Game in 6 right now since I missed the game last night, that Gardiner slap pass to Grabo after entering the zone was awesome.
Good thing Grabbo got that off after fanning on it first.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
if kessel got anything on that shot at all it was in, still crazy good hand eye by Marty though, watch how he directs the puck back towards himself so he can cover it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a perfectly placed shot, just a wild save.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
it was also going like 3kph and wobbling like crazy, any mustard and its in the twine before Pie Man’s stick gets there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah my favorite part was how kind of crabbed out his glove and stick at the same time and just pulled it in towards his chest. Good save. Lucky getting the stick on it thought and if Kessel had more on that shot it was in for sure.
hmm…. I know we dont approve of rumour mongering, but Im gonna throw this out there anyways.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Tell Kadri to GTFO. He hasn’t gotten that much better, I’d tell him face to face that he’s below Colborne in the depth chart.
Kadri is a natural center
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Who’s been used almost exclusively as a wing in the pros.
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There are a significant number of NHL wingers that played centre growing up.
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yup, because most NHL wingers were the best player on their teams growing up, the best forwards play center 99 percent of the time in Jr and younger
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember I got t play center once. Felt great.
Til Grammy hacked me and I fell into the woodpile.
Bitch.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Kadri draft year. He is about on pace of where he should be
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2009e.html
But who is Ryan O’Reily looks like another great center choice by the Avs to go with their earlier draft pick of Duchene that year.
Ryan O’Reilly was their second round selection and debuted as a C at the same time as Duchenne. He led the league in rookie season at the beginning of that year than cooled off. He plays a good two way game and his offense is slowly developing as their 3rd line C.
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As Jared said below, almost all great forwards are “natural centers”. Patrick Kane, Phil Kessel, Rick Nash, etc….
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Doesn’t this guy have a pretty low credibility rating?
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good for football and basket ball
below terrible for hockey
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if its broken clock, but he definitely hit a bunch of stuff at the deadline
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so did dallas dave, who outed himself (themseves?) as a fraud, and also outed bob in his reveal post
pretty much saying that if you fake it long enough people start feeding you real stuff occasionally
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
incarcerated bob is a whiny bitch with a track record for hockey stuff worse than eklund
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ok good, i thought he nailed some shit last year. Glad to hear this guy is garbage
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
he blocked me for making fun of him on twitter when i never even tagged him or used his twitter ID in the mocking
which means he searches for people who say mean things about him and gets all highschool about it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
O_o;
yeesh
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I would say he’s not bad, actually. He definitely nailed some stuff that nobody else saw. Having said that, he fires a fair number of bullets.
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he spends more time trashing on eklund and accusing people of stealing than he does dropping rumours
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
yup, and it wouldnt bug me so much if he wasn’t such a premadonna about people making fun of him, he dishes but can’t take it
such a pathetic display
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Much like Eklund and all these other rumor-mongers, you only ever hear about the ones they get right because they never shut about it.
You never anything about the countless ones they get wrong.
And honestly that’s what I love about the TSN guys. It never comes across that they’re doing this so they can puff out their chests and say “FIrst”. They present the information with a very matter-of-fact “This is what we’ve been told”.
To a lesser extent, Kypreos is like these guys too.
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, the ‘we get things first’ part is most definitely, even sometimes explicitly a part of what TSN does. I mean, they are a media outlet… that’s normal.
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What I mean is I never get the feeling from Mac or Dreger that they’re reporting shit just so they can say they got it first.
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pretty much, because they actually try to confirm it before they report it
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
But that’s my point. They’re journalists. Their entire careers are based on reporting shit that they can say they got first.
They just happen to have integrity, and investigate things properly before throwing it out there. Also, at this point, their connections are second to none… their sources are probably most often GMs and players themselves.
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TSN has a reputation for getting things right. They don’t want to damage that either
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
easily the best MSM tv sports group – although their stupid talking in between periods is really annoying. Who is the best scorer out of a soccer player, a hockey winger and a football player? Really? That’s what you want to discuss.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved Ward’s answer. I’m a Canadian male and don’t know either of those guys.
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I thought that was MacKenzie’s answer. Ward I think was the one who correctly identified that Messi was an unreal athlete and full step ahead of his peers, unlike Kessel.
You are correct.
McKenzie: I’m gonna have to say Kessel because I don’t even know who those other guys are. I saw Messi and I thought they meant Messier. I’m pretty one-dimensional, I’m a Canadian and it’s a hockey show. If you’re gonna have a question like that put Wilt Chamberlain.
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I loved that comment. This is Leafs-Devils….don’t bring your football into here. Surely you guys can talk for 5 minutes about hockey!
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
i used to play a lot of soccer, but i honestly have a hard time looking at a video of a guy like Messi and assessing whether or not he’s really ‘a full step ahead of his peers’.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a hard time looking at soccer players and assessing whether to throw up or not. I love soccer, but how can you respect people as athletes when they’re perpetually diving to draw a penalty?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
200 goals at age 24? 4 hat-tricks already this season? 22 goals in 17 games?
Yup, he’s steps ahead. i always loved guys like Ronaldo, just sheer power, but this guy Messi… he’s like a frigging dancer, sword-fighter. Gascoigne without the mental illness. ;-)
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Messi’s fucking ridiculous.
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That was a stupid comparison. Not only because it’s stupid to compare across sports, but you take a guy like Messi and put him in any comp, it’s just not fair.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Seems like he’s faster with the ball than without it. His acceleration is unbelievable. Not to mention his vision and decision-making are next level.
I’m not a soccer expert. I watch Arsenal play but I’m a pretty casual fan. When I get to watch Barca it’s un-fucking-believable the things Messi does.
I just watch in awe. I can’t even be mad at Cesc Fabregas for going to Barca because of how ridiculous they are.
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next level. He is the definition of talisman
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And incredible that he’s practically my fucking age (which makes me feel terrible about what I’ve accomplished in life) and will be doing work for about another 10 years.
You are not Messi. Feel bad.
Along with about 7 billion others on Earth who aren’t Messi.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Be honest – it would suprise you if he wasn’t the best soccer player to ever play, by the time his career is done
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to say it, but Argentina need to win a world cup or two before that will be universally accepted. I however am satisfied that he is the best I’ve ever seen play, by a long long country mile, in both metric and imperial. that’s long
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why judge a player’s performance on what a team he plays for once every 4 years does? This makes no sense.
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by SkinnyFish on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is Soccer. Nevermind what his club team has done/will do.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying it makes sense, I’m just saying that’s the way it is. Look at the way Iniesta and Xavi are talked about since they won Euro and World. I’m not taking anything away from them, they are world beaters, but the tone in which they are discussed became much more reverential since then.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Firstly, Argentina play tournaments every two years and they were hugely unimpressive at the Copa America this summer.
Secondly, international tournaments are traditionally where players’ reputations are made. Wall to wall TV coverage is a relatively recent development. Up until 20 years ago, you’d only see 2 hours worth of highlights of your domestic league each week. The Champions’ League hadn’t been formed, so you didn’t see much European football and you definitely didn’t see any non-domestic league action.
So as late as 1994, the only time you had a chance to see a lot of world class players who played in different countries was when they played for their country every two years.
Nowadays everyone knows every player, but the first time I saw Marco van Basten play, he was scoring a hat trick against England at the European Championships.The first time I remember watching Roberto Baggio, he was busy scoring one of the greatest goals in World Cup history.
I can’t remember the first time I saw Messi, but it was probably a game in the Spanish League.
Traditionally, the World Cup is what defines your memory of a player. This is probably the first generation of players and teams who’ll be defined by the Champions’ League.
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I’m guessing you didn’t watch Zidane that much. He was the very definition of a generational talent.
Cristiano Ronaldo isn’t that far off Messi either.
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by article1 on Nov 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ronaldo is not nearly as good as messi, take away his free kick goals, see how many he has. its like saying a place kicker in football is the best player in the nfl cause of how many points he got
C ROnaldo’s biggest asset are his skills with the ball, not just set pieces.
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his biggest asset is his speed and power – if you watched him you would know, which im questioning if you do
Yes, because the guy who cheers for United in the EPL, didn’t watch CR7.
Also what do speed and power have to do with set pieces and free kick goals?
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That’s just stupid. It’s extraordinarily difficult to score from a free kick in football. Players who can do it with consistency are valued and normally among the most highly skilled on the team.
It’s not an interchangeable plug-in role the way that teams treat it in the NFL.
You’re basically saying that Ronaldo is rubbish because he’s one of the best players on his team.
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no what i was saying is that if you take away his set piece goals hes not nearly the all world player many think he is – also manchester is the only team ive ever cheered for
Yeah, but you’re massively undervaluing the level of skill it takes to be able to score from a free kick. Being able to take them that well, with that sort of consistency is part of what makes Ronaldo so good.
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i totally agree its difficult, but also i dont know if you can find a conversion rate for free kicks but honestly during is time in manchester how many free kicks did he take. as i remember pretty near all of them.
Which would be an indication that he’s the best on the team at doing it.
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Players who have operated at a similar level to Messi but who had more impressive careers include, but are not limited to:
Puskas
Di Stefano
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Maldini
van Basten
Zidane
On top of that, players of a similar talent include George Best and Garrincha.
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I love when you join in on soccer talks.
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Right, but Messi’s career is not over
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So how am I supposed to measure him against – to take one example – Ferenc Puskas?
A guy who scored 4 goals against Eintracht Frankfurt in a European Cup Final; who’s the only player to score a hat trick in 2 European Cup finals; who scored 84 goals in 85 games for Hungary and 514 goals in 529 league matches. A man who was part of the first non-British team to beat England at home – and that wasn’t a tight game. It finished 6-3 to Hungary, who then beat them again 7-1 in Budapest 6 months later.
This is a hugely difficult and pointless exercise. People forget how talented and dominant the players from bygone eras are. Today, every goal Messi scores is on youtube and he lives in an era where every match he plays is televised.
Puskas played at a time when the BBC only decided to show the game against Eintracht Frankfurt the day before the game. They spent half the match apologising for the change in the schedule and lost the feed for 20 minutes.
Messi is an awesome talent and I would not be surprised if his achievements eventually outweigh the players I listed, but I’m not going to try and work out who’s the best player of all time, because, in football, it’s pretty much unknowable.
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by article1 on Nov 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed. In related news, the only two teams I care about in the world are the Leafs and Newcastle United. I’ll take credit for the way both teams have started their campaigns.
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by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s cool man I didn’t mean for the whole thing to be long winded or anything like that.
I think, by the time he retires, he’ll be considered the best or at least one of the best of all time. You can or disagree or whatever.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He may not even be the best Argentine player to ever play
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Maradona is arguably the best player to ever live. I dont know if Messi has reached his level yet
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Messi is better. Although Maradona had more genius in him.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Maradona had God on his side.
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by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck England (Soccer wise that is). So much fucking noise about from a country that is a second rate power.
Their best finish since ’66 was 4th, and that has happened once.
And all that griping about the hand of God, as if they’ve never had success by a hand ball or a bad call.
Maradona went their team like they were pylons and scored a gorgeous goal. Two of Englands biggest soccer moments from the last 50 years are from a game they lost.
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The difference is that I hate England.
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So? Doesn’t excuse it being a generalization argument meant to put down the fandom of a team that hasn’t done very well in recent history.
Might as well go on about all the “Italian Divers” while we’re at it.
However, if you want to say “English Media Sucks” please go ahead because most of the noise comes from them, honestly.
However, if you want to say "English Media Sucks" please go ahead because most of the noise comes from them, honestly.
That’s valid, though I will add that the Canadian media serves up that bs as well. Although the whole “they are under so much pressure” excuse bugs the hell out of me because, seriously, are the Italians / Brazillians / Argentinians etc not under incredible pressure?
Let’s also be fair:
The Canadian Soccer media has no real national team (at least an interesting one who also plays international competitions) to go after and are often left to borrow from the English group for themes, started when the EPL first came across the pond (and the fact that it is an English speaking media that follows the game). They also do a very good job heaping loads of love on other squads, often Brazil, Spain, Portugal and Italy based on fan bases in Canada.
Also
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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by samspade on Nov 3, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
aaand rec’d
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Right. Not yet.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Only in terms of length. Messi plays another five years the way he’s playing now, there won’t be this argument anymore.
I dont disagree, but who’s to say next year he disappears. He hasn’t reached Maradona level yet
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But this was the point. When his career is done…not now
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s awfully difficult to keep that level of play up in this day and age.
Players play far more and they don’t get the time off that they did even 15 years ago.
Burnout and/or serious injury is a very real danger.
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Ronaldinho comes to mind. What a fall from grace that was.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re thinking Ronaldo
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no i know who im talking about, im sure you can dig up some pictures of him at the end of his barca career and the total downslide of his career at ac, he got very fat and lazy
Really? Cuz he ended his european football career in Milan and he wasn’t fat there. It was ROnaldo.
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No, Ronaldinho put the pounds.
Before and after. I believe it got a lot worse, but care not to dig out those shots.
And when Brazillian Ronaldo got a bit hefty, he was still pretty damn good.
I still see a 6 pack..
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Or – if you want – Marco van Basten. Retired in 1994 after the best part of two years out with injury. So he barely played after the age of 28. That – and Ruud Gullit’s feud with the manager – cost the Dutch in 1994.
The other one is Ronaldo. The Brazilian one. It’s been forgotten just how terrifying he was at Barcelona. He was like Messi, only six inches taller and faster. Then he went to Inter, got two horrendous knee injuries and was never the same.
That’s the two best centre forwards I ever saw. One forced to retire by injury, the other whose body never equalled his talent.
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I think you’ve adequately made your point. Isnt’ going to stop people. Still, impressive bits of sports history you have locked away there.
So, I kinda got an Italy vibe off you – what teams/clubs do you follow?
Me?
I’m Scottish. I’ve spent my life watching football. It’s easier for me to watch a game of football than it is hockey.
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I love the cross-over talk here. Soccer is my first love. I always seem to take a lot of shit from that from my hockey only friends. Glad to see I’m not alone.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Not gonna lie, you’re probably my favourite person to talk football with
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It’s because I like the Italians, isn’t it?
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Yup, pretty much.
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That was McKenzie
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Either way, I’m sure a real hockey source will address this if it has any value at all.
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yup, especially in toronto
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah who would he be playing in the pros for anyway? Not Philly, Vancouver or LA. He could probably find NHL time in Nashville or Columbus – don’t buy it, he seems to have taken his original demotion pretty well.
We haven’t heard a peep from him since we went to the minors. Which is probably for the best anyway
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah who would he be playing in the pros for anyway? Not Philly, Vancouver or LA. He could probably find NHL time in Nashville or Columbus – don’t buy it, he seems to have taken his original demotion pretty well.
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its not an unheard of move (check out Bobby Ryan). But seriously he really hasn’t obliterated the AHL to be demnading anything.
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Kadri should just be glad he’s in the Leafs system and not say, the Wings system
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's my favourite player on the team?
why it’s this man right here, (I’m sure that’s how you pronounce his name)
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Well, Phil did tweet it last night.
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Are you sure?
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Hahahah, oh WOW, he deleted it! Did anyone else see that message last night?
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I saw it
It wasn’t Phil. It was Phil in the same sense that Chemmy is Felix Potvin
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wait, chemmy isnt the real felix potvin?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
cats aren’t sandwiches?
fork.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
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His name is listed as "The Thrill"
Why did this trick people?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
plus
it’s way too verbose. real phil doesn’t talk that much.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs need 78 points from their remaining 70 games to be a lock to make the playoffs.
That is entirely within the realm of possibility.
THIS particular team probably gets stomped in 5 games. But PLAYOFFS!!!1
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I don’t see us being better than a 1st round team, but I think the Leafs could take a team to 6 or 7, keep it close.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Right now they’ve been the quintessential “Good Bad Team”; a team that’s capable of beating anybody that’s mediocre to awful (Leafs record against these teams – 7-1-1) and who struggled mightily against the upper-crust (1-2-0)
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Simply put, when they play well (e.g. vs. PIT), they can beat those teams. When they play like crap (vs. BOS) or make some awful mistakes (vs. PHI), that’s where those teams burn them.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me a bit of when Atlanta jumped out to a great record to start the season and then fell back to earth and missed the playoffs entirely. But hey, baby steps
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d happily get swept at this point.
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As long as its not against the Canadiens or Sens I agree fully.
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Canadiens haven’t won the season series against Toronto post-lockout. We’re not getting swept by them.
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For sure and Ottawa shouldn’t make it. All I am saying is I don’t think I could handle making the playoffs just to get swept by one of those two teams.
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Remember the time we swept Ottawa after they finished 19 pts ahead of us in the standings? Good times…
Can we just pause for a moment and contemplate what the scalp cost of tickets will be to those games when they happen? It’s going to be criminal and therefore, I will be watching on TV, which makes me sad and happy all at the same time.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Face on 300s for regular season is about $60. Secondary market is $100. For playoffs 1st round, face will be about $150 and secondary about $300.
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price isnt THAT bad really, its trying to get one
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re talking about the purples right? $300 to sit in the purples?
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So my dad has some access to seasons in blues, I think 86 or 92 regular. What do you think they’ll cost for playoffs?
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For the 1st round it’s about 3 times regular season prices. 5 for the 2nd round, 7 for the 3rd, and 10x for the Finals.
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I heard people were paying $10,000 for finals tickets in Vancouver this year
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
people are idiots
I love the Leafs as much as anyone, but unless I’m a millionaire there is no fucking way i am dropping 10G’s on tickets to a hockey game
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I would sell the rights to my first born son for tickets on the glass to Game 7 of a Cup finals that had the Leafs in it.
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus plane tickets.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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If I decide to start my own blog, can I take “Tothelinebutnotout” as my site name?
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Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
I’ve already copyrighted that name as the title of my upcoming DVD compilation of Leafs hockey in the post-lockout era.
Can’t wait for the Greg Millen autobiography: “I think it changed direction on the way to the net.”
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Ray Ferraro mixed up Gustavsson and Gardiner last night.
Even Joe Bowen couldn’t mangle the names that badly.
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Daugavins
I was listening to that game on the radio and — wow Joe, it’s three syllables!
I tried to play that drinking game….6 beers later….
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Last year on the PK the leafs goalie’s save % (.825), below the league average (.870). Reimer was best at .855 and Monster worse at .784. I’m not sure much has changed this year. Wilson did well in San Jose with PK and PP so I think the problem is more about goaltending and special teams then coaching perse.
i don’t see how this is a logical conclusion. if anything, Reimer’s numbers were better than league average 5-on-5, and worse than league average on the PK. Which would indicate there’s something about the PK that makes goalies let in more goals than they otherwise should.
in other words, the PK is fucking awful.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
If you accept that SV% on PK is a largely measure of goalie skill then Reimer is better Gus on PK and both are below average on PK.
If you you argue that SV% on PK is a largely a measure of team defensive PK then your point is more valid.
I think GA at Even strength vs GA at PK relative to league average would give you indication you are arguing. That might indicate that both PK “sucks” and PK goaltending is below average.
it’s not absolutes i’m concerned with. it’s relative….
i’m gonna crunch some numbers.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
I’m going to do a full writeup on this later but:
Average Team PK% for 10 goalies with biggest drop in SV% from EV to PK: 78.65 (average drop: -.095)
Average Team PK% for 10 goalies with smallest drop in SV% from EV to PK: 83.2 (average drop: -.014)
In other words: SV% for goalies with a bad PK will drop 6X greater than for goalies on a team with a good PK, independent of their starting EV SV% (Both Reimer and Gus were in the bottom 10 last season).
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Gabe Desjardin’s conclusion is that goalie PK performance isn’t repeatable. It’s luck, essentially.
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Hey Chemmy
You ( @FelixPotvin ) got a shoutout in Rob Longley’s column today in the… gasp… Toronto Sun.
He quoted your tweet about how Gustavsson now has the same amount of points as Matt Stajan ( lulz )
Just thought you might llike to know
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Now he can die happy. By that I mean I don’t want anything bad to happen to Chemmy it was just sarcasm because the Toronto Sun sucks something profane :) Link me!
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Longley’s a good guy. We talk on twitter a lot.
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Reading it now. He calls you a twitter pal, cool. I guess it’s not ok to generalize based on a paper’s name. Who knew.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/02/thanks-peter-for-playing-brodeur
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I would like to point out that we honoured Cujo last night
By making Brodeur tied with him for most losingest goalie.
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Best part of that clip is Kessel’s reaction.
Living and dying with the Blue and White, season to season, game to game, shift to shift.
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
“Ah whatever. Would have been nice, but we’re kicking their asses”
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Silly me, I forgot, I am still half-human
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we’re playing in columbus tomorrow, it’ll be my turn for another hat trick
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
I’ll just cross check the puck into the net.
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The Standings...
I just keep looking at them to make sure it’s really real. LOL Boston!
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
It depresses me when I realize that Edmonton is doing so well and I am pretty damn confident that they’ll fall back to earth. What does that say about us?
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At least we’re not getting .960 goaltending?
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think (read: hope) our goaltending will improve as soon as Reimer is back in the line up. As for our PK, I’ll believe it when I see it.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
We are doing it with sub ..900 S% and they are riding the Bulin wall and his .960%
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much, if the Leafs goaltending normalizes (with a healthy reimer or whatever) the Leafs actually get better, if the Oilers goaltending normalizes they are fucked unless they can score another goal and a half a game
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The best GA/G is 2.18 by Detroit a few years ago. Edmonton is at like 1.3
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that pretty much defines unsustainable
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure. I just fear that us having the 3rd highest GF (3.33/GP) is nearly as unsustainable.
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i wouldn’t. the Leafs have a fair bit of fire power and as long as they stay healthy they should be able to continue to put up above average offense
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
we also aren’t stuck plugging 3rd and 4th liners in to top line rolls. if one of the top 6, we’ve got guys like Colborne and Kadri who can step in.
i was so surprised to hear TSN waxing poetic about the Leafs ‘depth’ last night.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well we do have much, much more depth than last year.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed, which is why the Leafs should probably worry more about bringing in a youngish stud defender like Suter over an impact forward right now
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
You won't find a bigger Parise fanboy than me and I concur with this.
Suter would be huge right now. Suter-Phaneuf pairing? Holy shit.
Then you could bump down Gunnar to play with Schenn, Gardiner-Komisarek on the 3rd pairing…. Liles gone via pick or walk UFA
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
you guys may very well be right.
FYI, Suter and Kessel are both from Madison. I think Kessel might have played with Suter at some point as a kid.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed, but saying that I would take a kessel level talent if one became available for the right price
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but a stud defender would take this team to the next level. The forwards are reasonably good already, and if they knew they had Dion+Stud ready to stand up behind them…. wow.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be very satisfied if they went out and got a reliable 3-4 guy to play with Liles on the 2nd pairing
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs were running Joey Crabb and Tyler Bozak as Kessel’s wingmen for a good chunk of the year last year.
Ya i’d say there’s some depth.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if you’re asking me whether I think will still have the second best record in the league come April? Then I’d say probably not. But come on, we’re riding a wave here! no back to back losses yet! Do I need to say it!!!!1
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
That guy is totally an invisible player. I see Brown out there hustlin’, hitting people, generally being an awesome 4th liner. Dupuis I barely see out there.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been surprisingly happy with Dupuis. It seems to me he’s been very effective on the forecheck, keeping the other team deep in their own zone.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Nov 3, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Banking points for our inevitible fall back to earth offensively?
We’re 3rd in the league in goalscoring right now
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone has to be 3rd, why not us?
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
even if the Leafs “fall back to earth” i still think they are a top 10 team offensively
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s possible. I don’t know what Connolly will do this year, but MGK has been “okay” some games but hasn’t really turned it on.
Except Grabbo.
I’m feeling extremely confident in my Grabbo > Kulemin prediction right now
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m grumbling about it. You better enjoy that damn beer.
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Fortunately for me
My Lupul scoring more goals than either Grabs or Kule is going well.
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I have the feeling Kulemin will pick it up. He seems snakebitten right now.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Kulemin will pick it up, but he wont pot 30 again
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
i still think he picks it up and goes hot for a few long stretches getting midish 20s
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My favourite part of last nights quiz? Ward's self deprecation
Ward: Play with more passion. He has to play more on the edge. On the rare occasion the coach made a mistake and actually put me out on the ice against [Ovechkin], he’s the type of guy that makes you question what he’s going to do. He’s either going to go through you or around you so he keeps you questioning at all times. He possesses that skill set where he uses his physicality his body positioning and all those things. But it’s really how he reacts, he has a passion for the game, his excitement is infectious in that locker room.
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I loved being able to legally watch the TSN feed on their site. I hope they do that every game…it was amazing!
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i liked that too. i love self-deprecation.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too
It may be my favourite type of humour.
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Hello?
FART jokes?
Jesus.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I also enjoy that type of humour, but I’m an idiot.
by theninjagreg on Nov 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Idiot, you say?
Here, pull my finger….
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
OMFG
Phil Kessel’s favorite NHL hockey team:
If I was forced to pick, I’d take the Atlanta Thrashers.
link.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe he was being a hipster.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What a shock. An awkward answer.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 3, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone come across any highlight videos of Kessel playing for the Gophers or USA WJs? Doesn’t look like there’s much of anything on youtube and I’m curious to see how he played/how dominant he was back then.
LOL
FYI: Madisonians fucking hate Kessel.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he turned down playing at UW to go to Minnesota.
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Jealousy
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Kessel snipe off the rush, gives the home team fans the Hulk Hogan “I can’t hear you”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYMTMqei5AY
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take that you stinkin’ badgers!
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
greatest.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6TBrfCW54
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
From Longley's article:
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/02/thanks-peter-for-playing-brodeur
Another likely factor in the Frattin demotion: The AHL team is about to head out on lengthy road trip through the U.S. Southwest. Leafs management believe such journey are great motivational tools for young players anxious to return to the first-class travel of the NHL
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Hopefully Kadri feels motivated too.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember in the pre-season when people were going on about how shitty Lupul was, that he should be buried in the minors, that he was a throw-in in the Gardiner deal, etc etc?
Yeah that was pretty funny.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
Yes, he’s exceeded expectations so far.
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People said he should be buried in the minors?
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember people pegging him to be this year’s Goat, but that’s about it.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I may have misinterpreted it when someone said ‘Fire Lupul into the sun’
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
So you think the AHL is the center of the sun? That’s harsh.
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Haha I don’t remember that. Although to be sure, that’s been said about many players around here.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Including Ryan Miller in this very thread.
But I wholeheartedly support that position.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 3, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Stupid people. Anything stupid said or done by stupid people shouldn’t surprise you.
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I find this statement surprising….
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You think we’d have learned by now that pre-season != regular season.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I became a Lupul booster at the time just because I was defending him so much.
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I became a Lupul booster the very second he started scoring out of his mind, and not before.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
There were definitely people who were down on him prior to the season. And I don’t think there’s any debating the fact that he is exceeding expectations at the moment.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 3, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I didn't see those comments then
Personally I felt hopeful after he came on strong toward last season’s end and that with a summer to train and condition himself he might be a surprise. Nice to him fulfilling those expectations.
I do remember others expressing the same sentiment. Must be selective memory.
by Jack rides ducks on Nov 3, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey remember when people talk about Burke trades and say things like “Phaneuf isn’t overpaid and not very good”, “Lombardi is a salary dump and won’t play” and “Lupul is too inconsistent”… no real point, just feeling smug. We should all rather feel smug right now.
/whoknowsifitwilllast
I work with Sens/Habs fans. I take every opportunityt to smugly plug how good we are playing this year.
by Goosemonster on Nov 3, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I’ve ever felt smug before.
Is that the one where you bury your face in yours hands, clench your knees together, pee yourself a little bit, and say “help?”
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to admit, he has suprised the shit out of me.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You've got LeafsHQ
But not MarliesHQ.
http://marlieshq.com/2011/11/02/joe-colborne-named-ahl-player-of-the-month/
Marlies/Stars game preview coming in a little while as well.
BTW Love how Dion immediately skated to the net after Lupul’s 3rd last night to retrieve the puck (even before he celebrated). He may yet make a great captain! :P
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#FreeScrivens
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding, it’s a weak opponent on the road, coming off a back to back. I have to wonder if Wilson is afraid of Scrivens playing lights out, and the collective shitstorm that would be.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That’d be Ron “I Fear Shut-Outs” Wilson you’re referencing?
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to wonder if Wilson is afraid of Scrivens playing lights out, and the collective shitstorm that would be.
Oh man, you may be on to somethng. I know as a fan, Im afraid of a goalie playing well and being another option and winning games.
I hate winning games.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Nov 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As a fan, you don’t have to deal with the media and a goaltending controversy.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I really can’t tell if you are serious. Do you really think he is concerned that a player will play so well that it could make it difficult who to choose to play in the future?
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I just don’t know how else to justify giving Gus a start tonight.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
because scrivins isnt ready and they want to bleed points out of a shitty team?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Scrivens at 26 or however old he is, isn’t ready to face the bottom dwelling CBJ, in Columbus, while the goalie that is playing is a career sub 900?
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
scrivens has been bad this year has never played an NHL game and gustavsson has been playing decently while they are playing an offensively challenged team?
when every point counts, especially against bottom feeders you go with the hot hand and dont bet on the kid who has never been to the show before
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think “has been bad” is a bit harsh for 5 games of work on Scrivens.
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well, he has, his numbers are sub par, especially compared to his larger body of work
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
4-1-0 2.41gaa .908
and he looked good in the preseason.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
before he got a shut out (on a very easy night) he had an 880 something
wins are a horrible way to judge a goalie, if you have 4 wins with a 908 and one of those was a shut out? you are not doing very good statistically
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough, but if you have a .886 with no shutouts, you’re not doing very well either.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL body of work > AHL body of work
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
At one point
Every goalie in the league had never played an NHL game. And yet they all have now. I suggest that it’s because sooner or later a team decided to go with the guy who had never played an NHL game, even when he wasn’t their only option that night.
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by Back In Black on Nov 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats really your best guess? If that were the case, Wilson should be fired.
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Wilson obviously think Gustavsson is the better goalie right now.
I’d rather have a fresh one.
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I agree, but lindros’ jaw argument was a little silly.
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it was a throw away comment, not a thesis. I get kinda defensive when people start being sarcastic dicks.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
people start being sarcastic dicks
This may as well be the tagline for the site.
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no shit.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really thing the team gives a fuck about it if it wins games?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Well, the first line doesn’t care. They’re too busy having a goal scoring contest…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Nov 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT'S THAT? YOU WANT TO GET PINCHED TOO?
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
the middle v is because crabs are angry
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crabs man, fuckin crabs
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
/inserts Futurama clamps picture here if I had any
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
by Ghostsof on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rinne 7 years, 49 million
mother of god
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
WE WANT ONE OF THESE GUYS:
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes
But remember what’s been said about defensive defensemen….
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
suter is a defensive defenseman since when?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That you don't give them big money
Fortunately Suter is 64th in goals over the last 4 years, 18th in points, and 9th in TOI (note its total time on ice so its helpful that he doesn’t get injured).
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gimme gimme gimme gimme
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Seconded.
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I think Suter stays for less. Weber goes and turns into younger players that are immediate offensive help and have less hefty paychecks.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Nov 3, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
says who? the MSM? Just cause Lidstrom might retire doesnt mean they are getting Suter or Weber. I actually really hope that the red wings start to fall apart, dispel this myth that Holland is a hockey genius. They got lucky with Datsyuk and Zetterberg and Lidstrom has held that blueline together forever. They arent that great after those 3
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Rafalski was pretty sweet.
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sure, no doubt. Add him to the list
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
But he was a UFA. Does Holland really get to take credit for signing a guy?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
yea, we are talking about potentially signing Weber as a UFA, so it counts in this convo
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my bad. I thought we referring to the “Hooland is a genius” line the MSM is feeding because of his “Drafting prowess” Carry on
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Hooland is such a hooligan.
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Kronwall? Howard? Holmstrom wasn’t bad for a billionth round pick
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if they re-sign Lidstrom for another year for $7m, they will still be left with $17m in cap space. After they re-sign their UFAs and RFAs they’ll still have enough to put in a bigtime offer.
But everyone wants to play in Toronto, not Detroit!
….right guys? RIGHT?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And I wouldn’t be shocked if they might bump up Lidstrom’s contract to say $7.5 or $8m for one more year just to be able to raise their offer on Weber and sign him long term, since they won’t pay anyone more than Nik.
They broke that rule with his pay cut this year
Datsyuk now makes more.
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Also of note
Ryan Suter is an American Olympian. He’s as good as ours.
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Burke GM of said team, Wilson the coach.
I like where this is headed
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
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1a. Truculence
1b. Testosterone
2. AMURRICANS!!
3. Belligerence
4. Long cut Skoal
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by Isosceles Kramer on Nov 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOOOO
via LeBrun
FYI mentioned this earlier this week but Suter’s agent Neil Sheehy expected to resume talks with Preds around Nov. 14-15
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talks consist of
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Can somebody make sure that Neil Sheehy doesn’t make it to that meeting?
Don’t tell me the details of the operation, but just get it done.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that give him the highest cap hit for a goaltender?
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Answering own question
Lundy was the highest at 6.875. Rinne is now the highest!
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Pekka Rinne’s new contract with the Preds is seven years at $7-million cap hit. Makes him one of highest paid goalies in league.
with weber AND suter to sign this summer that is madness
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
MADNESS?
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bye Suter
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by birky on Nov 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Poile knows something we don’t. Namely, that Weber and/or Suter aren’t coming back, so might as well lock up your goalie long-term to have someone to bail out your depreciated defense.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
weber is RFA, Suter is UFA
LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville could be well and truly fucked on RFAs this year.
Wilson, Geoffrion, Weber, Blum and Lindback; all RFAs.
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and Lindback
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Nickelback
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So Lindback is on the move?
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not for a bit, he still needs to get some value under his belt
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lindback for Gustavsson
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
MSM blames Leaf fans for lack of faith, chasing him off.
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To be fair, in Nashville’s system, a beer league goalie could probably post a .920.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And he did!
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/ellisda01.html
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So were you upset we traded up for Schenn, than Wilson got picked in our original spot?
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If they somehow manage to lock up both long-term i will be impressed.
Until that very moment, I am salivating at the thought of Suter-Phaneuf.
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke would be an idiot to not start building a trade proposal for Suter, like, now.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I mixed up Weber/Suter and RFA/UFA. I’m half asleep; sue me.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Suter-Gardiner/Schenn you mean
You have Phaneuf or Suter on the ice for 50 minutes a night. Welp. Thanks for playing.
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I do not.
Suter-Phaneuf. DONT TELL ME HOW TO SALIVATE
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Suter/Phaneuf/Gunnarsson/Gardiner……..yeah, I need a new pair of pants now.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Phaneuf – Gunnarsson
Suter – Schenn
Gardiner – Liles
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A Gardiner/Blacker D-pairing would be hilarious.
The entire shift would just consist of them skating around with the puck and never getting hit.
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or getting dominated in their own zone
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Dink. You had a perfect set-up for …
Aulie Aulie Oxen Free…
and you blew it.
Go home.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was more on the duck, duck, goose train there
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
38 minutes late
so no fuckin’ rec for you.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok........
Apology rec given.
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta figure Gunnarsson gets sacrificed in any deal with Nashville.
If Burke wants either of these guys, go get them as soon as you fucking can. I don’t trust Detroit to do some retarded back-loaded deal to give Suter $3 billion over 28 years so the cap hit ends up being like $8.
…I may have exaggerated a bit there.
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Give them Franson back!!!
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/worthtrying
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign Lebda again and give them Lebda again?
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wowza
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by nhlcheapshot on Nov 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I ran the math on defenseman TOI/GP over the last 4 years and Suter ranks 20th at 23:30. Although he is not a defensive Dman (as proven by him being 18th in points by a dman over the last 4 years) this makes me realize that Komi’s lack of TOI should have been a huge negative sign before we signed him. He had only cracked 20 twice and his highest was 21:09. Its bad enough giving big money to someone who can’t provide offense, but you definitely don’t give it to someone who can’t provide offense OR eat minutes.
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Komisarek to the long term IR.
Suter to our blueline.
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But Burke, I can’t go on LTIR. I’m not injured.
What about that gunshot would to your leg?
But I don’t have a gunshot would on my….
BAM!
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Komi I’m inviting you over dinner.
Thanks Burkie
Burkie this fish is delcious, but why aren’t you eating any?
No reason.
Headline: Komisarek has tetrodotoxin poisoning. Retires
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by BCapp on Nov 3, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/pythoned
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Komisarek out for year with “Sucks”
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
Komisarek out for year with "Not Ryan Suter"
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Komisarek out for year with ‘Who gives a fuck?’
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
Komisarek out – never really in
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by not norm ullman on Nov 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Kadri, Franson, Lombardi.
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Thank you for getting this.
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robert slaney would be sad, but even he forgot about himself
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke would throw mountains of cash at suter to get him to stay
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
No I mean he doesn’t seem likely to stay in Nashville. They can’t afford Weber/Suter/Rinne on their budget.
you also have to think about the fact that the leafs wont be the only team bidding so the package has to reflect that
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless they are actually opening up the purse strings finally
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
You’re paying to jump the line. If Suter gets to UFA it’ll be the Kovalchuk/Richards sweepstakes all over again. Teams will throw out all kinds of ridiculous shit to get him signed.
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Compare to what Kovi and Hossa cost… They were the last players in that situation.
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Hossa
2008-Feb-26 Traded from Atlanta Thrashers with Pascal Dupuis to Pittsburgh Penguins for Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, Angelo Esposito and round 1 pick in the 2008 draft (Daultan Leveille)
I would say throw out Dupuis and Christensen since they were both effectively 4th line grinders at this point.
So Hossa for Armstrong (a roster player to replace Hossa), Esposito (one of the Pens’ best prospects) and a 1st.
Kovalchuk
2010-Feb-04 Traded from Atlanta Thrashers with Anssi Salmela and round 2 pick in the 2010 draft (Jon Merrill) to New Jersey Devils for Nicklas Bergfors, Patrice Cormier, Johnny Oduya, round 1 pick in the 2010 draft (Kevin Hayes) and round 2 pick in the 2010 draft (Justin Holl)
Tougher because of all the extra bodies involved. Basically throw out the 2nd round picks and it becomes Kovalchuk and a young D for 2 prospects, a top 4 D-man (because ATL needed one and for salary purposes) and a 1st.
So basically; Gunnarsson (a roster player to replace Suter), Kadri (one of our top prospects) and another prospect and a first.
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Esposito was considered to be a project at the time of the trade, i believe because of injuries.
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
Our first is different than NJ’s or PIT’s. Those are teams expecting to trade the 25th or later pick.
It’d be probably two 2nds from us.
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With a first? No deal. We’d be moving the 15th pick to pay full UFA price for a guy.
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Only way I do it is if the Leafs are top four in the East and we do it at the deadline.
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Or if we’re allowed to negotiate before the trade.
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I just have a sinking feeling that if we ever went all-in on a player that it would end up being a disaster
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 3, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Either a disaster or a league leading goal scorer and the NHL’s number one player for the month of october.
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Gunnarsson is playing a larger role on this Leafs team than any of those players aside from maybe Armstrong. And a guy capable of playing on the top unit is more valuable than a second/third line winger. I know you need to give to get. I’d be okay moving Kadri though.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 3, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What's kinda funny about this
is I think a lot of NJ fans were hoping Rinne would hit UFA and become Brodeur’s replacement.
Now they are forced to draft or trade for a goalie if they ever want to have a #1 goalie again.
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Their best bet would be to make a deal with Vancouver for Scheneider. Lack looks good, and Luongo isn’t going anywhere with that albatross of a contract.
And no, not for Parise. People are stupid.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it could be for Parise, especially if Hodgeson is deemed expendable, the Devils need centers too
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Sedins, Kesler, Booth, Parise and Burrows as VAN’s top 6.
Game. Fucking. Over.
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At least Parise would likely walk in the summer.
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AV would have to be pretty confident they win the cup, and with that line up how could he not?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No arguments here.
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two 100 point players on the 1st line, two 40 goal scorers on the second, luongo in net?
it doesnt matter who the fuck you have on defense
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that their D is particularly bad.
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
nope, they have a pretty solid, if unspectacular D, good enough to win with Parise thrown in there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I am of the personal belief that Edler is much better than most people realize. Its nice that he is something like PPG now so some people are coming to agree.
For the last couple of years he has provided slightly less offense (I think they were basically tied last year) than Ehrhoff while being very good defensively.
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He was on pace for the same points as Ehrhoff before he went down.
But when he came back he didn’t look the same. He’s looking better again (mostly) this year, but still has the odd what-the-fuck game
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yup, makes all the sense in the world from a vancouver perspective really
but do the Devils take the chance? who knows, they still try to sign Parise no mater the cost, but if he wants to test free agency and they are out of the playoffs Lou will fish him for the best package
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was impressed with Henrique last night. He’s going to be good.
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wait, you mean waiting for a player to hit UFA is not a good team building strategy?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ville Leino has 2 points, and is pacing for 20ish this season. He is signed for 6 more years at 4.5million.
Discuss.
Leino, Cole, horrible signings.
Leafs July UFA overpayment happens to have the same or more points than both and has played 4 games.
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Its not necessarily an overpayment
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All 48 expected games!
For what it’s worth I still hate Connolly.
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I don’t expect him to remain off the IR for much longer.
I’ve never argued that he’s not talented when he’s playing.
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Well there is also the 2 year contract thing… better than giving a guy (cough Leino and Erhoff Cough) a 6-10 year contract
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Chemmy on Nov 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
this is my new favourite thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 3, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Doggy
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't know if this was posted but
Will Arnett on his new show, I believe Gilmour is on the back.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
Ya cuz the guy on the tv show is gonna cheer for someone other than the Leafs, COME ON
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’m embarrassed to be SEEN watching the Leafs, I like watching them.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What’s his face is a big Leafs fan. He used to tweet a lot about them.
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Will Arnett
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Anyone remember this month-by-month breakdown of the Leafs schduel at Puckin' eh?
October:
Notes: The Leafs schedule starts off the way it always seems to with Montreal and Ottawa in Toronto for the first couple of games. Calgary, Colorado, and the first game against Winnipeg add to ease of the first homestand. The Leafs then spend 7 of the next 8 on the road and will face the Flyers and Rangers who gave them the most trouble last season, 3 divisional opponents, and a Pittsburgh team that should include a healthy Malkin and Crosby. The Leafs will be lucky to escape with five wins.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Nice try come again.
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You are denying that Kessel putting up a goal per game, Lupul nearly the same, and Gustavsson playing well above his norm to be luck?
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I deny that Gustavsson has been good enough to be playing well above his norm (also: I’m not sure that’s been established). Unless his norm is Vesa Toskala.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Nov 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This just makes us look good for when the Leafs fall flat in another month.
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Yup, which is mostly what I’m viewing this fast start as – a nice cushion, gently carrying us to PLAYOFFS!!!!1
And in Puckin’ Eh’s defense, that Pittsburgh team was fucking decimated by injuries.
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What’s new? They still managed to get pretty far into the playoffs without their two stars. Evidently they have a good team without Malkin and Crosby, somehow.
It boggles the mind
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Underrated D and good coaching. Plus reliable goaltending.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Nov 3, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the Leafs were very lucky last month and we’re all happy.
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Closing up shop
move on over to the preview thread:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/3/2535336/when-it-matters-when-it-matters-when-it-matters
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/11/3/2535336/when-it-matters-when-it-matters-when-it-matters
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