Tim Connolly Always Triumphs!
by JP Nikota on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 AM EST
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"It's just a flesh wound", they say. Just another one of those "upper body injuries". Tim Connolly is going to miss between 10 days and two weeks with an undisclosed injury. Of course, the way the Leafs' front office has been diagnosing injuries lately (James Reimer may have been completely decapitated for all we know) it could be even longer. At least James Mirtle can report that it has nothing to do with Connolly's recently injured shoulder:
"It's totally unrelated to the earlier injury," Wilson said. "He got hurt in the game the other night [against Boston]. I said it's upper body; I'm not going to get into specifics. He got hurt on the first penalty kill; he left the ice for a bit and then he felt okay.
Naturally, the possibility exists that Wilson is lying about that aspect of the injury as well. Who knows?
The bright side to all this? Matt Frattin has already been recalled, and will get another chance to finally score his first NHL goal. I guess that might only be a bright side if your name is Matt Frattin.
Anyway, Mirtle's article has the (probable) starting lineup for tonight, as well as a number of other notes and thoughts from Wilson in the audio section, so check it out.
Follow me over the jump for plenty of other great links that will help you get through the day. If yesterday's meager list was the purging, today is the gorging. Enjoy, fatsos.
Leafs Links:
Tim Connolly's Injury Woes Continue
Good gravy, the photoshops alone are fantastic. I think they trump mine. From Dirty Dangle.
Winning Games At Even-Strength
Another article from Jonathan Willis at The Leafs Nation warning Leafs fans to batten the hatches and prepare for the storm that will be Hurricane Regression.
Luke Schenn— the most relieved guy in Leafland
Michael Langlois at VLM thinks Luke Schenn must be somewhat glad to see Franson do poorly.
Rating the ACC
It's mostly for the link within the post, but what do you think of the ACC? The only time I've ever been there, I had standing room right over center ice, and the view was fantastic. The Leafs came from behind to beat Bryan McCabe and the Panthers 3-2 to boot.
Colborne developing nicely with Marlies
This is just a nice fluff article by Samantha Wood at NHL.com, but I'll take all the good news I can get.
Historicist: Arch Enemy of the NHL
A history lesson at Torontoist by Kevin Plummer.
Random celebrity encounters – Johnny Bower edition
The 1967ers should have at least said 'hi'.
Joe Colborne and Jake Gardiner: Forcing Management's Hand
Curt S at Blue Chip Prospects wonders if the play of these two will force Leafs' management to make a trade. Personally, I'm not holding my breath just yet.
Other Hockey Links:
NHLNumbers Podcast: Episode I
Kent Wilson and Jonathan Willis have guest James Mirtle in to talk about advanced stats, among other things, for the inaugural edition of the NHL Numbers podcast.
Faceoff Leaders By Starting Zone
Matchups are key in the NHL - how do teams deploy their forwards by zone? From Derek Zona at The Copper & Blue.
Falcons Sign Lebda to PTO
Link from The Cannon to the site of the Springfield Falcons. Commence laughter... now.
Daniel Paille takes slapper to face in gruesome scene
Myself, I always wore a full cage. But then, I was never that cool, anyway. From Sean Leahy at PD.
Hitchcock had ‘zero discussion’ about Columbus coaching return
In his podcast, Justin Bourne speculated that the Blues moved quickly to hire Ken Hitchcock because of concerns the Blue Jackets would hire him first. Hm. From Greg Wyshynski at PD.
Crosby says it's possible he could return to lineup Friday
Somebody's fantasy team could get a hell of a boost very soon. From Alan Robinson at the Globe via the CP.
Georges Laraque vs. Darren Pang Twitter fight over Gretzky legacy
If you didn't see this on Twitter, Greg Wyshynski at PD has a transcript.
Backhand Shelf Podcast, Featuring Jeremy Roenick
Justin Bourne and his buddy Pizzo have a number of interesting points, though of course, Roenick is the star of the show. From Backhand Shelf.
Roenick: "There are NO Steroids Whatsoever" in the NHL, Wayne Gretzky Wasn’t a Good Coach
If you don't have time, or aren't able to listen to the above-linked podcast because your work is stupid, here are a couple of the highlights from it.
The Columbus Blue Jackets; their start, and their decade of misery
Over at Backhand Shelf, Cam Charron explains that the BJ's (BCWW) have had some tough luck to start the season.
The Dave Tippett Effect: Mike Smith in Phoenix
Feelin' pretty smug about snapping this guy up for my fantasy team when all the other goalies were gone. From Justin Bourne at Backhand Shelf.
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Massive rec for Monty Python reference!
Big game tonight. Gotta show up and have a solid 60 minute effort. And a regulation win.
What a’ya gonna do? bleed on me?!
/TimConnollyconsidersoptions
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 8, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Really hope to keep the “no losing streak” this season going for at least a few more games. Good chance tonight. Also, Florida has lost 3 straight in OT? Talk about snake bit.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Not likely. I mean, we are facing Versteeg and probably Clemmensen.
by lucc on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hat trick and a shutout.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Kessel owns Florida, we are going to smoke these guys.
Fuck Kris Versteeg
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
I was at that game. I remember that even though we won, it was pretty painful at times.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
When I saw the number 23 on the ice, I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
But seriously, just watching lebda and komi flailing about during that sequence is enough to make my blood. And then Kessel makes it all better with a piece of magic out of nowhere.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Nov 8, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Is that Mike Weaver that Kessel blows by?
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like Wideman. How dare you try and drag Mike Weaver through the mud!
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
my bad…Weaver wears #43 :(
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
He was probably on the bench, shaking his head at all the horrible defence he was witnessing during that sequence.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Versteeg is gonna score tonight. Might as well just get it outta the way early.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
he didn’t want someone else criticizing him of being a jerk.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Was watching the BOS-NYI game last night
Is it wrong that I:
1. Am jealous of the Isles puck movement on the PP? Their passes are so crisp and they cycle so well. Never really paid much notice to him but Streit has some good hands, especially for a dman.
2. Want to steal Tavares and force him to play the rest of his career for the Leafs?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 8, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions
Streit is definitely underappreciated.
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Paille getting that puck in the face
Was a bit scary though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I didn’t see it, but I hear Milbury went on a rant about how visors are stupid afterward.
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He did
Almost right away started talking about how they were stupid for fighting. After a guy probably just got saved from re-constructive surgery by wearing one
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
2 guys. Doughty was saved as well. Parros didn’t wear one and now he’s had retina surgery.
Milbury is as bad at TV as he is as a GM.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
side note: Did that count as a blocked shot for Paille?
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
I don’t see why it wouldn’t, the stat doesn’t keep track of shots blocked off of parts of your body that you ideally don’t want to block shots with
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
McGuire or whomever starts saying that incidents like this are why there’s such a push for mandatory visors that might be grandfathered in like helmets. Milbury then says well blah blah blah blah that’d be the beginning of the end of fighting or some shit.
Mike Milbury would rather see two guys punch each other in the face than have someone not lose an eye.
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I once saw this cool two-stage helmet
Where the first stage has a visor and is a full helmet and you pop that off in a fight and then the second stage stays on and mostly just covers the top and back of your head (I think the idea was to be to protect you if/when you fall so you don’t get concussed when you hit the ice). No idea if its practical but it was a cool idea…
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It was hilarious when right after the crew were praising Chara for being such a force in the league, one of the guys called out Milbury for being the guy who traded Chara away from the Isles. Milbury just went silent (it was that awesome/awkward silence) for a few moments after which he defended the trade by saying that Chara was asking for “too much too soon” and that “they got Yashin in return” lol Yashin.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 8, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
How amazing would the Islanders be if they still had Chara, Spezza, and Luongo?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
for one thing, they wouldn’t have the dipietro/yashin contracts
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
If you keep on with this line of thought, very quickly someone will end up as their own grandpa.
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
“Due to you perfoming certain acts with your own grandmother…..
“Yup, I did do the nasty in the past-y”
“Verily…”"
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
by Ghostsof on Nov 8, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish I wish I hadn't killed that fish.
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by JP Nikota on Nov 8, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It wins
Most awesome pic yet. Classic Simpons FTW.
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hey, so BCapp, guess who has an interview for a job in Ontario?
This guy.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
another sconnie coming to ontario!
did burke hire you?
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
lol.
i’m sworn to secrecy.
actually, i’m not sure i qualify as a sconnie yet. need more time here me thinks.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
You’re the leafs new neurologist. It’s okay I won’t tell anyone.
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
you’d better hope not, or Reimer’s in trouble.
then again, it would explain the lack of a clear diagnosis.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Congrats man! We can (hopefully) finally grab that beer!
GOOD LUCK!
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yeah! thanks. i don’t want to jinx it. i still have to get the job. but even still i’m pretty stoked. some jobs i applied to had like 180+ applicants. they tend to only interview 4 or 5.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
The other thing is that if they didn’t draft DiPietro then you can add either Heatly or Gaborik to the team as well
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
spezza and heatly in their primes on the island instead of ottawa eh?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
It’s also worth mentioning the tense edition of Hotstove Saturday night when Milbury got quite angry at Eric Francis for insulting him, and then hit him hard across the chest with the piece of equipment they were talking about. It was a good look at the Mike Milbury who once beat a man with his own shoe.
That may have been his greatest moment in hockey
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
In all fairness to Milbury, Eric Francis usually deserves a smack
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Not as much as Milbury deserves one. or a dozen.
by Goosemonster on Nov 8, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just funny that the producers continue to seat Milbury and Francis next to each other, despite their palpable (and in each case, justified) mutual loathing. It’s like they’re hoping for bloodshed.
It’s the Jerry Springer effect:
Here’s a knife, do something with it
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 8, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oddly enough, that may have been the only time I can think of where he actually didn’t deserve it.
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The shot they showed of his helmet and shield afterward was pretty gnarly. Looked like the guy wearing it took a bullet in the head.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I heard a podcast recently where they interviewed doctor that treats alot of hockey players and he said that the shot blocking injuries he sees are very similar to gunshot wounds.
except for the burrowing inside of people while mushrooming and spiralling through the body creating a horrific wound path, yes, very similar
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
its a silly comparison, the two are nothing alike except the fact that it is a high speed projectile, one is blunt force trauma the other is not
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf has taken a puck off the visor this year already
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
grabbo scored off his visor last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Unorthodox, but whatever works
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Re: Colborne
It’s too bad we won’t find out why he wasn’t called up, and Frattin was, particularly since the opening was at centre.
When Burke called down to Eakins, did he say somethign to the effect that Colborne isn’t NHL ready?
All I know is that with Connolly missing, we’re back to last year’s offence – Bozak between Kessel and Lupul, MGK, and then very little scoring talent on the bottom two lines. Personally I’d like to see Crabb get kicked to the curb and Colborne on the third line.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 9:09 AM EST reply actions
it is simple
Frattin is MORE nhl ready, and they want Colborne to continue to dominate down there, probably to help Kadri find his game
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
and with Frattin + Bozak or Frattin + Lombardi on the 3rd line they have a decent scoring ability
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
I think what happens is either Bozak or Lombardi moves up, and then its Frattin – Bozak/Lombardi – Crabb
Likely Lombardi is a better fit between Kessel and Lupul because his speed, but while Bozak has been up there this year he has been good, so he’ll get the chance
Bozak’s had chances but he’s not finishing yet. I think part of it is that his defensive centre/face-off role has been largely supplanted by Steckel. Hopefully he picks it up now with more playing time.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
and half of those games were on the first line.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yep along with 4 of those points – he had a few games in the pre-season where he was everywhere but these last few games he’s been invisible.
at 1.8M i don’t expect him to do much more then last year.
his rookie year point production was decent though
Remember his first goal where he just undressed the defender and popped it high shelf? Why can’t he ever do anything remotely like that again?
by Goosemonster on Nov 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Because he wants to pass it to Kessel
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin-Lombardi-Crabb.
Bozak to the top line
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
what ever it is, they will start with one and then end up with the other
it is the Ron Wilson way
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
’tis
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
maybe I should clarify
I’d like to see the maximum number of talented scorers on the top 9 because I believe that’s the best way for the Leafs to win right now.
Let’s face it, the goaltending is iffy, and the PK is atrocious. We should just accept that the only way the Leafs win is to score more goals than the other guy.
So with a crap PK, and with Gus as the starter, we need 4 goals a night to compete. Sure, even a great offense may not have saved us in the Boston game, but in the Ottawa game, just one more goal would have saved a point.
Assuming Frattin’s gotten the monkey off his back and can score at the NHL level, I would prefer Lombardi-Colborne-Frattin. The more talent in the top 9, the greater a chance of Wilson finding chemistry in his line blender experiments.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
you also have to look at it from a developmental standpoint. The Leafs brass is aware that they are most likely not contenders and that rushing a prospect just to maybe win a game or two when they dont really have to is not a good thing in the long run,
They also realize that offence is not the problem and that defence and systems are and are probably focusing on that, and bringing in players who suit that better.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Kind of don’t care about these Colborne rants anymore.
We get it, you think Joe Colborne is good. So do we.
We’re just trying out this crazy notion of not immediately wanting every prospect rushed to the NHL as soon as they put some points on the board in a different league.
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
I can’t stand how little patience there is around here and in Leafs fans in general. Development outside of the NHL isn’t just 10 or 20 games. It can include entire seasons (note that is plural).
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Sometimes a player only needs 10 or 20 games. Sometimes they play a whole season+ like Spezza did. And sometimes they never play in the AHL at all. Not saying that’s the case here, because I don’t really know anything about player development, but I think it really depends on the player. If they’re ready, they’re ready.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
For sure but Leafs fans get way to excited on prospects way to quickly.
Also I think Spezza played longer in the A because of the lockout, not that he needed the time…
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For sure butLeafsfans get way too excited on prospects way to quickly.
Period. Its the new hotness…OMFG!
"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
Everyone jizzes over detroit for not rushing their prospects, but Buffalo basically has a policy that their players have to stay in the AHL for at least a year. The only recent player they haven’t done that for is Stafford, and that’s cuz he was really good during their presidents trophy.
Roy, Pomminville, Vanek, Ennis, Adam,
they’re all putting up huge points now and that’s after developing (together) down there
jizzes
Just a plain gross word.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Rhymes with “punt”
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, I’m done.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
The penguins as well, all those guys they brought up last year like lovejoy and letestu spent years in the AHL.
As far as I can tell all the best teams leave their prospects in the AHL untill they’re clearly ready.
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Its largely a result of them having better teams and then not needing to fill those spots with what they can hope can be a productive young player with potential
that’s why someone like Schenn got stuck up out of the draft, rather than going back to junior and becoming more offensive.
Now that we have a stronger team though, we shouldn’t be makign the same mistakes
And stupid management and pressure from impatient fans
Schenn should not have stayed. There was simply no reason.
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This is true regardless of the quality of defense...it is a goal scoring competition afterall
We should just accept that the only way the Leafs win is to score more goals than the other guy.
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alright, I guess what I’m trying to say is – we’re not going to win by minimizing our goals against.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to have to disagree
No team can score 4 goals a game and I really doubt we can keep up the scoring we have going (even with more talented forwards in the bottom 6 there are still only so many minutes per game). We NEED to cut our GA/60.
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We are a team with 5x 20+ goal scorers in our top six not to mention Lombardi and Army(doubt he’ll ever get 20 again). But your right, it isn’t going to happen consistently enough to rely on it like TB.
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I’d say It’s highly unlikely that Armstrong hits 20. Probably unlikely that Lombardi hits 20 again as well in his current role.
It’s rather nice we don’t have to rely on him stepping back up to that level. He’s a good 3rd liner.
Looks like he is getting his legs under him as well, if he can get back up to where he was in Phoenix, we’ll be rolling
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I was referring to Cheese (but actually the statement works for Lombo as well). Though Lombo has been getting better, I think he still is going to need many more games to get fully into form. When he does, watch out.
Ya I watched a Lombardi highlight vid from when he was with the Flames, he is still no where near that level.
Lombardi has hit 20 G once, 5 years ago…. Army will likely never do it again. I like our offensive depth, but I don’t think we are going to be a top 3 team offensively.
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Lombardi to Phoenix for Turris
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’m assuming you’re a Phoenix fan?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Its incredible how many people wouldn’t do that. I probably would, but I’d rather trade Bozak if given the opportunity…
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Well, I would say Lombardi is a known quantity, getting better, adds lots of speed to our game, etc. Not saying I wouldn’t want Turris, but for Lombo? eh, I think that’s paying too much for an unproven kid.
Unproven, 21 year old former 3rd overall kid.
Lombardi is good and all, but would I risk him for a shot at Turris? No question at all
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same here, gotta agree. Turris has a nasty pedagree, lots of upside.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
We know what Lombardi’s peak is and he is one hit away from pulling a Savard.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I can name plenty of 1st/2/nd/3rd overalls who amounted to just about nothing. It’s no guarantee. I’d take Turris maybe for a pick, maybe a bottom six player (since that’s where he’d be here unless he proved himself)
Lombardi is essentially a bottom six player for us, when everyone else is healthy.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. And I’m not sure getting Turris for Lombo helps us right now.
I think the idea would be improving for the future. Of course the question is, does Turris still look like a top prospect. I really don’t know enough about him.
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Yeah fair enough, I just think that someone with Turris’ upside is worth rolling the dice on for a player like Lombardi.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Turris for Lombardi at the moment is an even swap. In 2 years or so, it’s a huge win. The Yotes aren’t trading Turris for a guy like Lombardi.
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No shit.
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That and they let lombardi go to free agency 2 years ago
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I would say Lombardi is a known quantity, getting better, adds lots of speed to our game, etc.
Lombardi is 29, I doubt he is getting any better. If, on the other hand, you mean getting back to his prime after injury, than I agree.
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Hehehe
My bad. Carry on, nothing to see here.
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we arn’t going to win by rushing prospects either
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
fair enough. Maybe you’re right, I guess after all this post lockout futility, I’m lacking in patience and I’m guessing a lot of Leafs Nation is too.
One or two games makes the difference between the PLAYOFFS!!!!1 and all those douchey “Golf Leafs Golf!” comments.
Oh well, if we go through a playoff-hope crushing slump from now to Christmas, at least Wilson’s head will be my present. So much the better.
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by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I bet if the Leafs won the cup in five you would bitch it wasn’t a sweep wouldn’t you
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we’re so far from that it’s not even funny. the upper end of my hopes and dreams right now is a 2nd round exit.
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by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
My guess is Colborne comes up for the third Tim Connolly injury aroundDecember/JanuaryMid-Late November.
depends on a lot of things, is armstrong healthy? who else is hurt? what do the Leafs need at the time? how is Colborn/Kadri/other call up ready player playing?
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I’d rather see Kadri up here before Colbourne. At some point the kid needs regular minutes in the NHL to see what he can really do. I just don’t think he gives a crap in the AHL anymore.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
right, but if Kadri isn’t giving it his all and is playing like shit in the AHL, he doesn’t deserve a call up. He HAS to give a crap no matter where he is playing
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
yup. I highly doubt thats how Kadri feels. Thats some fuckign entitlement right there. Wilson wouldnt put up with that crap
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Lombardi on the third is more scoring than we have had in the bottom 6 since Burke came in (except maybe Versteeg).
As well I think Lupul this year>Lupul last year because he had a summer to get back in shape instead of coming right back after a year off.
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Well considering it’s now reported that Colborne is out for tonight’s game in OKC, another Colborne rant seems pretty irrelevant.
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Any word yet on the specifics of the injury?
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well, that may be your reason then.
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by Peter de Chatham on Nov 8, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Hope the boys don’t get too distracted tonight from the long standing ovation Kris Versteeg will after his video tribute between TV Timeouts … ….. …… …..
#1 center playing PK?
Why is our fragile #1 center(who is coming off an injury) playing PK anyways? Shouldn’t his #1 priority be to concentrate on developing chemistry with his wingers? Sure he has played PK in the past but this is just not the right timing! Especially with Wilson/Burke’s top 6 bottom 6 format…no #1 center should be expected to be on the PK unless his name is Doug Gilmour.
by killerninetythree on Nov 8, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions
because he is pretty good at it historically and the Leafs PK is shit?
lots of legit number one centers play the PK, guys like Mike Richards and Johny Toews are some of the best PK guys in the NHL
seriously, really?
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I get the sentiment with regards to Connolly, he should focus on offense while he’s here, and we have Bozak, Lombardi and Grabbo who are likely all better on the PK (despite his historical goodness, that’s playing in front of Miller)
but there are many, many #1Cs who kill penalties
if the PK was working as it should I would agree with you, but it isn’t. So you have to try the guy who has shown he can play there
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
you’re right, but the problem is probably not Lombardi and Grabbo, and definitely not bozak (still no PK goal against), its mostly the D leaving guys in front of the net, the whole team not stopping passes with their sticks, and the goalies not being able to bail the team out.
but you’re right, gotta mix it up til it works
Special teams is his best use so you better put him out there. He’s equal opportunity, anyway, his last two injuries with the Sabres were on the power play.
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He’s equal opportunity, anyway, his last two injuries with the Sabres were on the power play.
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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Nov 8, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm calling rule 5
(despite his historical goodness, that’s playing in front of Miller)
Prove his quality on the PK was because of Miller.
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I thought it was common knowledge that the only reason Buffalo has stayed relevant over the last x number of years is because of Ryan Miller.
A) That doesn’t really alter the statement. Just judge Connolly relative to his teammates.
and
B) While thats true its exaggerated a bit on this blog (some bias?). It will also likely be less true now that there backup is Anyone-but-Lalime and his 9-26-5 on the Sabres.
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who would you prefer leino or connolly?
i think by the end of season both have the same points but connolly in much fewer games.
There is no quesiton in my mind that I would prefer Connolly.
1) We need a top 6 C more than we need a top 6 W
2) Connolly has way more of a history of proven production in the NHL
3) Connoly has simply produced way better than him through his entire career
4) If we are looking at their current contracts, than there is just no comparison. 2 years vs 6?
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Connolly has one more point in 7 less games and isnt signed to a stupid contract through 2017
you take Connolly every single time
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Leino is a 3rd line winger that some GMs got over-hyped on because of one good burst of production in the playoffs. Connolly is a 1st/2nd line centre. When healthy, it’s not even close.
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t prove it ATM cuz I’m at work and I’ve been trying to load NHL.com all day, it won’t work :(
I’m it’ll be pretty easily proven though
the point is, the leafs PK is garbage (in a large part) because we don’t have good goalies to save us. Logically, the Sabres PK is probably better, because they have a better goalie to bail them out
I'll check it out
Gimme a few.
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Using minimum of 1:30 minute/GP of PK and 30 GP for forwards on Buffalo and sorted by GA/60
2010/2011 2nd/5 (behind Pominville)
2009/2010 5th/6 (behind Hecht, Griere, Pominville, and Roy)
2008/2009 1st/6
2007/2008 4th/6 (behind Roy, Guastad, and Paille).
If we instead look at +/- on the PK/60
2010/2011 2nd/5 (behind Pominville)
2009/2010 3rd/6 (behind Hecht, and Pominville)
2008/2009 1st/6
2007/2008 3rd/6 (behind Roy and Paille)
So it looks like he is better than average on those teams.
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I suppose, but this still doesn’t paint an accurate picture
probably what would be best would be to look at GA/60 on the PK
Then look at that number when Miller is present and when its any other goalie (not sure if thats possible)
the point is not that he is better or worse than the rest of his teammates, because they’re not on the leafs, so its not a question of whether to put him in over them, its a question of whether to put him in over the rest of our players,
and I was just suggesting that as good as he might have been (he was average-above average) on those stats above, all his numbers are likely inflated by Miller (as are the rest of his team)
either way it doesn’t really matter
…. that’s what the top table is.
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whoops, didn’t realize the +/- above was +/- /60, thought it was just straight up +/-, thus why his ice time and +/- lined up pretty accurately
so he is actually a pretty decent penality killer, at least in comparison to the rest of the Sabres
Yup. Here is his PK Corsi Rel (with the same conditions)
2010/2011 3rd/5 (behind Pominville and Hecht)
2009/2010 3rd/6 (behind Pominville and Roy)
2008/2009 1st/6
2007/2008 3rd/6 (behind Pominville and Roy).
Shit Pominville is good on the PK… So he looks pretty sharp…
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It should be a fair assumption that both his and this teammates’ numbers should be equally inflated by Miller. Thus by comparing him to his teammates you can judge how good a PKer he is…
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yes this is a fair assumption, but you have no idea what the quality of his teammates penalty killing is,
just because he’s the Sabre’s best penalty killer doesn’t mean he’s good at all
(i might not believe that, but its a generalization you shouldn’t make)
and if you compare the +/- /60 of him (and sabres forwards) compared to the rest of the league, you’ll be able to see how they are. however, what I think would be most revealing is to find the +/-/60 with Miller, and +/-/60 without Miller. If its a Small Sample Size then you just look over multiple years
How would you suggest measuring his quality as a PKer? Corsi?
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yes I suppose so, as I said, I just think the most valuable stat would be PK Corsi Rel with Miller in net vs. PK Corsi Rel without Miller in net. Not sure how easily/if that data is collectable, but if that is, then I think that would be the most revealing stat about how good Connolly is at PKing.
We know he’s average-good in comparison to other Sabres, but we don’t neccessarily know how good the other Sabres are, as the constant for all of them is Miller. They could all be shit and Miller is just carrying them, or they could all be good and Miller has a marginal impact
I can’t get that data (don’t have the time…) and your sample size will likely get low too.
Besides Corsi Rel shouldn’t change all that much with goaltenders… (there could be some change because of confidence…
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Here is Connolly's Corsi Rel compared to the league on the PK (same conditions to be included)
2010/2011 41st/122
2009/2010 55th/120
2008/2009 47th/143
2007/2008 106th/154
So he was well above average in every year but 07/08. Looks good to me.
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at the very least we can qualify him as an experienced Penalty Killer
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't we just have a fanpost on this yesterday?
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by Back In Black on Nov 8, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
VRN wrote it a few days ago and it got posted on the front page yesterday. The comments section suggest that the conclusion wasn’t as clear cut as VRN originally proposed. He had an interesting dialogue with Eric T in there.
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I gave up on the comments too soon I guess…
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by Back In Black on Nov 8, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
not as clear, yes. it’s really a matter of opinion until we run full regression using as much information as possible over a lot of seasons. but even then i may depend on what metric you’re using to mesure success.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I’m more surprised when a #1C doesn’t kill penalties.
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by Back In Black on Nov 8, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they also have Jordan Staal who, when healthy, is one of the better PK guys in the NHL
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, just saying he doesn’t really have to, that and they like to play him 25 mins a game at ES and all the PP time
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Give him Kovalchuk mins in 3 min long shifts
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Kesler, Lecavalier….
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Jared, Skinny, Ben Schnell
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
that is the new bloody Mary
say his name three times in a mirror and he appears to inform you that using his name like that is unlawful and then he steals your vtech phones
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
then combs his eyebrows
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Chaim’d
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
“It’s totally unrelated to the earlier injury,” Wilson said. "He got hurt in the game the other night [against Boston]. I said it’s upper body; I’m not going to get into specifics.
So we’re all in agreement here: Tim Connolly now has TWO upper body injuries.
Should definitely keep a running count all season
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
His voodoo doll must be pinned to a dart board and bar league is in full swing.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
It’s crazy/ridiculous his bad luck with injuries. I’m starting to question his pain tolerance…I know that’s bad of me
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Sportsnet Magazine did a cool feature on all of DiPietro’s injuries, where they laid a goalie’s body out like a chart and counted all the time he’s missed based on body part. It was pretty funny.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
upper body injury can mean anything...
could be a sore throat, sinusitis, or wisdom teeth…anything ‘upper body’ is above the waist….could also be stomach flu which has been going around….
what would they call a injury to his hip...
a ‘middle of the body’ injury?? i guess it depends on how they place the border….
The man played through bone spurs in his hip, and from all accounts bone spurs are excruciating.
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
fair
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
You’ll never guess who the Sporting news chose as the smartest NHL player last year…
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It’s pretty funny that they use SAT scores and college GPA to determine this….ah well, I guess they had to compile a list somehow
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That was like the SI article about 15 years ago on Andy Katzenmoyer from OSU..he was taking bird watching, and pool management..etc.
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Hotel Management
Isn’t necessarily an easy program. There is a tonne of money in the field and I know some people in it…
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Maybe not easy….but I wouldn’t consider it hard
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I think its one of those programs that gets made fun of, but probably leads to lucrative positions…
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oh so it’s along the lines of my
theNumber14 – Brock, Business communications
Sounds like a bird course, and it is, but I seem to be doing pretty well despite that.
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Yeah I’m not saying it’s easy and wouldn’t want to offend anyone on this site that may be in hotel management.
I went to U of Guelph for a couple of years, they have a hotel and restaurant mgmt program. It was part of the commerce department – they still had like a wine tasting class and food services class but accompanied by econ, operations, acocunting, etc.. so its no bird watching but far from nuclear physics I think
hahha I’m actually at Guelph now, I have 2 months left in my PhD in Nuclear Physics…what year did you finish?
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That's right bud...
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by not norm ullman on Nov 8, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I know someone who graduated from that program. I never got the impression it was particularly intellectually challenging. Though I suppose you could say that about most university programs.
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I know someone taking it at Ryerson. Its basically a Business degree but applied to hospitality and tourism. I wouldn’t say its easy. Certainly not molecular biophysics.
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$500 per hotel, one hotel per property; seems easy enough.
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by GreatKingRat on Nov 8, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yahtzee!
…wait.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
aaaaaaaaaaaand colborne is hurt, so that’s why he didnt get called up
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions
shitty balls
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
what’s he got? broken connolly?
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Player Injury Type Injury Date
Tim Connolly Tim Connolly 24/07/20**
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
“Connollitis”
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From the Leafs Infirmary
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the best part of this is the background.
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
I like the raised index finger. It was the answer he gave reporters when they asked, “Is there any bone in your body that hasn’t exploded yet?”
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Moments later that finger snapped off as Connolly was scratching his nose….which also broke.
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That’s just a nice shop. Kudos.
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by A Lindros Jaw on Nov 8, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
How much is standing room?
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Thats my question.
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In general..
Yes
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standing room is awesome, so worth it
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
If I have to choose between that or the purples, I prefer standing room.
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Isn’t all standing room dry? Only reason I didn’t like it, view was great though.
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its only dry if you follow the rules. Ive had standing room 3 times, brought beer up there everytime. no one said a word
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GA/GP for playoff teams since 2007/2008
For teams that made the playoffs since 2007/2008 the highest GA/GP was Calgary in 2008/2009 with 248 GA or 3.02 GA/GP. Only another 2 or 3 were even above 3 GA/GP.
We currently sit at 3.29. We need to let in a half a goal less to get in. If we can keep up this ridiculous offense we may be able to get in with a quarter of a goal less/game.
Ideally we will sit at 2.7-2.75 GA/GP
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No surprise
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Also the tweet about Colborne discussed above
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This might explain why Leafs didn’t recall AHL’s leading scorer; via @TrevorVanK Marlies’ Joe Colborne day-to-day with lower body injury
At least its day-to-day
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
We’re so used to looking ahead that we’ve done it with our injury reports too…
Burke: Doc, how’s Tim?
Doc: Well, he’ll be day-to-day in three weeks!
Burke: Day-to-day?! Great! Let’s tell the media!
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Found this article too
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Biggs Named #CCHA Rookie Of The Week. Read More: is.gd/F514Ol
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And... a funny follow up
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Congrats to @Tyler_Biggs on being named rookie of the week in the #CCHA now answer your bbm !
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It’s nice to know that our 2 1st round picks from the 2011 draft seem to know each other pretty well already.
Also that Biggs is playing pretty well in the CCHA already as a freshman
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ya he could be pretty phisically dominant in a couple of years. Whatever you’re thoughts on him as a draft pick, his development will be interesting.
I hope he gets a call to the WJC this year, i never focused on him much last year. except for the gwg.
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I really want to see how he stacks up to some of the bigger names in the CHL
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McKegg gave Sparks a shoutout the other day too on twitter after playing them. Good to see our prospects chat with each other even though they’re on different teams and stuff.
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 8, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
just looking at numbers, sparks seems to be coming along nicely
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
really seems like alot of guys are proud to be part of the leafs. Cant remember who said it but (i think it was Friedman) someone mentioned that the leafs are becoming a much more desireable place to play. Really glad we have a solid management team in palce turning this ship around
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
That’s one of the things I’m looking forward to about living in Chicago this year, I get the Big Ten Network so I’ll be able to watch a number of Biggs’ games this winter
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sweeeeeet. REPORT BACK!
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Tallon can judge goaltending in less than 3000 shots!
That wasn’t going to happen right now in the NHL, but during Markstrom’s five-game NHL trial period, something happened. The Panthers’ timeline for him sped up considerably. Last year the 6-foot-3 Swede battled inconsistencies and injuries and Tallon wasn’t exactly sure what he had in the young goalie. Now he knows. Markstrom went 2-2-1, with a 2.05 goals-against average and .944 save percentage. Chances are that the next time he returns to the NHL, it will be for good.
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We all know its Mike Weaver driving up his svp.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
tallon using his former hawks contacts to build up little chicago in the panthers – campbell, skille, versteeg, kopecky…
the question being does he win the cup before or after his team has massive cap management problems? Or does he once again screw up the qualifying offers?
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
So the question is who plays tonight? Does Wilson keep the confidence in Scrivens and show that it wasn’t all his fault for the Boston game or does he go back to Gustavsson who probably thinks he “deserves” another chance.
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Pretty sure he already said Gus was starting
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
any idea when we can expect to see Reimer in net again…. would love to see him back against Sens for Hall of Fame game…..
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
No, I think they are still trying to maintain that he doesn’t have a concussion…only “concussion-like symptoms” , whatever that means…
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it means he has a concussion, essentially.
by Goosemonster on Nov 8, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
He’s out for the “foreseeable future”. Which is depressing. All I hope is that when he returns he can still play like he did last year and isn’t now “damaged goods”.
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we are straight up fucked if thats the case. might as well stop watching games. No way Gustavsson carries this team to the playoffs. No.way.
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ever heard of a trade? Don’t give up hope yet…
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not Turco. Maybe that’s why Burke was in Sweden scouting.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure a Swedish goalie is going to be much help short term
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Komi for Nabokov? Would we want Nabokov? Nabokov sucks in the playoffs, but that isn’t exactly our issue at the moment. Also IIRC has a 1 year contract for a really small amount of money
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Alright Komi and a 7th round pick for Nabokov and Tavares
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by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
He has a NMC, so he’d have to agree to come here. I wonder if they’d move Montoya. He’s 3rd on their depth chart, though his contract is so cheap they might figure he’s worth keeping anyway.
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Is he really 3rd on their depth chart? He’s playing the best of the three…
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Honestly you would think he would be their go-to, but because of Nabokov’s age, cheap contract (to showcase), and pedigree they’re playing him first
And then they’ve been going to “franchise goalie” Dipietro
so yeah Montoya is their 3rd string
But how bad is the NYI that we give up a guy who’s capable of handling 18 minutes a night?
Does Nabokov fit in with Allaire?
And more importantly, how does Bowen pronounce Nabokov?
IIRC they were looking for defensemen earlier this season.
And if Bowen being able to pronounce the names of players was a criteria for our roster… well we may just go ahead and fold the franchise
by Chi-town leafs on Nov 8, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I still want to convert Bobrovsky to forward and put him on a line with Grabovsky for just one period and have Bowen call it.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Only if we can simultaneously play some Tchaikovsky.
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would dump Komisarek for Nabokov in a heart beat. The cap savings moving forward would be worth it on their own.
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by Draglikepull on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
ever heard of a trade?
Who is going to trade us a starting goaltender?
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I hear Steve Mason might be available. I mean, he won Rookie of the Year a few years ago. Every single goalie who has won that has gone on to a long and great career.
Andrew Raycroft has had a long career.
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by T is for Truculence on Nov 8, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a big fan of my “Gustavsson for Clemmensen” idea.
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I just don’t see why Fla would do that. What is the advantage from their side?
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Gustavsson easier to loan (player has to consent). Markstrom up to stay. I’d throw in a 6th+ round pick to do it, too. Anywhere close to his last three years’ SVP (going back: .911, .912, .917) would be a huge improvement over our current backup goaltending.
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I would imagine they could get a better return from another team (like Columbus) who needs a goalie than a 6th and a shot at saving some money…
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Gustavsson would be their 3rd string goalie. They waive him, maybe he gets claimed.
Oh no. Now the broke team doesn’t have to pay their 3rd string goalie 1.3M to play in the AHL (or in Europe). ANd all they got out of it was a low pick, playing time for one of their top 3 prospects, and saved a bunch of cash.
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Why couldn’t they do the same thing with Clemmenson?
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If they waive him to the AHL, they’re still paying him. If they want to loan him to a euro team (to get some money back), the player needs to consent. If they want Markstrom up, Clemmensen needs to go out, and “to the AHL” is an expensive option for Florida. I also don’t expect much of a market for Clemmensen, as anyone looking for a starter will hunt for one of the bigger/younger options (Bernier, Schneider, Lindback, Harding).
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And if Gus doesn’t want to go Europe? They haven’t really gained anything…
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Then he gets waived all the same. They’ve gained a 6th round pick and still get to bring Markstrom up. Maybe they get a slightly better bid somewhere else, but, for an expiring contract of an old backup goaltender? I’m not sure there’s a line around the block for them to get anything out of it.
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We did snag a busted up Giguere close to the trade deadline. Im tryin to think of another situation where the ‘starter’ is being outplayed by a cheaper, younger guy who is primed to take over as #1
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hahah, yes he did. But i mean, right now.
Are we going to expend assets to try and snag a harding or a schneider?
NYI is a target with Montoya and Nabokov….
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Would the wild want to move backstrum big contract or halak from st louis?
Nabokov’s contract and term is better if reimer is coming back.
I think Halak is going to look great with Hitchcock there. St Louis should improve defensively almost right away.
Not sure about Backstrom… Minny put alot of faith in him, but i guess you never know
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I don’t think Halak is going to be better than Gus. Too bad because I thought he was reallly good, better goalie than Price.
I’d rather have Backstrom, even though he’s old, we’ve seen goalies perform exceptionally well until they’re in their late 30’s. Might not be a bad stopgap, til Reimer/Scrivens/Rynnas are done fighting for #1.
whoa there
Backstrom isn’t moving. He’s certainly not a stopgap for any team, he’s a number one – he’s had just one year below .916 out of his last 5, and three of those were above .920. Harding might move, but it would be for a hefty sum. Halak is and is going to be better than Gus. He is not going to look back on a better career than Price.
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????
I don’t think Halak is going to be better than Gus.
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I actually think Minny is going to led Backstrom go (maybe for assets at the deadline)
they’re pretty high on Harding
didnt backstrom sign a big deal… like, last year or am I misremembering stuff again
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Harding is 27, and is coming off a major ACL injury. If you discount his 19-game season as a SSS, his highest is .908. And as mentioned below, Backstrom has a big contract. Harding has not made Backstrom expendable.
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If you discount his 19-game season as a SSS, his highest is .908.
He has had a 7 GP 0.960 season and a 19 GP 0.929 S% season. He was there top prospect a bunch of years back when both him and their starter of the time (I believe Fernandez) and he got injured and their random UFA European goalie came in and stole the show and job (Backstrom). He has been their young goalie for a long time. Frankly, I was surprised he resigned their this year as a UFA.
His career NHL S% is 0.919 in 88 GP with 2410 SA. Of course thats over 6.5 year period…
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The funny thing is that I just assumed we’d all agree to discount a 7 game season as well. He’s a fine backup, but he’s a little old to be called a prospect, and is pretty far from “let’s put a starter’s load on him and move our proven number one.”
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you put those numbers together though and its 0.937 in 26 games, which is pretty good, much better than what Reimer put up last year
And if you keep cutting down the sample size, you could just look at one game in which he had a shutout. I mean, at that point, he’s unstoppable!
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Well look at his overall s% in the NHL. 88 GP and 0.919 S% with 2410 shots.
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Yeap. Or you’ve got the guy with .917 career (4th highest career among active) and 8129 SA. He’s had just one year below league average SVP (excluding his current 8 game season), and is capable of starting about 60 games.
Harding is fine – I’m glad to see him coming back from the knee injury, and he seems like a classy guy. But to say that Minnesota should/could/would let Backstrom go because they’re high on Harding? Quite frankly, they’re high if they do it.
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Oh I wasn’t suggesting they should waive him at all. Just that your original assertion:
If you discount his 19-game season as a SSS, his highest is .908.
I also think he may still very well be a prospect.
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I dunno. There’s gotta be a better word for it. I wouldn’t want to call Gustavsson a prospect at this point, either. “A player who may yet have more upside”?
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I don’t think he’s all that old to be a goalie prospect. Crawford, Niemi, and Backstrom (to name a few) all became starters around that age…
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Harding has not played more than 30 games in a season at any league since 2006-2007. He’s had some awful luck, but you’d be nuts to toss him into a 50 start role at this point.
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I would like him in a 1a 1b role (ie here with Reimer). But thats just me.
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I like Harding. I hope he does well. I’d take him on the Leafs, for sure. But there’s no way in hell Minnesota would move Backstrom so that he can get more net time. That’s what I took issue with.
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Than we are in agreement. I would want him in a situation where he is competing with another young goalie still fighting for the starter role (Reimer, Mason two years ago (who failed), what I think should have happened in Philly this year with Bob, etc)
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Shrug. What were the chances we were going to get Giggy? I’m not going to stress out over Reimer potentially being out for the season until I see more reason to…
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agreed. my post came across as WAYFO a little too much then how I really feel.
Reimer needs to come back ASAP, thats for sure. Im just not conifdent in our plans B and C and I really dont like the idea of having to trade for a goalie because of what it may cost us in assets.
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might as well stop watching games
Its amazing how much it annoys me when I read/hear this.
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More room on the wagon for the diehards
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
dont ever imply im not diehard again, please and thank you
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by Matt_Roberts on Nov 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh for the love of….
I WASNT SERIOUS GODAMMIT
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by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 8, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Per Mirtle No Clemmonson tonight… Theodore
It will be Jonas Gustavsson vs Jose Theodore in goal tonight with the Panthers in Toronto.
5-4 final. I’m not sure for who
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm…. I think I have no choice but to put Theodore in in my pool.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
What kind of voodoo effect does your pool players have on their actual performance? Does it make them better or worse?
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by MapleLeafMole on Nov 8, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
usually depends if you start them or not.
by Nigel Cadbury on Nov 8, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
It hides Versteeg hat trick well… Seriously though, Florida’s offence is still pretty weak. Steeg, Fleischmann, Weiss and Campbell carry the load with not much contribution from the rest of the lineup – I don’t expect Jason Garrison to continue scoring at a 30 goal pace.
Well, he does have 13 Pts. in 13 GP.
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I picked him and Lupul up off of free agency the day before the season started. Pretty happy with them.
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Regarding Willis’ article – it was surprising (also encouraging) to me to find out the Leafs have been 11th in EV SA.
In fact, with decent goaltending we might even expect the Leafs to improve a little in this area – their shots-against rates at even-strength are the 11th-best in the NHL, and if that continues we should see their goals against totals improve as the goaltending stabilizes.
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What is this stable goaltending thing they speak of?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but he is day-to-day atm
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
he’s vague update to vague update
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by sportsfan2 on Nov 8, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is actually rather funny or sad
Before Frattin went down to the Marlies, Leafs enforcer Colton Orr continually reminded him how he had a goal – and he didn’t. Expect the good natured fun to continue if Frattin still can’t find the net. “We live on the same floor in the same buidling. He always lets me and (Jake) Gardiner know he’s the leading scorer in our building. So we definitely want to pop one in.”
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Nov 8, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions
at least Colton dosen’t take himself to seriously.
I’m almost starting to feel badly for the guy. then again, he’s making $1,000,000 this year. 1%-er.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Nov 8, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
From the Sportsnet.ca game preview
Connolly is expected to be sidelined 10 to 14 days because of an upper-body injury, the result, he says, of a cross-check he took Saturday versus Boston. Connolly adds that he doesn’t recall ever suffering this particular type of injury before.
Amazing, he’s still finding new ways to be out of the lineup.
With all of this Turris talk (Shameless self-promotion)
I decided to do an analysis of top 5 picks to see how good they are. I analyzed the top 5 picks from ‘96-’05
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I need something to distract me. And I assure you I am well higher than that:p
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I tried to say: I am doing quite well in med school.
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Exactly.
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Ok, I’ll bite, why? Not being a smartass, just honestly curious for this particular belief
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Me too actually.
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you too what?
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I don’t think he is all that good at running a powerplay
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He did a good job in Colorado and is doing a good job here for that matter…
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I disagree. I don’ t think he has been all that good. The Leafs powerplay stinks. Hard to say he is doing a good job
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He’s producing…
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on pace for 52 points, but I agree with Leafer, there is something about his game that just bothers me, I cannot quantify it at all
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by JaredFromLondon on Nov 8, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what I was getting at. He’s 30th/90 in pts/60 on the powerplay for dman. Phaneuf is just ahead of him at 25th.
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He just doesn’t have Kabby’s magical ability to skate circles around penalty killers and gain the zone when they absolutely HAD to gain it (like late in a PP). I’ve liked his (offensive) game other than that.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Nov 8, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
What bothers me is that he’s generally god awful in his own end. But I guess we knew that going in.
by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Feels like he is skating too slowly especially through the neutral zone. That and the stupid drop pass to a player that is standing still is brutal. They don’t have any speed entering the zone
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You have caused me to grab a beer out of the fridge WAY earlier than I had hoped to today.
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Go grab another
It’s a Tuesday and we’re playing a Southeast division opponent.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Nov 8, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
That was the exact opposite of fun
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Whereever 67 sound is
I take back my comment about the PP being fine. You were right and here is the evidence. DAMN IT.
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You said the powerplay was fine?
I hate to say this but, do you watch the game? The powerplay is horrific.
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I do watch the game
And have seen terrible, terrible inability to gain the zone. But we have still been managing to convert a reasonable amount (were 15th or 16th in conversion rate until Saturday), so I thought I was just falling through to a confirmation bias of expecting them to suck and noticing it more.
It turns out they have been terrible and their shooting percentage is just ridiculously high and when that drops, they’ll be as terrible as they look.
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I was clearly being an ass with that comment.
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I see.
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I just ran the numbers on a per minute basis – we are still dead last at 0.62 shots per min of PP time :(, I was hoping some of our power play goals like 15 secs into PP would change the data but sadly no
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