The Great Regression
Saying "hate to say I told you so" would be a bold-faced lie. I enjoy being right, even if it's about something that pains me.
Since the beginning of the season, Danny Gray's (@ACatNamedFelix) unbridled "PLAYOFFS!!1" optimism has been pitted against my own "REGRESSION IS NIGH" negativity, and while the Leafs have yet to slide out of the playoff picture - they may well not at all this season - they've definitely regressed closer to a spot in the standings more commensurate with my own expectations.
Behold, this table taken from a recent James Mirtle article at the Globe and Mail:

Jump for other, non-depressing links and factoids.
Leafs Links:
The Full Brian Burke Interview: Beyond the Barn Fight
You may have already seen this, but Justin Bourne has posted a much longer segment of this video at Backhand Shelf. Some really interesting stuff in there.
How a young Leaf fan found camaraderie up in the old 'greys' at Maple Leaf Gardens
A podcast and more reminiscence from Michael Langlois at Vintage Leaf Memories.
Weekend Recap: Marlies win Back to Back, Scrivens Looks Good in Both
Kyle The Reporter with a few updates from the farm.
Leafs Ownership Change & Why It Makes Sense
Mitch Smith at AIH has a quote from our very own PPP to support his opinion.
Other Hockey Links:
Carlyle's vaction is over + 30 Thoughts
The latest from Elliotte Friedman. You read now.
Yes, There's Hockey Without Fighting
Andrew Podnieks at Slap Shot - from The New York Times hockey blog - with a couple interesting thoughts. He clearly forgets the rise in number of Leafs fights since Brian Burke has arrived, but hey, I can let that one slide.
Kings fire Terry Murray; ex-Flyers coach Stevens interim boss
Greg Wyshynski has the story at Puck Daddy.
Kaberle enters Bell Centre on home side
Oh, Kabby. I can't believe it's come to this. From Bill Beacon of the CP via the Globe.
Crosby trudges back to the sidelines with concussion-like symptoms
David Shoalts from the Globe reports that Sid's had a setback.
Hoss Hall of Fame Induction: Gary Roberts
The latest from Dirty Dangle.
Have You Noticed?
5 crazy things from page one of the NHL's scoring leaderboard. From Justin Bourne at Backhand Shelf.
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I do too. I actually watch Satellite Hotstove now just to see what Friedman has to say, he seems to me to be one of the best sports journalists around.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
one of the best in the business.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
I get most of my hockey reading done on blogs, here, Puck Daddy etc, his stuff is definitely a cut above most of the other MSM stuff like Cox, etc. Also can’t forget Mirtle, he is very good.
yeah but I don’t view Mirtle and Siegel as the same kind of sports journalist as Friedman. They seem to stick to the facts, provide a bit of analysis but that’s really about it – they do it very well compared to most MSM journalists. Friedman is more of an insider guy, who provides new insight or information on a whole range of things related broadly to the NHL.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Friedman’s really more like McKenzie, Dreger, or LeBrun.
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I am a huge fan of McKenzie and Friedman. I like Dreger and am neutral (I like at times, but he annoys me at others) to LeBrun.
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I like them because they have actual sources other than, you know, the voices in their heads (lookin at you, Milbury)
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
yes…Mirtle is very good…(he might be watching us now…)
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by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
What’s better than spending every free minute on PPP?
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
damned if I know…although my manager may have some ideas….
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by James Mirtle on Dec 13, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Kind of surprised that Kadri rumours are flying around a lot more after reading that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
*AREN’T flying around
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Just sayin'
If Kadri gets moved it’s gotta be in a package for a prime age top line/top pairing guy, no?
If it isn’t for that top C we want, I don’t want to move him. Kadri is going to be a GOOD player, he’s got all the right skills and he’s working hard in the AHL – over PPG. It better be for some good shit if we move him.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I’m just throwing things out there, but if one of Weber or Suter became available, Kadri would be the kind of guy NSH would be looking for in a package.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. Just because teams are scouting him doesn’t mean the Leafs are shopping him.
Teams could be getting a better idea of what he’s capable of because they plan on asking for him back for any big fish Burke goes after.
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Oh its true, I just really, really don’t want us to give up on what is really our best prospect (Colborne compete with him in that respect) because that’s what we always have done. And I’d – for once – like to see us develop our guy – so he can go out and punish other teams (especially Ottawa/Montreal) while we take solace in the fact we can actually develop and ride a great/very good player.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
It’s nice because he’s actually like, developing and scoring and shit in the AHL now. Not being forced into the spotlight and constantly scrutinized.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
exactly. My guess is he gets a call up next time the injury bug hits us, as his play has been really good as of late (didn’t he only get 1 or 2 points in his first 6 games back in the AHL? Now he’s over PPG).
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Yep it would take a lot for me to be OK with trading him. Like, a lot. I watched him play last Friday vs. the Bulldogs and his all-around game is rounding out well. You always hear about players finding it easier in the NHL compared to the AHL because it’s more structured. I think Kadri is getting to that point. If he can play with people who can consistently send and receive hard passes on the tape, he’s going to score at the NHL level.
he seems to be shooting a lot more in the AHL. In the NHL he was more of a playmaker, but he’s got a great shot too.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
He is shooting way more (it could be because he can get open more though). In the NHL he has shot at 1.61 shots/game. He is over 3 shots/game in the AHL this year.
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It’s a lot easier to get shooting lanes, etc. against AHL defensemen too.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
This is why I argue that shooting a lot in the NHL is actually a skill and not just a guy randomly throwing the puck at the net more often (Jason Blake notwithstanding).
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Correct.
I’m a big advocate of shot quantity strongly correlating with success.
Another reason I worry about Kulemin’s production.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
That is what I was trying to get at with this
(it could be because he can get open more though)
I was just trying to say he could be getting more opportunities to shoot because of the quality of opposition.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
i know it's irrational
But I really want to draft and develop a star so much, that I’d almost prefer they trade another prospect instead of him. (ie: Colborne)
I’m tired of the ribbing the Leafs take for being poor drafters. With players like Schenn, Reimer, Gunnarsson Kadri and Frattin, it’s nice to see the Leafs drafting some players who end up getting remotely close to winning NHL awards at the end of the year (not that any of those guys are there yet)
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We have done very well with our drafting actually. Its extremely rare to get a repeat allstar after the top 10. A lot of our first rounders are pretty damn good players around the league (not all stars, but good), just on different teams (Steen, Rask, Boyes, etc). Our 2nd+ picks have also panned out pretty well over the last decade.
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yep, consider the Red Wings for a moment – look at their website on Hockeysfuture and it’s apparent they have no future, their drafting went completely cold after they got lucky with all those Swedes
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by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
2 Swedes (plus a late blooming Swede in Franzen) and 1 Russian.
If you ask Pronman they have the top prospect pool in the league.
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for 2nd/ 3rd line talent, maybe. Tatar, Nyquist and Smith aren’t going to replace Lidstrom, Zetterberg and Datsyuk.
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by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously not, they weren’t drafted in the 7th round. That’s where Detroit finds its superstars.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think Pronman’s nuts.
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I don't actually think he is nuts
He provides good analysis and its nice to have one guy who reviews everyone. But I think some of his opinons are truly out there.
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Exactly, teams are likely just doing their due diligence. We have a successful AHL team with a lot of prospects on it and a GM who has a reputation for making big trades.
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GM’s with reputations for making big trades
by gnarlybattleship on Dec 13, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
This is pretty much the type of deal I’d have in mind. Trade for a top D. I think that is their biggest struggle right now that either Reimer has to bottle lightning again or an improvement needs to be sought.
I really don’t know if a forward is as necessary, though could see them ship Kadri+current forward if something good comes along.
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Suter would be the type of player I want, but I would be very hesitant to trade Kadri for a pending UFA.
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This is my only hesitation for Suter. And it’s not like you can make a prospect trade “conditional” like you could on a conditional 1st if he re-signs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I wouldn’t do it for Suter, why not just wait until July 1st? (AKA. Brian Burke’s “Draft”)
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
He might not make it to July 1, i.e. Bryzgalov styles.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Waiting for free agents to hit the market isn’t the best team-building strategy either.
Especially when they DONT.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
meh, my feeling is many guys want to test the market, and I’m not sure NSH can afford both Weber and Suter in addition to Rinne.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure NSH can afford both Weber and Suter in addition to Rinne.
That’s a lot of people’s expectation. I’m not too sure as I don’t know what mgmt is thinking. But I know that they better fucking figure it out before the end of Feb or you’ll have Suter walk for nothing like B. Richards.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree, I think my view is that even if they can afford Suter and Weber…they blow basically their whole budget on three guys. How do they promise them to remain competitive with a bunch of pluggers and draft picks? My guess is at Suter’s age he wants to win a cup and be on a more competitive team. Don’t know if that’s us, but I got to think he wants ot test the market knowing NSH’s limitations.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
To convince both Suter and Weber to stay, Nashville will need to increase its budget and not just maintain it in order to field a contending team. I think the players want to see Nashville spend beyond its team-imposed cap, but even if Poile is willing I don’t know that the team has that kind of money. Besides who will the team spend the money on? We’ve seen the FA market really dry up over the past few years. Who’s going to make it all the way to July 1st?
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Right now top drawer TALENT (shouldn’t be read as best players to get) are Parise, Semin, Hemsky. If you were going to spend some money for offense, there is a good place to start. Don’t know how many would thrive in that system though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Their systems are pretty boring, though they work pretty well given the limited talent on the team.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
It’s pretty unlikely Parise makes it to free agency. Either he signs in NJ, or he refuses and they move him at the deadline. Lamoriello won’t lose him for nothing, esp when his team is going nowhere.
Hemsky and Semin, yeah I could see that happening. But if they’re the top talent, Nashville is going to get outbid real quick
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
doesnt mean Parise signs right away with whoever he’s traded to.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
He’s the same deal as Weber or Suter. If a team trades for him they probably do so with a deal in place already.
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
You better have a fucking monster offer ready to compete with UFA prices though.
Although the result of there being no new CBA this summer could scare some players into taking deals before the new one goes into effect.
Especially with large Signing bonuses.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
If you thought the Richards sweepstakes were nuts just wait until Parise, Suter, and Semin hit the open market on the same day. Lucky for the Leafs we can send 3 GMs to go after Parise and another 3 to go after Suter.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Weber is RFA.
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With a minimum qual offer of $7.5M.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I forgot that. But you could qualify him with like a 2 year contract and try to negotiate a longer one? I dunno.
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Either way he's making huge coin.
When the bidding STARTS at 7.5M, it’s going to cost a pretty penny
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I almost wouldn’t want a part of it.
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And thats for an RFA, who are traditionally known as having less leverage.
Makes me worry what Suter, a UFA, who has all the leverage in the world, is going to be asking for if he keeps this season up.
Might not be $7.5M, but could be a seriously frontloaded $6.5M 5-7 years+
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
the fucking Wizniewski contract scares me. That thing made no sense.
I would hope Suter could come in at that range. 5.5-6M for 5-7 years.
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Either way thats huge cash and we know how UFAs can turn out.
That said of the big boys “available”, Suter and Parise, he’s probably the one to go for. If somehow we miraculously find cap room.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
7.5 is pretty crazy. If the Leafs didn’t have Dion, though, I’d probably want the Leafs to chase him
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ask NSH for permission to speak to Suter’s agent before the trade. If there’s no deal to be made with Suter, don’t make the trade.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I get the impression that this doesn’t happen much. I agree with it, but I think the player’s current GM doesn’t want to give power to the new GM (I don’t think it necessarily does give much power away, but that’s the impression I’ve gotten).
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Ya, if it happens before like, the draft or July 1 it makes sense, but at the deadline… you don’t hear about that much.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
It can also work to your advantage: if you know you can negotiate/re-sign the player, you may offer a better package. If Nashville’s decided to shop them around, they might as well get the best deal possible
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
This is my line of thinking as well.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
It would have to be a Suter, a Yandle, an Edler, someone like that. A guy who can shut it down defensively but also generate offense.
Yandle isn’t going anywhere, he’s one of the few really really bright spots in PHX whose name isn’t Tippett.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Edler is unlikely to move either unless the team really stinks it up next year and they decide to move him near the end of the year. I can see him being moved after the 2013 playoffs (Ehrhoff style) if they can’t get him under contract.
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Yeah I wasn’t implying that they were available, just those are the kind of guys we need and in the proper age range.
Fair enough. I am a huge Edler fan. For the last couple years I have felt that him, Pitkanen, Campbell, and Robidas were the most underrated defenders in the league. Maybe Boyle too (but I think he probably gets the credit. I just love him).
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I don't think Quebec is going to be ready in time.
The new Colisée isn’t supposed to be finished until September 2015.
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I don’t think Phoenix hangs on that long, but hey, what do I know.
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Unless a new ownership group is willing to stick it out in PHX until the stadium is ready…
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The NHL is perfectly happy in Phoenix as long as they keep getting their bribe money.
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I thought the NHL was pretty much done with propping up the Coyotes. It’s not like the league is rolling in the dough right now.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
They aren’t propping the Coyotes up anymore, the City of Glendale is doing that now.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
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and they’ve already stated they won’t do it next year.
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They could in theory go there for a few years while the new arena is built.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Ottawa played under some grandstands for a couple season, I doubt it’d be a huge deal in the short term.
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Well the MTS Centre according to Wikipedia has seating for 15,004 pepople during hockey games. So it’s not such a stretch.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
They can play in the old Colisee until it’s finished.
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by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, salary dump obviously.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Brassard for Kadri straight up? I almost lost my lunch. What a goof.
That was before the 30 thoughts article though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Who the hell suggested that?
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Some twitter goof
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Is there even a reason to go after Brassard (with a reasonable deal)?
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For TOR? Not really.
Maybe a team like OTT or something. They’ve got some stuff to gamble with to get another top C. After Spezza it gets a bit rough.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
He had a lot of potential (and actually did stuff in the NHL) and now seems to be shitting the bed. He is the epitome of someone who could benefit from a “change of market”.
I would guess Carolina, Ottawa, NYI, Fla, Winnipeg, Colorado, Anaheim may be the types of teams interested. I just checked though and his cap hit is quite high for what he brings though (3.2 million), so I can’t imagine he brings back much of anything.
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For God sakes though other teams, stop giving Columbus draft picks – they just fucking ruin them.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
A guy at HB who writes on the CBJ. Then Jeff Marek & Wysh started talking about it on their radio show.
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Is that where Marek got his “rumours spreading in Toronto” like line? I thought he was better than that.
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Tim and Sid are back, this time on 590 from 1-4pm weekdays. Their Tim and Sid Uncut podcast was fucking incredible and I’m hoping they can bring back some of that hilarity with this new show. It sucks that it’s live on the radio now and they can’t be vulgar like they were on the podcast.
Someone would have to be on drugs to suggest that. And even then, that’s sad. There’s really no one on Columbus I’d want for Kadri other than perhaps Nash or Carter.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Someone would have to be on drugs to suggest that.
Or stupid. Brassard makes $3m a season. Leafs are at the cap.
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It would be like a real blast from the past! Trade for all of the middling talent!
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Boy, every piece of garbage that comes into the league, you gotta buy it.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
But he was 5th overall! Brayden schenn was 5th overall! Brassard=Brayden Schenn!
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Shit 6th overall.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Regress any further and Burke will be offering up a major shake up. 5 coaches fired already this season and Wilson is still employed. There’s a bet no one would have taken at the start of the season.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:15 AM EST reply actions
If we end December on a losing record, as in November, then yes I could easily see it happening.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
esp if Carlyle is still available
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
If Burke hires Carlyle we might as well pick up Pronger and rebrand as the Toronto Maple Ducks
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Lupul for Pronger round 3?
Maybe if they throw in Couturier.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Maple Duck sounds kind of delicious.
by TheCeej on Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Does it ever.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t Lupul like, not thrive under Carlyle?
Feel like that’s probably unlikely. He’ll get a new job before Wilson gets fired.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Friedman suggested it might be in LA.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
Thought they were looking at Darryl Sutter
Hahahahahaahahaha
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think Wilson is about as likely to get fired as we are to trade for Pronger
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
How many coaches have been fired this year so far - 4?
I wonder how many others fall before the year is over.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
5
St Louis, Anaheim, Washington, Carolina and now LA.
Cynically Sarcastic
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completely forgot about St Louis it happened so fast
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
How are we defining “before the year is over”? My answer to your rhetorical question will depend on your answer to my rhetorical question?
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Let's call it trade deadline.
After 82 games are over I count as “end of season” for non-playoff teams, and I could see a few teams firing immediately.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Trade deadline, eh?
I’ll say 2 more go by then.
As far as the frontrunners to be fired, I’d go with Capuano in Long Island and Martin in Montreal.
Cynically Sarcastic
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Martin was the one I was thinking of.
I always just assume they’re okay with being awful on long-island if it means more high draft picks.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not so sure, I think it’d take us falling out of the range of expectations that Burke/the media/every one had at the beginning of the season.
Or an extended losing skid.
Either/or
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Two months with a losing record (Nov/Dec) would do that. Down 1 of 2 so far. We got to pick it up.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Hi,
This is Basic Math calling.
7-6-1 is not a losing record.
Have a great day.
Cynically Sarcastic
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by clrkaitken on Dec 13, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Math burn’d
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
true indeed, it’s about .500. Still not good enough, but true not a losing record.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
/exasperated exhale
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
/miming head banging on desk
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
/comes in late
What’s happening, leafs on the PK?
by GettinGiggy on Dec 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
It also depends on the injury situation (if December is like November’s string of injuries)
Burke’s not going to fire Wilson if he can use the injury “excuse”
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
In all honesty I think he at least rides it out until the trade deadline of finishes the season.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I think it’s pretty unlikely that Burke lets Wilson finish the season if he doesn’t get an extension. Teams don’t leave coaches as sitting ducks like that. It becomes a distraction.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t this the ultimate test of Burke’s “accountability” method?
Wilson hasn’t really “earned” an extension per se, so it’s not right to give him one.
The players haven’t really “earned” Burke’s loyalty to them over his coach, so they need to keep playing hard for him.
I honestly believe that if Burke felt someone was playing out the string until a new coach came on board, Burke would ship him out.
I think the whole lame duck thing is just something we’ve assumed to be the norm, even though there’s never really any evidence to the contrary. If there are people in the dressing room cynical enough to not give their full effort because the coach doesn’t have a multi-year contract, why the fuck are they there?
Cynically Sarcastic
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Given Burke’s “man of character” thing, does he really want to leave Wilson out there during the home stretch of the season to face questions every night about what it’s going to be like to be out of a job?
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Wilson’s a big boy and has proven to be pretty capable of taking care of himself with the Toronto media.
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He’s evolved from coming of as a crusty curmudgeon to straight up owning them now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
You make a good point.
The problem, however, is Burke has only fired one coach mid-season: Mike Keenan. I don’t think he fires Wilson. He lets Wilson have the season. If he makes the playoffs, he’ll be extended. If he doesn’t make the playoffs, he won’t be.
I would have been more concerned if Burke had already offered Wilson an extension
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Maybe someone’s brought this up before, but could the problem possibly be that maybe Wilson isn’t a good coach for Burke-style teams?
I wish I the comparative stats on the Ducks and Sharks would bear some differences out, but their stats for 2006-07 are almost identical.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20062007&gameType=2&viewName=summary
Indeed, the only difference between the two teams was that the Sharks were the superior team when leading after the 1st and 2nd periods, winning .853 and .891 % of the time. This is compared to .724 and .842 for the Ducks for the same stat.
And if anything, that would seem to show Wilson as being a superior defensive coach, so it can’t be that. Maybe Burke and Wilson’s styles just don’t jive in some way. What do you guys think?
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think Wilson has had a lousy team every year he’s been the coach other than this year, and I wouldn’t expect anyone to win many games with Toskala or Gustavsson as their starting goalie and Matt Stajan or Joey Crabb as 1st line forwards.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest though, this isn’t a traditional Burke style team. (where’s the truculence?)
As for being a defensive coach he should be able to have a better PK than we currently do. I’ve never been a Wilson fan. I think he’s a Paul Maurice like coach, in that his reputation isn’t deserved based on his record.
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To be honest though, this isn’t a traditional Burke style team. (where’s the truculence?)
Maybe a “Burke-style team” isn’t what everyone’s made it out to be.
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Maybe a "Burke-style team" isn’t whateveryone’sBurke made it out to be.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest I’ll be that Burke’s tried to add “truculent” guys and just hasn’t had success. If Laich made it to UFA last summer, for example, I’m willing to bet Burke would have gone after him.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, even Burke has had recent interviews saying that there’s less room for the enforcer in hockey, that everyone needs to stay fast (ref: TSN interview about a week or two ago). The idea of a “Burke” team hasn’t been updated, though.
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I think you’re misrepresenting my optimism. I agreed with you, I just didn’t want to face reality because it was a lot more fun than waiting for the bottom to fall out. We’re in the same place now and I enjoyed our hot streak without focusing on when it was going to end. If we were to chart our levels of enjoyment I would have much more net enjoyment than you right now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 9:16 AM EST reply actions
You’re just trying to win the net enjoyment competition by diminishing the enjoyment he is getting from saying he was right and you were wrong.
So transparent.
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Oh my yes. But it was only in rebuttal to his proposition that his satisfaction of being right was greater than my forced ignorant bliss.
And to be fair, we were both “right”. I knew the team was playing way over it’s head.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
the classy thing....
for J.P. to do would have been to say nothing. “I told you so” makes me a SAAAAAAAAAD panda.
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
I won’t lie, the smugness of knowing you’re right and letting people know you’re right without saying “i told you so” is so much more enjoyable anyway.
That way they just look at you, waiting for you to say it, but you don’t.
BEST.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Zero sum hockey fandom!
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
net enjoyment
I love it. I would say overall my “net enjoyment” is quite high as well. I think it will stay high as long as the Leafs have a playoff position.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly, there will be plenty of time to worry if/when the Leafs are outside of the playoff picture, why bother doing so now?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
net enjoyment
not referring to the goaltending situation of course
by GettinGiggy on Dec 13, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
That Brian Burke interview is one of the best things I’ve ever read/watched/listened to to learn about the inner working of hockey. Burke rules.
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Burke sounds like a guy you just want to sit down and go through a 12 pack with.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
He probably only drinks whiskey.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I think one reason that piece turned out so well is that the interviewer asked simple questions and then just let Burke give as much detail as he wanted without interrupting.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
HOLY SHIT IS IT TIME FOR HOCKEY YET?!
Jonesin’ bad.
by Brit Selby's Love Child on Dec 13, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions
yeah, it seems like forever since they’ve played. then they’ve got a game on Friday instead of Thursday, blergh. which makes it a back to back with Saturday’s, so they’ll lose at least one guaranteed, i’m just praying it’s in OT
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
No guarantee. But if you can’t win any back-to-backs, dont bother trying for the playoffs.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
True
Though every year I’m surprised by the large variance in back-to-back games between teams. For instance (thanks to On the Forecheck) Carolina plays back-to-back a full 24 times this season. That’s ridiculous, but even more so when compared to Calgary, Colorado, and Tampa’s league low 10 times. If I’m Rutherford, I’d be pissed because that’s a huge disadvantage for his team.
I understand that schedule making is difficult, but a 14 game gap? Just ridiculous.
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Yeah that’s way too much variance. What is the NHL average record in back to back games?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
You have no idea, I have a class tonight, which will make it a full week since I’ve watched any hockey
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Record the game and watch it when you get home. Do not check your phone or turn on your PC or tv.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
I live in Chicago, I doubt anyone will mention the Leafs game.
And good idea
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
They’ll all be talking when Kessel scores 5 tonight.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
God I hope so, that’d be the kind of thing I’d like to hear before watching the game
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
One of the best things ever is taking a 7-10 class and having random people start cheering and/or moaning during hte lecture. My one prof was a huge Leaf fan who demanded us to keep our laptops connected to the Internet so he could get live results. Awesome.
During the exam, he even wrote score updates on the blackboard.
Exam week goes by so slow without hockey. Thank god we still have beer.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 13, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
The article at AIC hurts my brain. First, I wish I had edit powers over there to fix the many grammatical errors. Second, the author jumps all over the place and makes assumptions about a second team in Toronto, without actually showing his work. MLSE is going to buy a second NHL team and relocated them to the ACC? And sell the controlling stake of the Leafs to Tannenbaum? That seems to indicate spinning the Leafs off from MLSE, which makes no sense. I’m also fairly certain that one ownership group cannot hold controlling shares for more than one team.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Yeah, otherwise you could pirate each team as necessary (Oh so the Leafs are contenders this year? why don’t we trade Unnamed superstar player from the Markam ____’s for a bag of pucks)
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
You can own a “controlling share” in one team, and up to 10% of a number of other teams.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, poorly written IMO. The author makes an unsupported assumption that a 2nd team in Toronto will be just as successful as the Leafs and therefore MLSE would be willing to allow another team to relocate to the GTA.
The part I found particularly humourous was when he tried to manipulate the following tweet,
Bell CEO says company won’t divest itself of stake in the #habs. “We’ll work with the NHL to accommodate any of their needs.”
Into:
Working with the NHL to accommodate their needs? Do tell, and what are the NHL’s needs? Successful relocations to better markets? ALIENS!?
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
There will be no shortage of willing ownership groups in the GTA for a second team. The idea that Rogers/Bell would be willing to part with the $500m or so required to purchase the other team after getting out of the deal with MLSE seems silly. They joined forces on the MLSE deal in the first place because they didn’t want to go in on a team by themselves.
If the NHL had an owner in place and a plan for an arena, they’d simply go to MLSE and say: “What’s your price on a second team in the GTA?”
The convoluted idea proposed over AIC is silly. Occam’s Razor people.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
The story on fighting started out ok but then it becomes a joke.
Fans in North America never used to have any other hockey to compare to the N.H.L.,…… But with the advent of the international game,
Thank goodness for the Vancouver Olympics. I never knew there was hockey outside Canada prior to that.
The 18,200 fans at Madison Square Garden went wild, but for all we know, Rosehill and Prust went home and cried.
Maybe they got a hotel room after, hugged it out and fell asleep weeping uncontrollably in each others arms.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 9:43 AM EST reply actions
Weren’t you aware that all hockey players are super in touch with their feelings and like to cry uncontrollably about any sort of violence in their sport?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
wow…those are just…wow.
NHL was the only hockey? this guy never heard of the Allen Cup, or Major Junior, or anything else folks in non-NHL towns watch/follow. especially pre-expansion
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College Hockey? Hell, the AHL? SM Liga? DEL? Swedish Elite?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
It’s just stupid to compare international tournament hockey to NHL hockey. It’s the best on best. It’s the cream of the crop. Of course it’s a better product. But it’s also — dare I say it? — a small sample size. It’s only a few games. Is it really possible for a full season of hockey to resemble that, with inevitable wear and tear and myriad injuries as well as a necessary dilution of talent because of 30 teams having to field full rosters? Of course not.
You mean not all teams can run a first line of Crosby, Nash, Iginla?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 13, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Best.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Cut the NHL down to 8-10 teams, and yeah, you could have Olympic-quality competition every night.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Here's what I don't understand
If fighting is becoming so taboo in hockey, because of concussions and the like, why is it acceptable to watch boxing, or MMA? I’m not saying those sports should be banned or anything, but the whole purpose of those sports is to bash your opponent into oblivion. I mean, the guys who fight in hockey do so willingly, and make good money to do it. I just don’t understand where the line is drawn in sports between acceptable fighting and non-acceptable.
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
because the anti-fighting people are largely not real hockey fans, and don’t really follow the teams. That’s why the NHL is adament about keeping it in, because I would bet the majority of fans that follow a team relatively well are not in favour of banning it (phasing it out over time with different rules perhaps, but not an outright ban as non-hockey fans want)
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
We had a pretty big discussion here over the summer with many people coming out in favour, if not of banning fights outright, then at least finding ways to reduce it. I’d like to think that most of the people who come here are “real” hockey fans.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Its not exclusive or monolithic, of course. But I would say I come across WAY more anti-fighting non-hockey fans than anti-fighting hockey fans.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
We should go punch them then!
/justkidding
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I like to see fights in hockey when they are warrented. A dude runs your goalie: fight. A guy takes a dirty shot at one of your stars: fight. You’re playing against a guy named chris neil: you better believe there should be a fight.
The staged shit right after a face-off: BULLSHIT
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I grew up liking it and cheering, but at the same time I don’t watch hockey to see people get their face smashed in. I watch it to see people play hockey.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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I’m more itno them in Pro and Jr. watching a jr fight I realize I’d be rooting for high school kids to do that, and it doesn’t feel as right as two adults goign at it.
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Really?
There’s always been way more of it in Junior.
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Its just weird.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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the whole jr game is changing for me. it’s a great night out, and i like watching the games (good hockey is good hockey), but the hardcore fans ripping on players (on their own team even), that part i can’t get over their age.
i know it’s something they’ll have to deal with if they want to be pros, but a 40 year old chirping a 17 year old just seems silly.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
but a 40 year old chirping a 17 year old just seems silly.
Tell that to the kids’ parents.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think there was consensus to ban fighting outright, but rather to ban the staged fighting by the enforcer types. I think everyone agreed that the Iggy-Vince type of fights were quite acceptable.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Are you saying I’m a liar?!? Do you want to drop the gloves right now?!?
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
are you trying to stage a fight? If so, I’m against this type of thing.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I can rent a barn, if that would be more appropriate.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I concur. That’s certainly what I took out of all those discussions.
We don’t want the Leafs dressing Colton Orr, but we want Army or the Hebrew Hammer playing “sheriff” when it’s warranted.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Also fighters (MMA or boxing) are licensed and must take time off (30 to 45 days) allowing for their brain to recover. Getting checked/fighting and playing the next day just increases risk of negative concussion effects.
That’s why they’ve been bringing in more strict rules around concussions, and I think they can go further on that. It should be the doctors call, not the teams, and the doctor must be free to make the right decision without influence.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I really don’t care how many rules like that they have. They are literally trying to give each other brain damage.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Boxing is basically an organized brain damage competition.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
unlike the bare-knuckled form that is hockey fighting?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
But its just part of the game, where it is literally the SOLE PURPOSE of boxing. I am not defending it in hockey, but I am just flabbergasted at boxing.
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i dunno. in boxing there are at least 1) weight classes 2) a ranking system (you don’t get pros fighting with amateurs) and 3) gloves.
in hockey, you could have zedeno chara beating kyle wellwood to a pulp with his bare fists.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
But you don't.
So it’s not really worth worrying about.
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As a neurology student (are you done your degree?), you feel that gloves are a benefit to boxing? Gloves mean that the opponent takes more blows before going unconscious, once they’ve already sustained one or more concussions.
The other factor is that a boxer can hit much harder and always aim for the jaw, since you aren’t going to break your hand.
Just for the sickness of it (from BMA) :
At least 140 boxers, including two women, have died worldwide due to injuries sustained in training or in bouts since 1990 [written in 2008]
Eighty per cent of professional boxers have serious brain scarring
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
It just bothers me that there is no point to the “sport” besides hurting the other person. In boxing specifically to give brain damage.
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well…i agree that that’s the end result, but the processes is much more nuanced than that.
it’s the sweet science.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s all dumb, but if consenting adults want to do it, I don’t really care.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
I mean I’d rather if not be a part of hockey because of the potential for injury and the fact that it doesn’t accomplish much.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m in the “fuck staged fighting” camp. But I don’t think fighting should be completely eliminated.
For example, what if Lucic ran Reimer like he did Miller. I’m pretty sure everyone here would be screaming for his blood.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
If the NHL handed out suspensions properly Lucic wouldn’t run Miller in the first place.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, there would likely be a congressional investigation.
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"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Yeah and fans frantically calling 9-1-1
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
woah, he theoretically ran Reimer, not Price
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Which Dion Phaneuf or Luke Schenn would have provided.
Buffalo failed because they failed to a) protect their goaltender; and b) let people know they won’t tolerate other teams running their goaltender
Instead, you get then entire whistling past the graveyard because they’re scared of Lucic, and Lindy Ruff holding a press conference that’s the equivalent of Don Corleone wailing about how they massacred Sonny.
Zero respect for the Buffalo org right now, and Ryan Miller would be entirely within his rights to tell them all to go fuck themselves because he’s the toughest guy in that organization.
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There’s only one solution to this, trade them Colton Orr!!1
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
i feel bad for Colton Orr
Then I remember he went from being paid $1M a year to fight, to being paid $1M a year to NOT fight, and then i stop feeling bad for him.
Has anyone checked to make sure he’s not, I dunno, studying to earn his real estate license in the press box?
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by pevans on Dec 13, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To quote someone else’s great line…
“I will personally drive him to the examiner’s office if this is in fact true.”
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Boxing gloves lead to more brain damage because you can punch harder for longer. That being said, I wouldn’t complain if they banned fighting in the NHL.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is that true? show your work.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
good enough?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Boxing gloves protect the boxer’s hands, allowing them to do more damage.
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by theninjagreg on Dec 13, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think the fighting taboo aspect is drummed up by the media. If they did a fan poll I would bet my life savings that there would be huge support for fighting.
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I hear it all the time though from people who arent sports fans. They pick up the media lines and run with them, without ever really watching the game at all.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I hate those people.
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The writer’s own quote says it all…..“The 18,200 fans at Madison Square Garden went wild” NYC is pro hockey fights
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I would say all the original 6 franchises fan bases would be pro fighting. As for fan bases that would be anti-fighting the only one that comes to mind might be Vancouver, because they just prefer the diving and stick work without repercussions.
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by furcifer on Dec 13, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I’m anti-fighting.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I think it may be time to see it go.
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Funny thing is, beyond SBNation boards, twitter and a few other sites, the vast majority of casual fans are still VERY pro-fighting it seems.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I would also say that the vast majority of casual hockey fans are dumb knuckle draggers who yell obscenities at Cindy Criesby, hate pussy Euros, and want to keep fags out of hockey. Basically fuck those people.
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For sure
Just saying that we seem to get a lot of consensus on a lot of shit here (and twitter), it’s sometimes easy to forget that our conclusions are still vastly in the minority of people.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
A few weeks ago someone prefaced the comment that he liked Schenn better than Gunnar with something to the tune of “I know most of you will disagree with me”. I almost burst out laughing.
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So you mean 80% of the people who play NHL 12.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
All through a game I had a guy calling me gay and a homo and whatever, he really thought he was insulting me. I found it hilarious, and just laughed and he got even angrier. It was really funny.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
This makes sense. Most of my anti-fighting sentiment has been the result of exposure to the havoc it can wreak in the lives of enforces, as well as the many quality studies done by people like Nikota and ‘67 Sound to show that it has little impact on the outcomes of the game. Casual fans are likely not familiar with these things so it’s just exciting to watch.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
meh, I’m not a casual fan and I’m in favour of keeping fighting, though I’d like to stop those silly enforcer fights.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
i’m also in favour of more research on the topic, because players should accurately know the risks, but that said they clearly know generally what they are getting themselves into these days.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Again, I think this is the general consensus around here.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
It’ll never go entirely, nor in my opinion should it, but I do feel that the game is moving away from the rough and tumble days of old where teams had designated goon on their team. Do I feel such a change should be mandated? No. I feel it’s best for it all to just run its course. Smart GMs will ice hockey players and dumb GMs will ice goons. Disparities caused by this in the win column will eventually get rid of the hockey goon.
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I don’t know if I would say that it will never go entirely. Its really hard to predict the course a sport will go in 20-30 years. I don’t think we’ll see it gone in the near future (next decade or so), but I doubt it will be around when I’m watching hockey with my grandkids.
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I disagree, I think fighting is ingrained in the sport itself. Eliminating fighting would likely eliminate scrums and an aspect of the physical game. I personally think Skinny is right that the age of the goon may soon be over as a good 4th line is becoming more important. Fighting though is likely here to stay.
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Agree 100% — spontaneous fights between players who are battling are awesome and most often neither guy is actually a good enough fighter to concuss the other. Staged fights between goons are dumb and unnecessary.
Staged fights just aren’t important. There was a time I enjoyed them, then I turned 12. People are starting to see that they are no longer necessary. I was really shocked to see the Leafs benching Orr.
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I don’t know about that. The game has changed so much over the years its hard to know where we’ll be in a few decades.
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More lasers.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
but I doubt it will be around when I’m watching hockey space hockey with mygrandkidsSpace grandkids.
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
ditto
Once in a while I support a good retaliatory, spur of the moment fight where somebody gets his face smashed in as an incentive to never again do whatever dirty move he just did.
But staged fights with heavyweight goons at centre ice after a goal? Pass.
Or the version I hate most of all, when a player gets jumped and forced to fight because he had the audacity of laying out an opposing player with a completely legit, not dirty, not dangerous hit. I hate that tendency so much, and I swear it didn’t used to happen.
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I’ve noticed those fights a lot more often this year. I’m just spit-balling here, but I wonder if that might be a by-product of the increase in concussion-talk by many in the media. I mean with all the suspensions this year, and all the coverage they get, are players more likely to retaliate to big hits now, fearing their team mates might receive a concussion even on legal hits?
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
it just seems fucking ridiculous to me. You write a full article about hockey fights being bad, and that they should be banned, but you willfully ignore other sports where the whole objective is fighting? I mean, it’s not like MMA is some sort of underground sport with a cult following.
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
It is a hockey blog. I think he’s expected to write about hockey.
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by Back In Black on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I understand that, but not even a passing reference? I mean, if you’re bettman, trying to grow the league, how could you not look to the surge in popularity in MMA and say, “fighting draws numbers, it should continue to have a place in hockey”. I’m not saying I’d like to see more fighting in hockey, it’s quite the opposite, but if you’re writing an article about hockey fights, and their place in the game, you need to look at it in all sports for a comparison, instead of saying “fighting causes injuries and other problems and should be banned outright”
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
One vote:
I like fighting, but i hate enforcers that play like 4 minutes a game.
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by Ubiquitous on Dec 13, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Colton Orr hasn’t played 4 minutes this season.
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Totally agree. Staged fights and Hired goons have no place in the game for me. That being said, I love me a good fight
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
The fights I really love are Beauchemin just snapping and ragdolling someone or MacA going after Spacek. I could definitely live without the Colton Orr vs. generic goon crap off the opening faceoff.
exactly. Players fighting when they feel it’s necessary. Not just dropping the gloves after the puck drops.
Orr: I’m not sure how you feel about this, but I think we should drop the gloves if you think that might be appropriate. If we don’t get in our obligatory 5 mins/per game fighting major we might not see another game of ice time
Giles: I concur. A bout of fisticuffs for all!
Orr: indubitably
by JohnerstonRex on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I still miss the Domi vs Probert era
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this. I don’t mind fighting in the right circumstances, but not a guy who’s out there to just fight and be in the box longer than they actually play.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
they should have added a disclaimer
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13. Okay let’s lighten things up a bit. NHL Man of the Year: Tyler Bozak. Don’t know what’s going on with him and Kate Upton, but I’m very impressed.
Bozie, don’t fuck this up. For all of us.
by lucc on Dec 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I only saw the few tweets before that game….did he actually keep tweeting about it?
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I’m going to go out on a limb and say nothing’s going on. He tweeted her. She tweeted back. He tweeted again awkwardly and there was no response. There was an article about it too for some reason.
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As for Upton, and the possibility of a hook-up, Bozak isn’t holding his breath.
"Nothing imminent," he said with a smile.
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We definitely need a WAGs show for the Leafs
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
QUESTION
For the fellow Leaf fans south of the border:
I have Uverse TV currently. A couple of months ago, when I inquired why Fox Sports Detroit doesn’t come in their base U200 package, a customer service rep told me that I would have to order the “Fox Sports” package for an extra $5 a month and this would give me all the regional Fox Sports channels. I didn’t think it was worth it at the time to catch a few extra red wings games until I reliazed the implications. I checke the schedule yesterday and noticed that the Leafs play about 8 times on one of the regional fox sports channels over the next couple of months. This is an extra 8 games that I would catch in HD on TV instead of having to settle for watching online on my lap top.
I called back yesterday and no one seems to know of the package that this rep was recommending to me, and I haven’t been able to find it online. Is there anyone here who has any knowledge of this package from AT&T? I would like to get it as soon as possible (tonight’s game is on FS-CR).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions
Don’t have AT&T, but I have Directv. With DTV, the Fox Sports Package is basically worthless unless you like college football and basketball. Any NHL game televised on Fox Sports will get blocked out if you don’t have the Center Ice Package.
by Evening News Team on Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Really? So it’s not actually possible to get/see all the regional FS channels and the hockey games they contain?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Correct. If you get the Fox Sports package and you don’t have Center Ice, anytime a NHL games comes on, it will be blocked out. Same goes for NBA games as well. That’s the way it is with DTV. Not sure about Uverse, but I assume it’s the same deal.
by Evening News Team on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think it may be different because Uverse doesn’t even offer Center Ice.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
7 players cut from Canada WJC
and none of them were Brad Ross?
That’s a little surprising. I’ve heard he hasn’t shown much so far.
I guess they still want his “agitation/grit”
Zach Phillips being let go is the biggest surprise thus far. Most of the rest were 18 or younger.
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I believe Zach Phillips was who I wanted instead of Biggs. Him or the Pimple.
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Don’t both of them have skating issues?
And didn’t Burke prioritize skating?
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It also helps if you’ve previously saved some one’s life in a dramatic way.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently, but hey, that’s character.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I remember an article with I think Dave Poulin – he really emphasized development over stuff like scoring ie drafting guys with the tools but maybe who hadn’t put it all together. I think that’s the thought with Biggs, they think they can mould him into something new.
yup, it’s just going to take at least 4 years.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Biggs is BIG, which is why he was drafted by Burke.
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Including the “Running Miller and getting away scot free” upgrade package?
OK. I’d take that…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone who runs Miller gets a point in my book.
Is it out of the realm of possibility for Biggs to become a Lucic? I mean, he’s a bull on skates who has adequate but not blazing speed, and he rides shotgun with two significantly better hockey players.
Running Miller tangent:
How the hell did Lindy Ruff not get fined for that bullshit? Or is it okay to call the NHL referees a joke repeatedly and I missed that press release?
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I don’t know, they were a joke though. I wanted Lucic to be suspended at least 5 for that. Intent to injure, no doubt.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Probably because the league knew they fucked up not nailing Lucic and didn’t wanna make themselves look dumber.
So the next time a coach calls the referees a joke, and the NHL fines him, and he asks “How come I’m getting fined and Ruff got to be a childish piece of shit and that was okay?”
That’s a bad precedent to be setting.
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The league offices are in NYC, which means they naturally ignore the existence of the rest of New York state.
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to be fair, pretty much everyone ignores the existence of Buffalo.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
How does Lindy Ruff still have a job?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
& Hasek
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I suspect his very shiny .564 playoff winning percentage.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Do fans like him? Do you guys have any expectations other than making the playoffs every year. I mean if Toronto iced that roster and had the results the Sabres have had we’d be on our 40th coach by now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Not really. Before last year it was all we could really hope for. That, or we could hope that Darcy would steal us all-stars on 2 million dollar contracts and we’d be good for a few years.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
I think they’re hoping for more of a Backes type
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I thought just Phillips did. Puemple I thought just had hte injury problem.
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But it was a hip injury. Hips are kind of important to your skating stride.
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Hips are kind of important
Pretty much this
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Also with WJC coming up
I hope everyone is ready for a huge drop in hockey aesthetics as no-touch icing is used.
This is going to be brutal.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I’m going to have to go hit someone with my car to fulfill my blood-lust and need for pointless broken legs.
Damn it all.
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That poor dead horse.
Why lord, why!!!!!
heh.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I mean seriously, how are we going to meet the requisite number of season-ending injuries without it?
(actually i hate no-touch icing but I’m willing to deal with it for the greater good)
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Less broken legs I assume
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
“The greater good”
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
“His name is Robert Pahlsson”
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Real email exchange with my HR lady who was selling platinum tickets to tonight's game
Her (to whole company): Selling 2 platinum tickets to tonight’s game vs. Hurricanes. First come first serve!
Me: How much are the seats?
Her: approx $250 each
Me: Ah I figured, no thanks.
Her (after 30 minutes of no one biting): How about $200 each?
Me: It’s the Hurricanes. Pass.
Her: …..$150?
Every year without fail, everyone with Leafs tickets vs the Hurricanes sells them/gives them away. She eventually ended up giving them to her daughter and her friend.
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How much are they at face value?
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I dunno. She gave up before it got that far.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
I would happily go to a Canes game, but I don’t have the cash for any platinum tickets…
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Exactly. Last year I went for free people were giving them away so readily.
If I don’t get free tickets I rarely to go Leafs games, unless it’s like a Buffalo/Ottawa game or I get 300 level tickets.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Until I am done residency I can’t see myself buying many Leafs tickets.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I think of it like Costanza thinks about parking spaces & prostitution
Why would I pay, when if I put in a little effort and time, I might get it for free?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck that! I would have bough them at $250. I only get to watch the leafs in person once a year though…(live in Calgary)
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Dec 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
$250 × 2 is expensive
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but platinums usually go for like $300 or $350 a ticket so it’s…well it’s still expensive but not relatively speaking
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
My wallet only speaks in terms of absolutes, not relative $$.
Buy this $50,000 car! Regular $70,000! WHAT SAVINGS
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Only a Sith deals in absolutes
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah just think
you could have bought them for $250 and then turned around and sold them to some sucker for $400! PROFIT!
Oh. Wait….
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
In case anyone want to go out to watch the game and get free grub after the Leafs win
Shoeless Joe’s is hosting another Maple Leafs Appreciation Night this Tuesday, Dec 13 when the Carolina Hurricanes come to town. If the Leafs win, everyone in attendance (from the start of the first period) will get their choice of a free pound of wings or a gourmet burger. If they lose, you get to collectively boo the Hurricanes as you leave with nothing.
With Carolina currently in the depths of the Eastern Conference, this might be a good time to score a free late night snack; even if they did beat the Leafs the last time they played.
You can use the store locator to find the nearest Shoeless Joe’s. Remember you have to be in the building before the puck drops at 7pm EST.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM EST reply actions
There’s a catch. The gift certificates expire before the next game. PPP, leafer1984 and I all got one last time.
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BOOOO.
If you live near a Don Cherry’s they always have 2 for 1 Wings during Leafs games.
I will be destroying two pounds this evening.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
My favourite bar for Leafs games while I was at U of T was Pauper’s at Bathurst/Bloor. 25 cents- wings, $9.99 pitchers.
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
Did they win the last time you guys went? If yes you must go again tonight and wear the same clothes.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah they won. It was Leafs-Rangers.
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I spent way too much time and money there as an undergrad.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
great patio.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
they have one near me but its relatively far and in the cracked out part of town.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Whitby/Oshawa?
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
yes, there is a crack alley right down the street from parliament.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry it’s a great crack alley.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
KIng Edward and Rideau? I heard they play all Leafs games, but yeah I wouldn’t go there either. The place is a stinkhole. The area is cracked out, but doesn’t worry me too much.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
No, it doesn’t worry me, but it is sketchy.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
haha
yeah i never ended up using mine either.
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Right. Meant to mention you.
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How many more losses until #TankNation reforms?
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Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
Tuesday game? Check
Southeast opponent? Check
Long layoff? Check
We’re gonna be down 3-1 after one, calling it now. We will tie it up though, Carolina sucks.
more than all these evil omens
what worries me is Reimer’s mediocre play since returning. This is a game the old Reimer would have been able to steal from us.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not like we played well in front of him. For now, I’ll pull the 3SA card but I do hope he can steal one for us going forward. He made some big saves in NJ to keep us in the game.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Still .930+ at ES. That's why I'm not completely freaking out yet.
He’s allowed a shit ton of shorthanded goals against that have cost us the game.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
So for a few hours yesterday I was obsessed with the idea of an expansion draft. I took a look at the protected lists of the various teams and found that very few actual NHL players were available. Although a few gems were passed on.
In 1999 the Flames left Martin St. Louis unprotected, both Columbus and Minnesota passed on him. He was the best played passed over by far. Second and third would be Alyn McCauley and Bryan Berard who were both left unprotected by the Leafs.
If you were looking for the best player selected in the three expansions drafts between 1998 and 2000 you would have to go with Tomas Voukoun who the Predators selected from the Montreal Canadiens.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST reply actions
And that was before Berard’s eye injury, too.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
Also, holy crap, thank dog that Vokoun wasn’t a Hab.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
They have Theodore for a while there though. But yeah, we should laugh at them.
Also funny is that San Jose gave picks and players to both Columbus and Minnesota to prevent them from drafting Nabokov from them.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Hahah, to be fair, without Nabokov, the Sharks would have been left with… Toskala.
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Steve Sheilds was the goalie they protected….
Ha ha ha on their “available list” he is listed as “John Nabokov” as he briefly changed his name when he first came to North America to make it easier for people to pronounce.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Nabokov was their goalie of the future at that point. And he panned out. Seemed like a decent decision
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah definitely a good idea, just funny that they agreed to it. They got nothing of value in exchange for not drafting a good goalie.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
ohhhhhh…my bad. Misread. Is pretty comical. Carry on
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh boy
reporterchris
It looks like Gustavsson will start for the #leafs tonight. No confirmation yet.
Remember those brief few months where we were getting extraordinary goaltending? I miss those days.
Of course we were near the bottom of the league at the time and didn’t have our own 1st round pick, but STILL.
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Somewhere Damien Cox has smoke coming out of his ears.
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it’d be awesome if Wilson tells one group of reporters one thing, and the other group another, just to troll Cox
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Dec 13, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Man, Wilson could fuck a lot of reporters’ jobs over by just announcing his starting lineup via Twitter.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
I’m assuming they’re actually planning on playing both goalies in the hope that the team will finally see league average goaltending.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
…and with an injured Mike Komisarek laying down across the bottom half of the net (just in case).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Bold Ron Wilson lead-protecting strategy: Play constantly 4v5 but have 2 goalies.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Henny agrees with Siegel.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
It would be weird to start Gus now. He will get one of Friday/Saturday, though.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Oh boy, Buffalo or Vancouver.
Man i miss the start of the year’s schedule.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
We can’t all have the Bruins schedule.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
One of the few things I really really really really really want to happen this year is Boston get fucking blown apart next game because they don’t have Chara.
Just embarrassed.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
It will happen, their Blue Line is really bad when you take Chara and his 25+mins out.
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
They’ll see a huge increase in shots, but will in matter with Thomas in net?
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I’m hoping the answer is yes.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Why couldn’t this have happened during any of the 4 horrible games we’ve had to endure against them so far.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
he’s faced the majority of the tougher teams thus far.
#notaconspiracyjustafact
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Reimer’s only lost 3 in a row. Of course he is the logical choice to start.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I take issue with Mirtle's article
Since that point, they’ve won just six of 16 games, going 6-8-2 despite coming out on the right end of a couple 7-1 routs of their own.
In the 10 losses, the Leafs were outscored 43-16, a sign of how badly their goaltending and defensive play have laboured during a road-heavy stretch.
Um, James, one of those goalies went 5-2 in that stretch with a .922 SV% giving up 3 or more goals only twice.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions
/sits and waits for Mirtle to come out and reveal his true PPP self.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
He put a lot of work into hiding it. Sneaky bugger named his account “James Mirtle.”
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
i wonder if he has an alter ego he uses to troll people.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Skinny.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, you’re no fun. I’m going to go read more on the Higgs Boson.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
that podcast was not as interesting as i had hoped (on the Higg/Quantum Mechanics), plus it had those annoying ‘sci-fi’ sounds every couple minutes.
yeah, I’m just scanning a few people’s notes from the talk and trying to patch over some of the holes in my knowledge of particle theory… of course, that’s like trying to build a roof with wet plaster without a scaffold in place.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
*sorry. thrice.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Do you disagree with the general premise that their overall goaltending was shit? Because a 4.3 GAA over 10 games is pretty shit.
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I’m pretty sure Gus is VRN’s cousin or something
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
no. i just like attacking sacred cows and logical inconsistencies.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I’m just slagging. You are just defending your purchase of a Gus jersey. We have all been there(looks at Nolan jersey) /jk
When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
I’m pretty sure I make up 50% of Tyler Bozak jersey sales.
And I know who the other 50% is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Kate Upton?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Nicely done.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I’m certain she didn’t need to pay but just ask for the jersey off his back.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Tyler Bozak has been fined $2500 by the league for playing without a team jersey. When asked to comment on his behaviour, all he would say was “Worth it.”
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
picked it up off the floor
BCWW
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
actually. i have no jersey (other than an old Gilmour)
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I bought a Kulemin sweater over the summer, this is all my fault.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I was worried my purchase of a Kessel third would completely ruin the man, but fortunately that has not seemed to be the case. at all.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Counter-point – I was going to buy a Kulemin jersey over the summer, but didn’t. This is all my fault!
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Did you also buy a Giroux jersey after he took the scoring lead?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
i’m just not sure it’s fair to make a blanket statement about the goaltending in that stretch.
just like we don’t look at last season and say it was shit from start to finish.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
It is.
So is 1.6 goals for per game. Maybe the offence “dried up”
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
In those 16 games:
6 wins. 28 GF, 11 GA. 4.66 GF/G, 1.83 GA/G.
An indication of just how good the Leafs offense and defence has been when the Leafs are winning. As opposed to the Leafs offense and defence playing poorly when the Leafs are losing – as outlined by the Mritle article. Team game, funny how that works.
In the total 16 game stretch:
44 GF, 2.75 GF/G. 54GA, 3.37 GA/G
In the first 13 games:
44GF, 3.38 GF/G. 39 GA, 3 GA/G
16 Game stretch vs 13 Game Stretch
GF are down by 0.63/G
GA are up by 0.37/G
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Earlier than I expected, didn't think I'd see him again until 2012.
TSNScottyMac
Matthew Lombardi (shoulder) is taking part in morning skate. Still a week or so from returning. #Leafs #NHLHurricanes #NHL
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chose rehab instead, hopefully he doesn’t end up doing more damage by not getting the surgery.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I hope he can stay healthy long enough to trade him for anything. Between his head and now shoulder he is ticking bomb waiting for the LTIR. If he’s ready to come back this time I seriously hope he spends some time with the Marlies on a conditioning stint.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
with his insurance liability doubt we can trade him unless it’s to another big money team that can afford the premiums on the insuarance for his contract.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
So apparently the Kings have asked permission from Calgary to speak to Daryl Sutter.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
If he coaches anything like he GMs this is going to be hysterical to watch.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I assume asking players to play the trap is the equivalent to giving everyone an NMC?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I find it hilarious that they have to “ask permission” to speak to Darryl.
Oh I’m sorry, are his responsibilities of doing dickall for CGY interfering with getting another job?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
He obviously has an NMC.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
fail for nail!
actually they’re not remotely that bad. That honor goes to 1-win-in-9 (against the Leafs, I believe) Hurricanes or perhaps the Islanders or Jackets.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve regressed to 12th in the NHL in points?
WOOHOO
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Last year’s me would be jumping for joy at 12th in the NHL.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
This is what I keep saying. We’re still waaay beyond expectations from the beginning of the year.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
It’s coming in streaks – win streaks, then losing streaks, fucking rollercoaster is taking a toll on my soul.
Also, regardless of how well Kessel plays when he’s not scoring, our offense still lives and dies by the performance of the top line.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
We have still yet to lose more than three consecutive games this season, so that’s been a big plus for this team.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
You realize you just fucking jinxed it right?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
But of course.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel … not scoring
…does not compute…
Thankfully, he has put up points in 23 / 29 GP this year, a 1.24 PPG pace on the season, not gone 2 games in a row without scoring, and but for Giroux would be atop both scoring races.
But he is so streaky!!!
Here’s hoping this year we can put that label to rest — and that the rest of the team could start contributing that consistently! Of course we know that GF is not really the problem here (as Mirtle has so eloquently reminded us)
by GettinGiggy on Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Saying “hate to say I told you so” would be a bold-faced lie. I enjoy being right, even if it’s about something that pains me.
So you made the same prediction that basically all of us here made. Kudos JP, kudos.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I feel you're missing a lot of the humor/sarcasm when I write "regression is nigh" in caps lock.
Seems like these days your dial is always set to ‘maximum snark’.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
by JP Nikota on Dec 13, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My theory is he hates the holiday season, so his pants are even crankier than usual.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
PPP Caricature Series Part 13
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
rawr
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 13, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Woman in a Leafs jersey, just can’t be beat.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Correct
My opinion is that women wearing Leafs jerseys are a-ok. I assumed that most of the members here would share that opinion. Is yours different?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dang
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote 3 replies to your comment above, all came out sounding dirty or sexist… went with a safe option and got a whoosh haha
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
What’s wrong with sounding dirty?
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Considering the fact that I don’t actually know DiaDud… don’t want to offend her or anyone else.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. I was only making a mild joke anyway.
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You can’t even really tell that’s a Leafs jersey. It could just be a dark shirt
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah unfortunately I cropped the original picture down so that her face would be easier to draw (bigger is better). In the photo you could see that it is in fact a Leafs jersey.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
you’ll scare away the 3 remaining women who actually still post here.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Woooooo female representation in this frat house
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, there are female members here? I’ve made a huge mistake….
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Stunning Eyes
Glasses and all.
Piercing thru you !
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Thanks Rob.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 13, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Your Welcome
I guess you & her can BOTH take the compliment considering that its her eyes and you drew it.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
who wants to be the first to add Philip J Kessel to facebook?
You know, I’m actually not surprised his middle initial is J
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
His nickname better be “Fry” or there are zero nerds in the Leafs dressing room…
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
The door to about 7,000 Leafs/Futurama nicknames was just blown wide open.
Eagerly anticipating the assignment of the nicknames “Morbo”, “Kif”, and “Zapp Branigan”
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
Oh my, yes.
Do the Bender, do the Bender.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Luke Schenn could also be Morbo.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Cliff Fletcher is obviously Professor Farnsworth.
I think Dion would make a good Zapp Brannigan actually.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Lupul should be Zapp Branigan
Lupul should be Zapp Branigan " >I’m going to link this picture as it’s kind of NSFW in the least way possible
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
the look on his face there is hilarious.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Awwwww yeaaaaaaaaaah
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, that is perfect. That leaves Bozak as Kif, thus drawing the parallel between Amy and Kate Upton.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Kif = Gus
Skinny and fragile. Good looking girlfriend
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Why not Zigomanisberg?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Now It’s Zigo’s time to shine! Awww.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
And my middle name is…
Homer JAY Simpson!
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Miettinen to WPG
erlendssontrib
Sounds like Winnipeg claimed Miettinen off waivers #tblightning
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
He had just signed a 2-year, $3M/year deal with a full NMC with TB yesterday.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
So, now he can’t be moved out of Winnipeg?
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
pretty sure a NMC superseeds a NTC, so he has a NTC in his NMC. No movement means he can’t be sent down or traded.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not going anywhere unless he wants to. Which he probably would.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
You can have at least a partial NTC with an NMC (think Komi)
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
You can have whatever you want, or at least as creative as your agent can get when they come up with these things.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I mean anytime you can prevent the 26th placed team from signing a 4th liner with an NMC, you gotta do it.
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How else will they convince players to come to Winnipeg.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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I also write things about stuff over at the Leafs Nation
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly I feel like waiver claim grabs are 33% to get a useful player, 33% spite and 33% fan entertainment.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Remember STL last year? Fucking got every attempt to sign a player sniped away from them.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Pure comedy
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure its 3M/year not 3M total?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’m not sure about anything.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I would imagine its 3 total.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
It is I just checked.
+500k signing bonus. Not sure who pays that.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Jets-claim-Antti-Miettinen-off-waivers-135519973.html
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I would guess Wpg but not sure.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
It’s not re-entry so I imagine Winnipeg is footing the entire bill
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Man, that is one vicious divisional rivalry.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well, as TBL is our new division rival next year, we should be glad they didn’t just get better for next year (it was a 2 year deal)
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad I was looking forward to kessel winning the scoring title against a healthy giroux (and crosby).
Now would be a great time for Kessel to take make some distance there.
Also, you know, help win some Leafs games.
At the end of the day I don’t really give a shit about the individual player awards.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Man it would shut up so, so many people if Kessel won an award at the end of this year.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Normally I dont care about individual awards, but yeah, shutting up the Kessel haters or at least being able to throw that in their faces would be nice.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel only won it because Crosby was injured and Ovechkin stopped taking steroids.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck. Him and Kessel were propping up my fantasy team.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I too had Giroux and was dominating.
This will deal a blow. Still worth having in a keeper league though.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Giroux out ~ Dang It !
Kessel should pass Giroux now for a little bit. (noticed I said “now for a little bit.” not expecting it long term but its anyones game scoring title. )
My belief is individual records and feats are cool but What good is it if you win the scoring title and get bounced the first or second round of the playoffs.
I also think that Simmonds owes Giroux a nice big fat juicy Kobe Steak Dinner !
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
I WOULD like to see GIROUX out the rest of the season so FLYERS fans can feel what pens fans felt with CINDY out
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
Feel What ?
I wouldnt wish harm on Giroux or others. Even Crosby who I hate I dont wish harm or long term Concussion injuries.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Out of curiosity do you hate Crosby as a divisional rival’s star or for some other reason?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Out of Curiosity ~ I hate Crosby 2 both reasons
1. Divisional Rivalry
2. Crybaby
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
It is such nonsense. He really isn’t a cry baby.
He is also probably the most talented player in the league.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
the crybaby thing came about i his rookie year, but what 18 year old isn’t a crybaby when you’re looking at it a decade or more later?
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
I was a huge crybaby when I was 18. Nothing was ever my fault and everyone was out to get me.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Note: they still are.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 13, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
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I never said he aint the most talented player in the league.
And stating that he is a crybaby ~ is a matter of opinion
This video is why I feel he is a Crybaby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrH9H3lZlHQ
Any other player and that would be a 2 min goalie interference or tripping call but since its “Cindy Crybaby” # 87 – its Crosby is calling Biron a diver and crying to the refs and hiding behind the refs from getting punched out.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
How old was he in that game? Gretzky was a “crybaby” in his early years in the league too. Its because they both entered the league so young that they were immature.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
First Impressions last.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
This boys and girls is the bias known as “anchoring” in action.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
people do grow up, i mean if i kept my first impression of my kid in my mind he’d be nothing but a gooey ball of screaming.
3 years latter he’s a lot less gooey
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
I was a lazy asshole at 18. Forget playing in the NHL. The world owed me bigtime for my contribution of nothing
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
and using names like Cindy doesn’t make you clever. It makes you look like a childish moron
by ShahofToronto on Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
My best guess is #1 leads to #2.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
If a player slew footed Reimer behind your goal – would you say that was worthy of getting an arse whooping ?
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
I definitely don’t like that play.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t consider a guy a crybaby because he was whiny at 18 (or was that at 19?)
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
He never advocated or Cried about Concussions in the league till he got one. Next thing you know he is leading the crusade.
IMHO ~ He is still a whiney Crybaby. and thats an Opinion. You can agree to disagree with me.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Wait so he learned that there was a big problem from personal experience and he advocates to fix it and that makes him whiny? I wish all players advocated change.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
look at those cancer survivors going on about how its such a big deal. PSHAH, they’re only doing it because it affected them profoundly and altered their perspective on a major issue.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
REC’D!
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Admittedly i didn’t change my opinion for about two years after he stopped the excessive whining so there is a lag time for every one. Some apparently longer than others.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
This is such a stupid comment.
Those ladies who do the 5K walks after surviving breast cancer? Fuck them for not walking in them when they were healthy.
Brian Burke supports LGBT after his son came out? WHY NOT EARLIER BRIAN?
People who buy dog food after getting a dog? What stopped you from buying it before hand?
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Those guys who buy dog food only after getting a dog are scum.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I stand by my statement.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I got a whole garage full of dog food; just waiting for a new puppy to come along.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
You’re good people.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
~
Well its not Stupid, But if you disagree with my Opinion or comment then thats fine.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
now now now, we can’t say the comment is officially stupid until we subject it to some IQ tests.
Now: Comment, what is 2+2?
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
= 4
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
thats you answering not your comment, don’t help it cheat.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
Sawwey !
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Rob man. You’re alright. But the “that’s my opinion” shtick has to stop at some point.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
“That’s, like, your opinion, man.” is a back-pocket defense for indefensible opinions. Opinions that aren’t grounded in anything sensible are, objectively, stupid.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
Love that movie
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
You smoke dope?
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
NO
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
No one in the military smokes dope.
/offseasonmeme’d.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Please. Dont start things. Because it will only get me in trouble.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Well the victim card has to come out at some point..
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
we’ll have to agree to disagree
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Obligitory
I don’t agree to that
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
:)
Thanks for the compliment and thanks for the suggestion but I have my views and like most people I will stick by it.
I know that Crosby is beloved in Ontario and Quebec area of Canada and that he is beloved as Canada’s newest NHL Born and Raised Superstar and that allot of Maple Leaf fans wish that he was on their Maple Leaf team and that I am different from others but, Thats just it, I am different. Not that I am right or wrong or that others are right or wrong. Just different in opinion.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
It’s my opinion that Claude Giroux is a vampire. That’s just my opinion.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Think I saw that on a message board somewhere. Its definitely out there
by ShahofToronto on Dec 13, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno, I think we should agree to disagree here, and change the subject.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve heard whispers. Rob will just have to agree to disagree.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
He is actually not all that loved in Ontario. Regardless we were discussing you referring to his recent campaigning against concussions as whining. It was a pretty silly statement.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB good hockey player in the NFL NHL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs bring awareness to concussions because he got one, thats Childesh childish ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian bring light to a personal issue?
-am i doing this right?
by l3ojangles on Dec 13, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your Comparing apples to oranges.
and I am not going to start any religious thing ~ I will stick to hockey.
Ok SO I am not liked by my comment and allot of people dont agree with me. I get it. Lets agree to disagree and Move along.
Maple Leafs should beat Carolina tonight. Lets go back to that discussion
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
No, he’s not. You’re criticizing Crosby for taking a personal stance on something that he maybe didn’t up until a certain point, and at the same time asking people not to criticize Tim Tebow for doing essentially the same thing.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 13, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
What he is calling stupid is the calling:
Someone changing their opinion on something after a life changing experience (like a concussion) is whining.
I’d have to agree with Skinny. How many people become anti-drunk driver advocates after they lose a child to a drunk driver? Its not whining, its becoming aware of a situation after personal exposure.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
So you’ve never had a single life experience change your viewpoint about anything?
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
LOL
Yes but I dont want to comment on it because I dont want to be told that I am Preaching the Bible again.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
So you’re just a hypocrite.
Got it.
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by clrkaitken on Dec 13, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But see that is just it. Just like you had a religious awakening he had a serious injury which changed his viewpoint on the world. He doesn’t want others to go through the same thing so he is campaigning for change. That is not whining.
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It’s a pretty apt analogy actually.
So at this point if Rob maintains that Crosby is a crybaby for preaching concussion awareness he would also be criticizing his own born-again values.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hate the nickname -Cindy Crybaby.
Also, that play would make me think he’s a cheeky little fucker as opposed to a crybaby
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny because women are inferior to men and giant crybabies and whatever.
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Also their brains are half the size of men. And that’s a FACT.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just Science.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
Women’s brains are, in fact, smaller on average (~90%) but its probably justproportional to size differences.
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See? Science.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My wife would say it’s because their brains are more efficient, but she doesn’t have the science to prove it. So I tell her in as many words possible that she’s crazy.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
You must have a very comfy couch.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
It’s OK. But I also have the benefit of being a very warm body that is in demand all winter long.
(It was also a joke about her using few words to make a point while I use too many to just call her crazy, providing evidence that my brain is less efficient. But whatever. I’m not funny.)
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Sidenote: I love petit women. Love them.
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
So do I love petite women
Wife is 5’1" and 125 Lbs With an Hourglass figure.
From the Neck up she looks like Eva Longoria
From the Neck down she looks like J-Lo
and the funny thing is
SHE MARRIED ME !!!!
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hahahah just watched a whole show about that.
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Sedin Sisters!
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Yeah ~ I like that nickname. Makes me think of the Olsen Sisters.
Which one is the one who shoves a finger down their throat to throw up all the time?
Mary Kate or Henrik ?
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
oh thanks ! where did you get your PHD ?
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
i got mine out of a claw machine…it was either that or a lobster harmonica
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Dude ~ Lobster harmonica’s ROCK !
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Oh I don’t have a medical degree.
It’s just my opinion and I’m entitled to never change it.
Looks like you are now labelled retarded forever!
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Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
by clrkaitken on Dec 13, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
anyhoo.
Time to go make some money.
May Kessel have a great Game – You should beat the Hurricans.
TTFN
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More like the Hurrican’ts amiright?!?!?1
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by SkinnyFish on Dec 13, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hopefully their offense won’t Staal
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if MacArthur fights Larose again, Chad will be Pitkanen up his teeth
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
He’ll try to fight Spacek first but he’ll just Faulk over and play dead.
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and for that bit of acting people will say he Brent over to take a Bow,man.
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Now you’re just Joslin your way in for laughs.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Thats fine. Not everyone likes everyone in this world.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld Episode with Elaine Not liking the movie “The English Patient”
LOL
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Random side note
We are no longer supposed to use retarded.
Also I rec’d that.
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by BCapp on Dec 13, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wait here, or in general?
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In medicine.
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Probably on here and in general as well.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve considered bringing it up, but TBH didn’t want to cause an argument. But now that it has been brought up with all of our defending LGBT rights and stopping people from saying discriminatory things against LGBT people, I think it would probably be appropriate to try to lose the “retarded” jokes.
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I’m with you
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by WendelMadeMe on Dec 13, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
with you, now i see, keeping everything inside
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
To quote the venerable Michael Scott
You don’t call somebody who’s actuall retarded a retard. You call your friend a retard when they’re acting retarded
Or something like that.
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Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
The same could be said for calling something “gay” though.
The idea is that we shouldn’t be using retarded in a negative connotation.
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Yeah, I probably should have used a different term.
Next time I’ll try and work in a “The Hangover” reference.
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Right and I think this is where the whole “we all say shit like this with out friends” meets up with “this is a blog that has lots of diverse people on it.”
A lot of us give each other the benefit of the doubt because we “know” each other but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t make other members uncomfortable.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well put.
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yup, which is why we go with the “friendly reminder” to first time offenders, an amazing amount of people have taken that the wrong way
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I have seen the friendly reminders dropped a fair bit recently and I can only remember one time it was taken badly.
Every other time it was something like, “Oh shit sorry”
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just a friendly reminder, you’re an internet tough guy.
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Friend of mine used the term “bastardizing” around me recently.
I told him I took that personally, and he should smarten the fuck up, or I’d kick his Nancy Boy ass.
He looked confused.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 13, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Is there an origin to that word besides just referring to children of unwed parents?
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z
it pretty much means to declare something illegitimate
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sorry clicked sumit too soon
but the origins all reference children so, probably not
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Isn’t Michael Scott a fictional character who is supposed to be stupid
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let’s get it started in here
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
TRUE STORY
Back when I was in gr. 12 we had a Special Olympics day where all the special needs kids from our school and neighbouring schools had a day of outdoor games out on the football field. Potato sack races, 3-legged races, pie-throwing, dunk tank, all that stuff. Of course some students volunteered to handle the music, and they decided it would be a good idea to play that song… the original unedited version. I went over and started unplugging all their shit and they got suspended shortly thereafter.
Man, I was hoping it was just going to be a nice story, without the sour ending. That’s just shitty
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I have been called out here for using the term “retarded” in conversation. It wasn’t even in reference to a person, but a penalty that was taken. I think I said “Kaberle took a retarded penalty” and was asked to not do it again. And haven’t since. It’s a work in progress but I agree its something that can be worked on
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
It took a lot longer to get retarded out of my vocab (and I am probably not perfect) than it did to drop calling things “gay” (I was able to do that in 2-3 months).
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Oh for sure. I don’t really think anybody expects an overnight change in any aspect, I’m still terrible for thinking things, it’s just my thought to typing filter and my thought to speech filter works a little better now
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
just replace both of them with, stupid, dumb, ridiculous ( given the context) weird, messed,
it’s easier then you’d think.
however, don’t ask me to not curse. my coworkers and I curse like sailors in regular everyday communication, even when talking to clients. it’s fun.
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Oh I did drop it. Just took a while.
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once i found out one of my good friends came out and my best friends stepbrother has downs syndrome, it was pretty easy to cut those words out.
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It probably sounds funny but I dropped gay when I started working at Indigo and made a lot of gay friends. Just didn’t have much personal exposure to LGBT people before and wasn’t all that motivated.
Dropping retarded was kind of a logical follow up to that. Maybe it was harder because I didn’t have the same natural motivation (personal exposure).
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I think he is gone.
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Uh, most of those have the same rough meaning as retarded.
Idiot was used in psychology to describe someone with “profound mental retardation”.
Moron came out of the eugenics movement to describe retarded people as well.
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Best one is “lame”. Or when you call someone a “downer”. and by best I mean things people think are innocuous that really are not.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ok ok. What we need is a list of PP PreaPProved insult terms.
1. Sens fan.
2. Habs fan.
3. I’m drawin’ a blank here.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 13, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I thought we weren’t allowed to call people … oh, I see what you did there. ;-)
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
For the older folks
How about hoser?
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 13, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
hose head.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Idiot and moron don’t offend people unless you’re using it to directly describe people.
my favourite word for stupid people is calling them invalids.
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I go with: Sens fans.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
trogledytes as Bobby the Brain Heenan used to say
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I still call things gay, you know, like the gay bookstore. Literally, it’s a book store for members of the gay community. So I haven’t eliminated that from my vocab, as I also call parts of Toronto “gay town”. Of course, people who know me know its not a negative thing, as I know lots of people in the gay community in Toronto through a relative of mine.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I should have specified. I dropped using “gay” to basically call things stupid or silly. I would still call the pride library on campus the gay library. That is just what it is.
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Kardashian?
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by clrkaitken on Dec 13, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t like the negative association that goes with the term “politically correct”. It’s about treating people as equals and with dignity.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like the assertion that anything done politically is “correct”
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Someone’s on fire today
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think it is that people just feels it goes to far very often.
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FUCK YOU theCeej Ben Schnell fair_n_hite_451!
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/me runs away giggling
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
It’s too funny that this is catching on.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Often developmentally delayed. It annoys me because you can have trauma as the cause and then its not a developmental problem. But that is a whole other ball park.
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There is just so many wrong things going on here right now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I was saying its a terrible nickname. It is sexist and implies that the Sedin’s are feminine because they are “soft”
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all the girls i know have nice soft skin.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
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That’s your opinion!
I kid, I kid…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
The Phil Kessel hat trick:
1 goals
1 assists
1awkward interview
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Holy crap, Hurricanes roster is awful
Jiri Tlusty – Eric Staal – Patrick Dwyer
Alexei Ponikarovsky – Jussi Jokinen – Tuomo Ruutu
Andreas Nodl – Brandon Sutter – Chad LaRose
Drayson Bowman – Tim Brent – Anthony Stewart
Tim Gleason – Jamie McBain
Jaroslav Spacek – Justin Faulk
Bryan Allen – Derek Joslin
Cam Ward
Look at that godamn top line. This is going to suck when they blow the Leafs away tonight.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Stempniak Wallin Primeau was the best
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
czercawski wilm ondrus !
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That never happened man, never happened.
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
NEWBURY TLUSTY SUGLABOV !!
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I hope these rafters can hold my weight, thanks for the memories.
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
MIKAEL TELLQVIST JS AUBINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnn
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
* chokes *
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
VESSSSAAAAA TOSSSSSSSKA-LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and Andrew Raycroft
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Flatline
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mats…. Sundin….
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
* springs out of hospital bed *
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Their Top pairing is even worse
Tim Gleason – Jamie McBain
Cmon. CMON.
They’ve got Ryan Murphy coming eventually, but wow that is a horrendous blueline.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Its inexperienced but not that bad. McBain and Faulk are both supposed to be pretty good.
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I guess we’ll see tonight.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
McBain rules.

McBain. Skinner.
They need one more SImpsons character on their team.
by spoonie on Dec 13, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nahasapeenapedalahn would be awesome
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Andreas Nodl sounds like a cartoon character’s name
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Poor Jeff Skinner. He’s going to be their “centrepiece” going forward….the centrepiece for what? a garbage team?
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
2nd and third line are both solid 3rd lines… D isn’t bad.
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D isn’t bad
Are you kidding me?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
are you kidding him? That D is SO good Tomas Kaberle couldn’t crack it
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think McBain and Faulk look like they have good futures. Gleason and Allen are solid but nothing special defenders (Gleason may even be a tad better than that). Spacek isn’t a bad #4 defender. I don’t know much about Joslin. It is definitely not good, but I don’t think its terrible. Add Pitkanen back in and I think it’d probably be even average.
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Yes sir. I am just saying that defense isn’t terrible.
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Completely disagree.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I’m buying into to much of hte hype on Faulk and previous hype on McBain. I like Gleason and think both Allen and Spacek are okay.
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I actually kinda like Allen TBH but I can’t figure out why he’s a 3rd liner.
If we needed depth D at the deadline I’d be interested in his expiring contract.
That being said, he’s a depth D.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
*3rd liner = 3rd pairing
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
They have no studs there (I am a big Pitkanen fan so they’ll have him when he comes back), but I don’t think its horrible. They have a couple solid guys and a couple prospects.
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Contracts aside – would you replace anyone in the Leafs D with anyone on Carolina’s? Maybe Faulk for Franson? Komi for Gleason? Their best defenders are the same level as our worst – maybe better at actual D but not overall players.
Komi for any of ’em but particularly Gleason. I would take Pitkanen over probably everyone but Phaneuf.
I don’t have personal experience watching the guy, but I’ve heard great things about Faulk and McBain.
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Pitkanen over Gunnarsson!???!?!?!
Sacred Bleu!!
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pitkanen is a league leader in minutes played over the last few years and puts up a lot of offense. He is like a more offensively gifted Beauchemin.
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From 2007-2008-2010-2011
Pitkanen is 7th in TOI/GP averaging 25:22. He is behind (in order) only:
Bouwemeester
Keith
Boyle
Chara
Phaneuf
Pronger
As well he is 25th in points by a Dman in that period. He is a very good defender and extremely underrated.
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This summer everyone was talking about Ehrhoff, Wizniewski, Kaberle, and Bieksa, but I thought Pitkanen was the best of the bunch (all 5 were UFA’s).
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interesting
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe its playing in a pretty small market, behind Ward and Staal, or maybe its that he bumped around a lot earlier in his career; but I think he is really under appreciated.
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Spacek is no good. Seriously, not anymore. He’s lost it. Take it from a guy who watches RDS when there is nothing else on.
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Side note: I love poutine man. Love it
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
High on my list of things to do as soon as I get back to Toronto is a visit to Poutini’s on Queen St West
by ShahofToronto on Dec 13, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thats the other one!
I could only remember smokes for the longest time.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
Personally I like Poutinis a lot more but Smokes would hit the spot right now as well
by ShahofToronto on Dec 13, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
it’s only real poutine with the cheese curds. Other kinds of cheese are unacceptable.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Get that shredded mozza crap outta here
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
If ever in MTL check out Le Banquise (spelling?)
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
heading back to Canada this weekend for xmas, can’t wait to eat some poutine.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 13, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
The top line is BS.
The 2nd and 3rd lines are average.
D is garbage
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-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Jaroslav’s many chins disagree with you!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Those things block shots and make outlet passes
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
only 1 does
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I would probably take just about any other eastern team’s second line before that one.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I called it a solid 3rd line.
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as long as we agree its a crappy, crappy second line.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
It’ll Staal be okay guys. Tlusty is a Jokinen and is only known for flashing his Nodl.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Dec 13, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
/slow clap
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Blow you away?
Debbie Downer ?
How about thinking positive that the Maple Leafs will beat the Hurricanes
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Jokes?
I get jokes.
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by SkinnyFish on Dec 13, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like the MGK reunion didn't go well
TSNScottyMac
#Leafs lines vs #NHLHurricanes: Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, MacArthur-Connolly-Armstrong, Frattin-Grabovski-Kulemin, Crabb-Steckel-Dupuis
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That or its because Tim Connolly is pretty good at hockey.
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"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
When he’s not broken
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap, our 4th line is actually a 4th line!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Steckel will stop taking the draws for a few weeks until his hand heals.
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Is his hand going to heal? Hasn’t it been pretty mangled for a while now?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
He has no finger nail on it!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
To replace an entire nail takes a LONG time. It can be from months to over a year I believe.
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Mine has been gone for just over 2 years now and is just started to grow back and it isn’t growing normally. Doc says it probably won’t ever look normal again
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I should have specified, that that is from when it starts growing.
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ive lost my right big toe nail about 4 times, it grew back in about 5-7 months each time
looks pretty normal though
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
If I may ask, how did you do that? I often wonder about this stuff cause it happened to my sister as well (Her big toenail) and I’m trying to figure out the difference
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
once got my foot run over by a car, another time dropped a 45lbs dumbell on it, then i took a puck off the foot while playing boot hockey and the final time was from falling down some stairs
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Did you put any creams or anything else on it to heal? Clean it often? Keep a bandage on it? Just ignore it?
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you gotta show that toe who is top dog
ARF ARF
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
…doing it doggy style
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
the first time i took all the care of it, polysporin, bandages, etc, the next time was a little more lax, then a little more lax, and the last time i said “ah fuck it” and just changed my socks twice a day
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
twice more than usual?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 13, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Lost my big toe nail and it grew back after about a year. Thing I remember most is how sensitive the nail bed was. Kicking anything was out of the question.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 13, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
As a person with this same condition I will say this, when it first happened, I freaked out whenever anything touched the area the nail used to cover. I couldn’t imagine try to actually use my hand for something like faceoffs, where chances are good I may catch a stick in the hand
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I really am not sure. But apparently he has been below 50% since the injury. There just is no reason to put him in the dot if thats the case.
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Even below 50% he may still be the best faceoff man on the Leafs
Everyone else has been AWFUL this year
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I just checked. All 4 of our top C’s are basically sitting at 50-ish percent
Steckel 57%
Bozak 49.6%
Connolly 49.4%
Grabbo 49.2%
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Wooo I was technically correct
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Obligatory
The best kind of correct.
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Oops
That should have said “the other 3 are at 50ish%”. Obviously Steckel is well ahead of that.
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Other weird thing
Colborne took less than 40 FO. They kept him out of the dot.
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Not weird at all
He was like 1 for 11 that one game.
He got his ass handed to him.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
If that is the case he was probably above 50% outside of that game.
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Nevermind just double checked
He won 23 in 60. If we drop that game he would have had 22 in 49. Still below 50%
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Ya on the faceoff dot he was pretty much the suckiest suck that ever sucked
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 13, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I didn’t pay all that much attention. I do remember commenting that Stecekl was taking the draws for him than shifting back to the wing, but he did it for so many people I didn’t pay much more attention than that.
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faceoffs is weakly-to-moderately correlated with wins, regardless of what people say about how many points a faceoff win is worth…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never cared about faceoff wins. I think their importance is based mostly on confirmation bias after seeing a quick goal from the point off a faceoff.
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I dunno. It’s weird to me that there’s such an emphasis on puck possession, but that getting possession off the start of play isn’t a significant advantage. Obviously it’s got to be paired with breakout (or in-zone) abilities, but…
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How well does PK FOW% correlate with PK%? Same with PP?
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Winning faceoffs helps, but not very much.
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All the little things that help you win games
to quote an old cliche
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Its ~.03 less net goals if you win a faceoff, but you’re also about 30% less likely to be scored on compared to a faceoff loss so you can read it either way.
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Happened to stumble upon this old piece:
http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=239
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like I said: it’s moderately correlated with wins. where and how it becomes important is up for interpretation/bias, but it’s not as though it doesn’t matter.
unless there’s some other intervening factor between FOW and Wins (i.e., better players win more draws?).
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
STRAWMANS!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 13, 2011 2:48 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
So I finally did it
I started a blog: Bleeding Blue and White
Here is my first post analyzing if PK% is a good measure of a team’s “defensive play”.
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Shouldn’t you be studying?
I ask because I should be too.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Surprisingly no
I had an exam yesterday (think it went well). The rest of my exams aren’t until January.
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january exams? weird, although that may be the norm in the US.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
In other words a team’s defensive game at ES is barely (or potentially not at all) related to their ability to kill a penalty. This may seem counter intuitive, but it suggests that killing penalties is a specific skill.
I wouldn’t say counter-intuitive. Even strength play is much different from Short-handed play for a variety of reasons.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
It also suggests that killing penalties is very tough.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say so.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
PK play is certainly very different from ES play. I would point to 3 specific skills that play a bigger role on the PK (of course they also apply to ES, but not as much):
1) Positioning: you can’t cheat on the power play. Have to stay in the shooting lanes and get your stick in the passing lanes.
2) Puck pursuit: have to pressure the puck carrier at all times. This has been a problem for the leafs. Too many times I’ve seen them standing around like pylons waiting for the play to develop.
3) Cleaning up on the boards: specifically the half-boards. We’re not very good at getting the puck passed the blue line once we get it close. Dare I say TO THE LINE BUT NOT OUT?
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
Re:3) At ES the Leafs have been very effective in using their quick-puck moving defensemen to advance the puck quickly, I suspect this is the reason that Lile and even Gardiner have seen some PK time.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 13, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Re: (2
The Leafs have a very passive PK. They’ve tried to increase the puck pursuit recently but man… The Pens seem to chase the hell outta the puck carrier on the PK. Seems to work.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yeah. That’s my point. There’s a way to pursue the puck without giving up the shot or the seam pass. The Leafs haven’t figure that out yet.
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
I was furthering the point, perhaps poorly
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you could include tone and body language in your next comment – shhesh!
But yeah – more active puck pursuit on the PK. Use 4 or 5 different PK units if you’re worried about guys burning out.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'll just leave this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvtCjynTr4
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Well done
Interesting first post. Really illustrates that the “special” in special teams is a pretty accurate adjective.
Here’s to many more of your posts showing up in future news feeds!
by stevesmith19 on Dec 13, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I've been saying this
for most of the year. ES GA is more important in the long haul than SH GA.
I’m not worried about our PK particularly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
For a bubble team, it can easily be the difference between 8th and 9th. It shouldn’t be this bad yet again.
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and why not?
because frankly Reimer’s goaltending has been horrid, Steckel’s got a broken finger, and we have no true shut down D men.
We’re also amazingly young as a team still… why do people forget this?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
when Dupuis
is doing the best work of our PK forwards, and everyone wants to ditch him from the team I wonder if people really get what is good and bad about our PK.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing like having a PK specialist who contributes nothing offensively. Let’s call up that Wallin and Sjostrom….actually, they were better offensively.
by Goosemonster on Dec 13, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
there’s a difference between youth and experience. we have a lot of young players who have been around for long enough that it’s no longer necessarily a viable excuse.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 13, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
really
I don’t think Reimer is our worst goalie despite his atrocious PK SV%… do you?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
No. But I’m suprised you’re not particularly worried about the Leafs PK.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think he’s making the point that Reimer’s PK SV% will increase in the near future, thereby seemingly solving the Leafs’ PK woes.
by stevesmith19 on Dec 13, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I figured. There’s more to the ailing PK than Reimer’s sv %
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 13, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ok someone may have already done this
but I’m calling out Mirtle and JP) for a misleading chart.
Here is the season broken down by 3 game sections as in the chart, from the BEGNINING:
GP – Pts – Pace /82
3 – 6 – 164
6 – 9 – 123
9 – 13 – 118
12 – 17 – 116
15 – 19 – 104
18 – 22 – 100
21- 24 – 94
24 – 30 – 103
27 – 32 – 97
30 – ? – ?
So yeah… to me it looks like we’ve levelled off and oscillated the past 15 gp or so, although right now 28 and 29 were both losses, so we’ve dipped again. Either way, the sky is falling mentality is bogus.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Same thing holds true if you recalculate based on a win tonight. Puts up back up to a 99 point pace – and we wouldn’t be worried about a 9th overall finish … based on 1 game?
I think this is a great illustration of 3SA.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 13, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest flaw in the chart is that the last line should not be included.
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lol
thank you for pointing out that it doesn’t fit in the chart.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Clarification
Mirtle’s chart, i mean. Burtch’s chart uses a proper, non-arbitrary cutoffs.
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I have to ask, Why that pic of Ennis? Makes me laugh everytime
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Flyers’ fans are silly
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 13, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Long story (in terms of internet comments)
Chemmy didn’t like me not having a profile picture, changed it to the “no goal” picture.
As revenge, i changed my profile picture to Ryan Miller’s lopsided face.
I couldn’t look at it anymore because of the creepy factor so i changed it to Tyler Ennis…
I then noticed he looked a lot like me, so i left it.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Last 11 Games, 82 game point pace
95
98
94
97
100
103
98
95
97
97
93
7-10th place bubble team alright.
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It goes down
it goes back up… they’re obviously slumping right now, but could easily return to 98-100 pt form soon… particularly with time to work on things in practice and a home stretch of games.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
If you look at Boston's
point pace early on it was crap, but nobody would now assume they were destined for a low finish.
Ironically people now assume 14-0-1 is their normal, which is just as absurd.
They’re going to crap the bed a bit soon, as will NYR and MIN.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I hope when Boston shits the bed it’s diarrhetic.
by stevesmith19 on Dec 13, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Haha I was trying to use diarrhea as an adjective. I’m not proud to say that I googled diarrhetic to see if it was legit. It looked like it could work.
by stevesmith19 on Dec 13, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
WE MUST ALERT THE ELDERS!!!
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
Obligatory youtube link
Nothing is over: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlB8D3dGnzA
More true this season than last.
by stevesmith19 on Dec 13, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
GO HERE NOW
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/12/13/2633947/the-toronto-maple-leafs-vs-the-carolina-sucks
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/12/13/2633947/the-toronto-maple-leafs-vs-the-carolina-sucks
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/12/13/2633947/the-toronto-maple-leafs-vs-the-carolina-sucks
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