Bill Watters: There's a Reason He's Unemployed
by Chemmy on Dec 15, 2011 5:00 AM EST
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PrintOn XM radio last night Bill Watters claimed that Jim Rutherford and Brian Burke had a deal in place involving Eric Staal that was on hold because of Brian Burke's roster freeze. Bill Watters went on to claim that the deal would be completed after the roster freeze was lifted.
This is nonsensical for about twelve reasons, but most notably if Brian Burke has a roster freeze for the holidays he isn't talking about trading players. No NHL GM is going to agree to a trade and then keep playing the guys he moved for weeks; it's poor risk management. If Eric Staal gets hurt, despite it being a short term effect on the deal, the trade is likely off.
Bob McKenzie did what an actual media member with access should do and went to the source. He asked Jim Rutherford about a potential Eric Staal trade:
"I have no interest whatsoever in trading Eric Staal or Cam Ward. That's not going to happen." -- Jim Rutherford
Nice try Billo. It seems when it comes to rumors, much like Eklund or Incarcerated Bob, Bill Watters is a first of April credibility kind of guy.
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24/7 NYR/PHI was awesome
Won’t give it away for those who didn’t see it, but Bryzgalov is going to be a TV sensation
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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aw man they’re not replaying it today.
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It makes me sad that there will never be a Leafs one.
Burke has no interest in it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
Same here, the whole time I was watching I was just wishing we could see a Leafs one.
But really, think about how much of a shitstorm it would cause in the media for them to be able to see Wilson’s coaching methods behind the scenes. I think it’d be extremely difficult for the team to stay focused throughout the filming.
Cant beleive i forgot it was on, made a mental note to watch last night at around 8 then totally spaced on it. HBO on demand will probably have it, no?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
for sure. they had last year’s up basically all year. i never did watch the last episode.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
the actual winter classic episode was my least favourite of the bunch
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best part of 24/7’s sof ar. Leafs embarass Washington and NYR at the beginning of each one
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
even though I totally agree with Burke’s statement that he could never allow his team to be filmed in such a way, part of me is very interested to see what Wilson is like behind closed doors.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
God I hope he’s exactly like he is on twitter
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Im just used to mostly stoic Leafs coaches (behind the bench, except occassional yelling at penalties and bad plays, etc.) and I KNOW they flip their shit in the dressing rooms – just want to see it.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Can you imagine a 24/7 with John Brophy as the head coach?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Nick Brophy would be better because then we’d get to watch a grown man piss himself.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Ok I’m guessing I missed a story here. Is he crazier than his old man and would scare the piss out of somebody (I’m also guessing Nick would be John’s son) or does Nick have a bladder problem. Or should I just have googled it?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I am so confused right now. I am aware of G.T.F.O. But, I haven’t quite figured out the context here. Unless this is just a massive “WHOOOOSH” moment
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Anybody throws me against the boards, I'm gonna piss all over myself.
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Ok, thanks to you and google and IMDB I get the joke. I should point out that I’ve never even seen a single scene from Slapshot. Not a one.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
No no you really shouldn’t. Go watch it now.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
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"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
This is like coming on here and saying, “Hey guys! I just drove a nail through my penis!”
It makes no sense. Sounds unhappy. And is generally quite hard to believe.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, I can’t honestly remember a time in my life, while channel surfing where it’s been on TV. While at Sunrise, HMV or whatever may have you, it never jumped out at me to buy or I never remembered to look for it. It kind of just fell through the cracks on the list of movies I should watch.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Next you’ll be telling me you’ve never seen Galaxy Quest.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I would never make that claim. I come from a family of Trekkies. Lots of things in that movie make me laugh my ass off
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Well then, just think of it this way – Slapshot is the Galaxy Quest of Hockey movies.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
watching two teams play hockey in the rain on wet ice, severely limiting their skill players isn’t interesting?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I liked the Sabres-Penguins Blizzard game until overtime when visibility started to be a problem.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Oh even when visibility became a problem was awesome… I’m more willing to watch a 2-1 snow game than a 2-1 rain game
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
That one was by far the best.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 15, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I didn’t like how they were filming it for the actual Winter Classic broadcast either, the camera angles were horrible.
The best one so far was the one at Wrigley though… I wish I had moved to Chicago in time to try to go to that one.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, of the winter classics, that one seemed to have the best angles.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Not to mention Wrigley is hands down my favorite stadium I’ve been to (part of the reason I moved to Chicago, aside from school)
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
imagine the Leafs on this show, that would make my life. who do you think the best opponent? i was thinking Montreal (obviously) or Detroit.
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by pho king awesome on Dec 15, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I know we don’t see each other enough, but I thought an EDM vs TOR would be interesting.
2 very young teams being built 2 very different ways.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
But, tanking and building through perpetual lottery picks is the smart way to build a franchise!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 15, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Except that if it were two Canadian teams, it would be produced by CBC and we all know how that would turn out…
… ugly.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
A Leafs/canadiens 24/7 would be so epic but it will never happen.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
so would a Canadiens Leafs Winter Classic. But it’s all ratings, ratings, ratings, and the league doesnt care about the Leafs. Even though we draw the highest ratings in Canada for our Saturday games, its all about the US ratings. Whatever.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yea sometimes having a small population sucks. But most of the time it’s pretty awesome.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
Canada
More square feet of awesome per person than anywhere else in the world!
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you Molson Canadian commercial … at least I think that was the beer brand that used that line.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Probably, if its a dumb platitude about awesome we are and how great our beer is, its probably a major brewer. At least their commercials are as cheesy and uninteresting as their beer is.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Back in the day
Molson Golden commercials were very funny. And yeah I lifted it from an Olympic commercial, but I still think its a great line.
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Back in the day
Molson used to make quality beer… or so I’ve been told. By old people.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
I’m old … and Molson’s NEVER made good beer.
They made beer that Canadians thought was good because we didn’t know any better (before the rise of the micro brewery), but it was never good beer.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I Have not had HBO in 5 years
Because my wife and I agree that some of the programs and movies on HBO are against our beliefs so we normally dont have HBO, But I got HBO for 30 days just to see 24/7 FLYERS Rangers.
So it was the first time I ever saw any 24/7 at all and it was FREAKEN AWESOME !
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Unreal. I thought for a second he was going to get busted for the “not continued forward motion” rule but watching it a few times it was always going fwd.
Really sick move. Had Backstrom dead to rights.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
I believe the correct term is:
Dick Nasty
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
That was pretty creative, but I was more impressed with the goal Toews scored during the game.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
meh. I just watched it. i’m not impressed when guys slow down like that in a shootout.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
It depends, I like Bertuzzi’s shootout moves, but that’s because I think it’s hilarious how long he takes to get from center ice to anywhere near the goal.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I still really want to see Dion in a shootout. Anyone that is smart with stats know if he has any career NHL shootout attempts?
If he has, there’s no video of it on youtube.
I’d bet he does a Malkin-like slapper from 2 feet away from the goalie
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I remember watching that game and just falling over laughing when Malkin did that slapshot
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Kane Deke was Sick
Wild Goalie probably was like “Crap ! and that will be on TV all day all night tonight & tomorrow !”
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I thought Burke’s roster freeze included not trading players? Not wanting to disrupt families around the holidays and all that?
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
Nah, it’s just there to play with Bill Watters mind.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Dec 15, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Not only does it include that, I’m pretty sure that’s all it is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it just meant that he put the roster in the freezer for a few weeks.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice with some warm caramel topping drizzled over top.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 15, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
A couple years ago when watters was still on am640 they had a segment called “Are you Smarter then Bill Watters?”. Over a hundred people participated on air against Watters in sports trivia, primarily Hockey.
Only 3 people beat him and only 1 went perfect. That man was me. Kiss my ass Billiam.
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 9:24 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Rec’d for sticking it to Bill Watters
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Concussion team
so here’s what the article lays out as some sort of concussion team:
Giroux – Crosby – Skinner
Mueller – Savard – M. Michalek
Gerbe – M. Richards – B. Schenn
I. Lapierre – Beagle – Bortuzzo
Staal – Letang
Pronger – Pitkanen
Sauer – Z. Michalek
Miller
Reimer
yeah. he’s retired but it was due to concussions so i think, like savard, its fair to include him
though we have a bunch of reserves: Nino Nieds, Radek Martinek, Marek Zidlicky
Lappy ~ Not Officially retired but .. retired
FLYERS are still carrying him on the LTI List so that they wont get a Salary Cap hit. He has been doing Pre and Post game shows.
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I think I missed Poni for a half-second last game. Then he shot high and wide. Don’t miss him at all.
It seems when it comes to rumors, much like Eklund or Incarcerated Bob, Bill Watters is a first of April credibility kind of guy.
snicker
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
Took me a while to get that one. Well played, Chemmy!
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by Back In Black on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I was somewhat sympathetic right after the Frattin hit, but it was too much awesome for that to last. I think I’m going to love his style for years to come. Such a fucking tank.
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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
by Redonred on Dec 15, 2011 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Say this was true, how does Eric Staal in blue and white sound?
Id be terrified of what we would give up for that giant cap hit…
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Well the GM said it wasn’t true, and I’ll believe him.
but I think it would have been another one of those Bobby Ryan/Mike Richards deals, though maybe even more.
I like his cap though.. he’s one of the best players out there.
GM’s have been known to deny trades before. I’m not saying that the rumor is true. But Rutherford denying it makes it no more or less likely in my mind.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
The thing is, even if Burke wanted to trade for Staal, he wouldn’t say yes during his roster freeze. He’d tell Rutherford “I’m interested, but not right now. Contact me after the holiday break.” And that would be the end of it.
As Chemmy pointed out, Burke’s not stupid enough to commit players to a trade who are still playing games for the other team in the meantime. It makes zero sense.
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Agreed. But like you said, it doesn’t mean the talks aren’t happening. Just that Burke wouldn’t agree to a trade at this point in time.
‘On hold’ is an ambiguous term.
Again, not that I think there’s any truth to this rumor.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
‘On hold’ is an ambiguous term.
Jim Rutherford knows all about being “on hold”.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Chemmy did a pretty good job of outlining why it logically makes no sense that a deal would be on hold for a month.
Least of all, Staal makes like $8M and Carolina is a cap floor team. The Canes aren’t paying an additional $1.2M to E Staal just to satisfy Burke’s self-imposed roster freeze.
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I agree it makes no sense to put a trade on hold for a month. But that doesn’t mean that talks aren’t happening.
Look, I’m not saying I believe the rumor. I’m just saying that a denial doesn’t make it impossible.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t take a GM at his word about possible player movement either. That being said, in this particular instance the only scenario I can see that would result in Staal being traded is if Karmanos goes to Rutherford and says “We can’t afford Eric anymore, find someone who will take his salary.” Short of that, the Canes aren’t trading him.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Which is entirely possible.
Also, interesting that Rutherford brought up Ward when McKenzie was seemingly asking about Staal
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
it is interesting,
I think Ward is their true franchise player. hard to say it isnt staal with his captaincy and points but they’ve got skinner now who may be as good as staal,
ward still wins them all their games, and their cup
by Ben Schnell on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
And smashing his stick at the end of the game was a pretty rare outburst from him apparently. He also got yanked in the game against Winnipeg right before. I wonder if maybe he’s getting tired of Carolina
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Carolina is tired of being Carolina.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not really interesting from a Carolina point of view.
Rutherford has consistently said for the past 3-5 years that EStaal and Ward are twin cornerstones of the franchise. It would have been more unusual for him not to mention Ward in the same breath when talking about players who are secure in Raleigh.
"I only wish both sides of the dysfunctional sibling rivalry that has throttled a half-dozen longstanding rivalries and ballooned the SEC and ACC to a ridiculous 14 teams each could have lost on the last play." -- Brian Cook
That is how I read it too.
Look you can speculate about anyone on this team except for Ward and Staal. You are wasting your time asking about those two. They aren’t moving.
(I would think Skinner is now in that list too)
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It’s a waste of time to ask about the other 90% of their roster too, unless you want pluggers.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
That is not quite true. Jokinen, Gleason, Ruutu, Allen, etc can all have some value. Pitkanen probably also has a lot but they’ll probably keep him.
They have a fair bit of young players with upside but I imagine they want to keep them (McBain, Faulk, Sutter, etc).
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None of them will get them that far on the rebuild process in terms of returns.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Jokinen can probably return them something pretty significant. He is a 20ish goal 60ish point player in the prime of his career on a pretty damn reasonable contract.
Ruutu and Gleason can both probably return solid-ish results (B-level prospect, high 2nd round pick, etc).
Look at Ottawa last year. You can get something for just about everyone. Most of them will return something like Poni, Antropov, and Moore did for us.
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Jokinen is closer to a 15ish goal 50 point player which is much more common than 20/60. Although his contract is reasonable, I don’t think he’d get more than a 2nd rounder.
Since he got to Carolina he has scored 54 G and 146 points in 205 GP. That works out to 22 goals and 58 points over a full season.
With him being locked in on a reasonable contract, that should get you a late first or a good but not blue chip prospect.
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The latest revision of Rutherford's immovable list
has been Staal, Ward, Skinner, Sutter, and an aside mention of Justin Faulk being close to it. Rutherford said after getting Sutter signed this summer that he expected him to become a franchise building block like Staal and Ward, and Sutter got an A last year at age 21 (which apparently pissed Erik Cole off something fierce).
The guys that were on that list last year and dropped off? Ruutu and Gleason.
One of our defensemen was nearly dealt earlier in the year. Faulk got a short-notice callup from Charlotte in the last week of October and drove across the state, only to be scratched that night and sent down after practice the next day, and there was zero injury buzz from the usual media suspects. If you take Rutherford at face value that he didn’t sour on Kaberle until a month in, then someone else was on the move until the other team got cold feet, and my guess is McBain.
"I only wish both sides of the dysfunctional sibling rivalry that has throttled a half-dozen longstanding rivalries and ballooned the SEC and ACC to a ridiculous 14 teams each could have lost on the last play." -- Brian Cook
Also
You think Pitkanen can be moved?
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Rutherford would definitely listen
Pitkanen has a 3-year deal, and since every single one of JR’s moves and non-moves this summer went to shit, it’ll be the last year of that contract before Carolina can even think about the playoffs again (especially in the new Patrick Division).
He would have to bring a good return, but he’s in play.
"I only wish both sides of the dysfunctional sibling rivalry that has throttled a half-dozen longstanding rivalries and ballooned the SEC and ACC to a ridiculous 14 teams each could have lost on the last play." -- Brian Cook
of course that depends on how well he comes back from the concussion
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s never happening. They’re only, what 3 million above the cap floor? They’re not giving up an Eric Staal type player just to move right to the cap floor. no way that happens strictly for “affordability” reasons.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
As long as we moved some salary out, I think he’d be impressive. 1. He’s big, and with the Leafs not having big bodies to throw in front of the net, that’d be a real addition – including on PP’s and when there’s a major push to tie things up. 2. Plus, he knows how to put the puck in the net – we’re not just talking a playmaker to get the puck to Phil, he’d be a whole new kind of addition. 3. Plus, playoff experience. Big issues for me would be chemistry, and who we delete to get him.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I could see something like Grabbo, MacCarthur, Kadri plus 1st.
Staal’s cap hit is probably $1.5m too high, I’d rather try for Getzlaf or Ryan out of Anaheim. Hell even Jason Spezza puts up more points at $1m less cap hit
Staal’s cap hit is 8.2 Million. Armstrong and Komisarek combined are 7.5. So we’d need to trade both of them (due to injury history, and general not-as-good-as-staal-ness) and a good prospect.
I’d make that trade, but I don’t think Carolina would. Also… 8.2 million is a lot to tie up in one player
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
and I doubt Burke trades Armstrong, but maybe I’m wrong.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
that too.
But I really don’t want a 8.2 Million cap hit on the Leafs unless that player is one of the top scorers in the league or the defenseman of a generation
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
yes, and younger than 27, especially with 4 more years at 8.25$ mill cap hit.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeah if it were between 8 and 7 I could live with it to a certain extent… over 8 the player better be Toews, Crosby, or maybe Tavares
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldnt pay Tavares that much, but I’d rather have him than Staal given the cap hit and age differences, to be honest.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry didn’t explain that well… that’s what I was trying to say… if we’re going to pay some one 8.2… it better be some 21 year old who’s already scoring a fair number of goals and looks to be one of the best player in the league in a few years
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t see many teams being able to manage Staal’s cap hit or his real dollars backloaded salary. If the canes need to deal him to save real salary then Burke has a better negotiation position and maybe able to swing a phaneuf like steal. But if Staal lands of the leafs, the leafs have a backlog of center unless also grabbo or connolly goes the other way.
Actually thinking about it, we could do Komisarek and Connolly and make the salaries work, it’d also work for Carolina since both Connolly and Komisarek’s contracts are up in half the term of Staal’s.
I still don’t really want Staal’s cap hit though.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Staal was one of the league’s best players until he snubbed Kessel before the All-Star game. I don’t know if I want that kind of karma on my team heh
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a way for him to earn the good karma back. Also, on a semi unrelated note, last year Staal gave an interview and when asked if he had any regrets about playing so long in Carolina, he said that he was disappointed that in all those years, Carolina has never played the leafs in Toronto on HNIC, thereby fulfilling a childhood fantasy. So by logical extension, him playing as a leaf would be the fulfilment of his childhood fantasy (waiver: may not be true)
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Dec 15, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
remember that Grabbo is a UFA, and while many of us would like him resigned, it cant really be at the rate similar UFAs have been commanding. That leads me to believe if we dont have him resigned by Feb, he is likely to be a piece in a trade. Much as I love the game he brings.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
He can be a piece in a trade for a big money player, but with his cap hit and how close the Leafs are to the cap, there’d have to be a few other major pieces besides picks and prospects
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Carolina would want nothing to do with a Staal trade where guys like Grabbo, Armstrong, Komi or other big money players were the center piece
they would be additions around a package like Colborne+ Schenn just to make the salary work for the Leafs
thus I want no part of it
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, they can keep Staal. Dont want him.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
ive been wanting to say this but i liked watching goose and chi-town go.
carolina arent some chumps, they’re not going to trade staal for our crap.. armstrong and komi?
they’re going to want Schenn, a colborne prospect, maybe a pick, and then someone else with salary like armstrong
by Ben Schnell on Dec 15, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
oh I wasnt speculating on a Staal trade at all. Don’t want him, we won’t get him, and to be honest he wouldnt fit this teams needs going forward. I just followed up on a point about Grabbo, who I think goes at the trade deadline if he isn’t resigned (and not for Staal or any player of that caliber unless part of a big package)
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
staals contract is also a huuuuge lotto ticket, if he is just having a bad year and returns to form, not too shabby, but if now he is who he will always be, it would be a horrific trade. not 8.7 mill+ outgoing assets worth of worthy risk
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I have to think he isn’t as bad as he is playing now. Look at their roster, it’s full of garbage, garbage and garbage, especially with Pitkanen and Skinner out. They are a god awful team.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
So what I’m hearing is we don’t want Eric Staal?
Can we start a trade rumor for some one I want… like Toews?
/notserious
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Jordan lol
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why do we need another 2nd line center?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
hes only the same age as kessel, and we dont know that hes only a second line center. even with pittsburgh’s injuries, he still hasnt gotten a chance to reallly be a top line center. he’s not a PPG center and won’t be, but he’s still a top center in the league. if we can choose anyone we want though, jordan staal isnt near the top of my list
by Ben Schnell on Dec 15, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
you can never have enough talent on a team. He is a good PK guy, responsible two way player. Large body with good net presence. Good thrive given the oppurtunity
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You have to pay for talent. I’m looking for Colborne to step up into that “talented #2 center” role, and instead we can spend assets on landing a #1.
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by Bower Power on Dec 15, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I’m really starting to believe that a #1 C isn’t going to happen. It is no easy task to acquire a player like that unless they are older or are attached to a horrible contract. Only way a #1 is coming in imo is from within.
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yup, I think so too. You can trade for a 1C, but its rare and expensive. I wouldn’t mind picking up an extra 1st round pick or two if we can do so.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
We also may get lucky with Colbourne or McKegg. Or Bozak might develop into a low end #1 (55-65 points). But this whole acquiring one through trade seems unlikely.
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I still have quite a bit of hope for McKegg. A number one C? I doubt it, but kids got real playmaking and scoring talent. If only he werent on such a garbage team, he’d be killing right now.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Kinds of 1Cs you can realisticly trade for (without selling the farm): Kyle Wellwood, Rich Peverly, Shawn Horcoff, possibly David Legwand or Sam Gagner…
Not exactly an appealing list.
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We didnt start any rumours, and as far as I was concerned, we were mostly showing how implausible the Staal rumours were.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I was referring to how Watters started this whole rumor even though it’s for a player that I’m not sure I want with a contract that I definitely don’t want.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I’d think about it hard if they took komi + lombardi but there is no way canes should take that deal.
its so unlikely you had to say it twice
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
right, he probably isnt THIS bad, but he probably isnt the 100 point player he was in 06 either, I want nothing to do with an almost 9 mill a year 70 point guy
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely not. Staal is a goal scorer who is aging. A lot of them peak where he is and this could be it.
He is the 4th highest paid player (by cap) in the league. I am not bending over backwards to take that.
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That’s what I’m saying… trading for Staal really doesn’t make sense for either team. Carolina probably wants to get rid of his cap hit, but to take him the Leafs would need to send back nearly all of Staal’s cap hit.
On the Leafs end, Carolina would want picks and/or prospects, so it’d be a 4-1 or 5-1 trade in all likelihood.
No. Thanks.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I keep going back to that ridiculous Joe Thornton trade whenever we bring up the idea of “no GM is that stupid”.
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
this makes me nervous
what if Staal turns into the next Scott Gomez.
you don’t want to be the habs
by Ben Schnell on Dec 15, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Frankly the GMs in the EA games seem smarter than their real-life counterparts sometimes
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
A number of times I think: “Well if ____ had just run that trade through NHL _ they could have seen that was a horrible idea”
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
oh yes that’s true, he’d a piece (or a deal for a pick or something)
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
8.25mm will get shea weber. Much rather have weber.
Besides after kulemin and mac are traded for parise the leafs will be maxed out unless they go to a luxury tax system for overages.
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by torleafsfan29 on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
8.25mm will get shea weber. Much rather have weber.
8.25 and four first round picks. He’s RFA, not UFA. (Not to mention he plays the same side as Phaneuf – two 25 minute right D men would be hilarious. Bring back Beauchemin and Gunnar and we’ll run four D for 55 minutes a night.)
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Burke aint paying 4 first round picks, more likely a mix of players and prospects, maybe a pick, to get him. He won’t get offer sheeted – those things are gone with the dinosaurs, pretty much.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I’d give him that kind of money if we can dump some crappy contracts. I’d love a Weber/Phaneuf tandem or (i forget what side they play) an amazing top 4 dominating ice time.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn and Komi would have to be gone. All four play on the same side and there is no way you can pay 3.5 and 4.5 for your 3rd and 4th RD when your top 2 RD’s cost almost 14 million. Weber really doesn’t make sense for us when we have Phaneuf.
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Schenn doesnt need to go for that to work. More like Lombardi/Komisarek/Liles. That would do it and then some.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn needs to go because paying over 17 million dollars for the rights side of your D is TERRIBLE cap management.
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It can’t really get high enough for that to not be a really bad idea.
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Parise is 3 months older than Staal
Their career Goals per game are almost identical.
Both are having pretty shit years.
Parise is more likely available than E Staal would be. And wouldn’t be 8.25M. I dont think.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
the more I think about it, the more I believe that if Parise hits UFA he signs some ridiculous garbage contract we keep seeing these days. Want noooo part of that.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the largest deal in league history?
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I think thats a bit rich, I was referring more to to the bonuses handed out like they were candy.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
in theory. Tell me Kovi’s contract isn’t cap circumvention and mean it.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
It was deemed circumvention – NJ was fined 3M and lost a 1st and 3rd pick to deter them or other team from trying the same thing. I think Parise asks for as much if not more then the 6.7M cap that kovalchuk gets.
That was the first contract. Techinically the second one wasn’t considered circumvention.
Parise may take the same (or less) if he takes a long contract.
My guess is something in the ball park of 33-35 mill/5 years if he takes a shorter contract or 60 ish/10ish years.
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the second one was almost identical to the first one.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
It changed just enough to fit their “new rule”. I believe it dropped about 4 million and 2 or 3 years. That way it ended at like 41 instead of 43 and bumped the caphit by about half a million.
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Hossa and Pronger’s contract are also questionable because of their age and front loading but NHL found no issue.
Pronger’s is hilarious because his isn’t circumvention because he is over 35. His contract stays on the cap if he retires.
Off the top of my head the circumventing contracts pre Kovi were:
Vinny
Zetterberg
Franzen
Luongo
Hossa
Savard
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That’s a horrible deal for Carolina and for us.
I don’t want anybody in their late 20s making $7M+ and locked up long-term because we’re giving up a shit-ton of assets for a guy that’s going to be diminshing returns.
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If we’re breaking the bank,
under 25
RFA status, or locked into a good RFA contract.
that’s the shopping list.
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I understand where you’re coming from and I’d prefer someone younger and cheaper but I’d bet Staal could probably put up 30 goals/70 pts for another 6-7 years. If he wasnt shooting 6% this year (closer to his career 11%) he’s probably on pace for 65 points this year.
I’d bet Staal could probably put up 30 goals/70 pts for another 6-7 years
If I thought both of us would be around here over that time period I would take this bet in a second.
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Haha that is a bet in itself but can I ask why? He just turned 27 two months ago. He wont put up 70 points when hes 34?
Most point scorers peak at about 27 and goal scorers about 25. So no I highly doubt it.
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yeah I very much doubt he puts up 70+ points at 34. Very much.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I’d agree. Staal is great, but I dont want to break the bank for a 27 year old player that will be in decline when we’re actually compettive for a stanley cup.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
4th highest cap hit in the league. Probably already peaked. Pass.
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But the cap hit is all about the margin – overpaying a guy who makes $8.25m by $1.5m isn’t really a big deal. I’d be happen to “downgrade” Armstrong or Lombardi with Frattin/Kadri to make up the difference
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There’s no game tonight. =(
by c_gee on Dec 15, 2011 9:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No Leafs game?
Everyone loses.
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You could always view it as getting all of the Sabres injuries out of the way early in the year so they won’t happen later?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Has this ever worked?
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Probably not…
maybe if you just believe strongly enough in the universe balancing things out?
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
The Hockey Gods are angry and need to be appeased. They demand the sacrifice of 3 rink rats or a Dion Phaneuf smash of a Buffalo player
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well maybe Dion will smash them all healthy tomorrow
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn't going to post on here today..
just because I have a ton of work to do, but I HAD to come on and rec this article…BEST TITLE EVER
Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- There's a Loblaws on Carelton?!
That soft goal gave me a hard Colboner...
No hockey until tomorrow…but at least there’s two games in a row. Though it will not help my social life.
Here's what I don't understand
Leafs play Friday and Saturday.
Buffalo plays Friday and Saturday.
Both teamss previous games were on Tuesday; neither played Wednesday or tonight (Thursday).
The venue, the F’N Center, has no event planned for tonight.
Why are both teams playing unnecessary back-to-back games? Why couldn’t this game have been tonight which benefits both teams and is an open night at the Sabres arena?
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by SkinnyFish on Dec 15, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
gotta keep the games away from all that must-see Thursday night TV?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t compete with the Houston-Indiana Football game on tonight.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I’d guess most teams want home weekend games to maximize ticket/beer revenue and perhaps broadcaster ratings preference. Back to back games on weekend maybe a necessary evil but I don’t understand back to back during the week followed by multi-day gaps. Maybe teams want more at home time because aside from staples centre, msg and a few others most arenas have more scheduling flexibility.
And who is the is schedule decision maker for NHL – the team, some operation guys – whoever it is he needs to be fired.
The Sabres specifically asked for as many friday-saturday home games as possible last season. I don’t know if they did it again this year, but it seems like they start with the previous year’s schedule to make the new one.
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Ok,
so maybe McKenzie did the right thing after all.
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Cant beleive this guy was our assistant GM for years
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t even need to click that. So funny.
Also, one team.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
One team per league anyway. GO GENS GO!
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Traded? In rec league? How is that even possible?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bribe the rec league commish with booze?
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I’ll give you a billion dollars
Oh wait, that doesn’t work well
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by pho king awesome on Dec 15, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
we’re hockey geeks. each franchise has a GM, coach, and minor team. Year starts with a draft, and then there’s a trade deadline, and all the rest.
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by SkinnyFish on Dec 15, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, Yes we are. but we got joe bowen to announce our championship game one year.
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someone has, there’s always a “special guest” the championships..last year was a former cup winning Leaf, but damn it his name escapes me.
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Was it Bill Barilko?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
??? I really don’t know what to say here.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
I am going to assume that the following is appropriate
Whoosh
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Probably. I mean, I know who Bill Barilko is, but have no idea why it would be the first name to mind. Whatever.
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It was probably a joke because he died 60 years ago in a pretty famous story.
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this.
Tragically Hip song, and now probably the most famous Leaf Cup winner ever.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
ice_chip Chip Alexander
So a Toronto reporter asked Muller after Leafs game if he felt sorry for Staal because of less-talented wingers Staal had to play with. Here’s what Staal said today: “That’s Toronto for you. When you’re dealing with the Toronto market that’s what you’re going to get.”
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Why does he care? Toronto’s not much of a hockey market anyways.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 15, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and when you’re dealing with the Carolina market, one thing you don’t get is an actual fan base.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Nascar says what’s up?!??
/iknowyouwereactuallyreferingtohockey
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 15, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I really dislike Stall. He is very talented but his attitude and ego are a problem.
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Staal’s been spoiled by the media in Raleigh. There’s one, maybe two beat writers and the Hurricanes (unless in the playoffs) are still behind college sports and the NFL. Those guys are coddled.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
he can have fun with a legendary career in Carolina that is promptly forgotten by the “fan base” there. And we’ll still be in Toronto, selling out our games (lol LAFFS 1967 bad fans), covering our players in depth, and remembering our greats (Gilmour, Sundin, Clark, etc. etc. etc.) Hell I bet we remember our one season of Ron Francis more than his entire time in Carolina or Hartford or wherever.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Which makes me think he would be an awful fit here. Don’t doubt his talent but the way he speaks about Toronto
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He’d never waive his NTC to go to Toronto.
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What else has he said about Toronto other than a sarcastic joke at an all star game and a comment about how dumb the media is in Toronto?
yea really, i think this staal hate is a little overblown. I agree with his comment, the question to Muller wasnt really a great one
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by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s a bad fit because of some perceived attitude towards toronto media or the city.
I think he’d be a terrible fit because acquiring him would cripple the team’s depth at both the NHL and amateur level, and he’d never live up to the actual level of play (one of the top 10 forwards in the game) or perceived level of play (the best power centre since Lindros).
Basically if you ever wanted to know how Mats Sundin would have been treated in Toronto if he was from Northern Ontario instead of Sweden, get Eric Staal.
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When listening to Watters’ trade rumors, remember that this is a guy who would need to waive his NTC to come to a city whose media presence he’s kicked twice.
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by Bower Power on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I do feel sorry for Staal.
Tlusty and Dwyer suck.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
meh, he had Skinner up until a week ago, its not like it is a Sundin length winger drought we are talking about here
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ya im not saying every player on their roster is junk, but that “top” line from last game was awful for Staal.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Are there any players that could realistically be made available before trade deadline that would help our team? If we’re in this exact sport (6th in East) come Feb., what do we add to our team?
I dont think he is realistically available at the trade deadline, given NJDs near-playoffs position. Maybe as a UFA. Maybe.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Realistically yes. At this point I think the leafs need to improve their PK, then look to upgrade defence and find a board/puck battling top 6 winger or center.
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In terms of centers that might not require you to sell the entire farm (list isn’t terribly appealing): Kyle Wellwood, Rich Peverly, Shawn Horcoff, possibly David Legwand or Sam Gagner.
Defense, possibly: wideman (gag) Tyutin, Chris Butler(lol), Tim Gleason, Though really this list is pointless because everyone knows you’re trading for Francois Beauchemin
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Peverley just resigned for a contract that starts next year. I don’t think he is available.
For C’s I think one of Berglund/Oshie may be available, Brassard, etc.
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I keep hearing Brassards name, but do we really need another second line centre? I dont know. We have Colborne coming up, Connolly out there, and Grabbo available (this year).
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t trying to suggest I want him (I don’t). Just saying who I think is on the market.
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Oh I know, I just wondered if you or anyone else knew much about him. I’ve seen his stats and they are okay for his age but I’m not sure what to make of him…
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
He was a pretty high pick who had a very promising rookie season where he was contending for the calder cut short by a season ending injury. Starting his second year he got some time with their star (Nash), under-impressed and played lower in the depth chart and played okay but a little below expectations. Last year he bounced back a bit and had a good season getting himself a relatively high (but not ridiculous) RFA contract. This year he started terrible and ended up in the coach’s dog house.
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I mean if he is cheap and we dont think Colborne is ready then perhaps, but I wouldnt trade any prospects or high picks for him. We arent desperate.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahahaa
Oh. You weren’t making a joke about Brassard being a 2nd line centre.
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There is an argument to be made that he can become one (2 of his first 4 seasons were pretty promising, though a lot of that time was played with Nash) and he is only 24. Someone will probably make the gamble he can turn into it. Just better not be the Leafs as I think its way more likely that he doesn’t pan out, than that he does. (Also his cap hit isn’t very good).
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Potentially teams out of the playoff picture with a lot of money committed going forward. Right now, that list would be Anaheim & Columbus, but others could be LA and Calgary.
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So, those teams could have players available.
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I still think either Ryan or Perry gets traded before the deadline. One of Weber or Suter, as well.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Haha it would take quite the ransom to acquire suter plus it would knock the Preds out of the playoffs. There’s no way they’ll be able to replace those 27 minutes of TOI.
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They already lost Hamhuis for nothing two years ago. Would they be willing to lose another top defender with nothing to show for it?
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Nashville seems to have an infinite fountain of defensemen and someone will trade for his rights.
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Factual note:
Nashville got SOB and cash for Hamhuis’ rights.
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What less people are talking about is what they’re going to do with Lindback? He’s up for RFA this summer and behind a decade of Pekka Rinne.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
They’ll sign him to a short term deal. Whatever keeps him RFA at the end of the deal, probably. He’s probably not a trade target as long as Bernier, Bobrovsky, or Schneider are on the market, so holding out to fish for offers (a la Turris) doesn’t make sense, and he’ll probably want to keep working with Mitch Korn. Any goalie who walks out of a secure backup job in Nashville for anything other than a locked up #1 role is pretty much an idiot.
Maybe Nashville trades him, but I think giving him 2 more years to prove himself (and to get at least one of Bernier, Bobrovsky, or Schneider out of the way) nets them more on the market.
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My guess is he’ll be out of Nashville by the start of 2013/2014 season. If I had to guess he gets moved either this off season or next off season.
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I dunno. Jeremy Smith could probably come in, but it’s not like Pickard is pushing his way into the AHL, nor is Engren, and Magnus Hellberg (my vote for “best name ever”) is still young. I’m saying next off season or the one after that for Lindback.
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Fair enough. They can always sign a career backup type if they want to a 1-2 year term(The Garon’s of the world), if they can get a good return.
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I wonder if its Weber that gets moved. As nhlcheapshot pointed out the other day, Weber’s QO is 7.5 mil.
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I think one of them will play for a different team next season, but I have no clue which it will be.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
It’ll be Suter. With the Leafs.
/optimism
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man LA missing playoffs would be bad. This was supposed to be their year to shine.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
you mean like bad/terrible or bad like the power glove?
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bad for their supposed team-building “momentum”
Just locked in Doughty, looked like they were trying to go over-the-top with that Mike Richards trade.
Now they can’t fucking score.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
funny that both teams that picked up what are pretty much #1Cs (LAK and CBJ) are doing terribly.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Although first place says they’ll be okay.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Richards was a #2 on Philly and now on LA. A great #2, but a number too still.
CBJ is being done in by being horrible.
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4+ seasons with over 60 points, and 2 seasons over 70 points isn’t a number one C? No wonder we call #1Cs unicorns, by that standards theres barely any.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I miss Mats.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think what he’s saying is that Jeff Carter was really the #1 center there
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
sure, and Malkin is a #2C on Pittsburgh. But he’s #1 on almost any other team.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, totally forgot Philly put him on the wing
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Carter shooting .75 S/G fewer than any of his last three years. Reminiscent of trying to play Grabovski and Kessel together: just don’t.
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Rick Nash wants the puck.
Jeff Carter wants the puck.
Playing them on the same line is stupid.
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Oh look their only two threats on the same line, well that makes defensive matches all the more easier.
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Yeah the talent pool in Columbus is about as deep as the gene pool in South Carolina.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought there forwards would have better depth this year.
With Prospal, Vermette, Brassard, Umberger and Johansen all their to provide secondary offense (with the top end coming from Nash and Carter) I thought they would be able to score better.
I am not surprised by their terrible defensive game though. Lol Mason.
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They’re still just t-27 for GF/G (2.33). They should have depth, but when you play both of your trigger men on the same line…well, toss a Keith-Seabrook (or even Gunnar-Phaneuf) out against that line, and then pretty much call it a day. They undercut their own depth. And I’m not sure the Lupul comparison is apt, because Lupul shoots with much less frequency than Carter and Nash – both of whom (along with phil) made the top 10 in average shots per game in the three seasons leading in to this one.
You can only have so many trigger guys.
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I agree the Lupul comparison isn’t great it was mostly in response to Skinny’s second comment (that putting your best players on the same line makes for easy defensive matchups).
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It’s their single most played line. Nash-Carter-Prospal made up 21.74% of the CBJ line combos over the last 10 games. At this shooting pace and his career S%, Carter would barely be expected to break the 30G mark over a full 82 games. You bought a trigger man. Let him do it. It’s ridiculous that Arniel hasn’t been fired for it.
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On the other hand, putting them on the same line makes double teaming way tougher. That is what I love about having Lupul and Kessel on the same line.
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fair enough, I just thought you meant he is a #2C generally. I’d say on our team he’s a #1C but hey…
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a number 2 C on LA. He is a number 1 C on most teams.
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In all honesty I think he was the number 3 C last year behind Giroux and Briere (with Carter playing RW on one of the top 2 lines).
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by LeafFan1989 on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If LA legitimately becomes one of those teams I will be very humbled. I called them for a contender this year.
Actually I called Washington over LA in the cup final and both teams are doing pretty damn poorly.
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I seriously thought they’d contend for the Cup this year.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t there like a 5 minute penalty for making calls that bad?
I’m sure there is.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
:(
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Or until Skinny comments, which is like the opposition scoring, so…. you go free.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Geez, the guy picks LA and Washington, and you only keep the guy in the box for 9 MINUTES?
Clearly, you’re not the next Shanahan.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
im at work, but is it the black ice? my roommate showed me this morning
i want to go so bad
it would be really scary skating on that though
by Ben Schnell on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Looks awesome
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is it’s really deep water, and extremely cold (In order to freeze over)
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Made me a little homesick. Tagish is beautiful.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Tagish Elvis is still around
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Last I heard he was, but that was a few years ago.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
same, haven’t been to White horse since 04
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think Christmas that year was the last time I was there, actually. My family’s all moved to the Island since then, so I haven’t had cause to go back.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the link Chemmy!
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tsk, tsk
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
What if you laughed because of a link? Who gets credit there?
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Your eyes go crossed
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 15, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jake Gardiner likes Justin Bieber
Might have to drop him off my fantasy team…
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
Are him and Bozak besties now?
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I think only Kessel and Bozak get that moniker. I guess you could have a bigger bromance going on.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Three Stooges?
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Entire Leafs team going for big dinner tonight, four or fifth time they’ve done so this year. Some said it never happened with other teams.
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Sudden change. Rogers and Bell says team dinners are waste of money. Dinner cancelled. Players provided with bread and imitation butter.
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Then bread inexplicably delayed.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
But if they buy both the bread and the margarine they get 20% off a pack of saltine crackers
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
And Weisswasser wins another new phone.
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Rogers announces a fee of 20$ per 1-inch length of players sticks, claims surcharge is an attempt to stop "players who get sticks direct from manufacturers without paying for the cost of MLSE employees to hand the player a stick when necessary
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
If a player requests a trade they are redirected to Cliff Fletcher in “retentions”
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Which is just him rambling for hours on end.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
until the player finally gives up and screams “I can’t take it anymore! Nothing he says makes any sense! Jeff Finger is NOT an NHL defenceman! AHHHHH”
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Players provided with bread and imitation butter.
that’s actually illegal in Wisconsin. No joke.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting from The Hockey News
I’ve always had the feeling that Dallas Eakins could potentially be this generations Marc Crawford.
No way Leafs let him go.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
burke once said that he’d never keep someone if they got a chance to shine somewhere else in a bigger roll, pretty sure if Eakins asked, Burkie would make it happen
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure he would just fire Ron Wilson.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I would hope so, but I really don’t know.
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I think it’s telling that when he cleaned out the coaching staff Eakins stuck around.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Both RW and Eakins were hired preBurke IIRC.
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This is my point.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I was mostly adding that RW was preBurke too and he kept him around. Are you suggesting that he would fire RW for Eakins because Eakins was kept while RW was too?
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No, just that he obviously believes Eakins is a good coach and valuable to the organization. Given how many current and future Leafs have played for Eakins it would make sense to bring him up.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, I just don’t know that if Eakins was being offered a job somewhere else would lead him to fire RW just to keep Eakins around.
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I would think it would be more of a “Would you like that job, or to coach the Leafs next fall?” Sort of deal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
right, but if Burke thinks Wilson is doing a good job, why would he fire wilson for a guy who has never coached at the nhl level before?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
That is what I am saying.
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it is also what I am saying
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Just doesn’t seem like a sound strategy to let go of a guy like Eakins. Look at the Habs, they lost out on both Muller and Boucher. Not that either one is tearing down the biz right now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
exactly, I don’t think he’d stop Eakins from taking an NHL head coaching position……..respect and all
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Great read
How much longer do we have him under contract for?
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I had the impression Eakins was a good coach.
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by Back In Black on Dec 15, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
"You should not be training for a 45-second shift or only 18 minutes a night," he said. "What’s going to happen when you get caught out on the ice for a minute and 15 seconds, or a minute-and-a-half? I want to know that, when we’re in the Calder Cup final, in Game 7, and we’re in quadruple-overtime, I want to know right then we’ve got the other team right by the balls, because we are way fitter than they are."
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No one is leaving the scrum until one of you feels my bicep.
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by kudzupo on Dec 15, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
*after going through a play for the third time.
SAY WHAT AGAIN!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 15, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
We got to the barn and Burky threw one of THESE at Lowe
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by BCapp on Dec 15, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And that’s how Sequin keeps fisting us up the ass
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Why does everyone spell his name with a q?
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Because it’s pretty. Like Bieber.
Or Lady Gaga.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
So he’s only pretty if you’re part of a deeply disturbed and misinformed segment of the population?
…yeah, that sounds like Boston.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
C’mon lucky seven!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We shall fight them on the bleachers, we shall fight them on the ice!!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
And when I killed my first giant in Skyrim I was like “FUCK YEAHS!!!!1”
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Dec 15, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Was it over when Lucic ran Reimer? Hellllllll nooooooo…….
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm please don’t tell me you are predicting the future.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
/blutarskied
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Until you pin me Matt, Festivus is not over.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, I think he’s doing the dice thing too much.
That’s really all he’s got.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is amusing me.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
This is a transcript of my wife and I discussing potential baby names
Me: How about Wendel?
Wife: No, he’ll get made fun of by other children.
Me: Then he’ll PUNCH THEM IN THE BLOOD.
Wife: …riiiight. What if it’s a girl?
Me: Wendella.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions
Wendel works too. Tell her that you are tryign to eliminate gender stereotypes in naming conventions.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I would, but her parents actually did do that and stuck her with “Cody”. She’d renamed herself by the time she was 10.
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wendy?
Cmon guys.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
If this means there's a bun in the oven
Congratulations!
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 15, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks!
Is future 1st Overall too much to hope for?
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I serioously considered “Wendel” for my son’s name as well (he’s 14 now). And ultimately moved on for the exact same reasons.
“He’ll be called Wendy, and it’s hard enough being a kid as it is”.
Next choice was “Rusty” to go with my last name of Steel. The wife veto’d that one.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
You mean to tell me she never heard the song: “Boy named Sue before”?
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
Although the Man in Black gets a pass for being awesome, neither of us are country fans at all. In fact, we’re actively anti-country.
Which makes for interesting times what with living in Calgary and all.
True story. When my daughter was younger, she accidentally adjusted her alarm clock radio in her room to a local country station. When my wife found out, she woke her up to berate her. “Don’t you know country music makes you stupid?”
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LOL nice. I hate sheep shagger’s music as well but Johnny Cash is sick. I’ve suspended my sister from borrowing my car because the last time she did the country station was left on the radio. Unacceptable.
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
I don’t need captions… it makes me laugh just looking at Jamal Mayers in the picture
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Chances Jamal is on the team next year?
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
by Bower Power on Dec 15, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Man Brian Gionta is tiny!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is our sign language short form for Gionta
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if a drove a spike about this big through Sutter’s brain I could convince him to trade for Jamal?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
augh, this one’s too easy, trying to resist the obvious.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 15, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaa
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
that is so horrible it is the best thing ever
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
There are important details we need to find out here.
How’d he end up with 21.5 PIM? Is there a 0.5 minute penalty for taking a dump on the ice in that league?
How’d he get the glove?
Did he go #2 in the penalty box, or did he just drop trow at say center ice and push one out while holding the glove under his brown eye?
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
I like to think he made a show of it at center ice and everyone was too grossed out to go stop him
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I want to know if he then shot the poo filled glove into the net or at the opposing team’s bench.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
maybe he shook it at the other teams bench like a champagne bottle
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Was it in the palm of the glove, or in the fingers? Did the victim find out before or after re-equipping the glove?
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
And here I was thinking gloves stank bad enough already.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
We have our answers!
via this dude (pardon the lols)
I know the guys that reffed this game, they had no idea what to do. Not exactly in the rulebook lol.
s They fought on the ice, and while they were being separated after, he threw the other guy’s glove…
into the stands, went to the locker room and changed after he got kicked out, then walked into the…
stands and dropped his pants right there and just went for it.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
so there was some for thought put into this, not just a spur of the moment “i gotta shit, so ill go here! in this….GLOVE!”
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, the time tested Boston Hot-Paw.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
In case some missed it
The 24/7 episode when the Rangers faced the Leafs.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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Btw
Gardiner and Schenn are both #2 on the Rangers whiteboard
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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man, the more of this I see, the more I want a Leafs version
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
That Phaneuf hit will be on highlight reels for years. Best timing for that hit. The slo-mo makes it even better.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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the Leafs end of the year vid is going to have some dandys on it
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a little sad they didn’t show the Schenn hit that came right after the Phaneuf hit. That would have been nice in slo-mo.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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Yeah that hit looks ridiculous in slow motion.
Tortorella:
HOLY FUCK! THAT’S A FUCKING FLYING ELBOW! HOLY FUCK!
… right, buddy.
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
Immediate reactions are always blown out of proportion.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I can attest to this, though often it is a combination of immediate reaction without processing the information, and drinking during the games.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
That’d be really funny if Torts was drinking during the game
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
GDTs are a perfect example.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I believe I spewed several all caps profanity filled posts last night alone, during a game that was quite frustrating.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
So. Bad.
Really jealous of NYR and PHI fans right now.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
We cannot give up (he means pass up) shots on this goalie (Gustavsson).
Ayup.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Sucks we don’t play either team again before the Winter Classic, that will be the only bit we see of the Leafs.
At least it was a win.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Be afraid, be very afraid!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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Yes, Brad Richards, you may be earning huge amounts of money and banging talentless fame-whore Olivia Munn, but you could have been earning huge amounts of money in Toronto and playing alongside Phil Kessel – which would have elicited many of the same feelings and sensations you experience with Munn only without the self-loathing you feel afterward.
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
and probably still banging Olivia Munn…
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
That was awesome. I want to see the Washington one, now…
by LeafInVancouver on Dec 15, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
awesome.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Gardiner.... oh no
@Jgardiner272
Jake Gardiner
Any guy who says they don’t like Justin Bieber is either lying or not man enough to admit they do.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
Changed my mind about Jake.
Needs time in the AHL.
And also… for fuck sake.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
/facedesk
Just skate around the opposition like they don’t even exist, and I’ll let this slide Jake.
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- Niels Bohr
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Meh
The Leafs are my Rushmore
Certified Grabbo Lover and member of the PPPPP
I also write things about stuff over at the Leafs Nation
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much, I don’t care if he walks around listening to creed all the time as long as he is good at hockey
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
“Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Dec 15, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
the Leafs just gained 5’000’000 12 year old fans. Woo jersey sales.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes
@RealKyper
Nick Kypreos
Look for #Flyers 2 announce Pronger will be shut down indefinitely. No time line expected but some believe rest of season may be in jeopardy
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
Does this all stem from the Grabbo stick to the face?
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I also write things about stuff over at the Leafs Nation
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t think it helped.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Career over, cap hit lives on. Fantasy team takes a hit
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Dec 15, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
While he may be gone we shall always remember his spirit cap hit in our heart wallet
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yay!
I mean, I don’t want Pronger to suffer any sort of permanent injury (he’s a fun guy when he’s being a jackass to the media) but I’m happy about this from an “improves Leafs chances in future games” p.o.v.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 15, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I can never be happy about a concussion due to the long-term health effects. At the same time I wonder whether this is some degree of karma.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Burke did an interview with the Star.
Comments that interested me:
On where the team is now: "We’re looking at fine-tuning now. […] When we first got here, it was all major surgery. It was all M.A.S.H. unit stuff. It was all triage. Now, really, you’re looking at cosmetic surgery — maybe a little lipo."
On trading MGK for their slow start: "We’ve had some vultures try to cherry-pick those guys because they are underperforming," says Burke. "But I think in this business you bet on people and you win on people. You don’t trade a guy because he is in a rough patch."
On Aulie’s slow start: "But Keith went down, he didn’t pout, he didn’t sulk. He’s back up now. I don’t like the fact that he hasn’t played in the last couple of games, so we’re going to sort that out."
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
just read that. An okay read. I think he confirms what we basically already know in terms of the roster – he isn’t going to make a blockbuster this trade deadline, especially with the team on this course. But my guess is a few pieces move here and there to pick up the big guys he wants, if they are available.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I literally just finished reading that… I thought the bit about Aulie was interesting… I guess this means we’ll be seeing him this weekend.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
see him sent down I hope, don’t think anyone playing right now will be sat
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… as I go watch the Marlies on Sunday I wouldn’t mind seeing him get sent down… just one more guy that I want to watch playing in the game I’m going to
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah sounds like Burke wants him playign somewhere, and if its Wilson’s decision given how many times he has been benched (and his relatively weak play when in) my guess is he goes to the Marlies.
by Goosemonster on Dec 15, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I like to hear that he plans to stick with players through rough patches, given how many “rough patches” are just bad luck. Also, specifically in regard to Kulemin, I don’t think his defensive contributions to the squad should be overlooked. He’s still our best defensive forward, even if he isn’t scoring goals (his assist totals are well in line with his career numbers).
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
If you haven't seen the San Jose Sharks holiday shopping network spoof
My rambling tweets
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing - Vince Lombardi
LOL Lupul trolling Buffalo
JLupul Joffrey Lupul
Is there any windowless rooms? #buffalo yfrog.com/esoreklj
http://yfrog.com/esoreklj
JLupul Joffrey Lupul
Well that was entertaining. I wish I could RT my favorite responses but they were too vulgar. See you tomorrow, should be a good one..
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
Was just about to post that
Hilarious. Response:
kevin mitchell @Atom_Smashers
@JLupul obviously u haven’t got a good look at buffalo. 80% of the buildings windows r boarded up. #shithole
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
First he trolls Habs fans and now buffalo? Ottawa next!
"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else."
Albert Einstein
by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 15, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Poor grammar aside, Lupul is king of Leafs Trolls.
Can never trade this guy.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 15, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
JLupul Joffrey Lupul
I am ashamed of my grammar as are most of my English teachers, who I just found out are following me on twitter.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
by Draglikepull on Dec 15, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
this team is all kinds of awesome.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
It hit me on my drive home from work. This is Bill Watters' Uncle Rico imitation.
Guy used to be something, but is no longer and now desperately tries to get back into the game, only instead filming himself throwing fake passes, he’s going on the radio reporting on fake trades in the works.
Sad really.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
My How the Mighty have fallen
Back in 2006 I used to listen to Leafs Lunch and Bill Watters on MOJO all the time and I thought he was pretty solid and Knowledgable !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
then you came to SBN and learned why he’s not and never was.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I kinda felt bad for him… Till he made those pretty dumb homophobic comments this summer.. then I stopped feeling bad for him. He pretty much hung himself
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Why did you feel bad for him?
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 15, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Because I hate to see someone who has a career, Income, bills, family and friends all lost just do to one fatal error.
Was it bad ? Yes. Should he have been held accountable ? Yes. But I also try to believe in forgiveness.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Its hard to rebuild an image once its publically tarnished. Who was that guy from Chicago who tried to catch that foul ball in the playoffs ? He had to MOVE from Chicago because he was so badly villified
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Watters is old. He probably doesn’t really even give a shit.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 15, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
True and he probably has already made his money
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
If you were a Cubs fan, you’d probably hate Steve Bartman too.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 15, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Thats his name. Bartman. That guy was absolutely Villified. Did he make a mistake ? yeah. Do you really think that he and he alone cost the CUBS that playoff series and that the players didnt have anything to do with the outcome at all ?
Hhhhmmmm ?
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
I always thought it was just Bartman and the alignment of the planets that did the Cubs in.
by Self Destructive Zones on Dec 15, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
NO it was the Curse of the GOAT !
It was the GOAT I tell You !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
40+ years of failure is poor management/bad luck etc.
100+ years is a curse
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, I hate Bartman… but in all seriousness the Cubs blew that series regardless of whether Alou catches that foul ball
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
then he shouldn’t have been such an idiot on a national platform
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I have no sympathy for a person who makes a living saying things on television and radio getting in trouble for saying something stupid while on tv or the radio
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much, its the same for everyone at every job, you fuck up bad enough, you deserve to be fired. this isn’t an honest mistake or anything
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
steve something? Bur…bar…ber…Burtch!! …no wait… Bartman?
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
OMG !
One of my Favorite Seinfeld Episode EVER is on !
The Keith Hernandez Magical Loogey theory and the Art Vandelay Industries interview with George also !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Flyers announce Pronger out for the rest of the season, including playoffs, with post-concussion syndrome.
Flyerrob was also put on LTIR, having injured himself while attempting to reconcile this with his mocking of Crosby’s injury.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks ! I propose the Don Beebe Helmet !
Players will be safer but will look like Bobbleheads on ice !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
blast from the past. I totally forgot about Don Beebe
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Movie Quotes
-You’ll give him a complex.
-That’s a huge noggin.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
But Seriously
Honestly. if they could take a spin off of this and maybe add some extra padding like the Don Beebe helmet for the helmet type of .. uhhhhh a uuhh Helmet ? Maybe there will be less injuries
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
that and have players actually attach their helmets properly. A good helmet should NEVER fall off your head, it shouldn’t really wiggle at all.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
you mean like that NY Ranger who’s helmet flew off his head after the Maple Leaf Creamed him in the boards
They played that over and over on 24/7
all I could say was OMG WOW !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Yep. Unfortunately Pronger is further example of this… just go to ESPN’s nhl page and their picture of Pronger shows him playing with his chinstrap about an inch from his chin.
Not saying that it would have saved him a concussion, but it certainly wouldn’t have hurt him any more
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
PRONGER OUT INDEFINATLY
Post Concussion Like symptoms ~ advised out for the rest of the season
FLYERS should ~ IMHO ~ announce an Interim Captain before March.
as I am typing this …
Bower Power ?
WHAT ? REALLY ?
I am just going to walk away from this.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Spellchecker
!Indefinitely !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
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DEEP THOUGHTS !
Definitely a complex person
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Avery
Avery calling someone a Loser ~ Kinda odd, weird, and obtuse dont you think ?
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
No, no, and no.
You keep using those words…I don’t think they mean what you think they mean.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Yes yes and yes
Weird ~ 2. Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange. (Strange that a person who was not picked up by any team in the league and sent to the AHL calling others Losers)
Odd ~ 1. Deviating from what is ordinary, usual, or expected; strange or peculiar (Its Odd to hear that from a guy who calls others Losers yet also made the comments about sloppy seconds like a scorned lover or loser would)
Obtuse ~ 1.
a. Lacking quickness of perception or intellect.
b. Characterized by a lack of intelligence or sensitivity (Well.. thats Sean Avery All Right !)
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
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You Know FLYERS have had (hard to believe but true) some even odder and more outlandish goalies in their history. Cechmanek was as WEIRD as they ever come ! used to headbutt flying 90 mph frozen pucks with his mask. Wacky dude. Then there was Snow who used to wear Lacrosse Shoulder pads. Esche who looked like a homeless guy who used to wear rags for cloths and never shaved and drove a rustbucket Carbon Monoxide Beater.
I think we have seen allot in between the pipes in Philly.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
they actually had 5 guys and a bartender think this thru before the pic was taken
think about that.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
people planning out silly pictures man
think about that
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
I wanna know why the guy on the right is wearing two different colored socks, and the guy on the left is missing a sock. That’s the biggest mystery here to me.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
It’s a Beatles thing… the guy on the left is brain-dead and the guy on the right is just in a coma.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
they appear to be wearing one sock each from the same pair too
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I noticed that too. There’s a whole lot of strange going on in that photo.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
booze does curious and wonderful things to the mind
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 15, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well they say a picture is worth a thousand words… and it might require a thousand to explain the story behind the photo and everything going on in it.
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 15, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
I wanna know how you are the only one who noticed it .. till you pointed it out
you notice some weird stuff my friend
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Watching the FLYERS vs Habs 3-2 FLYERS so far
they are talking about Francophone players ?
Francophone is that like
Karaoke done by a guy named Frank ?
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
you make me laugh with one word.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
yes exactly, you got it, and anglophone is a guy who has a triangular telephone.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
is that like the Batphone ? I once had a Hexagonphone, yep, but E.T. kept running up my long distance bill with calling home so I had to cancel it and have it taken out of the house.
True story I tell you.
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
...
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 15, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
lol. ok, that’s at least moderately funny.
Frank-o-phone.
Oh Rob…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 15, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
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F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
what ? No Rec’s ? Tough Crowd here tonight !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Cheap American Beer huh ?
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
fuck the habs
also, fuck the canucks
it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.
Well put and agree my friend
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Canadians lose in regulation
4-3
LOL
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 15, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions
BOB you just won your first Start in December ! How does that make you feel ? any Comments ?
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Jesus, he looks like Sheldon Cooper there
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
how do you feel BOB ?
Bazinga !
F|73RR08 The fan and artist formally known as FLYERROB ~ I do not advocate to be the comments of any fan base or any NHL Team but rather my own individual self ~ if that upsets you - Sorry. ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad !
Canucks
lost to Carlolina
it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.
the definition of
El Oh El
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 16, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
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