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We've had a couple of days of breaking news. While the MSM completely missed the boat, birky broke the news that Justin Bieber wasn't just taking advantage of his popularity to skate with his favourite team but that he was being brought in to centre the top line between Phil Kessel and Joffrey Lupul. Tuesday birky used his sources to break the news of Colby Armstrong's battle with boneitis. As one of the premier proponents of the work for a cure, Rob Pizzo and Justin Bourne invited me onto the Backhand Shelf podcast to discuss what the average person can do as well as to discuss the state of the Leafs.

Topics:

* HBO's 24/7 episode two tonight - will we see the Pronger story unfold?

* Ratings were down for the show from season one. What the hell?

* Colby Armstrong hid his concussion from the Leafs

* Colby Armstrong has "boneitis," a (fictional) condition first explained on the excellent TV show Futurama

* Marcus Foligno made his NHL debut last night againsthis brother Nick

* Four-way tie atop the NHL scoring leaderboard. Guess who I think will win?

* Should the Habs hire Patrick Roy as their head coach? (No.)

More links after the jump.

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Teaching an old dog new tricks: I learn to play hockey

Danny Gray is learning to play hockey! Now his opinions on the sport are valid.

VINTAGE LEAF MEMORIES: The Habs, language sensitivities and an attempt at understanding

Michael shares a bit about how his family's background (and father's front-running) shape his thoughts on the Habs' language kerfuffle.

Wednesday Night Notes " Toronto Maple Leafs Hot Stove

Some good stuff from Alec in here including a Leafs-centric breakdown of the following link.

NHL Strength Of Schedule - On the Forecheck

Good news: The Leafs have played a decently tough schedule and done well and they have a pretty easy one the rest of the way.

Looking at the standings a year ago: the direction of every NHL team | Backhand Shelf

The Leafs are up 8 points over last season. Last season they missed the playoffs by 8 points.

Your official Backhand Shelf preview of the World Junior Championships | Backhand Shelf

WARNING: Ryan Lambert wrote this so while it is informative you'll probably want to stab him at some point.

World Junior Hockey Championship: Why Do We Care So Much? - SBNation.com

Basically, the USSR cheated the Canadians out of one gold medal so we decided to win basically all of them in the future.

Puck Daddy’s Top 10 shootout goals of 2011 - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Harrison Mooney has excellent taste in shootout goals.

KuklasKorner : VIDEO - Ryan Kesler Makes A Dirty Play In Retaliation To A Clean Hit

My favourite is either how he pretends he doesn't know what anyone is talking about post-game, how he pretends nothing happened on the ice, or he might not remember anything happening because earlier Niklas Kronwall jacked him up.

Special Teams Efficiency Update - The Copper & Blue

The Leafs' PP has been the team's saving grace, to an extent, which has mitigated the devastating impact of their incompetent PK.

Oilersland Vol. 2, Tambellini & Tencer Go to the Movies - The Copper & Blue

These comics are great.

How NHL decided controversial Avalanche goal vs. Blues - Puck Daddy

The refs could have also ruled that the Blues pushed the net off and the puck would have gone in if the Blues hadn't knocked the net off on purpose. Don't have time to look up the rule but I remember the Leafs having a goal called against them in a game against the Isles even though the Islander knocked the net off.

Watch Sharks score strangest, squirmiest goal of night (VIDEO) - Puck Daddy - NHL Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Boy, that 1-3-1 sure isn't what it is cracked up to be with an over the hill goalie.

Henry Aubin: Anglo coach a 'gesture of contempt'

Wah wah wah

Chris Selley: Montreal’s hockey politics aren’t unique

A more considered response than mine from a fellow Leafs fan.

The Kiss - 12.26.11 - SI Vault

This story was pretty good.

CanLII - 2011 ONSC 7297 (CanLII)

Tie Domi features in a lawsuit! As a witness I think.

Cold War Echo | The LeafsNation

A Russian is not impressed with John Steigerwald. Sidney Crosby is a vampire.

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Crabb is a 40 point player.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

Playing with 1 guy who never got 40 points and another on pace for 20!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The comments for Lambert’s blog are second only to the blog itself.

Up yours Aki Berg!

by Sknut on Dec 22, 2011 8:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

The real question is how is that not on the sleeping giant.

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"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."

by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha via Dreger

The Leafs were never really in on Kyle Turris. Word is, Coyotes wanted Nazem Kadri as part of return. Toronto has high hopes for Kadri.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 8:44 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Considering they pried Runblad out of Ottawa I’m not surprised they were asking for Kadri.

I’m not trading that kid unless it’s Weber coming back the other way

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya and originally they asked for Zibenijad straight up.

They clearly aimed high in their trade demands.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

And they should. If I was a Coyotes fan, I’d want my GM to try to extract as much as possible. But I guess the bidding didn’t get intense enough between teams that anyone felt compelling to pony up that much.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That much? Runblad is a great prospect. I would argue he is as good (or better) a prospect than Kadri.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Sens wouldn’t trade a 1st or Zibanejad. Leafs wouldn’t trade Kadri. etc. Teams weren’t willing to move their top prospects for Turris.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

because it’s an absurd price to pay for him, but hey, a GM’s gotta demand a lot.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorta like when you press the “trade” button in NHL and then regret it right after

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I would say Runblad was a pretty steep fucking price. Maybe Murray is just stupid or I am overvaluing Runblad.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Sens wouldn’t trade Zibanejad because he just got drafted. It’s a stupid reason but Zibanejad = new hotness Runblad = old and busted in Murray’s eyes

on top of that he threw in a second rounder. WTF

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not about the draft year, it’s about the Sens’ depth. You can say what you like about Karlsson, Cowen, and Brian Lee, but their forward prospect pool looks even more depleted with out Zibanejad.

But yeah, Murray paid a big price in a situation where Phoenix should have had barely any leverage.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldnt trade Nazem Kadri for Turris straight up, no fucking way.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad a lot more people are taking this callup a bit more rationally this time

I’m so sick of hearing “Toronto is so done with Kadri” or “Kadri clearly wants out”.

He’s a prospect who’s developing nicely. Leave him the fuck alone, he’ll get there.

The only other high pick we’ve developed in recent years was Schenn and Leafs rushed him. God forbid the Leafs take a different route this time. You know, one that 75% of other clubs take with their 1st rounders.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I hate those articles so much. The Buffalo media still seems kind of bitter that Miller spent the summer in LA so they suggest he should be traded to California pretty much every day.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Either Miller’s play has fallen off a cliff or he’s still hurting from his concussion. The Sabres fan in my office has been complaining about him all year

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

While Miller is having an off year I think people have undue expectations on him because of his Vezina year and US olympic team performance. He is a very good goaltender but I don’t think he is top 3 or anything like that.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In 2009/2010 he had a 0.929 which made everyone think he was a world beater when really it was just an incredible year from a good goaltender. Besides that he is a 0.913-0.918 goaltender which is an above average starter.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What is this “above average starting goaltender” thing you speak of?

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s about a .001 difference

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Since 05-06 where he played 48 games he has had

0.914, 0.911, 0.906, 0.918, 0.929, 0.916, 0.904

Career average is 0.914. That one year of 0.929 was an aberration.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Even Strength on-ice save percentages.

NAME GP Sv% PDO
ROBYNREGEHR 31 .945 1004
TYLERMYERS 19 .933 1016
JORDANLEOPOLD 29 .923 1008
BRAYDENMCNABB 9 .919 996
ANDREJSEKERA 32 15.6 .912 1012
CHRISTIANEHRHOFF 32 .907 988

As you can see, clearly the issue is SCREW YOU EHRHOFF.
(Also lol Robyn Regehr’s .945 on ice ESS%)

Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."

by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Ouch.

Random q for you what do you guys think of Sekera? I never hear him mentioned in a negative or positive light, but he got a pretty good salary this summer.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

They put him with Robyn Regehr and suddenly he’s a really good shutdown defenseman (i don’t know if that means good things about Sekera or just Robyn Regehr…). There are only two defensemen in the East i’d rather have carrying the puck up the ice. (three but Timonen is old and busted)

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"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."

by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. I had a feeling he may have been one of those “quietly good” defenders.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

In general, he’s an all-star with the puck… and frustrating without it.

Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."

by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I laugh when I read “trade Miller” articles. Buffalo doesn’t know what bad goaltending looks like. Other than from watching the Leafs of course.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

It really feels like they want to go back to Jacques Cloutier/Daren Puppa/Clint Malarchuk/Tom Draper land.

Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Free to roam the blueline.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."

by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that said, I’m excited to see what he can do during this call-up. In the brief clips of him I’ve seen, he looks to be doing really well with the Marlies. He’s got the talent to play in the NHL, he just needs to be smart about how he plays the puck.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i think kadri lights it up tonight, 1goal, 1 assist

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

I want to see nifty mittens. NIFTY MITTENS

by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 22, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I do love the nifty mittens. It’s 1/10th the reason I want him up here…just to call him nifty mittens.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

i would still like to see him as the setup man for grabbo and kuli

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I don’t disagree.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Mostly Kulemin. He’s more of a long-term piece I think, and I like his game. Also he’s on my fantasy team. Also we need a scoring second line.

by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Can’t wait for his first “nice” goal, I think it’ll be a weight off his shoulders. Toe drag to get in alone, dangle, roof backhand. That’s his bread and butter.

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You called?

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by Nifty Mittens on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

does anyone think he will get pp time?

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

He should get it. Play him on the right half boards on the second unit

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Could theoretically play him as a centre on the 1st unit. Lupul/Kessel/Kadri could be a dangerous PP unit.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Issue with that is Kessel controls the unit on the wall on that top unit. I would like to see Kadri in that same role with the second unit.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s gonna have to be smart with the puck if he’s playing the half wall, ie. know when to cycle it deep and not hold onto it too long until it’s a turnover.

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see Kadri as the guy down low by the red line, with Lupul parked out front. Kadri makes some pretty slick passes from that area, and I think with the set-up the Leafs currently have, that would work well. He’d theoretically have three options – back to Kessel, out front to Lupul, or across to Liles if he moves in.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Its amazing how the pp went from being revolved around Phaneuf to him being really a non factor anymore

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

To me Dion seems to have gotten back to his “roaming” around the ice a bit too much, it’s not a good look for him. With his shot he’s never really a non factor though.

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

RIght, but how often do they attempt the one timer now? Rarely do you see it. Hell he doesn’t even play the right side much anymore on the PP. JML ends up there a lot to sneak in for the backdoor pass

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not gonna complain, they’re top 5 in the league. Maybe when teams start keying on the Leafs’ down low plays on the PP, they can switch it up and go back to putting it in Phaneuf’s wheelhouse. Having multiple weapons is how you keep teams off balance.

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

JML has been great on the PP.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

He seems to have gone back to missing the net wildly though. Anyone else seeing that?

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

well i dont really see a weak link on our top 3 forward lines, the leafs shall win

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Um didn’t you forget the other half of the game (GA)? GF has rarely been a problem this year. But if Vanek and Pominville are on, who do we have that can stop them?

It was interesting watching the last post-game press conference with Ron W. (apologies if this has been over-discussed already). He acknowledged that the Leafs keep skating backwards under pressure instead of clearing the puck, which we’ve all come to know and hate. If the D can learn to clear the puck and we can get the forecheck going, we should have a good chance.

However we are missing a lot of the physical guys, so… hopefully our offence will trump theirs.

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i didnt think we were too bad even strength, up front anyway

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Hmmm I saw something different, but hey, it’s your opinion :)

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i figured kuli, frattin, bozak, connolly, mac and grabbo were all fairly responsible defensively

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I like Frattin’s physical game but I don’t know how much I trust him defensively.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he makes the occasional hard work back check, but it is the exception more than the rule, he isn’t bad by any stretch, but I wouldn’t call him a 2 way player just yet

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah he has the potential. He had the reputation as a 2-way threat in college. Just right now I think he gets the reputation of “defensive” or “two-way” when people actually mean “physical”.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would it be? Him, Connolly, and Grabbo? With Gunnar and Franson on the points? Or do they put Connolly and Franson on the points and put him with Grabbo and Kule/MacA?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i like that idea

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:37 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

connolly franson on point

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hello short handed goals against

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

is the lemon worth the squeeze?

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No. Not when you have Gunnar on the bench who can play PP time

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly, the Leafs have Dion, Gunnar, Liles, Franson and Gardiner who are actual defenseman who can QB the power play, no need to put a forward back there
one of Phaneuf and Gunnarsson should always be on either power play unit

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I completely forgot about Gardiner.

I feel like Franson, Liles, and Phaneuf are the best shooters.

Phaneuf and Gunnar are the best defensively.

That means Phaneuf on one and Gunnar with one of Franson/Liles.

That is at least how I would do it.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I like Phaneuf with Liles and gunnar with franson because it gives each unit a big shot

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

If anything the first one almost has 2. Liles shot isn’t as big as Phaneuf’s but he is a shooting threat.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, and gunnar can shoot too, which gives them more options, it’s the main reason i dont like Gardiner on the power play, he can pass and he can skate, but his shot, and shot selection needs a lot of work

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I want him to get a little time this year to gain some experience, but not much. In the long run I think he has the skills to be a PP defender so he needs some exposure.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

i like gardiner on the pp, hes got great vision, and if we get in trouble hes quick enough to get back

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

He is not fast enough to fix his over commitments. I prefer the more responsible Gunnar.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Gunnar doesnt offer much on the PP except a defensive eye. I think his focus has been on his defensive game, and he hasn’t really been an offensive threat IMO.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think his offense skill is suited to a second unit.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Gunnar is terribly under rated offensivly, he isnt exceptional, but he can pass, he can shoot, and most importantly, he can make the smart play
he isn’t going to run a creative system breaking power play from back there, but he is a very steady compliment to a risk taker like Phaneuf, Liles or franson

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you!

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This time you are agreeing with me!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree fully

I think he is actually the ideal partner to Phaneuf. Even if we get some huge upgrade on LS (like Suter), I think I would like him on another pair (at ES) so that we could have 2 great pairs.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Gunnar – Phaneuf
Sutter – Schenn

/swoon

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s an unfortunate typo.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you’re an unfortunate typo

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I dunno how you could resist the temptation of playing Suter-Phaneuf. Rocket of a shot, anchor for Dion to wander around on the rush, pairing would play 30 minutes a game…for Suter, it’d be like he never even left Weber’s side.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It would work against a team with one great line, but against a team with a one two punch? I’d rather the balanced line up.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Hehehehe.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Suter

(unless you were advocating for Darryl, then nevermind…)

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

true enough, whats the norm right now, franson, gardiner 2nd pp unit?

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 11:47 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

either or, not both

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

That is what I was thinking too. It is why I suggested both options. I would lean towards Gunnar/Franson.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you! I wrote a post on this a while back about how Kadri’s development route is NORMAL.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Nor would I. Kadri may end up being the better player. They have similar AHL numbers, and Kadri’s (very small sample size) NHL numbers are better so far.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri’s AHL numbers are better based purely on age of accomplishment.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri is already better player and prospect than Turris.

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Turris is not a prospect, he’s had several NHL seasons. Doesnt mean he’s peaked, but he hasnt shown me he’s worth a 1st rounder, especially not one developping as nicely as Kadri.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, in my mind he’s still a prospect because of that same fact. He hasn’t even begun scratching the surface. But still, that only means he hasn’t shown me a single reason not to agree with the second part of your post :)

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I would argue he is a prospect that was tossed into the league to young. The same way Tlusty was a prospect when we traded him.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

By that standard any young player is a prospect, I prefer the definition of junior/AHL player/first season or two NHL.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

and of course the AHL player would be a young one, not a career AHL/NHL tweener.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

It is not a hard definition. But its not like he has played so much NHL time. He has 2 65 game seasons.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d say a prospect is anyone under 22/23 who hasn’t yet established themselves as an NHL regular. Turris is kind of an edge case.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t have traded Kadri for Turris and a second.

Around here people were talking Bozak for Turis or Lombardi for Turris. Those deals I could have got behind. Kadri? Fuck that.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldnt trade Bozak for Turris either. If anything, that’s a sideways step, and why do that when your team is trying to get into the playoffs, and you have such a good relationship (on and off ice) between the top line players? Don’t mess with a good thing.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Its not sideways because of age.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy Holidays!

Since I’m going on my three day Christmas hiatus I just wanted to say it. Have yourselves a merry Christmas and happy holidays guys! Haver fun with the families and enjoy it. All the best from Croatia!

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Happy Christmas and Merry Boxing day to you, sir!

by spoonie on Dec 22, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Merry Xmas

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Habs are having a language rally at the Bell Centre on Jan 7.
/MontrealTypical
/insertRiotJoke

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

ugh

reply fail. The opposite kind.

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:44 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

What? Ok I understand the cultural phenomenon that are the Canadiens to the French speaking part of Canada, understand the history behind it but this is just funny and a little bit sad.

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Leafs are now about 51% odds to make the playoffs

down quite a bit… but still a coin flip

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 10:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

wtf Android app is reply failing like crazy

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 10:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

The app…

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Instead of posting a new comment

It seems to randomly select one and just reply to that

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 10:55 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Uh huh. Blame the app

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s a poor workman who blames his tools

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Merry Christmas MXJ. Enjoy the time with the family!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Sretan Božić

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by Eterrible on Dec 22, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Srecan Bozic part 2. Odmori se lepo.

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by Chuck Diesel on Dec 22, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

2 great lines from 24/7 last night

“beautiful women are like huskies”
“Montreal typical”

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 9:26 AM EST via Android app reply actions   1 recs

Bryz is priceless.

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he’s going to be a star of that show. Actually, his little universe shpeel was one of the smarter things I’ve heard a player say….actually considering one’s place in a vast universe? a hockey player? woah.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s humongous big!

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“Who is more crazy? Who is more weird?”

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I laughed about that one. A lot. An amusing combination of Bryz-crazy and self-awareness.

by LeafInVancouver on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

how

did i only just find out this morning that Justin Bieber is huge leafs fan? oh, yeahhh nevermind, it’s because i block out any and every mention of him.

...............................
Like right now, its like I'm very into the universe.

by OffTheChest on Dec 22, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Who? adhusdjh it’s all coming back to meeeee!

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Dec 22, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

whatever you do, don’t do a search for “Leafs” info on twitter.

...............................
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by OffTheChest on Dec 22, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t feel bad, his PR people only told him on Monday.

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by GreatKingRat on Dec 22, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Those were the days…

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess you would be happy with the Flyers in 7th.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d prefer it was a week later when the Sabres were 10-5. Which coincidentally, was Nov 8 and 11, the last two games the Sabres managed to ice the same lineup in consecutive games.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, yes I do.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s that? Speak up, leafer. It’s hard to hear you from so far up on the table.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Use of the word “table” in describing the standings outs you as a fan of some other non-sport like soccer or something.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Soccer owns, FYI

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

owns what?

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by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Flagged as Inappropriate and wrong

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by Eterrible on Dec 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, the guy likes soccer, so what? He’s right too. Soccer is amazing

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Eterrible doesn’t, so what? He’s right too. Soccer is not amazing.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Its more of the flagged as inappropraite part.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m mostly just being a dick.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

is that a fact or your opinion?

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Shut up onterrible boy.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m one of the “lucky” ones that got out of Onterrible.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

do you now see how horrible a place ontario is?

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

obviously, despite what every American i meet says about how great Toronto is.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Soccer is fine, but saying “it owns” implies it is better than hockey, which I can’t help but argue.

No I didn’t actually flag the comment, was about to though. And yes I was just being a dick.

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by Eterrible on Dec 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey Owns
Soccer Owns

it’s not a mutually exclusive situation

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d for truth

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I was right there with you for the first 1/3 of this comment and then it all fell apart.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree. Soccer is nowhere near as awesome as hockey.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Soccer basically takes hockey and doubles everything about it: the field, the number of players, the nets, the number of dives, everything. However, because of inverse multiplicity, it only produces 1/4 the amount of fun.

by MrSmithy on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It halves the goals.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about you, but one of the things that really defines the enjoyment of sports for me is how tense the game is. Victory tastes sweeter when you’re unsure if it will arrive until the final whistle/horn. Soccer has pretty much mastered this formula while also showcasing some of the best athletes in the world doing absolutely mind-bending things with and without a ball.

So yes, soccer owns.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I get really bored watching soccer. To be honest I would enjoy hockey more if there were a tad more goals (80s hockey would be more fun to watch).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I sincerely feel for you that your enjoyment of sport is driven by watching people be bad at it (like 80s defensemen and goalies)

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t watch it so I am just assuming I would enjoy it more. I do particularly enjoy the amount of scoring in lacrosse games. The Rock are really fun to watch.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

lacrosse is the only sport that is allowable in the sentence

is better than hockey.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

damn it. Forgot that the angle brackets get swallowed by html rendering. That should have said

{insert sport here} is better than hockey

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It is definitely not better than hockey. Just fun.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

no sport is better than hockey
there is hockey, and then there is everything else

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nothing is more true than this.

FACT!

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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To me the problem is that there just isn’t enough scoring in soccer for it to be exciting. Basketball is boring because there are dozens of scoring plays per game. Soccer is boring because there are so few scoring plays. Hockey and football are exciting because scoring is rare enough to be unusual, but frequent enough that in most games it happens several times.

Also, I think the fact that hockey and football are both games where great scoring chances can break out at almost any moment are a big part of what makes them so much fun to watch. Plus a great save in hockey is often nearly as much fun to watch as a goal; it’s also a great show of skill and athleticism.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing in your response implies to me that you’ve ever watched meaningful soccer. Especially this wonderful nugget:

Plus a great save in hockey is often nearly as much fun to watch as a goal; it’s also a great show of skill and athleticism.

You must love baseball, yeah?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Goals come rare enough in soccer, that I don’t expect them on any given shot, so I rarely feel any of that tension. Even when I arbitrarily pick a side to cheer for, all I feel is the want for that team to score a goal, not really the expectation. The contrast in hockey is that despite the fact that a shot is only going to go in 8-10% of the time, it feels like shots have a chance. Sure, there are chances and ones I know aren’t going in, and sure I laugh at the guy who edges forward in his seat for the soft, unscreened wrister from the blueline, but when you’re looking at two, three goals a game (total), and a reliable method of generating offensive opportunities comes from selling injury? Meh. Soccer at anything other than the highest (international) levels always feels more about endurance than possession to me, and any time I watch a game I feel like I’m enduring it more than anticipating the break. (Despite this, my heritage demands I add “viva l’inter!”)

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

dude!

one of us! one of us!!

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 6:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Two things owning at once is possible. Otherwise you sound like the Canucks fans I was talking to last night that couldn’t grasp that other players could be dirty AND Canucks players could be too AT THE SAME TIME

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by PPP on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

you should spend less time talking to canucks fans and more time around here WITH YOUR OWN KIND

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by daoust on Dec 22, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. I gave you a free pass there.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt its actually flagged

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by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I know this.
Its just that there is always someone who has to insult or put down the game here.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

its not really surprising. its the equivilant of 1967. lazy and no argument.

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by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

so it’s the Colby Armstrong of posts?

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s what my sister’s best friend who trains people to post says

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

so it’s a fact then.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if you accept that Crabb could hit 40 with Bozak and Frattin.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

who doesn’t accept that? Crabb doesnt even need Bozak or Frattin or anyone. Send him out alone, he’s a 40 point player!

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

do you even watch the games?

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

heh.

We’re You guys are killing it with yesterday’s new memes

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged: inappropriate

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by PPP on Dec 22, 2011 5:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Eterrible loves soccer. But Eterrible is from the former yugoslavia and no matter what country out of the 8 new ones he cheers for he knows they’re going to be a huge disappointment. So he just ignores his love for soccer now. At least, this is how I cope.

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by Chuck Diesel on Dec 22, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

soccer is so not amazing it actually sucks.

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by daoust on Dec 22, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have the one with the division standings pasted over Chara with the cup, too?

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 22, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, halcyon days...

… never as long as you want them to be.

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by Learn2Leaf on Dec 22, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha. i love the NHL.com article claiming that Saad had 5 points against Slovakia when he was playing Switzerland.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

what a saad article

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by Chuck Diesel on Dec 22, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Chag Sameach to all the other Jewish commenters (and lurkers)! Merry (early) Christmas and happy holidays too!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

And a fond Chaim Weisswasser to you!

I kid, I kid. As I’ll be in Ottawa over the holidays I will be spending much of my time at PPP so let’s crack the rum and egg nogg in this beotch.

by Jo4nny on Dec 22, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Why thank you, I love a good Sameach.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Some regression studies on the strength of schedule link show the Correlation (Rsquared) of
- Distance Travelled to Points (Point ) is -0.13
- The # of Back to Back Games to Point % is 0.12 (positive strange)
- Avg Opponents Win % to Points is -0.86

Distance and # of Back to Back games are not highly correlated with a team earning points so statistically they are not good “excuse” for the team’s performance.
But playing harder opponents is highly and inversely correlated with the points a team earns.

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Playoffs!!!!!!!!

Also regression analysis based on future schedule of opponent difficulty predicts
- The leafs end with 91.3 points or 11th overall.
- The leafs finish 5th in the conference and face PHI in first round
- The leafs finish 2nd in the division

Also the habs and senators don’t make the playoffs

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also the habs and senators don’t make the playoffs

I’m liking this analysis.

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Just what I asked Santa for

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by Eterrible on Dec 22, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

although facing PHI would result in a ass whoopin’.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless they bench their best goalie after game 2 like they did last year.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That GA-GF difference is humongous big!

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d take it. Rekindle the hate from the last time we were in the playoffs (sigh)
What would the most favourable matchup be? Panthers win the division and take 3rd, we end up 6th?

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The return of the “SouthLeast” division and the fact that the 6th place team used to be favoured in that first round matchup?

Yeah, I could live with that…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The conference is very “close” as shown by the bolded teams so luck will factor into the final order and is probably more a factor going forward. Also injuries and overachieving teams (Florida) will effect the “avg opponents win%” as well.

Team Expected Points
BOS 100
FLO 97
PHI 92
TOR 91
WAS 91
NYR 91
PIT 89
WIN 89
OTT 88
TBL 88
NJD 87
BUF 86
MTL 83
CAR 82
NYI 81

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Other bizarre predictions

Nashville a lottery team? Please send leafs Suter or Weber.
NSH 83
CAR 82
NYI 81
ANA 77
CLB 70

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Please send leafs Suter or Weber.

Leafs best chance of getting Suter involves the Predators holding on to him for a playoff run. We aren’t winning any league-wide auctions.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Because you liked Lebda so much, here is Dupuis for Suter!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Burke is magic!

don’t lose faith, he’s due for another impossibly one-sided trade right about the time the roster freeze is up

by SlickWill on Dec 22, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The Crabb – Datsyuk deal will blow all others out of the water.

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by Nifty Mittens on Dec 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Without Pronger they are beatable.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’d even call their defense fairly questionable at this point.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I would not. Timmonen is still one of the best in the game. Coborne and Carle are both very good and Mezaros is good (nothing special though).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I also have an (apparently incorrect) belief that Coburn is terrible. He’s terrible against the Sabres at least.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

the Flyers currently have one top pairing guy and 4 number 4 guys

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Carle and Coborne are both #3 guys. Carle is pretty good and is probably a #2 on most teams (not on a contender though).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I would gladly trade Gunnarsson for Carle.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I know in theory "anything can happen"

but IF they make the playoffs as a lower seed it would be a miracle to get out of the 1st round

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Good time of the year to be talking about miracles.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Just get in.

by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Incorrect.

winning a single playoff round as a lower seed, however, happens quite often.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

8th seed in hockey has never won the cup.

And unless an 8th seed wins, that will not change because after this year there won’t be any more 8th seeds.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 22, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So how long until Burke makes a trade once the freeze lifts on December 27? Let’s put the over/under at January 10.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Under.. I’m thinkin Jan 1 or 2.

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Does Burke’s freeze end that early?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

February 12th and it will be a doozy

by Jo4nny on Dec 22, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that your b-day or something??

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

My unsubstantiated prediction is that Ryan will be back on the trading block, if he isn’t already.

by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 22, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

So it’s a fact then ;)

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t figure out how trading Ryan would make any sense, even if they stay bottomfeeders all year. He’s not even 25 yet. Trade Perry and Getz if it comes down to it.

by lucc on Dec 22, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont know why they would do it either, but for whatever reason he appears to be the one to go. They’d surely re-stock their cupboards with a trade like that. Although Getszlaf – WANT.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

over

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Over

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

January 25th. The Leafs do a back to back against the Isles on the 23rd and 24th, then have 6 days before doing a back to back against Pittsburgh. Also, what the hell is with this schedule…

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Winnipeg would go nuts if the Jets make the playoffs in their first season back…

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… and reply fail

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

…So you’re blaming your phone then?

Ba-dum-tsh.

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by Ghostsof on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Good thing too because they won’t ever be making them again with the new division setup.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Keith Aulie will play tonite. Curious to see who comes out, my guess is Gardiner

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

has Aulie done much – good or bad – since his callup?

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 11:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No but I guess with back to back games they want to rotate someone in

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps the staff will sit Schenn to try and shake him out of his funk?

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

What funk is Schenn in?

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The funk that is him not playing as well this season as he did last.

disclaimer – haven’t seen much of the last three games, but many highlights of goals against were vs. Schenn/Gardiner. So Jared’s comment from below may be a more accurate representation of his play lately. Something is wrong with that pairing, they’ve been hurting us more than helping lately.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s been better than gardiner the past 3 games, people give Gards all the slack in the world and then blame schenn when he gets hung out to dry by gardiner

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess its because one is a rookie and one isn’t. That said, I agree with you 100%

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

right, he is “allowed” to make mistakes, but they are still his mistakes and should be noted as such

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They’ve both been pretty bad defensively, but Gardiner contributes more in the other two zones.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

right, but schenn has been covering Gardiners ass and being over streched, plus the other two zones arn’t where the Leafs are having issues right now

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair I think Gardiner covered Schenn’s mistakes (with his speed) often last month. But yeah Gardiner needs to be reeled back in.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah, it’s supposed to be a 2 way street, and when they were first paired together, it was, and they both looked very good, now Gardiner seems to be over confident a lot of the time and it sends schenn scrambling

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Schenn is this seasons whipping boy.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that is Dupuis and was Franson until recently. I felt like I was the only one calling for Franson to get a shot a while back.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

DOn’t strain yourself too much patting yourself on the back

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That is not what I was getting at (he is still only playing 15 minutes a night). What I am saying is that Schenn does not hold that spot exclusively and wasn’t even getting the attention until recently.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

you probably were, i think he has looked great out there, definetly a keeper if the price is right,

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If he doesn’t get more minutes he won’t be getting a big raise.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Komi’s out, right?

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Because his numbers are terrible against not great competition.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Perfect summation of Schenn’s career so far was seen on Monday night: Lays big check on Kings player behind the Leafs net, muffs clearing attempt and turns it right back over.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey how did you did you like the way Liles played the PK on Browns goal?

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

About as much as I like Schenn or Gardiner’s PK play

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You are so full of shit sometimes

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You do realize that Brown was Crabb’s man, not Liles, right?

Justin Bourne did a whole analysis of the goal here.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I saw it.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember the game against the Canes where you ripped Schenn for being terrible on one of their PP goals againt saying he was in no mans land and read the play awfully?
Look where Liles is. Look how he plays it.
EXACT SAME WAY.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s your point? I never said Liles played it correctly.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what Anthony Petrelli had to say about Schenn’s work on that specific goal by Poni:

Penalty killing is not rocket science, despite the Leafs best efforts to make it look like that. I don’t want to analyze their penalty killing too much because it seems that’s all I’ve been doing for about two months but I just want to point out and ask: where has the common sense gone? At the end of the day, you can breakdown, analyze, criticize and whatever, but if you aren’t thinking, it’s all for not.

- For example, on Ponikarovsky’s goal to tie the game, Jussi Jokinen gets the puck at the top of the circle, Luke Schenn steps up and puts his stick in the middle of the ice even though there’s no backdoor play in progress, and Gardiner is with Ponikarovsky in front of the net. So what’s that stick doing exactly? The only possible way it can contribute to the play is if Jokinen shoots and it deflects off his stick (which could be good or bad). So Schenn opens up an easy passing lane down low where Staal is positioned, Jokinen feeds it to him (which is where Schenn’s stick should have been in the first place) and Ponikarovsky ties the game.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

YOu love to jame Schenn’s faults down everyone throats. YOu dismissed Gardiner of havnig any fault on the Carolina goal. Yet right away you say its Crabb.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t say Gardiner was without fault. Search through my tweets if you like, its there. Brown was Crabb’s man. I didn’t absolve Liles.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Schenn is supposed to be some kind of big shutdown defenseman, or at least that’s what everyone keeps jamming down my throat. The problem is that he isn’t that player, never has been that player, and may never be that player. And I don’t know why the Leafs keep playing a slow defenseman (with no puck skills and who makes mental mistakes over and over again) big minutes.

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by birky on Dec 22, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Because he throws big hits!

Seriously though (from someone who does criticize him a lot) he actually has some puck skills (throughout his career he has done well offensively at ES) and he has been able to play a lot of minutes at a young age so hopeuflly he could improve. Frankly I want to get rid of him though.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

FOR SUTER!!!@!!!

Seriously though, there are quite a few guys I would want keep ahead of Schenn. Off the top of my head:

Kessel, Kadri, Colborne, Frattin, Kulemin, Bozak, Grabbo, Macarthur, Gardiner, Dion, Gunnarson, Reimer.

by samspade on Dec 22, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Grabbo bening dependent on resigning for cheap-ish.

by samspade on Dec 22, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be so high on Frattin or Bozak (really Bozak?). Frattin is already 23 and I don’t think his ceiling si all that high.

We are really high on him because he has looked good, but keep in mind he is on pace for 10 G and 20 points…

MacArthur is interesting too and you already explained why Grabbo is questionable (also keep in mind age).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It also isn't that I think Schenn will be terrible

It is that I think he probably has a higher trade value than my personal value for him.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys are like the yin yang of Schenn.

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by PPP on Dec 22, 2011 5:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We need another guy on the LS who can play the PK because right now we have LIles and Gardiner and neither is particularly suited.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone every said they liked Liles PK play?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant on that particular goal.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh okay.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I love how they’re the same age, but Gardiner gets so much more slack because of age.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Schenn plays right side, Aulie plays left. I doubt they’d sit Gunnar or Liles, so it’s likely Gardiner.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Henny saying they may be running 7 D because of steckels health being a question mark

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Because that worked so well last time!

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

running 7 D was never the issue for the Leafs

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it helped at all.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

now that they are relying on Boyce instead of Dupuis i dont mind so much

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don’t see the advantage really. Especially in a back-to-back I don’t want our top line guys getting tired by double shifting.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

probably more of a not having anyone they want to waste a call up on because they either need AHL time or are terrible

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

But I just don’t even see the advantage of having an extra D-man on the bench. They have their pairs stick to ’em.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

well better Aulie bench warming instead of orr or rosehill

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess…

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Phil != Mats

Call it what you will but that game seemed to really take a lot out of him

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I said Gardiner

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

or 7d

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 11:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Gardiner got benched for most of the 3rd last game, so yeah I’d say thats a fair guess. He’s been doing yeoman’s work though, logging 23+ minutes a night normally. Had some bad plays lately, though.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

he occasionally gets caught doing ‘cute’ plays leaving the zone from a forechecker and then its a doozy to get it out of the zone. needs to keep it simple and pass up instead of lead a rush from behind everyone.

by spoonie on Dec 22, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

No Miller tonight?

Henny is reporting it looks like Enroth is the starter tonight.

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obviously Sabres fans got their wish and? Miller is getting traded

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maybe colorado is offering up their 1st next year

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If the first goalie trade fails, try try again

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

worked for JFJ!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Luckily for me they can’t trade him: Holiday trade freeze is in effect for everyone now, not just Brian Burke.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s pretty obvious they have a trade in place and don’t want him getting injured

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 12:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Seems reasonable enough. Considering we can’t trade him for bobby ryan anymore, we’re clearly getting Thornton.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Shawn that is.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Team needs to upgrade its heart: Seven fourth liners not enough.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Besides you can all go to his sweet spa in Barrie.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll have some.

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by Redonred on Dec 22, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope the officiating is better in this game.

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

and of course...

Now Henny is saying Miller looks to be the starter… make up your damn mind.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Miller will and won't start!

Schrodinger’s goalie.

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That or due to lack of forwards we’re starting two goalies.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew that was too good to be true

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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 22, 2011 12:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

If we were any team but the Leafs (who’s number Miller seems to have) I would rather face Miller than Enroth.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We lost the last game 5-4, mostly because Phaneuf took a boneheaded major. Miller hardly looked solid

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

As well as a missed call that led to the Vanek goal.

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually thought that was a fine no-call but i’m a bit biased.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a bit.

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by Frag on Dec 22, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren’t all Flyers fans?

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They also make flawless arguments

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Based on the random capitalizations I believe you have found the Anti-FlyerRob.

The PENGUINSSTEVE?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

WTH?

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You clearly cannot comprehend the awesomeness of that fanpost.

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RESPECT PENGUINSSTEVE!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a pun? Also, good. I’m glad.

No one ever suspects the butterfly...

by Caleafornia on Dec 22, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This could be a blog in itself

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW I started watching the walking dead because a bunch of you were talking about it

I am really enjoying it

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excellent show

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doesn't get any better

expect 90% slow boring, and 10% awesome moments that are enough to keep you from dropping it

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I will grant you that Season 1 was better than what we’ve got from Season 2 so far (I was hoping for a different person to be the “big reveal” at the end of the cliff hanger episode), but still a quality show.

I’m liking where they have gone with some of the character’s development.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Shane fuckin owns

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Please don’t put any spoilers in. I am on the last episode of season 1.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoiler: Everyone dies in act 5. /Shakespeare’d

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoiler:

That Zombie Is actually just a living person in Zombie makeup.

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

What a twist!

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

humping robot comes in and humps everyone to zombiedom.

by spoonie on Dec 22, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Director: M. Night Shyamalan

Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.

by Saucepass on Dec 22, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was very scrupulous in avoiding any since I didn’t know where you were at.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you sir. Considering I am done class in less than 24 hours and I do not celebrate Christmas, I have a feeling I will be up to date by Tuesday.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck Kesler and the Canucks

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by LeafFan1989 on Dec 22, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

fuck the canucks, not kessler, i have him in my hockey pool

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No fuck Kesler

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by Redonred on Dec 22, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he may be a good player statistically, but he's a whiny jerk.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

any one hear him this morning on the Kronwal hit?

I liked the hit, but I don’t like how he didn’t answer the bell up for himself after!

what the fuck? so was it a clean hit or was it a dirty hit that he didnt pay dues on after?
fucking twit

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that makes no sense.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait did Kronwall hit Kesler or Kesler hit Kronwall?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Kronwall hit Kesler.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and then Kesler wanted to fight about it

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by LeafFan1989 on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, he ass dived at Kesler, it looked hilarious

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He left his feet.
Also no mention of how he tried to take out Zetterbergs knee as well.
In short, fuck Ryan Kesler

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

oh it was a dirty hit, but Kesler calling it clean and then demanding he fight for a clean hit is fucking stupid

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT IT IS THE CODE11

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that the self-destruct code?

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

and hilarious as Kesler ended up taking the penalty and gave the Wings a PP (not that it did any good since Edler scored)

by Chi-town leafs on Dec 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Every time I see Kronwall make a hit I forget how small he is.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

every time i see one i am amazed he never gets suspended for charging every fucking time

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

He comes off his feet on every hit. He hits like a mac truck.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

he jumps into 90 percent of his hits, his timing is very very good so it looks clean on the ice, but he fucking jumps almost every time

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i would love to have kesler in a leafs jersey, especially at 5 mil per season

by power-forward on Dec 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

From the Backhand Shelf standings article:

Biggest Drops:
Columbus (-15)
Anaheim (-13)
Tampa Bay (-10)
Colorado (-9)
Carolina (-8)

I genuinely feel bad for Columbus, let’s get Happy Trails back, HAHAHAHA Yzerman is a former red wing and genius, that fourst line better start picking up their play, good for them, they still exist.

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by Redonred on Dec 22, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Seems like its been a long wait in between.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

..AAAAAAND the remainder of a world jr pre-tourney game afterwards. WIN WIN!

by spoonie on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

lol habs fans.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Why this time?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

probably the “protest” they’re scheduling for Jan 7th.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

At the rate they’re going, they might have another coach by then. lol. Or maybe another GM. If he doesn’t speak French either, wow will there ever be an uproar. lol…

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by LeafBoy on Dec 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The Cunneyworth doesn’t speak French protest isn’t particularly lol-worthy but their grievences are.

OH NO WE DONT HAVE A MONOPOLY ON FRENCH-CANADIAN PLAYERS EVERYONE PROTEST

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Among the "issues"
  • the Winnipeg Jets prevented their assistant coach Pascal Vincent to grant interviews in French.
  • the background music broadcast at the Bell Centre is in English
  • Arena announcements are made in English as well as French

Unsurprisingly, they protest at a game against Lecavalier that player those evil anglophones trapped in florida rather than Quebec where he rightfully belongs.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just dynamite that giant waste of oxygen known as Quebec off the contininent yet and annex the maritimes?

That’s how these things work right? like Hawaii?

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t heard about that Jets thing.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

this HAS to be a joke of some kind...

I mean… no… no, the more I think about it, they’re probably serious about it. That’s so tragic. Yet SOOOOOOO funny.

by SlickWill on Dec 22, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Since when do we need a reason?

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NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZEM KAAAAAAAAAAAADRI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOY JJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNSS!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Leroy always gets a Rec

by Jo4nny on Dec 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I forgot about that meme

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by Chuck Diesel on Dec 22, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

This is great publicity for quebec politicians to generate support for why public funds must be used to support the Nordiques arena. Too much a stretch?

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

With this Habs nonsense

One of the most ridiculous things is that they complain about the lack of French Canadians and Quebecois in the organization and Serge Savard goes out and says the “team belongs to the people”. Yet when the team went up for sale (twice), no French Canadian came up to buy it. They even let an American buy it. If they want it to belong to the “people” maybe someone from the “people” should have bought it…

Also it is a slap in the face (I don’t really mind them getting slapped in the face) to all of the English fans.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

hey now! no team should be able to draft a Quebecois player before the habs get a shot at him! no matter what!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

only if toronto gets first dibs on the GTA players of course

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting thought: if they had territories still, Crosby would be a Hab and Giroux and Tavares would be Leafs

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

How exactly did those territories work anyway? Did we just have first shot at them? Or were they automatically ours?

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They were automatically yours unless you decided you didn’t want them.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCKIN MOTHER FUCKERS

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Blame Clarence Campbell and by definition Colin Campbell as well.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

also:

Clarence Campbell made a controversial call in 1939 when refereeing a game involving the Toronto Maple Leafs when defenceman Red Horner was struck with a stick and Campbell doled out only a minor penalty, even though Horner was bleeding. Leafs owner Conn Smythe called for Campbell not to be rehired, and the league agreed.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

MOTHER FUCKERS

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/5/10/1462755/bad-history-and-bobby-orr

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

What happened with that series of posts? And I guess 1967ers in general?

I always really enjoyed reading them.

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by derbyguy on Dec 22, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Gimme GTAers!

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I think there may have been some sort of numerical limit but it was so high it wasn’t relevant.

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I’d be pleased with one a year, very very pleased

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Sask. would get some good players too.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad they dont have a team

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

according to the CBC we belong to the Jets :S
Fucking CBC

by SlickWill on Dec 22, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nash, Giroux, Skinner, Tavares, stamkos, Doughty, Seguin, Duchene,
etc etc etc

yeah

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would OTT end up with? Subban and Spezza? lol.

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Subban is from North York I think. At least that is where his dad teaches.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiki says he was born in TO and that Spezza was born in Mississauga.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Jane and Finch what what.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, toronto kid, rexdale specifically

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

ottawa gets derek roy, marc savard, ben eager and brendan bell

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

REXDALE WHAT!

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

His dad used to be the principal at the public school behind my house

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t the principal anymore?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at that school. He was in the news not too long ago actually

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh okay, because I know I had heard he was a principal pretty recently.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Brookview middle school

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

But wait wait, it’s based on hometown? or where they play major junior?

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure it’s location born

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm, I thought it was major junior… which is why i said the sens would get subban and spezza. Belleville is senstown.

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was where you were playing juniors but i think those junior teams had geographic precedence.

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by Ubiquitous on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

There must have been terrible protests and riots when Dick Irvin won 3 Cups and Al Macniel won his Cup as coach of the habs.

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

More cups have been won by anglo coaches than Francophone coaches.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Is this league wide or just in Montreal? Because the one seems obvious, while the other would be the height of irony.

by MrSmithy on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal. Let me find it.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

3 of the 24 cups were won by francophone coached teams

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Even Nordiques used a few anglophone coaches

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Just in Montreal I’m pretty sure.

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Looking forward to Birky’s exclusive interview tomorrow with Price after receiving word that Habs fans demand him and other angloplayers be traded.

by jeffgm on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Haven't you heard?

Price (from Vancouver) will be traded for Luongo (from Montreal).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

the they have any florida born players they can trade for Lecavalier?

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless some snowbird had a kid in Florida I doubt there are much (if any) Fla born players.

And yes, I know, that was the joke.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Just checked

No current NHLers. But Dallas Eakins was born in Fla.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

so we can trade him for Stamkos, right?

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If we could trade organizational staff we would get the best roster in the league!

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a whole new advantage for all our “depth” right there.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If I’m Vancouver, frankly I do that trade

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by T is for Truculence on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously. Get a roughly 8 year younger goalie? I would rather Luongo over Price at the same age, but the gap is just so huge (let along Luongo’s contract length).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That shouldn’t be a controversial opinion at all.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Therefore it should not be a controversial fact at all.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Luongo is and has been the better goalie. The only reason you make that trade if you’re Vancouver is to get out from under Luongo’s contract.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s a pretty good reason.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Even without the contract I probably do the trade purely for age. There is an 8 year difference.

But with that contract I definitely do that trade.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If I’m Vancouver’s GM, I know that the Sedins aren’t going to be this good for much longer, and that the rest of my team’s is probably not going to get any better. Aside from Luongo’s contract, which I admit is an albatross, why would you risk your limited Stanley Cup window on a goalie downgrade to make sure the team is better in the future, especially when you’ve also got Schneider on the roster?

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I may be of a different mind about this than most people around here, but I think sometimes a GM has to recognise that his team is in a limited window and should be willing to sacrifice some long term stability for those little edges that put you over the top.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they could do just as good with Price as with luongo
but I see your point

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree with that, I just don’t know that Luongo is better than Price today.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Over the last two seasons they have been pretty damn close. I just don’t know if it is necessarily a down grade.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

But yes

I agree that you have to know your window when you are close and that people around here obsess to much about age.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Because if we’re really talking about a 1-for-1 swap, I think the relative gain in cap flexibility and the extension of your cup window (due to age in net) is worth the relatively slim downgrade you take on SVP. Then, if you really want to double down, you move Schneider and the other long term assets available.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that at some point you need to sacrifice the future for the “now,” but I don’t think a 1-for-1 swap of Luongo and Price would abandon (or prohibit) that strategy for the Canucks.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

Over the the last 2 seasons (including last years playoffs)

Price has 2987saves in 3241 shots for a 0.9216 save percentage
Luongo has 2803 saves in 3040 shots for a 0.9220 save percentage.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

why does Montreal make this deal? Its so stupid for them? They’d need a pick or something in it for them to take on that behemoth of a contract.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It never happens. It was a joke because of where they were born.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

they take it for some bullshit language reason, or because they are insane

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Because there aren’t enough Quebecois players in net. And that’s an affront to the great Montreal tradition. Even if it comes at the expense of winning, Montreal should always have a Quebecois goaltender, at that goalie should be able to communicate in french when the fans are mercilessly boo’ing the only player putting in an effort.

Either that, or because Gauthier wants to end his tenure by saying “fuck you guys, I’m out,” while dropping the mic.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

last 3 years playoff percentage
Luongo 913, 928, 913
Price 912, 923, 914
huh that is pretty damned close too

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean regular season, but yeah.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

oops, yeah, looking at the wrong page
price was fantastic last year with a 934 but a 890 and 878 the previous two
Luongo 914, 895, 914

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries. The point is that with Price entering his prime and Luongo leaving his they look to be roughly equivalent in ability at this stage of the game.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Sooo my wife won Christmas today

Got me lower bowl tix for Leafs @ Canucks! First time I’m going to see them live.

by LeafInVancouver on Dec 22, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

Do your duty to remind everyone around you how many scumbags play for the Canucks

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s something I do on a daily basis.

by LeafInVancouver on Dec 22, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

hey i should be going their too my brother in law and father in law are taking me for the second time. A perk of marrying into a canuck family.

I win though because there daughter is now a leaf fan living in Mississauga!

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by Juggy Gilmour on Dec 22, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, you do win.

I’m sitting in section 121, row 24, behind the home goal, so I fully expect to have a good view for the three hattricks Kessel will undoubtedly score.

by LeafInVancouver on Dec 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like good seats.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

seats sound sweet man

i’ll let you know what seats i get when i find out.

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by Juggy Gilmour on Dec 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

hey i should be going their too
I win though because there daughter

This looks like a job for a grammar Nazi.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

why was they’re something wrong with the grammar?

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grammer*

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

i don’t care for grammer.

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by Juggy Gilmour on Dec 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

True story: I took a grammar course in high school, had an awesome teacher and got addicted. My marks went from mid 70s to upper 80s/mid 90s. All of my teachers made remarks saying that my writing had improved dramatically. I rode this success through university, where I have just earned my Master’s and am set to start my PhD next year. In a very real way, grammar changed my life. Ignore it at your own risk.

by MrSmithy on Dec 22, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

app won’t let me rec but if I could I would

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True story. Fuck grammar.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

things bad grammar has cost me
10 percent of my english mark in highschool
that is all

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Things not caring about grammar has cost me:
Nothing.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad grammar can easily cost you a job. Plenty of companies will simply throw out your application if your resume or cover letter has grammatical errors in it, especially if there’s lots of competition for the position.

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by Draglikepull on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah I would absolutely do that. Need a reason to throw a resume out of a giant pile? Try misspelling words or using improper grammar. Done, out of the pile.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Mmhmm. I take time with my resume and would never submit one without getting a second opinion (and not only for grammar) anyway. But regardless, it has cost me nothing.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

especially if your job is to be a proofreader or editor, or copy writer.

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If pharmacists can read my hand writing they can definitely figure out poor grammar

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

you don’t really need grammar to wrie

psychoproflacticoblinistine 49mG

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone that needs to read that in Bcapps writing would likely eat all the drugs within an arms reach rather than try to decipher it.

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t know why i didn’t round that out to an even 50, maybe Bcapp is that accurate with his perscriptions

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by thenumber14 on Dec 22, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

50 might be to much for them too take.

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by GreatKingRat on Dec 22, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s just your opinion.

Show me the stats …

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Instant rec. I attribute writing skill to a lot of my success in undergrad and now master’s. I’ll be heading down the PhD path in the future as well. Just out of curiosity, what program are you in?

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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m in philosophy, with a focus on the ancient Greeks. I started at York and am on to Guelph next year.

by MrSmithy on Dec 22, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

What did Kelsey ever do to you?

by GettinGiggy on Dec 22, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Or spelling, apparently.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think YOU won Christmas good sir

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I like this android app. finally I can jump in and chirp opposing teams on the go.

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Anyone else

going to point out that PPP is a day behind for 24/7?

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it aired last night didn’t it?

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Siegel with an article on secondary scoring

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Goals have been in short supply for Kulemin, but he’s gotten the job done since joining the penalty-kill, which remains a real source of concern for the Leafs (still 30th overall). The 25-year-old has been on the ice for only four powerplay goals against in over 36 minutes, mostly alongside Connolly.

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by Redonred on Dec 22, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Question about the Habs coach thing

Would they be happy if he was an Anglophone who spoke French (learned it in college or playing in the Q or something)? Or do they want a Francophone in there?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

most “reasonable” ones just want french speaking so they can converse with the media and public

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

To be honest I can understand that. But caring about his background or some nonsense like that is ridiculous.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i can understand it too, but it is still something that should be a bonus, not SOP

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

true fans just want the best coach, player, GM available. if cunnyworth gets an extension he’ll be taking lessons if he’s not already.

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by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 4:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

which is why I am so fucking sick about the “american Leafs” crap

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont care if our whole team is made up of Kazakhs, if they can win me a cup and play an interesting game I’m happy!

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if it is even above the league average.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

people include the coaching and management and play the “they bring in americans because they are american!” crap

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a question for the board

Where was Wilson born?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct

Windsor Ontario. He is a duel-citizen born in Canada. This is one of the big Americans that concerns us?

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

but….but…but…..AMERICA! Ahhhhhh!!!

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Duel-citizen

Does he prefer pistols or swords?

by TheCeej on Dec 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

nunchucks

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The best kind of citizen.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t looked into it, but given the sheer number of people involved, aren’t there also a fair number of Canadians involved in those aspects as well?

by SlickWill on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

oh probably, Nonis is from BC, Dudly is from toronto etc
but the MAIN guys are the issue!
or something

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the two main guys are born in Ontario but we don’t care because we are too stupid to look it up (and idiotic mittenstringers love spinning a story which this fact would go against).

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is too stupid to look it up. Majority of us knew he was born here. He moved when he was 12 and has represented USA for hockey events.

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by leafer1984 on Dec 22, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

HE WAS AMERICAN COACH AT OLYMPICS!
RABBLE!

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t mean people on here. I meant the people who Jared are referring to.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s as bad as if we had a Swedish captain. Imagine if that happened here?

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I was close to kicking my brother in law out of the car on Tuesday when he started with the American crap

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on my phone i have a list of all the leafs, who brought them in, and their nationalities
I also have a list of the players Burke has shipped out and their nationalities
it is a shutter upper

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I still don’t know why its a concern except for this significant chunk of the Canadian population that’s – for some reason – ashamed we’re so similar to Americans, and have some sort of an inferiority complex. It’s bizarre. I mean, look at France and the Netherlands – they’re totally different. Canadians and Americans are different but by and large we consume the same media, almost the same foods, cultural content (music, movies, etc.) its so ridiculous to get so angry about nationality.

Besides like I said I dont care where someone is from, if they want to play here, do a good job, and play their hearts out – do it, we want you.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I should get one of those.

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by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 5:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

For sure. I would be a little annoyed if some KHL phenom came in to coach who couldn’t speak a word of English. But if he was good my excitedment would over shadow any annoyance. Especially if he was taking lessons.

Also it wouldn’t be such a big deal to toss a translator into a press conference.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

the difference is us anglos are a vast majority in north america. I think this protest and the extreme nationalist views on this are stupid, but I think asking your coach to speak french in Quebec is not an extreme demand. They appear willing to accept less qualified candidates to do so, so all the power to them. Lose with a francophone coach.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe Antropov could coach after his playing days

by hardfoot57 on Dec 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I would not be annoyed at all if he won the team games, if the language barrier hampered the team and caused them to lose it would piss me off though

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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it. these are the hardcore language police. they’d probably protest Scotty bowman.

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It looks like 6 d-men

At least that is what this article from TSN seems to say

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Scott MacArthur is reporting that Gardiner is a healthy scratch, and Steckel is in the lineup.

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by Bower Power on Dec 22, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

think it’s time for Gardiner to sit one. Let him watch one and get a fresh perspective. Helped Schenn out this year and last.

by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And there is hte confirmation.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Child abuse, Cheap father or Family member?

I was at a Marlies game recently with my son and saw a 8-10 year old wearing a Toskala Jersey. Unless he is related that is cruelest father or a very inventive punishment.

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you may want to report him to children’s services.

by Goosemonster on Dec 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

For Christmas last year my now ex-grilfriends mother bought be a Vesa Toskala shirsey. At the time I was driving forklift for a company that dealt in a product called “Carbon Black” which got all over everything and stained everything as well. Knowing I couldn’t very well burn the shirt, I took it to work the next week and had it essentially destroyed in no time flat. I told my uncle in law at the time (A huge Leafs fan) and he said “That’s God’s work you are doing my boy”

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by Ghostsof on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If only we could have taken the actual Toskala and done the same thing…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You put my on a forklift anywhere near Toskala and we’re about 5 seconds away from a Toskala-ka-bob

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by Ghostsof on Dec 22, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I read what your uncle said in an Irish accent for some reason. Is that weird?

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by Juggy Gilmour on Dec 22, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Ex uncle, and the I do believe the “…My boy” is what sold it.

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by Ghostsof on Dec 22, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

okay soccer is great and the argument goes on and on and on and on.

let’s discuss something more urgent:

Fuck the sabres.

August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.

by elseldo on Dec 22, 2011 5:32 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Except that soccer isn’t great. ;-)

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 22, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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by PPP on Dec 22, 2011 5:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

ending of the Hotspurs game was nuts today.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Dec 22, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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