Our Home and Native Land
by birky on Dec 26, 2011 2:26 PM EST
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Print2012 World Junior Hockey Championship
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GO CANADIAN TEENAGERS GO!
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Dec 26, 2011 2:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GO CANADIAN TEENAGERS GO!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 26, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GO CANADIAN TEENAGERS GO!
by Brit Selby's Love Child on Dec 26, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GO CANADIAN TEENAGERS GO!
well, that escalated quickly
by aelanK on Dec 26, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GO CANADIAN TEENAGERS GO!
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 26, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GO CANADA GO!
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- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go American Teenagers Go!
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
what?! no, I'm Candadien just like you guys.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
FUCK THE CANADIENS!
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
Check out my art!
by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck Boston the world?
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 26, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’M NOW OLDER THAN ALL OF THESE KIDS AND CAN FEEL MY YOUTHFUL EXUBERANCE DRAINING AWAY BY THE SECOND
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
THEY ARE ALSO MAKING MORE MONEY THEN US
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Dec 26, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OT
Marlies blow a 3-0 lead and are now down 4-3 in the 2nd period.
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- Niels Bohr
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Also OT...but awesome
43_Kadri Nazem Kadri
@echriqui forget the lakers jersey how bout a leafs one? #bluenwhite
Kadri telling Emmanuelle Chriqui (Sloan from Entourage) to get a Leafs jersey
by ShahofToronto on Dec 26, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Well she did grow up in the GTA, Kadri is right
by ShahofToronto on Dec 26, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Canada wins 4-3
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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I’m not high on Visentin in the net.
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- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Same. Good guess, I’ll say 6-3 Canada.
by holymackinaw on Dec 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think this should be a problem because its legal...........
Is the TSN website stream available outside of Canada?
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
it doesn’t seem to be working for me, so maybe not?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Hyvää joulua!
Canadiens are so selfish, hogging all the great hockey coverage to themselves.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
indeed. i have to right to see my poor team to get their ass kicked!
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Hyvää joulua!
by sleza on Dec 26, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
FYI
It’s spelt Canadians not the other way that shitty team from Montreal spells it.
"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
by BlueBuds on Dec 26, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, Im confused, I thought that was Canada, I mean the way Montrealians talk.........
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
TSN stream available outside of Canada but not in English.
At one of those evil illegal streams that you need to Google to find. Am watching now very far away from Canada. Sigh.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 26, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
You need a Canadian IP address for it to work.
by Brit Selby's Love Child on Dec 26, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Christopher Gibson?
Doesn’t sound Finnish.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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GOAL!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 3:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GOAL!!!
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
by jaysfan100 on Dec 26, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Reimer should have had that, wait..........
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is it me
Or is the sound a bit off?
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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No, it’s definitely off for me too
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
It is like 3-5 seconds off
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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This
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
Na your right it's off
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
well, that escalated quickly
by aelanK on Dec 26, 2011 3:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 3:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wait, a finnish player with the name Gibson? What the heck?
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
Christopher Gibson
Probably the least Finnish name I’ve ever heard for a Finnish person.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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I thought it was John Gibson?
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Huh
Someone check this dude’s passport
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
yeah… i think NA can have him. he doesn’t seem to be that good at catching pucks
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Hyvää joulua!
So you're saying he's a Finnish version of James Reimer, but with an American name?
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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Should be Gibsonkinen
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
wow, settle down Canada, lets not embarass Finland here.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
by Diamondback15 on Dec 26, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GOOOOAL
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
by jaysfan100 on Dec 26, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I have to mute this until they fix the sound
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
Where are we watching from here? I’m in the GTA and am experiencing no problems.
well, that escalated quickly
Cambridge
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Oakville
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
Sound is better now
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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Another penalty
Canada has to be careful
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- Niels Bohr
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Love how Huberdeau falls on the Finnish player trying to draw a retaliation penalty.
by holymackinaw on Dec 26, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Finland could “Finnish” around the net this would be a tie game.
(Thank you, I’ll be here all game. Try the fish).
by Brit Selby's Love Child on Dec 26, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Edmonton overhead view oh god my eyes are burning it’s so ugly
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Finland reminds me of the Leafs in this game at EV. Run and gun style of play.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
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What's the "Maatta"?
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Määttä of fact
I don’t have a Finnish keyboard.
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Erg
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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GOAL
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don’t think we’re allowed to post streams anymore
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I suppose I should have read the big bolded text at the bottom of the header text.
by GBeaton on Dec 26, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It kinda pisses me off that Mark Stone is a Sen pick
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
Like him as a Canadian
Hate him as a Sen
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- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
6th rounder, pure l luck
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 26, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I know, he had something like 29pts in 38 games in his draft year, then he exploded for over 100
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 26, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, Josh Nicholls is better
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 26, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Fuck the Sens.
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- Niels Bohr
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by Frag on Dec 26, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is one of the Finnish players names Haagen Dazs?
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pretty sure that not… but if is, please keep boudreau away from him
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
Hyvää joulua!
by sleza on Dec 26, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
He’ll really chew him out.
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
by Caleafornia on Dec 26, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I heard he’s actually from Brooklyn.
/foreign branding
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Dec 26, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Too much man
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- Niels Bohr
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‘Chelsea Dagger’ being played in Edmonton after that sixth goal? What the? Oh, game in Edmonton. I forgot.
Dougie Hamilton scored. Canadians happy. Bruins fans happy. What is better?
Brendan Gallagher scored. Canadians happy. Canadiens fans happy? What is better?
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
7-1 Canada.
Get yer shit together Canada!
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Oh. Thats' it.
Something like Philthy if he doesn’t score at least a point in each and every game he plays?
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 26, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Slump buster.
8-1 Canada.
Nice snipe for sure.
That awful Chelsea Dagger tune played again after that goal. Do the Edmonton arena music guys not know that is one of their enemies goal celebration goals? I find it very irritating.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Goal celebrations 'songs'. Excuse me.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
so Canada won ? Of Course ? ! Pssshaaww !!
Canada Juniors are an awesome team this year.
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Great start for Canada.
Dominating performance.
Take a converted TD win and celebrate! Way to go guys!
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Ya but Visentin couldn’t even shutout Finland.
We’re fucked.
/mostlyjoking
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 26, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Helluva shot beat Visentin for the Finns one goal. Not tested too much in that game though.
Five goal third period given up to the Russians in last year’s gold medal game a going concern regarding Visentin for sure. He has a lot to prove when these games really start to count.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Agreed. Fwiw, last year the whole team imploded. He just was the guy to bail them out.
Cheering for Latvia. It’s on tsn2. I’ll be up all night watching these games
by spoonie on Dec 26, 2011 6:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Latvia! GOAL!
Yay Riga! 4-3 Sweden in the second. Latvia just scored. Outstanding.
Sweden gonna miss Landeskog and Larsson for sure. Still a very dangerous team of course. Got a guy named Rask in their lineup and a whole slew of other names possibly related to current NHL’ers.
spoonie Visentin definitely should have bailed out his team last year with the gold on the line. Am a little surprised he was chosen by Hay as the starter today, and looks to be the guy for Canada at least so far.
Dammit! Sweden just scored. 5-3 Sweden.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Nice PP one time blast by Zibanejad. Damn the Hens to the pit for letting him go – or maybe not?!
6-3 Sweden.
Gustafsson in nets for Sweden. Could he be related to Bengt of 70’s Capitals infamy? A Sundstrom spotted, a Forsberg spotted for Sweden. And others. Gotta hit Google to see if these guys are related to former NHL’ers.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Patrick Kaleta.
Human garbage. What a cheap cheap dirty little trip he just laid on Ovechkin in the Caps-Sabres game in Buffalo.
I sincerely hope the Karma Police get him one day. “This is what you get when you mess with us.” Your day will come Kaleta you dirty little bastard!
Same with Yappy Lappy a.k.a. Maxim Lapierre with Vancouver. Karma cops comin’ after you two – I hope.
Wow! Buffalo scores again. 4-0 Sabres. Ugh!
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Ulf Samuelsson Hall of Shitbag Shame.
Lapierre.
Kaleta.
Clutterbuck.
Cooke.
Hhhmmmmmmmmm. Who else? Plenty of others. Anyone care to add their personal ‘faves’ for this Hall?
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Carcillo.
I’d add Carcillo to this list but I kinda like him because he is from Toronto. Hhhmmmmmm. He makes the list anyway.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
I was born and raised in Sarnia, and Daniel Carcillo is the only Sarnia Sting player that I have ever hated with every part of my being. Unbelievably, my hate of him has increased since he’s been in the NHL. He’s just a consummate scumbag with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 26, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Carbomb.
Flyers fans charming nickname for him when he was with Philly. I wondered if Quenneville, Toews and the gang in Chicago would be able to rein in his shitbag tendencies. I don’t know if they have.
Sarnia loves their rough and tough hockey. Tells me a lot if you loathed and loathe him that much, well, then he definitely has to go into this ‘Hall’.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Know what else I loathe? When people don’t use the reply button. ;)
Riding the Leafs bandwagon since 1991.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Dec 26, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t do that? My bad. :) Sorry. :)
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
by Pyramid Power on Dec 26, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Avery?
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Throw Subban on the consideration list, but he is so talented and from Toronto.
He’s working his way towards this hall though in my opinion.
Scored easily the most clutch goal of the playoffs last year tying the Bruins in the waning seconds of Game 7 in Boston down a goal to send it into OT. Almost killed me. lol
Thank the hockey gods for Nathan Horton winning it in OT, and eradicating the pestilence known as the Montreal Canadiens.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
Claude Giroux
Who are you? Who sent you?
Wow! Just scored the tying goal in Dallas to make it 1-1. At least he is from Ontario. Hearst.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
OOPS!
Stream kicked me over to a previous game. Another bad. Better vacate here.
Loathing the Habs with every fibre of my being since 1963.
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