Oh Boy. Just What I Always Wanted.
by JP Nikota on Dec 6, 2011 7:05 AM EST
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More games against the Florida Panthers and Tampa Bay Lightning? What the hell!?
Plenty of links today about last night's game, but naturally, a lot of chatter is about the realignment. Quoth Bettman:
"Frankly it's not the seventh and eighth teams that are competing for a playoff spot," Bettman said. "When you look at the map of North America, it's not geographic perfection so we're looking for something that makes the most sense and most fans and most clubs as comfortable as possible."
It's not the end of the world, but I think a reorganization to accommodate Winnipeg didn't have to be such a complete overhaul.
Leafs Links:
Phil Kessel and possession totals
Cam Charron takes a look.
Gustavsson saves a win on the first leg of a back-to-back
Michael Langlois' take on last night's game.
Game In 10: Game 27, Leafs at Rangers
Mislav Jantoljak with his take over at MLHS.
Did Ron Wilson Lie To The Toronto Media? If So, Does It Matter?
No, not really. But here's Jonathan Willis with his say, anyway.
Weekend Recap: Marlies Win 1-of-3
Kyle The Reporter has the rundown.
Shop Til You Drop
Andrew at Puck Buddies has his say on the transformation of the old Gardens.
Searching for Bobby Ryan
Oh yeah, Jon Steitzer at Puckin' Eh still wants him.
Toronto Maple Leafs End Rangers Streak At Five
Bryan Winters with a recap of last night's game at Blueshirt Banter.
Maple Leafs snap Rangers’ win streak with 4-2 victory
Rachel Cohen recaps the game at the Globe via the Associated Press.
Other Hackey Links:
How does the new NHL realignment impact teams’ travel?
Wyshynski has a look at each team's average distance to travel.
NHL realignment? More like this is just dumb, amirite?
Loser Domi has her say at Barry Melrose Rocks.
The Cost of Major Realignment Isn’t Worth Shorter Flights
Justin Bourne explains why at Backhand Shelf.
Is Alexander Ovechkin a coach killer?
The latest from DGB.
Backhand Shelf Podcast
More good stuff from Ron Pizzo and some other guy.
The Cost of Major Realignment Isn’t Worth Shorter Flights
Justin Bourne explains why at Backhand Shelf.
Boston University Doctor to Answer Readers' Questions About Boogaard
Go ahead and submit your questions about C.T.E..
Was Alex Ovechkin on Steroids?
Dirty Dangle has a 'gotta ask the question' sort of situation.
An Overview of PDO
From pho king awesome at his blog The Silver Fox.
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RE-ALIGNMENT RABBLE!
well it’s happened. I like the idea of home & home against each team, that’s a good idea, and honestly, this format does lend itself to relocation much better, which probably played a factor in the BOG’s thinking.
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I Like Almost all of it .. EXCEPT..
I dont like the fact that there could be either an all East Stanley Cup Finals or an all West Stanley Cup Finals.
Carolina vs Florida Stanley Cup Final is a Nightmare !
Or
Winnipeg vs Phoenix Stanley Cup Finals is another Nightmare !
Just make Conf A & B Divisions and the West Conference and Conf C & D Divisions and the Eastern Conference. Have the top winners from East and West come out to play for the SCF.
As far as the structure of the teams in what Conference or Division or group or whatever the frig were calling it.. I like the Grouping. (Kinda feel sorry for Tampa Bay and Florida for having to travel Ontario, Quebec, Western New York and Massachusetts to play in their Conference each team 6 times ! ( Ha Ha! Sucks to be you! )
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eh, i dont see the need for a West VS East final, you can look at it that way, or a more positive way. TOR/NYR, or CHI/VAN.
i always hated DIV leaders went 1,2,3 so this fixes that for me.
perfect playoffs would lead to a MTL/TOR cup final some day, but I’ll take eliminating them in the first round more often
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Considering they haven’t even had a playoff series since 1979, I’d take a first round matchup.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
TOR/MTL Final will still never happen under this format
Can’t play anyone from your division in the SCF. Bummer.
That’s always a risk anyhow, a Carolina/Winnipeg or Florida/Phoenix Stanley Cup isn’t all that appealing either.
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by BetterThanBester on Dec 6, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Its not likely either so dont worry about it.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 6, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
i assumed the Florida teams were fine with it for no other reason than they get a bunch of snowbird Canadians to come to their barns several times a year now for montreal, toronto ottawa games. That has to be the appeal for them. Travel skeds will be a little more balanced throughout. The only people who really got screwed at all were those in the 8-team divisions, but really, you can’t have a 30-team league with four divisions and have that math make sense.
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Bostonians also like to travel south and I assume Buffalonians use any excuse to leave that godforsaken hellhole
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 6, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Nobody from Buffalo lives in Buffalo anymore, they’ve already left.
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Harry Neale is the last known person to live in Buffalo
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m pretty sure even he lives closer to Niagara on the U.S. side.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully the Bills might too so I can find a new NFL team to cheer for.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Guess what.. They are talking about adding two more new Expansion teams to make it 32.
Thats Crazy !
We already have teams that are Financially struggling and they want to expand ? Not to mention dilute the talent crop just a bit more.
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Winnipeg vs. Phoenix SCF would be pretty awesome. Don’t think of it in terms of the quality of teams that they have right now – just think about it in terms of the franchise. Winnipeg vs. Ex-Winnipeg, Shane Doan vs. How-could-you-boo-shane-doan? I think it’d be pretty sweet.
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Unfortunately Rob I think the general consensus is against you. From my understanding changing the third round to a reseeding time so anyone could face anyone (now you can’t face the 6-7 other teams in your conference, but its closer) in the Stanley Cup Final was a motivation factor. In other words, the part you don’t like is actually what people wanted and motivated change (at least a part).
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According to Bettman, this piece isn’t actually settled yet. As in, "we haven’t made the decision whether it will be an “East vs East” or a “1 vs 4” round in the semis.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
No only relocation but expansion to 32. Remember, there’s a big chunk of money passed around whenever a team is added. Won’t bet that it will actually happen, but I will bet that Bettman is going to do his darndest.
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thats true, I didn’t think of it that way, but yeah, 32. or contraction to 28…hahahahahaha, or thats silly.
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master plan
Move Miami & Phoenix, add Quebec, Minneapolis, Seattle, Kansas City
Seattle, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Colorado
Minneapolis, Kansas City, Nashville, St. Louis, Chicago, Minnesota, Dallas and Winnipeg
New Jersey, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Washington and Carolina (and ideally TB, but it would be Columbus)
Boston, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Buffalo, Quebec City, Detroit and Tampa Bay
you do know that Minnesota basically plays in Minneapolis metro area right? It’s a hockey mad area, but they can’t support two NHL teams.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 6, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I like the abolition of Eastern vs. Western Conferences. If the two best teams in the regular season are Boston and Pittsburgh, then they should have a shot at fighting for the cup in the final. This is probably my favorite aspect of the re-alignment changes.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Unless the two best teams in the league happen to be in the same division.
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I’m okay with abolishing East vs. West conferences, since we don’t really lose much in the way of east vs. west rivalries. Does the west hate the east, and vice versa? Not really — not the way teams hate their divisional rivals.
By the time teams got to the third round under the old system, the match-ups were more or less random. You didn’t really see the two same opponents in the conference finals over and over, and the cup finalists were almost always different from year to year (with the recent exception of Detroit and Pittsburgh), so while you might have a hard-fought series, you didn’t build a lasting rivalry through repeated encounters with the same opponents. What’s important is to have those first two rounds within your own division/conference. Whatever happens after that is fine with me.
I think the ease with which they can accomodate Phoenix’s move to …. just about anywhere is a huge factor in this.
Phoenix goes to Quebec, Hamilton, GTA, Windsor – they join our conference.
Phoenix goes somewhere like Seattle, KC, Vegas? They stay where they are.
Phoenix goes to Atlanta? Hartford? No probs, they join the other 7 team conference.
Easy peasy. That had to be a huge factor for them after dealing with the schedule uncertainty over the last few years every summer.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Windsor!? Well that’s the craziest idea I’ve heard in a while.
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Yeah, they’re out of Leafs territory but can toss a rock at the Joe Louis
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although the rock might get robbed and shot.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
It would probs go bankrupt and get government bail out money before that.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
They’re also suffering from horrible unemployment, have no arena, and not much of a corporate presence outside of the car companies.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 6, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
they won’t go to Atlanta, that city just lost a team for lack of ownership. Above all else, the NHL wants stable ownership, and they won’t go somewhere without it.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I agree. Windsor and Atlanta were toss-in cities to play up the flexibility angle of the new alignment. I really have no idea where they might end up … but I think the fact that it only took an hour to get this massive, but flexible realignment plan approved speaks volumes about the fact that the NHL expects them to move somewhere and move there soon.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
my guess, and hope, is Quebec. Quebecers are huge hockey fans, like other Canadians, but having only a Montreal team isn’t right – most Quebecois outside of montreal make fun of the Montrealais for a variety of reasons, and many (especially in Quebec city and cities around it) won’t cheer for them. They only have QMJHL. Though QC is relatively small (~600,000), there’s plenty of people not far, enought to support a team. Plus, the QC government is willing to bankroll the team something fierce, and are already building an arena (a big advantage).
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I always liked Nords fans, my dad used to call them “La resistance” because they were blue and white and behind enemy lines
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want the Nords back because of how much leftover hatred there is with Habs fans. Habs lose to the Nords in the playoffs? We’ll see some REAL rioting then.
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So, Quebec comes back, they’re a shoe-in for our conference.
Do they make us an “8”, or do they move Boston out to create the “NBC” conference someone mentioned above? I admit I hadn’t considered that as a possibility, and was only expecting to get screwed by the 12.5 (or 7%) less chance of making the playoffs.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
if they mean it about rivalries they make it an 8.
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It’ll be an interesting decision to watch.
There is a bit of “for the fans” vs. “for American TV money” at play in the discussion… I would wholely support moving them out of the division. As I said yesterday, they’re still just “eh” in terms of rivalries for me.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
CBC looks at a possible leafs-habs playoff series with a forty foot erection along with the possibility of three canadian teams in the last four.
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by torleafsfan29 on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
I’d like to see a re-seed after the first round. That way you are sure to have one intra-division playoff every year, with the possibility of facing a division rival in the finals. After all, we’re on a hot streak against the Habs in Stanley Cup finals.
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by GreatKingRat on Dec 6, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
CBC looks at a possible leafs-habs playoff series with a forty foot erection
Comment of the day.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m conflicted, as I hate Boston and they seem to have our number generally (not always, last year the series was 4-2 I think) but they are also Original six.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
i wouldn’t be upset with a 6 game series v. Boston
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by pho king awesome on Dec 6, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Boston isn’t leaving our division since their biggest rival (Montreal) is here.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I want the Nordiques back because their jerseys were so much better than Phoenix’s.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 6, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Does home and home mean back to back games like the recent Boston/Leaf outing? If so, not sure it makes sense from a flight point of view when playing anaheim or kings etc.
no, I think it just means each team hosts and visits all the others
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correct. They are talking “over the course of the season” when they talk about home and home’s in this context.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
That’s gonna mean long road trips out west. 1 for the Canadian teams, 1 for the Cali teams and then 1 to do the Central.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not significantly different than what happens now anyways.
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But right now we only visit them every second year. This effectively doubles their time out west.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, in all likelihood the same thing will happen to the Western teams when they come East
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 6, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
nothing hurts
on mornings after leafs wins.
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by OffTheChest on Dec 6, 2011 7:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Should have dumped Buffalo, TB and Florida and added Chicago, Detriot and NYR. Screw travel, if you want rivalries, the NHL should have gone with the Original Six plus local whipping boy Ottawa.
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they were never going to break up the New York teams, the other ideal add would have been columbus
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Ah, right. OK, dump Ottawa for NYI.
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NYI is so boned. Look at that conference.
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I suspect they’ll never make the playoffs again. Ever. Then they’ll complain that being in an eight team division is inherently unfair but no one will back them up because the other seven teams in their division will think they’re in a seven team division that happens to get extra games against the islanders.
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Yakupov + Tavares is a deadly combination… But still.
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the only team that catches Columbus for Yakupov is the Ducks
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Carolina says what up
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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The bottom 4 now (CBJ, ANA,CAR, NYI) will likely be in the bottom 10 at the end of the year.
That next grouping im not so sure – TB,CGY,NJ, WPG, a few of those could creep down into a lottary pick.
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In terms of GP advantage: Car has played 28, Ana and Col played 26, and NYI have played 24 games.
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NYI has been shut out 4 times. I have 0 faith in their offense.
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Really? I actually have no faith in their offensive players’ defensive abilities. I feel like they play no defense at all, and use all their energy to pad their offensive stats in high scoring games
Hey, hey, are we talking about NYI or the Leafs here? According to this there’s not much offence on NYI to speak of — nor defence. They’re just bad all around.
OTOH the leafs are a classic run & gun (aka score and pray) team… 5th in GF and 25th in GA.
SCORE AND PRAY! SCORE AND PRAY!
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP.
Yup, works for anything.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
If nothing else it’s exciting to watch.
Also heart attack city.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Take me down to Heart Attack City
Where the goals are sweet but the D is shitty!
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by Learn2Leaf on Dec 6, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
SCORE AND PREY!
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by jimmyp22 on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SCORE AND PRAY REIMER! SCORE AND PRAY REIMER!
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 6, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
i hope burkie can swindle a mid 1st out of someone, I want Frk
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
We might have a mid-1st pick ourselves.
Making playoffs is one thing… getting out of the 1st round…not so much.
I haven’t looked much into the 2012 draft yet except hearing how crazy hyped it already is.
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Defence overload!
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depends who the Leafs draw really
if it is Boston, then see you next season, but I wouldn’t bet against a semi healthy Leaf squad against most of the east
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
depends who the Leafs draw really
Bingo. If it’s PIT/PHI/BOS/WSH we’re probably fucked (unless WSH keeps up this shitparade of play).
If it’s FLA/NYR/OTT/NJ? I’d flip a coin.
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OTT aint making it, I see us at 7th/8th so there’s no room for smelly senators. I guess FLA/NYR we could compete with. If it’s boston, god help us all as we get swept in 4 games. Pitts? We can win one or two. Wash? Who knows given their play this year, depends which team shows up.
So I guess I was wrong, but we still need a Reimer miracle, methinks.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
If Pronger is out I think we can take Philly. I don’t think we’re the better team, I just think we have a reasonable shot. Pittsburgh and Washington would be very tough and Boston just seems to have our number.
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I don’t have the same confidence as you that we could beat Philly in a 7 game series.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
that’s why I love the playoffs, anyone can beat anyone if the right things happen
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t have a lot of confidence I just think we could do it.
ie if we met them in 10 7 game series, I think we could take it 2-3 times.
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A 20-30% success rate in your mini Monte Carlo analysis does not increase my expectation.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
One thing to remember: Ottawa used to beat us handedly in the regular season, everyone by a blowout. We couldn’t touch them — in the regular season. Then the playoffs happen and the rest is sweet, sweet history.
Whenever we tried to explain that, we just used intangibles: heart, dedication, quality goaltending. Maybe those same intangibles can show up again?
I don’t think you two understand what tangible means.
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If we draft Frk I’m totally getting his jersey
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 6, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Is he projected to be a middle of the pack first rounder?
...Being surrounded by Sens and Habs fans makes me lose faith in humanity...
I hope he falls all the way to 30….
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hyka is another player that might be interesting, considering it’ll be his second draft/
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lol Flyers
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry, they used that seventh round pick on a guy with less than 10 career points.
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It frightens me to think how good the Flyers could be with capable management.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
call me crazy
but i think winnipeg’s going to be better. I thought tampa and calgary and jersey were all lucky to go on the runs they went on last year to end the season. But check the underlying stats and the Jets are better than their record.
Playoffs? i dunno. But not a lottery pick. Mind you, that’s a bad place to be :)
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
The only reason Winnipeg (Atlanta) was any good last year was because of a crazy run by Pavelec in the fall. Without better goaltending they are not cracking 10th.
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further
Carolina is second worse by points%.
Also Islanders can easily end up bottom 3 and with the lotto…
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I think Calgary still has a shot at that spot as well. They’re real bad…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Kiprusoff will keep them mediocre.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
But they still have the “tank” card to play. Not sure they are going to play it this season (it would be like them not to and then do it during the off season, thus not garnering any benefit at the draft from missing the playoffs).
Iggy and Kipper out of town in trades? – that team may not win another game.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
they should trade both and Jay-Bo, but they probably wont trade any of them
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'll have to see it before I believe it.
All they need to do is hit the “BLOW TEAM UP” button but either they’re waiting for the right deal or they’re truly delusional that this team can compete.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
they are also terribly disadvantaged by the NTC’s
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
If they wanted they could find takers for Iginla or Kipper on contenders.
The rest of their mediocre shit is huge baggage for sure. But seriously, who wouldn’t waive to leave CGY now?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but now not only do they have to find teams with capspace, but they also have to cater to the players wants, I mean, just say Iggy wants to stay in Canada, or Kipper will only waive for calie, leaves options, and in turn bidding wars few and far
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying it will be easy and they won’t get top dollar – but is doing nothing any better?
At least Fletcher put Toronto in full GTFO mode.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Bourque and Glencross have trade value as well. (on-ice value, too lazy to look up their contract statuses)
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Glencross has a full NMC and Bourque has a modified NTC
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently it's Bourque's contract length that's the bitch
4 more seasons after this one.
$3.3M for a ~25+ goal guy isn’t awful though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Bourque is already 30, he wont be a 25 goal guy much longer me thinks, hell he didnt even have a 25+ goal season until 09-10
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Ya… the 4 more seasons is the rough part.
At 34… won’t be scoring 25+.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
His GPG has been solid for a while, but he could not stay fucking healthy. I would want to invest anything in him, but teams may want him around the deadline for secondary offense.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
If the Ducks land Yakupov, then they really need to trade one or both of Perry or Getzlaf. Rebuilding the team around Yakupov, Ryan, and Fowler plus whatever assets they could get for Perry/Getzlaf would put them back on a pretty good path to being a contender again.
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by Draglikepull on Dec 6, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I would probably keep Getzlaf. Mostly because getting a C of his quality is just so damn hard. I know he is already 26 but from my understanding all of their forward prospects are wingeres and so is Yakupov.
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 6, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I get some of the freakouts, but they kept pretty much all rivalries intact.
It may seem kind of silly to have TB/FLA in our “conference” now, but come playoff time these conference rivalries will probably be a good thing for bringing back the hate.
All I’m looking forward to is a MTL/BOS and TOR/OTT 1st round series next year. Hopefully followed by a TOR/MTL series.
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Hopefully followed by a TOR/MTL series.
Anything but TOR/BOS.
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by Shield on Dec 6, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, the way things are going those will never happen because those teams won’t make the playoffs.
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by Shield on Dec 6, 2011 8:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how WPG fans feel. They only get to face CGY, EDM and VAN twice a year. I’m assuming they would have wanted more than that.
Oh well fuck ’em.
Also it’s probably good news that we only face Ovi and Sid 2x a year instead of 4. But see more Stamkos.
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well aren’t exceptions made for Canadian teams right now? don’t we play all west CDN teams at least once a season instead of skipping their division every 2 season?
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Yeah, it makes a lot more sense to me to have Winnipeg out West with Calgary and Vancouver, and Colorado in the same division as Detroit. I mean this is all about rekindling rivalries right? Does anyone remember those old Winnipeg-Dallas rivalries of old? Oh right….
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
I know it’s been said 1000x already but there was never going to be a way to please everybody.
TOR/MTL/BOS remained, all the New York rivalries are there, CGY/VAN/EDM all together, and frankly I don’t really give a shit about other rivalries.
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Ok, well that’s fine.
Point still remains, you’ve got Winnipeg as the only Canadian team in it’s division and without any “historical” rivalries. They and Colorado and virtually equidistant from the other teams in the Central division, and Colorado has a history with Detroit. I dunno, seems like an oversight to me.
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Ya the COL/DET one was the only one that really stood out.
WPG should be happy it even has a team. Forge new rivalries, I guess.
There was mention that they didn’t want to put all 4 Western Canadian teams in one conference/division.
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I think they’re setting up a Phoenix move back East and will re-align the conferences again to put “Phoenix” in the current NE along with Detroit.
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Could be, could be. Wouldn’t they have to vote again on that?
The key term in this re-alignment seems to be “flexibility”
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All i wanted from this “new re-alignment” was interesting intradivison rivalries and exciting games. No offence to Florida but i’d rather give up the stammer state, and include detroit and colombus, get one more original six matchup back. Florida teams can join the new york conference for all i care.
Yeah, I was thinking this as well. Maybe even Florida.
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I wonder if Florida’s recent play has gotten them better attendance
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Depends if they bothered to improve the arena experience, which i’ve heard from FloridaBuffalo is really poor.
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They’re on fire.
Put me in the group that didn’t see this coming, AKA the “99%”
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I said they’d be better than everyone expected, but I didn’t think they’d be half this good
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
I love how the owner will put a logo on anything
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Haha, i know its an unfair comparison in every way: but Florida has more butts in the seats than winterpeg.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Dude. Winnipeg HAS sold out forever. Every ticket sold for the next 5 years. It’s just not a huge rink.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Its sold out for 3 years because STH were forced to buy for 3 years
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People can say what they want but that was a genius move.
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I dont disagree
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twas the joke, they are in an AHL barn, I am aware
also, fuck the Jets
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
agreed, fuck the jets
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Dec 6, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed on fuck the Jets, but they’ve piled in behind that team and that arena. The fan noise is like a jet engine, and they’re on their feet most of the game.
Where as I went to the Bruins game last week with this developmentally handicapped kid, sat at one end, lower bowl, and only stood for goals and breakaways. I booed precisely once, when Chara was announced. And completely sober, as had the kid with me.
And what happened? An usher comes up to me between periods, tells me there’s been “complaints,” and I’m “getting too excited” (exact quote) and should “sit down more.”
Seriously.
I can’t tell you how much I hate the fucking lifeless trolls that fill most – though not all – of those lower seats. They come trooping in at 8 MINUTES into the game, blocking my view, order and retrieve food each period, then return 3 minutes late for the 2nd period, and 3 minutes late for the 3rd, then leave 5 minutes early….. fail to cheer…. know nothing… and then actually COMPLAIN about somebody who loves hockey, standing and cheering.
In terms of arenas and crowds, straight up, the MTS Centre beats the ACC 100 to 1. And I wish the Leafs would bloody do something to start fixing it.
For starters, tell the ushers to go shit on the suits for a change.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And what happened? An usher comes up to me between periods, tells me there’s been "complaints," and I’m "getting too excited" (exact quote) and should "sit down more."
This is a joke right?
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Nope. The woman in front of me, it blew her mind. She just kept talking about it. she’s there all the time, and she’s furious at the suits. You stare at their asses when they come in late and leave early, at the people bringing them food, as they head out to the can…. but stand on your feet for a fucking breakaway, and they complain.
It’s hockey.
HOCKEY.
And you know damn well it was someone with some cash and clothes who talked to the usher too. Fuckit. I was embarrassed, and the kid was sortof scared. Great. Bad enough it had to be the Bruins game.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I know there are suits here, but I still don’t like that they dominate the whole lower bowl, half of them sitting there like ducks doing nothing.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
War on suits is stupid.
This is like 99% vs 1% stuff.
I’m not going to defend them all because in general the stereotypes are right, but as a suit myself, we’re not all like that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I know that, I did say “half of them”. Although the 1% vs. the 99% is, in the case of the United States, patently evident. Recent CBO studies demonstrate the vast discrepancy in income growth and wealth distribution and it is largely between the 1% and the 99% *(though more accurately the 0.01% vs. the 99.99%)
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I;ve sat in the suit sections a bunch of times at the ACC and cheered my ass off, chirped rival teams and fans drank my face off and never had a complaint
sure there was a lot of business chatter and black berry watching going on around me, but no one ever infringed on my fan experience
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
That’s great.
But for me, I’d pretty much now rather watch the game on TV with friends than at the ACC. Which is pretty telling, as I’ve always liked to either play the game, or get as near as possible.
Seriously, the ACC and the crowd mix they’re drawing, is just not what it should be. Leaf fans are incredibly loyal and proud and knowledgeable and energetic, and it’s not showing up at the ACC.
So no, I’m NOT saying the fans are worse, they’re not. They’re like I said – smart and into the game. But the suits – and yes, while there are exceptions, it’s the suits – who are killing it. People who are paying the full ride for their tickets don’t come in late, leave early, and mope throughout.
And the ACC management must be morons, because they try all this sad-ass rabble-rabble shit to “get the crowd going,” which is embarrassing because you’re pitching to people who KNOW THEIR SHIT AND ARE INTO IT… and the PROBLEM fans who are dragging down the mood and the excitement feel they’re above all the rabble-rabble.
It’s not as though this problem doesn’t exist elsewhere, but it does have to be managed. Soccer teams face it. Basketball teams face it. But when it starts to make the atmosphere at the rink into something second rate, you probably want to start to work changing it.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully when playoff hockey finally returns to the ACC, the “regular fans” will be so loud that the suits down below will finally accept the fact that the lower bowl is not a suitable place to hold a business meeting.
If you jump to your feet during a breakaway, you block people behind you from seeing it. They can stand up too, but by by the time they get to their feet, it may be too late. The complaint is valid. Stay in your seat. Don’t lean forward. And cheer as loud as you want.
by Peter Lynn on Dec 6, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You ARE kidding, right?
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
People go to games and drink.
They go to games and come in late.
They leave early.
That is, they stand up, stretch, talk, and go back and forth, sloooooooowly, for food, beer, the bathroom, whatever.
When I stand up for a breakaway, people can easily stand behind me, shout and cheer, and sit down with me – all inside about 15 seconds. Easy. It’s called being excited about the game.
Whereas those clowns standing, walking, talking, waiting for each other, for extended periods? All with NOTHING to do with the game? You’re fine with them?
Forget it. When I go, I’ll stand and cheer during goals, close plays, fights and when they come on the ice. It’s actually something players like, it creates great atmosphere, and everybody can do it with you.
And all of it, with less blockage and intrusion than the truly obnoxious non-game-related shit people do.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
This post just reminded me of the TOR/VAN game I saw in Vancouver where Lee Stempniak fanned on a breakaway. Thanks for bringing up that repressed memory.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
it never happened.
/ninja’ed
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m not endorsing the suits showing up late and leaving early, walking, talking, etc. I’m not fine with that, and I never said I was.
I just don’t like having to sit behind you either.
quitcher bitchin'.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck that. I am getting excited to enjoy the game. If someone is standing the whole time its annoying, but to jump up for a great play. I do it.
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Peter that is ridiculous. I expect people to stand up when something exciting is going on and if you’re a fan and something exciting is going on you’ll probably stand up at the same time. We’re not attending a Shakespearean theater production. It’s a freakin hockey game.
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I got shushed in the upper bowl at a raptors game and threatened with being removed. My friends and I were yelling but no obscenities or anything. I only got to sit in the platinums one time for hockey and I was screaming my ass off with lots of obscenities. To be honest I gave so much crap to the ref that after he called one of the penalties he pointed at me and not to the scorer’s table and that time the suits were giving me looks galore but no ushers said anything. I really don’t get it. I started my sports fandom in Europe where my dad would only take me to certain games fearing that I might die if we went to the wrong game. Getting shushed is pathetic at a sporting event as far as I’m concerned but at the same time I still can’t understand why the condoned it when I was in the platinums.
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wait, the hip are rock musicÉ
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the hip are defiantely rock….. whats with all the hip hate lately? didnt realize there were so many haters
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because they are tragically over rated?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I kind of agree with this. I feel Un-Canadian for saying it, but it might be true.
Also, I don’t like their use of Canadiana in songs. It seems too artificial.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 6, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like 3 Hip songs, 2 of them quite a bit, but I find most of their stuff just very “meh” I blame over exposure while growing up in Kingston during their hay day
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I did not grow up in Kingston, but besides that I agree with the above.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 6, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
OMG seriously? the Headstones are terrible.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 6, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
While I respect everyone’s choice to love whatever type of music they do, Road Apples is a phenomenal album.
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by Learn2Leaf on Dec 6, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’n that fucker.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh dude, I don’t hate the comment, I’m hating on the word play. Not your best work
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really? I thought it was hip
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
weak
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/26/128669678199877811.jpg
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Winnipeg can only fit 15k in the mts centre. They are filling at 100pct of capacity.
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by torleafsfan29 on Dec 6, 2011 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
it’s a joke
jooooooooooooooooooooooooooke
fuck the jets
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
They were idiots to bring an NHL team in with such a tiny arena.
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Don’t believe so. They just built this arena.
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Winnipeg can only fit 15k in the mts centre. They are filling at 100pct of capacity.
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by torleafsfan29 on Dec 6, 2011 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Winnipeg can only fit 15k in the mts centre. They are filling at 100pct of capacity.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I hate when people repost stuff from the same thread, adds nothing to the conversation.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I donno. I felt nhlcheapshot’s version was tighter somehow. Had more impact.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
clearly it’s confimation bias. He posts more often than torleafsfan29 so you will think his is better. Do you even read the posts?
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 6, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
What? Whazzat? Speak up?
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
It’s two time zones from Winnipeg to the west coast. The new alignment doesn’t have any team going that far for divisional rivalry.
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by Back In Black on Dec 6, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I think game start times played a large role as well.
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I’ll be completely honest, I didn’t even consider this to be a factor until now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Really? I think time zones (thus game starts) was the biggest factor.
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With all the focus on travel, etc. I’d completely forgotten about game starts.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Good point
But I think the Minnesota/Wpg rivalry is being banked on. They’re pretty close.
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Actually
Nevermind. I was thinking Winnipeg to the state and/or St Paul. Not to Minneapolis.
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Ignore the St. Paul part too. I really need to work on my US geography.
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They did it time zone based entirely, IIRC. So Colorado is in A (a PT/MT conference) because they’re Mountain, and Winnipeg in B (a CT/ET conference) because they’re Central.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
The Northeast looks really weird on that map. It really looks like the league expects Florida to move north in the near future. Leaving expansion aside for now, let’s say Phoenix moves to Quebec City and Florida moves to the GTA. Tampa could slide right into the Atlantic.
how often do we currently face teams like Florida and Tampa??
...Being surrounded by Sens and Habs fans makes me lose faith in humanity...
4x per year… I think? Now it’ll be 6.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW
I thought the NE would just take Pitts/Philly instead of the Fla teams.
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Then you’d miss out on Crosby vs Ovechkin 6x a year!
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Sadly
This is a good point.
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One thing that’s going to be really annoying for the next 5 years is how teams will miss playoffs and it will always be like “under the old format x team would’ve made it” in situations where a team is 8th overall in the “East” but 5th in their “Conference”.
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Whatever, people do that now comparing it to the system before shootouts/3 point system.
It’s always going to be that way.
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EXCEPT NOW ITS BLATANTLY UNFAIR!
rabble rabble rabble…
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I wanted alignment to go way the other way – 2 conferences, play nearly a balanced schedule in your conference and do what we do now and play 18 times in the other conference. Seed 1-8 by points. Cross over to the other conference in the semis if you want.
Sure that sucks for Detroit and Columbus, but to truly determine which teams deserve to be in the playoffs and with the proper seeding (without doing something totally unreasonable like playing every team in the NHL an equal number of times) this would have been my solution.
Obviously they went polar opposite.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
It should make those intraconference games that much bloodier in the regular season, though — even more incentive to take those two points away from each Northeast opponent in every game.
This is true. You might see things like pulling a goalie with a minute left in a tie game to try and avoid overtime. The Leafs did this about three years ago against Philly I believe. They were on one of those miracle runs, had a powerplay in the final 90 seconds and pulled whomever the awful goalie was. They didn’t score, but it was perhaps the most exciting final minute I’ve ever seen.
I think I remember that game
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Here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iUcXrBGqRA&feature=related
Looking back, I think most of the excitement came from Bowen’s voice.
That was brilliant.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just happy the Leafs will make the playoffs before the format switches so we don’t hear “the Laffs only made the playoffs because of the conference re-alignment… 1967 rabble rabble Burke’s a meanie rabble rabble I sharted in my pants rabble rabble”
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 6, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions
and...
reply fail
/sad trombone
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 6, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s not go jinxing this team in December. There’s a long way to go until the Leafs clinch a spot.
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by T is for Truculence on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
O CANADA... YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!1
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by danishmarshmallow on Dec 6, 2011 9:06 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
Make that man a citizen.
And if we’re out of citizenship papers, take Cherry’s.
He belongs in fucking Wisconsin.
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Oh dear…
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I wouldn't mind that, but he still plays for the US!
I am so giddy that an American is actually leading the scoring race.
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by Diamondback15 on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Pop quiz
Who was the last american to win the Art Ross?
NO CHEATING
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the correct answer
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Until Phil Kessel that is.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Must appease Canadian fanbase….
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Just look at the face: it’s vacant, with a hint of sadness. Like a drunk who’s lost a bet.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Dec 6, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Bozie doesn’t think I know this song. I’ll show him.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Meanwhile, Bozak spent the entire anthem trying to see if he could spot Kate Upton.
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by Learn2Leaf on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like this re-alignment, actually
First off, the home-and-home games against ALL teams is the way it always should have been IMO, so I’m glad they’ve corrected that.
At first glance, however, the 8-team conference vs. 7-team conference does seem slightly unfair. (better statistical chance of making playoffs in a 7-team conference)
Is that just me?
no people have done charts and graphs and the maths on it, it is unfair to the 8 team groupings
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Teams in a seven team division make the playoffs 12.5% more often than teams in an eight team division. (i refuse to call them conferences)
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Thank you!
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It really is. All of the other biases only increase that number.
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On the surface it really does look like simple math. I’m sure there are other factors, but when only four teams per division/conference qualify for the playoffs, it looks like a 57% chance in a 7-team division versus a 50% chance in an 8-team division.
Right
4/8 compared to 4/7.
Factor in large conferences causing bigger disparity in overall team talent as bottom teams are kept there, and I’d say it’s about a 5% difference overall.
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Right, look at the conference with detroit,chi etc. I think they are happy they get to thump on COlumbus 5-6 times a year than having to play a better team more often
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Teams in the smaller conferences will make the playoffs 12.5% more frequently. We can talk about things like talent distribution, control of your own fate, etc., but it’s just empirically true that teams in the smaller conferences will have more playoff appearances.
I really would be curious to see an explanation of how it could possibly be any other way.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Dec 6, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
It is December. The fucking Pittsburgh Penguins are only 4 points ahead of us. We have a game in hand. Not even in my dreams did I think this was possible
6th in the East yo.
If playoffs were today, we’d be facing Florida. That’s a 1st round matchup I’m very okay with.
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Also Gustavsson is looking astonishingly competent.
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True, but theres a lot of teams behind/near us that are closer in points and have games in hand themselves. Another couple game losing streak and the Leafs are in 11th.
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The East is close this year. I just hope the Leafs stick with it while it starts to spread out a bit more.
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True – but Leafs just got through a pretty rough patch of games and injuries, including our #1 goalie.
As health returns, if anything there is more optimism for wins than there was a month ago.
Then again Dec is usually a bad month for us.
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NJ is on a bit of a losing streak. Lets hope the buds dont revert to slump busters and can capitalize.
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I want to chirp NJ but I’m holding my breath or karma will bite me.
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We all know the back to back excuses are there. It’ll come down to Reimer.
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I hate excuses. Even when they’re justified.
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It’s not, though. Travel between NY and NJ is very short, so they should be well rested, even if its back to backs.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
no, I was wrongly thinking the game was in NJ. But either way, that’s not too bad for travel. Hour or so flight.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Look at that NJ defense. Lupul and Kessel are going to pick up where they left off last night, and I predict Kulemin will get off the schneid tonight.
Don’t worry guys, I gave a homeless guy a dollar this morning. I have some karma to spare.
please give it to Kulemin, the kid needs an antidote for that deadly snake bite he’s got.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Gotta wonder
How much comcast is salivating over this realignment. They can have a combo of philly, washington, pittsburgh and NYR on NBC every weekend.
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If they could have replaced Carolina with Boston they would have gotten my NBC Division
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Don’t think Snider didn’t try
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Crosbvechkin Conference, Some Other Conference, Who Cares Conference, and Detroit. #NHLConferenceNames #BroughtToYouByNBC
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Someone on DBTB called our division the “snowbird division”
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That was rolling around twitter last night too.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hippie Conference
Flyover Conference
Snowbird Conference
NBC Circle Jerk Conference
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by SkinnyFish on Dec 6, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I liked it better when it was the Pacific Division and I'd just call it the California division.
Also, I thought California was the only hippie place, is western canada full of hippies?
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by Diamondback15 on Dec 6, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I wish these were the actual names.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 6, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
The real question about re-alignment;
Does the Leafs’ history of no-showing midweek games against the FLA teams continue now that they are conference rivals?
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We discussed this earlier and believe it warrants further study.
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Leafs did pretty well against Tampa Bay on a Tuesday this season.
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by theninjagreg on Dec 6, 2011 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lupul scoffs at your "pretty well"
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by jimmyp22 on Dec 6, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
High glove…
must be an Allaire goaltender
by GettinGiggy on Dec 6, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The book is out .
Of course the book on Roloson was probably made by the original Gutenberg press.
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by clrkaitken on Dec 6, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It could have been done easily
But I actually prefer the reboot. It’s probably because I was a hockey fan in the 80s, but I prefer a divisional setup with meaningful rivalries. As it stands, Toronto and Washington compete for the same playoff spot and the same playoff matchup, but Washington gets Florida 6 times while Toronto gets Boston 6 times. That’s never made sense to me.
You get meaningful rivalries when the teams you face all year are the ones you’re competing for playoff spots for and the ones you’ll be facing in the playoffs.
They also did a good job of balancing timezones and geographical rivalries, IMO. They must have been tempted to put Detroit and Columbus in the Eastern divisions though; I wonder if concern about relocation really did play a role.
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
nor will their fans, man I loved the retweets Lambert was tweeting last night.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 6, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
SERIOUSLY?
Jesus, what the fuck has Rynnas done to deserve a Marlies roster spot
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
he is really good at opening the bench gate
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
You see?
He gets no respect.
/wryness intended
//hereallweek
Option 1: He earns fewer starts than Owuya and Scrivens do.
Option 2: He’s up for contract at the end of this year, and needs to put up or walk.
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maybe his contract is to much for the ECHL? I believe they have a cap as well.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 6, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Both make 67,500 at the AHL level. I can’t imagine the organization’s hand has been forced in this.
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plan is probably to have scrivens as the defacto starter and Rynnas benchwarm 90 percent of the time and they want to get Owuya starts
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
keeps him as a #1 I guess. Reimer won the Kelly Cup in the ECHL and look how that worked.
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I guess… I just hate to see great performance not be rewarded.
One reason I didn’t like the Aulie callup in the slightest.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah he isn’t having a good season. Kid needs to work on his game in the AHL, he shouldn’t be a scratch here.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Bring up Holzer. He at least is earning it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Let Owuya and Scrivens get all the starts and face a ton of rubber. See what they are made of.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Won't be long
until they’re reminded of what started this and they re-align again.
...............................
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by OffTheChest on Dec 6, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Never heard it mentioned here…but do people check out spectorshockey.net at all? That’s where i’ve been going for trade/signing rumours for the past few years, and I think he’s pretty good at shooting down ridiculous rumours while pointing out the players that are more likely to move.
He’s not bad but he actual checks and criticizes Bleacher Report and he who shall not be linked so that’s sort of a drop of credibility.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen some hilarious HockeyBuzz rumours analyzed there, in which he basically insults the poster for being totally preposterous. I don’t mind that.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I’m more in the camp “ignore stupidity” rather than give it the time of day.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
This is true to the knowledgeable fan but the casual person might think they have some merit. Good to have a place they can go to get straightened out.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Phaneuf sours sauer
Glenn Healy = Human sewage.
Scrivens on a prayer...
by Future_considerations on Dec 6, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
best part about the hit – No fight afterwards
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Just a whole lot of people checking replay cameras to make sure it wasn’t a hit to the head.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Man, I loved those hits. Hope we use them a bit more often throughout the game as opposed to just in the last few minutes. That’s a style I love.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Remember that span of 4 games last year when Phaneuf leveled a guy every damn game?
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No fight & no suspension, everyone wins.. except sauer i guess
Glenn Healy = Human sewage.
Scrivens on a prayer...
by Future_considerations on Dec 6, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
No scrum or anything, props to the Rangers for that
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 6, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Lupul could have had 3 goals last night, dude was a force out there.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions
I always knew he had a pretty good shot.
I had no idea he could dangle like that. I had to doublecheck to make sure that wasn’t Kessel who had the puck.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
it was funny how many times Kessel flat out embarrassed the Rangers D just stick handling around them
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
1st period was the best period.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t find it anywhere but he pulled a move last night where he put the puck through the D’s legs, reached over him, and as the D turned, Kessel poked it back from whence it came with one hand to his teammate. He had another one where he was kinda standing still with the puck on the half boards, the D charged him, so he put the puck through the D’s legs, stepped around him and retrieved the puck in open ice. Magic.
I’m upset the Game In Six didn’t capture any of that period’s awesomeness.
Should have skipped the stupid Rosehill fight and just shown the dangles.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it was the dangles and the net drive. Their line had about a half dozen shifts of pure dominance in the offensive zone, drew at least two penalties as well. If not for Lundqvist it could have gotten ugly.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
One thing about realignment
People are talking about how “now any team can face any other team”, but its not really true.
Number of possible teams in:
Old system——new system (7 team conference)—— new system (8 team conference)
Rd 1: 14——6——7
Rd 2: 14——6——7
Rd 3: 14—— 23——22
Rd 4: 15—— 23——22
I guess the big appeal is that now you have either 22 or 23 teams that you can meet in the SCF vs the previous 15.
To be clear, I actually like this change (I am excited for more division rivalries), I am just not sure if we are actually seeing an “increase” of who you can meet.
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by jimmyp22 on Dec 6, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Probably, yeah. Rosehill probably is, too. Enforcer fights are stupid.
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he isn’t good enough
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
He did dumb stuff last night like take penalties.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Our best hope of that is probably Brad Ross.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I view Brad Ross (probably too optimistically) as a crazier version of Tucker, perhaps with a bit less scoring touch.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Brad Ross is 17th in the WHL in scoring.
I ran the comparisons about a week ago, he scores less than Marchand but takes more penalties, but not an awful comparison at the junior level.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
He certainly does not lack “truculence”
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
just wait till the WJC, this kid is going to create some mayhem
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
my god to people in the WHL hate Brad Ross
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
now why would THAT be?
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by not norm ullman on Dec 6, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
his feet have a strong cheese like odour
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
That explains the Greg McKegg picture then…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Also, the hilarious unfairness, he's two years ago standings and playoffs:
In:
San Jose Sharks 113 P
Phoenix Coyotes 107 P
Vancouver Canucks 103 P
Los Angeles Kings 101 P
Chicago Blackhawks 112 C
Detroit Red Wings 102 C
Nashville Predators 100 C
St. Louis Blues 90 C
Buffalo Sabres 100 N
Ottawa Senators 94 N
Boston Bruins 91 N
Montreal Canadiens 88 N
Washington Capitals 121 A
New Jersey Devils 103 A
Pittsburgh Penguins 101 A
Philadelphia Flyers 88 A
Left out:
Colorado Avalanche 95 P
Calgary Flames 90 P
Anaheim Ducks 89 P
Deal with it, Pacific Division.
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Ouch
Left out:
Colorado Avalanche 95 P
Calgary Flames 90 P
Anaheim Ducks 89 P
That sucks. I’d be furious.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I am pretty sure
It would be less likely to turn out this way. With 36-38 games against inconference rivals I don’t think you would end up with so many teams with such good records.
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I suspect the Flames would have been crushed and edmonton wouldn’t have even gotten to the 62 points they had.
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I think there will be some sort of “crossover from 8 team conf to 7 team conference” thing added to the mix at some point soon to at least partially address this issue.
So, Colorado & Calgary get in, Philly and Montreal are eliminated. Sucks to be Anaheim.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently that will ruin the “Geographical purity” of the conferences and was shot down.
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Any scheme that puts the two Florida teams in the Northeast cannot be associated with the phrase “geographical purity”.
My thoughts exactly but apparently Bettman thinks otherwise. LA vs Toronto due to crossover!! Madness!
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I suspect that asking a team “miss playoffs” vs. “travel across the country as a #4 seed” … they take the free money and choose to qualify for the playoffs.
That’s why I think it’ll happen fairly soon.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Colorado, Calgary, and Anaheim are all in one conference. So only one would get in.
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Wait, how did STL get in with 90 but not Colorado with 95?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
This would be under the new rules (where its top 4 in the conference).
That is not what actually happened.
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Ah I failed in my head.
Time for lunch.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit
So last night I sent in the Phaneuf hit into SI’s hotclicks for shits and giggles and got it posted here .Even got my name and everything. High five to me
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Congrats Kyle from Brantford.
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This is unlawful
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
by Nirbo on Dec 6, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ya I’m kinda confused myself on this one
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
#FreeChaim
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
by Nirbo on Dec 6, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I had a feeling that was where this was headed but decided to set myself up for a “Whoosh” instead if necessary. As you were, carry on
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
You’ve just won a phone, by the way
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 6, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
So today we play NJ. We got to get a win out of this one to keep trying to force a gap with those lower Eastern teams. I assume Grabbo will be back, but I could be wrong. Anyone know if it was a boy or a girl? They were joking last night about him wanting to name the kid Jagger….
She may very well still be in labour.
No news yet. I wouldn’t put it past him to be serious about Jagger.
Even if she gave birth already doesn’t mean he’ll be playing tonight.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 6, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
that’s true, although since the game is in toronto I figured if she already gave birth then he might play but who knows, It’s totally reasonable for him not to play, but Grabbo may want to score one for his new son/daughter.
by Goosemonster on Dec 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I completely get it if he can’t make it, but it’s such a huge talent dropoff from him to Rosehill I hope he can make it.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
The baby has to get to it’s first live game at some point does it not? Why not on it’s birthday?
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
If she was in a long labour and he was up all night I almost would prefer him not to play. Obviously it comes down to his and the trainers decision, but if he is running on none-a couple hours of sleep its probably not a good idea.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Hey, Rosehill managed three whole minutes of icetime last night!
Seriously, if they really wanted to take planning for back-to-backs seriously, they’d have sent Aulie down and brought up someone who can handle a semi-regular shift at forward to take Grabbo’s place tonight. Of course fatigue will be a factor if everyone’s taking extra shifts two nights in a row.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 6, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
This is an affront to all that is good in the world.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
Next 3 games are against teams on bad losing skids (NJ, WSH, CAR).
Considering after that, we have a back-to-back away game vs. Buffalo (Leafs can’t buy a win there) and a game vs. Vancouver (had our number since the lockout), these three games have some important points.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
vs. Buffalo (Leafs can’t buy a win there)
That hasn’t been true in a while, has it?
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
I believe they won one of their games in Buffalo, but it hasn’t been a kind place to them, even dating back before the lockout.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind I’m referring specifically to games in Buffalo only.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ya I thought we helped bust that trend last season a bit
1st game @ Buffalo: Loss 3-1
2nd game @ Buffalo: Loss 6-2
3rd game @ Buffalo: Win 2-1
We also won the last 2 games against them in TOR after that win in BUF.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
Still two losses in Buffalo in three games. Pretty sure that one win was their first in Buffalo in awhile.
Point is: winning that game is possible, but not probable.
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Last year
We were 1-2-0 there
The year before:
0-2-1
Year before
1-2-0
So over the last 3 years:
2-6-1 or 5 points in 9 GP. Thats pretty terrible.
At home we have gone 4-4-1 (9 pts over 9 GP). This is largely due to us going 2-0-1 at home last year.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Gus
His season save percentage is back over .900 (.901). If he can strong together a couple good starts again – he could actually have somewhat respectable goalie numbers.
He’ll need to string together about 10 more .938 starts to get up to .910, which i’d consider a “good” backup.
With Reimer back, will Gus even see 10 more starts?
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
I get the Reimer love. Impossible to not like him personally but he has less than 40 NHL starts under his belt. Thinking back to the summer people agreed that the best case scenario would be Gus playing good and pushing Reims. It’s happening now and we should have no issue with a 1a 1b tandem if both are worthy of minutes. Keeps them fresher in the long run.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 6, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
IIRC the Leafs have ton of back2backs in Feb/March so I assume he’ll get close – 55 games, Reimer ~45, Gus 10
I'm absolutely all for playing Gus on back-to-backs.
I hate playing the same goalie twice in a row unless there is almost no alternative.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
I would expect about 60-65 GP pace or in other words ~75% of the starts. With 55 GP left thats roughly 41 GP for Reimer, so 14 for Gus.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Been gone for a while, did we know about this?
Ottawa Senators and Canadian Blood Services to host "Sens Big Save!"
The Sens are hosting a blood drive. Paging Colton Orr and Wendel Clark. Look out Matt Carkner.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
Certified Grabbo Lover and member of the PPPPP
I also write things about stuff over at the Leafs Nation
by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 6, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions
Excellent meme
Tooting my own twitter horn:
@miliucm
Michael M.
#Sens are holding a blood drive til Dec. 10th. Crosby is coming to Ottawa six days later. Coincidence? I think not. #SidneyCrosbyisaVampire
by lucc on Dec 6, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, Lisa! You and your stories! Sidney Crosby is a vampire, Dion Phaneuf kills brain cells! Now let’s all go back to that.. building thingy… where our beds and TV… is.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
by JP Nikota on Dec 6, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Scott MacArthur just listed Grabbo as a healthy scratch.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
Me on Twitter
Hurry up vit ze game, I have to be in Stuttgart in time to see kraftverk. Oh, and watch ze CD changer in my trunk…dumbkopf. HEY FUNBOYS, GET A ROOM!
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 6, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rosie will play, he is nice and rested too
Fairweather fans can go to hell
Equal oppurtunity asshole and a proud member of the PPPPP
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It’ll be Rosehill, we all know it.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
If he punches David Clarkson in the face it may be worth it
by ShahofToronto on Dec 6, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Tootoo gets 2 games for running Miller
Is Miller playing already or is he injured again?
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
At least it’s something, though I thought it might be a bit more. Still hilarious that gets a suspension but Lucis’s doesn’t.
loved millers reponse, start filling Tootoo with your blocker and glove.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
Gaustad actually suffered an Upper Body Injury from pummeling Tootoo.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
/queue the “Get fighting out of the game as it just causes injuries!” ranting from the Buffalo media.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 6, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
wasn’t sure what the fallout was.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
If shanny would say looking back now, he got the lucic hit wrong, I could believe there is some credibility in disciplinary hearings.
by jeffgm on Dec 6, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reimer jumps from 3rd to 1st in goaltender All-Star voting
5000 votes ahead of Tim Thomas.
He picked up 87,000 votes last week.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
If we could get Lupul to edge out El Clowno it would be Kessel-Crosby-Lupul as the top 3
by ShahofToronto on Dec 6, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
With Karlsson-Phaneuf top pairing and Reimer in net.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
need to get karlsson out of there, replace with chara
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
That seems unlikely, Karlsson is dominating in the votes right now.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
I love Leaf fans because this has nothing to do with how good a goalie he is.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
FML
I’m stuck in the Buffalo airport for a few hours, after which I’ll be stuck in Detroit over night.
you better believe I’ll be boarding my flight drunk and belligerent.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 6, 2011 3:51 PM EST reply actions
When I left Germany at 20 Yrs of age… I was drunk.. the take off and landing made me sick and I locked myself in the bathroom and was Talking to the Flushable Microphone all take off and landing. Embarrassing. Dont get too drunk that that happens to you as well.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
sage advice my friend. sage advice.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 6, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
The stewardess tried to come in and she unlocked and told me to go sit down and I told her to piss off and kept on herking ! LOL
EMBARRASSING !!!
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
lol. that’s really really funny.
i’m only 3 pints in right now. but my flights still not for another 4 so we’ll see…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 6, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to actually Herk all over that “Snobby I am too beautiful the world should kiss my arse” Stewardess for being a unsympathetic B~~~ch… But I didnt.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
or maybe she was worried about your safety and the airlines liability insurance, there are reasons they make everyone sit in their seats with belts on during takeoff and landing
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 6, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
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oh man ~ of all people ~ Yep your right Jared. Don’t have the energy 2nite.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
logic is the enemy!
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 7, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
An unsympathetic Burch? That’s not a very nice thing to say.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
Burch burch burch burch !!!!
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
I went to Dominican last year
2 people got so drunk in the lounge at the airport that they weren’t allowed on the plane (slowed the rest of us down too, because they had to get their luggage off).
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
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