Armdog Almost Ready
by JP Nikota on Dec 8, 2011 7:01 AM EST
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As per James Mirtle, Colby Armstrong is expected to return from his latest bout of bonitis to play Friday against the Washington Capitals.
"All you have to do is look at our record with Colby in the lineup," Wilson is fond of saying, going back to last season, in reference to Toronto’s 29-19-7 mark with Armstrong healthy.
I'm not sure I agree with Ron Wilson's rationale on this one, but then, I probably wouldn't have signed Armstrong for $3 million per season to begin with, either. I will confess, however, that if there ever was a player that - as far as I have been able to ascertain from my television and computer screens - had what we have come to lovingly refer to as "intangibles", this is the man.
He's got plenty of "jam" on the ice, a clever quip ready every time he steps in front of a camera, a big, goofy smile on his face, and, as far as we know, is one of the most popular men in the dressing room. OK, so we'll never really understand the social dynamics of any NHL team, but I don't think it's a big stretch to say that most Leafs will be glad to have him back. So am I.
Links after the jump.
My First Night at a Leafs Game in Toronto: Some Thoughts
Justin Bourne with a few good notes. Glad to see he's learning.
Dirty Dangle: Hockey Holiday Shopping Ideas
Read. This. Post.
Cycling the Puck
This is a really wonderful article (with nifty diagrams) from dawgbone98 at The Copper & Blue. I highly recommend reading this one.
Researcher Creates Online Library About Concussions
Paul S. Echlin, an Ontario doctor, has started up a databank library fully accessible to both the public and to research and medical professionals. From Jeff Z. Klein at Slap Shot, the NY Times hockey blog.
Sidney Crosby to miss next two games
Thaaaat sucks. News and reaction from PensBurgh.
I've been really swamped with teaching lately, so you'll have to throw in extra links in the comments when you come across other good ones. Happy chatting, y'all.
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nah… he aint my type and I already got some with my wife last night.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LSU Tigers: 13-0
SEC Champions!
by TheOtherAndrew on Dec 8, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
You got some with FLYERROB’s wife, too? Awk-waaaaaaaard……
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
You obviously are HIGH on some kind of wacky weed. Kessel is good as well. Its only by one point dude.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
wait, whats going on with Giroux?
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oh…TSN has Kessel still. I checked there. Those fuckers should get their acts together.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
Four point game
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Must be Tim Brent’s brother, I expect.
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Good to see Colby back
and has everyone noticed that the word “Jam” seems to be the new hype expression on describing players play ? Lavy in philly used it and big ole Wilson used it too.
FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ Bob Wilson JR. ~ July 03rd 1944 - November 06th 2011 ~ ~ I love you Sis & Dad ! Tim Tebow is COOL ! If you want to rip him for being a Mediocre QB in the NFL. fine. But, Dont rip him for his beliefs, thats Childesh ! When did it become Politically Incorrect to be a Born Again Christian ?
Claude Giroux smells like a bog. Kessel will reclaim his title in another 7-1 win over the Washington Capilols
Not to worry. Giroux is shooting at over 20%. He will fall back to earth and Kessel will reclaim his throne on Mount Olympus.
As long as he gets to say “RELEASE THE KRAKEN”
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
Krakens are legends of Nordic origin.
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
by article1 on Dec 8, 2011 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was referring to either one of the horrible Clash of the Titans movies
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
the first is campy now, but was most likely horrible when it debuted.
August 18th is National Chaim Weisswasser day. Celebrate it by buying a new phone.
Campy just means a horrible movie that has now aged… the remake will be campy in 20 years
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a remake of Clash of the Titans?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 8, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Very much so… first rollercoaster I ever went on
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
But Chicago has a 6 flags, the Wisconsin Dells are nearby, and Cedar Point is only 6 hours away.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
I grew up in Virginia… the Kraken just ended up being my first rollercoaster
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ovechkin looked like his old self last night against the Sens. It’s not going to be the same Caps team the Leafs ran over last meeting.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Dec 8, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
but he now has over 50% of the goals that Kessel does
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
Also known as the same amount of points as Shawn Horcoff
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
I really want Ovechkin to get back to being normal Ovechkin. After Friday night of course. The league isn’t really the same without superstars being superstars IMO.
I would agree with you, except after the blackberry thing at the ASG last year… I’m enjoying watching him suck.
To be fair I always thought he was kind of a douche to begin with
by Chi-town leafs on Dec 8, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Giroux is awesome. I’m obviously not a fan of him beating out the Kess, but damn, can he flat out play. Anyone who can make Ryan Miller look that bad is okay in my books.
"I myself am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
the whole division really
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At least Milan Lucic only went after Miller’s head one time.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
I heard Miller got trucked by his own teammate and then hit in the face with a puck last night? Lulz.
Try 5 times (in addition to the one where he got cut because his mask had been knocked off by McNabb). The Flyers were clearly aiming for his head (they scored two goals that way so i can’t exactly blame them)
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Motion to rename “It’s open season on goalies” to “It’s Miller Time”
All in favour?
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
by clrkaitken on Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
DENTAL PLAN
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
LISA NEEDS BRACES
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Aye
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 8, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I was half-listening to some sports talk last night and the guys were discussing how Miller’s aggressive style that made him so effective over the last 5-6 years has been figured out. He regularly is well out of the paint and that can make him vulnerable to contact, and any hard drive to the net can throw him off. He himself said this about the Crosby gold medal goal.
by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
He is not that big of a guy right? I can’t remember ever seeing his height but he looks like 6’1" or so, not a heavy guy either. He probably has to play angles etc aggressively to make up for that.
I think he does it better than anyone in the league and that’s what’s made him an elite goalie, but there are guys his size or smaller that don’t play that way.
by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
He’s 6’4 but not very bulky. Though in this case it wasn’t body contact, it was slap slots from the circles aimed at his helmet.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Wiki says 6’2", but you watch him every night so you would know better than me. I guess he’s taller than i thought he was.
Haha OTF lied to me.
I’ve seen 6’3 and 6’2, but not 6’4. He’s only 175 pounds though and he’s had even lighter playing weights in the past.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
For comparison, he’s lighter than Nathan Gerbe (though he’s mini-hulk) and only 10 pounds heavier than Tyler Ennis.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Miller’s weight ratio is also thrown off by his face hanging lower on one side than the other
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, apparently the book on Miller is to shoot it at his ears…
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Well his dumb lopsided face probably negatively affects his depth perception.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
You gotta shoot low eye.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Dec 8, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His face must be taking steroids.
#GottaAtLeastAsktheQuestion
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a tough place to get at with your glove/blocker – above the shoulder, right past the ear. Either a big shoulder shrug, or a puck of the bucket
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
My Scrivens on the Edge style defeats your Miller Time style
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
Everytime
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
175 lbs according to TSN.ca but that’s still 3 lbs skinnier than Gerbe whose 5’5
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
So you must be happy about this as a Flyers fan.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
by BCapp on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Every year when I buy the new NHL, the first thing I do is go in and edit Phil Kessel’s skating to 99.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
The fact that that isn’t the default setting is a huge oversight by the programmers.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
What is it by default?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
His shot in NHL 11 was like 85/85 power and accuracy. They improved it a little in NHL 12 but it’s still too low.
Any lower than 93 and you shouldn’t be choosing the stats
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
i know a guy,
who knows a guy, that’s close friends with Jeff Gillooly and Shawn Eckhardt. coughgirouxcough
...............................
Frattin ain't easy.
I Lol'd:
The Leafs had a tough time breaking out.
"Tough" is about the most generous word I could use, especially in the first period. The worst part was, the turnovers weren’t caused by some pinching d-man – they were passes thrown up the gut that were dead picked off. It could’ve been worse than a 2-0 deficit after the first.
obligatory: “Does he even watch the games?”
BCWW
Oh I thought we were throwing around memes incorrectly
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Clarification (the quote is from the Bourne post – should have mentioned that!!)
Isn’t this a summary of one of the Leafs’ greatest downfalls from the last 3 years? The inspiration for the hated “To the line but not out” Bowen catchphrase / meme? A huge problem in the Boston games?
Or maybe I’m overgeneralizing… who knows (someone here no doubt). I actually didn’t get to see the first period so maybe the problem was more rampant then than usual?
I…what? He watched the game and made an observation. Just because it’s what they do all the time doesn’t detract from what he said.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
Fair enough. I just lol’d because he’s stating what we’ve all seen time and time again…
And because I’d dearly love not to see it anymore.
I mean generally speaking it’s a common problem for all teams. Just imagine who Rangers fans felt watching LBK running roughshod in the offensive zone.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Good to have Armstrong back. If his impact on the team is anything like Connelly’s was supposedly for Bozak, we can only expect good things. I suppose this will mean Colborne back to the Marlies to light it up with Kadri?
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
I guess the alternative is Dupuis to the press box, Orr to the minors. I’d rather have that, to be honest. Armstrong can more than fill Dupuis’s role and I like what I’ve seen from Colborne.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Dupuis may not score but he seems to kill penalties rather effectively, I see him as more useful than Rosehill.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I think he had his best game against NJ. Or, at least I noticed him more than any other game.
by 9 Dollar Beer on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I’m actually quite satisfied with how Dupuis has played so far (and he’s certainly more useful than Rosehill). That doesn’t mean he can’t be squeezed into the press box in a healthy lineup, though.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not at all. The guy had a breakaway last night and did a whole lot of nothing, which sums up his game for us so far this season. 0 points. Zero. Colton Orr has more points. Yes he can PK, but haven’t we learned from Wallin and Sjostrom that you can replace PKers who can’t do shit else?
by Goosemonster on Dec 8, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
No, he isn’t as much of a liability as Lebda, he’s just totally and completely replaceable with a better player.
by Goosemonster on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
He’s Lebda in the sense that he’s really bad but management can’t or won’t see it until people keep posting stats that show just how atrocious he is.
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
just because he doesn’t have any points, doesn’t mean he’s bad. His play with Steckel on the PK is part of the reason it went 90% over 15 games.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Whats his GA/60 on the PK? Which site shows this?
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
Overall his GA/60 is the lowest on the entire team (he’s also had good luck defensively). I haven’t found the PK stats.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
He’s replacement level. In the sense that he may not be “atrocious” but pretty much anyone else (except for Rosehill or Orr) in his place would likely do a better job.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
#FreeBoyce
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
…so start posting these “atrocious” stats.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’d start with Mirtle’s showing Dupuis is 3rd in GP among pointless
I'm building a beautiful statue, to make sure that no one forgets you
I’m guessing management is already aware that he has zero points. That’s not a very difficult stat to find.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone is replaceable with a better player.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I wouldn’t cry if he was traded straight up for Giroux either.
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
There are very few players I would trade Kessel for straight up, but they do exist.
Giroux
Crosby
Toews
Patrice Bergeron
Malkin has to many injury issues (and, actually, crosby does too). Anybody I missed
#horsingadeadbeat
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
#rockingahousebeat
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
There are better forwards players then Kessel but I don’t see a player that can upgrade Kessel on the RW.
Giroux can play C and RW
#Giroux
No more moral victories, no more excuses. Put up or shut up.
Lebda-free since July 3.
Are you trying to suggest that you think Patrice Bergeron is the 4th best player in the league?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Not quite.
I would only move Kessel straight up for a guy who is:
A bonafide top 3 centre. By Top 3 I mean a guy who can play the toughest 5vs5 minutes on the team and (and win the possession game), and is skilled enough to put up a lot of points.
Is young enough that he has a lot of good years ahead (so no Datsyuk or Thorton).
Doesn`t have injury issues (No Carter or Malkin)
Doesnt play the kind of highly physical game that would really wear you down over time (so no Mike Richards or Kesler).
Kopitar is one I forgot.
So you wouldn’t trade him for Stamkos or Malkin?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
There can be no way this is an exhaustive list
What about Stamkos?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’m not sure I would do it for Stamkos. Honestly, you guys can call me crazy, but I don’t know. Wouldn’t have done it in the summer either, so I’m not just basing this on his current season. I think I’m just a big believer in St.Louis
Nash (though age factors), Patrick Kane, Claude Giroux, Jonny Toews, Crosby, Ovechkin, maybe Ryan
I wouldn’t do it for Nash at this point. I would seriously consider Tavares
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
Kessel for Tavares? That would be a tough decision to make
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I would do Tavares, forgot about him. The list is exhausting though. Nash is a maybe for me, depends how many years he has left.
I would also consider Getzlaf, depending
Yeses: Kane, Giroux, Toews, Crosby, Ovechkin, Hall, Tavares, Kopitar
Maybes: Ryan, Nash, Getzlaf
Probably nots: Keser, Bergeron
Nos: et al
Kesler and Bergeron really belong in this conversation?
What about Malkin, Gaborik, Parise, Vanek even?
Or defenseman like:
Weber, Doughty, etc.
Kesler and Bergeron are both very good players but I think they are a little outclassed in this conversation.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Gaborik, Parise and Vanek are too old. They would also be lateral moves considering the production is similiar. Keserl and Bergeron belong in the conversation because they depend on the rest of your team and if you need an excellent two-way winger. Richards is on the same level as them IMO.
As far as D, I might do it for Weber and Doughty, depending on the rest of our team
I am sorry, I just don’t think Kesler or Bergeron are at the same level as the Crosby’s, Kopitars, and Toews of the world.
I can accept the age problems though.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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In no way are Kesler & Bergeron at the same levels as Crosby, Kopitar or Toews. But its not a list of who you’d prefer, its a list of who you would be willing to swap Kessel straight up for.
If we had more offensive weapons beyond Kessel, through whatever development, I would have to consider swapping him for Bergeron, Richards, or Kesler, if a near-PPG-checking-center would be more beneficial. I wouldn’t swap him for Jordan Staal though, even though Staal is in the same mould.
Skinner & Seguin are considerable as well, though obviously for logistic reasons, I wouldn’t want to do Seguin
Bergeron really isn’t a “near PPG” checking center. His last 5 seasons have all been between 0.60 and 0.73 PPG.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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okay, that’s true, I was misremembering,
though he hasn’t been playing top minutes in Boston, really ever.
he has 2.23P/60, 2.46P/60, 2.62P/60 over the last 3 seasons (the 3rd is this year) as opposed to someone like, say, Toews (who has been right around PPG) and has:
2.15P/60, 2.37P/60, 3.07P/60
or kessel who has:
2.18P/60, 1.83P/60, 3.26P/60
FYI, Stamkos has:
2.56P/60, 2.71P/60, 3.04P/60
all of these stats are only at even strength though
Bergeron put up 22 goals and 57 points last year on Boston, while at the same time (among Bruins forwards with 30 games or more) he was:
2nd in QualComp (behind Peverly)
1st in CorsiRelComp
2nd in CorsiComp
He also didn’t play on the Horton & Lucic line (mostly was with Recchi). He had the highest CorsiREL among forwards. He won the shot battle while he was on the ice.
And he did this all with a 42.7 OzoneStart%.
He also line matched against the Sedins in the final.
In other words, the guy is franchise player calibre. I would trade Kessel for him, build a team around him, and give him really good line mates.
Seguin had 22 points in 74 games last season. He has 5 points in his last 10 games. Maybe it’s a little early to say that he’s in this group?
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
No way I’d do it for Nash simply because of age difference. Check out Stamkos vs St. Louis production today. The man has been PPG since 19.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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I know that, and I should probably add Stamkos to maybe on my list directly above.
I’ve always been advocating Kessel is multi-dimensional but he’s really proving it right this year. As good as Stamkos’ shot is, his passing, even defensively, I’m not sure he’s as good as Kessel.
I don’t care if the PPG says he’s better, I don’t buy it.
Its just laughable. Look at Stamkos’ results vs Kessel’s at the same age. There is no comparison. Stamkos has cracked 40 goals twice (had 51 once), has cracked 90 points twice, vs Kessel has a career high of 36 goals and 64 points and is 2.5 years older.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I don’t care about what Stamkos did 2 or 3 years ago. We’re talking about a swap today. Pretty sure Stamkos isn’t getting any better. If I end up wrong I’ll admit it.
Ovechkin scored 65 in his rookie season, Teemu 76. It doesn’t always go up, despite the norm
Stamkos is mere steps behind him this year and over any longer period is way ahead.
Whatever you clearly aren’t changing your mind, but this screams blue and white disease to me.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’m not going to change my mind right now because I don’t believe it, so it is whatever.
But its not so much blue and white disease as it is “im not sold on stamkos”
Until Tampa Bay drafts Kessel and plays him in their system, with their players, we can’t objectively say who is better, we can only say whose stats are better, which are obviously Stamkos.
I’m not talking about this years stats either because Stamkos has the same goals which are the important parts.
But I think Kessel’s shot is just as good if not better as Stamkos’. Kessel is also faster, and from what I’ve seen this year, he can create space better with his stickhandling. If Kessel stops dazzeling and Stamkos starts looking better to me, than I’ll say that Stamkos in the least is more dangerous right now. If Stamkos continues to look superior to Kessel than I’ll say he is better.
But I’m not convinced that Stamkos is better just because he has great stats at a young age, because, to me, he doesn’t look better.
Anyway, we’ll disagree.
I think he’s been unlucky. His Corsi Rel is respectable.
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by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
You think Dupuis has been unlucky?
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Watch his breakaway against Brodeur and ask if that’s a player fighting bad luck. For a guy who was ‘a scorer in the Q’, you’d think he’d remember how to at least try something on a breakaway. He didnt even do anything. He shot from like 5 feet away into the middle of brodeur’s pads.
Getting 0 points this far in takes a huge lack of skill, not bad luck
His hands are roughly as good as mine
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think you play as many point-free minutes as he has without being unlucky. Opposing goaltenders have a save percentage of 100% when he’s on the ice – how can luck not be a factor?
I’m not arguing that he isn’t replaceable; in fact I started this off by saying Armstrong should replace him.
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by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Is that an actual stat from somewhere or just an extension of “he has zero points, therefore we haven’t scored”.
I was assuming he might have been on the ice for a goal or two and just not been involved in the official scoring…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, it’s an actual stat. The Leafs have scored zero goals this year while Dupuis is on the ice.
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by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
When steckel scored the EN against NTR, Dupuis was on with him. Dupuis was standing in the paint if I recall…
True. I guess EN are subtracted from that stat.
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by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
As I said below, the link you posted is only for 5 on 5 play.
It was either 4 v 6 or 5 v 6 (I don’t remember) for the EN goal.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, ouch.
Consider my mind altered based on that. Not sure we can afford a roster spot for an “enforcer” and another one for a “PK specialist”. Jeebus, if Steckel played between Dupuis and Rosey we’d have a 4th line of specialists…
Punching
Killing off those punching penalties
Winning the faceoffs to kill off those punching penalties.
I’m thinking we can find a better 4th line than that.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s 5 on 5.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
heh, he actually has a team 0 percent shooting% while on the ice. his PDO is .960. he is getting unlucky
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by pho king awesome on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
14.29% on the PK
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by pho king awesome on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
You shouldn’t be.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
BAD ASSET MANAGEMENT RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE… oh wait. it’s Colton Orr.
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"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Remember when he went bananas on gaustad and got that bizzare triple minor?
good times
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure, Calgary’s new GM isn’t quite as dumb as the previous one.
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It’s either that Jay Feaster is really misguided about how to run a team, or there is some pressure from above to not blow the whole thing apart. Or he is trying but that whole having 11 players with some form of an NMC is getting in the way.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
To use logic heard often around here, they don’t care about winning since the stands are always full, despite having won 3 playoff series in 20+ years. Calgary fans are sheep!
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“hey guys, I am going to trade you all for the rebuild”
“no”
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I really just hope they trade everyone but Kipper and Iginla.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
i hope they trade both but end up with phaneuf packages
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I’m trying to figure out how it’s possible to trade Matt Stajan without taking back Gomez.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
They’re basically killing his value by scratching him and playing him on the third and 4th line.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is the other option to move him up to the Top 6? Because I think that’s ensuring a nice gift of Yakupov.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
He’ll put up enough points to get you something decent, AND help the team reach a lottery position, it’s the Matt Stajan way.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
He played top 6 (1C I believe) for mostly all of the first half season and most of last year. He still didnt really put up points. Sad that Comeau already has as many points as he does.
If by sad you mean hilarious. Time to update STAJAN-WATCH!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
True story, I used to score a shit ton of shorthanded goals with Colton Orr. For some reason the default lines had him on the PK and I never bothered to change it because I could just pull off a Tim Brent → Colton Orr one timer goal way too often
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Depends
Whats the word on MacA?
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Heh – he’s skating with Connolly and Crabb. I guess that’s better than other alliterative lines the Leafs could put together.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
its a C-esta!
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let’s hope they can catch the opposition napping.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
The other name would be the A-C-C line for home dominance.
But now thinking of it, the top line is the same, this is probably the third line which means number two is Grabbo MacA and? Kulemin? Frattin? Do they sit Kule a game cause he’s struggling to produce points? Frattin seems like a waste on the fourth line.
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Frattin doesn’t have to clear waivers does he? I’d send him down too.
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sounds like Mac and Colby will be ready for washington, so we might see it soon
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
mac was injured? wow I missed that. No wonder I didnt hear his name the other night…
by Goosemonster on Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
it all makes sense now….I think I missed the normal game intro where they provide that kind of info.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
We were talking yesterday about the idea of a Suter-Phaneuf top-pairing. I had the thought that a Phaneuf-Bouwmeester top pair wouldn’t be all that bad either, then I laughed a Calgary for a long time.
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how funny would it be if Burke traded for J-bo?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Going to go ahead and say, very.
I wonder if the opportunity of playing with Phaneuf is part of what drew Bouwmeester to Calgary.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
they were talking up how he was an Alberta boy and that is where he wanted to be, life long flames fan or something before calgary traded for his right
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, but still, I feel like the two together would make a good top-pair. Although Bouw is super expensive.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather just sign suter as a UFA
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Trick is convincing Burke to pay the man what he’ll likely want, and prove that TOR can be a playoff contender.
Making playoffs this year is big for lots of reasons.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
It definitely is. Also the whole, we spend much more money than Nashville would be a bonus for him.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
He’s only 26, that’s crazy, we have to lock that shit down. I feel like he’s young enough that Burke could justify offering him 10 years. He could still be playing at 37.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
when does the new CBA get decided? I’m sure that will impact what ever happens
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Over the summer… Not sure how free agency will work this year. I don’t remember following it closely in 04.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like he’s young enough that Burke could justify offering him 10 years.
Cmon. He said it would take a really special player to offer more than 5 years.
I could see him doing 7 and that’s it, and only if thats what it took to make it happen.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I got a little carried away there. Point being that it seems like Suter is probably at the top of his list of D men he wants that are not on the team already.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Burke probably has his eyes on Suter and Parise, but I doubt he is pulling a JFJ and betting they will make it to free agency
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
You gotta think both those players will want to be locked into contracts before the new CBA goes into effect.
No one knows what will happen then… maybe limiting to term length/ contract size.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’d prefer Suter over Bouw, and I’d prefer the UFA signing over a trade, I’m just saying, that must have been Calgary’s mindset, they complement each other really well. Look at the top pairs in the NHL for the last while:
Weber – Suter
Keith – Seabrook
Nieds – Pronger
You have the one offensive-minded D (phaneuf, keith, weber) and then the stay-at-home, smooth skating (suter, seabrook, bouw), though in the case of Anaheim I guess both guys were superb at both roles
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Leafs coach Ron Wilson says he thinks both Clarke MacArthur and Colby Armstrong will be good to go tomorrow in Washington.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And Wilson is just straight up telling the media he hasn’t decided what goalie to play tomorrow yet.
C’mon buddy, we know it’s Reimer.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wilson: And I’ll be starting Gustavsson (snicker). That outta keep the little S.O.Bs occupied.
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve told my wife that Gustavsson’s starting. Hope that’s cool with you guys.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
let’s show Semin what true character is.
by Goosemonster on Dec 8, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I finally got around to watching Moneyball last night
and I couldn’t help but laugh at that one scene near the beginning where all the scouts and management are all discussing which players to go after in the offseason. And all of the descriptions of what they should go after were ridiculous intangibles.
I imagined PPP being in that room torching every single one of their arguments.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
All but a given the Leafs send Joe Colborne down later today. It can’t be anyone who requires waivers, leaving Colborne, Frattin and Aulie.
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Having not yet looked at stats my inclination would be to send Frattin down.
Your inclination is probably wrong. Colborne hasn’t dazzled lately. Frattin has been beasting it all over the ice even when he isn’t scoring.
Send Aulie and Colborne down if both Mac and Armstrong are ready.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Scratch that
Mac was never on the IR so no need to send anyone down for his return.
So only one goes down. I’d send Aulie or Colborne but I dunno. Id love to see a Colborne/Kadri line with the Marlies.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I would like to send them both down if they won’t be playing. Don’t feel like watching them in the press box. Team practices are nice, but would rather them be playing.
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I’d love to know what the org. actually is thinking about Aulie right now.
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Just like the #FreeLuca, I hate prospects being called up to be benched. Benching is for guys like Dupuis. Prospects should be playing osmewhere.
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Poor Caputi man, that guy can’t catch a break.
I feel like he’s all but been written off.
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Pretty sure. Its quite odd. He was really good on Pittsburgh’s AHL team and good for us as a prospect his first year… Weird.
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He also had more goals and points (IIRC similar PPG and GPG) than Kadri in his last year of OHL.
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Size and strength can hide a lot of flaws in junior hockey
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He has.
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Could be a career Marlie though.
He’s still only 23 – younger than a bunch of other “prospects” like Mueller, Greg Scott, Joey Crabb, Gyspers, Mikus…. may eventually be one of those career AHLers that eventually becomes a depth bottom 6er.
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Maybe its trouble getting over last years injury and he turns it around in his late 20s Crabb style. No complaints if that were to happen.
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Also younger than Aulie and Owuya.
Still has time. I keep thinking he was older (like 25)
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Nah he is really young. Maybe he falls under the “we give up on prospects too soon” category at least based on his age. On the other hand his play over the last 2 years has been unimpressive (of course his injuries have limited him to very few games).
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He really has.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’m at peace with it.
Funny story, I was at the Keg on Esplanade and saw him walk out while I was waiting for my table.
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He has really taken quite the tumble down the depth chart.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when we hoped he could be a 2nd/3rd line tweener? Goood times.
Oh wait, those were bad times. The Leafs were terrible when we traded Poni. Anyway, it was nice to have more hope for Luca.
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They were reasonable hopes based on his productions and scouts reviews of him. Most prospects don’t pan out. It sucks but those are the breaks.
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who did the Leafs draft with the Skoula pick?
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Do we lose him at the draft if not signed? And if so does that mean we get another 5th?
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He was a 2010 pick, so…maybe he needs to be signed? He might re-enter the draft? I’m sure we don’t get a compensatory pick just because we elect not to sign him.
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Nevermind
The rule only applies to first rounders. From hockey’s futures:
The second case in which the league awards a compensatory pick is when a team does not sign to an entry-level contract a former first round selection. The team is compensated with a second round pick for the current draft in the exact same selecting position as when the player was originally drafted. In illustration, a player taken in position number 17 in 2000 draft and was not signed, the drafting team will be awarded a compensatory pick in the number 17 slot of the second round.
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Colborne vs Frattin
Some stats
Similar TOI.
Colborne appears to have a higher P/60 (2.2 vs 1.4), but entirely as a result of second assists, which make up half of Colborne’s 2.2.
Both appear to be facing sheltered compitition. Frattin slightly moreso.
Colborne has been getting better linemates.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
So yeah, Colborne is probably the right one to send down. I was leaning Frattin more based on the fact that Colborne has already spent more time down there, and Frattin might benefit more from a demotion comparatively.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin started the season with a ridiculous unlucky sh% even though he was getting a lot of shots and driving the net hard.
Now he’s finally getting some small rewards for his hard work, like to see if that can keep going.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne has been getting better linemates.
I don’t see how you can argue this when Frattin’s been playing with two of grabbo-Kuli-mac for most of the season!?!??
Alas, it matters not as Colborne was just sent down.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure how QUALteam is calculated, but I would guess (if your claim of them playing together is true) it doesn’t think very highly of grabbo-Kuli-mac?
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin has been playing well. I still say: send Orr down! He needs the playing time, and it’s not like any one will pick him up on waivers.
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by Back In Black on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Man if they haven’t sent Orr down by now, I don’t know why they would now.
That’s the dream though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
This we were able to scratch him, next year we`ll put him on waivers.
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin is playing exactly the role we envisioned, 2nd or 3rd line guy who can score, drive the net, and is defensively responsible. Why send him down?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Is he defensively responsible? I havent noticed anything in particular.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Read: Not a defensive liability.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Frattin is 4th of 17 forwards in GA/60.
Also, can I just say that Armstrong’s first five games don’t provide the most inspiring statistics? He’s going to have to be way better if we want to consider him an upgrade over Colborne at this point.
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Different player with different skill set.
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I’m curious to know whether or not the Leafs draw more penalties when Colby plays. My gut says yes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
His Penalties Drawn / 60 is 2nd highest on the team behind Colton Orr at 5 on 5.
I too was shocked.
5th highest last season behind Rosehill, Kadri, Lupul and MacArthur
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Yeah only thing is that the Leafs draw a lot of penalties in general, they were 3rd in the league last year in PP opportunities.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad our PP was so shit last year.
I hope we keep drawing penalties like a motherfucker this season, you know, when we seem to actually have a decent chance of scoring.
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We’re currently drawing them at the same pace as last season, just about 4 a game.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
This is one reason I don't think PP% is the best metric in isolation.
A combination of PP% (Powerplay effectiveness) and Absolute # of PP goals (measure of both powerplay effectiveness and powerplay draws) is more interesting to me.
Same goes for PK of course. Atrocious PK% sucks but if we’re only taking 50% of the average # of PKs? Good stuff.
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Last year I’m pretty sure he was like 2nd or 3rd, behind Kadri and I wanna say Rosehill for some reason
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True, but I’m struggling to find positives in his first five games. In 5v5, it has been zero production and inadequate defense against weak compition while playing less than 10 minutes a game.
He hasn’t let in a SHG, but hasn’t been leaned on that much 5v4.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
5 games.
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Yes, 5 games in the NHL are worth 10 points. I dont see how this is relevant to the conversation
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It was 5 games and we didn’t lose any in regulation. How is that for positive?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Those were the days.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
What does that do? Does that blow your mind? That just happened!
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A pretty good one, I’ll admit. But it appears they did that despite Armstrong’s play. If wins shouldn’t be used to measure a goalie, what do they mean to a third line winger?
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not, I was more emphasizing the fact it’s 5 games.
Kessel went on a 5 game goal scoring drought. I wouldn’t use those games to judge his season.
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Also, COlborne has played 9 games this year. So kinda hard to really gauge. Based on age and experience, I want Armstrong in the lineup on Friday with COlborne getting topline minutes on teh Marlies
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That’s not really comparable at all. I was talking about way more than goals scored, and we have more recent games to judge Kessel by. With Armstrong we only have 5. All I was saying is he has to do better than his first five.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
All I was saying is he has to do better than his first five.
No that isn’t what you said.
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Very good, it wasn’t that verbatim.
Also, can I just say that Armstrong’s first five games don’t provide the most inspiring statistics? He’s going to have to be way better if we want to consider him an upgrade over Colborne at this point.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
The issue is your comparing him to COlborne since I assume because he got sent down. The problem is, you are comparing a player whose game revolves around being a shit, board play, penalty killing and basically 3rd line play to a guy who the Leafs are trying to be a skilled, top 6 player. It’s not a fair comparison. The Leafs absolutely made the right call of sending COlborne down.
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I wasn’t disputing the correctness of sending him down. Obviously Armstrong deserves the opportunity when healthy.
I don’t care that Colby spends a bit of time on the PK, or even that he crosschecks, he has to be at least adequate 5v5 because the vast majority of the game is played 5v5. Therefore, I believe a 5v5 comparison factoring in TOI, quality of competition/teammates, production, line production, and goals against is a fair comparison. And yes, I am aware that Colby has only played 5 games.
by A Lindros Jaw on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
The timing couldn’t be any more perfect, I’m going to the Bulldogs/Marlies game tomorrow night.
I have no problem with sending Colborne down. He’s not being sent down for underperforming, there’s just no room for him. He’s been an adequate placeholder through this rash of injuries and he goes back down with a better idea of what he needs to improve on. This is a positive to me.
Kadri/Colborne/D’Amigo line <3
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on lines now that Armdog is back
assuming Colbourne goes down:
LBK
For obvious reasons.
Macarthur – Grabbo – Armstrong
Despite his scoring ‘struggles’, Grabbo has still been a solid two-way centre. Put Army here and you have a line that can play 200 feet against good players, cycle, and score.
Frattin – Connolyngus – Kulemin
Sheltered scoring. Put Kulemin here to help him get his groove back.
Dupuis/Rosehill – Steckel – Crabb
FCK as a third line is just awesome.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one that watched the third period of the devils game? Clearly Grabbo, kule, and fratts still have that cycling chemistry from the time of mac’s suspension. Why not carry the momentum of that line into next game atleast, and have 3 solid scoring lines since connolly looks like he can setup a blind man. If anything is going to get kule of that snide, i think it would be playing background to the frat/grabo party. knock in some ugly goals. We’re looking for size and strength in our top 6, and i think frat party provides a hint of that. Give him big time minutes and see what he can do. Plus if mac is still out, he should be guaranteed that spot.
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lines at practice
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel,
Crabb-Connolly-Armstrong,
Frattin-Grabovski-Kulemin,
Colborne-Dupuis-Steckel.
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If MacArthur is good to go tomorrow, gotta imagine he takes Crabb’s spot, and Crabb takes Colborne’s.
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Sounds about right.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why it’s hard to believe. His PPG rates have always been impressive. His GP has not.
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Im just curious to see later in the season if Connolly gets a chance on the first line making loops and phil even more dangerous.
When Bozak stops putting up points you can bet it will happen.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Nah it’ll have to be to the point where they need to “get Kessel going”
Or something mid-game if Bozak is looking bad, Wilson will shake up lines.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why wait, if putting them together expands our lead in those close games like tuesday night, I’d prefer sooner than later.
Because Bozak is doing fantastic in that position right now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bozak has 12 points in 13 games. I’m not sure what slump we want to talk about, but he definitely isn’t in one now.
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Lombardi might eventually come back too.
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious from dirtydangle
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by jimmyp22 on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Thats the way it should happen
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Looks like he’ll take Frattin’s spot judging by those lines….
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Wilson has been sticking to that Connolly-MacArthur setup recently. Maybe Wilson reunites MGK, but I’d bet he prefers to put Crabb on the fourth line than Frattin.
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Too many players! What a cluster it’s going to be when Lombardi comes back
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It's not too many players.
We’ve just grown accustomed to having not enough good ones to fill out an entire roster.
Sending Frattin down wouldn’t be a terrible thing.
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I mean, non-replacement-level players on the 4th line!? YES PLEASE
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We talk about Carolina having a bunch of ex leafs, and Calgary used to have a bunch.
We have 3 former Sabres, and at least one of them is always broken.
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MacArthur Connolly and who?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 8, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
he was never a sabre
calgary, Phoenix, Nashville and toronto
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit! Who am I thinking of?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Dec 9, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I still say that its a sin not having Connolly on the first line IMO. Bozak is not a first line centre, Connolly kinda is.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
splitting up offense, Kessel and Lupul just need Bozak, who is pretty good in his own right
putting Connolly with others increases their offense way more than it would with Bozak there
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I want to agree but I cannot argue with Bozak producing. He is putting up serious points between those two.
Ideally we’d have a higher-end C there but I don’t argue with success.
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The depth that Bozak on the 1st line and Connolly on the 3rd line creates is great.
Maybe I don’t give Bozak enough credit for his production simply because he’s skating between Lupul and Kessel.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’d put Connolly back with Kessel. A Frattin – Bozak – Army line has a little more jam.
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Can’t wait to see what Kadri-Bozak-Armstrong can do
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
It seemed pretty great in the preseason from what remember
I like Frattin but I would rather have Kadri up and have thought this pretty much all year
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Good news @armdog and Clarke Mac ready to go.
From the coach himself
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
The list of reason why I follow members of the hockey MSM on twitter is slowly dwindling.
More than anything I enjoy interacting, but line-up notes were the biggest thing.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Michalek has 17 goals
wtf?
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Ottawa wins the Heatley trade.
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I’ve always been a fan, but I thought his career (at least as a top 3 forward) was done after the summer before last because of his knees. If he weren’t a sen I’d be happy to see this.
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I was a big fan when he was a Shark. Then of course had to hate his stupid face when he became a Senator.
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Who's got two thumbs and is going to buy Marlies tickets this weekend?
This guy.
Might be my last chance to see these two play together in the AHL.
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That Marlies team is going to be so good.
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They’re already 1st in their division by 6 points, 8th in the league
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Then it’s time for them to become 1st in the league!!1
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Question:
Does anyone remember if Burke’s self-imposed roster freeze includes sending players down/up from the Leafs/Marlies?
I realize there would be exceptions in the case of injury, but I don’t remember if last year he said that was something he would or wouldn’t do.
BTW that self-imposed deadline is tomorrow at 1pm, so if no changes/trades happen before then don’t expect them until the new year.
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Merci. For some reason I remember having this same discussion last year, I just didn’t remember the outcome.
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Is it on a Friday? If so, I’m there.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
It may have involved that when he was in Anaheim and his farm team was likely thousands of miles away.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 8, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Anaheim to Syracuse is 2,705 miles away.
Poor J.F. Jacques.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t he suspended?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
The idea behind the freeze is that no one likes to move during the holidays, or spend Christmas wondering where they stand with their new team. So Toronto-to-Toronto and within the same franchise doesn’t apply.
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I get the mentality, but I can never quite be sure with Burke’s self-imposed moral code.
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I think it falls under the “Player’s GM” reputation he works on. I doubt he will have a problem honoring it this year, as he isn’t really in a back-against-the-wall, need-to-trade-NOW position.
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Okay, so bringing her a cafe mocha
Was a really really good idea, it pretty much made her day. Thanks for all of the input yesterday guys!
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:13 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Seconded. Chris “Get me a damn Cafe Mocha” Stoikoff.
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Sorry
You didn’t say please.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Get it now bitch!
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You also do not have breasts.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Pics? Preferably nude?
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
You can milk anything with nipples
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This is like that episode of Seinfeld where Jerry is dating a girl but George is helping him the whole way.
Maybe working together we can do the work of one, average man
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Ha ha ha.
A little notice would have been nice!
And George, don’t skimp on the invitations.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you were giving it after her last exam
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BCWW
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Haha was gonna say this
If I decided to get flowers I think I would have waited. But for something like a cafe mocha that she could enjoy while studying I thought it was worth a shot
It was. :)
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Awww…. smoochie smoochies.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good. Call.
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by MapleLeafMole on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I want to play 2 of my four goalies.
Categories are W, GAA, S%, SO.
They are
Schneider vs Montreal (Luongo confirmed for the start)
Niemi vs Dallas (Leftwinglock thinks him but not confirmed)
Hiller vs St Louis (Leftwinglock thinks him but not confirmed)
Montoya vs Chi (Montoya Confirmed).
I am leaning towards Niemi and I don’t know. I want the starts as our S% and GAA are comparable but he was 2 wins to my 0.
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Schneider and Niemi would be my picks
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve only got Giguere starting tonight which is kind of lame, it’s so much fun fielding a team of backup goaltenders
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'd want Montoya but NYI vs CHI is scary.
Don’t play Schneider, Luongo is confirmed.
I’d play Niemi and Hiller. Fucking Hiller.
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Oh, if Luongo is confirmed then yeah go with Hiller. The off chance that he won’t suck is better than the chance of the Islanders playing well against Chicago.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
FUCKING Hiller
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by pho king awesome on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
If it looks like the wins category is a lost cause, i’d go Neimi and Montoya. The islanders will probably lose, but Montoya seems to put up decent numbers.
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Thursday and Saturday night is like 2/3rds of the week. Wins aren’t a lost cause yet.
His goalies for the record are Thomas, Rask, Hedberg, and Elliot
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Thanks for the advice everyone
For now I’ll go with Hiller/Niemi. If starters are updated or change I may switch it up.
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Oh noes
I am asking a board of generally knowledgeable hockey fans for their advice in fantasy hockey. I must be crazy!
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Wait, if this is for PPPPP2 then forget everything I just said. And bench all goalies.
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Nah interclass league. Don’t you have Hiller in PPPPP2?
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Shit I do. And he’s been awful.
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PPP fire drill topic change time
Who else likes beer!
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by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
HULK HOGAN
BEST ALL TIME OR BESTEST
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Hulk wasn’t in Princess Diaries, Andre the Giant was. Thus Andre the Giant is bestest of all time.
LOGIC’D
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Shit
Princess Bride!!!
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i’d sooner get involved in a land war in Asia than try and change topics on this board.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
On that note
Roussimoff has been unofficially crowned “The Greatest Drunk on Earth”61 for once consuming 119 12-US-fluid-ounce (350 ml) beers in 6 hours.62 On an episode of WWE’s Legends of Wrestling, Mike Graham said André once drank 156 16-US-fluid-ounce (470 ml) beers in one sitting, which was confirmed by Dusty Rhodes. Such feats can be attributed to his large size, which meant it took higher amounts of alcohol to inebriate him. In her autobiography, The Fabulous Moolah Lillian Ellison writes that André drank 127 beers in a Reading, Pennsylvania hotel bar and later passed out in the lobby. The staff could not move him and had to leave him there until he awakened.63
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Yeah dude, there are some epic stories out there about his drinking prowess.
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I was not aware of these.
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I saw a Biography on him once. When he had to have surgery the doctors basically had to ask him how much alcohol it took to get him drunk as a guideline for how much anesthetic they should use, since no one had ever done it on a guy that big before. He could drink two 40-oz of vodka or hard liquor in a sitting.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
Anesthetic is way more an art than people realize.
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anaesthesiologists get a shit ton of cash for a reason
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
They are among the highest paid physicians. They are also the second most sued physicians.
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To be honest though
The difference in income in physicians who earn their money in the system (so taking out non-medically necessary aesthetic surgeries and other such stuff) isn’t that drastic.
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
recently I discovered how much pharmacists make, and how much schooling they need. I guess I’d never really thought about the field in depth, but I was blown away
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
They are a very valuable member of the health care community. Too often disparaged.
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they deserve big bucks just for having to deal with the people they deal with on a daily basis, cranky seniors and pain killer addicts by the bushel
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
They are also a very accessible health care professional. They are really knowledgeable and will answer questions for free if you call them.
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I think you wouldn’t be able to stop pissing yourself if you drank that much beer in one sitting.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Dec 8, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I would do something like that wouldn’t I
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Montoya has been great lately. I doubt he gets a shutout but you can count on an okay S% and maybe the win. Hiller is safer with regards SV% but you won’t be getting a win there.
Montoya has been good but Chicago would scare me away from playing him
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what happened to me.
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Niemi is confirmed on dailyfaceoff…still nothing on Hiller though. I know Carlyle used to keep his cards close to the vest on starting goalies but Boudreau’s in there now so…
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
woo
I’m assuming defensive dman from his stats
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=13901
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Ohh
He was also drafted in the 3rd round by Domino Minsk of the KHL draft.
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back off KHL, get your own sandwich
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EINhsx_JxkE
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
Yarrr
A big and strong stay-at-home defenseman. Granberg plays a very solid defensive game and rarely gets caught out of position. He plays a simple and safe game with the puck. Does not shy away from the rough stuff, but could probably play even more physical. Hockey sense is decent, but Granberg will never be a high-scoring defenseman.
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I’ve heard Douglas Murray comparisons from folks that have watched Granberg. Sounds pretty good.
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We of the “bootyful” persuasion prefer the term “low centre of gravity” if you don’t mind.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Dec 8, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
It also looks like he has secured a spot in the full SEL instead of one of their div 2 leagues this year. Thats good for him. As the cutoff date for his draft was (I believe) Sept 15 he was one of the youngest by being born on August 28th.
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Wilson talks about Dion
"In San Jose, we thought as long as you had your head up, you could entice him to running around a bit, especially in the neutral zone," Wilson said on Thursday. "He was always looking for a hit, and when defencemen are caught, they are not back to defend. He did not use his stick very well.
Him is Dion Phaneuf
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Dec 8, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No this must be false
Players can’t learn and develop. The player he was 4 years ago when RW was on SJ is the player he will always be (except sucking more because he is older now).
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In 2008-2009 he averaged 2:43 of SH TOI/Game he’s at 3:13 /game this season.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
You weren’t taking me seriously, were you?
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I was just adding to the discussion.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 8, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was making a sandwich,
not really paying attention to the TV and all of a sudden something captured my attention and i had to see what it was. I look and it was a commercial with a behind the scenes clip of Dallas Eakins talking to the team. HOLY SHIT, i didn’t even need to know what he was talking about, i was listening.
can’t wait to see what this guy brings to an NHL team. Instant super fan.
...............................
Frattin ain't easy.
shark sandwich?
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by jimmyp22 on Dec 8, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
shit sandwich
Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.
by article1 on Dec 8, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
GIANT DOUCHE
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They didn’t write that. Where’d they write that?
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
They’re treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality
"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Breaking news that no one cares about.
Sabres now the youngest team in the NHL.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
thats what happens when everyone over 25 gets hurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Dec 8, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Pah, only seven rookies on the roster currently*.
(Does not include Ehrhoff’s replacement when he gets tarred and feathered for not being a shutdown defenseman)
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Most MSM count what the actual roster that’s being iced
But ya it probably would be the youngest right now if you have so many hurt.
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where do you get this informations
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Capgeek
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Pff, that isn’t necessarily your roster on any given night though.
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It’ll be less than that because Leino is going to be suspended and replaced with someone two years younger.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: Transferred to IR Jail.
"I know its a viable strategy and all, but i’d prefer the Flyers not try to take off Miller’s head with every shot."
Question
What is a Group 6 UFA? I understand how you become one, but I don’t understand what it means.
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I think it’s a CBA term used to distinguish a different kind of UFAs
i.e. one group is “anybody can sign him”, another group is “anyone can sign him, if he clears waivers”
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Weird. From my research there are Group 2 FA (RFA’s), Group 3 FA (typical UFA’s), and group 6 FA’s. This is how someone becomes one:
These players, whose contracts have expired, are age 25 or older, have completed three or more professional seasons, and (i) in the case of a player other than a goaltender, have played less than 80 NHL games (regular-season and playoff), or (ii) in the case of a goaltender, have played less than 28 NHL games (regular-season and playoff).
Also the player has to opt to become one (otherwise they are an RFA).
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CBA is weird.
I’m sure the next CBA will be weirder.
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Very weird. I understand how they can become one. I just don’t understand what it means.
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the different groups are probably left over from prior CBA’s, they get rid of certain Groups, but for whatever reason just keep the old names.
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 8, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know if anybody else caught this
But it seems the good folks over at Grantland are at it again. Scroll down to the section “Chirping Like a Champ” and what do I find. A link to PPP’s very own In Which Ron Wilson Trolls Damien Cox page.
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
In my post or on the Grantland page?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
“Favorite movies: Liar,Liar; The Invention of Lying; Big Fat Liar. HaHa!” Later, GM Brian Burke weighed in: “I love the quote about liars in sports. Many gainfully employed in the media.” Tip-top trolling, gentlemen.
The part I bolded was the link
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I thought that might get a giggle around here
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
snicker
TWEET AT ME BRO
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hey I’ve been busy the past two days. Somebody give me the executive summary of the last two FTBs.
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I missed most of them too, but what I gleaned
People like hockey and the Maple Leafs but often have differing opinions about them.
Cafe Mocha gets you laid. Tim’s may make a commercial about it.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
It wasn’t really.
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But it was rewarding.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
by Chris Stoikoff on Dec 8, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
so you went with the coffee? or the flowers?
by Nigel Cadbury on Dec 8, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
People like hockey and the Maple Leafs but often have differing opinions about them.
Best
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Dec 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Detroit scores 5 goals on PHX in the 1st
Holy shit
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Jesus, Montreal has 2 goals?Both scored by newbies?
Thanks a lot, Luongo.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
aaaaaaaand michalek takes the goal scoring lead
elephant shell
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if it wasn’t for the Sens stink I’d be rootin for him. I liked him in san jose.
but this is an unexpected twist in the heatley for nothing trade. all of a sudden it looks like they got something. I don’t like it.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
yeah I was pissed when Ottawa got him in that trade.
It’s also interesting to see someone from Ottawa at the top of the scoring race this season, since no one really expected anyone from Ottawa to be at the top of anything.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 8, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
What about the draft lottery?
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I had Florida pegged for that. They’ve been the biggest surprise to me this season.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Luongo looks awfull
Eric Cole 5 hole? Jeesh
by ChrisFromParadise on Dec 8, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Man
Just saw Phaneuf interviewed after practice, and he is just fucking BEAMING and on the verge of giggliness when they ask about Army . Never seen him like that. That’s love, boys.
I love this team!!
"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Ahahahahaha Sens blew 3-1 lead, down 4-3 to NJ.
TWEET AT ME BRO
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let’s just hope it’s not another 3 point game
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
I enjoyed that rare bruins loss.
Panthers might be better then is generally thought.
And great game by Theodore in net.
I have thomas and theodore in the pool. I played Thomas naturally. My 4th benched shutout of the season.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
yeah I’ve got about 3 of those as well this season. most of my players are underperforming as well (e.g., Ovechkin, Thorton, Richards). It’s killing me.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Dec 8, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
TWO GAME LOSING STREAK! OMFG SLUMP!!!11
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Dec 8, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Weaver. Why are any of us surprised?
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by nhlcheapshot on Dec 8, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of blown leads, Vancouver just tied the game. Montreal blew a 3-0 lead too.
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Those 3-0 leads, they aren’t safe you know. ;)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
Ugh
Four 3 point games involving Eastern Conference teams tonight
Ugh.
Although lulz to both OTT and MON for collapses.
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Oh snap
Tampa is sending down Brett Connolly to play at the World Juniors
GO CANADA
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OTPP share of MLSE sold? Anyone with Twitter can confirm?
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
Looks like we need a new name
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
From G&M
Rogers and BCE have reached a draft agreement with the Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan to acquire about 80 per cent of MLSE, in the range of $1.3B
Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- There's a Loblaws on Carelton?!
That soft goal gave me a hard Colboner...
Supplemental from G&M
The deal has not been finalized and still may fall apart, but the companies were in talks late Thursday night, and sources close to the situation said most of the key details had been worked out.
Come get your duds in order 'cuz we're bound to cross the water, HEAVE AWAY, me jollies, HEAVE AWAY -- There's a Loblaws on Carelton?!
That soft goal gave me a hard Colboner...
If this means I can watch all Leafs games in one location after the current TV deal is up, I’m all for it. Though somehow I doubt it
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
You probably have to sign a 3 year leaf loyalty contract
by jeffgm on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And just when everything seemed to be going so well
OK to go!
by Saanich West on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing about Armstrong. Re: Intangibles
It’s fair to say Colby Armstrong dressed is a large morale booster for the team – he’s vocal, chatty on the bench, and chirps like the elder Muppets hecklers. But his +/- hovers around 0, he’s not a major point source in and of himself, making him third/fourth line material. How can one seemingly harmless player mean so much to the team?
The benefit to having Armstrong with the leafs is his boardwork, backchecking, and harassment. He’s probably one of the best Leafs on the boards – able to keep a play dead in the opponents zone for big globs of time, even when outnumbered. He also seems to do equally well when called to dig the puck out of the boards. The guy has a knack for it.
He also has a knack for backchecking, and one-man forward play. Colby Armstrong is, straight up, a fuckin’ thief. How many times has Armstrong appeared seemingly out of nowhere in the neutral ice, lift the opponent’s stick, and shut down their breakout cold? How many times has he been in the way of a breakout pass, and forced a turnover? I wish someone was tallying them – at least once a game, he has some miraculous steal that stops the opponents play dead-on-arrival. Then he goes and rubs it in their faces – he’s like our Burrows, or Avery in that regard. In terms of reading the opponent’s play, he is top notch.
As a result, though he’s not much for points, when Colby Armstrong is on the ice he makes it very difficult for the opposing team to gain and hold momentum against us. He doesn’t score much, but good luck trying to cross into the Leafs zone.
This fully complements the Leafs’ “run and gun” – where missed passes or turnovers would slow up our play, and force us to do defence(which we don’t like), Armstrong acts as a one-man bottleneck. He keeps the play in the other zone – in comes the scoring lines to do damage. He saps the opponents breakout, whether blocking passes and forcing a regroup, buying time on the boards, or outright robbing someone and getting the puck deep again – in comes the scoring lines to do damage.
By locking down the opponent, he helps the Leafs maintain and ride the momentum.
And yes this was probably said above. It’s late and I have exams.
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