New Leaf: Joe Colborne
by Chemmy on Feb 18, 2011 1:42 PM EST
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Joe Colborne is 6'5" Canadian center. He played two years at Denver in the WCHA with Tyler Bozak and Tyler Ruegsegger.
He's had a tough year in the AHL so far but let's look at his other numbers:
| Age | Season | Team | League | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM |
| 17 | 08-09 | Denver | NCAA | 40 | 10 | 21 | 31 | 24 |
| 18 | 09-10 | Denver | NCAA | 39 | 22 | 19 | 41 | 30 |
| 19 | 09-10 | Providence | AHL | 6 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
| 20 | 10-11 | Providence | AHL | 55 | 12 | 14 | 26 | 35 |
via Hockey's Future:
Has the size that every team dreams of but is still learning how to use it to his full advantage. The growth spurt is still relatively recent and so Colborne is still making the adjustment mentally that he can do much more than he believes he can from a physical perspective.
Just like Jake Gardiner our newest acquisition sat 2nd on Boston's prospect depth behind only a player that stepped into an NHL role immediately this season.
From that link Colborne is a playmaker looking to dish the puck. If he lives up to his potential he'll make the centerpiece of a great line with Nazem Kadri and Phil Kessel.
In the short term Colborne has to work on his game with the Marlies. No doubt Dallas Eakins is excited to put him between Nasty Naz and Fabian Brunnstrom to start wrecking opponents as the Marlies make a push for the playoffs. In the future we should look to Colborne to make the jump to a sheltered scoring line with Nazem Kadri before blossoming into what we hope he can be.
Like Nazem Kadri we need to be patient with Colborne. He's a great prospect but will need time to develop. If the Leafs can buy him the time he needs this could be a trade we look back on fondly.
Update:
His draft video courtesy NHL.com
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Just as a note, the stat chart should say “Providence” – “AHL” rather than “Providence” – “NCAA”
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FLYERBOB is going to hate this trade.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Love FLYERBOB
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
i hear he loves harveys and tim hortons
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
To FLYERBOB!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
After seeing what Versteeg garnered vs. what Kessel cost, and then watching Burke’s moves the last couple of days…there’s little doubt in my mind this dude is one of the best in the game.
Getting older only makes it harder to remember: We are our only saviors.
I keep reading that “this draft year is weak” etc.
I was at the CHL top prospects game. I humbly disagree. There’s a lot of young talent out there.
I have a theory we will never see another “weak” year, just average years. But that’s another story.
Getting older only makes it harder to remember: We are our only saviors.
You…you do know what “average” means, right?
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Well, show me the “weakest” draft of the past 8 years…it’s still pretty solid. It’s come a long way from the 90’s.
Getting older only makes it harder to remember: We are our only saviors.
Then show me an “average” draft. It’s gotten better, too.
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All I’m trying to say is that scouting has become more standardized, as has the teaching of hockey across the world. NHL teams are also spending much more to get it right, and it seems they are getting it right a lot more often. I have a much greater faith in a first round pick than I would have had 15-20 years ago.
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The term “weak draft” doesn’t mean less talented players. It means those kids will take longer to reach the NHL (need more development).
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Exactly, also less “sure things” in so far as there are any.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
weak
It is a weak draft but that doesn’t mean one can’t draft the best guys there; hockey sense, skill, and intensity, draft forwards like that!
I hope in 2013 we have 2 1st rounders, one in the top 5. THAT will be a strong draft, IMO.
How on EARTH are you predicting a draft 2 years away?
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Kaberle-Kessel Konnection
Has anybody pointed out that if we end up receiving the conditional pick, the Bruins’ payment for Kaberle essentially matches what we paid to them for Kessel? Two firsts and a second.
P.S.: Yes, I posted this in the other thread, but if this is the “trade talk” thread and the other is the “Kaberle appreciation” thread, I thought I’d also put it here, too. Sorry for the duplication!
almost except for where those picks end up we got the 16th overall from the 2009 class i believe, a 24-30 pick in 2011 and a second in the 45-60 range. But yes we did make up a little bit of the prospects we lost in the kessel deal, maybe this was the plan for burkie from the day he pulled the trigger on the kessel deal
by pho king awesome on Feb 18, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
uhhh… ya ok, i’ll pretend that’s true.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Feb 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I am excited...
At the prospect of a line with Kadri/Colborne/Kessel 2 or 3 years down the line.
I’d imagine trading a long serving Leafs like Kabby requires one.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 18, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
So Colborne looks to be a pretty solid prospect pushed way down he depth chart on Providence and still managing a near .5 ppg pace not bad for a 20 year old rookie getting third line minutes. I cant find ice time stats for the A anywhere someone want to figure out his points per 60, then we can (optimistically) see what his point pace would be like with the Marlies getting 1st or 2nd line ice time
by pho king awesome on Feb 18, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions
I don’t think they pull TOI for AHL. The best test of his ability will be as a the big dog on the Marlies. Kadri-Colborne-Burnnstrom for the rest of the season should be a good indication of what’s going on.
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oh yeah i’m pretty excited for that marlies play tonight if im not mistaken i’m guessing that colborne will be playing i might make my way down th richoe tonight..
by pho king awesome on Feb 18, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
defense pairings??
i still want to win and make the playoffs this year.
what will the pairings look like now?
schenn-gunner
phanuef-aulie
komi-lebda???? yikes
We’ll probably call up a Marlie defenseman.
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re-entry waivers, so probably not.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
No. Re-entry waivers.
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I wonder if Finger gets another shot after the trade deadline?
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That would make sense.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Another shot…at re-entry waivers?
He’s automatically brought up in the off-season, so I’d like to pencil him in as a 5th defenseman, but I’d rather the waiver-exempt kids get a shot while we play around in the post-deadline weeks.
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Oh reaaaallly?
I did not know that.
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Yeah, I’ll have to double check the wording but there are way less restrictions on roster size and players going back and forth once the trade deadline passes.
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IIRC, you are only allowed 4 call-ups (not including emergency recalls) and I don’t think you can send the player back down.
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that’s waht I remember from doing the Waivers 101 fanpost
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if a player on re-entry waivers is claimed after the trading deadline (which is 3 PM EST 40 days before the end of the season), the claiming team cannot play him until the following season.
Makes the risk of someone getting plucked pretty slim.
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So they are in the A for the remainder? Do they still count against the cap?
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Doubt it
Risk paying half his salary for the next two years? Or can that not happen because of the deadline?
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According to mf37, no waivers post-deadline.
Didn’t know that, interesting tidbit to keep in mind.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
if someone were to say in september “you’d be yearning to get finger back on the Leafs roster in february” would you have believed it?
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Here's the take on post-trade deadline waivers
According to the Dallas Morning News:
The process involving re-entry waivers changes after the trade deadline, as a team can claim a player for half price and place him on their NHL roster, but they cannot play him in the regular season or in playoff games for the remainder of the season. That allows teams to make call-ups like this without much risk of losing a player.
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So he can still be claimed on re-entry if we brought him up, but the team wouldn’t be able to use him until next year. I think it’s still significant risk, since I think we “agreed” that he would be good value at half the cap hit.
The fact that the other team would need to pay half of his remaining salary for this year without being able to play him may be enough of a dealbreaker. I still wouldn’t risk it though.
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Did you just use significant risk and Jeff Finger in the same sentence?
I doubt (m)any teams are so desperate for a d-man that they’ll take the salary hit to not play him until next September.
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Pretty much, he’s a third pairing guy anyway.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it would be essentially paying around 1/8 (1/2 * 1/4 of the season remaining?) of his salary this year to be able to have him next year at 1/2 of his salary.
It doesn’t seem completely ridiculous that someone would be willing to take him at 5/8 of his salary. I think we’ve discussed this before and the general consensus is that Finger at half his salary would be good value. If only one other GM thinks he’s worth it, we’re stuck paying half his salary for nothing next year.
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If he were a remarkably amazing value at $1.75m or if every UFA defenseman tore their ACLs simultaneously on July 1, I could see someone taking Finger.
But he isn’t, they won’t, and I doubt any GM would be a big enough asshole to do that when they could just sign someone random to play 15 minutes a night.
The significant risk
Is having to pay 1.75 mil next year for nothing
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How much money is left on their HALF of his contract? They have ot pay an extra 1/4 or so. So basically 2.1 for Finger for a year. Thats too reasonable to be stuck with 1.75 next year. Not interested.
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Right, but there’s the entire UFA period for someone to obtain such a player as well.
Minimal risk.
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I just really don’t like the idea of paying 1.75 mil to nothing. The chance might be low, but the penalty is high
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I haven’t sat here and looked at the cap hits for next year, but I can’t imagine the Leafs are going to be dancing along the cap line.
If I were a betting man, I’d set the claim line at 5%. There’s no one that’s paper thin on defense for next year that they’d need to claim him right now and waste a roster spot.
Teams that want cheap D-Men will be able to find cheaper in the UFA market, and he’s not a prospect by any stretch of the imagination.
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after all the resignings (Schenn, Mac, Bozak, Gunnar, Reimer) the Leafs are looking at at least 14 mill in space
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
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Doesn’t think that Burke will reuse every cent?
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2 millish for a back up,
and either he brings in a big money PMD or forward
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Tons of assets, in picks, prospects, and cap space. I’m not sold that he’s taking a “let’s see if Colborne develops into a #1C!” route. He’s probably going to make a run at someone in the offseason.
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Me?
He didn’t use it all this year. I don’t think he feels like he has to, he is getting decent leverage out of it this deadline.
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Yeah, I was taking a cursory look and came up with just about the same number, with 17 players signed.
Add Kadri and it’s still over 12 mil free with 18 signed.
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If we have that much cap space, we need to trade it for (bad salaries + benefits) while we’re not yet expecting to be competitive.
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as long as said players are at least serviceable and are not liabilities (see Lupul) I don’t mind that
no crazy long term contracts like Campbell or vinny though
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nooooo, nothing long term. Only stuff that expires before our window in which we contend. Unless we plan to bury it, in which case I don’t care how long term (as long as we have SPC room).
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My calculations
The following forwards (12):
Kessel, Phil "
Lupul, Joffrey "
Bozak, Tyler "
Armstrong, Colby "
Grabovski, M. "
Kulemin, Nikolai "
MacArthur, Clarke "
Kadri, Nazem
Orr, Colton "
Hanson, Christian "
Brent, Tim "
Brown, Mike "
The 6 D men:
Phaneuf
Komi
Schenn
Gunnar
Lebda
Aulie
1 G
Reimer
We have ~49 800 000 spent. Assume Cap barely moves up to 60 000 000. That leaves 10 mil for 1 G, 1 D, 1-2 F
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I think we lose on the Richards sweepstakes
My guess Erhoff at 4.25 for 4 years. Theodore 2 mil/year for 2 years. Flash 3 mil one year (post injury)
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The way I see it
Unless he proves himself in the next 2 months I don’t see him making hte LEafs. I don’t think Burke would role Reimer/Gus. Just not enough experience there
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Nope, agree there. We’re adding a goalie for sure.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Burke will definitely sign a vet to play backup
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Its weird
As an ex-hab and after his poor-mediocre stint in Washington, but I think Theodore is a good call. He is used to fighting it out with young kids (or htis year with Backstrom) and can sitll put up solid numbers. And he should be reasonably priced (my guess of 4 mil/2 years)
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Theodore would be a good option, also hedberg, i think he’s a UFA
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I think Theodore would be decent. He’d a .909 SV% goaltender over a long career, I’d be pretty fucking happy with that if Reimer falters next year (which is likely, because he’s playing obscenely well right now).
Fair point… I’m not entirely sure of that, but I can go along with it for the math.
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need to sink or swim.
I don’t really like either of them, but I’m holding out faint hope that they’ll answer the bell and at least be NHL defensemen now that the 50 minutes a night that Beauchemin and Kaberle were getting is gone.
You need 120 minutes of defensive ice time per game. If you throw out Schenn and Dion as your 25-30 minute munchers (an iffy prospect to begin with) then the rest of these dmen we like to think added up to a “logjam” need to take the ball and run with it. 15-20 good minutes a night each, really.
I think it’s fair to say that our alleged defensive depth has taken a real step back.
You can bury/scratch Lebda. We cant trade Komi and i dont see them burying another 4.5M of salary on the marlies, only to bring in someone else.
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If komisarek plays himself out of the NHL, I’ve got to think Jeff Finger is first in line to get a shot next season.
With Komi gone, the Leafs wouldn’t have any cap space concerns about bringing Finger back up (and would actually come out $1M ahead).
Finger’s a capable third-pairing defenceman, who could easily replace Komisarek’s 10 minutes a night with no issue. You haven’t heard a peep out of him despite having a real difficult year being sent down; I’ve got to think Burke will reward that loyalty with this opportunity if he can.
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there’s no way they’re burying both, you’ve got that right. I never really minded Finger on the ice. J overpaid. Komi has been worse on the ice AND $1M more.
I’m really really crossing my fingers that moving Beauch and Kabby is enough to jolt Komisarek into anything close to what we thought we were getting.
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Phaneuf and Aulie can play 25 minutes.
Schenn will likely be paired with Gunnarsson and will also play close to that.
Let’s say those two pairing can eat up 90-100 minutes.
That leaves 20-30 minutes for Komisarek and Lebda. That actually seems reasonable, 10-15 minutes per game each.
I’d actually like to see Finger back in the Leafs lineup next year, with Komisarek buried. Finger can play more minutes than Komisarek, and Lebda and a prospect (Gysbers, Holzer, Mikus) can rotate in and out of the 6th/7th spot.
Of course, Burke might sign a UFA defenseman also.
Maybe he’ll pull a Kessel with Shea Weber.
Careful saying a guy with 16 NHL GP can play 25-30 minutes a night. He’s young and just because he has done it a few times doesn’t mean he can do it regularly.
Our blue line is EXTREMELY green
Aulie (19 games)-Phaneuf
Gunnar (87 games)-Schenn (21 years old)
Lebda-Komi
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Aulie=23 minutes/night
Phaneuf-27 minutes
Schenn-25 minutes
Gunnar-20 minutes
Komi 12
Lebda-13
And thats pushing it on Phaneuf and Aulie
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To put this in perspective
Current leader in the league is Boyle with 26:49
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
And for a rookie?
Cam fowler with 22:49. Thats a shitload for Phaneuf and Aulie to take.
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To be fair, Aulie is older than Fowler.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
For sure. And he has more AHL time. But Fowler will also be the better player…
Its still a shitload to ask out of him
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Can’t believe Fowler slipped that far. Oh man some teams whiffed on that one.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
There are two solutions, I see, really.
1. Bring back Finger, demote Komisarek
2. Sign UFA, demote Komisarek
And some crazier ones…
3. Offer sheet Yandle
4. Offer sheet Weber
5. Make Komisarek stop sucking
how about we just use Komi-Finger as our bottom pairing?
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think thats likely
Komi is not being waived any time soon. They still have him wearing the A remember…
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, and those two playing 8-10 mins at evens a night with some PK time is fine
we still don’t have much on the PP front though
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THIS
Its why I keep saying we will be signing an OFD
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My memory of 2009-2010 is hazy, but I feel like Jeff Finger is actually a decent player on the power play.
If we sign an offensive defenseman, I’d rather it be an all-around player, or at least someone capable of playing 25 minutes like Kaberle was—not someone who’s a powerplay specialist and a total liability at evens.
Jeff Finger, not terrible, just expensive.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
He's played basically a year now
6 goals and 24 points. If that improves some we are looking at 8 or 9 goals (AWESOME) and 30 points (fine, but not enough). We need a PMD
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this is a thin, young, and green defense.
But Aulie looks good so far, and at this point, I think you have to project him to play close to 23 minutes—barring a free agent signing.
I would also advocate for a return of Jeff Finger, who played 20 minutes per game his first season here.
Next year?
Sure. I am talking about right now.
Next year:
Aulie-Phaneuf
UFA-Schenn
Gunnar-Komi
I am not saying I want this just that I see it likely. If we can get Wisniewski for a 4 mil, I can see it happening. Not happy, but I know Burke…
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We should just offer sheet Yandle, right?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions
Burke won’t do it. He’ll trade, but he won’t offer sheet.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 18, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He'll offer sheet
He will just give prior notice that it is coming, and try to reach a deal before he has to resort to that.
Don't you need your own picks to offer sheet?
And seeing as how we don’t have our own first round pick… we really can’t.
This has been pointed out many times. Offer sheets are post draft, and seeing as we have our picks for the 2012, 2013 etc.. drafts, we can offer sheet.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Can someone front page a fan shot about this. Not that we’re going to offer sheet anyone, just that we can.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’d offer sheet Shea Weber first…
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Even better
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Apparently
They think Fisher will make it easier. Ignoring the money he has brought in, its the “prove to insert star player who is upcoming FA on small market team we care about winning by spending some money”
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they also must be banking on his wife whispering in his ear “I did the duitful wife thing for you, now it’s your turn for my life and comfort — sign here at any cost”
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Are you talking about Weber or Fisher’s wife? Fisher is signed for another 2 years
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Funny you mention offer sheets….you know how the Devils are going to avoid Parise being offer-sheeted? They’re going to file for team-initiated arbitration.
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That prevents offer-sheets? What the hell?
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But thats insane if it goes to Arbitration. That means a 1-2 year deal…
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To make room. Even if it means buying out players. They CANNOT let him go
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unless they plan on tanking and wasting Kovalchucks best years pretty much
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
agreed but
to go to arbitration would take “control out of teams hands” plus they only gain 6 mil in expiring contract and have 5 spots to fill, and 7 rfa’s looks real tight to me.
28 mil tied up to 5 players without pairse
crazy bad situation to be in
Doesn’t mean they have to go to arbitration. They have months to work on a deal
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exactly, it just stops anyone from being able to offersheet him. They have time before the actual hearing to work out a deal with him.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 18, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Its risky though. Because they could go to arbitration this way and then lose him in 1-2 years
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true,but it’s also risky to have to fight off an offer sheet or forced to pay more due to the threat.
by Nigel Cadbury on Feb 18, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
If they need to completely tank, they can buy Kovalchuk out too. It makes me giggle just to say it, he’d be on the books until the 2038-2039 season.
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Change John Mitchell to defence. Maybe he’ll turn out as an all-star.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
reading his scouting report on hockeyfutures
he sounds like a poor man’s Thornton or Jason Allison (when he was good) A big bodied, play making centre who holds onto the puck along the boards
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Feb 18, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions
I just meant
his style of play, what he literally does while on the ice. Not what his potential is.
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Feb 18, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Playmaking C + sniper RW + Dirtiest hands in the NHL LW = The KCK line.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Colborne
Should start spelling his name iwth a K
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by BCapp on Feb 18, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
K-C-Kasem line.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Feb 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
better than K C Jones
(ninja turtle Goalie? anyone? right?
forget it.
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by Maniel Darois on Feb 18, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like his ceiling is closer to Allison, but an Allison with above-average skating for a big guy. I’d be totally OK with that.
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Allison got mocked a lot, but his on ice vision and pass abilities were superb
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He had the quietest nearly PPG season every for us.
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Devil’s advocate on Colborne – good stats in weak college conference, terrible numbers in the A, questions about intensity level… does he have what it takes to be a good top-2 centre?
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He did get pushed down the depth chart a bit and got overshadowed by the following year’s 1st rounder in Caron. Who would he be behind on the Marlies?
He’ll a prospect in the truest sense, wait and see.
Should he be getting overshadowed by guys who got drafted after him? That’s what I’m saying. I love the trade from our point of view, I’m just trying to get a handle on Colbrone. I think he’ll be a great test for Eakins and the rest of the development team.
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Yeah, sounds like he’ll need another full year in the A next year. Apparently his growth spurt came fairly late?
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
It did.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
People say
Its because he is raw. He is new to his size. We’ll see
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He might get lost for a little while as the season winds down. Burke signed a bunch of guys to 2 way deals in the summer for the Marlies. Colborne should still be a Marlie for most of next season, and the Leafs likely won’t bring back the entire group. I would expect guys like Zigomanis, Mitchell, etc to be let go this summer.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec city
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 18, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
So the Leafs are just swimming in cap space now.
I’d bet that the Leafs try and facilitate a couple of cap space deals in order to pick up some more draft picks. Because I don’t know what’s left on the Leafs to ship out, unless we send the likes of Sjostrom out for a middling pick.
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I have a weird feeling
Gunnar may be out the door.
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I don’t, unless there is a known D commodity coming back. too many holes and Gunnar is just starting to turn this season around
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say I want him to go. Just that I have a weird feeling. I want him to stay. Big fan of his. NEver got down on him at the beginning of the year (I saw the sophomore slump coming)
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I know, I just don’t see it, frankly I don’t think Burke touches the current D
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn-Gunnar
Phaneuf-Aulie
Finger-Komi
Lebda
Holzer, Gysbers, Blacker, Mikus, Gardiner all in the pipeline.
If that lineup sends us to the lottery next year, fine. We have our 2012 #1. But I don’t think it will.
Done. No need to overpay for another UFA. I pray he does nothing beyond a 1 yr deal for any UFA D.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha we’re signing a PMD July 1 and you know it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Forget the lottery. IF we can bring in a Goalie I think we can be a good team next year.
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Vokoun!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not for next year, which is what I think that projected lineup is.
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Correct.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m actually worried about Burke signing someone like Jovo-Cop.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like he’d be too old.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
oh dear god no.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
The Leafs are going to sign a UFA defenseman. There isn’t a doubt in my mind.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
more and more I think Burke goes after erhoff
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
did you see him last night? remember how Leaf fans used to rip on Kaberle for his defensive game?
Erhoff would get eaten alive
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
he’s been my most consistent Dman in terms of putting up points. and he’d be a mentor to Holzer and Mueller.
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it wouldn’t be the end of the world if the Leafs signed Erhoff, but I just think it would take an over payment on the contract to pry him away from a contender and that is potentially bad news if he falters
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Berlin Wall.
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The Third Line Reich.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
They’ll make the Habs forwards look like the Maginot Line.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s okay.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
hey i’m worth more than that!
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by Future_considerations on Feb 18, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
BOOM
@mirtle
James Mirtle
Trade is now official. Colborne will report directly to Marlies.
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Tons of traffic tonight…
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
jonas640 Jonas Siegel
Brian Burke press conference will take place at 4:30pm.
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Just happy
it was “The Steamengine” not Spooner, the size really sets them apart and I’m betting that comming out from the depths to a positionally shallow orginazation will light a fire in him
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press release up on leafs site
http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553272
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On Colborne.
I work around the corner from the Dunkin Donuts Center (home of the Providence Bruins) so I see Colborne play on a fairly regular basis.
It hasn’t been his best year, and there has been frustration at times, but I think this is a good time for him to be moved. A new atmosphere, a new team, and another storied franchise (it’s not like he got sent to Atlanta like Wheeler and Stuart).
As you guys weren’t likely to re-sign Kabs, a young potential starter and a 1st rounder. Not too bad.
thanks, Enjoy your awesome PMD.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
your PP will go through the roof, him feeding pucks to Chara will be ridiculous
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your PP will go through the roof, him feeding pucks to Chara will beridiculousRedonkulus
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by Future_considerations on Feb 18, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. The Bruins just got scary good.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Just like he was for Phaneuf!
oh wait…
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by Matt_Roberts on Feb 18, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
indeed, it’s not the set up man its the trigger
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Make sure to give him plenty of water.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
but DON’T feed him after midnight
by Johnny Bower's Pokecheck on Feb 18, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Out of interest, roughly how much ice time would you say he was getting, and who were his linemates?
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There is a lot more alternating of lines down in Providence. They also aren’t the best team the Atlantic this year (5 pts from last), so they’ve been letting a lot of the kids get ice time. Colborne has seen the minutes reduced, but he is still one of the bigger names, so he was still getting some ice time. I’d average 10 minutes as of late?
I’ve seen him centering a line with Lane MacDermid more often than not now. (Mac is 4-7-11)
Seen him skate with Caron earlier in the year too.
As I said, former first rounder, then had him up with the other high prospects at the beginning.
I think a move for him is going to be good. See you, Col.
Thanks for the info.
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about 10-12 minutes a game almost .5 ppg not too shabby!
by pho king awesome on Feb 18, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
15 is retired =(
I tweeted: What, no dramatic ceremony where Milt Schmidt gives his jersey to Tomas Kaberle? Weak.
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15 was worn by Milt Schmidt, the only man to play for, captain, coach, and general manage the Bruins. Also the GM the last time they won the cup. It’s retired for a reason.
That said, I’ve been wondering since it started looking real what he’d wear.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
15 was worn by Tomas Kaberle. He’s Tomas Kaberle. It should be unretired for a reason.
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Leaf’d.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle > Milt Schmidt
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by Future_considerations on Feb 18, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol
HennyTweets Paul Hendrick
3 deals in last 9 days get leafs 5 players/picks all in the 2st round.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
augmentative analysis fail
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by Future_considerations on Feb 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Here is an interview I did with Colborne last year: http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2010/2/8/1301100/interview-with-bruins-2008-1st
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Feb 18, 2011 3:16 PM EST reply actions
I have been to Boston a number of times and love the city. There is a ton of history and so many things to do. One of my favorite aspects of the city is how passionate the fans are for their sports.
He’s going to love T.O. then…
Toronto: a pretty good city
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
the beer isn’t as good, but it has far far less America
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I like America, and yes our beer is not good.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Canada is betterer
and I wouldn’t say our beer is no good (if you get the right stuff) it is just in way over its head when compared to Boston
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I should go to Boston.
Want to name any names and make comparisons to Mill St, best beer in Toronto?
you’re gonna have to ask Corny or Chemmy for that, I’ve only had a few, Dogfish head IPA is like tankhouse but better
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I got it on draft at the coliseum. Best
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Some of the beer is good but the beer here is better on average
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Plus you don’t have to buy it at some draconian communist store with terrible selection.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
at least our shitty beer is better than your shitty beer!
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate both Blue and Canadian.
Don’t mind Carling as far as shitty beer goes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
my buddies have the worst taste in beer, all they ever drink is (canadian brewed!) bud lite
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
my buddies love bud. I’m the only one that drinks other brands (they know I’m at a party if there are Keith’s bottles or Steamwhistle kicking around)
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Drank so much Keith’s in undergrad.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
it’s all I drank in college, havn’t touched the stuff since
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn’t stand it until I went out to Nova Scotia last summer. Now I’m hooked.
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Alexander Keith in Nova Scotia is a good beer.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Feb 18, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I once pretended to like Keiths to date a girl from Halifax. Keith’s sucks and so does she, bad mistake.
by schennsational on Feb 19, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Me neither actually. Used to drink it by the pitcher at the Runt Club.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
It’s hard to find much else when you go out to most places, especially in small towns.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
they live in London or Toronto, they could at least pick up some mill street
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well then there’s no excuse. Could go for a Tankhouse right about now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
me too
I just finished my last one
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
tankhouse brewery is less then 5 minutes from my office. I’m currently sitting at my desk drinking one.
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Why you gotta be like that?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I am at home watching top gear drinking a tank house eating pizza and not wearing pants
your move
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 18, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’m working, but my girlfriend just put a lasagna in the oven so there’s that.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
now, if you excuse me, I’m going to go join our company rooftop patio party, in the middle of february.
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Enjoy.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t consider Blue and Canadian as “shitty beer” because it’s expensive. But yes, it is shit.
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anyone else think Atlanta is going to fall out of the playoff race pretty quick after that trade
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Yes and good.
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by happiergilmore on Feb 18, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not much action over on the Stanley Cup of Chowder. 40 comments between the two trade threads – I’m pretty sure Cornelius has more comments than that in this thread.
I figured the Bruin’s would have a good SB Site.
They do. For the celtics
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You’d think so
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Feb 18, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Marlies Meetup tomorrow?
Go check out Naz, Colborne, etc? Anyone in?
by smashmouthhockey on Feb 18, 2011 3:41 PM EST reply actions
Ah cool!
Got a link to a thread or comment? Can’t seem to find it among the thousands of posts.
by smashmouthhockey on Feb 18, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
z
What we should note is that Damo had a blog post up this morning that had the trade exactly right.
Will have to start paying more attention to him, so conflicted.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions
He and Burkie are tight these days.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 18, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
They really are, will have to read more of his stuff now.
Simmons is pretty much the new Cox now anyway.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 18, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I am hjappy about White
I want to see him on a contender
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wellwood and white
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