Lee Stempniak Proves Dave Tippett's A Bad Coach
by PPP on Feb 24, 2011 10:30 AM EST
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If Lee Stempniak (14 goals 14 games in Phx.) rolls out 25-30 goals this season it will be a futher indictment of Ron Wilson's coaching.
That tweet belied not only a lack of understanding of basic statistics but also the truth that the so-called 'national' NHL reporter is a beat far too difficult for the majority of folks holding down that spot. There's a reason that no serious hockey fan turns to the four letters for hockey coverage. There's a reason they've used SBN pieces, including one from here, that do no more than examine possible targets for trades or signings as ESPN Insider pieces. They are useless. Anyway, back in August, when Scott Burnside decided to take a shot at Ron Wilson (wouldn't it be great if he was upfront about any possible reason for writing it?) Chemmy had a little fun with him pointing out that basically no one in the NHL expected Stempniak to score 25-30 goals and that he had no idea what he was talking about. Also, that tweet has a typo.
I don't know why Stempniak came into my mind today but this time I'm glad to think about the former Dartmouth grad. The following table of his stats paints a pretty stark picture of just what a fluke last year's 18 game run was...if you still needed any proof:
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Season
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Team | GP | G | A | P | +/- | PIM | S | S% |
| 2005-2006 | Blues | 57 | 14 | 13 | 27 | -10 | 22 | 100 | 14.0 |
| 2006-2007 | Blues | 82 | 27 | 25 | 52 | -2 | 33 | 166 | 16.3 |
| 2007-2008 | Blues | 80 | 13 | 25 | 38 | 0 | 40 | 162 | 8.0 |
| 2008-2009 | Blues | 14 | 3 | 10 | 13 | -3 | 2 | 43 | 7.0 |
| 2008-2009 | Maple Leafs | 61 | 11 | 20 | 31 | -9 | 31 | 128 | 8.6 |
| 2009-2010 | Maple Leafs | 62 | 14 | 16 | 30 | -10 | 18 | 164 | 8.5 |
| 2009-2010 | Coyotes | 18 | 14 | 4 | 18 | 10 | 8 | 48 | 29.2 |
| 2010-2011 | Coyotes | 62 | 14 | 16 | 30 | 6 | 10 | 148 | 9.3 |
| NHL Totals | 436 | 110 | 129 | 239 | -18 | 164 | 961 | 11.4 |
Uhhh, let's ignore that when the Leafs traded for Stempniak he was clearly not a 30 goal man lying in wait. Just look at the last three chunks of fairly even sized games played:
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08-09: 61GP 11G
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09-10: 62GP 14G
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10-11: 62 GP 14G
Then there's the 14 goals in 18 games that 2010 Jack Adams Winner Dave Tippett managed to motivate out of Stempniak. He was able to make Lee Stempniak shoot 29.2% with less ice-time than he got in Toronto. How come he stopped doing that? The only conclusion is that it is an indictment of Dave Tippett's coaching.
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Lee Stempniak is so clutch he makes Derek Jeter look like an aging overpaid buffoon.
Wait hold on.
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Gotta love Scott Burnside and his stupidity.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 24, 2011 10:38 AM EST reply actions
option 6 – Lee stempniak is an asshole
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2011 10:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This was never in doubt.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 24, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Lee Stempniak is a asshole.
I went to college with his younger brother and he told me second-hand that Lee hated his time in Toronto. Said that he was ‘sick of Wilson always begin on his ass’. Whatever thats supposed to mean. Unless Wilson wasn’t whipping him (figuratively, well maybe not) constantly while he was on the Leafs he wouldn’t have been doing his job properly IMO.
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by bradboyes26 on Feb 24, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
option 6 – Fuck Lee stempniakis an asshole
Fixed.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Feb 24, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
hockey journalists at ESPN are dolts
but oh God I would wildly celebrate the NHL’s return to that network.
Copy paste into Twitter please:
RT @ESPN_Burnside If Stempniak (14 G 14 GP in Phx.) rolls out 25-30 goals this season it will be a futher indictment of Wilson’s coaching.
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Let’s hope the Yotes don’t trade him to the Thrashers and he ends up putting up 14 in 14 again.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 24, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Quit your homerism, Ron Wilson is the worstest coach ever!!!
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All you Leafs pom pom wavers can’t see that Ron Wilson stinks. Take off your fanboy glasses.
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What a dumb tweet that was though, a career 11.4% shooter starts pumping in 1 out of every 3 shots for a month and a half and suddenly Wilson is a dumb coach? Use common sense man
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It’s Scott Burnside, the only thing about hockey he knows is that Sidney Crosby= Good.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 24, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
That’s the entire point.
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His thought process was this
He had a 27 goal year
a rebound poor year
Hot start
Traded to leafs
sucks for two years
Plays great down the stretch.
Clearly he had the goal scoring potential and Wilson couldn’t coach it out of him… The problem with this thought process is about 1 minute of research (check his extraordinarily high shooting percentage) could have shown him the mistake. My guess is he didn’t do that research
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Leafs with more goals than Stempniak: MacArthur, Grabbo, Kessel, Kulemin, Versteeg
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 24, 2011 10:58 AM EST reply actions
He had as many goals as a Leaf as Stempniak has this season.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 24, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly, despite everything that has happen this season, I have to say Wilson has gone up in my respect for him as a coach. I really didn’t like him and expected with him at the helm the Leafs would continue to struggle in the basement despite the players. Now, they are back to teasing us with playoffs and definitely have taken a step forward – plus Schenn, Aulie and Gunnerson haven’t been ruined. There are pluses for him this year.
I’d comment futher, but that would make it seem like I know what I’m talking about and since I don’t work for ESPN…
Note that although this shows that his 14 goals in 62 games performance wasn’t a product of RW’s coaching, it doesn’t prove in anyway that RW is a good coach. Or a bad one.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Feb 24, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions
Exactly.
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I’m no RW fan but to suggest Desert Ninja’s performance last year had anything to do with Wilson vs. Tippett was one of the dumbest things to come out of an MSMer in a long time.
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by The '67 Sound on Feb 24, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Mandatory
Each post referencing Lee Stempniak has to include the following..
“Fuck Lee Stempniak”
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by Future_considerations on Feb 24, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions
I still think we got ripped off in that trade
I can’t believe no one wanted him for more than that. I really think its because the media shat on him for two years. He was on a 20 goal pace and played tough competition. I thought he was easily worth a 3rd.
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oh we definitely got the blunt end of that trade, mainly because steen developed so well
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm over it. I feel pretty relaxed about the Steen deal
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I feel like there is something missing from that photo….
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Feb 24, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
me too, i just cant put my finger on it….because there is no more room
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
well now we have the plot to the porn version of inception covered
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m now going to be waiting for the 3 minute Youtube video of panning calm.jpg pictures with the Inception theme.
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 24, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
The one on the right… it’s staring into my soul.
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And doing a neck roll at the same time. The neck roll really does it for me.
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I feel like you ignore that topic of every post just to keep writing that Wilson sucks.
Feel free to comment on the topic of the post: Scott Burnside is dumb.
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Bahahahahahaha! Classic, PPP
What a wonderfully concise way to sum up Burnside. Really glad you filed that one away.
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It was so random that it came back to me right as he was about to play game 62. I was like “What’s that asshole Stempniak up to?”
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