Marlies vs. Moose GDT
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:03 PM EST
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PrintBaby Buds vs. Baby Canucks in a different version of an All Canadian matchup today at the Ricoh in the first of back to back matchups. This is yet another chance for the Marlies to make a push for the Calder Cup playoffs as the Moose are currently 2 points ahead of them with 2 games in hand.
Look at this as an opportunity for the Marlies to continue what they did in delivering back to back victories over Manitoba in Winnipeg last week. Manitoba is really falling apart recently, and has only managed to win 2 games in an 8 game stretch against divisional opponents. Toronto is in the midst of a hot stretch, currently sitting at 6-3-0-1 in their last 10, and unbeaten in regulation in the last 3 games.
Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne will hopefully continue some excellent play up front, while Mike Zigomanis continues to provide veteran leadership. Gustavsson should be getting the start, so hopefully he continues to get back to what works well for him and salvages this season in Blue and White.
Keep up the good work Kids!
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3 PM start
Game is on Rogers TV in Toronto
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
no local radio
CJOB Radio in Manitoba is carrying it on the Web though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Whooooooo. THANKS!
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
stupid rogers newmarket and its desperate housewives
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions
Healthy Scratches
@chansler
Clayton Hansler
Today’s scratches: Rynnas, Finger, Irwin, Caputi, Mikus and Brunnstrom #Marlies
Is Mikus injured or is he really that far down the depth chart?
20 miles to Legoland!
Rynnas
isn’t a healthy scratch… nor is Caputi… or Finger?… Irwin, Mikus, and Brunnstrom are all healthy though I think.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Whoops
Should have been “Scratches” (due to injury or otherwise)
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Irwin, Finger, Rynnas, Caputi are all injured. Not sure about Mikus or Brunnstrom (who played on Weds)
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Mikus is healthy, but he has been bumped down the depth chart
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get why though
we haven’t added anyone, and Aulie has been promoted… having him sit doesn’t make sense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
if anything
there should be MORE ice time for him… freaking Engel has been playing over him… it makes no sense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
his numbers
don’t seem to indicate that… particularly for a 21 year old.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
ok then
I doubt brunnstrom is out unless he’s injured… he’s played well so far… I honestly don’t know about Mikus.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
the Marlies
are in a bit of a dog fight to make the playoffs… I’m not sure why he isn’t playing though… he was in the line up regularly on their road swing through the west last week and seemed to be playing decently.
It could just be a case of they’re winning and don’t want to change things much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
he's also
the youngest D man on the Marlies… he’s only 21… so it’s not that weird… if they haven’t demoted him to the ECHL though it might be a result of injury
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
let's go Marlies!
Certified Grabbo lover. GET WELL SOON, SID
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
"I'm glad we've got the best fans in the league." - Tomas Kaberle on Leaf fans
again.
would be nice to actually have seen it… radio is a sorry replacement for visuals.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
WOOO
im excited and i dont know what happened
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri apparently deked
around 3 guys and made a beauty shot… did you see the radio link above?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
my computer has major streaming issues
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
ah ok
well that blows for you.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Came down the right wing...
split two guys just inside the blueline, kicked the puck to himself and sniped it stick side.
Nastyu
Aulie Do Is Win Win Win No Matter What
@chansler
Clayton Hansler
Off the skate, onto the stick and into the back of the net. My player to watch, Nazem Kadri, opens the scoring. #Marlies
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
NICE
Nazem Kadri scores.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
1-0 Marlies
14th goal for Kadri… apparently danced through 3 defenders? wish I had seen it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I saw it. Manitoba took a bad change which gave him space in the neutral zone, then he decked around a couple, used his skate to control the puck, then made the goalie look silly. Gorgeous goal.
No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
by article1 on Feb 26, 2011 11:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Manitoba
have been playing like crap recently… we should be able to win this one.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think so
Lemme check.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
apparently not
he isn’t on the gamesheet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
they do have
Bill Sweatt though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
He was just called up to the Canucks.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Feb 26, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
makes sense
then that he isn’t with the team.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
no idea.
sure you could look into it somehow. twitter someone that would know or something.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
He’s no Andy Frost that’s for sure.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, tight race in the Marlies division
http://www.marlies.ca/team/Standings.asp
Marlies in 4th with 66 points, but there’s 3 teams above all tied with 68 points (different # of games played though)
20 miles to Legoland!
yeah
that was what I was alluding to a bit in the mention of the Moose having 68 points.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
and a hush goes over the crowd
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions
Manitoba
just got their 2nd shot of the game… wtg Moose!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
A hard hit by Kadri
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:25 PM EST reply actions
Kadri
drills Vopatti.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Apparently Leafs Mgmt
are all taking in the game today.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Not a huge surprise
When the Leafs are at home, it’s a nice little afternoon warmup before the real game.
I like that the Leafs pay such close attention to the baby Leafs when it’s a simple matter of a 10 minute drive.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think the thing of note
is that it’s apparently ALL of the Leafs MGMT team… not just Nonis or just Burke… it’s everyone (according to the Manitoba Radio guy).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
ALL of Leafs MGMT?
I have this vision in my mind that is hundreds of men with suitcases storming Ricoh.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think we mean
like Dave Poulin, Nonis, probably chief scouts, etc.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm loving
this Hodgman kid. Great play for a guy that just earned an AHL contract this year. I can’t see him not getting a 2-way next year.
20 miles to Legoland!
he played in the AHL
last year also.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
7 goals and 12 points
in 38 games last year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yup… but part of last year in the E as well.
His #s aren’t eye-popping but pretty good for some one i’d never heard of. Injured a number of games too.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
his 2nd last
year in Junior was pretty good… and he led Erie in scoring in his last 2 years in the OHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
How the heck
does this team have the most goals in the North Division?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
It's no 1 individual scorer that's for sure... scoring by Committee I guess.
Kadri and Hanson are the two leading goal-scorers, Zigomanis and Kadri the two leading point-scorers
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
the crazy thing
is Kadri would have a lot more points if he’d spent the full year in the AHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think Kadri needs 1 more point tonight to be a PPG player in the A.
If he finishes the year a this pace I’d say it’s been a successful season
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
And there it is!
35 points in 35 games.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
power play
for the Marlies.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Kadri is beginning to look sick.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
It was only a matter of time until he learned how to adapt his game to playing with men rather than playing with boys.
This year in the A has been good for him. Will likely be a different player that shows up to 2011 camp from the 2010 one.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes yes. Being here for a year is what was needed. I love it.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
then he’ll be ready… JUST LIKE JIRI TLUSTY!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t SCARE me.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
just adding a dose of
reality… lighting up the AHL doesn’t mean a lot or Cory Locke and Jason Krog would be superstars in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
don't get me wrong though
he’s played well… he just shouldn’t spend too long in the AHL, or that’s a sign of his development stalling.
I’m not seeing much to convince me he needs offensive polish at this level, so for that reason I don’t think his offense has much value in assessing his ability to play at a higher level.
Keep tabs on how his D looks, THAT is way more important. If he’s on the ice for a lot of goals against, then that’s worrying.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Believe me, I don’t overhype prospects ;) But I do understand what those hands could mean IF he figures out the NHL.
“Keep tabs on how his D looks, THAT is way more important. If he’s on the ice for a lot of goals against, then that’s worrying.” Agreed, very good point sir.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
his physicality
is a good sign. He needs to keep that going.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ok so you watch the Marlies on the regular basis? To my knowledge Kadri has always been a somewhat physical player but as far as this season goes, is this game the game he’s been at his physical peek or has he been playing like that throughout the year.
Burke being there and all.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri tries to throw his weight around, but it doesn’t work as well against guys bigger than him. In junior as a 19 year old against 17 year olds he could toss his size around…. doesn’t work as well in the A
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. That could have been noticed in the NHL level as well.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
He likes to hit
but he needs players to protect him because he’ll get killed if he does stuff like that in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Heh yeah, I could see Kadri not being a well-liked guy by other teams’ players. Remember throat-slash-gate?
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
other teams are going to hate kadri so very much, he has the armstrong effect on other teams
but far more natural skill
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Huh? Lighting it up in the AHL does mean a lot. The issue with guys like Krog and Locke is they have at least one major issue in their game. For Locke it’s his skating. Krog didn’t put up big offensive numbers in the AHL until late in his career.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
I'm just saying
he hasn’t shown anything in the NHL yet. Darren Haydar and David Ling also think you make a valid point, but it doesn’t really disprove the point about the AHL numbers not always translating to NHL success.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
he's played 35 games
that’s not even a year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
You know what I meant. This 2010-2011 season with the Marlies.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Burke is in the house
Kadri is showing off his full range of skills today.
Nasty goal, great hands, causing turnovers, laying big hits, showing off great vision on the assist to Voros.
Great period.
Aulie Do Is Win Win Win No Matter What
Manitoba
has 9 shots… Toronto has 4… 2 saves on 4 shots… .500 SV% for Manitoba’s goalie… not so great.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Holy shit
Huge gaff by the Moose d-man and Hanson almost converts. Forces the dman to take a delay-of-game instead.
Marlies back to the PP
20 miles to Legoland!
looks like Kyper got the Mcabe rumours right
Mccabe for Tim Kennedy and third
As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
yeah saw
that in the other thread…. doesn’t seem like a great return, and Kennedy doesn’t have much to add to Florida as far as I can tell.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Elliot Friedman
on the Manitoba Radio… interviewing about Trade Rumours.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Friedman thinks
Colorado and Florida will make more moves… Edmonton might, Ottawa may move Phillips… this is all things we’re aware of but yeah… interesting to hear it from him.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I heard a ridiculous rumour about Hemsky for B. Schenn… huge overpayment for Hemsky.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
not really, Hemsky is a very good hockey player and would light it up on Kopitars wing
Value wise it is a huge overpayment for Brayden Schenn
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree on Hemsky
Yes he’s good, but unless Kings really think Hemsky will put them over the top I don’t know why they’d dish a prospect like Schenn. They have plenty of other prospects to send instead, B. Schenn is tearing the junior world aflame right now and his value is sky high
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
as we've discussed
junior numbers don’t mean a lot in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Hemsky
is a proven performer in the NHL. He’s over 0.90 points per game for the past 4 years consecutively.
That’s pretty damn solid.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Would you make the trade from an LA perspective? I would not.
Junior numbers don’t mean a LOT but they don’t mean nothing either.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but Jiri Tlusty put up a PPG in a better league than schenn and netted a player who will top out as a good 3rd liner
Schenn is obviously better than Tlusty, but is he alone worth a near PPG player?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
put it this way
only 34 players have posted better than 0.90 ppg numbers over the past 4 years, and Hemsky ranks 24th on that list… right beside Patrick Kane, Zach Parise, Dany Heatley, and Marc Savard.
Do you think those guys are better than Brayden Schenn? I sure as hell do.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
in fact
if I’m LA… and I can get 27 year old Hemsky in exchange for 19 year old Schenn? I probably do that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
it's not like Hemsky
is on the verge of retirement or something… he’s got at least 6-7 years in front of him of decent production.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I can see I’m alone on this, but I think it’s a stupid overpayment. EDM would be stacked as shit in young prospects.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s dumb too. Hemsky has only once played at last 75 games in a season
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
in his past 4 years
he has played 74, 72, 22, and now 45 games.
He misses time, but his number of missed games last year makes it look worse than it is.
Like I said… he’s Gaborik light.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
and he's bounced back
from his shoulder problem that caused him to miss so much time last season pretty well… he’s posted 41 points in 45 games on the worst team in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
yup, if they think they can push for the cup in the next 3 years, that is a good move for them, but it is still high risk with his injuries
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
players he's produced better than over the past 4 years include
Derek Roy, Paul Stastny, Anze Kopitar, Rick Nash, Corey Perry, Mike Richards, Marian Hossa.
I again think ALL of those guys are worth more than just Brayden Schenn.. oh and don’t forget he’s playing on FREAKING EDMONTON.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t trade a prospect of Schenn’s caliber (plus other assets) for Hemsky, a player who hasn’t played a full season since 05-06.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Thank you, some backup!
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
not saying it is the best move in the world for LA, just that the value (in a vacuum) of Hemsky for Schenn is stacked for the kings
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I must have some type of irrational hate for Hemsky because despite all these arguments I’m not even close to agreeing.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
yep
irrational would qualify.
Would you make a trade for Gaborik? He’s pretty injury prone also.
The injury thing is a bit of a hard thing to take one way or another.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
based purely on
his hockey abilities… Hemsky is worth a lot more than Schenn.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
also
you guys keep mentioning Paul Stastny.
Over the past 4 years, Stastny has played 251 games. Hemsky has played 213. That’s out of a possible 328 games. Neither one of them has been particularly “healthy”… overall. Stastny’s problems were 3 and 4 years ago respectively though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and
Hemsky has a better ppg production rate than Stastny does over the past 4 years.
So I wouldn’t say Hemsky is worth a lot less than Stastny.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I would
fuck hemsky
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
lol
this is amazingly irrational.
Sorry… but he produces MORE points, and they’re both injury prone.
He’s the 24th most productive player in the NHL in the past 4 seasons… how can you say he’s that shitty?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
also
people keep saying stastny is a ppg player… he’s only had one season of ppg production.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
2, and one was actually above ppg.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
nope
just one… and it was the only one he was over ppg.
In order .95, 1.08, .80, .98, .81 (the last one is this year).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well, ok 2 points below PPG is still around PPG.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
he's not
a ppg player. He’s a 0.81 ppg player right now.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
compare that
to Brad Richards… who has posted 1.14, 1.13, and 1.11 seasons in his career, with the first two being his most recent two years.
Also posted .96, and .95 seasons.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Richards
is a ppg player… currently, and 3 times in the past.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Richards
Is old. And doesn’t fit the bill of building a “dynasty.” Maybe he’s got two years left at that pace, maybe less.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Also, we haven’t touched the development curve, Stastny’s top days are only ahead of him. He could still be a PPG player later in his career.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
what is this based on?
his numbers haven’t improved at all in 5 years. He’s already playing 20 minutes a night.
How is he going to improve drastically?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel. Well 0.20 for the rest of his career is not that drastically. Not that he’ll have a PPG average at the end of his NHL career. That would be a bit much.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Stastny has
averaged between 0.24 and 0.35 goals per game, and 0.51 and 0.73 assists per game for 5 years in a row.
His highest goal scoring numbers were in his first two years so he’s scoring LESS goals not more. His highest assist totals were in his 2nd and 4th years, and haven’t improved or gone down significantly.
He played 18 minutes a night as a rookie, and then 21 minutes a night for the next 3 seasons. Now he’s down to 19:45 a night.
He ISN’T going to suddenly improve.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
His wingers
have been predominantly Chris Stewart, David Jones, and TJ Galiardi this year. Last year it was Stewart and Wolski, or Galiardi or Hejduk. The year before that it was Hejduk and Ryan Smyth. Year before that it was Hejduk and Smyth.
Do you seriously see Kessel and Lupul producing significantly better than Hejduk and Smyth in their primes?
I certainly don’t think they do significantly better.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, who were Richards’ wingers in Tampa? And players he played with on the PP?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
well
most recently in Dallas, Neal and Eriksson… in TB Lecavalier, St. Louis, and Malone.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, and he’s doing better in Dallas.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
in 2007-08
Hejduk and Smyth were producing on a 32 and 15 goal pace.
In 2008-09 Hejduk was on a 27 goal and Smyth was on a 27 goal pace.
Do we expect Kessel and Lupul to significantly out produce 54 goals a season? Also don’t forget that he didn’t JUST play with Hejduk and Smyth…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think with a C like Stastny, Kessel can hit 40. It too early to tell for Lupul.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not too early to tell for Lupul. Lupul is highly unlikely to hit 30 goals in a season, even with an elite winger.
BUT, no one cares about Lupul. I mean, Lupul cares about Lupul, but Lupul isn’t likely to be our long-term solution on the LW. Right now, Kadri and Kulemin are the options, unless we look to bring someone in.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Of course, but what I meant is if Kessel hits 40, then Lupul needs to hit 20 to already have 60 on the year as Stastny’s wingers.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
From 2006-2009 Richards had an around 0.85 PPG average. And he was older than Stastny then. And besides 2005-06 he was basically Stastny stats wise. Ok a bit more, but not drastically. So if he can improve, so can Stastny, right?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
right
this is all anecdotal… I just don’t think Stastny is going to change drastically.
You do… that’s fine.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I like discussions like this one :) Thanks man. This is what discussing hockey is all about, never had that before.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think we need him to change that drastically. I have no problem with acquiring a .94 ppg player and hoping that he stays around that level, or improves only slightly.
Stastny in a bad (but healthy) season, is still likely to be the most elite center acquirable in the next few years – assuming he’s even acquirable now.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
“Stastny in a bad (but healthy) season, is still likely to be the most elite center acquirable in the next few years – assuming he’s even acquirable now.”
This is a wonderful point.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately
Brad Richards’ free agency this off-season would make it an untrue point.
Richards puts up more points, and he’s MORE available…
He’s just “old”.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
If he indeed makes free agency then ok, but then he isn’t a commodity that need to be acquired via trade so we get a top line C without giving anything away… That is another thing entirely.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
giving anything away
other than a lot of cap space.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
So? I mean if you want a legitimate, talented 1st line C you pay a legitimate, talented first line C.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying
we should get him… I’m just saying he’s a ppg centre. Stastny isn’t.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Richards is 31 in May. Anyone advocating picking him up over Stastny needs to have their head examined.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Richards for a late first or Stastny for a late first, kadri and gunnarsson
I take richards
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I opt for tampering.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Do you think he’d cost a late 1st? I think Dallas would be furious if that’s all they get.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
boom
Brad Richards first 5 seasons in NHL – .90 PPG
Paul Stastny first 5 NHL seasons – .94 PPG
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Richards led the Lightning
in scoring with 62 points as a 20 year old.
Stastny’s rookie season was on a team that already had Joe Sakic, Andrew Brunette, Milan Hejduk, Wojtek Wolski, Tyler Arnason, and Marek Svatos up front, and John-Michael Liles, Jordan Leopold, Brett Clark, and Ken Klee on the Defensive end with Jose Theodore and Peter Budaj in net.
The offensive skill on that team AND the experience was far higher than the Lightning in Richards’ rookie season… or his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Sakic
produced 100 points that year… Richards LED the Lightning in points with 62.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Lecavalier
had 52… St. Louis had 40 points.
Lecavalier was in his 3rd year, St. Louis was in his first with the Lightning.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Neither Lecavalier
nor St. Louis would score over 30 goals for another 2 seasons.
Richards has always been predominantly a set up guy… if the top scorers he was going to play with weren’t in their prime’s yet it’s kinda hard to compare him and Stastny in their early careers.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Tyler Arnason? I don’t think that adds much to your point :D
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
when he's your
6th best forward and he had posted seasons of 55, 45, 49 points consecutively, that’s pretty significant.
Particularly when we’re talking about a comparison to Richards where St. Louis and Lecavalier had 40 and 52 points in Richards’ rookie year respectively.
Think about that… Arnason was BETTER as the 6th forward on Colorado, than two of the best 4 forwards on TB when Richards started (the other was Modin).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
considering that fact
and the fact that Colorado is STILL one of the highest scoring teams in the NHL… and it makes you think, maybe Stastny is amazing, but maybe he’s playing with a collection of offensively gifted players also.
Duchene, Stewart, Hejduk, Wolski, Jones, Galiardi
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
He didn’t play with Duchene and Stewart all that much.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Stewart he did
Stewart has been on his line more frequently than any other line mate for the past two years.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
True, but what I meant was a bigger part of his best seasons 2/3 were without those guys.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
His numbers
haven’t IMPROVED over time… which is why I don’t see them improving further in the future.
A large part of the increase in production comes with increased ice time, he isn’t going to play over 21 minutes on most teams in the NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ah yes
but Toronto isn’t just any team. I can see him getting more ice time here.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
you think he should get over 21 minutes a night at the expense of the likes of Grabovski?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
that's a quick way
to burn out a player.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
It all depends on the production… I have as much Grabo love as anyone but still, you can’t say one season alone merits comparisons to a guy like Stastny. So yes, your first line C gets more ice time.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure he gets more
but not a lot more than 21 minutes a night.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Not a lot more.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but with the Avalanche he posted 41,39 and 22 points consecutively on a more talented Avalanche team.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Umm
Arnason posted a 49 point season in his first full year in Colorado… 41 points was how much he put up in Chicago prior to his trade to Colorado.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
and he had 4 points
after that trade… which makes it a 45 point season.
So 45 and 49 points… then he tailed off to 31 and 22. Largely due to a decreasing role and bad work ethic.
My point stands though, 6th best forward and he’s posting 49 points.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, you are correct. Stat viewing fail.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. He’s not the caliber of Richards.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I get what you’re saying… but still. That’s what we don’t have… A C that can put up around 75 points in a season.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
really?
because Grabovski is probably capable of that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel
is on track for 37 goals and 64 points… playing with Tyler Bozak as his C… I don’t think giving him a top C would make a huge difference.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
i think a top flight center nets Kessel at the very least 10 more points if that center is adept at scoring goals
74 points has way better optics than 64, but really isnt a whole ton more over an 82 game schedual
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it would be good just to improve Kessel, we need to improve the C position on that line, Bozak played well the other night but throughout the season hasn’t been producing like a top 6
Bozak would be a fantastic 3rd line center
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. I really like that reasoning. Bozak has all the tools to be that good 3rd line center every team needs.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
And he likely will be. I’m really excited for bringing in an “elite” center not just because of the player, but because it will be a great example of “pushing talent down from the top.”
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
he's on track
for 35 goals and 63 points… but I think he could produce more if he had a full year with just Kulemin and MacArthur on his wings.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Small sample size. Yes, I do believe he is, but this guy did 70+ three times.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh and one other thing
the ONLY season where Stastny was over a ppg player, he only played 66 games.
That kinda skews things.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. But we don’t know which way.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
umm yes we do
it skews his seasonal ppg averages (which we’re discussing) upwards.
That’s why his TOTAL ppg average over the past 4 years is lower than Hemsky’s because that one year was an anomaly in comparison to the others which were all below a point per game, and generally, the more games he played the further below a point per game he ended up.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hm. Need to dwell on that but ok, so far it’s plausible.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Actually 3, sorry. 2006-07 a tiny bit below (4) PPG. 2007-08 way above PPG, 2009-10 tiny bit below (2) PPG.
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm
not 3… 1.
He isn’t a point per game player if he’s getting less points than he plays games.
You can’t argue he’s a point per game player because he’s ALMOST a point per game player.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
People kept calling Versteeg a 60 point player when knocking the deal to trade him…that was annoying
grass greener, water clearer, etc
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
dont forget how people would trade Kadri+Gunnar+1st for stastny but wouldnt trade b.schenn for Hemsky straight up
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by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
yes
well people are illogical is my whole point.
These are the same people that think it makes sense that MacArthur should get LESS money than Grabovski on his upcoming contract.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Now I can’t look at it any other way
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hemsky has had 1 full season in 8 years in the NHL. Stastny will have 3 full, healthy season through 5 years in the league. Big difference.
Stastny is also younger, just entering his prime as an NHLer, while Hemsky is already in his prime. Stastny plays C, Hemsky plays wing. Centers are more valuable.
Also, career PPG numbers? Stastny .94, Hemsky .81.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
by birky on Feb 26, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hemsky
has higher ppg numbers in the last 4 years than Stastny… I don’t care about career numbers at this point since Hemsky’s includes his first 2 years when he didn’t do a whole hell of a lot.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
and I'm not suggesting WE
trade for either…
we were talking about LA trading for Hemsky… I mentioned Stastny because Hemsky’s numbers are better in the past 4 years… and people have this really high valuation of Stastny but have a hard time thinking Hemsky is worth B. Schenn?
I think that’s ridiculous.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't think Hemsky is worth B. Schenn at this point in time for LA.
Unless they think this is “Their” year and want to do everything to put themselves over the top, not worth sacrificing their top prospect.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
but Hemsky
Isn’t exactly “done”… if he’s still there next year, then they get more use out of him.
It’s not like this is the ONLY year Hemsky would be around. He’s 27… not 38.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn
is probably 2 or 3 years away from contributing significantly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Do you see them going deep? Cup run?
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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Which would be perfect for the oilers, who are 2-3 years away from doing anything
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
right
and Hemsky pushes LA Closer to contending.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
as a deal
it seriously does make a lot of sense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Overpayment.
Whatevs, clearly were at an impasse, I’m not being persuaded. It’s probably all moot because I don’t think anything will happen, but we’ll find out in 48 hours.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
see you think Schenn is overpayment
i’d say if anything he’s an underpayment.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
It does, but it all depends on how high they value Schenn.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee the Oilers do that trade in a heartbeat so it’s up to the Kings.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I actually
don’t think they do it in a heartbeat… Hemsky is the 24th best scorer in the past 4 years in the NHL… you might want to build up the price a tad.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
ok
so you’re excluding seasons of 71, 72, and 74 games? 11 missed games or fewer.
Then why don’t we exclude 81, 66, 45, and 59 (so far this year?) for Stastny? I mean he’s only really played 1 full year so far himself.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn is by far too good to be in the OHL, he is a men among boys there, he is the same draft year as Kadri, but because of birth month he gets to be a league down
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn
isn’t in the OHL…. I think you mean WHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i ment to put CHL but whatever same difference
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Hemsky
is very injury prone though… he’s like Gaborik light.
But yeah he’d look really good on a line with Kopitar and Brown.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
He's talking about
Reimer right now…
He just rattled off the Potvin, CuJo, Belfour trio… then the big gap… and now Reim TIME!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Friedman
is now discussing the late season push… not sure that’s fair this season… they’ve been on an 88 point pace since their losing streak early in the season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I've been kind of ignoring it
boring to listen to a not so exciting game.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just as slow on TV. A lot of neutral zone play, limited shots and scoring chances…. yawn
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
according to the game sheet
1 shot for each team in the 2nd period so far.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
apparently Richmond got toasted in the fight
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely. He got fed to shit.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
he’s not much of a fighter, not surprised, who did he go with?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
volpatty or something, didn’t catch the name.
Just a straight up asskicking.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Richmond
isn’t much of a fighter, and Volpatti has 8 fights this year…. 6 in the AHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
this is why you don’t fight after clean hits, especially if you can’t fight
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
and yet
I looked it up and Richmond is leading the team in fights now with 9.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was one of those “stand up for your teammate” type things, whatever.
Nothing big came of it, everyone okay now
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
Ok watch THIS… Richmond apparently is feisty, but he picks fights he can’t win…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
funny funny funny
shit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah what’s up with that? Did a piece on that about 2 months ago. Clean hits are clean, do players overthink their role in protecting teammates…
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
well
the other side of it is, if they don’t do it, teammates might wonder why nobody is standing up for them. It’s a “team” thing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
a clean hit is a clean hit, but then sometimes you either dont know (missed it) and just see your player on the ice with the other guy standing over him or it looks “dirty” or particularly viscous from your angle. I never saw this hit so I can’t judge it by those standards, but I don’t blame guys for dropping em there
but lots of time it is very evident from everywhere that the hit was clean, legal and the guy who got clocked is the only one at fault. Those are the ones that piss me off when there is a fight after
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
“everywhere that the hit was clean, legal and the guy who got clocked is the only one at fault. Those are the ones that piss me off when there is a fight after” that’s exactly what I stated in my blog. Unfortunately, that site is currently down and I can’t link it. :(
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
I dont think the players all see exactly what happens on the hit, they just see one of their teammates go down and leap to the defense….regardless of how clean it was.
A lot of adrenaline running, not a lot of time/thought involved.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with both of you. That’s why it’s a bitch to eliminate.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
nm
Richmond actually leads the Marlies with 8 fights… so much for being a GOOD fighter though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Mueller still down and injured?
that’s not good.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
He just looks like he got the wind knocked out but hard to tell
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Mueller is okay
@chansler
Clayton Hansler
Mueller gets to his feet and skates to the bench under his own power. He won’t be leaving for the dressing room. Crazy hit.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
hello
just dropped by. Still 2-0?
Certified Grabbo lover. GET WELL SOON, SID
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
"I'm glad we've got the best fans in the league." - Tomas Kaberle on Leaf fans
Yup
Nothing happening in the 2nd really.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
yep
boring game to be honest… Richmond just got his ass kicked by Volpatti after trying to protect Mueller who went down on a clean hit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
radio link
up top… it’s being shown live on Rogers TV in Toronto.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Nonis
is the 2nd intermission interview on the radio version of the telecast.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Neat! Love hearing from Nonis
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Gus
gets lucky as he is caught out of the net, Moose can’t get the puck in front of the net
20 miles to Legoland!
Marlies
PP has been awesome since Colborne joined the team.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Kadri-Colborne-someone
Gyspers-Lashoff
Not a bad PP unit… I forget who they use as the RW
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
they've been using
Voros actually… but I think Scott, Hamilton, Zigomanis, and possible Brunnstrom or Mueller have been in there.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
1 for 2
today so far… 1 for 5 against Hershey, 1 for 5 against Grand Rapids, 0 for 7 against Hamilton, 1 for 4 last week against Manitoba in game 2
That makes them 4 for 23… or 17.4% recently. They had the 28th ranked PP in the AHL prior to the trade.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait for highlights of Kadri’s goal, it sounds sick
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
Stoik_Leafs Twitter
as I said earlier
Manitoba has been getting shit luck recently.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
End of the 2nd
This game could still go either way.
Kadri playing well, I haven’t really noticed Colborne since Marlies 2nd goal.
20 miles to Legoland!
well
he is participating on the PP from the sounds of things, but the whole team isn’t playing particularly well. Being outshot pretty badly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
being outshot
17-12… only 7-6 in the 2nd period though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's a big line
Hanson-Colborne-Cowan.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
4890
is the attendance for today’s game… we’re averaging just over 3000 a game, lower half of the AHL in attendance.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
this really blows my mind. I know MLSE doesnt need the cash, but why the hell are they not pressing this more?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
because
They don’t know how? That’s what I get from it. They should be showing more games on REAL TV… and promoting them more… and showing ads for the team only on Leafs TV? doesn’t make much sense… they could put more energy into promotion.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
why the hell is this game not on LeafsTV, that’s what I don’t get
every Marlies game should be, except when they have a scheduled Leaf game a the same time. That alone would make the package worth it to me. Why the hell do I want to see a NCAA game with one random leaf prospect or a Leafs Thrashers game from 2003 when I could be watching the Leafs best prospects?
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Compare this with
Chicago, who average 6,656 per game.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hamilton and Toronto
might split the draw? But Hamilton average 4,364 and Toronto average 4,278… ranked 19th and 20th in the AHL respectively.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t live in TO so I don’t know anything about the stadium. Is it in a bad location or really old?
The location sucks
It’s annoying to get to. If it was easy to get to by subway that might help
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
it's not hard to get to at all... you go to Union station and take the lakeshore street car to the ex
if you think that’s hard I’m not sure why.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
if you're ok on the Subway
then the street car shouldn’t bother you.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
and it's
RIGHT beside BMO field… and nobody seems pissed about the location of BMO field… so that’s a B.S. excuse.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's your opinion
It’s annoying to get to, and I’m sticking to it.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
well it isn’t the BEST location by any means, but depending on where you live it isnt exactly the least convenient place to get to
for me (in newmarket) anywhere down town is a pain, so it’s all relative
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
right
and if you live in Toronto near transit, it’s seriously NOT annoying to get to any more than anywhere else down there…. it’s not NEAR a lot of other stuff. but that’s incidental.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol
it’s 5 extra minutes on a street car. Have you TAKEN the street car to get there?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, on Wednesday
This is a moot argument, because I think it’s annoying to get to and you don’t…. moving on
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
well
you also think Hemsky sucks… I’m forming an opinion on your judgement skills :)
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
My judgment is fine, my opinions just differ from yours
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
well you don’t need to say something definitive like “Hemsky sucks!”
you can say “I hate Hemsky for irrational reasons”
hate and skill are not mutually exclusive
I for one cannot stand Kris Letang, but wouldnt say he sucks
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is it the hair?
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like it more if you were a girl saying that. “I love Kris Letang” Why? Well, he’s so… he knows how to… ah shaddap! :D
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
if i were a girl, I would be a lesbian, so that wouldn’t happen either, although i’d probably be jelous of his hair and hate him more
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hahah. Rec’d – I’m not sure what this does but I guess it’s some kind of merit for good stuff, so yeah.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I love Kris Letang!
Certified Grabbo lover. GET WELL SOON, SID
The universe moves depending on where Sidney Crosby is on the ice - IHeartPenguins
"I'm glad we've got the best fans in the league." - Tomas Kaberle on Leaf fans
Quel surpris.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 26, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I do to. But, his hair does piss me off.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
rec’d for showing hate for Kris Letang
by schennsational on Feb 26, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hemsky sucks was tongue and cheek because I had no backup in my arguments
And it’s hard to compete with Jared AND Steve at once… frankly I’m just not nearly as impressed with his play as his stats would seem to indicate
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
All of the doors to the parking garage are closed all of the time, that’s my only real complaint
Brett Lebda makes me cry myself to sleep every night
Stoik_Leafs Twitter
by Chris Stoikoff on Feb 26, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I bet their ticket prices are better
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
they are.
far.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
oh wait
you meant to Wolves games… let me check!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
4 game packs
for $63 USD… that means $15.75 to start per game… nope they aren’t significantly cheaper.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Chicago Wolves
IIRC (I had a conversation with someone who was from the Chicago area). The reason why the Wolves have been pretty popular is that their ownership is very aggressive with marketing, and capitalized on the BlackHawks being terrible and not showing their games on TV. So the awareness and accessibility of the Wolves were much higher.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 26, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
the
Leafs could do something similar with the Marlies… they just don’t.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I presume the Marlies aren’t a priority for MLSE.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 26, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
that's silly
they could maximize revenues there a lot more easily than squeezing more nickels out of the Leafs.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
We might see more attention brought to them with Burke at the helm.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 26, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
also, advertising.
If the MLSE ran some sort of “see the Leafs before they are Leafs” or whatever add campaign that didn’t just show up on a specialty channel it might help
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
yeah they have the ads
they just need to show the ad on regular TV.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
You’d be surprised at the amount of Leaf “fans” who have no idea who the Marlies, let alone what the AHL is.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Feb 26, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
From what I understand, the Ricoh being at Exhibition Place hurts them alot.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
again
it’s right next to BMO field… nobody complains about that location… this is a cop out argument.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
so you think
the BMO location is bad?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
PLAYOFFS!!1
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
this bodes well, at least for his confidence
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
yes
he’s done well… it’s good to see.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
if anything, he is again looking like he could at least be potentially decent in a tandem with Reimer next year facing the Ottawas and edmontons of the world
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Feb 26, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Detroit and MTL are championing the Leafs’ cause tonight.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
I hate that MTL has to be our champion.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Feb 26, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Montreal has to be their champion. Make no mistake, they need this game.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Feb 26, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I prefer seeing it this way. Now, if someone cheers for Montreal, I can ask them “Oh, good, so you’re a Leafs fan?” and it will bother them to no end.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
around
mid April… so not that different really.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Feb 26, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
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