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by PPP on Mar 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintAs anyone following the NHL even remotely can imagine, Maple Leafs fans are kind of interested in some kid named James Reimer. I'm not going to say that he single-handedly saved the Maple Leafs' year but mostly because I know that, contrary to media reports, James Reimer has used both hands to move the Leafs from second straight disaster to a long shot for the playoffs.
At the risk of making him the subject of every Noon Number - Do you know how many Leafs' rookie goalies have won nine games in their first year? - here is one more:
There have only been three rookie goalies from the 1995-96 season to pick up 13 wins in their inaugural season along with a save percentage above .920 and were under 25. Here's where Reimer's rookie season fits in thus far:
| Rk | Player | Season | Age | Tm | GP | W | L | T/O | SV% | GAA | SO |
| 1 | Henrik Lundqvist | 2005-06 | 23 | NYR | 53 | 30 | 12 | 9 | 0.922 | 2.24 | 2 |
| 2 | James Reimer | 2010-11 | 22 | TOR | 28 | 15 | 7 | 4 | 0.922 | 2.59 | 2 |
| 3 | Marty Turco | 2000-01 | 25 | DAL | 26 | 13 | 6 | 1 | 0.925 | 1.90 | 3 |
Something to keep in mind is that Turco and Aebischer were playing on a couple of powerhouse teams when they put up their numbers. There's still a way to go but if Reimer can keep it up that's some good company among which to end his season.
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I think that is Aebishers second season, which makes it even more impressive that Reimer is only in Lundqvist and Turcos company.
Yeah
Weird. Not sure how he got in there. fixing it.
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Also I just checked Raycroft’s and despite the fact he played in the league previously (20gms), his Calder Trophy winning year he had .926.
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by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Raycroft doesn’t have a sick nickname.
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Meh, Optimus Reim has a better ring to it than Andrew Raycrap.
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by Frag on Mar 21, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Mar 21, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t count. Wasn’t his first year.
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That works for me. His first year of 2.96 GAA, and .890 Sv Pct. was a lot more telling of who Raycroft is as a goaltender than his flash in the pan Calder season anyway.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
2006: 4th round: 99th overall – James Reimer
2007: 4th round: 99th overall – Matt Frattin
Who needs high 1st round picks when we’ve got 99th overall picks?
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by Frag on Mar 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
if either one of those players ever puts the leafs past the conference finals into the cup finals then I will consider the hockey gods just
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Mar 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, another thing to notice in your post is that Reimer is the youngest of the 4 mentioned. Not bad.
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That’s really great company, which furthers optimism on Reimer…the only worrying bit is Aebischer
These aren't the droids you're looking for.....
Aebisher had 3 solid years as a starter and then became a servicable backup. I might be setting the bar too low, but after the past few years that doesn’t seem too bad to me.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Aebischer had his rookie season on a Stanley cup winning team, and the team was a contender the following two years as well so I have a bit more hope for Reimer. But definitely we still need to see more of Reimer.
by ShahofToronto on Mar 21, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Joking aside, next year he may disappoint.
Until then, OPTIMISM!!
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know anyone who’s going to be disappointed with a Vezina and Conn Smythe Trophy.
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It’ll be hard for him to win the Hart and Conn Smythe since he’ll be splitting the vote on both of those with Calder and Art Ross winner Nazem Kadri and Norris winner Luke Schenn.
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Kadri will not win the Art Ross
Reimer will with his slick passing and laser shot.
by scrambles the death dealer on Mar 21, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Clark MacArtRoss will win the Art Ross.
by Shield on Mar 21, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kadri will win the Lady Byng!
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Are you kidding me?
Reimer will win the Lady Byng, he never swears.
by scrambles the death dealer on Mar 22, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
this is great
finally having some goaltending that fans can talk about without wanting to pull their hair out
by pho king awesome on Mar 21, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
Goalies who:
1. Played 1500 minutes
2. First three seasons
3. Under 25
Sorted by save pct:
1. Rask
2. Lundqvist
3. Reimer
4. Luongo
5. Price
6. Lundqvist
7. Bobrovsky
8. Mason
9. Neuvirth
10. Halak
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Is that
Their SV% in the rookie year, or over all 3?
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he means that Reimer doesn’t blow his top and throw milk crates onto the ice.
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by thenumber14 on Mar 21, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I guess I don’t follow Boston enough. I didn’t know of Rask’s anger
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He’s just like Pogge except he can stop pucks.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude also freaked out on the Boston D after letting in Aulie’s slapper on Saturday. Craig Simpson went on and on about that the rest of the game. Which is good as it distracted him from his Leafs bashing.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If it was up to Craig Simpson Rask probably wouldn’t play another game in the NHL after that. He had a hard time letting go of that one.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
If Rask was on the leafs he would be going off on Lebda or Komi nightly, and Toronto fans would love him for doing that!
I dunno. I cringe every time the Monster acts out after a bad goal. I like my goalies nice and stable. Stable emotionally. Stable mentally for a netminder is not possible.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Leaf goaltenders should deal with Lebda and Komisareks crappy play in private. Vocal public disapproval is up to us.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is another Tuuka outburst.
http://video.predators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=-6&id=103545
Rask is a nutter.
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List not entirely accurate
Missing Niklas Backstrom and Roman Cechmanek.
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Though Backstrom and Cechmanek were significantly older during their rookie years (28, 29).
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by Bower Power on Mar 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Age not part of the original criteria set forth by our internet-illiterate overlord.
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Yeah, didn’t mean they should be left off the list – just wanted to highlight the difference.
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He’s made Giguere pretty much expendable at the end of the season. I really hope Reims’ great play continues for a long time to come. With Rynnas and Scrivens playing strong for the Marlies, our goalie future is looking good.
by B-Style on Mar 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I have a hard time believing Burke isn’t going to bring in a veteran goalie next year. Some are hoping for Bryzgalov but I think we’re going to go with somebody cheaper like Marty Biron (not him specifically he’s signed).
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it...
That would mean sending Gus to the minors and Scrivens back to the ECHL.
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love for Jonas to step up next year and play well. But, is that a risk the team is willing to take? I doubt it. I would place my bet on Burke signing a good vet UFA and waives Jonas.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
alternatively to waiving Jonas right off the hop, they could “continue the controversy” and keep 3 goalies until they’re sure that Reimer is legit, or better still Gus has turned the corner.
I’m happy to have a controversy that results in good goaltending for the year.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
they could "continue the controversy" and keep 3 goalies
Burke won’t and shouldn’t keep 3 goalies. If he signs a UFA goalie then Monster hits the Marlies.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes no sense
If we sign a backup goalie then why not just use Gustavsson? If we’re signing a starting goalie, then what about Reimer’s development. I’d rather we spend our cap space on forwards rather than adding a goalie just for the sake of adding one
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Bring in Bryzgalov or Vokoun. Give Reimer 30 starts and the vet 52. If Reimer becomes the better option we won’t be complaining.
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And then we’ll trade the other guy for a king’s ransom at the deadline.
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Ya Burke better make sure he’s careful with those NTC/NMC’s if he goes for a UFA goalie.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t like ‘em, won’t sign guys to them, honors those who have them.
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Mike Komisarek has an NMC.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s nothing. Just means he can’t be sent to the AHL without giving it the ok. It’s the NTCs that suck.
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Yeah, and besides, you can’t land a guy like Komisarek for only $22.5 mil over 5 years without sweeting the pot a little.
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by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just means he can’t be sent to the AHL
There-in lies the problem IF he shits the bed.
If we sign a UFA goalie who is constantly injured or overpaid/untradable, even burying him becomes impossible.
If Souray, Finger, Redden all had NMC’s this year’s cap situation would look mighty different.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke doesn’t mind giving out reasonable ones. ie the NMC part that means you can’t be waived to the AHL and requiring a list of ~10 teams.
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NMCs can be catastrophic.
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by The '67 Sound on Mar 21, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not for Muskoka, which is evidently where players with NMCs summer.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody in Muskoka missed a huge marketing opportunity, IMO
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Imagine the endorsement fees! Although I’m sure Tucker is doing just fine with that buyout money we’re still paying him.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The NMC means he can’t be waived. I wasn’t talking about his limited NTC.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s Plan B when both of those guys are off the market before July 1?
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Cry deeply.
I agree it’s unlikely; I’m sharing the rationale of what do with Reimer if you bring in a goalie.
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Okay, but what is Plan B?
Reimer / Gustavsson?
Reimer / winner of job in training camp?
Reimer / UFA Backup X?
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Reimer Gustavsson through training camp and November. If Gustavsson can’t hold up the load, sign whoever the hell is still around for bottom of the market prices. Gustavsson goes to marlies or the press box as we gauge any league interest for trade value.
Hint: Next year is also a development year for this team.
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Hint: Next year is also a development year for this team.
Ya, development all the way into PLAYOFFS!!!
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
UFA backup X?
Shouldn’t they exhaust UFA backups I through IX first?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a better option than going through UFA Backups A through W
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That would be a lot more backups.
Serious opinion: I like Monster as a backup before a UFA. If you’re dipping into the market it should be for a starter.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
We should have our UFA backups go to XI. You know, for when you need that extra push over the cliff.
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We should always go to XI
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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
We have our own draft pick so the alternative is Reimer/Gustavsson and Rynnas and Scrivens if need be.
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Reimer/Gus… if Gus can’t prove himself next year I don’t know how long he’ll be in the organization.
Unless he clears waivers, then he can rock the Marlies for a while.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
In all honesty though, if they both crap the bed in the first month of the season, Burke is not going to let them spend the rest of the year “proving” themselves either. Some may want him to but it’s not going to happen. He’ll either sign whatever is left in the double-discount bin or make a trade that we’ll spend ages complaining about.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Then we’ll see what Isles want for Nabokov… would he still have to clear waivers before a trade next year?
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If both goalies shit the bed, it’s hard to argue with Nabokov for 570k.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
570k if you’re the Red Wings.
In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom
by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Since he didn’t report this season, don’t the Isles carry that contract forward a year? I’m not sure about the rules when it comes to not reporting to your team….
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the contract rolled over. He’s still Islanders property.
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Hard to believe he’s gonna report to the Isle (or the Leafs for that matter) for 570k.
In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom
by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he should have just reported this year, earned a bunch of starts, put up decent numbers, then signed a real NHL contract next year.
But I’m not his agent.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess they were thinking that the Isles wouldnt claim him if they threatened not to report. Bad idea.
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s hilarious he still hasn’t shown up for work.
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by theninjagreg on Mar 21, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
From my understanding, no. That clearing waivers thing was only to prevent players from playing in the KHL and coming in to join a playoff team
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh I forgot about that guy.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And yes, I would also pass on Nabby
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What are your guys’ opinion on Conklin as a back-up?
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If he’s still around and Reim/Gus can’t handle the load he’s not the worst choice. I can think of a few ones I’d do before him though…
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
BCWW?
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s no better than Gustavsson
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear he comes with an outdoor game as a signing bonus
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to think I’d like to keep Giguere on board if he took a pay cut, but after that Florida game… Eeeeeeh. Not so much.
by B-Style on Mar 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was performing poorly way before the Florida game.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun has an NMC
And the rumbling (for whatever that was worth) seemed to be he wasn’t interested in moving, particularly mid season. My guess is wherever he goes, he wants an NMC.
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I don’t think it’s “just for the sake of it.”
I’m loving Reimer as much as the next guy, but there is still a mountain to climb. I think back to how satisfied I was with Jonas in net at the end of last year. Then look what happens.
The point is, we don’t know what we’ve got in Reimer yet. We hope (and think) we’ve got the diamond, but we don’t know.
Besides, I doubt sharing the load with another good goalie is going to hurt his development.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not doing so would mean our goaltending, across the entire organization, would total less than 100 NHL games played. That’s an awful risky gamble. There’s no plan B if something goes wrong mid-season or if both Reimer and Gustavsson go pear-shaped to start the year. Does it matter if the team isn’t going to be a contender next year anyways? Some would argue no. But I can’t see Burke looking at things that way at all.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s assuming Reimer plays all 9 of the final games of the season, btw.
31+65 (Gustavsson) = 96 games
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Counterpoint, Washington had a combined total of 54 games played between its starting goalies this year.
Not saying it isn’t risky, but it’s not unprecedented either, and Washington isn’t a rebuilding team.
by Draglikepull on Mar 21, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure. As I was saying, taking a risk like this is either going to pay off in spades or blow up in your face. Toronto is also pretty far removed from Washington. I remain unconvinced Burke is going to take the same risk.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The 1974-1975 Washington Capitals, which went 8-67-5 with the lowest win percentage and fewest points in history, went with a goaltending trio of Ron Low, John Adams and Michel Belhumeur. Their games played total? 79.
Full disclosure: this is a ridiculous example but clearly if it goes wrong it can go very, very wrong.
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by T is for Truculence on Mar 21, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll still have scrivens next year.
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He’s an RFA that more importantly, signed to play with Allaire and seems to be happy with Allaire. Our goaltending prospects are also thinning out a little bit – he was outplaying Rynnas for some period of time, Gustavsson’s NHL upside is more questionable, and he’s due for the lion’s share of some AHL time next year.
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I don’t know if he’ll get the lion’s share over Rynnas. I imagine its pretty 50/50 at this point. Rynnas had a hot month and is still getting used to the new ice surface. I’d be happy if they each get ~35 games next year and one of them gets a taste in the N if an injury arises
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I can’t think of any reason to do anything but re-sign him.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Giggy was going to be jettisoned at the end of the year in any event, his wonky groin and the fiery rise of Reimer just helps us feel good about it.
The drama I’m waiting for is when/if Burke signs one of those UFA #1 goalies…. and then (OPTIMISM!!!1) Reimer plays his way into making another vet dispensable.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Mar 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bryzgalov? No problem!
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Allaire was just saying in an interview recently that Toronto have no goalies in junior or college. Not sure if that is true. But if it is the case, maybe this draft they will choose a few to keep feeding the hopper.
They have Rollheiser, but I think the Leafs may have given up on him and Allaire just let the cat out of the bag on that one.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a junior and he got into 5 games this season.
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That seems like BU is giving up on him too.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Milan was fourth in Hockey East in SVP and GAA. Rollheiser put up Toskalesque numbers in his few starts. Gotta ride the #1. It also makes sense that going from John Curry (AHL all star this year) to Kierin Milan, BU was due for a bust goaltender at some point.
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Rollheiser’s a bust. 5 GP, .885, 3.98 GAA as a junior. But that’s fine, since at 21, he’s really too old to fit in to the depth chart we have going now, with Scrivens, Rynnas, and Reimer all at or around that age. We’re looking to go younger – kids with another year of junior to go, who can eventually fill in for those of our current prospects who don’t pan out.
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Guy was like a 5th or 6th round pick. You can’t be a bust because it’s a miracel if you make it to begin with.
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Yeah, but saying “he lived up to expectations relative to his draft position” is kind of a downer.
Rollheiser “is unlikely to have a future as a regular starter in the NHL.”
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I wouldn’t mind Burke rolling the dice on Benjamin Conz
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Allaire had good luck with Hiller, why not give him another Swiss goalie to work with?
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Though Conz is only 5’10 and Allaire doesn’t have any under 6’0 success stories that I know of.
by YakovMironov on Mar 21, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
…yet
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/emeryra01/gamelog/2011/
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Not bad for a man with rubber legs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d really like to see him come back from this injury.
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Cause he reminded you of Ron Hextall
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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can anyone tell me how many more points we might have if we had .922 goaltending all season long? im trying to settle an arguement with a habs fan
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Last time I checked it would have meant six-seven more points.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It would
Decrease our GAA by 0.68 (3.08 to 2.40), a decrease of a whopping 50 GA.
That would leave our current numbers at 192 GF and 175 GA. You can use those in the pythagorean predictor.
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Probably exactly where the Habs are if we had Price in net all year.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I ran it on
GF^1.68/(GF^1.68 +GA^1.68). It gives us a W% of 0.539. Which (I think) means that we would get 39 W. I don’t think (I may be mistaken) that it accurately predicts OTL or SOL. So we would have an increase of 7 W thus far or 14 points. I don’t know though if it would increase our OTL’s.
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by Matt_Roberts on Mar 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a problem with the stat is that very few rookie goalies, and very few 24 year-olds, play 25 games or more in their rookie season.
You need the denominator (number of goalies who fit the bill) to figure out how optimistic to be.
I don’t need any stinkin’ denominator to be optimistic.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You know who played 23 games and put up a .927 in his rookie year?
Just another Allaire goaltender.
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Technically
That is a 0.9197. The search feature we are all using to collect these lists is very literal (hockeyreference.com) so doesn’t include that in >=0.920
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Its incredible but at least its not that ridiculously unheard of (the way his S% was earlier in the year). Hasek did it once and Thomas already has a year over 0.930.
Here is the list of all goalies who have played more than 40 games and had a S% over 0.930.
Note his is the second best season of all time right now.
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Feel bad for Reimer he’s getting no help from the D and getting peppered every game. We have some strong blueliners coming up but they aren’t ready yet as always we’re just gonna need some patience I guess. Glad to see we have a goalie that seems to be able to stand the Toronto pressure cooker so far I honestly think Rask would go insane if he stayed with the Leafs he throws enough hissy fits with boston now.
Honestly
Were middle of the pack in SA/G at 30.8 That places us at 17th. I am note sure if saying he gets peppered is so fair. A guy who gets (got?) peppered is HIller.
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No, he gets peppered.
Or Avg. Shots Against is up about 5 a game since Beauchemin got traded.
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In your defence, this was a Noon Number discussion last week while you were gone.
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Part of that is due to score effects since the Leafs are leading much more often now.
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Lundqvist
Reimer since coming up ironically has always reminded me of the way Lundqvist plays…hopefully a sign of things to come if he can be that good eventually
Is Anderson worth...
…3.2 a year for 4 years? Is it just me or is this a reverse (perhaps a small reverse) in the trend toward ever cheaper goalies? If this is good value, I worry about what Burke will do in the summer if there are any UFA’s left.
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Anderson was #3 on the list of UFA goalies this summer, behind Bryz and Vokoun.
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He still wasn’t worth 3.2 for 4 years, I’d say. He’s got one year over 50 gp – I’d have been aiming for a much shorter term if I were OTT.
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I think he will either A) Return to the ridiculous sv% he had with Colorado last year, or B) Shit the bed.
I’d prefer B (even if it helps Ottawa’s tank) because we play them so often and would love to have a team we can prey on in our division.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently he was upset playing in Colorado because they were bad.
I don’t know how much stock I put in that, especially since Colorado is bad because he was putting up sub .900 goaltending this season, but Ottawa’s going to be in rough shape even if they get .920 goaltending next year. Hopefully (for us) Anderson hates it.
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"For me, it’s not about the money," Anderson said. "It’s about having a good fit and finding a place where I’m going to be happy, where players are treated with respect and the organization communicates with their players."
So yeah, it probably wasn’t just because they were losing.
“Source”: http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2011/03/21/anderson-takes-thinly-veiled-shot-at-avalanche/6711/
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Trade demand? Trade demand!
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 21, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
As anyone following the NHL even remotely can imagine, Maple Leafs fans are kind of interested in some kid named James Reimer.
Really ? No Kidding !
WHO IS HE ? !
I jest and kid of course.
Reimer is a stud goalie. Right up there with Braydon Holtby and Sergei Bobrovsky
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Does anyone whether Reimer qualifies as a rookie next year? Or how the whole Calder eligibility thing works?
Already crossed it. Kadri and Aulie will cross it too before the end of the year.
Forget about Calder guys, its just a stupid trophy. We likely won’t have anyone with a shot at it at least for another year, barring some miracle surprise.
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by nhlcheapshot on Mar 22, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
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