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William Alfonso is a lifelong Torontonian but he reads Peterborough This Week — and he says his 2-year-old son will, too. 

"My brother-in-law bought him a copy of the Toronto Star and I said, ‘That’s going in the bottom of the bird cage. That’s not going anywhere near his crib.’ I refused to have that near him. Sure his utter lack of critical-thinking skills make him part of the Star’s target audience, but my son is a winner — not a loser," Alfonso said.   

Star-divide

The Star used to be a winner. The paper is still the most highly read daily paper in all of Canada but circulation numbers are down nearly 33% over the last five years. 

While the Star’s readers hold on to the futile hope that their newspaper can regain relevance, another group plan to celebrate the Star’s continued decline – a decline which was most recently on display during last year’s mayoral election in Toronto. 

"It’s such a garbage organization. It’s not worth the paper it is printed on," said Alfonso, who was born and raised in Etobicoke. "I see them as a joke. Their inept cheerleading while acting as George Smitherman’s propaganda wing actually created so much sympathy for Rob Ford that we now have a rube who wants to take us back to the 1950s running the city. Way to go, dicks." 

Daniel Davis has been a Northumberland Today fan all his 29 years, even though he grew up in Caledon, just north of Toronto. 

"It’s easy to make fun of the Star," Davis said. "I mean, Ernest fucking Hemingway used to write for that paper. Now someone just has to interview some obnoxious frontrunners, copy and paste some quotes from Twitter and Facebook, and they have call that a story. Must be nice getting to the pub by noon." 

How does David Hebner feel about the Star? Well let’s just say that Hebner wished death upon all the staff at the paper. We’ve chosen not to publish his comment because we actually have some editorial standards around here at PPP. 

Hebner has been living in Toronto for 16 years but his allegiance lies with his hometown paper, the Montreal Gazette. He sits in the over-19 section at Schuey’s Bar & Grill in Etobicoke — Star readers have their own section, too, complete with complimentary crayons and place-mats with mazes and puzzles on them — and looks forward to a Star-free world. 

"Their numbers are dwindling, and that obviously has a lot to do with the amount of other options out there. I get my news and sports info mostly from blogs now. I know the Star has developed an online presence, but if their answer to the internet is to have Rosie DiManno auditioning for a job at World Net Daily by writing crazy racist shit about Chinese People, well I think they are doomed." 

Toronto-born Nick Patrick used to read the Star — "I didn’t know any better" — but now he reads the Toronto Sun. The 51-year-old bet a friend a home-cooked meal that Pat Burns was still alive after the Star had posted news of his death on Twitter. "It was an easy win," he says. "When the Star prints something, especially the sports department, it’s usually best to believe the opposite." 

For our final piece of evidence, we’re going to the Twitter. Because, you know, cribbing tweets written by randoms on an uncensored and unverifiable medium is what passes for journalism these days. So, here are some tweets:

"Can’t wait for (Tuesday)'s edition of the Star. I'm house-training a puppy," wrote @oufawcett.

"Does Toronto even have an decrepit, failing quasi-left-wing newspaper?" wrote @leakyorlando

"Being a Star reader is good for you. Every time a Liberal candidate you supported turns out to be a craven hack with no principles beyond getting elected,  you’re allowed to have a good long cry in public," wrote @chriscorgan.

"Toronto citizens who have long waited for a quality broadsheet, read the New York Times online — you’ll be happier," wrote @kfalokagas. 

Charles Robinson moved to Toronto from Windsor 30 years ago but said he’ll never be a Star reader. Still, he said the newspaper's slide into self-parody is disappointing. 

"I'm a believer in Thomas Jefferson's maxim that "The press is the best instrument for improving the mind of man, and improving him as a rational, moral, and social being"" Robinson said. "For me, the Toronto Star's trolling of its readership in a desperate attempt for attention is ridiculous. Also, Damien Cox."

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Twitter me this.

by happiergilmore on Mar 31, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh man, the Cox Bloc glory days are back. This was incredible. I just spit water on my screen for real.

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

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by Chemmy on Mar 31, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy Recs in Effect Batmang.

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by Biff Carrington on Mar 31, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Their inept cheerleading while acting as George Smitherman’s propaganda wing actually created so much sympathy for Rob Ford that we now have a rube who wants to take us back to the 1950s running the city. Way to go, dicks

Just re-read the piece again. This line is so perfect scientists can use it to calibrate their instruments.

And, what, no James Korderas’ in the Toronto suburbs?

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by Biff Carrington on Mar 31, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best part of the article

Using wrestling officials names for the people.

WELL FUCKIN DONE

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by leafer1984 on Mar 31, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Dang! I was hoping to be the first person to make this comment!

Nick Patrick and Charles Robinson. No love for Randy Anderson?

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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the heck is this collection of nonsense and why is it so awesome?

On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
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by Ubiquitous on Mar 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Jesus tittyfucking Christ… this is awesome.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 31, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, Chemmy wrote a NNN on it. (at least i assume its the same one)

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by Ubiquitous on Mar 31, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

BRAVO

Im starting a slow clap right now

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

standing ovation.

WE MISS YOU TOMAS

by daoust on Mar 31, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

BAHAHA

What did Dave’s brother Earl have to say about the Star?

Also, Nick Patrick and Charles Robinson. Bravo.

by Papa Squid on Mar 31, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Incidentally, that story this week about Jose and Ozzie Canseco pulling the old switcheroo on some MMA fighting promotion reminded me of the time Dave and Earl switched places and cost Hogan the Title!

by Papa Squid on Mar 31, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just peed in me pants

Earl was paid some shut up money from Ted Dibiase

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, I totally blanked on the Danny Davis and Dave Hebner ref’s! Awesome.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 31, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torpedoed!

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by Chemmy on Mar 31, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy wow this is amazing. Probably the best media-related thing I’ll read all year. I don’t know what made me laugh more, the Rosie DiManno line or the crayons bit.

Nice job.

by theactivestick on Mar 31, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s so beautiful.

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

holy shit awesome. Rec’d

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by Leafer87 on Mar 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

wash your mouth kid!

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by sportsfan2 on Mar 31, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure his utter lack of critical-thinking skills make him part of the star’s target audience

A+.

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Mar 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Fantastic reading!

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by Future_considerations on Mar 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Amazing

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by Semi_Colon on Mar 31, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

When the Star prints something, especially the sports department, it’s usually best to believe the opposite.

Couldn’t have said it better….

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by TheNadger on Mar 31, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Friggin' awesomeness.

And is it nerdy and geeky that I got the references from where you got the names?

by Marc Pilgrim on Mar 31, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Not nearly as needy and geeky as us for using those names in the first place.

I’m glad people get the references though. Makes me feel a little less alone in this world…

by Cox Bloc on Mar 31, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure the one million rec’s on the way will help too dude!

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Mar 31, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

HUZZAH!

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Mar 31, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely. Frickin’. Awesome.

by spoonie on Mar 31, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

/Standsuptoclap

I don’t normally bother with the back and forth – but this was well deserved

BS

by MapleLeafMole on Mar 31, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Very Smart post! Love it!

by Rockarolla on Mar 31, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Standing and Clapping.

Beautifully done. I believe it would be appropriate to now turn, look at the Star’s editorial staff and say, “BOOM.”

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by jrwendelman on Mar 31, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish there was a way to post this in their lunch room

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just mailed it to chloe fedio at the star, writer of that piece of shit article

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

bravo. I walk by the star building every day after work to union. i should paste a copy of this to their front doors.

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by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, you should.

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by SkinnyFish on Mar 31, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll print multiple copies and keep replacing it each day afer it gets taken down.

Oh! Everyone should stick them inside copies of The Star at newsstands.

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by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

pleassse actually do this. it would be awesome.

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by mariamS on Mar 31, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll make sure to wait until I have my camera on me.

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by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

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by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know she has a website?

No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.

by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

odd that this perfect piece of journalism isn’t on the front page as a recent article.

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by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

by this i mean HER story.

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by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

She just emailed me back, calling this an ‘amusing parody’.

I’m not sure how to take this except with large amounts of rage.

No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.

by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno…“amusing parody” was what we were going for. At least she has a sense of humour.

by Cox Bloc on Mar 31, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much depends on how much went over her head.

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by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it wasn’t her idea, but was told to write it.

"He should be wearing a Sens sweater" - describing someone acting less than sane or competent. Use it.

by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to defend any of it, but (as an editor myself) I can imagine this kind of story had been canned and waiting for the eventual non-playoff moment, and she just ended up being the hack who had to put it together.

Also, I haven’t lived in TO for nearly 15 years… Has the Star really gotten that bad? (Not trying to be contrarian, just curious.)
 

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by Berezin's Spleen on Mar 31, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that sounds about right, looking at her previous articles, she must have been goofing of fon facebook or soemthing, the editor saw and made her put her name on it.

"He should be wearing a Sens sweater" - describing someone acting less than sane or competent. Use it.

by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

“You’re new and terrible. Please write this piece that’ll insult our core readership.”

No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.

by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, that’s probably pretty close to the truth (though replace “insult” with “rile up and drive traffic”).

Again, not defending this… The whole race to the bottom by certain parts of “old media” (i.e. panicky old editors) depresses the shit out of me (sadder still, I don’t even think it’s going to work in the long run).

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by Berezin's Spleen on Mar 31, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why the real media is better than blogs

because real people’s names are on the article, so you KNOW who believes these things.

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by Wan Ihite on Mar 31, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think that you could write a story looking at the diverse fan groups across the city and why they cheer for their team without making it about shitting on Leafs fans and wishing that the team would die.

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep, that would be been the proper route to go. but “I’m a Habs fan, i hope Reimer gets his neck cut open and he bleeds to death in front of thousands of people” has a certain ring to it.

"He should be wearing a Sens sweater" - describing someone acting less than sane or competent. Use it.

by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

She could, but that would require more than five minutes of actual work.

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an article with a flawed premise. I don’t really see what an article like that, even properly done, would illuminate. Hey look, here are people of other fanbases. Let’s ask them why they hate the Leafs. As if they don’t have enough of a platform already? It’s not exactly giving voice to the voiceless or shining a light on a silent minority or anything.

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Mar 31, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ve been sending some of my own literature to her, shock and awe if you know what I mean

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing.

Can’t believe how low they go to troll their readership. I still like Doug Smith and his Raptors coverage though….

by CelicaCrazed on Mar 31, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

This is brilliant.

But I do want to say that Cathal Kelly is far better than the sports section he writes for.

by samspade on Mar 31, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

He can be when he’s not trying to bait TFC fans. He’s gotten away from that of late which is good.

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

do they get the same speal as Leaf fans (since they’re both MLSE teams)?

"He should be wearing a Sens sweater" - describing someone acting less than sane or competent. Use it.

by elseldo on Mar 31, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now someone just has to interview some obnoxious frontrunners, copy and paste some quotes from Twitter and Facebook, and they have call that a story. bq.

We’ve chosen not to publish his comment because we actually have some editorial standards around here at PPP. bq.

hahaahaha!! obviously, rec’d
great piece.
makes me feel muchhhh better after last night.

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by mariamS on Mar 31, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

What, am I supposed to go back to the Star sports section now out of sympathy for the burn they just received? Just tell me what to do, I have no idea.

This is really amazing.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Mar 31, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Perfect. Just absolutely perfect.
That Star article really was a tipping point for me. I mean, the quote about hoping for a plane crash? What the hell is that?

by Jo4nny on Mar 31, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What an age to be alive.

...rely a bit to heavily on alcohol and irony...

by My Poor Friend Me on Mar 31, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Moon pie!

Let the Wookie win.

by Kenjamin on Apr 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should formally submit this as a “letter to the editor.” That would be glorious.

"You said you didn't give a f#%k about hockey. And I never saw someone say that before..."

by TheBurnward on Mar 31, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yes, this.

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by Leafer87 on Mar 31, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Standing ovation.

Well done.

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by Jevant on Mar 31, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome

rec #53 from me… great stuff!

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by Kent Basky on Mar 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

All that’s missing is someone who can’t wait for their “plane to crash”… or is that “news stand to burn down”, in the face of electronic media.

Bravo.

by Learn2Leaf on Mar 31, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t understand why they included the “plane crash” part, completely classless

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most rec'd post in history?

Most rec’d post in history

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by Semi_Colon on Mar 31, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

would it be ironic if

i did some leaf-hate trolling on this post?
anyway, most excellent post… fully deserving of another rec from my and I say it wins the SBN hockey blog Hart Trophy for the 2010-2011 bloggity season.

by Beantown Canuck on Mar 31, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You’re at 62 Recs now, if my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 67 Recs, you’re going to see some serious shit.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 31, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I hope the Libyans don’t find this

by TomServo42 on Mar 31, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damien Cox himself will stop by to give rec #67

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by birky on Mar 31, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He found us, I don’t know how but he found us.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m #66 (no, not Mario)

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by 1967ers on Mar 31, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I FOUND COX

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by sportsfan2 on Mar 31, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by thenumber14 on Mar 31, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

BCWW

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by Leafswinthecup on Mar 31, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

63rd rec from me.

Sweet jesus in heaven this is incredible.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Mar 31, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

67 RECS

LOCK THIS POST IN ETERNITY

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by Chris Stoikoff on Mar 31, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry to say this

And I do realize that I have no credibility being a nobody here, but I have no interest in this SBN vs MSM battle. I’m on PPP essentially all day, and read almost everything posted here, but I come here to read about my beloved hockey team, and not about how much the Star sucks.

Really, who cares? Obviously 67+ people here do. I personally don’t see how this makes the front page of the #1 Leaf-centric site on the interweb.

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by Swizzle on Mar 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

1. It’s funny.
2. They started it.

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by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damien?

More seriously, the media climate surrounding the team and reflections on the fanbase are just as much a part of the team as anything else. If you’d like to talk strictly hockey, there’s a space for that too – in the 500 comment FTB.

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

not trying to be a dick or anything. I just recall earlier in the year when the Toronto Sun translation/plagiarism issue was abound. There was almost a week of nothing but MSM talk here.

Thank god for Mirtle, i guess

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by Swizzle on Mar 31, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

People here put in a lot of hard work for little tangible reward they have a right to be upset if their work is stolen.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 31, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. most of us would be pissed off if one of us put a lot of work into an article and then have some jerkstore steal it.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 31, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Said ironically?

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by T is for Truculence on Mar 31, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, difference between satire and theft.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 31, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of people here are writers in some capacity or another – even if it’s just for the blog, even if it’s just in a handful of fan posts. So when work gets stolen from the blog, it’s a decent discussion to have. But it’s not a discussion that cut down on Leaf talk at all – it was a second discussion that we were having.

In short: I would understand the complaint if MSM-talk was coming at the expense of hockey talk, but instead, we just increase the level of discussion. If you’re not interested in posts about the health of the blog, the work of the blog, or writing in and out of the Toronto sports space, meh, just don’t read ’em.

tl;dr: “get over it.” (reference)

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

instead, we just increase the level of discussion

I didn’t even think that was possible!

Seriously though I think PPP is on the front lines of the MSM-blogosphere relationship. I do work in the MSM (am I allowed to admit that?) and I find it fascinating to see this unfolding. But then I am a journalism geek.

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by T is for Truculence on Mar 31, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re allowed to admit it, but if you’re doing everything in your position to further the benefits of PPP.com, you’re not giving your all.

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do work in the MSM

BURN THE WITCH!

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, if she weighs the same as a duck, she’s a witch?

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by kudzupo on Mar 31, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. It was topical. They stole two of our fucking articles.
2. It was August and like we said then, when hockey comes, they’ll be few and far between. We’ve probably written 600-700 posts and a handful of media articles.
3. This site’s Leafs-centric because we choose to make it Leafs-centric. Maybe Chemmy will write about the Red Sox all summer and I’ll write about TFC.

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by PPP on Mar 31, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh you’d fucking better not I’ll come right through this monitor!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 31, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man I’ll write so many comments about Asset Management! I’ll do it!

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Mar 31, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard enough being a Leafs fan without MSM handing out Habs-coloured slingshots with 1967-shaped munitions.

That’s why it’s so cathartic to write/read/rant about their stupidity.

by Jo4nny on Mar 31, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is awesome

I laughed the first time, but then after reading the original article it just became incredible.

by pho king awesome on Mar 31, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

did i miss something in the article i don’t see anything about a plane crash??

by pho king awesome on Mar 31, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

they removed the line about the plane crash sometime yesterday.

by Cox Bloc on Mar 31, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume it was without apology or a retraction?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Mar 31, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would the apologize for something that never happened…

by Shield on Mar 31, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the toronto Sun that much of an upgrade over the star?

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by loser domi on Mar 31, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Lateral move.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Mar 31, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hack journalism is still one step up from recurring plagiarism, I’d say.

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say it’s a step down, and would recommend reading the National Post.

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by theninjagreg on Mar 31, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woo National Post… I actually only promote it because it’s free at my school.

by Shield on Mar 31, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find I just follow writers and not papers anymore because that’s who I follow on Twitter.

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by PPP on Apr 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how I roll.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 1, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

The Star has issues… the Sun IS an issue. Read the Post or something…

Let the Wookie win.

by Kenjamin on Apr 1, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am the 70th person to rec this post.

Holy balls.

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by JP Nikota on Mar 31, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

?

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by birky on Mar 31, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I saw this reply and instantly thought ‘Sens fan! I must make fun of him.’

But then I realised that you were being nice and decided to be polite.

So I’m going to say thanks for the moral support.

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by article1 on Mar 31, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know, i’m so conflicted!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Mar 31, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec #77

Toronto Star = epic fail.

Cox Bloc = full of win. :)

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by LeafBoy on Mar 31, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I read the original and remain astounded that it even got published. What has happened to journalistic standards?

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by rift valley on Mar 31, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Trumped by sales figures.

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by Bower Power on Mar 31, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how they sell anything with awful stories like that. I guess that’s why their subscriptions are down 33%.

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by rift valley on Mar 31, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They had to show a Red Wings fan in the article...

If it was a Montreal or Vancouver fan, I guess I could see that. They could even show an Ottawa fan if they were going for irony. Using a Red Wings fan to poke fun at the Leafs? That’s an abomination before God, man and nature. It’s both un-American and un-Canadian.

Friends don’t let friends become Wings fans. Seriously.

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by Paperwork Ninja on Mar 31, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

red wings

didn’t start winning cups till we left their division

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss the Norris Division.

St. Louis, Minnesota, Chicago, Toronto, and Shemp Detroit. What wasn’t there to love?

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by Paperwork Ninja on Apr 1, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked this story this morning in The Star. Made me feel good knowing they’ve done it before.

by The Muppet on Mar 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this was a peace offering or something, I’M STILL MAD

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by greensidetrap on Mar 31, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

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by Frag on Mar 31, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

83 recs so far, and you deserve every one of them.

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by AM18 on Mar 31, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

89, take it to 100!

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by PKSube on Apr 1, 2011 3:44 AM EDT reply actions  

sent a letter to the star.

so they can ignore it but whatever.

Earlier this week I read an article titled “Some Torontonians laugh at Leafs Nation”.

I can understand that not everyone loves the Leafs, even some people in the sports Department at your newspaper, but I find it hard to believe that there wasn’t a way to write this article that couldn’t be summed up as “haha Leafs fans are dumb”. Perhaps exploring why Torontonians are not Leafs fans (family history, etc…),but the lazy route was chosen and we ended up with this article, which in cluded the phrase “I hope they die in a plane crash”.

I think it was that fact that The Toronto Star included this line that made me rethink my newspaper reading habits.

An apology to the Players and staff of the Maple Leafs, and their families should be printed in your paper for such a boast. While it was not a staff writier who made the proclaimation, it was the writers and editors decision to leave it in the story that has put the onus on The Star to apologize publicly.

After reading this article, and adding it to the stack of others in my mind (The front page headline “The White Jays” from a few years ago is still top of the pile) i have decided not to read your paper anymore on-line or in print. i will turn down complimentary copies at coffee shops and on my bus ride home. i will not be reading Metro anymore since they use TorStar as their main news source.

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by elseldo on Apr 1, 2011 7:27 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Great e-mail

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by PPP on Apr 1, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes so much more sense when you see the star article. When i first read this, I wasn’t sure wtf was going on. Then read the star article and it all made sense.

Well done.

by RepressedOptimism on Apr 1, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks everyone

For all the recs and comments!

Since we joined in January we’ve had a great time here… and the Leafs have gone on a magical run. %&#( Ron Wilson, it’s Cox Bloc that needs to come back next year.

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by Godd Till on Apr 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Late to the party...

But this is freakin’ brilliant!!! Well played, Cox Bloc.

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by nucksandpucks on Apr 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

/slow applause

Beyond spectacular!

by blindfolded tank driver on Apr 1, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

95 theses recs.

And then I ruined it and made it 96. Sorry.

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by Doogie2K on Apr 2, 2011 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

REC #98

GET IT TO 100!!

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by leafsfan4life94 on Apr 2, 2011 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

a hunnert it is

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by haxen on Apr 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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