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by birky on Apr 10, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe 2010-2011 Toronto Maple Leafs season came to a disappointing end last night. A 4-1 loss, even in a game with nothing on the line, is not the best way to end the year. But for a team that worked and fought so hard to climb back into the playoff race in the second half, I don't think we should be too bummed. There's a lot to like about Toronto's performance over the past three months.
At the same time, there are also a lot of questions moving forward, especially in terms of personnel. The Leafs currently have more than the 50 SPCs allowed under the CBA, which means some expiring contracts simply won't be back in September. Players such as Mike Zigomanis, Aaron Voros, Joey Crabb, and Jean-Sebastien Giguere will likely be looking for new employment on July 1st. The Leafs continue to make the organization younger, and there simply aren't enough roster spots between the Leafs and Marlies for everyone. In addition to the players already added over the past week, others like Jesse Blacker and Jamie Devane will make the jump to the AHL next year as well. It's going to be a very interesting summer in Toronto.
Sunday's links after the jump...
Habs dump Leafs in season finale
The Globe & Mail recaps last night's game
MLHS has the bullet-point version
Leafs and Bozak making room for Colborne
James Mirtle discusses the Leafs blueprint for Joe Colborne
Colborne and Frattin make promising debuts
The Hockey News focuses on the performance of the rookies
Frattin, Colborne should not have been able to jump to the head of the line
Vintage Leaf Memories takes issue with the lack of love for Ryan Hamilton
Five for Fighting with some good stuff this morning
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PROGRESS!
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Apr 10, 2011 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Progress (minus last two games)
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by DoubleDion on Apr 10, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damien Cox wants to tell you how to think... Again
Another douchy article in the Star. It never ends…
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 7:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The highlight was his complaint that Burke hadn’t spent to the cap by adding salaries like Brad Boyes’ ($4m, 5 goals in 21 games for Buffalo). The fatal flaw in that remark being that we were about as good as can be expected of any team in the league anyway from the All-Star break to elimination.
Of course he’d be the one complaining now if we had done that that Burke had handcuffed us in the future by adding big contracts to make an unrealistic push this season.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Cox wrote a decent article on possible ways for the leafs to improve in Dec 2010. Burke is currently following Cox’s recommended “in-between” approach and now Cox pulls a 180 turn and he should have spent to cap.
A job well done article for what the leafs accomplished since the break and a what the next moves for the leafs would have been more constructive. The truth is he is a critic and saying Burke screwed up by doing this or not doing that gets more interest.
And if anything I have more respect for Burke this year when he said no playoffs = failure.
Damien
Cox writes like a deranged homeless man on crack.
He argues both sides day to day… he honestly makes no sense.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
His formula is actually simple: “See what Leafs are doing, argue opposite.”
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he today froths at the mouth
over how the Leafs fans should be ANGRY about how this team seems “happy” with their “progress”… as if they made none?
He also complains about misused cap space in the fact that they only brought in Lupul… like there were a tonne of available top players we missed out on.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
What got me the most was he was trying to argue the Leafs hadn’t made progress….based on the last three games of the season, when the team was already out of it. As if going 24-15-6 since the New Year meant nothing at all. Yep.
But, no, three games. Totally more relevant sample size. Shame Burke didn’t break the bank on some vets to get four games of playoff hockey like Montreal. THAT’D be progress. Yeah!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t read the article, but here’s what’s so stupid. During the three-month run, we were told it’s the same-old same-old late-season run and don’t read so much into it. The Leafs do this every year, after all. Now, people are using the THREE GAMES of garbage time after they were mathematically eliminated to prove a point?
two games of garbage time. the first of the three they lost in a shutout to the top team in the conference.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
shootout?
I don’t think it was a shutout.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that’s it.
my wife and i both have strep throat and the baby was up all night with congested sinuses. i’m full of spelling errors this weekend.
last night i tweeted that i predicted the leafs would finish 10th in the division. ugh.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch. Hope you guys get better soon :)
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I will never understand why people think that a GM should use cap space simply because it’s there. Even if there had been top players we missed out on, if they don’t make sense to tie up cap space on, why the hell waste it?
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
because it’s not an asset, according to the NHL, and if you use it as such it will cost you draft picks.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
So the NHL demands that every team spend to the very limit of what the salary cap allows? I’m not honestly familiar with the rules in regards to a cap floor, but I would assume teams are allowed to carry a reasonable amount of cap space.
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
oh other teams don’t have to, but the leafs do, its in the revenue sharing agreement
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s referring to the Kovalchuk thing, on which I totally side with the league. That contract was obviously structured so that he’d never play the last few years.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
or the frogren/tampa cap space deal
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, like I say I’m kinda unfamilar with the whole thing, but basically the league reserves the right to determine when a team is inappropriately using cap space as an asset?
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Does that apply to a team that simply doesn’t spend the space it has? I’m referring more to not spending the cap room a team has at a given point in time, rather than structuring deals or making trades designed at manipulating the system ie the Kovalchuk deal.
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a salary cap maximum (what is generally referred to as the salary cap) and a minimum. A team must be between those two numbers at the start of the season and throughout it. You are allowed to be 10% over in the offseason.
I believe the minimum is either 16 or 18 million below the max.
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Okay, the point I was initially making was that it seems to me a lot of people want teams to spend money simply for the sake of spending it, rather than ensuring that the cap space is used as effectively as possible under the circumstances. It was in response to Steve’s mention that Cox felt the Leafs misused cap space by only bringing in Lupul and how basically I feel that Cox is stupid for saying that, given that as Steve mentioned, who else were we supposed to use the cap space on?
Basically my stance is that if the team doesn’t have an optimal opportunity to spend the space it has and isn’t compelled to, then it shouldn’t. But Sergei’s response seemed to me to be that teams are compelled to spend it, which I thought was only true as regards staying above the cap floor, which I can’t imagine will ever be an issue for the Leafs.
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re correct, but that’s not at all what i was saying.
the leafs tried to take bad contracts from tampa as a favour to them, and it cost them a draft pick. why you can’t just transfer contracts makes no sense to me.
i love how burke has managed the cap this season. look at the assets he’s acquired and it still $20 mil below the cap for next year! awesome.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah okay, I must have misunderstood. I agree, I think Burke’s done a very solid job of managing the cap, while making a handful of moves that have improved the team going forward. Again, Cox saying otherwise is idiotic, but what else is new.
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 10, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
truth.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought we lost that fourth because we signed Frogren illegally or something
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah Frogren.. whatever happened to him?
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Right, I posted prematurely. Apologies sir
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you sir I’ll try not to mess up again sir.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what he said.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
She posted prematurely? Jee I hope she is okay.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s it.
you have to use cap space, but you can’t treat it as an asset.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you’re taking on salary dumps. Because then it’s an asset.
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not in the eyes of the nhl. the salary dump must be in the context of a “hockey deal”, when in truth, cap space is more important an asset than most draft picks or minor league players.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What deal has the NHL stopped on the grounds that it was a “salary dump”? The Brunnstrom and Lashoff deals, for example, were clearly salary dumps.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The Brunnstrom deal sent an enigmatic prospect back who is 3 years removed from being the top QMJHL player.
The Lashoff deal allowed us to drop two players.
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Both deals involved the Leafs agreeing to take on salary in order to free up an SPC slot. They’re pretty much the definition of salary dump.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope and nope.
Leafs took Andy Rogers, Olaf Kolzig and something else from the Lightning for nothing. NHL stepped in and made them move picks. I think deal was originally rejected until they threw a couple 4th rounders in. Total bs.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never heard that before. I’ve only ever heard of the deal including draft picks.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not how I remember it either. I thought basically the leafs took those shitty salaries with no intention of ever playing them in exchange for a 4th rounder….basically using cap space to buy picks. The league didn’t like it but couldn’t really do anything about it. Later, they took the 4th round pick away because of the Frogren contract fiasco, which was kind of BS and looked like the league simply finding a way to show their displeasure with the ‘cap space for picks’ moves.
I could be wrong though – I’m sick and my mind is muddled.
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yeah, technically the Leafs did violate the CBA/transfer agreement with the Frogren contract but the league let him play all year before they bounced the Leafs a draft pick, which happened mere days after the tampa trade, the optics hint towards the cap space thing
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the problem again? Did the Leafs give Frogren a bonus to buy himself out of his existing contract or something?
Either way, total BS. If you’re going to let ‘poor’ teams benefit from the richer teams via revenue sharing, then at least let the richer teams buy a draft pick every now and again.
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TSN has the Kolzig deal as:
Tampa Bay Lightning traded Olaf Kolzig, Jamie Heward, Andy Rogers and a 4th round selection in 2009 to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Richard Petiot.
Which is basically how I remember it. The Leafs took on a bit of salary from Tampa and in return got a 4th round pick and sent out a player they had no use for.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
basically, the Leafs paid him a signing bonus that covered his buyout clause which is against the rules.
The problem I have is that they grieved it and let things go all season before ruling definitively on it.
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The cap floor makes no sense. If a team that’s losing money is $3M from the cap floor, what is forcing them to spend $3M on player contracts going to do? Highly unlikely it shoots them to success and profitability; more likely it just makes them lose $3M more, and allows them to collect more via revenue sharing.
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a) it’s supposed to help with parity
But more importantly:
b) it helps ensure the players actually get their share of the revenue
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because spending more money will guarantee that your team is better…
Rangers throughout the 90s anyone?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Apr 10, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The relationship isn’t linear, but it’s not non-existent either. Who was the last team to make the Stanley Cup finals without being in the top 10 in the league in terms of salary?
Or perhaps more simply, how many of the top 16 teams in terms of salary this year are going to make the playoffs? Answer – somewhere between 11 and 12. So the playoffs will be made up about 70% of teams in the top half of spending, and abot 30% in the bottom half.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty sure you can go below the cap floor and your only real punishment is that you don’t qualify for revenue sharing, probably to prevent some teams from just pocketing richer teams charity
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes sense when you realize he's pro-Burke but Anti-MLSE and Anti-Leaf fans
So much for no bias in journalistic integrity.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
And he’s the one bitching about bias in reporting by other sources and blogs and whatnot.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the Leafs didn’t win the Stanley Cup this year, so the season was by definition a failure. Ergo, there was no good. I don’t know what specifically it is about the Leafs that make people lose all sense of perspective. In many other markets, a rebuilding team that improved from 29th to 20th, mostly on the basis of youthful players taking steps forwards, would count as progress. Here, it’s another “exasperating season” and more golf jokes, while Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary get free passes from the national media.
they all have their first round draft picks though! and we all know being shitty and drafting low for a long time is a sure fire way to win a cup
look how many Stanley cup banners are hanging in Ottawa and Columbus!
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the reason that one seems reasonable and it aligns with what Burke did is probably because Burke told him that’s what was going to happen.
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Ding ding ding.
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Oh that MSM...
From the Canadian Press recap at The Hockey News:
[Colborne] dished a long, high-risk pass to Kessel on the Maple Leaf’s only goal of the game in the first period.
I know the media watchdog stuff can get tiresome, but man, that’s not even close to what happened.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Apr 10, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
It probably went 3 feet.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It was almost a give-away actually.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
At first it looked like a broken play where he was taken off the puck- upon further review, Colborne made a small dish to Kessel.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It wasn’t even really a pass.
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Tonight we are Detroit Fans
If they beat Chicago in OT or SO tonight, then Chicago will face Vancouver in the 1st round, and we won’t have to worry about the Canadian media fawning over them and talking about how Canada needs to win a Cup.
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Either That
Or cheer for Detroit to win in any fashion, and for Dallas to lose in any fashion.
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Chicago and Dallas both have to lose tonight, but Chicago needs to lose in regulation, they have more ROW than LA, so if they get a point they move up to 7th.
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Good
Go Detroit, I really want to see Vancouver get their lunch handed to them again
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
From the perspective of someone who likes the Hawks, I’d much rather the Hawks play San Jose than Vancouver in the 1st round. I feel like the Sharks are ripe for choking, and…well…the Hawks going up against Niemi would be interesting.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m the complete opposite, I think SJ will do well this year…. but who knows, there’s a reason they have a reputation for choking….
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m more for the comedy of seeing Chicago clobber the Canucks again. The Canucks fans have to be traumatized by Chelsea Dagger by now.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda nervous around that first round match up, , Chicago is still not at peak and vancouver slaying that dragon would be a bad news boost for their egos
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Nay.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Chicago has just lost to Detroit in regulation. Now if Dallas loses, or wins in the Shootout, then Chicago will face Vancouver in the 1st round. Yahoo!
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First off I want chicago to not make it because it would be hilarious.
Second I called Vancouver Washington cup final back in September and Vancouver to win the cup and it would be cool to see.
Third, unlike most here, I have nothing against the Canucks in general and like the specific team they are icing right now.
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fucking hate Luongo, Burrows and Kessler
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t stand Luongo or Kesler. Got some love for Burrows though.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Burrows is the worst of the bunch, diving, bitching, being dirty
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya same, Kessler I don’t mind
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like him at all, partially for the olympics comments and partially for how over hyped he was by canucks fans, but then he played flat out insane this year so the latter is waining
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah… Luongo and Burrows I can’t stand so by default…
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t see him diving and bitching like the other two.
he plays with a nice edge to him too. like tucker but bigger and with a better shot.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The team’s never won anything, yet the fans are as snooty has Habs fans.
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the false rivalry built by their media
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s been quasi-successful I guess. not so much a rivalry, but now I just really hate Vancouver and their fans.
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yah, they are basically turning hatred for the city of toronto into hate for the Leafs
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yep. whatever it takes to get people besides vancouverites paying attention to them.
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i still remember that one article last year where they had a radio contest where the winner got to crush a car with toronto maple leafs logos painted on it, and the winner was a self proclaimed “senators and canucks fan”
and it was for some random mean nothing regular season game where the leafs were on a west coast road trip
can you imagine something like that ever happening in toronto for the canucks?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
senators and canucks fan?!!?!?!?!!??!?
that SCREAMS “all my parents could watch on HNIC on saturday nights was the leafs for years because they were the only team english canada cared about so I hate them”
elephant shell
you have no idea how often i hear that reasoning.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s toronto’s fault it has loads more history and influence than those other two cities. seriously wtf?
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no, it’s toronto’s fault that they were the only game on for however long before their own province got a team. also that it’s the biggest fanbase and CBC would be retarded to not air their games.
this is a reason to hate the team and ridicule it’s fans, apparently.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yea I guess I’m going back further than that, toronto even HAD a team because of it’s status as a city in comparison to the other two
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yeah. and somehow montreal escapes all this ridicule. didn’t they have to split air time with the leafs back in the day?
bullshit double standards just to hate on TO and the leafs.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you know it.
the lame “they’re on every saturday” excuses make me chuckle. I normally drop a patronizing, “come on!” or “you can’t be serious” and then drop some math on them. shuts them up quick.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never been exposed ot this personally. I don’t know any Canucks fans. So without that I have a team a country away with no rivalry (ie I hate the Sens and Montreal because of Rivalry), who I find a fun team to watch.
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My benefit is that all Flames fans hate Van, so out here there’s a lot of venom being spit that way.
If you cheer for Van at all, esp the Sedins, it severely pisses them off, which is fun.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
plus I like a lot of players on Dallas
and maybe if Richards wins a cup he won’t care about that “going to an immediate contender” and just want security so he signs with the Leafs for 4 mill a season for 6 years
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
please make it so.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody who signs Richards to a contract like that should be immediately put into the Hall of Fame.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight I am a Detroit fan because it would be hilarious if Chicago did not make the playoffs.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight I hate you.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What's more hilarious?
Chicago not making the playoffs a year after winning the Cup?
or
Chicago kicking Vancouver’s ass in the playoffs once again, with Chelsea Dagger over and over again.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dagger
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Apr 10, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Daggarin’? Like, Maja Laza?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be the Dagger
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Chicago
Is really looking dangerous right now and everything…
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It is quite close, but I trust that Vancouver will find a way to collapse against Dallas. I also believe that Chicago deserves this humiliation for their sacrilegious parade planning, Stanley Cup mural and overall bandwagonry. Also, although I don’t really like Vancouver, I don’t really hate any of their players, but I fucking hate Patrick Kane.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck patrick kane. at the leafs-hawks game in march I sat close enough to ask him if he wanted to split a cab home, my treat.
WE MISS YOU TOMAS
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I hold him 100% responsible for the recent mouthguard chewing trend, which annoys the hell out of me, I hope he loses all his teeth.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ALSO
What if Chicago shits their pants against Vancouver? Can you imagine the pompous “Vancouver defeats their demons” headlines?
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Vancouver fans ego would be so stupidly huge that their thick rimmed wayfarer sunglasses couldn’t fit over their pompous faces
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
terrfying
A sweep at the hands of Dallas would be nice and humbling.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Colborne might not have been great on the draw last night, but that’s a skill that can be improved with practice, so I’m not too worried. When he came over in the Kaberle deal, I remember hearing talk about how he was big but played soft, but I didn’t see that at all. He threw a couple of good body checks, but more importantly, he went to the front of the net all game long. Every time he was on the ice and the Leafs had the puck in the Montreal zone, he went right to the net. That’s the kind of play that could help open up some ice for Kessel, which is what the Leafs need on that line. He also made some pretty nice passes, and was good defensively as well.
As for Frattin, he played well too. I was even more impressed with his game when I found out that he only had about 2-3 hours of sleep the night before the game. He seemed to lose his legs a bit in the third period, which is understandable given the circumstances, but he got 2 or 3 really good scoring chances, and he seemed to work well with Kadri.
I don’t want to get too high on players after they play in one meaningless game, but it’s a lot of fun seeing all these young guys play together, thinking about what the Leafs might look like in 2-3 years. I’ve never been this optimistic about the Leafs’ long term future before.
One thing last night drove home for me, though, which I’ve been thinking for a while, is that we need to shore up our defence. Aulie is in over his head right now, playing too many minutes against competition that’s too tough. I was going to say that Gunnarson is in over his head too, but his Corsi and Zone Start numbers are actually among the best on the Leafs’ defence. I’m curious how much of that is based on how much of the year he played on the 3rd pairing though – have his numbers been worse since getting increased responsibilities? Anyway, I think we definitely need to add a defenceman who can eat up some minutes next year, preferably someone to play with Dion because I think the Schenn/Gunnar combo works pretty well for the most part.
Speaking on Colborne from my eyes as a Bruin fan I was sad to see him get traded but the chance that he was going to get playing time anytime soon was pretty far fetched seeing with the rediculous amounts of centers the Bruins have. He would have been behind Bergeron, Krejci, Seguin, Campbell, Kelly, Peverley and Savard (if he ever returns). I hope he plays well for you guys as hes a good kid with some serious skill. You guys will like him if he pans out.
by beachguy113 on Apr 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys will like a lot more than you already do himifwhen he pans out.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
he reminded me
of Andreychuk in front of the net… he just needs to skate more and use his size physically.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The biggest knock on him is that he has a tendency to be uninterested at times but I am not sure if thats just because hes so big that it looks like hes coasting more then he is. Hes got magic hands and I am sure the physical part will come once hes adjusted to the NHL game.
by beachguy113 on Apr 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. If he can keep his feet moving and not coast around like last night and play infront of the net like he did last night, he’ll open up the ice for Kessel or whoever very well.
I really liked the Kadri – Frattin combo though. Frattin was tossing bodies, holding the puck well and got some good chances.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
So I bought pre-season tickets to the Leafs/Sens game in Ottawa and they keep sending me things like this
Over the last two months, you have no doubt noticed a number of changes in the direction of your Ottawa Senators. Our focus for the future is to build an elite team based on drafting quality players who will complement a core of veterans that includes Daniel Alfredsson, Jason Spezza, Chris Phillips, Chris Neil, newly signed goaltender Craig Anderson. This process will allow us to create a winning team that can sustain success for many years.
But they’re not the 2007 Maple Leafs at all.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
Check out Dougies vest.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
He looks like Aladdin
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 10, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Best day of my life.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
For all the Subban love last night (kid is skilled I will begrudgingly admit this) Schenn looked so “poised” with the puck last night. There was one play in particular when he had two fore-checking Habs bearing down on him behind the net, he protected the puck and calmly skating out in front of the net and exited the zone. It was a nice smart play that went entirely unnoticed and something he could not have done in game 1.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
I give Schenn my silent improvement award for the year. He has has a couple hickups, but his over all game has improved leaps and bounds since even last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
the patience there was amazing. he just stood with the puck, but faked with his body twice – both guys were frozen.
It was poetry in motion.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I only saw the game in six but it looked like kadri-frattin were buzzing all night
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
They were, Kessel also came to play.
As disheartening as the last few games were I can understand that the intensity just wasn’t there. They played must win hockey for three months.
Only sad is that Grabbo didn’t get to 30.
Also Kessel should have had #33. That was a goal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it was definitely a goal, but of course the net cam was covered in water spray, which is like the first time I have ever seen that ever
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs’ forward corps was pretty good all night, but the defence had some pretty bad mis-steps, especially on special teams.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, Schenn looked bad on the 2nd gionta goal and the first was pretty weak, even though it was tipped
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The camera angle looking into the goal clearly showed white between the puck and the red line. They had enough to declare it a goal.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
they were easily the leafs best line. Naz’s swagger is back. this callup has been his coming out party; pencil him in for next year.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
about that… they were decent… but best line? They gave up quite a few chances.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
which leafs line was better last night? lupul and phil were good, but colborne didn’t wow.
they were the only line that could forecheck and sustain pressure consistently.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
MGK line was surprisingly quiet.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
other than a goal vs the caps, they’ve had a very quiet week.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
offensively yes, but they have been pretty good defensively
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Which was bound to happen after the season they’ve had. I’m not to worried about it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
far from worried. just made an observation.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know, was more stating it because I had brought it up.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
gotcha.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't only count production
they had the best all around game… despite not scoring they had solid chances.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What is this, some kind of goal scoring competition?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Listen
the team that controls the puck more and has more chances will produce more goals over time than the team that gives up odd man rushes and has the occasional chance.
If you would rather see end to end action and a losing team, then by all means enjoy that.
Personally I’d rather watch the team that dominates possession.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen
I love the line and was as impressed as anyone at their defensive play this year.
I said they had a quiet week. They put up one goal total over 3 games. Don’t know why you’re arguing with me, exactly.
Also, is the sarcasm block quote lost on you today, Steve?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
sarcasm
isn’t a block quote normally… otherwise a quote wouldn’t be distinguishable from sarcasm just via the block…
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
but just go with yes
if that helps.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Does
You’re a dick
ring a bell?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Frattin
surprised with his decent skating, Colborne didn’t move his feet enough at all… too much coasting from the big guy, but he went to the net well.
Overall the biggest problem was the Leafs D, and it was largely Phaneuf and Komisarek giving up breakaways that I noticed.
The number of times Montreal had a breakaway or 2 on 1 was absolutely fucking ridiculous. Our D gave up WAY too much last night.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
again, only watched the game in 6 but it occurs to me that Colborne might have “antropovitis” with his skating, He looks like he is just gliding around with zero effort, but is still always in play, and generally in the right area for the puck
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
no seriously
he was making no strides… and coasting… it wasn’t antropovitis… I know what that looks like.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
when he WAS skating
he moves quite fluidly… he’s a good skater… but he was coasting behind the play quite a bit… and he took long loping skates in big circles at the top of the defensive zone early on in the game.
He improved a bit as the game wore on… but I think he needs to improve his intensity on the ice a tad.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Frattin
had more jump to his game than Colborne. Colborne’s assist was a non-play… he dropped the puck to Kessel who went on an end to end rush…
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
the only reason I brought it up, was that on both kessel goals (yes both) he was “gliding” but was right up in play the whole time, and like i sad, game in 6 only
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
it wasn’t just those plays… it was all over the ice… I know he has a long stride… but he could move his feet more… I don’t see any reason why gliding is acceptable when you’re on D.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea he was more watching things and waiting to react, Frattin was the opposite.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
either way, I am excited about the potential of each player
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just happy we got Frattin signed
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
powerfulstridesthrusts while bent over
Happy?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Reimer made routine saves on those plays though.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't care
if Reimer made the saves though… the Defense was porous as tissue paper soaked in piss.
They allowed like 4 or 5 excellent chances right in front… we’re just lucky that Montreal can’t fucking score goals.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely, I was just making fun of the CBC crew.
But it does demonstrate how valuable Price and Thomas have been for their teams this season.
It boggles my mind that more people in the MSM can’t or won’t acknowledge this.
If you sub in either of their numbers the Leafs would look just as good as those two teams, if not better. Someone pythagorus that for me please.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why
I can’t understand the argument that “a goalie is not worth as much as your best forward or defenseman”.
A good goalie is the single most important player on your team.
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unless you are as stacked as Philly or Chicago last year or Detroit 4 years ago a goalie is everything
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
I don’t want to single out Steve, but I just don’t understand this kind of outlook and its common (from yesterday’s game day preview):
Goalies are important but they aren’t more important than your most important offensive or defensive players.
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I just noticed you said playerS as in plural. I guess that changes it.
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yes it kinda does
and If you get where my argument is coming from… I don’t think the average starter is worth a lot more than a top centre…
top players are top players no matter what position they play, but I don’t think you win anything by focusing on one area over another.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
for instance
I think someone like Lidstrom is worth a lot more to Detroit than Jimmy Howard… which sort of disproves your argument that the goalie is the most important.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you could also say
Chara is more important than Thomas… which sounds crazy on the surface, but they can replace Thomas with Rask, but who the hell do they replace Chara with?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
2 teams out of 30…
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but there are a LOT of teams that are where they are because of a goalie.
COUGH COUGH
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
these are the following teams that I would credit goaltending above anything:
Montreal, Buffalo… and that’s about it.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and Phoenix
ok that’s about all.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Colorado
last year…
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Toronto
this year…
so that’s 5 teams over 2 years? and one of them didn’t make the playoffs and none of them are actually that competitive.
Montreal last year wouldn’t even count because they had Halak AND Price…
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville? Penguins kind of since Crosby was out? I don’t know though, those are kind of borderline
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
100% Nashville
Quick has made LA very dangerous this year, Florida is in shambles without Vokoun, Rangers aren’t going anywhere without Lundqvist.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston definitely relies VERY heavily on Thomas, their defence isn’t much to be had.
Jersey last year with Brodeur? Atlanta with Pavelec this year? Florida neeeeeds Vokoun, Rangers haven’t been great w/o Lundqvist, Kipper has been a HUGE part of Calgary doing much, Bryz in PHX.
I guess you can make a case that most of those guys aren’t the MOST important players though.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow totally forgot Boston
What a joke that defence is.
by scrambles the death dealer on Apr 10, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I’m on team Bryz/Vokoun!!!!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
because
the teams with great goalies and not much else are not going to go anywhere in the playoffs.
Montreal and Boston don’t have enough players to get shit done… Boston on the back end and Montreal up front.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
But they are more important than any other individual player. They are by far the most important individual.
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I suppose
what I’m arguing about here is that you’re not acknowledging the effect of marginal goal improvements.
You need to look at the difference a single player will have by being above league average.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you have
a number 1 C, and you replace him with a call up from the minors, you’re going to lose probably 30-40 goals of production on the season.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
if you have a good starter
and you replace him with a call up goalie from the minors who gives you .890 SV%, how many extra goals are you going to give up on the season? If it’s more than 30-40 then I agree with you… but otherwise? They’re equivalent.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
30 shots/game*60 games of a starter.
0.920 of a good starter to 0.890 difference is 0.03
0.03*30*60=54 goals
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problem
you wouldn’t play the replacement player in 60 games… the backup would get more starts.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
so it's probably
closer to 40 goals…. assuming your backup is slightly above replacement level.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Gustavsson
would get more starts… he has an .898 sv% for his career.
That’d be .022*30*60 = 39.6 goals.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay 40 goals. but losing your number 1 center would not cost you that much.
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really?
You don’t think the difference in Grabovski to the likes of Colborne would be a net of around 40 goals overall on the basis of goals + assists?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Colborne
would probably have around 10 goals and 25 points… Grabovski is sitting at 29 and 58.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That's
19 goals off the stick, and a difference of 14 assists…. which adds up to 33 points… so yeah not 40 goals, but it’s still pretty damn important.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
and if you're arguing
.920 goalies? Then you’re arguing the likes of Sidney Crosby not Grabovski… so yeah it’s probably closer to 40 goals.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me just make sure. Are you really saying that having one elite forward is more important than having one elite goaltender?
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are you arguing against my argument?
or are you trying to play with the wording? because if you want to argue against my argument do so.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
My argument is not whether we should sign someone or not. Its just a simple statement. The single most important player is a great goalie. It is not specific to any situation.
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ok
well I am not sure how you’re valuing that… I’m giving you a numerical basis… you need to prove the point to support it.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
the lowest GC
number for a player of the ilk I’m talking here… would be the likes of say… Mikael Backlund (9 G, 24 Pts, 72 GP) and he has a GC number of 9… but is he even replacement level?
Tom Pyatt and Adam Mair had GC numbers of 1.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
like
if the leafs replaced Grabovski internally from Bozak and say… Brent/Boyce moving up… and then called up another checker… then it’s quite possible the difference would be on the level of grabovski’s 24 GC for a nobody’s GC of 1 or 2.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have the time to discuss this any more so I’ll leave it on this. I apologize I can’t respond to more comments afterwards.
If you take out the top 3 goalies (so you aren’t thrown off by someone playing ridiculous) by S% over the last 5 years you get a goalie at ~0.9236 (the fourth G by S% was 0.924, 0.924 and 0.923).
If we assume replacement level goaltending is 0.900 and that a starting goalie plays 60 games than the GA difference is:
0.024*60*30=43.2
If you look at GC for the number 4 spot over the last 3 years you have a 36, 38. 35. So roughly 36.5
The goalie is worth more.
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but you aren't
replacing a .9236 starter with a .900 replacement level goalie… you’re replacing him with a backup goalie.
Also I don’t agree with going with a .9236 SV%.
The median sv% since 2006-07 for goalies who played over 45 games in the NHL in one season (all 136 of them) was only .913. That’s a more reasonable number to go with as a “starting” goalie SV%.
The median sv% for goalies since 2006-07 who have played between 10 and 20 games in an NHL season is .903.
So you’re getting a difference from backup to starter of around .010…
That means you’ll see 0.010*60*30=18 goals.
Really NOT that significant.
If you want to examine this in reality, take a look at seasons like oh… Thomas out Rask in last year… or Vokoun when he was replaced by Mason due to injury 4 years ago (and Mason posted a better SV%).
Or imagine things like Lehtonen being replaced by Raycroft (.915 to .910).. I mean it’s not as significant a drop as you might expect.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
really the issue arises
if you haven’t got a viable backup… in which case the effects of goaltending are magnified.
This is all about depth at ANY position. If losing one player means your production or level of play drops off the face of the earth? then that’s a problem… goalie, D man, or top line forwards. You just have to be able to replace their production effectively.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My argument wasn’t back up to starter. Your arguing something else. I compared the 4th best skater in the league to the 4th best goalie.
HOnestly though I am tired of this discussion.
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ok
just agree to disagree then… you think goalies are more important than I do… that’s fine.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the difference
between a .917 goalie and an .898 goalie is only 0.019
0.019*30*60 = 34.2 goals… that’s a lot closer to the Grabovski – Colborne comparison…
so yeah… not as important as people make it out to be.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
we pay Grabo
$2.9 mill in cap hit… why should we fork over $6 mill for a .916 goalie again?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
But thats the problem. An AHL call up does not go to the 1st line. He goes to the 3rd or 4th and pushes other people up.
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so?
the backup gets more games… it’s the same effect.
I’m talking overall loss in production.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If you think GVT is anything close to reality then 40 goals is basically Gretzky level production. It gets spread around more than you’re letting on. You can just say “Grabbo 60 points, Colborne 25 points, ergo 35 goal difference”.
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by The '67 Sound on Apr 10, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ok fair enough
I was kind of aware of that, but I think there’s exaggeration on the goaltending difference also… 25 goals is probably more appropriate, but a goalie switch of average starter to average back up only nets an 18 goal difference.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is more than the difference of most skaters.
If we added a goalie giving us 0.915 this year we are a playoff team. Same in 06/07 07/08 and 08/09. No other single player could have done that for us.
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also
none of the goalies you’re talking about give you a .920 SV%.
Bryzgalov is a career .916, and Vokoun is a career is a career .917… so the difference is smaller than you’re arguing.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
So is the goals created. By far. The most goals created in the league belongs to Corey Perry at 39.
A typical 1C is sitting at about 24
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goals created
for the average replacement level player would be around 0 though? I haven’t looked at the stat… but a replacement level player isn’t going to get you many GC.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
what if your back up is a brain damaged gustavsson or a groin damaged giguer?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
if you have a true number one goalie and you replace him with vesa toskala you’re probably going to gain 100 goals against on the season
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
right
but Vesa Toskala was below replacement, and shouldn’t have been in the NHL so you can’t think of it like that.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
you replace the player
with REPLACEMENT level… hence the term “replacement level”
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
also
if you DO think of it that way… Reimer was the “replacement” for Giguere but he certainly wasn’t replacement level.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
an AHL call up really isnt replacement level for a 1C either
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. You don’t replace a 1C with an ahl call up. You make an ahl call up 4C and move everyone else up. No single player has as much effect on a team as a great goalie.
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A great goalie has won a team more championships/olympics/cups/etc than a great skater.
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who are these
great goalies that won championships on their own?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember Roy
doing it once.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
other than that
since expansion finished? Not many.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
every cup winner
has more than just a great goalie… in fact they often have a LOT more than a great goalie.
You could also often argue that the goalie looks better because of the players in front of him.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ward.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ward + Staal + Brind’Amour’s faceoffs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Cam Ward 05-06 Regular season: .882
Cam Ward 05-06 Post season: .920
What the hell?
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Cam Ward
is a weird goalie… his SV% has gotten better every year he’s been in the NHL (except last year where it was stable at .916)
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ok right
but if you follow this logic, you’re still losing the goals… from a 1C to a 4C… that ’s a problem.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
think of it this way
for the Leafs… Mikhail Grabovski goes down and he’s replaced with Joe Colborne… what’s the difference in production you’d see?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I kind of disagree with the Boston comment (but that could be my hommerism)….not sure how a team that is currently 9th in goals for does not have enough players to get shit done. Chances are they will move up a spot or two after todays game.
by beachguy113 on Apr 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Frattin looked good, Kadri looked good, Colborne looked… meh, I saw one very good shift from him but that’s all I remember. Kessel was aiming for the throat, sucks that the goal was called back.
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How ridiculous was that highlight that Healy showed of Frattin? It was a nothing play and Healy was all over him. Even Hughson and Simpson were confused.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Proves time and time again he and milbury should not be allowed to be broadcast to a wide audience.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That might be the smartest comment I have ever read.
by beachguy113 on Apr 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
the play that really impressed me was the one where he drove the net after dancing behind the habs defense and took that one touch shot that almost had price at the five hole
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
he had two or three solid scoring chances.
also, fuck carey price, right in his stupid, ugly face.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Florida fires their head coach as well
that’s 2 down so far. Wonder if Lemaire will return again.
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Almost a $2.8M expected cap bump
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NHLPA tells agents preliminary cap # for 2011-12 is projected at $62.2M.
Holy shit are we ever going to have a ton of cap room
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well there is that extra cap room burkie needs for Richards
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Gives NYR the cap room it needs too. I still don`t think BB can outbid the Sath-meister.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
leafs have about 25 mil in cap space the rangers 21
could be interesting, and by interesting i mean terrifying
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Too soon?
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($4.250m) / Brad Richards ($7.800m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.350m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($2.900m) / Clarke MacArthur ($3.000m)
Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Tyler Bozak ($1.750m) / Colby Armstrong ($3.000m)
Mike Brown ($0.736m) / Tim Brent ($0.600m) / Darryl Boyce ($0.600m)
Colton Orr ($1.000m) / Luca Caputi ($0.850m)
DEFENSEMEN
Keith Aulie ($0.733m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($1.200m) / Luke Schenn ($3.500m)
Matt Lashoff ($0.650m) / Mike Komisarek ($4.500m)
/ Jeff Finger ($3.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.350m) / James Reimer ($1.500m)
BUYOUTS: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,390,000; BONUSES: $1,000,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,810,000
And yes I realize Finger is there, I gave Lebda the Finger treatment to be replaced with Finger and/or random overpaid UFA dman. Still 1.8M to spare.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. This should put our post-resign cap space around the 7-9 mil marker, which makes me think two things immediately:
Enough for a 6.6M contract!
Also…enough for Brad Richards’ contract…
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Burke will be sign a PMD and size/special teams talent to bottom 6 through UFA.
He will leave cap space open for Feb trade deadline and salary dumps.
Bottom six signing? A list of players who are capable of playing at least one game in the bottom six next year:
Armstrong
Brent
Bozak
Boyce
Brown
Kadri
Frattin
Zigomanis
Orr
Rosehill
Honestly, when our third line is shaping up to be one of Kadri-Bozak-Armstrong and Lupul-Bozak-Armstrong, and our fourth line plays about 5 minutes per night – and spends equal time in the penalty box – I’ll be pissed if we’re burning cap on the bottom six instead of “elite” talent.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke will go after more size in the bottom six (replace Boyce with a bigger PK specialist). And maybe Brent too. The bottom 6 are cheap but sometimes Burke overspends here.
why the hell would he do that? there is no logical reason, the bottom six does not now, nor has it ever all season needed more “size”
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
not a single player in the leafs bottom 6 right now is under 6 feet tall, all but kadri and brent are over 190lbs
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
right, because he added so much massive size to the bottom 6 last year, one player, and now there is a log jam in the bottom 6
im calling YOU illogical, not Burke
Burke filled a hole the leafs had last year, this year they do not have that hole, stop using one time examples and say its a pattern
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Burke says a lot of things, you might want to check your facts
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
show me one quote JUST ONE, where Burke says "we are going to add size to our bottom six
no half assed “we need more bite (no mention of size)” or “they arnt big enough to play the style i want”
i want words like WILL and DEFINITELY and GUARANTEED in that bad boy
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lol….you know how silly you are sounding there. I think someone needs needs a kitten break.
a kitten.
how silly I am sounding? really?
you are stating things as facts that are not facts
please support your “facts” with actual facts
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You don’t need size in forwards on the PK. You need speed. The defensemen are clearing the front of the net, the forwards are jumping between the half-boards and the point player. Quickly. A good PP won’t have the puck tied up in the boards, so a good PK doesn’t need to worry about winning those battles.
Please stop saying “Burke will go,” as if it’s destined to happen. Because it doesn’t make sense.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why I say “Burke will go” – where do you draw your conclusions from?
We need to upgrade at center and we need some size," Burke says. "Size. I’d like to have more bite. I think Mike Brown delivered everything we asked him to. I think Colby Armstrong was exactly what we thought we were getting.
“But I think we need some more bite.”
With the exception of Joffrey Lupul and Nikolai Kulemin, Burke says, the Top 6 is too small. In fact: “Even our Bottom 6 is small to play the way I like to play.”
I don’t buy it. I mean, yeah, burke says it, but I have a policy of treating his words with skepticism. Bozak in the bottom six should add all we need to a third line, and all we need to the fourth.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I read the article too
That’s the impression I get too. Thanks jeffgm
by Jack rides ducks on Apr 10, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
no. Last summer was Burke’s time to upgrade the bottom six. This is the summer to upgrade the top line.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
unflagged, go team Richards
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Acceptable
But then I’d have to predict the crazy trade that would bring that in.
Go team “somehow get a #1C that doesn’t involve waiting and hoping one of ours develops into one in a few years”
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
go team no big ass contracts
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
After we re-sign our UFAs we'll have over 10M in cap room
Do you see Burke just letting that sit there? I don’t… it’s getting used, i’d just rather it get used on a high-end talent.
Or an expiring salary dump which includes prospects or picks.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Err
after we resign our RFAs i mean.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you see Burke just letting that sit there?
Nope. But I think he looks for D in free agency, not a #1 center
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Oh for sure he gets a D. I think he can get both. Either through July 1 or a trade.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he looks to add a 3-4 guy via free agency and a center through trade
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It concerns me, though, that Burke said he wants to pick twice. Those first rounders are our best non-roster assets.
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by Bower Power on Apr 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Those 2 first rounders aren't even really that valuable.
He’ll use up one trying to move up or acquire a mid-name guy.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he said he wants to move up, but not use a ton of assets to do so
to me that means he will use a couple later rounders and maybe a prospect he isnt keen on to move 4-5 spots
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The draft is so crazy though, like 50 little trades happen throughout the day.
Let’s just say i’ll be surprised if we draft those 2 first rounders in the exact spot we’re supposed to.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yah, im sure Burke has a few players in mind that he wants, and will attempt to move the picks, if necessary to try and attain them
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or offer sheet the shit out of Stamkos, Doughty, Parise, Weber, and Yandle and see which one bites.
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha.
Yes. I like the shotgun method.
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scattergun theory is my favourite theory
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
what about an RFA?
Leafs 3 picks in the top 40 of this years draft. If Burke winds up keeping all of those picks, it makes me wonder if he would chase an RFA this summer. And there are all kinds of high end RFAs this year
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Heh, see above. OFFER SHEET MANIA
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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt be surprised if he goes the Kessel route and trades for rfa rights
I doubt he offersheets though
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine a scenario in which Burke offersheets, unless it’s as leverage in negotiations like the Kessel deal.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the tier below the obviously high-end ones
is pretty good
http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php?year_id=2011&team_id=-1&position_id=-1&fa_type_id=1
Bogosian, Turris, Ladd, Callahan, Dubinsky, Josh Bailey, Voracek, Bergland, Brandon Sutter (this one would be sweeeeeeeeeet but won’t happen)
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i will take all of the above please
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Man lots of good ones
Cogliano, Pacioretti (i know, even with Habs stink), Bergfors, Bobby Butler, Nathan Gerbe, Stalock (SJ’s goalie prospect, looks really good, but we don’t need any more goalie prospects right now), Stalberg (lol), Grabner, Wayne Simmonds….
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is very likely what happens.
by Draglikepull on Apr 10, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm..
Atlanta may have some trouble finding an owner that keeps the team local. Could be possible that Winnipeg gets two kicks at the can for an NHL team.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-thrashers/thrashers-down-to-last-904393.html
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
The possibility of the sale of all three properties, the most likely scenario for the Thrashers to remain in Atlanta, has been described as "one in a million" and "one percent."
So, the odds are either one in a million, or one in a hundred. People who use but don’t understand percentages make me sad.
well if its 2 different people offering their opinion on chances it makes sense
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
the journalist should have used or instead of and… you can’t have the odds be both.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Breakaways
Team was so ‘gone fishing’ last night, but to see Schenn hustle back to break up plays and Kadri even ding the same once is nice. Maybe Kadri has bought into the team, and will be a welcome force at both ends of the ice. Kadri, Grabs, Kulemin, Schenn, Aulie, Optimus, McKegg, Nicholls, Olen, Frattin…. no big stars, but draft a star and put him at the head of that group and watch out!
Posted this last night but I don't care. Some Matt Frattin highlights.
I’m mowing the air Naz!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
This is so awesome. How does it not even have one rec yet??
When Frattin becomes a stud for us and leads us in a deep playoff run, they’re going to hand out toy lawnmowers at the ACC to throw on the ice when he snipes.
WE MISS YOU TOMAS
not to steal the show too much
but I was right on that street the day they were doing all that nonsense. Crazy stuff.
No shit, that’s awesome. That story actually reminds me of my university days, throwing plates and cups from the cafeteria out of our residence window onto the street and bus stop below. Good times. It’s amazing what alcohol plus your first real taste of ‘freedom’ will cause you to do.
WE MISS YOU TOMAS
yeah it was pretty crazy
it’s a pretty decent party school, mainly because there is absolutely nothing to do in Grand Forks, so some of the hockey players can get a little crazy. Especially when they come right from high school or only have minimal experience in juniors
How confusing was it to see a flying lawnmower?
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I actually didn't see it flying
I just heard the mayhem and we ran outside and saw a bunch of stuff on their lawn and in the street. But it was pretty nuts.
So you’re saying they just wanted to trim the lawn.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
That’s awesome.
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Teemu Selanne first career fighting major! only took 1,364 NHL games…
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
I think he just wanted to get in a fight before he called it quits and saw a chance
but the way he’s playing I hope he doesn’t cash in at the end of the season
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Still crazy that his best season was his rookie season.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much, what an insane year, that record will never be touched
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Apr 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
76 mother fucking goals. I wonder what they were expecting out of him after that…
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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 10, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Carolina has chance to make playoffs proceeds to shit the bed
Reaction from local paper:
So ended an unusual, memorable season, albeit one with a crushing end. It began in Finland, where the Canes twice beat the Minnesota Wild. The Hurricanes hosted the NHL All-Star Game, and Staal was an All-Star captain.
Can you imagine the fallout if that was the Leafs?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
HURR DURR 1967 MAPLE LAFFS ZOMG HAHAHAH DERRRRP
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really in the mood to re-hash the season just yet, today will be spent laying in bed watching movies. But I just wanted to drop in and say,
Fuck the Habs.
Good day everyone.
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It was tough to tell given that I was watching the game on a semi-grainy online feed
but I was pretty happy with how Frattin played, and I thought he played a lot better in his own zone than I was expecting. As for Colborne, I watched him quite a bit in college and that’s just basically how he is: a glider. He’s not lazy, and he’s actually deceptively quick on his skates (I think) but he just has a long loping stride when he skates.
also I am a Sioux fan so I am semi hopping on the Leafs bandwagon cause of Frattin.
Welcome aboard!
Frattin definitely impressed me last night. Looking forward to seeing more of him.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 10, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Colborne is exactly that, deceptively fast. He definitely needs to work on some areas of his game, but he’s not going to ever look like a guy who’s “hustling” hard. Like Chara or Thornton, they never really look like they’re skating hard because they’re so long.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
not moving
one’s legs is different from having a loping stride. Colborne was coasting a lot last night.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Was at the Marlies game yesterday, they played well in terms of offense (both teams mailed it in on D). D’Amigo and McKegg both looked pretty good out there (McKegg was great in the corners and along the boards a few times where I was sitting), but Gardiner impressed me the most. He is a great skater and looked amazing on the blue line with the puck in terms of making smart plays and with his lateral movement.
well Chicago lost in regulation, A Dallas regulation win against minnesota tonight and chicago misses playoffs..lol
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by Future_considerations on Apr 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
I’m torn. I’d love to see Chi back in teh playoffs, esp against Van, but really don’t want minnesota to beat dallas and knock the leafs down a spot in the overall standings.
expecting a dallas win, and hoping that it’s in regulation so it helps the leafs!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re certainly keeping it interesting up to the very last game of the season.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love for Chicago to miss the playoffs (personal reasons – good friends who are leaf-hating hawks fans), and a big game from Dallas – especially Richards and Robidas – could help me win my keeper league head-to-head final.
Too much riding on this for me, Dallas is doomed.
WE MISS YOU TOMAS
a shame for a team with 95 points not to make it in.. on the plus side
chelsea dagger! vancouver is doomed.
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by Future_considerations on Apr 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah this is what I wanted anyway…I think chicago is a much tougher test for vancouver anyway
elephant shell
agreed dallas would have not lasted long.
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by Future_considerations on Apr 10, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the MSM. I hate that common fans read their crap and treat it like gospel. I’m tired of listening to people at work muppeting their stupid opinions. This season was amazing progress. I was proud of this team. Once the last of the old guard left this bunch of guys took ownership of the team and went on a great run. We defacto had 3 30 goal scorers the first time since we had Mike freakin Gartner and this bunch of nicotine smelling tweed jacket wearing rats can’t even say one good thing. Simmons’ article was even worse than Cox’s. Mirtle and Menon are the only guys I can read everyone else is a moron.
It was great cheering for this team with you guys next year. The offseason and the draft will be real fun to analyze now. We have a great future ahead of us. Since we last made the playoffs this team is by far the best potential one we’ve had coming into a new season. I predict playoffs now for next season and I’m taking bets.
thanks for making another season fun with your analysis, your happiness, your sadness, your undying love for the Leafs.
GO LEAFS GO !!
October 25, 1966. Thank you Lord Kelvin
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Jays lose 3-1
Gahhh
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
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Anaheim can take that tainted series victory, as well as Bob Davidson’s blinders, hell, even Bob Davidson himself, shine it up real nice, and shove it straight up their candy asses.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
See you next year.
Great final run by your Leafs guys. Honestly I hoped they would make it in, and give a top team a real wear down.
If Reimer can stay consistent as he has been, and playing a whole season, the Leafs should have no probs making it in.
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but don't forget...
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by Kevin van Steendelaar on Apr 10, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks, I hope so. Have fun in the playoffs… but not too much fun :)
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ZERO FUN
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
NO FUN ALLOWED
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to be nice :P
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Not necessary when they bleed bleu blanc et rouge
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
but he was being nice! But sure, ahem…
HOPE YOU GET SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND!
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FIRST ROUND EXIT
clap clap clapclapclap
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 10, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
SHAMELESS PLUG !!!
HEY CHECK OUT MY FANPOST ON POST SEASON PREDICTIONS !!!!
LOL .. …
Pretty lame and Shameless.. but hey.. Thats Me … SHAMELESS !!!
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3 down
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Tom Gulitti
Jacques Lemaire announces he will not return to coach the Devils next season.
I wonder if NJ can survive another new coach…
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Here is your second top 10 pick Mr.Chiarelli!!.gif
:(
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Too bad it’s an 8 player draft.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, just had this brought to my attention…
https://www.sportschirps.com/detail.php?id=81
Anybody know the guy that runs this site?
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HE STOLE YOUR DESIGN
The Muhammad Aulie one is kinda cool…
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s awfully gutty of him.. Are lots of those designs ‘borrowed’ ? Or just the Optimus Reim one?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, he straight up ripped it off… most of the stuff on there is trash and I’m sure anything that looks good is something they ripped off.
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Who buys a shirt that says “Sean Avery Is a Beauty”.
That site sucks. No one loves Carcillo either.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at some of the shitty sites they’re associated with.
https://www.sportschirps.com/affiliates.php
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Sending out a warning- Facebook, Twitter etc..
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Pop a Rt on this bitch – http://twitter.com/So_Truculent/status/57249043591610369 or http://twitter.com/So_Truculent/status/57249735911813120
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Or on mine. Which is Bower Power’s, only with a spelling correction. :D.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man, that’s going to bother me now. What did I misspell?
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
@sportschrips
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Go figure. The most important word to spell right, and I screwed it up. Correction posted here: http://twitter.com/So_Truculent/status/57251184406310912
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Hahahaha good call.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to..
Lawyer up.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 10, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Layeth the smacketh down on him and drop a cease & desist on his candy ass.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he's on twitter
you can follow him at @sportschirps i recommend you send him some tweets. if he stoled your design because hes taking credit for it.
by newfiecutie on Apr 10, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I did and it’s all sorted now, he removed the design
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Did he now...?
https://www.sportschirps.com/contest.php
Plus this bullshit.:
Read the contest page www.sportschirps.com getting abit ridic, pucking better supply some papers or its going back up.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh...
Everyone already knows you buy Optimus Reim shirts from puckinghilarious. Just as I did. (Mine should be coming in this week some time…I think. lol.)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
oh shit, I see it now. he does not want to go there.
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From that infringing twat @sportschirps
haha PPP what a joke site that is, they are using MLSE- is that a copy write? #Losers
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
proof that guy is a moron? he spelled it “copy write”
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Chemmy loves Peter Karmanos.
Going to guess – 14 years old.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 10, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s throwing out juvenile insults now.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
sportschirps Sportschirps.com
Hey happiergilmore, were on like donkey kong. Can you wear that cool santa hat? haha #geeksquad
I like the hat… I had finished cooking my first turkey and was in the middle of my first carve. Fuck SportsChirps, he’s just a dick.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave him som hell, and then nothing. Guess he got scared of the (unofficial) leader of the Leafs Legion.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He couldn’t handle the heat.
He best not forget we’re lurking the far depths of the inter web.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And if you look at the picture and go “Hey that turkey is burned!”, well that would be the layer of BACON coating.
#Swag.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Newfie, im looking into adding chick xxl shirts, i’ll let you know when they arrive.
Hey happiergilmore, were on like donkey kong. Can you wear that cool santa hat? haha #geeksquad
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all. What a guy, eh?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we sure
he’s even a “guy”? He could just be pretty much a kid.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We can leave it at “insignificant matter”.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
YA!! I’M CHALLENGING HIM TO AN INTERNET FIGHT. WAIT TILL HE SEES HOW BIG I SAY MY DAD IS, HE’LL WET HIS PANTS [I imagine so, at least].
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are the Odds Makers.. I got my money on Happiergilmore..
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by FLYERROB on Apr 10, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HEY YO OVERLORDS
Fire up the Playoff Pick ’Em tomorrow.
What’s the format looking like? Is it game by game? Or series?
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Round by round
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
I'm giving Twitter another go
by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 10, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Chill dawg. Chill. It’ll be up tomorrow. It’s rigged so you personally cannot win, but you should play anyways.
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Whateva yo, as long as I’m not paying you can rig it to make Jared feel good about his shortcomings. (I assume it’s to help Jared feel better, right?)
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlies win 6-0 in their season finale. Marcel Mueller had 5 pts (3g, 2a) and Greg McKegg scored his first AHL tally. Not bad for his first career AHL game.
Wow. Mueller is my pick for dark horse next season. He’s had a pretty good season down in the A. Transitioning from the DEL to North America couldn’t have been easy.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He was
amazingly streaky… almost Kessel like.
He had 0 points in his first 9 games.
Then he had 3 points in 3 games.
Then he went another 5 games without a point.
Then he goes on a tear where he had 22 points in in 29 games… quite solid despite a few bumps in the road.
Then he went quiet again for 8 games before getting injured.
Then he comes back from injury and nets 5 goals and 8 points in the last 3 games of the season.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
if you look at that 29 game stretch
and the two 3 game hot streaks… that’s 33 points in 35 games.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if he can improve
on the disappearing act, that would go a long way to making him an NHL player.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i was at this game today.
it’s worth noting that the heat were playing a goalie in his first AHL game, and that some of their roster were callups.
with that said, marlies were pretty dominant everywhere. i could NOT believe colborne was playing after playing last night!
also – gardiner is smooth. very smooth.
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The Optimus Reim design has been removed from the site that ripped it off. Thanks twitter!
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll ask around, can’t be THAT many Sam Parker’s in Markham, right?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I love ABOOT Canada … Small enough to find a guy by the name of Sam Parker in Markham Ontario.
Try finding a Robert Wilson In Upper Darby and you will find probably 5 guys. (me and my dad Included.)
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What about Bobert Wilson?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobert ? LOL
What the fudge is a BOBERT ?
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Rob = Robert
Bob = Bobert
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
His name was Robert Wilson
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ronert Wilson?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhh funny... Just think ..
in 48 Hours .. I will be in Barbados on this ship and in a room like this !!!!
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“Was” .. damn.. When did I pass and who did my Eulogy already ?
I could joke and say that its not May so my FLYERS are not Dead yet Either
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no love for Fight Club?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Fight Club references always get a rec’n from me
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
much appreciated.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Same
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I just wish someone would beat the snot out of these two
Do you believe they are getting paid fat dollar for being total Douchebags ?
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So is Sean Avery…
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
to be fair
I think a guy did try to beat the snot out of snookie in the first season… he got fired from his job over it apparently.
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She’s been punched out twice.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, this:
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird
that Sports Chirps would defend some idiot that submitted the design as his own.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, great...
he’s from my neck of the woods.
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Markham
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dunno dude, jury’s still out on you.
;)
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
so how well do you know the town? care to embark on a vanadalism crusade on behalf of Mrs Puckizin?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest...
I’m not much of a vandal. I like to mete out justice within the law. ;)
by Marc Pilgrim on Apr 10, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm. okay, then. we have a bit of a personal vendetta vs. markham since this past christmas.
it’s kind of a long story, if you weren’t involved in our disclosure back then.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Stamkos >:(
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Things they also have in common
Stamkos, Stumpy, Skinner… their names all start with S!
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And they’re all from Markham!
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yes I realized
that’s why I said ALSO have in common… the Markham thing was obvious based on the thread and the fact that Stamkos played for the Waxers… Thomas was a Marlie, and I have no real idea who Skinner played for before Barrie.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't Spezza
also a Markham kid?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No I believe Mississuaga.
Look at that, Steve/Stumpy, Skinner and Stamkos/Steven all start with S! Weird.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
ope
nevermind… Mississauga… him and Stajan… I mix up places that start with M in southern Ontario apparently.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Markham is another one.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Manatoulin
Island?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Marmora
Meeford? wherever…
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Millhaven
hmm where else?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Madoc
Mount Forest
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ah yes
Madoc… sister metropolis to Marmora.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
same highway turnoff sign.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
same small town smell.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit
how did we forget Muskoka?
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
beat you by less than one minute
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Mactier.
fave stop on my way up the 400/69. it’s just fun to say.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
never stopped there.
nor will I!… more because I have no reason to… and on mine it says identical timing for Muskoka.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, same minute stamp but mine was up before yours was on my screen. visual record.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a delay on when comments post on other’s screens.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
do you even watch the comments?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone’s QualiComp and Corsi Rel ratings take a HUGE hit when threaded with Burtch
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but i have better Post Starts
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.. Well.. +/- !!!
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Melonville
or was that just SCTV?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it matter?
it’s going on the list.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
as it should.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Muskoka!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, we know. but it fits well in the dialogue, with it’s strong ties to the leafs.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Milton
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
MANSFIELD!
That’s where I’m from :)
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
where the hell is that?
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s basically an intersection – Airport Rd. and County Road 17 (Sideroad 10). It’s on the way up to Collingwood.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Downey is from Mansfield.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
oh okay. sorry, never heard of it. not my neck of the woods though, anyway.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 11, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s absolutely tiny.. It’s in a township that has 3000 people. You drive through the intersection of Airport and 17 and you’ve gone through it.
Definitely not much to see there, a corner store, a restaurant, a beer store and a gas station. And a few houses.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
that was my point… I feel like there’s a lag in here.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
In where? Markham? or Mississuaga?
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
in the
internets… or your head? whichever… j.k.
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by Steve Burtch on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
loljk
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat’s a shame. My dad’s a doctor in Markham, doesn’t really rave about it.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 11 Parkers listed in Markham on 411.ca
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Bingo, our suspect has a name-o.
@b1rky @puckingfunny @mlse No need. He is Scott Cundell – 905 870 5277 #whois (he has a LinkedIn profile too)
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
After much consultation with a bevy of NHL coaches/pro scouts, I’ve filled out my NHL Awards ballot. My winners are as follows:
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Hart-Perry. Norris-Weber. Calder-Skinner. Selke-Kesler. Byng-St. Louis. Don’t recall a year where it was so difficult making decisions.
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
Perry for the Hart?
that’s so not logical to me. I know he was the only guy to get 50, but the Ducks have some depth on offense.
Daniel doesn’t deserve it if he’s playing with Henrik… who won it last year… unfortunately for him.
I almost want to say Thomas… but I know he’s getting the Vezina.
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When Perry was out of the lineup for the Ducks, they were something like 2-7-3. When Getzlaf was out but Perry still in, they were something like 9-3-1
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by happiergilmore on Apr 10, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Perry has been the popular media consensus for a few weeks now.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 10, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, it seems like Thomas didn’t have enough GP to qualify for Hart. Sub-60 GP seems to be disqualifying, regardless of the SVP.
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by Bower Power on Apr 11, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
What about defensemen? Lidstrom has NEVER won a Hart. Orr won it in 73 and since, only Pronger has won it in 2000. 8 D-men have won it a total of 13 times, 9/13 were between 1930-1945, Orr won it three years in a row (71-73) and Pronger in 2000. That’s it.
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The Hart really seems to be a forward’s trophy. It’s a shame, but box car stats make for sexy awards ceremonies.
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by Bower Power on Apr 11, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I would make the Argument for Bobrovsky for the Calder Trophy. Sure I know Maple Leaf Fans are not going to agree with me and tell me that Reimer should win it but.. I can back up my argument….
1. Bobrovsky has NEVER EVER played on North American Ice prior to September 2010 – He has always played on Russian or European Large Ice his whole Career.
2. He has NEVER EVER played in the AHL, OHL, QMJHL, or ECHL ever and went straight from a Crappy Russian team to a FLYERS NHL team.
3. Some would argue that BOB has benefited from the FLYERS Defense but .. we went an entire Season without a shutout and Pronger has missed allot of games and the team has had allot of Defensive Breakdowns and BOB has bailed them out.
4. His first Major Start was against the Penguins in Pittsburgh on the road against Crosby
….
Reimer, Holtby, Crawford, and Neuvirth have all played on North American Ice and North American Hockey as opposed to European Hockey and some have played briefly in the NHL this season and not an entire Season Unlike Bobrovsky.
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Sure I know Maple Leaf Fans are not going to agree with me and tell me that Reimer should win it but..
No, Skinner should win it. Here’s how I back up my argument. Combine that with the bulk of his time being spent on Tuomo Ruutu and Eric Cole, and it’s really, really hard to take it away from Skinner.
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Ruutu and Cole aren’t bad players…
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
No, no, and I didn’t mean to imply that they are. But it’s not like Skinner’s riding Staal’s coattails. It’s more about the difference between Skinner and Couture – because T and Cole aren’t exactly Heatley and Clowe.
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by Bower Power on Apr 11, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Summer up here:
My list :
Skinner
……
…..
….
….
…..
…..
Couture
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Reimer [pretty much] single handedly [almost] dragged Toronto from the basement to the playoffs. I would pick him over Bob for that reason, plus Reimer has better numbers on a worse team. But Bob definitely deserves consideration. I don’t think either should win it to be honest.
My list :
Skinner
……
…..
….
….
…..
…..
Couture
Carlson
Subban
Reimer
Bob
That’s just off the top of my head
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by happiergilmore on Apr 11, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Neither
Bob or Reimer.
Skinner by a million miles.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
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