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Oh, sure, I could kick things off with an article about the Leafs, but really, they're not yesterday's big news. Hopefully, everyone was able to fit in a little bit of playoff action last night, because there were some good games on. The Pens and Lighting, as well as the Rangers and Capitals, went to double OT, the Coyotes were swept, and Anaheim pulled away from what was a tight game to win 6-3.

To change things up a bit, I've included all the recaps from each team's SBN page, rather than those of the Globe, Star, or National Post. If you find that you don't read them, let me know, because it's double the number of links to make, and if it's not worth it, I won't bother anymore.

Of course, there are plenty of other links that aren't recaps from all the usual suspects, so join me after the jump for some hockey talk.

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Leafs Links:

The summertime wish list for the Maple Leafs? Calling Andrew Ladd
The latest from Michael Langlois.

Toronto Maple Leafs Legends: Sid Smith
Joe Pelletier with the writeup.

SBN Game Recaps:

The Real Deal James Neal Scores the Game-Winner
The Pittsburgh Penguins pulled out a win in double-overtime against the Tampa Bay Lightning in Game 5 to take a 3-1 series lead. Recap from Pensburgh.

Recap: Rangers Collapse on 3-0 Lead, Lose in Double OT
Postgame recap of the Rangers 4-3 Double OT loss over at Blueshirt Banter.

ECQF Game 4 recap - Raw Charge
Meredith Quails with the story.

ECQF Game 4: Ryan Miller brilliant again
Broad St. Hockey laments the loss and the refereeing.

Red Wings Sweep the Coyotes--Red Wings 6, Coyotes 3
From Winging It In Motown.

Recap: Caps 4, Rangers 3 (OT)
Japer's Rink has a writeup with plenty of analysis and comments. Careful though, this thread has plenty of .gifs and may take a while to load.

The Red Wings Dash the Coyotes Postseason Hopes Again
Game recap from Carl Putnam, over at Five For Howling. Show some support for these fans that have been through the worst.

Ducks 6, Predators 3: Oof
Chris Burton with his take on the loss over at On The Forecheck.

Buffalo Answers Call Again
Die By The Blade offers their recap of Game Four between the Sabres and Flyers.

Open Gameday Recap Thread Ducks @ Predators
Anaheim Calling doesn't have much in the way of analysis of this game, but I'm including this one for the sake of consistency.

Other Hockey Links:

Bettman: NHL remains committed to Phoenix
NHL commissioner expresses hope Coyotes deal can still get done. James Mirtle with the story.

Gillis, Yzerman, Poile named finalists for NHL GM award
Vancouver's Mike Gillis, Nashville's David Poile and Tampa Bay's Steve Yzerman are the three finalists for the 2010-11 NHL General Manager of the Year Award.

Was Corey Perry more valuable in 2010-11 than Previous Seasons?
David Johnson over at Hockey Analysis takes a look at a few numbers.

Anybody know where the Faceoff Dot is?
Hawerchuk has noticed some strange discrepancies around the league.

Offensive zone entries: a new stat to track
User Eric T. from Broad Street Hockey talks a bit about his study at Behind the Net.

QMJHL fines Patrick Roy
Remparts head coach and GM fined for saying rival GM has ‘brain the size of a pea’. Always the consummate professional.

Campbell explains ruling on no Torres discipline
"This hit meets none of the criteria that would subject Torres to supplemental discipline, including an application of Rule 48: He did not charge his opponent or leave his feet to deliver this check. He did not deliver an elbow or extended forearm and this hit was not 'late'."

The NHL's Goal Horns, In Order
Not much to explain, here. Put together by Victoria Johnson at The Awl.

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I didn't see the Flyers game

Was the reffing really as bad as it sounds or is it just the Flyers fans are a little bitter

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Richards did elbow Kaleta square in the chops, all on purpose like, but Kaleta sold it like it was water in the desert

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

everyone (bobby mac) says

that it should’ve just been a 2 min as all Richards really did was bring his elbow up when Kaleta tried to elbow him… its not like Richards skated at him with force then put his elbow into his head

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if he was doing a sell job there he has a major history of neck injuries.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Diving can hurt your neck.

/joking

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

it looked like a sell job to me…
Maybe cause Kaleta is like Carcillo in my books until I see the x-ray myself I think they are embellishing

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carcillo

He is a completely clean player

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes me laugh every time, but if I recall correctly Mike Ribeiro did the exact same thing in a game against us before

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor PHX

They never stood a chance.

Hate Detroit all you want, but hot damn do you have to respect them.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m all for Detroit laying the smack down on Vancouver.
“Mr Luongo meet Mr Franzen”

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This can’t happen till the conference finals (1st and 3rd). But that would be a great series.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

However

I predicted (if they can make it through), SJ to beat Detroit. I think SJ offense can light up, Mr. Mediocre (Howard).

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really depends how Howard handles the pressure. After this season, I have visions of Osgoode, the sequel.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish they didn’t have to make the conf finals for that to happen, argh. What a series that would be.

by purplish on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

No hate really, just lots of (begrudging) respect for Detroit.

And remember, if they can go from 20 years of ineptitude to 20 years of dominance, there’s still hope for us.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

:D

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

My father has serious Detroit “Dead Things” hatred, but I just can’t get into it with them being in a different conference now…

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apart from Bertuzzi who can you hate? It’s more jealousy than anything

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk

he emotionally scars other players which is clearly pure evil

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

/Checks roster.

Screw Lidstrom for being such a good leader?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk is clearly using magic.

Seriously, that goal the other night was fucking stupid. It wasn’t even the between-the-legs bit that freaks me out, it was the way he chipped it past Yandle. Watch it again, I can’t understand how the puck goes in the direction that it actually does. YOU CAN"T EXPLAIN THAT!

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Russian magic. Thats why Grabs and Kule need to practice with him again this summer.

Grabs learn kill pineapple by moar goal score

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk may be the best player in the NHL…. IMO, its definatley between him and Sid

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk is more fluid and polished, but Sid has more raw talent.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea for sure. They way Datsyuk stalks his prey is amazing, he is a hunter out there

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean ‘stocks’.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s doing it wrong.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

:|

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing one could possibly say is that Datsyuk has better hands than Crosby but it’s hard to be sure because their playing styles are just different. Datsyuk beats guys 1 on 1 by stickhandling around them almost lackadaisically, while Sid is just a monster who uses all his physical strengths and instinct to go wherever he wants on the ice with the puck.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby

is the strongest player in the NHL pound for pound IMO.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s your opinion.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol.

This always makes me smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bNOp2TEKaY

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol alfredsson….. so washed up

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to say it:

that hit was dirty, even as a Leafs fan I don’t like that

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged. amazing hit

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if that’s Neil on Sundin?

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or how about Exelby on Sundin?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPifDAomzQ

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed really hard when I saw that hit

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lol’d at Kilger going after the WRONG guy. Haha. Cornwall’s finest fireman.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

worst part of this video? Sundin out on the ice with Chad Kilger and Mariusz Czercawski…

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at that game and got a “CHAD CHAD CHAD” chant started in our section

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Worst thing about Sundin's years as a Leaf

management was too fucking stupid to find someone half decent to play on his wing. Grr.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

mogilny and roberts were magic

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man do I ever miss Roberts

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You and me both man, you and me both.

Burke’s biggest failure was not claiming Roberts off of waivers.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember whether they played together outside of the PP because they were both centers weren’t they?

It was a long time ago

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mogilny was a winger.

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mogilny’s a LW

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did put up good numbers for a few years but he was ooooold

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sundin wasn’t exactly a rookie either.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, that line was old as balls in general. Would have been nice to pick up a younger winger

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was 32, 33 and 34 when he played for the leafs. would you not sign datsyuk for 3 years now because he’s 32?

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a tad exagerrated

He had some goood players on his wings. Stumpy, Mogilny, Nolan, and Clark would argue with you

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.. the counterpoint is that all those guys were past their peak, but that’s not to say that they were useless. The Quinn Era Leafs were always near the top in scoring goals. High-octane offense + great goaltending is a recipe for winning (not to mention exciting) hockey.

by Papa Squid on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sundin had the best chemistry with Stumpy and Roberts I’d argue. Never seemed to completely click with Mogilny

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except on the powerplay. That cross ice backdoor pass to Mats was money

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our powerplay was momentarily scary, when we had Sundin, Mogilny, Roberts, Leetch, and McCabe.

Sigh.

Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.

by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

event he second unit was decent with reichel, tucker, nolan, renberg combo with kaberle klee

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a while there the crosscrease pass to Tucker was deadly too.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Sundin-Mogilny-Roberts line was awesome. Apart from maybe 1992-1994, the 2001-2004 Leafs were likely the best post-expansion Leafs teams assembled.

Damn, I miss that.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Apr 21, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

dirty? no because it was at the time legal
dangerous and malicious?
yes, yes it was

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Alfredsson have recurring concussion problems from it?

Nope, so it’s just hilarious when I look back on it now

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, but im not going to call it a “good” hit because it isnt
I wont say i didn’t enjoy it though

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

St.Louis would have to be in that convo as well, for amidget that guy is pretty strong

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nathan Gerbe, dude’s 5’6 and can play in the bigs.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s so fuckin small and light that you hit him and he just bounces 6 feet away

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is a picture of gerbe standing next to myers out there somewhere that is just comical

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like you standing next to your father?

Bazinga.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

5’9 to 6’3 isnt near as comical as 5’4 to 6’8

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for ruining my (shitty) joke.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s really not THAT short. 5’9".

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the NHL, that’s definitely undersized. Average height in the NHL is 6’1 1/3"

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by AM18 on Apr 21, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but he’s probably the best player in the league at USING his strength. I always have to remind myself that he’s only 5’11", 200lbs. On the ice to me he looks bigger than Ovechkin who is 6’3" 230lbs.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Dats over Sid any day

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’d be wrong.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re probably right. I’ll still take Datsyuk though, I just don’t like Crosby in general.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

er….well now…that’s intersting

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Datsyuk is amazing but Crosby is on another tier

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Generational Talent vs Elite.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say they’re necessarily on different tiers. I’d put them as the top 2 players in the NHL for sure. I think Datsyuk is who Crosby will be at age 30.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but between now and then crosby will have 5 or so years at a level above where datsyuk has ever been

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or he could be Lindros 2.0. Who knows?

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby doesn’t play the type of hockey Lindros used to.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he meant that concussions will ruin his career.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

lots of NHL players have come back from single concussions without missing a step, and the pens are going to insure they don’t rush him back, he is their meal ticket

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no sense rushing him back for one year when they need to think 10 years down the road.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was making reference to the concussions, which I assume is what would come to the mind of most people when you mention Lindros. Kind of sad, if you think about it really. He’s the poster boy of concussions

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

poster boy for multiple concussions and poor medical management

Rule #20

by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness they learned from their mistakes, which is why Marc Savard is now enjoying a rich full career as a key member of the Boston Bruins.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a good thing the Penguins are handling the Bolts just fine. If they were down 3-1 or tied something tells me Crosby would be back.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team depth, how does it work?!

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Helps that Fleury is playing well.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s more a combination of Fleury playing well and Stamkos doing his best Joe Thornton impersonation

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to Oct-January Stamkos?
/looks at shooting % during those months.
Oh

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the record, the same thing would’ve happened to Crosby if he didn’t get injured.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well yes, but I think he would have hit 50 goals easily.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

James Neal for Goligoski helps.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still mad at that.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kovalev for a bag of pucks looks pretty good right now as well.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

except Neal

hasn’t been doing much away from Richards… but when he gets Crosby oooo boy watch out

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

and the product of his playing style.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No love for Zetterberg? He’s just as good as Datsyuk.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone point and laugh at the incorrect man from North Carolina.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I read it as,

No love for Zetterberg Higgins? He’s just as good as Datsyuk

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Man those Dallas jerseys were awful

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Did you see the look on Boyd Devereaux’s dumb face on the bench?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHhmGkGhf8w

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg doesn’t score highlight reel goals? Come on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5B-txJ6vVo

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you a used car salesman?

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying Zetterberg is better, i’m saying he’s equivalent.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is an incorrect statement.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

You two should solve this on the battlefield of stats or youtubery.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Over the last 8 years here is Z's PPG and Datsyuk's

.56, .8
.7, .91
1.1, 1.16
1.08, 1.1
1.23, 1.18 (Season where Dats had hand in 48 of 92 Z points)
.95, 1.2
.95, .88 (Missed 26 games with broken hand)
1, 1.05

Z is close, but not equivalent.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goals per game

Z:
.27 .25 .51 .52 .57 .40 .31 .30 average = .39

D:
.19 .40 .37 .34 .38 .40 .34 .41 average = .35

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about playoffs boys?

And anecdotally I would say Datsyuk is better Defensively. Can you guys prove one or the other is better?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Selke trophies for Datsyuk – 3
For Zetterberg – 0

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty good argument. Your response Birky?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Conn Smythe trophies for Zetterberg -1
For Datsyuk – 0

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

In that playoffs, 27 points for Zetterberg, 23 for Dasyuk. A difference of 3 goals and 1 assist.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic. I’m in the Datsyuk camp

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

It clearly showed.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t argue with the Selke trophies, but some of their stats show they are equals. Zetterberg has averaged more TOI per game than Datsyuk 3 of the last 4 years. Their zone shift numbers are practically identical. They both take about an equal number of ES Def FO, and both are over 55% for the last 4 years.

How about QualComp?
Zetterberg has had the higher QualComp, Corsi Rel QOC, and Corsi QOC each of the past four seasons, save for 08/09 when Datsyuk had a higher Corsi QOC.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the numbers @ behind the net suggest Zetterberg is relied upon defensively just as much as Dastyuk by the Detroit coaching staff

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you even watch the games?

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Offensively there is no difference in their career production. Zetterberg can play all three forward positions and there are few better defensive forwards in the NHL than him.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately for your case one of them is Datsyuk.

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by Chemmy on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup, datsyuk drives a good hunk of zetterbergs production

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, not really

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOWY time.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg’s 92 point season (07-08) – Datsyuk had the goal or an assist on 48 of those points.

Since that season they’ve been split up playing C on the 1st and 2nd lines.

This season, Datsyuk only had a hand in 24 of Zetterberg’s 80 points.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk missed ~25 games with a broken hand though.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since that season they’ve been split up playing C on the 1st and 2nd lines.

2009-10 Z played 74 games, Datsyuk 80 games. Datsyuk only had a hand in 16 of Z’s 70 points.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Notsureifserious.jpeg

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

laffo

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by Chemmy on Apr 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, Zetterberg is a poor man’s Crosby to me. I don’t think there’s anything Zetterberg can do on the ice that Datsyuk can’t do better.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s okay, i guess. But I mean he’s a 7th round pick so trading him for a 1st would be good asset management.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg is the Kurri to Datsyuk’s Gretzky
good player, but not the same level

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, Zetterberg is a top flight NHL player, one of the best. But he ain’t no Datsyuk. He’s like a better Patrice Bergeron.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg is the Curry to Datsyuk’s Rice

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg is the Zetterberg to Datsyuk’s Datsyuk.

Wait hold on.

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by Chemmy on Apr 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t put my stalk in that.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

BCWW

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s lots of places you’d put your stalk, this is not one.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention almost a decade younger. Datsyuk very well may be the best player who is not generational

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

that sums it up pretty well

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really think that on forwards you have Ovechkin and Crosby as generational and Stamkos and Malkin fighting to be.

Behind that I think Datsyuk leads the pack with maybe Getzlaf, Thornton, Heater (a few years ago), Kovy and I am sure I am missing plenty.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sedins………………..

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

really really good players, but i’d say they took too long to reach that to be generational…so far
if they keep up this level of play for another 4+ years? sure

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I’m saying they’re pushing for generational- which is basically what you just said too

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re talking the second tier than I fully agree. They slipped my mind.

Thats also why I put

am sure I am missing plenty.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping Malkin comes back strong next year, when he’s playing well he’s just as dominant as Crosby.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

he really doesn’t get enough credit playing behind the most marketable player in the world

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

His poor English and creepy face probably don’t help

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

good ol malkin face

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like the biggest pedo in the world.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

And his really bad discipline. He takes a ton of dumb penalties when he’s frustrated.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No. Sid is flat out the best hockey player in the world.

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s crazy talk.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

So so wrong

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit it's too big

That’s what she said.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Took the words right out of my mouth

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not the only thing he takes out of your mouth on a regular basis I’m guessing…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, you didn’t.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey BOZAK!!!!

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

A poor man’s Scott Gomez.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol Habs.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, so Datsyuk, in an injury season, was the third highest P/60 player in the NHL but is far superior than any of those guys when it comes to the defensive side of the game.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk is 32. Crosby is 23.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok…………

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaaaaaaand I guess this constitutes as a reply fail. Yikes.

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His defensive game is mind blowing, his positioning with his body and his stick is second to none

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk’s interviews are also infinitely more entertaining compared to Crosby

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell does that have to do with how he is on the ice?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better question – who finds hockey interviews entertaining?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

People who listen to pavel datsyuk interviews, obviously. They’re amazing.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you ever watch the grabovski/Kulemin press conference? it is pure uncut gold

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know why they dont interview them together more often.
I laughed. Hard.

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I want Grabs to have a radio show

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Leafs TV introduces the “Grab a Lemin” weekly podcast!

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:D And we should sign Bryz just so he could be a regular on the show (or have his own show)

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

.

And its not CBA-breaking when LeaftsTV give him a 4 million/year contract for the show

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suck on that Bettman.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it shouldn’t but that series has me re-thinking my Team Bryz membership.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did I not know of this before?
Anyone have a link?

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by Leafer87 on Apr 21, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Majority of them are junk but some of them (especially the ones from Russian players) are comedy gold

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love the guys that fake not being able to speak English to avoid certain questions.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Crosby

In an injury season was the highest P/60 player in the NHL by almost one full point. Also it looks like Datsyuk might’ve been 4th… Stamkos and him are neck and neck.

Datsyuk might be better defensively but no on in the NHL can compare to Crosby and puck control. Who needs to play defense when you can keep the puck pinned deep in the other teams zone.

As well, Crosby is very underrated defensively.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to judge using this graph since I’m assuming this is only for this season and Sid had an unreal first half and was a few games removed (if I remember correctly) on a 20+ game point streak. We don’t really know if he could’ve kept that pace up throughout the season. A graph using their entire career wouldn’t be an accurate measure of skill either as Datsyuk didn’t begin putting up points until after the lockout. Also, Frank J. Selke would like to argue that points aren’t everything

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not contesting that. Although some are more wrong than others.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Datsyuk is 32. Crosby is 23. And Crosby is better… Maybe even gets better.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure if his head unscrambles.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine Datsyuk and Crosby on the same line. Their CORSI would be ridonkulous.

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

and then put ovie on the other wing, he could just do slow loops around the top of the slot and get 70 one timer goals a year

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez, why dont they just put all the best players on one team and see what happens? Oh they already did that.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

What? No Mike Green?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? No Steven Stamkos?

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

they need him and st. louis on the 2nd line with rick nash

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I think you mean RICK NASH!!!!1

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? No Mike Fisher?

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What? No Mike Fisher?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

in columbus

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In Columbus

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, we are stacked!

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by Leafer87 on Apr 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

just imagine that team with the best goalie.

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey – I hated Detroit when both they and the Leafs sucked. It doesn’t change because the Red Wings have talented players that anyone would love to have on their team.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t hate them because I am too young for the rivalry. Its because of hte conferences.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fair. Honestly, it was just because my town was split down the middle between Leafs and Red Wings fans, with a few annoying Habs fans stuck in the middle.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That, and everyone’s second team was Gretzky… I mean, Edmonton.

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From Brantford?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize there were Detroit fans up there.

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Yeah – strangely, a large camp of them, at least at the schools I went to.

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Their fans. Not the Joe Lou faithful – the fans who have no idea what you’re talking about when you joke about the “Dead Wings” era, the fans that think everyone should just find a Lidstrom/Datsyuk, the fans that expect to win the Cup every year, and if they don’t, there was something wrong with hockey that year.

The Wings are plagued by the Yankees’ version of Hockey fans. It’s easy to like the Wings.

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I knew Detroit would win, but wow, what a demo-job. PHX going 0-5 in the first period of game 1 on the PP was probably something they might want to re-think.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Japer’s Rink was going to explode last night with calls for Boudreau’s head before it exploded with elation and gif files.That was a pretty nice comeback by the Caps and I actually saw it coming based on the way they were playing

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

But really, Boudreau isn’t a particularly good coach. They continue to fail to screen Lundqvist, and they won that game because Gaborik screwed up, not because of their own play.

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

TOI for Anaheim game

I noticed this half way through the Second, but the TOI for that game was a little unique.

The top TWO TOI leaders were both forwards-Perry and Getzlaf at 26:49 and 23:19 respectiviely-with Viznovski and Fowler at 3 and 4 with 22:12 and 21:30. More than 4 minutes LESS than Perry.

Based on this one game they have zero faith in their fourth line (Ruutu at 5:41 and Parros at 2:10). This’ll be hard for them if they keep this pattern up and try to go deep.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Ruutu also tried to kill Erat so maybe he got his line benched for a while. Not sure though

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

McMillan (who I think is on the 4th line) was the only one who got any minutes last night

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

McMillan had a two point game and may have moved up a line or been given extra PP time or something. Again, not sure, but if I was an NHL coach I’d try to play George Parros as little as possible too

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see the need to have a guy like that on your roster. Just transplant his moustache onto a better player.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Guys like Parros and Orr shouldn’t play in this league anymore. There should still be fighting, but I think that even the guys who drop the gloves a lot need to know how to play well enough to not be a liability when they’re on the ice. Mike Brown is a good example.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even Jay Rosehill is pretty good as far as tough guys go, much better than Colton Orr at least

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehh. He’s not terrible, but he is a little dirty and still IMHO unnecessary.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is

but I don’t mind dirty to an extent, and I don’t get the “oh shit rosehill is on the ice against their second line” feeling with him like I do with Colton Orr. I mean, things like tackling Leighton and punching guys and somehow scoring on a breakaway on Brodeur are cool but when your foot speed is somewhere between “I have no feet” and “permanently encased in concrete,” you probably need a new line of work

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

100% agree. I am tired of enforcers… As much as I hate Ruutu at least he can agitate and play the game well enough for 10 minutes a night. There is just no point in having a guy like Parros or Orr (except for their awesome moustaches).

I would much rather have a guy like Sjostrom (though he had a pretty piss-poo season) on the 4th line.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

HOLD ON
You say you have had enough of enforcers but say justify Ruutu?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I still hate Ruutu. Just admitting that he can at least play hockey better than some others.

I’ll repeat though. I hate the dirty bastard.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give me a break. Ruutu is a piece of shit. He isn’t a good hockey player. He has one purpose, to be a dirty cheap bastard. 2 weeks ago you went on about how much you look back and were disgusted by Tucker and you say this?
Yikes

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again your missing my point. I hate the guy. Think he’s dirty as hell.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was confused. Ignore my previous comments.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there should be a rule

If you play like than 5 minutes any given game you HAVE to be a healthy scratch the next game…

Barring injury of course

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ruutu plays 6 minutes he’s not a real hockey player.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, I was combining the two Ruutu’s in my head. Ignore everything I said previously.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Tuomo Ruutu is pretty good at hockey. Jaarko, not so much

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Though adding him into the lineup does add some bite to your lineup.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

For 6 minutes a night!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add some bite to your lineup

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’ll happen. I’m not sure which is which, Jarrko is the terrible one, right? The “evil twin” so to speak.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I knew that the Carolina one was more talented. But for some reason I was thinking that the Ottawa/Anaheim one had SOME skill. Clearly I was mistaken.

I was thinking he played 10-12 minutes a night, played a checking role occasionally and put up 3rd line points… Don’t even know why.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well because one would think that a team would not waste a roster spot on someone like that, and yet here we are.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

@ Leafer1984

Yes I was completely wrong and my comments definitely deserved that Yikes. My mistake.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know.

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. Well they are completely retracted. :p

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

The ATOI isn’t actually that bad. It has Perry leading with 24:20 and Beauch in number 23:38, but with 4 GP that one game could have skewed it alot.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are awesome right?

We’re looking for a video of Kimmo Timonen spearing Nathan Gerbe at the end of the game yesterday, and i can’t exactly search youtube from work…. :)

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Gimme a minute.

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Can’t find it :(. Try the full recap?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I looked around as well but i couldn’t find anything outside of text accounts.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give it a few hours. If it was really bad one of the sports shows will show it today.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the national broadcast didn’t show it only people in Buffalo saw it.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was on TSN2

and TSN during NYR/WASH intermissions. So at the very least Canada will have seen it

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Thats good. That means it will be up on youtube eventually.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw it on the Buffalo broadcast…

wasn’t that bad.

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by Future_considerations on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can see why Timonen was mad.

Gerbe took a nice run at him after the final wistle so…

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He tried to throw him and the puck across the blue line, with some success.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your mom?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

His mom.

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Yo momma is…ahh fuck that..

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by Future_considerations on Apr 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh flashbacks!

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on relocation:

I’ m definitly in the “Winnipeg is a stupid idea” camp, but I think a few years down the road, with a new arena, Quebec City could actually be a cool place to have a team.
It will never be a big time franchise like Montreal, but if you have a solid ownership group willing to maybe lose a little money in the lean years (which, lets face it, is the what the NHL needs for most of its teams).

It’s got proximity to Montreal and the Northeastern USA, and is also a very beautiful city, so I can see people making the trip to catch their team play the Nordiques.

It’s cold, but Minnesota is cold. It’s definitly a much better place than Winnipeg. If a new Nordiques team can market themselves as Quebec’s team (the province not the city), and be owned by, say, Quebecor, then I think they could be successful (for an NHL franchise at least).

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Winnipeg may be nostalgic but from a business perspective, its literally a terrible idea.

QC is a slightly better idea, but really the Northwest is actually the best bet (Or Houston)

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are there any decently populated American cities close to the QC?

They can draw from the maritimes for weekends, but not weekdays.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hartford I guess but they didn’t do well last time. Otherwise I can’t think of any that could support a team

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle would be a great idea

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

they have stadium issues, see super sonics

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stilll would like to see Seattle get a team in the next decade or so (assuming they could clear it up eventually)

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I gathered from what I’ve read. But it would be interesting if they could find someone willing to fund an arena, I think it would be a good market

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, and it would be nice to see vancouver get a real rival other than chicago

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Calgary was and Van were rivals?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought everyone hated Vancouver?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

in the way that the leafs and sens are rivals (longer history though), at least that is what i gather from my flames fan friend

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. Thats a real rivalry IMHO then.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Often, it is the playoffs that make true rivalries. There might be a rivalry between Ottawa and Toronto without all those series in the early 2000s… but it is definitely stronger for it.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree no FA is gona wanna go play for Winnepeg and the team will struggle.

Shane doan there captain and a canadien already said he dosent wanna go to winnipeg?

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looked devastated during the on ice interview last night, I feel bad for the guy

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He apparently raises horses. Also, Shane Doan is a fantastic human being and if the team moves to Winnipeg is support trying to get Doan for the Leafs. Seriously, what he did for the team staff during the lockout just helps me keep my faith in humanity.

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also he created DoanFace

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

My favourite part is that apparently the staff members didn’t even know it was him. That is truly incredible.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it became public a few years after.

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by AM18 on Apr 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be a grammer nazi and all

but its their captain not there, and damnit man Canadian not canadien- capitalize that shit and are you a habs fan? only excuse for spelling the name of the country wrong… although there is no excuse for being a habs fan so your boned…

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Forget the there/their. Its a message board.

But the canadien thing is unacceptable.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks grammar Nazi.

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Bazinga

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

People who write “grammer” not “grammar” do not deserve to live.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other than Kelsey Grammer. But only just.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap son

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by intp on Apr 21, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can you chirp someone for grammar when you’re not capitalizing words to start sentences yourself?

and I think it’s “you’re boned” as in “you are boned”. not “your boned”

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Your boned” is a little too personal for a hockey blog.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys – are we throwing stones in glass houses? Because I’m so their!

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

to be clear, I never chirp grammar. never ever. i like not capitalizing things too much. especially since it bugs PPP.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

BAD GRAMMAR NO PUNCTUATION MAKE PPP ANGRY

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

MAKE GRABBO KILL PINEAPPLE

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PINED APPLE MUST DIE REGARDLESS OF ANGER QUOTA

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by intp on Apr 21, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont put much stalk in grammar and spellin

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love Google Chrome, it comes with spell-check all stalked up and ready to fix your grammatical errors

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

All browsers do, except Internet Explorer, but Speckie can fix that for you.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not going to put much stalk in what you’re saying until I see it for myself.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well done.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo friend.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give

It was the ‘canadien’ thing that threw me for a loop. I knew I shouldn’t of gone for the over kill :(

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I think you mean

shouldn’t have

/kidding

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it shouldn’t have over shouldn’t of? I always forget..

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yep… you “should not have” done something. “should not of” doesn’t really make any sense.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that makes sense thanks…
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It’s a walk grammar-off!

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you’re* boned

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PPPPPP Round #1 Update

The Scoring Spreadsheet has been updated from the Detroit-Phoenix series. So far, 29 people correctly guessed Detroit in 4.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought Bryz could steal at least one game, I was wrong.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. I expect a lot more of this.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bryz was pretty bad in this series. Kind of hurting his free agent market value a little bit.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just never call a sweep. When I expect a sweep I call 5 games.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn you Bryz! You should have been good enough for two games.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what’s stupid, you get a point if you guessed the #of games correctly and only 2 for guessing the winning team. BOOOOO

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah. Guessing the winner is more important.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only 50% more important though?
Those seem like pity points.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t get the point if you get the right number of games, but wrong team do you?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No if you guessed Phoenix in 4 you get 1 point. If you guessed Detroit in anything but 4 you get 2 points, seems bogus!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

You shouldn’t get 1 point for guessing Phoenix in 4 IMHO. You predicted that Phoenix would iwn in 4. That didn’t happen.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. If I guessed a car was a Green Chevy Impala, but it was a Blue Ford Taurus, I’m 1/3 right. :P

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops hhhahaha meant to say Green Ford Taurus.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

They say geniuses pick green.

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I drive a green 1998 Oldsmobile 88. Ya damn right!

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just wanted the Yotes to win

Probably should have just used my head

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I thought detriot would win, but couldn’t bring myself to vote for them.

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Same boat. Oh well. When I go perfect in every game from here on out, it won’t matter.

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow im at #242…

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by Future_considerations on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least one of my picks is working out for me..

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WHOOT 3 POINTS FOR THE FERGSTER

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by Fergus30 on Apr 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try using the reply button.——————^

It helps keep the flow of the conversation

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Don’t make a habit of writing your replies in the headline box. Use the bigger one below. Just use the headline box if you are writing either a big reply, or are posting a picture to facilitate minimizing.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or you’re Burtch.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do so many communities write in the message title so often?

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I have no idea, maybe they minimize every conversation. But if it's all in the title box what's to minimize? Confusing to say the least.

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It does minimize the sig i suppose

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haha you got me with the bold text.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured that would get someone.

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No apologies necessary. I had to be told when I first came in.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just display a sharp learning curve and no one remembers. Unless, you’re also a big jerk. You aren’t a big jerk, are you?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its a great community! Have you been lurking long?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say 10% of my posts are reply fails…

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by theninjagreg on Apr 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does anyone know all the games that are on tonight?

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Boston @ Montreal Game 4
Chicago @ Vancouver Game 5
San Jose @ Los Angeles Game 4

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats a pretty good night. Boston ties the series up. Vancouver wins it, and in they other one i dont know.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Kings would have been a real threat if they still had Kopitar but without him I can’t see them lasting much longer

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

That 4-0 blown tire is going to mess with their heads for at least one game. Just a feeling.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking SJ is gonna steamroll LA now that they collapsed like that in the last game.

Literally all the pressure is on VAN’s shoulders right now, we’ll see what they are made of against a loose, motivated Chicago team. This series is going to get epic if they have to go back to Chicago for a game 6.

Hoping for Boston to be down 3-1 after tonight.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT'S LINKY TIME!!!!!

The Internet is our friend because it has awesome websites to use when searching for hockey knowledge.

www.nhl.com is the best website for a major sport in the US, and the easiest to navigate. A+ job to my main man Deven P.

www.hockey-reference.com – Use this to search up data and what not.

www.hockeydb.com – Use this to find random players in some third tier Czech league.

www.capgeek.com – The Holy Grail for salary cap knowledge.

www.leftwinglock.com – Want to know who the starting goalies are going to be? Also has constantly updated team lineups and line combos.

www.dobberhockey.com – Great for fantasy information, line combinations, and line combo production. Invaluable.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy – Puck Daddy ya’ll.

www.behindthenet.ca – Your source for advanced stats like QCOMP, CORSI, GVT, etc….

There are many, many more but these are the biggens to know if you want to really get into the nitty gritty of the NHL.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

www.tsn.ca is all good for the hockey fan, well i like it.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’ll come around to the light side of the Force sooner or later.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sith lord up in this bitch

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still use it relatively often just as my basic site.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I use:

NHL.com for NHL quick news and Foxsports.com for NFL and MLB news.. They are better as they have more knowledgable people writing football/baseball columns there then on TSN

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats the reason I don’t use ESPN (which I did a few years ago) for NHL.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

TSN is good for highlight packages and human interest pieces…
They are not a good website for in depth writeups/stats and it isn’t the best place to quick check something…
at least thats my opinion. At least ever since Bobby Mac and Dreger are on Twitter I rarely check TSN.ca anymore

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I use them for scores. Glancing at basic stats (which I am moving to hockey reference these days), reading articles that are up quickly, and reading Dreger, Cullen and BMac

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Cullen really

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Deven P?

I think I am going to make a fan post soon with all of the resources I use on a regular basis and how I use them. Basically this list with some details.

Then I am going to make a second one with some fallacies that drive me insane that most people around here know, but many others don’t (ie a first line C /= an 80 pt C)

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The PPP user Deven P. He works, or I should say, used to work in the website department for the NHL. He still works for the NHL, just in another department.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

errrrrrrrr ohshrit

@devenp is his twitter account

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOH. I know Ohshrit. Never knew him by Deven P

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a job i would like to have.

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by theninjagreg on Apr 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

WE CAN OFFER SHEET WHOMEVER WE WANT.
TWO-WAY CONTRACTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WAIVER STATUS!!!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

err

two way contract DON’T have anything to do with waiver status… all a 2way contract means is you get paid less in the AHL than you do in the NHL. A player on a 2way contract can still be waiver eligible. See Zigomanis, Mike

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sarcasm, you missed it

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn’t even sarcasm.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, 2-way contracts. I blame EA Sports for that misconception.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

We all do

There is one small caveat I believe, if they make under a certain amount in the AHL, they become ineligible for waivers

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

only re-entry waivers.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t blame them, the waiver rules are way too complicated for a video game.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Well I’ll properly research it before the post

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or just search my Waivers 101 post…

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by clrkaitken on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. That will be where i do my “proper research”

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

the way you put it and the tone of the conversation above it sounded like those were 2 common misconceptions…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well the opposite is the misconceptions. People think we can’t offersheet anyone because we don’t have our first this year, and that two-way contracts affect waivers.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

ohh I got it now… you were yelling and ranting the CORRECT answers…

just like how my uncle Lou spends his days on the street corner wearing a tinfoil hat yelling about aliens coming to abduct us. Like he has to tell people everyone already knows that fact silly Louey..

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

That is definitely going in there.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes this would be very helpful thanks

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Edwards Best of Game 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y66R0Cpel1g&feature=related

I wish I was there to point out that Ference got his ass handed to him by Crosby so he shouldn’t make him out to be the toughest guy in the league

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yea i remember that fight. He did, Crosby may be somewhat small but he is very strong and can hold his own for sure.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Edwards really loves his Bruins and really hates the Habs diving

When he yelled “GET UP” at Hamrlik for trying to draw a penalty I almost choked on my coffee, that’s passion

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus H Christ

(H for homer)

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I always thought it was Hurschel.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The “H” is for Harold. “Harold be thy name.”

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by theninjagreg on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Holy shit that was hilarious. But if that was a nationally televised game he should be reprimanded for saying some of that shit on the air.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, its annoying.
Obviously I hate commentators that are always crapping on the Leafs, but i wouldnt want them to act like that either.
he took it too far, as he always does.

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by mariamS on Apr 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as there is a fair flat guy with him. Colour guys can be homerish

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jack Edwards is annoying but the amount of passion he displayed during that clip was hilarious

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t watch many other teams feeds. odn’t really know him.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a word? Awful.

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he says he’s the best “pound-for-pound” and Ference is listed at 5’11" 189lbs. Crosby is listed at 5’11" 200 lbs. So giving up 11 pounds, yeah.

Seriously, though, Crosby is some kind of freak. I don’t mind that Ference got cut by him. Ference has dropped plenty of people, and he’s not really known as a fighter.

Short version: Ference owns.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby is a freak

Like I said above IMHO Crosby is pound-for-pound the strongest player in the NHL. He’s ridiculously hard to knock off the puck. If he was 6’3 220 like Ovie imagine what kinda damage he would do

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love when he would be literally dragging like 3 players.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec’d for extreme truthiness.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t take the puck to the net like a man, but like a God amongst Vikings.

Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.

by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this is very true

also Forsberg was good at it too

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forsberg was a little more smash mouth than Mats, he’d crush you and take the puck, but mats would just move you off it and then walk away with it
similar, yet different

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

mats would drag you along and fool you into thinking you were somehow impeding his progress. then he’d snipe.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the whole “soft dump into the corner” thing he’s so fond of… on the Powerplay…

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering how often he scores he might think that’s where the net is.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job with the SB Nation links!

Really enjoy reading other teams fans thoughts. I for one vote for this for all the Link posts.

by masterkembo on Apr 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh, you’re always welcome to check them out each day, you don’t need to be given a link each time.

I suggest joining every NHL team’s SBNation blog in case we ever do a field trip, because some require a 24 hour or more notice period, and if you sign up on the day of the field trip you won’t be able to comment.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I realize that I can navigate to them without a link. It’s nice to have them all in one place…in a Link post.

by masterkembo on Apr 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Step 1: Join every blog
Step 2: Scroll Up
Step 3: Hover over “My Blogs”
Step 4: ???
Step 5: PROFIT!!!!1

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

nhlcheapshot did some excellent work with the #1C posts

Going from there what UFA D do you think Burke is targeting, looking at the guys available these names jump out:
Pitkanen
Ehrhoff
Wisniewski
Bieksa

Then there is some guy I’ve never heard of named Grant Clistome, put up 19 points in 31 GP with the Blue Jackets and is only 26. What say you?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually it’s Clitsome

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

A+

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you know what you’re doing.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Poor Ferg.

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nuh uh. There is no poor ferg to be had.

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by Fergus30 on Apr 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remind to tell Ferg that you hacked her account Skinny

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

/wink(le)

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by Fergus30 on Apr 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

His nickname should he sign will be Row-Boat Man!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

5’11 206, I’d say maybe. Don’t know much about him, I’d rather have one of the others- but we’d probably have to overpay for the likes of Ehrhoff and Pitkanen

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of people seem to want Ehrhoff, but I just don’t think he’s worth the money he’ll command, let someone else overpay for him

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone taken a look at his advanced stats? I don’t know how. All I know is the guy is an offensive threat from the blue line on a very good Vancouver team. Not really sold on how well he would fare on a Leafs team with lesser offense, especially since he’d command ~5 million.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's really more of a pp speciallist

I suppose if he’s paired with Schenn as a shut-down guy the pairing could work, but I don’t think it’s worth the risk

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

A really quick look

ES MInutes
pts/60 is 4th on the team (0.82
QualComp is 4th
Erhoff plays the most ES minutes
QualTeam is 2nd
CorsiRel is best on the team at 11.5

PP
3:30/game a tad less than Edler for 2nd
Best p/60 at 5.86
Crazy good CorsiRel in first

PK
5th most on the team but still putting up greater than 2 minutes
Lowest QualComp
3rd best QualTeam
CorsiRel is again best on the team by a significant margin.

I am actually surprised how good these numbers are. They are just based on this year, but he plays tougher competiotion than I expected, does a good job pushing shots down the ice, and his pts/60 on the PP is very impressive.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

#Team Ehr-Supply!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like clistome we are rebuilding he is young and good. I really dont like Pitkanan older injuries happen alot. Ehrhoff is good Hits hard amazing shot and can work a power play. I like Bieksa he is tough. And wisniewski also i like i wouldnt mind getting a hold of him.
but to me we have a good enough 6 D we need forwards.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry for not using Reply i though i did.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You did.

You can hit the “up” button to see what comment you replied to.

If it doesn’t go anywhere…. you reply failed.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burke is adding a top-pairing D losing Kaberle and Beauch was huge, without Reimer we would have been snookered.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remeber Kabrela is a FA to:) and he loves Toronto.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not against this but I’m not sure I see it happening.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know if i see it happening cause he is going to cost alot and we want a forward. But if he did i wouldnt be totaly suprised.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baded on nhlcheapshot’s fanshot the other day, I don’t see Brad Richards signing with us unfortunately. That leaves the trade route as our best option, so Burke will probably go after a defenseman. No idea who though.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say Ehrhoff and Pitkanen would be near the top of his list as far as UFAs go.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont go for Pitkanen he is injurie prone and i dont think can handle toronto.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part 3 of 3

cough shameless plug cough

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/4/21/2124090/center-of-attention-what-lies-within

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seeing as how Dion Phaneuf took off like a rocket once Kaberle left, and seeing as how Boston’s PP has taken a nose dive since he got there, I do not want Kabby back at all.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i really liked him, But i would rather we put that 5 mill we would pay hiim toward a top 6 forward.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he asked for a cent more than the 4.2 he’s making right now we say sorry buddy

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

$3M

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He shouldn’t make any more than Luke Schenn makes on his upcoming contract that’s for sure

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hold on, what?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schenn probably gets 3-3.5m/year. I don’t think Kaberle should get more.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Kaberle signs for less than 4 I will be shocked

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think soo were paying Jeff Finger 4 million LOL

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

$3.5, but he’s with the Marlies so it doesn’t really count.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad contract from bad times, he’s a non-issue right now anyways

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not for us mind you, for another team. I think teams will be very gun shy to give him a big contract with what has happened to guys like him after they sign big deals; Markov, Gonchar, etc…

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kabby is a few years younger than Gonchar

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he played himself out of a $5M/year long term deal.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I don’t see it happening. I’d love to see Kaberle back in blue and white for sentimental reasons but that was a trade that the Leafs definitely won.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged as inappropriate.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burke’s not interested.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehrhoff

Doesn’t really hit all that much

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 21, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we aquired a good big centre. Bozac just isnt a number 1 guy.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Bozak as the #3C is a good idea and I think he’d excel there. I really don’t want to see him centering Kessel on opening night this October though.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same here i either want a FA a trade we made, or Kadri.

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Kadri is going to make a permanent move to the wing.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is true…

Wilson said he thinks Kadri will spend his NHL career on the wing which I’m okay with

I think a line of Kadri-Colbourne-Kessel will be deadly… in 2013

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

is he? well Kadri Stasny Kessel
                   Kulimen Graboski McCarthur
                   Lupul Bozac Armstrong
                  Boyce Brent Colbrune
                    Crabb.orr

i coould learn to like this roster

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

MY GOD THAT HURTS MY EYES

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

why colborne 4th line wing? wtf?

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

AHL would be best

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes the jump a la Kadri, mid-way through the season.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

AHL

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not in the NHL… AHL- might as well give him top line mins down there, better for development

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly..

14 minutes a game and no PP time won’t help him develop as much as 20 min a game plus first PP time on the Marlies

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14 minutes? try south of 8 minutes..

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we were talking 3rd line sorry…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like it right now, but Colborne on the fourth seems wrong. He’s either up here in Stastny or Bozak’s spot or he’s in the AHL.

That’s some interesting formatting you’ve got there though, and um… spelling

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahaha yea spelling is off .

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Biggest understatement of the day :D

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swap Lupul and Kadri. He’s not ready for 1st line minutes. Colborne is a center and if he’s not in the Top 9, he’ll be on the Marlies. I like:

Lupul – Weiss/Stastny/Unicorn – Kessel
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Kadri – Colborne – Armstrong
Brown – Bozak – Brent
Boyce

Orr is just plain waived.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Colborne above Bozak in the depth chart? If you’re gonna put Bozak in the 4th line then don’t sign him. Boyce/Brent can fill that role

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats true,

the way Bozac plays he isnt a 4th liner.

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Hey man, do us all a favour.

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

just FYI, it’s Bozak, with a ‘k’.

also Grabovski has a ‘v’ in there.

and it’s Kulemin. and Colborne. and there’s another ‘a’ in MacArthur

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’ll put the poor guy on Prozak

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, good point Bozak on the 3rd. Brent to 4th line center. Boyce to 4th line winger. Colborne in the AHL. Orr still waived.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never want to see Orr play another game for the Leafs.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know some people don’t like when a reply is simply ‘this’. So I will say I strongly agree with this statement.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also realized that was an odd way to phrase that sentence. I should have said I don’t want. But whatever.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not at all man. I was just being silly. I used to like using ‘this’ until someone went off about it one day.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

ME!

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was you and ctrlaltken

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I dislike Burtch’d, not “this”

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by clrkaitken on Apr 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I may have coined the term ’burtch’d’. it definitely got out of hand.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dislike both. I’m not a big meme guy in general, actually.

Never got into the “in Columbus”, “my dad could beat up…”, or “in November…” ones, either.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it? ah, if it’s just you that it bugs I’m gonna keep on using it. fucking cranky italian.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

=o)

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

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by theninjagreg on Apr 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

they wont waive orr

Burke loves him lol kinda wierdly.

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Waive him or throw him out of the press box face first, doesn’t matter to me. Just don’t want to see him on the ice in a Leaf uniform again

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh I’m down for Orr vs Carkner round 20? 21?

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if he retires, takes a well-paid mascot position with the team, and entertains the crowd between periods by skating out to center ice in uniform to pummel one lucky fan?

by Peter Lynn on Apr 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

notsureifserious.jpeg

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly, there’s no Brad Richards in that lineup… ;)

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by DownGoesAvery on Apr 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t want him here

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

But we’ll put an offer in just to make Sather pay more for him

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colborne in the AHL
Crabb gone
Kadri on th Third line
25+ goal scoring Lupul on the first line.

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Would that make Wellwood, Biggie Smalls?

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more I think Bozak is on the outgoing side of any unicorn trade.

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally fine with that.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

People discussed it a little more below, but yeah. He could play on someone’s second line, could mitigate the loss of Stastny a center, and is being forced out of our top 6. If we can talk someone down to Bozak from, say, Kulemin or Colborne, we’re doing well. (Not suggesting a 1-for-1, obviously)

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by Bower Power on Apr 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope that MacA and/or Bozak could be used in that trade. I would gamble that Kadri could take the place of MacA or there are a lot of decent UFA wingers out there this summer.

(Cole, J Jokinen, Tanguay (I WANT), Fleischmann (didn’t realize it was a PE, thats scary), etc).

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

   Lupul Richards Kessel
  KGM
 Kardi Colburn Armstrong
 Boyce Brent Crabb

by Jt Malley on Apr 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Under these circumstances, where does Bozak go?

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flip him for a 2nd rounder, package 2nd rounder with prospect for that Unicorn everyone wants. Not that you’d need to in this situation, but I feel NYR will out bid for Richards and their C’s will become attainable, which will shake up the whole market at C.

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What makes you think Bozak would get us a 2nd?

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the pricing on a 3rd line C these days? Also, Brian Burke.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

About $1.5 to $2M

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he meant on the trade market.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dominic Moore was worth a 2nd rounder – similar enough comparison?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moore put up 41 pts in 63 games.

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still, I wonder if he doesn’t get dealt or pushed out the squad – especially if a new #1 is signed. Can you say he was any better than Boyce or Brent?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No but he’s also younger and you could potentially argue sophomore slump. I’d give him another year and see where he fits in

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would

I think he’s better at every aspect of the game than Boyce. And Brent is a good 4th line C but he’s not a 3rd liner for an extended period of time.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if serious

Bozak is a capable player and would be a great 3rd line centre on a good team. It’s not his fault he was placed in a top line role. The coaches make those decisions, not the player.

And to answer your question, yes he is better than Brent or Boyce. Both of those players are career AHL’ers and while I’ll admit that Bozak had a bad season, I wouldn’t put it past him to rebound from that and start producing again.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brent

is a good 4th liner. But thats about as far as I’d go.

Boyce I don’t even think has that level in him. Brent blocks a lot more shots and is better defensively than Boyce.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brent is an 'adequate' 4th liner.

Don’t get lost in the blue and white love for these guys, other than that one beast shift they are a dime a dozen.

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brent is a great 4th liner, he is an adequate 3rd liner
what makes him a great 4th liner is he is always working his ass off because he knows his job is on the line every time he steps out there

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as he keeps that ethic up, he’ll do.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boyce absolutely loooovvveeesss playing for Toronto and also works his ass off every time he’s on the ice. I’d keep em both

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have absolutely no issues with a 4th line of boyce brent and Brown

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boyce was a pleasant surprise this year.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

So was Brent

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t surprise me that much. He’s been a beast in the AHL for years and never gotten a fair shot.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boyce absolutely loooovvveeesss playing for Toronto and also works his ass off every time he’s on the ice.

That’s the kind of thing that can fade though. You know what doesn’t fade as fast? Talent. We should get more of that.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pssh. Talent is overrated.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah what ddo you need talent for

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the talent acquiring plan

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

1-year deals, how do they work?!

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but 4th line pluggers and talent are two different stories that really dont affect each other in any way

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except SPC count.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

if a 4th liner loses desire and stops playing, you bench his ass and the rest of the lines pick up the slack for his 4 mins of ice time

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh are we going to freak-out about our SPC count soon? Please oh please.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t wait until we get to 49 SPCs again, that’s always fun times on figuring out who to use the last one on.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good times, good times.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

question about the 50 SPC limit

can you carry 51 during the summer if at least one is a sliderule contract that won’t count once the preseason is over?

Cause if not we have 6 openings assuming we sign all RFAS

Although Scott and Hamilton might not get NHL contracts and Brunnstrom probably wont be qualified…

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IIRC Slide rule does not come into account until October.

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damn ok

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Yeah it sucks

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

20 points for a 4th liner isn’t too shabby. Besides, 4th liner would never, ever be a powerplay quarterback

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brent should never have been put in the positin to HAVE to be a PP QB.

I like the guy, but c’mon, he’s a hard working lower skill guy who, if he ever stops playing at 110%, will be relegated back to the AHL.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I don’t think he’ll ever stop player at 110%

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s silly, injuries and the day-to-day NHL grind will wear him down eventually.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’ll wear him down eventually and he’ll be less effective, but he’s not going to take many nights off because a lot of money rests on it

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

An example:

Have you ever worked at a job really really hard to earn a promotion, or to pass a test, something way more than you would normally do?

That doesn’t keep up forever, unless you’re a machine.

I’d say the odds of him still being in a positive favour next year are low.

Remember when Sjostrom was “steal of a throw-in” in the Phaneuf Aulie trade because of his excellent PK ability? No one, and I mean no one, functions at 110% of his ability forever.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah thats fair

As an aside, one of my friends knows someone who studies from 6pm-3am every night, so she may just be a machine

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, because that’s a comparable.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

As an aside, Aside is one of my favourite Weakerthans song.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I fully agree with your point. But I don’t know if Sjoe-storm is a great example. He had a bad season but has been known as a great PKer for a bit. HIm and Betts were great on NYR a few years back.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

How much of that was Lundqvist though?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was wondering that when I was writing it. Can look at the other PKers on the team I guess.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember back when he was a highly touted prospect back in PHX.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also wouldn’t pin bozak being miss used as a coaching problem, its not like Wilson has someone else he could put there that would do better

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right. All I’m saying is you can’t put the blame on the player who is just out there doing his job. It’s not his fault he’s being put in a #1 role where he is clearly outclassed by most of the opposition.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I’m just saying that it’s not wilsons fault either
hell it’s not anyone currently with the Leaf’s fault, even Burkes, it’s not like there is a unicorn sale on at cost-co every week

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Serious enough. It’s a question. I don’t get to see every game, nor am I well versed in stats and the tiny details of hockey. I ask these types of questions here because I figure I’m going to get better, honest answers from people who like the club than I would get from friends who are either "OMGLeafs"or “LOLeafs” all the time… and of course, the media, who are crap.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Age and spot in development is much different. Bozak is much better on the PK too. His offensive upside longterm is much higher too

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brent is a 3rd line center on a bad team and a 4th line center on a good team.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect. He should be our 4th line C

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

twice worth a 2nd rounder.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol Habs

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by happiergilmore on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope he doesn’t get $2M.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You sent people to BtN instead of to BSH to read about zone entries? I haz a sad.

by Eric T. on Apr 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, hermano. It was just the first one I saw.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

como?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if Its been mentioned or not, im sure some of you are aware though, the Detroit Red Wings eliminated the WInnipeg Jets in a sweep back in 96 to send the team to Phoenix and now they swept the coyotes to send the team back to winnipeg… talk about coming full circle

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

They swept them last year as well.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think by ‘swept them’ you mean ‘won in 7’

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap, Rule 5’d.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh crap I got it confused with the SJ/Det series. Apologies.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apologies all around

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha no worries. I actually woke up this morning, saw Detroit won and thought ‘Is that two years in a row they swept them?’. Then I went and checked and saw that it was in 7 last year.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I am functioning off of 4 hours of sleep, 8 am finals are a bitch.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

SJ won in 5, the got swept by the Hawks

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can use wikipedia too thanks.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I actually remembered that :(

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think someone’s a little bit grumpy.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s being actively truculent.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t heard that word in a while

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was hot in 09

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is in 15 years, the Winnipeg Jets are going back to Phoenix?

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope not…

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not back to Pheonix, but somewhere.

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by Chemmy on Apr 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Is that music from ‘the price is right’?

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Chemmy on Apr 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m making that my ringtone.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good call.

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by maplestirup on Apr 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

amazing.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Then we throw the money at Ehrhoff?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh joy another 2nd line center

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly. I would have liked him last year when we weren’t sure of either top 6 spot but now that Grabbo has become a perfect 2nd line center it’s all or nothing for a guy to play with Kessel. Brooks Laich doesn’t put up enough points, even playing with Ovechkin.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s probably a better 1C option than bozak at this point, but i’d rather not lock him up for 4 years 4 mil per or whatever

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He plays with a lot of different people (but mostly Semin who is better than Kessel)

From Dobber hockey:

7.69% EV 90 JOHANSSON,MARCUS – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
5.62% PP 19 BACKSTROM,NICKLAS – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 8 OVECHKIN,ALEXANDER – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
5.1% EV 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 85 PERREAULT,MATHIEU – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
4.68% EV 14 FLEISCHMANN,TOMAS – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
4.04% EV 90 JOHANSSON,MARCUS – 22 KNUBLE,MICHAEL – 21 LAICH,BROOKS
3.78% EV 14 FLEISCHMANN,TOMAS – 22 KNUBLE,MICHAEL – 21 LAICH,BROOKS
3.33% EV 19 BACKSTROM,NICKLAS – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
3.18% EV 44 ARNOTT,JASON – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 28 SEMIN,ALEXANDER
3.09% SH 15 GORDON,BOYD – 21 LAICH,BROOKS
2.58% EV 22 KNUBLE,MICHAEL – 21 LAICH,BROOKS – 85 PERREAULT,MATHIEU
2.24% EV 25 CHIMERA,JASON – 16 FEHR,ERIC – 21 LAICH,BROOKS

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, and he doesn’t even put up Grabbo numbers playing with arguably one of the best snipers in the league and Kessel hasn’t cracked 40 yet

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sayin just sayin

that Johansson, Backstrom and Perreault are all centres so it looks like he’s spent most of his time this year on the wing…

Maybe Burke doesn’t agree with Wilson when Wilson says Kadri is a winger? and would like a guy who can play both? Or maybe he’s picking a guy who can hold a roster spot until Colbourne is ready?

Who really knows

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t want him so much I actively ignored him in my Center analysis.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

havent we been down this road?

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha what a douchey tweet. “I’m better at having hunches than you!”

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He could be a good fit, not ideal, but good. He plays with a sniper already in Semin and had an off year in terms of shooting % (7.7% vs his average of 10%) that would have put him over 50 points for a third straight years. He would get more PP time with the Leafs, and be our 2nd/3rd PK center instead of Grabovski.

I’d still prefer someone like Weiss, but Laich is easier to get.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i just think he is going to cost too much monies and create a cap problem down the road

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, plus it fits with your notion of only needing another 50-60 point C. Which I think is reasonable. Then we can throw some money at Ehrhoff or some other blueliner. I think adding a 50-60pt C and a top-paring D would make this a playoff team. (Usual goal-tending caveats included)

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can Fleischmann play C? I have seen a lot of suggestions he can. I htink he could be an interesting move. May be cheaper too.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries being the main concern there.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s got unresolved medical issues

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can Fleischmann play hockey?

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

fleischmann’s health issues scare the crap out of me

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

too many in columbus’ today

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why I think he’ll be cheaper.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking into it

I would be nervous with a PE too. They have a reasonably high chance of reoccurrence. That really sucks they can cause sudden death. I feel for the guy.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know why but I’m pretty sure I dislike Weiss a fair bit.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i feel that way about every florida player, every single one
I do not know why

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much. it’s weird but I can’t shake it.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

the only players that have donned the panther that i have ever liked are McCabe (when he was a Leaf, and good) and Bure, because, well he was pavel fucking Bure and amazing

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always had a soft spot for Scott Mellanby.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

im pretty sure he was the first player I ever hated for no real reason

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff. He was slow as hell in the NHL video games.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that Kulikov kid. And the former Panther the other Caveman

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

horton pisses me off because he is probably the second laziest player in the NHL after Penner
Kulikov i have no opinion of

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talented mofo. Oh and I absolutely love Vokoun and did Anderson and am le sad that he is now a hated, dirty, stinking Sen

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

always been indifferent to vokun and anderson always creeped me out with his skinny baldness

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

he reminds me of Micahel Stipe

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

he reminds me of john malcovich

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does creep the shit out of me too. He looks like a lab rat. I am semi convinced his eyes are red and they just photoshop it out.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Low blow…

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched that game last year where the Avs beat the Sharks 1-0 on the Boyle own-goal, when Anderson had 50-some saves. Loved it.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was so happy for Anderson when he won that game from the flukey bounce.

by purplish on Apr 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kovalev begs to differ

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kovalev at least put up amazing numbers for a bunch of years, Horton and Penner have put up “decent” numbers but never once reached their potential

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that.

28, 31, 27 G 3 seasons in a row is pretty damn impressive

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

compared to the skill he has and what he could have done if he showed up for more than half the games? no

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess so…

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto!

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stastny or bust

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I strongly agree with this statement.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah bust! Let’s do that!

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds fun. Doubt Stastny is happening is the 20 extra points he’d put up over another #2esque center worth the assets and cap hit, probably not.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you think a PPG player is not ‘worth it’ then you’re doing it wrong. If you think Brad Richards is a good signing but Stastny is not worth it then I don’t know what to say.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trading for Stastny will cost assets, signing Richards costs no assets

Whether Richards signs a decent contract is another matter

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

CAP IS AN ASSET

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right. I just don’t know anymore someone tell me how to think.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck Richards.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

See this helps.
Who do we blow our cap-space on then?
Ehrhoff
Row-Boat Man?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

If he were still in his 20s and legitimately had at least 6 good years or NHL production left, I think this would be a way harder call for me. Plus with the concussion history, even if he “fully recovers”, if he gets cranked one more time we could be fucked.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry NCS. <3 you

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stastny takes up a lot of cap space too.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not as much space as Richards.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is trading away someone like Kadri or Colborne + other assets for a player who had a pretty off-year really worth saving like 2 million in cap space?

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Than Richards? Yes. He will decrease in production DRASTICALLY over hte next couple years. As well I would call Richards concussion as worrying as Stastny’s off year.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sold. We have no idea whether his concussion will become a recurring issue and his production decrease will still make him roughly a ppg player. And while we’ll probably have to pay him somewhat more on the cap, we don’t give up an upcoming prospect like Kadri, Colborne, or Gardiner

I’m happy with either of the two guys to be honest but getting Stastny seems like it would cost too much. I’m on team Richards until he signs somewhere else.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have no idea whether his concussion will become a recurring issue and his production decrease will still make him roughly a ppg player

No it won’t. During the last 5 years he HAS BEEN a ppg player. every year between .85 and 1.15. A decrease is going to bring him below that. You don’t pay 7 million for below ppg for a player in their 30s. Hello Gomez.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Stastny hasn’t been a ppg player since his second year in the league. We’d have to give up AT LEAST one of Kadri/Colborne/Gardiner, probably two of them, and a high pick to pry him from Colorado.

Still not sold.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of Stastny if possible but am not depending on it. I am wholeheartedly AGAINST Richards.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also random point

Stastny’s first year was 0.95 ppg, which was his 3rd highest ppg. Last years was his lowest.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I donno if a 0.0397PPG per year decline is “drastic”

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets just call it 0.04. So 3 points per year. It adds up when we are talking about signing a guy to a 5+ year contract. Also my bigger concern is that he has had a .3 ppg gap for the last half dozen years. You get him on one of his .85 ppg years are you happy?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

first things first – you (and others) have already changed my mind about what I would be willing to throw at richards… but:

over the next two years you said he will decline drastically

if someone goes from 96 points this year to 90 points in 2 years I have trouble calling that “drastic”…in fact I’d say those are two years of pretty equivalent play, subject to some puck luck for better or worse

look, I’m not on the Richards bandwagon and I wouldn’t want him on the leafs for anything other than a reasonable contract (which he won’t get)…

but I have problems with people doubting his ability and making hyperbolic statements like “he will drastically decline”

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t know where I stand on this issue. I was on Team Richards, but now I’m not so sure.
I think it all depends on what we have to give up. I feel like we have very few prospects that I’d be comfortable with trading this soon.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mehh I have 3 “untouchables” imo as they are the 3 I think will help this team by the end of the year next year as well as moving forward

Kadri
Colbourne
Gardiner

all 3 provide talent in exactly the places we need… everyone else while may be good I think are replaceable in either their skill sets or the time it will take them to make it to the NHL

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

it would probably cost at least 2 of em to get stastny

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be willing to pay that price.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are the odds of Kadri/Colbourne being PPG players? Both are good but I just don’t see them being as good as Stastny.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but if we have them both they don’t need to be .ppg players. Plenty of non-playoff teams have .ppg players and plenty of playoff teams have none.
I just don’t know anymore.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly wouldn’t hurt to have a PPG.

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well no, but at what cost?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

right, and if it was ONLY 2 of them then sure, but it would also involve multiple high picks and a roster player of value

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri/Colbourne, one of the firsts, one of our D prospects not named Gardiner/Blacker, Gunnarson (they need D)

Think it could be done?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, because they will then turn around and say “this is what toronto offered, whatchew got?” and that would be blown out of the water by another team

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they want futures, I’m not sure another team could beat our offer unless LA is putting Schenn on the table. Or if Edmonton gives their first overall + prospect.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they don’t even want to trade him.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

there’s the kicker, I don’t think they want to, but they are probably putting him on display to see if anyone offers then the world

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t think so either.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Colorado’s management is at all competent, doesn’t the conversation for Stastny begin and end with Luke Schenn?

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cuz the org should laugh at them.

Cue birky saying he would trade Schenn for Stastny

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

1st line talent > defensive defensemen 7 days a week

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but it sets the leafs defence back when you trade one of your 2 best defencemen

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

if there wasn’t D available in free agency, I’d be more likely to agree. But there always seems to be good defense on July 1st.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like defensive stalwart, Mike Komisarek

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flagged for reminding me of him.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

that contract won’t look so bad in another summer

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

its scary that you’re prolly right

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

just like the McCabe and Kaberle deals. As the cap continues to go up, it drives down the impact of his contract. Not to mention that Komi’s deal has yet to prevent the Leafs from signing anyone.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m holding out hope that he’ll regain his MTL form.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

And apparently he’s a great guy in the room.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what cuthbert said

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’s the player rep isn’t he?
I know he was with the Habs.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do believe so, yes.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not convinced more of an offensive game doesn’t develop out of him. Ideally to Suter levels.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Suter?

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Someone (I think Jared) used to bring him up as a comparable al lot.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking @ his numbers, if Schenn could post those.. /swoon.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re stealing my answer.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Suter entered the league at 21. At 21 his season looks remarkably similar.

Look how long it takes many D-man to discover their offensive game (Keith?)

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boo this man

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would consider it personally. But I think that may have only been an option before Johnson came in.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

bingo. Johnson is a right handed shot. Not sure how much interest they’d have in Schenn now.

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

for colorado it would probably start there
for burke it would probably end there

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see no point in filling one hole in our team by opening up another.

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by article1 on Apr 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

.8 ppg is plenty. they don’t need to be the full 1 ppg

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say pretty damn low

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I’m in the camp of don’t overvalue your prospects and picks. If the opportunity is there and the deal makes sense do it.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Before this year people were saying Kadri would be a 50 pt player if he was lucky. I am hoping for 60 pt player out of him.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I’m hoping we could flip him for a unicorn. He still has pretty good value since teams are still pretty high on his potential. So why not trade that potential ‘premium’ and take back a proven player (like Stastny, for example).

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not against moving him for the right deal. But, basically not for anyone below the value of Stastny/Spezza/I don’t even know who else.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on team

lets not do anything drastic here… If we can get Stastny/unicorn for a good price then do it but we don’t have to mortgage the farm to do so because WE NEED A PPG PLAYER OMGZ..

I would be perfectly content to settle and sign a Connolly to a one year deal and take things slow. This offseason isn’t the only chance to get a #1 centre before we are cup contenders afterall.

Looking at Connolly I was shocked to notice between 07-10 when he was healthy (err not so much) he was actually very close to being a PPG player himself. If he stays healthy and regains that form then wow we just got an almost PPG centre wooo. If something happens then we promote Colbourne ahead of schedule and go from there. Also if Connolly puts up points at a 60pt pace (ohnoez how terrible) and Colbourne is ready we can flip him for something at the deadline…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were 13 PPG players in the NHL this year

They played on 8 different teams, 7 of those teams made the playoffs meaning there are 9 playoff teams without a PPG player on them.

9 PLAYOFF TEAMS WITHOUT A PPG GAME PLAYER!

Last year – 25 on 12 teams, only 8 made the playoffs.

08-09: 20 on 12 teams, 8 made the playoffs.

It goes on and on.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derek Roy is ppg, so 10.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Minimum 50 games played.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

/sad trombone.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn’t sure what minimum you were using :)

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what has me thinking we sign another 60 pt center as a UFA and then sign another top pairing d-man as well. Only asset lost is cap space which we have lots of.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Conference finalists for the last 3 years?

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is that without a ppg player there is no way we’re making the playoffs.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re boned!!!

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Were boned

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

our boned

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't tell if your agreeing with me

that getting PPG player this offseason is the end all. I still say its not and your #’s agree with me.

Oh and in 3 seasons between 07 and 10 Connolly put up 152 pts in 169 games which is about .899 pts/g which is pretty damn good… when he’s healthy

So if we are ignoring Stastny’s dropoff for a season should we ignore his as well?

Plus Connolly would allow Colbourne some NHL time when he gets his annual injury.

If we can get a 1 yr deal for around 4.5 (pay more to get the shorter term..) thats very good imo and like I said before we can always flip him later in the season if we want

Oh and he’s a playmaker which would help Kessel and Lupul

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Connolly gets injured every five minutes and scores half of his points against the Leafs

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Connolly blows.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah no thanks on Connolly, but I’m also on the “take it slow” wagon. Not comfortable with parting with significant prospects/picks with our farm depth at its current level.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with a short deal on Connoly. I do not want to role in next year without SOMEONE to play the #1 C spot. I don’t want Colborne rushed, or Bozak bakc into that spot. Part of patience was signing ppl like Beauch who was moved when the team was ready.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

and I picked Connolly because if he finds a cure for MVR disease, he’d be another 60 pt player if not 70. He’s a stopgap option only and not the longterm solution. But for part of a year just to add depth to the team I’m all for it. I think he’s a better fit than Laich at least

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha, just my opinion I’m not into Connolly. I’m good with another option on a 1 year deal.

by lucc on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

1yr deal for a 60pt centre if the Unicorn is too expensive.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

connoly may take 1 year deal to rebound. The rest may not

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be an awesome 12 games.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s played 73 and 68 games the last 2 seasons… I would be perfectly fine with that # of games from him

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would move one of Kadri/Colbourne if a stud was coming back.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

soo

Kadri, Colbourne and a 1st would be “worth it” for you?

its all relative to cost vs. potential on whether the Unicorns will be worth it

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, I’m not sure what I’d be willing to give up.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri, a contract, and Philly/Boston’s 1st and I’ll do it.

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by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colorado wouldnt

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Colorado wont

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by PKSube on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, 4/20 was yesterday

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know its my Leaf bias

but that’d feel like a suckerpunch agreeing to that deal but I still would have to do it as the value of the deal is there…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

HOLD ON
You think that deal favours the leafs??

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

oooops

I mean the Avalanche???

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

WizardofNAZ

In 10 years, Lebda will be better than Lidstrom

by Leafswinthecup on Apr 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let me clarify

Trading Kadri will be like a suckerpunch but I know including him in a fair deal will most likely be necessary and will benefit the leafs so I can’t be upset trading him but I really like him and trading him will hurt despite it being necessary and productive for the leafs.

That being said in terms of value the Leafs pretty clearly win that trade

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Malkin!
actually its funny how much ive seen this one pop up (and not on hfboards only) what i find even funnier is that there are a ton of Leaf fans who say they wouldn’t take Malkin even if the Leafs drastically under paid for him

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

MALKIN SUX!!111

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

What you fail to remember is, a lot of Leaf fans are fuckin retarded.

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Malkin would be the best player weve had in the last 40 years not named Sittler, Clark, GIlmour or Sundin

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clark is not in the same league as those other four. Malkin has the ability to be a step above Sundin and Gilmour and I can’t judge Sitler.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

couldnt not mention Clark without fear or being banned

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah fair.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

sittler and gilmour are the only ones mentioned who scored more points than Malkin, and none of them have scored more goals than he has (single seasons of course)
Malkin is also only 24

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he’s enigmatic.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? You’re not sure if that was serious? Or did you just want to post that picture?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is a cool picture

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like posting pictures

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How long have you been waiting to use that one?

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mishkaaaa.
Mishkaaaaaa.
Mishka, I love you.

Row ruv roooooo.

Anyone else see this?

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have, pure entertainment

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i try to forget that every day, but i keep getting reminded

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad, I can help.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?!?! I would trade all of our prospects fo rhim

/not sure if I am serious

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Pittsburgh would do it, seeing as how they seem to be able to win without both him and Crosby in the lineup. They don’t really need to move him, and what do we have that they really want? Prospects are only useful if you have slots for them to move up to. Pittsburgh is pretty set in terms of their main blocks of players.

by Leaf in Habland on Apr 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Penguins were willing to trade Malkin, one of Kulemin or Schenn would be in the deal, and probably someone else significant too, like Kadri. So something like Kulemin + Kadri + Boston’s 1st. That’s a lot to give up if we’re still considering ourselves to be a rebuilding team.

by Draglikepull on Apr 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if all Malkin would cost was Kulemin + Kadri + late 1st, he’d have been traded long long long ago

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, Shero would ask for nothing less than all the tea in China.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not even going to try and speculate on what it would cost.
Spoiler alert: we don’t have it.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canada is not know for its tea.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maple Syrup?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maple syrup tea?

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh, Malkin scores a lot more goals than I thought.

by Draglikepull on Apr 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel cost 2 1st and a 2nd

Malkin and Kessel aren’t at the same level. Not even close

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be honest, Malkin actually has much better statistics than I thought.

by Draglikepull on Apr 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you even watch the games?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh games? Not often.

by Draglikepull on Apr 21, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, I was clearly way off base, carry on.

by Draglikepull on Apr 21, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why Rule #5 exists.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also did

this
.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus he you know won the Conn Smythe Trophy.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Art Ross, Hart runner-up twice…

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he does play with Sidney Crosby.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s okay.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too enigmatic for me.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s been playing hurt for 2 years.

by samspade on Apr 21, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

His interviews are also awesome. Intangibles!

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by Leafer87 on Apr 21, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he's possible

But I’d be happy with Spezza

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Laich would also cost nothing but money, whereas Weiss will cost picks and/or prospects.

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by clrkaitken on Apr 21, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

and the leafs would still need a 1c

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhhh maybe maybe not.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’d be a good buffer for developing one, or waiting for a ufa/trade
but he aint no 1C

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want MacDonald. Stupid NTC…

Meanwhile Oshie is an RFA (/not actually happening)

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for pun and because I’m in agreement.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks laich? lame.

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by Future_considerations on Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recaps, Recaps, Recaps,

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the question is .. What part of Ryan Miller’s Body are we going to break to help the FLYERS win the Stanley Cup !!!!

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by FLYERROB on Apr 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

None but it wouldn’t hurt to start living up to that division winning pedigree and score a goal or two. That game last night was painful

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah, i’d rather have the 24th over all pick than the 30th

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

God it sounds like you actually want that to happen. I really hope not. I still hate Clark for that bs.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

just kidding but angry of course !

Not unlike a Maple Leaf fan wouldnt say the same thing if it was in their situation

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by FLYERROB on Apr 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think we’ve said it before.

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reimer’s mask for the World Championships. No word on whether or not it has the Optimus Reim logo on it.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

i wonder how much money they get for leaving the bauer logo visible

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a decent player on international ice.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

INTANGIBLES!!!1

No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.

by article1 on Apr 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Drury

is NYR captain and he blows… doesn’t mean he’s a bad Captain.

I don’t get the whole “The captain has to be one of the best players” thing.

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the captain has to be able to tell skill players what to do
if you are a shitty hockey player guys like Kovalchuk or Stamkos probably will tune you out

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

so a defensive defenseman can’t be captain because he can’t tell a Stamkos what to do? so Eric Brewer in StL was a bad captain?

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive Defenseman != shitty hockey player.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his argument was that a defensive defenseman does not know about offense.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure he does, their job is specifically to stop offense

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I wasn’t agreeing, just clarifying.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay than whats wrong

with a 3rd or 4th line shutdown guy being captain? Obviously I’m not saying make a Colton Orr captain but if someone like Manny Malhotra was a very good locker room leader I would be 100% comfortable making him my captain. Also I was okay with a goalie being captain as well. (Goalie bias)

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are special cases, but not generally
I mean if said 3rd liner 4th liner is a 10+ year vet with experience, or former “good” player on the down swing who has the built up respect (Arnott, Rolston etc) then sure
but say, Tim Brent? probably not

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said

If a player can control the room then it doesn’t matter what he’s done or what he can do. Star players always are easy to listen to because they are the stars. But if a lesser player regardless of experience can come in and control the room he’ll be a great captain

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but we are talking in hypothetical, in reality I can’t think of a single career 4th liner/bottom pairing defenseman who has ever been captain in the NHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ethan Moreau off the top of my head, though he’s not a 4th liner.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was more or less because they lost smyth and he was a long standing member/IE no one better, but ok sure

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Clark? He had one 30 and one 20 goal season with WSH

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow really?

I never heard of him before he got traded and found out he had been the captain so I assumed he was terrible

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Clark

was captain of Wash before he was traded and Ovie took over

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

see what BCapp said below

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key word is probably. They need to just be able to earn the respect of the players and show they know what to do.

Sometimes this isn’t hte most skilled player. But it almost always should be one of the most skilled.

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are obvious exceptions, like Andreychuk in TBay

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Foote in Colorado this year I don’t htink was a bad C

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by BCapp on Apr 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

also there is a “grizzled vet” out in the logic too
if a guy has been around long enough and seen everything, people are more likely to listen to him

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its liek when we were discussion Team Canada. Lots of people wanted Team Canada’s captain to be Sid

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

although I don’t know what he’s like in the dressing room but I wouldn’t have given him an A even… I would’ve given it to Nash

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

for me its whoever controls the locker room emotions the best. If theres a player… say a Tim Brent who works his ass off but is really only a 4th line guy. But in the dressingroom controls the team getting them pumped when needed or keeping them calm and collected when needed then that is the guy I want as my Captain regardless of skill level.

And if that is Rickard Wallin for Sweden then he is the best choice. Oh and it doesn’t hurt that he’s a good skilled guy in the SEL as well

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yes, if Tim Brent could own the room like that and there was no one better sure
but then 4th liners like tim brent don’t usually command that kind of respect because of who they are

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that...

but my point is the captain should be the player who controls the room regardless of position, experience or skill level.

You’re right to say the star players always have an edge, unless they have the social skills of Phil Kessel but even if you had an Ovie on your team a guy like Chris Clark could still be the best captain for the team

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, giving skill players the C just because they are very good at hockey is fucking stupid too

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 21, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Yashin wear the C for NYI or something

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, it would be like us giving Kessel the C.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Apr 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Kessel SHOULD be our captain just because it would be hilarious when he has to do more interviews lol

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see more pictures of him picked last at the all-star game before scoring a billion goals after it. That was fun.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have not gotten it.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not surprised...

I don’t get a lot of things… thanks for pointing out my shortcomings

Now excuse me while I go cry a little bit

PS. what did I miss?

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rickard Wallin couldn’t hack it on one of the all-time worst Leafs teams and is now the captain of the Swedish team at the World Championships. THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! Sweden might as well ice their bikini team, they’re going to get rolled.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh then I did get it and responded to imply that despite him being the captain doesn’t mean he’s the best player out there. He’s been very good in the SEL again this year. Has a lot of international experience at the WC and is probably a good team guy. I don’t know their roster but he could be a 4th line guy for all we know.
Plus he plays better on international ice if the SEL #’s mean anything

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him being on Team Sweden is almost as bad as Tim Stapleton being on Team USA.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do realize this is his 5th straight WC right? and has won bronze the last 2 years…

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still funny. Just goes to show how much of a joke the WC truly are.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yaah this is true…

you usually get 2 maybe 3 good lines and then guys your like “really? you still play hockey?” to fill out the 4th line

by WizardofNaz on Apr 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even more pathetic how poorly Canada did last year.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, they usually take the WC fairly seriously in europe except in Olympic years.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris. Fucking. Mason.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

in europe

North America doesn’t care.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 21, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So bryz in net for russia now? I read somewhere nabby was trying out for the russian roster. And yandle if he goes is a nice upgrade to team usa defence.

by jeffgm on Apr 21, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him and Andy Miele are going to rock that tournament.

With Komisarek on the back end, what could go wrong?

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were going to ask Alfredsson, but were afraid he’d guarantee victory

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by birky on Apr 21, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

amazing

the pic of duceppe is hilarious.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

broken link?

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOL

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow.


Oh wow…

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s getting serious consideration for my new avatar.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s faaaaabulous!

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by JP Nikota on Apr 21, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

so ugly

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 21, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

beautiful on the inside

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 21, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Gillis is a fuckin baby

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKJD_L-rauU

He may have a point as Samuelsson pushed the Hawk player in the offensive zone. I guess the Hawks are the cheaters tho right?

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by leafer1984 on Apr 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, yeah I wouldn’t call that offside, he was straddling the line.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 21, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle's article on Kabby makes me sad
"Has he been a disappointment? He hasn’t played up to the level that we expected," Chiarelli told 98.5 The Sports Hub (via Joe Haggerty at CSNNE.com). "There have been parts of his game where he hasn’t played in the playoffs for a while and some of those [bad] habits have stuck with him. We expected better."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/kaberle-not-working-out-with-the-bruins/article1994307/

Just haaaaaaad to get a playoffs joke in, didn’t you Haggerty.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

If by Haggerty you mean Chiarelli.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 21, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha whoops.

Screw you Haggerty too though, just in case.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Bruins, seriously. I still hope they beat the Habs, but beyond that – fuck them. They don’t deserve Kabby.

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by daoust on Apr 21, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

His heart’s just not in it.

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still kind of see him fitting well in SJ if he would ever suck it up about the Western Conference thing.

You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'

by nhlcheapshot on Apr 21, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not Boston. His eyes just scream “get me out of here”

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 21, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god, what have I done

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by Semi_Colon on Apr 21, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Montreal Canadiens holding a long winder and retarded pre-game ceremony, absolutely shocking

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