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Saturday night I had the pleasure of taking in the Leafs-Senators game at the ACC East. As part of the festivities for my buddy's bachelor party we were in a box lovingly provided by his father. Things being as they tend to be, the memories of the game are somewhat hazy. If you ever have a chance to have someone else pay for you to go see a game like that I recommend it. If you want to go to see a Leafs game with lots of Leafs fans, a great atmosphere, and a good chance at a win (of late), head down to Ottawa. But I digress.

What I do remember is that Phil Kessel notched his 30th goal of the season. It is the second time he has hit that mark as a Maple Leaf and the third time in row in his career. The goal was scored at the other end of the ice so I'll blame that for not being able to realise that it was such a great goal. The Noon Number and the goal are after the jump.

Star-divide

Kessel's goal highlights the unique skills that he brings to the Toronto Maple Leafs. He reads the offensive opportunity in the Leafs' quick play in the corner and skates to open ice where he can exploit one of his best attributes: his incredible speed. His speed forces panic in the lead footed Flip Kuba which cause him to turn to the middle of the ice rather than towards Kessel. I'd wager that he did so as an acknowledgement that he was was limited to trying to prevent Kessel from cutting across the front of the net since a turn towards the outside would have left him choking on Kessel's dust. At first glace, it looked like Craig Anderson had bailed out his errant defenceman. That's when Kessel's predatory nature and excellent hand eye coordination netted him his 30th. On the fly, he reacted to the rebound and batted it in to send Leafs fans into raptures.

Which brings us to the Noon Number: Since the 1994-1995 season, 11 players have compiled three or more 30 goal seasons in the seasons up to and including their 24th birthday (as of February 1st of that season). The list is, as you can imagine, in addition to being limited is quite illustrious:

Player From To Team 30G Seasons
Alex Ovechkin 2006 2010 WSH 5
Sidney Crosby 2006 2010 PIT 4
Ilya Kovalchuk 2003 2007 ATL 4
Eric Staal 2006 2009 CAR 4
Marian Gaborik 2002 2006 MIN 3
Paul Kariya 1996 1999 MDA 3
Phil Kessel 2009 2011 TOR/BOS 3
Evgeni Malkin 2007 2009 PIT 3
Rick Nash 2004 2008 CBJ 3
Zach Parise 2007 2009 NJD 3
Bobby Ryan 2009 2011 ANA 3
Eric Daze 1996 1998 CHI 2
Milan Hejduk 2000 2001 COL 2
Marian Hossa 2001 2002 OTT 2
Anze Kopitar 2008 2010 LAK 2
Eric Lindros 1996 1997 PHI 2
Ziggy Palffy 1996 1997 NYI 2
Mike Richards 2009 2010 PHI 2
Alexander Semin 2007 2009 WSH 2
Jason Spezza 2007 2008 OTT 2
Steven Stamkos 2010 2011 TBL 2
Jonathan Toews 2009 2011 CHI 2
Thomas Vanek 2007 2008 BUF 2
Alexei Yashin 1997 1998 OTT 2

The list above can certainly grow in the coming seasons. Jeff Skinner will no doubt add his name to the list as will Stamkos and Toews to say nothing of guys like Taylor Hall and Jonathan Tavares. But that's not to say that Boston didn't get a unique talent in Tyler Seguin. Over that same period he is one of only 148 players to score 11 goals in their first season. Be careful not to read that last link too closely.

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Eric Daze has the distinction of being the most overrated player in the early 2000 versions of the EA NHL games.

by sodonis on Apr 4, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Eric Daze was a beast. If not for injuries, man, he’d have been among the best power forwards of the 00s.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Power forward in the Joe Colborne way, not in the Lindros way.

by sodonis on Apr 4, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

shame about that back. smart kid, imho.

by spoonie on Apr 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It means Total because he did it once with Boston and once with Toronto but then I realised that it would look like a typo so I fixed it.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, now I understand what TOT means. Thanks.

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by theninjagreg on Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tottenham?

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Normally denotes a child < 3 years old.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are definitely the best tasting variety of TOT.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timbits!

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an important stat: Time On Toilet.

by Shield on Apr 4, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey Napoleon, give me some of your tots!”

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by nolan_21 on Apr 4, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be careful not to read that last link too closely.

lol Number 134?

by Leaf in Habland on Apr 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Bingo

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was better at crosschecking at 19 than Seguin will ever be.

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by Back In Black on Apr 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember much of Kessel that season, was he playing C the entire time?

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by TheNadger on Apr 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

or 124

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by haxen on Apr 4, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was PPP jumping on a reference to #117.

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by Bower Power on Apr 4, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact: Only Three defensemen are on that list
Marek Zidlicky (?)
Dion Phaneuf
Tyler Myers!

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zidlicky isn’t all that surprising… he’s fell off a little but he was a dynamite offensive defenseman when he was a Predator.

Let the Wookie win.

by Kenjamin on Apr 4, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s put up pretty good numbers in Minny too. He’s been hurt most of this season.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t even thought to compare their two rookie seasons. Kessel did a bit better with a little more ice time on a significantly poorer team. Sounds alright to me.

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by mluk on Apr 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel was the only player to be traded in between/during 30 goal seasons on that list?

by nuD on Apr 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. This list should highlight just how hard it is for a player of Kessel’s age and ability to move.

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by Bower Power on Apr 4, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is quite significant

by nuD on Apr 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another good observation.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a big Fuck you to Kessel haters………i’ve been very impressed with his play on D, nowhere near as good as Kuli or Grabs but good nonetheless and a marked improvement over his first season.

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by LeafFan1989 on Apr 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's how every talk about Kessel on defense goes

Kessel sucks at defense.
But he has 30 goals.
So, he sucks at defense.
How’d he get the puck to score all of those goals?
*crickets

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favourite was the time he thieved the puck from Karlsson then tore in on that break away and shelved it

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that the one where he came down the right side had literally no space on the short side of the net and still scored

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about

This, actually.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

That was the goal that made me think “This guy is amazing and was worth what we gave up”. It had been so long since the Leafs had a player that could turn nothing into something that quickly. Like his goal against Florida earlier in the year. He has game-breaking ability.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 4, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hate on Kessel is just dumb hockey fans who don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

- We all know he’s one of 7 players in the current NHL to have scored 30 three consecutive times.
- He’s the youngest of them all.
- He’s scored 30 with Tyler Bozak and Joey Crabb on his line for the bulk of the year, while every other one of those 3×30 scorers are playing alongside established talent.
- His point total thus far (61) is ONE SINGLE POINT LESS than the point totals of all his linemates this year combined (except for the short time he played with Grabbo/Kulie)
- He’s a PPG player in the playoffs

He’s elite whether you’re a dumbass Leaf-hater or not. Once Burke gets an established, consistent, skilled centre Kessel is just going to be shitting on the fools who doubted him year, after year, after year. Barring injury, he’s good for 40+ without a doubt, and depending on how his line shapes up in the coming years, he could be looking at some years of 40/40/80.

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

His point total thus far (61) is ONE SINGLE POINT LESS than the point totals of all his linemates this year combined (except for the short time he played with Grabbo/Kulie)

Sorry, but nope.

Versteeg – 43
Bozak – 31
Crabb – 15
Lupul – 16 (on the Leafs)

Total – 105

That doesn’t include other players he’s played with for shorter stretches, such as Armstrong.

by Draglikepull on Apr 4, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he meant Bozak and Lupul only.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak (31 pts, ) + Crabb (15) + Lupul (16 with Leafs) = 62

That’s what I was going off of. I didn’t include Army because the way I’m reading dobberhockey it looks like Kessel’s spent less than 10% of his minutes with him. And yeah I forgot about Versteeg who was actually a good linemate with Kessel for a while there.

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what the total would be if you only included the points scored when playing with Kessel. We know that Versteeg didn’t get all 43 points when on the same line as Kessel. I don’t know how to look this up though. Could you find it at Behindthenet?

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by nolan_21 on Apr 4, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Versteeg – 10 points while on the ice with Kessel.
Crabb – 6
Bozak – 27
Lupul – 14
Armstrong – 2
Grabbo – 13
Kulemin – 7

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.dobberhockey.com/frozenpool_production.php?selForward=TOR-124&situation=ALL&games=2010-2011%3AR%3A99&Submit=Show+Line+Production&sent=go

Overall he’s been hottest since the Lupul trade but he did pretty well with Joey Crabb and Grabbo/Kulie at parts of the season

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice. Still only 8 points less than the sum of his linemates!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitchell – 1
Kadri – 3
Brent – 3
MacArthur – 9

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame you for not putting up a comprehensive list in the first place.

Besides, we don’t REALLY need to count JFM’s point, do we?

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I always forget about Dobber Hockey.

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by nolan_21 on Apr 4, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having twice as many points as his center is pretty impressive and probably another reason why Burke picked him up. He is a player that is enhanced by having an elite center but can produce solid seasons without one. If we can ever get an 80 point guy down the middle watch the fuck out

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah for some reason I didn’t think of Versteeg.

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one ever does, in fact, I’ve begun to forget he was even part of this team.

I was not a fan of him at all.

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by thenumber14 on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to like him so badly but something about him really irked me

He had all of the tools to be successful on the first line with Kessel but decided to leave his creativity in Chicago I guess

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was it that bothered you?

He was a 0.57ppg player (including playoffs) on Chicago’s 3rd line last year. In Toronto he was a 0.66ppg player, playing with the increased responsibility and ice time.

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soft wrist shots from the blue line was one thing and something else I can’t quite put my finger on.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you even watch the games?

Kidding, of course

Never once did I ever think he was worth the trade, let alone any increased responsibility to begin with. I was willing to give him a chance when he was here but, in all honesty, when he was traded my immediate thought was “well, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out”

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by thenumber14 on Apr 4, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mouthguard chewing….

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the picks we got from Philly turn into something nice, I’ll be happy enough not to hold a grudge against him.

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other side of that, I still think trading him to Philly for a late 1st was a poor decision. 24-year old repeat 20 goal scorers don’t come around every day.

by Draglikepull on Apr 4, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

A first and a third.
And this is a list of repeat twenty goal scorers between the ages of 23-25.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, this is the list.
And this just considers the season where the player is between 23-25, not years before that. It’s not as uncommon as you would think.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I skipped to the end of that list to keep you all from having to look through it.
Also, I copied the wrong address.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

List from the beginning.
And this is just from 1990 to today. Still a lot of names.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to that list there have been 53 players to score 20 goals more than 3 times by 25, ie. about 2 drafted per season. That’s pretty slim pickings.

by Draglikepull on Apr 4, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over the past 20 years, that is.

by Draglikepull on Apr 4, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a list of players who scored more than 20 goals during seasons where they were 23-25.
This is a list of player who have scored 20 goals by the time they were 25 since 1990. 86 have done it at least three times.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, my point was that I think a 1st and a 3rd is fair value for Versteeg, considering he played against 2nd and 3rd pairing D and had time on the PP.
Also, he kinda bugged me.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, my point was that I think a 1st and a 3rd is fair value for Versteeg, considering he played against 2nd and 3rd pairing D and had time on the PP.
Also, he kinda bugged me.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have loved Goligoski from Penguins/Stars Trade. Versteeg + Lebda or Komisarek instead of Neale + nisaknen.

by jeffgm on Apr 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

why the hell would the pens do that?

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or blocked the Wideman shot and then roared past him, walked in alone and buried it.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Kessel’s GA/60 is actually the worst of ALL forwards on the Leafs at 5 on 5 (3.31)… his D does suck unfortunately… particularly when one factors in that he’s in his 5th NHL season.

He’s also played like 400 more minutes than he did in his best offensive season prior to this one, and yet has 6 fewer goals. I’m obviously not prepared to blame Bozak for his less than awesome production.

His Corsi REL QoC and Corsi REL QoT aren’t great, but I just don’t think his numbers are particularly defensible from a defensive standpoint.

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by Steve Burtch on Apr 4, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couple of thoughts here:

2008-2009 PDO: 1057
2010-11 PDO: 980

Also, that 2008-2009 season? His ESGA/60 was 1.73, among the best on the Bruins. This is mostly context.

If you’re saying that Kessel is under-performing at 30 goals, I heartily agree. He’s got time, though.
In terms of his two-way play, I’d like to see his season split; in terms of watching the games, he’s seemed much more responsible in the second half, although winning would tend to instill a confirmation bias.

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by Nirbo on Apr 4, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel ...

How good is he?

I think we won the Kessel deal.

That’s how good.

by PEI Muscle on Apr 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold off on judgment for three or four years, Seguin is a rookie. He’s going to be a good player and we have to see exactly how good before we can truly assess the deal. And then there’s Jared Knight and whatever 1st round bust they draft this year to consider as well.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

also Kessel actually peaking. I mean if he has peaked now or does so in 4 years, who knows

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seguin is the next Daigle

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck that, the next Stefan. Daigle actually won a Masterton.

by samspade on Apr 4, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least we can take solace in the fact that by the time Seguin/Knight/etc. are “impact players” for the Bruins (if they get there), Kessel will have scored 150+ goals for the Leafs

by lucc on Apr 4, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

and then when Kessel retires and they continue to put up goals for the Bruins what will say to console ourselves?

just playing devil’s advocate here.

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by Steve Burtch on Apr 4, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats like your favourite role, isnt it?
lol.
but like birky said, it doesnt matter. as long as kessel has an impact on our team, its all good.

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by mariamS on Apr 4, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a pretty big endorsement.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m rec’ing this.

by samspade on Apr 4, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true. But help us all if Boston wins one first, regardless of Seguin’s play. Won’t even be able to touch the sports section…

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 4, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Gartner is greatest 30 goal scorer

by jeffgm on Apr 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Wendel

Wendel Clark could have been on that list if he hadn’t fought so much and injured himself in the 3rd season.

by Jack rides ducks on Apr 4, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Selanne’s 76 goals as a rookie is mind-boggling. Never to be beater?

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by theninjagreg on Apr 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

At this point I’d be impressed if somebody scored 76 goals period

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only five other players have scored 76 or more goals in a season… period.

I suspect unless there’s a substantial change in rules or schedule length… that record is untouchable.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

BIGGER NETS! THINNER POSTS! GOALIES WITHOUT PADS!!

by Shield on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toskala on every team

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

’cept ours. weve had our turn

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 4, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inflation drives up the price of goals?

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Libya

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Obama

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why I voted for Kodos.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can think of a better way to exchange long protein strands, I’d like to hear it!

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go ahead, throw your vote away!! (my favourite line in that ep.)

by Shield on Apr 4, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

abortions for all!
(boooooo)
alrgit then abortions for none!
(booooo)
hmmm……abortiosn for some, miniature american flags for others!
(yayyyyyyyyy)

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s also an excellent line.

by Shield on Apr 4, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by MrSmithy on Apr 4, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

never. 76 as a rookie is absurd.

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by daoust on Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seguin didn’t do it, but we shouldn’t talk until whoever Boston drafts with our pick is done his rookie year.

by Shield on Apr 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teemu Selanne in general is absurd.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously have you seen what kind of helmet he wears?

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teemu Selanne, 28G, 48A, 18:00 TOI, 40 years old.

Teemu is unstoppable.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fricking insane. It has to be the helmet.

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason he’s going to retire is that he is bored of dominating the NHL… like Scott Niedermayer.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys like Dryden and Niedermayer retiring early because they had nothing left to accomplish: badass or stupid?

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll grant you Dryden, but Niedermayer retired at like 38

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by clrkaitken on Apr 4, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

36

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if you’ve done it all, have enough money to never work again, and have a family to raise, then yeah retirement is a smart choice.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hasn’t won an allan cup yet, so he retired at the right time

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a spengler cup. “hey kids, who wants a trip to switzerland?”

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The idea of Niedermayer in the spengler cup is truly frightening.

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by antrofan on Apr 4, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, why risk long term injury, I mean at that age, even a minor knee or back thing will haunt you for the rest of your life, hell he probably already has aches and pains all over from a life of pro sport, no need to push it

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. If you’re 34 and already won everything it’s probably a lot harder to shrug off those aches.

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by Chemmy on Apr 4, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I shudder when I think how bad Stevie Y’s knees must ache on a damp day, I bet that’s why he went to Tampa

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

“So Steve, why did you take the Tampa job? Looking for a new career challenge? Was it the opportunity of having a Stamkos on your team? Looking to win a cup with a different organization for the first time in your career?”
“No actually, the warm weather is good for my knees”

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 4, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

tampa

isn’t particularly dry… he should’ve investigated working in Phoenix.

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by Steve Burtch on Apr 4, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he still had an Olympic Gold to win.

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by AM18 on Apr 4, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

So not exactly retiring in his prime.

Ultimately it’s up to these guys to decide how long they want to stick around.

Niedermayer’s made enough money, won everything there is to win, and pretty much went out winning a Gold Medal on home soil. I can totally respect his decision to walk away at that point in time.

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by clrkaitken on Apr 4, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in his prime? He easily had at least four good years left in him if you compare him with players like Pronger and Lidstrom.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't playing like the Neidermeyer of old in his final season, and everyone saw it.

Likely also wanted to be remembered as a great player, not as a guy who just didn’t know when to quit while he was ahead.

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by nhlcheapshot on Apr 4, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. He ONLY scored 48 points that final season for a non-playoff team. That’s like… 24 points for the average offensive defensemen.

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, all in all I don’t blame him for quitting ahead, but if he wanted to play he definitely still could.

And if Sakic hadn’t have wrecked his hand in a snowblower (seriously can’t he just pay someone to do that for him?) he probably would’ve played at least a year more.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

everything i’ve read about dryden, i come to the conclusion he liked hockey, but it wasn’t the eb all and end all.

He’s accomplished so much, and I can only wonder if he would have been so much better if hockey was 100% for him.

But, he played as long as he wanted and moved on, so good for him.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s like Kovalev, Its kinda spooky to think about how good he could be if he had the work ethic of a 4th liner fighting for a job, or say sidney crosby

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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 4, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Chuck Norris of hockey?

by spuck on Apr 4, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck, Kuba looked like me on that play.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

hah, thats what i said when it happened

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by Matt_Roberts on Apr 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We usually just leave it at the 1st two words you said there

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by Adnan on Apr 4, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was awful. I watched it 15 times and still can’t believe what I am seeing.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he just gave up, he knew he was done and quit

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by sportsfan2 on Apr 4, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

… and grin from ear to ear.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love suites. all you can eat/drink, never get up to let someone go down the aisle, usually a good view of the ice and a more comfortable place to spend intermission.

that and you can stand at the edge of the box and pretend you own the team and lord over those sitting below.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

Yes. After one great Reimer save I stood up on the railing, ripped off my jersey, revealed my Optimus Reim jersey, and pointed at my awesomeness.

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by PPP on Apr 4, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never been in one for an NHL game, so i would assume they are much better than at an OHL game.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was in a box in New Jersey for a Devils-Sabres snoozefest. Most of the people there were watching the Rangers game on TV.

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by SkinnyFish on Apr 4, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t blame them. I could barely watch that game (“that game” applies to about 75% of Devils-Sabres games since the lockout.)

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by Ubiquitous on Apr 4, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha, yeah it’s interesting to see what people are watching in boxes. i’ve seen a lot of kids shows on there for those who couldn’t get babysitters.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drank like 15 bottles of Budweiser and tried to talk to people in other boxes. It was so quiet.

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by Chemmy on Apr 4, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder, how many goals Kessel would score if Crosby was his center?

I’m guessing 81 including his invisible stretches.

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by Frag on Apr 4, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

the universe would implode due to neither of those players are allowed to have the proper linemates.

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gah fuck forgot a title, sorry

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a lot of goals.

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by Frag on Apr 4, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

8?

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by elseldo on Apr 4, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby+Kessel…………….DROOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

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by LeafFan1989 on Apr 4, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never even happens in my dreams, the chances are THAT LOW

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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 4, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby plays a crazy two-way game. If you have them both, split them up and use Kessel for prime scoring minutes / zone starts etc.

Remember the 09v Final? Crosby drew Lidstrom and Zetterberg, Stall played checker, and Geno went through the rest of the Red Wings like a hot knife through butter.

by samspade on Apr 4, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile Hossa was crying in a corner.

At least that’s how I remember it.

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by T is for Truculence on Apr 4, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

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by Leafer87 on Apr 4, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

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by Leafer87 on Apr 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

phil kessel is so great that his middle name is ‘fucking’

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by daoust on Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

If you don’t like watching Philthy Phillip fly down the wing and fire snappers past goalies victims, you don’t enjoy hockey.

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously.

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by daoust on Apr 4, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds about right!

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by Sergei Puckizin on Apr 4, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well… that is already on my business card… but I suppose I could relinquish the title.

by Learn2Leaf on Apr 4, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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