Habs at Leafs: A Season Ends But This is The Beginning
by Chemmy on Apr 9, 2011 1:03 PM EDT
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Win or lose the Toronto Maple Leafs will finish their season tonight. They enter with 85 points in 81 games played and a second half run that made fans forget about their dismal first half play. A win tonight means that Boston would receive either the 10th or 11th pick overall in the draft to finish compensating them for Phil Kessel.
The season series between these clubs has Toronto winning 3 games to 2. If the Leafs win tonight they'll have won the season series against every team in the Northeast. Montreal is tied with Buffalo in the standings now, a win (and a Buffalo L or OTL) sees them face Boston while a loss will send them to Pennsylvania to face either the Flyers or the Penguins.
Matt Frattin has signed with the Leafs who have also called up Joe Colborne, acquired from Boston in the Kaberle trade. Both youngsters will make their debuts; Colborne between Joffrey Lupul and Phil Kessel, Frattin next to Tyler Bozak and Nazem Kadri.
A win would be beautiful but take a moment tonight and think about how different the roster is from two years ago. At 29 years old Mike Komisarek is the oldest player under contract for the Leafs next season. This is a young team with upside. This is a rebuild.
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Go Leafs Go!
Really looking forward to seeing if Colborne will continue to be the guy in the dirty spots like he has been on the marlies.
Will Freight-Train-Fratten run anyone over tonight?
Is there anyone tall enough on the Habs for Aulie to fight? Except for the SS Hal Gill?
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Gill
is the only one that springs to mind. Hamrlik is pretty big…. and old.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Gill
has like 35 pounds on Aulie though… so that isn’t entirely even.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
subban
is a lot bigger than him… I don’t think that would end well.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
ok no he isn't
I for some reason thought Subban was like 6’3"
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Maybe on skates.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Frattin
is like 1 inch shorter and 20 lbs lighter… so yeah… Subban is still bigger.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
But can he do this?
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 9, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So epic. Is that the hit that got him suspended?
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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
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"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
yes
he was suspended for it I believe… or it was another one… but yeah… it’s a bit of a charge he leaves his feet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
An incredibly awesome and fierce charge!
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Frattin lives in a world where everyone else is moving in slow motion.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
he's actually not that fast
that’s just two guys moving quickly and he leaves his feet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
it's sort of like
a darcy tucker hit… except Frattin is bigger than Tucker.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
What's not to be excited about?
Kuli Grabbo MacA
Lupul Colborne Kessel
Kadri Bozak Frattin
Aulie Phanuef
Gunnarsson Schenn
Reimer
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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica
This is awesomeness
I have been out of the loop for 2 days, and the Frattin signing and Colborne promotion make me smile.
So excited to see them destroy Les Habitants tonight.
I would like us to exit on a high note.
Also… I love leaf.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I may have not stated this clearly enough yet so far this season but
I DO NOT WANT BURKE TO SIGN ANY SIGNIFICANT FREE AGENTS THIS OFF SEASON.
I don’t give 2 shits about how horrible people think our top lines are. I would like to keep developing our kids into top line talent, and that won’t happen if we clog it up with old farts that are declining in production.
Our top 6 forwards are all under 28, our top 4 D are all under 27, our starting goalie is under 23… let’s leave it that way please.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
you wouldn’t want someone to stare w/ reimer? is gustavsson’s confidence shot?
i agree with forwards. just leave it as-is. develop. that is, as long as colborne works out, can’t see why he wont with some experience behind him.
I would
give Gustavsson a shot at the backup role… I think he can handle it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I also
think Rynnas and Scrivens need to play in the AHL… adding another goalie fucks with that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
plus
who do you add as a “reliable” backup that is affordable?
I’m not in favour of adding Bryzgalov or Vokoun… too expensive.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
the only player
and I’ve been thinking about this more and more, that I would consider adding, is Jason Spezza… which sounds weird I know… but I don’t know if it’s a bad plan.
I just think we’d have to give up too much to get him… so I’m not really promoting the idea.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
or Paul Stastny
but same problem… too expensive.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Statsny, if we could get him, would be worth his cost.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
if we are chasing young good centers, go after Jordan staal, even though I hate him
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
thunder bay/ staal connection, lets leave it at that
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, any of the “real” staals would be a fantastic pick up
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
he gets all the ginger genes and the shittiest hockey genes
talk about the short end of the stick
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He would instantly go from “a great player who is a victim of Pittsburgh’s depth” to “an average player suffering from too much ice time.” It’d be such an about face, the media would get whiplash.
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he does have the potential to be an average first line center who excels at crushing the other teams best players defensively
his ceiling is Kessler
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be ok with that also
but do you see Pittsburgh moving him with the injury history of their top 3 forwards in recent years? I don’t. Between Crosby’s concussion, Malkin’s injury woes, and Staal’s foot problems… I think they hold on to all 3 for a while yet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They seem to be quite satisfied with being deep at C. Who would have guessed they’d lose both top line C’s this year, sheesh.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
They kept saying once both were healthy Malkin would move to Staal’s wing. They were tired of Malkin’s shitty F/O record
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and his atrocious Defensive Game
p.s. Kulemin is a better all around hockey player than Malkin who is a lazy bum on D.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
staal himself has quite the injury history, so I don’t think that’s the issue
the issue is what pitts would want back, frankly I have no idea what that is outside of scoring wingers that can play now
a signed macarthur? kadri?
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I mentioned
all 3 of their C’s including Staal… so yes I’m aware of this.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
they don't need wingers
Neal, Kunitz, Kennedy, … they’re fine when they’re healthy really.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
“first line” wingers I should say
but what else do they “need” other than health?
maybe a young future top 4 defender
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kennedy is a good 3rd liner. Not top end. They have Kunitz, Neal and Tangradi who is coming along. They could still use one more. A G prospect would also be sought after I believe.
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umm
how the hell?
Kennedy (24 years old): 20 G, 44 Pts, 0.56 ppg
Tangradi (21 years old): 1 G, 2 Pts, 0.14 ppg.
Players in the last 3 years under the age of 25 to post numbers like Kennedy include:
Jordan Staal, David Bolland, David Perron, Steve Downie, Matt D’Agostini, Blake Comeau, Andrei Kostitsyn, James Neal, Nicolas Bergfors, Blake Wheeler, Kris Versteeg, Artem Anisimov, Evander Kane, Jamie Benn, Brad Marchand, Devin Setoguchi, Kyle Okposo, James Van Reimsdyk
I think you might be selling Kennedy a little bit short with the “good 3rd liner” tag.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
his numbers
are 2nd liner numbers.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
As for Tangradi?
18 goals and 33 points in 42 AHL games… as a 21 year old. Dustin Jeffrey had a better season as a prospect this year than he did and he’s only 22.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Compare Tangradi
to say… Caputi?
at the age of 20 also on Wilkes Barre Scranton he had 23 goals and 47 points in 54 games.
Tangradi was 20 that same year on the same team and he had 17 goals and 39 points in 65 games.
He’s been a less productive prospect than Luca Caputi so far… I wouldn’t call him a solid winger at this point.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
really
all he’s done is be decent in the AHL, and he’s a big body… he’ll probably develop into an NHL’er eventually, but he’s not a guaranteed top 6 talent yet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
i know, I just ment that if all three of them have injury issues, then moving one because of the other two having injury issues probably isnt an issue
issue
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I would figure macarthur +…although I have no idea what the plus would be. I could see him being a good depth player for the pens
elephant shell
probably
a blacker or gardiner type D man… to replace what they gave up in Goligoski…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
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Staal has one year of injury history. This year. Before that he was an iron man. KNown for it in fact.
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his broken foot was worryingly bad
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Injury history?
He’s had the tendon (and an infection relating to it) and the hand.. Up until this season he missed one game in his NHL career.
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I’d say the Pens are more likely to trade Geno than Staal.
Geno’s got more of a scoring touch and would fetch a higher value, it’s just a feeling
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Malkin to the Kings
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Malkin
+ Kopitar? god the Kings would be ridiculous if that happened.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
The Pens
would totally expect Schenn in return.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I was mostly joking, Bruce Garrioch once had said “Malkin to the Kings” was all but done. And nothing ever happened. He lost a lot of credibility with that one.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
he never had any
so I’m not sure this is possible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
they’d probably try, but the price tag (both monetary and trade wise) would be astronomical
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
his defensive game would suck… but yeah his offense isn’t up to par.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
given first line ice time with kessel and say, a healthy Lupul I could see him being a 25-30 guy
pretty easily
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sold on that
personally.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
he’d be money on the leafs PP standing in front of the net, big, hard to move, mean, quick hands, enough of a threat to draw a defender and keep the guy high worried
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Colborne
right? that’s who you’re talking about? DON’T WANT TO ADD SIGNIFICANT OUTSIDE PLAYERS HERE.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
heh, I know, i’m just saying if we ARE going to use assets to chase a young center than that is who I would target
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t pass on good things on the assumption that prospects will succeed.
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two things
1. Jordan Staal isn’t available right now…
2. He’d cost more than just Joe Colborne.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
He still hasn’t shown his offensive upside. I was promoting him earlier and people shut me down with some good arguments. Of course as a number 2 C? Beauty
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he has 11 goals and 30 points in 41 games this year, coming off a broken hand and very badly broken foot
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking along the lines of a #1 elite C everyone seems to want. Did you see the end of my post?
“number 2 C? Beauty”
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given first line mins and a first line winger or two and a full season he can perform like a first line center, IE make it into the top 30 for scoring for centers while shutting the other teams top line the fuck down
right now the 30th best center in the NHL statistically is Lecavalier with 52 points
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A rare 5 Burtch’ed good job.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Apr 9, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s been pretty established that Leafs aren’t signing Bryz due to some Allaire history.
I don’t know if Burke would target Vokoun anyway. He’s been going on lately about he’s comfortable with Reimer as #1 next year…
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
isnt he tied up for another year since he didn’t report to the islanders? or am i getting my goalies mixed up?
He’s only tied up if the Isles ask the NHL to toll his contract, which they may or may not do in the offseason. And I hope they do.
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I don't agree with the conecpt
That adding a great goal tender CAN be too expensive. I basically believe that your F corps and D corps and Gs are all roughly equal value. There are only 2 goalies. If its worth over spending ANYWHERE, its on a G. A G will win you more games than any other individual player.
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Actually let me clarify
I don’t agree it can be too expensive, IF you are getting quality. (ie Bryz or Vokoun)
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Goalies are important
but they aren’t more important than your most important offensive or defensive players.
They certainly aren’t equivalent to your entire D or F.
Also, there aren’t enough of them to ensure that you’re improving your team drastically by adding the available ones.
1. Reimer is at a solid spot right now… no need to assume he’s illegitimate at this point.
2. If you overpay on Bryzgalov or Vokoun and they pancake (as unlikely as that is) I don’t see why we spent the money on an aging vet.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I can't agree with this (at all)
Goalies are important but they aren’t more important than your most important offensive or defensive players.
They are substantially MORE important
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I’m still worried about a regression in production from the MGK line next year, but I think that is just nerves fucking with me. I don’t see Kuli dropping off, but maybe Grabbo/ MacA. Maybe/ hopefully this is just all the hater’s influence.
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Of the 3
the only one I think people generally have serious reservations about is MacArthur because they think he’s doing the contract year bump thing (although that makes no sense in light of his previous season)…
Seriously though, they are fine as long as they continue to get minutes. If their minutes drop off because we add a top line C to Kessel’s line? Then they might drop a bit… but that isn’t their fault.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I would go so far as to say
It makes no sense.
I would say his has improved drastically at 25, which is a tad late and there is a reasonable explanation (increased minutes, consistent line mates), but it still could be him have a career year.
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if anything, kulie is going to get better. the guy is an absolute 3-zone machine. how he “flies under the radar” is beyond me. kid is awesome.
macT is still a mystery in my books. hopefully he resigns for something not-too-spendy but also gets rewarded for a crazy showing this year.
grabbo is grabbo – a fruit killer
Kule will regress some at least in shooting that is almost guaranteed. His SH% is just too high. But we are really just (hopefully) talking a 25 G season.
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Except
if he shoots more then that compensates for decreased percentages… so in the end he’s likely still a 30 goal player.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I agree with Burtch...
As this season has wore on, I don’t think signing someone like Brad Richards is really a positive for this team. Signing Brad Richards would be like adding the final piece to make a team go from playoff contender to (Stanley Cup) contender.
It doesn’t feel like this is the right move at this time.
All the talent in the pipeline would be well-served to get game experience. The only thing I would advocate, is letting go of Komi and/or Lebda, and then maybe signing a D-man. Otherwise, I think this team looks pretty good going into next year — just the way it is.
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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Apr 9, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It's okay, I'm still on team Richards.
HOLDING STRONG. I just don’t think Burke will offer him what he wants/can get via UFA.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
he's too old
he has a concussion history now… he’s a great player… but he’s going to cost too much for too long a term.
It’s just not the right move for the team.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm very okay being the only one still interested in him.
Go RICHARDS
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Yes there's the age, concussion, and only premier UFA thing
but as a PLAYER, damn is he good. He may get overhyped because he’s the only big name out there, but he really is damn damn good.
http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=35725
Last 6 years point production:
05/06: 1.11 ppg
06/07: 0.85 ppg
07/08: 0.84 ppg
08/09: 0.86 ppg
09/10: 1.14 ppg
10/11: 1.06 ppg
As a reference, our top scorers Kessel and MacArthur are 0.78 and 0.77 ppg respectively.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
No question, Richards is sick. The thought of him and Kessel together does get me a little tingly in my area.
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And I do get all the arguments against it – he’s 31, just had a concussion, will get a huge contract that might not be worth his cap hit, etc.
But again, it’s the Kovalchuk argument from last summer. How often do you get to add a player of his calibre for only cash and cap hit, and no other assets?
I’ll save my pro-Richards bias for the offseason though.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
yes
and Kovalchuk’s production dropped…and the team can’t afford to bring back it’s top players and is in decline long term as a result. The Kovalchuk signing was fucking dumb.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
the odds
of Kovalchuk ever hitting 50 goals again are not significantly high. He’s good, and he could do it with a full year with Parise and Zajac, but I don’t EXPECT it of him.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
It’s scary how off the rails NJ’s season went. Adding Parise back in next year puts them right back into contender status. So weird.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
disagree
they won’t get top end goaltending from Brouder and Hedberg next year… they didn’t this year… until they fix that they aren’t improving.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They’ve got some great Fwds, mediocre defense, and have been surviving on HOF goaltending for a long time.
Post-Brodeur era for the Devils is going to be a wake-up call. I wonder if they’ll consider moving a top prospect for one of the highly-rated young goaltenders out there. (Schneider, etc.)
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
they could move Parise
if they really want to go that route. They’d get a pretty solid return frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
he was never signed to begin with, he was a UFA, that they just traded a bunch of shit for, losing him as a rental would have been horrible for the organization
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
By all accounts they are going to do everything they can to re-sign him as they still consider themselves a stone throw away from another Cup contension.
Can’t say I blame them. I’d run over a box of puppies with my car for Parise.
Sorry for the awful imagery, but I’m that serious. Serious man-crush on Parise.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
They have to salary dump roloston and salvador or another dman to sign parise and the other rfa/roster spots
I admit this
but… he’s going to get max money, he’s 30 years old… I just don’t think it’s much different from trading for Spezza… who is only 27 and has the following years:
05-06: 1.32
06-07: 1.30
07-08: 1.21
08-09: 0.89
09-10: 0.95
01-11: 0.92
Spezza in top shape with good linemates is superior offensively to Richards. He’s only under contract for another 4 years with a $7 mill cap hit per season… so through the age of 31… Richards is ALREADY 30… I just think Spezza makes more sense for the money.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
True
If they were both UFAs at the same time, Spezza might be a better idea than Richards.
But they’re not… and one would cost a lot in picks/prospects/players, while the other is only cash and cap hit.
Oh well, July 1 is a long way away, and it sounds like NYR is going to turn this into a bidding war which sucks.
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With Melnyk's
Be a contender again quickly comments, I don’t think they are interested in moving him.
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the sens will not move spezza unless they get another top 3 pick or young 1st line center back
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If they draft one
they could.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
that’s how they are trying to get the number 2 center they need so badly
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What about
Da Costa?
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
possible, but he has yet to prove anything yet, and frankly i think he’ll be a winger soon enough
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah wouldn't shock me
he’s kinda undersized.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
and Butler
has looked pretty great… but he’s a wing I guess?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
yup, plus they have no real shut down forwards with kelly gone
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Butler has looked great for the Sens, it sucks we missed out on him.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
we didn't really miss out
we only have so many spots, and Burke keeps looking for size… Butler is relatively small.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
6' and 180 lbs
skilled but small.
Da Costa 5’11" 180 lbs.
We aren’t looking for more midgets up front.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Fuck the Habs.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Burke went after both, to be frank, but the sens just out bid him
the only player i can see burke ignoring out of sheer size was miele
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
Burke could offer them a significant role on the team though… that’s perhaps also a key factor.
He might be more prepared to do that for a kid with size.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
wtih dacosta,no, probably not, but butler would have gotten a decent shot
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
also
Spezza is a home town kid, not that this matters… I just think the relatively short term upshot will put some energy in Spezza’s game… and while I admit the trade wouldn’t be free… we could probably get Spezza for some of our D prospects and possibly one of Rynnas or Scrivens… and maybe one of
our top 6 forwards?
Not seriously promoting it, I just don’t see the huge advantage in signing Richards to a 7 or 8 year deal for max money.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
If we were going to give up assets for a top line C
I’m more on the Stastny bandwagon.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Would probs take less to land Spezza.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this
is exactly my point… he’s NOT as expensive as Stastny, for all the reasons listed previously… and btw… Stastny isn’t as productive as Spezza… at all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Stastny's production
06-07: 0.95 in 82 gp
07-08: 1.05 in 66 gp
08-09: 0.80 in 45 gp
09-10: 0.98 in 81 gp
10-11: 0.77 in 74 gp
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
The Leafs would likely get more productive years out of Stastny, in the 2 year age difference. Spezza also played with Alfredsson.
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Yea it’s not like we don’t have an elite winger who needs a competent C or anything……
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and he'd
be playing with Kessel… how is this a huge shift?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I don’t think Stastny was playing with any player of Alfredsson’s caliber.
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I think
you’d be wrong… but that’s just me I guess?
Those guys Milan Hejduk and Ryan Smyth are complete stiffs huh? (2007-08 his best season).
Or was it 2008-09? when he played 47% of his shifts with Hejduk and Smyth again?
Or was it last year with Chris Stewart and Wojtek Wolski?
I mean it’s not like those guys are complete shit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They both benefitted from some great linemates, but are both ~ppg centres.
Regardless, I’d take either, I just think Burke would prefer to land Stastny (or thinks he has a better chance).
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he's american
that swings it a tad because of his working history with Burke, Poulin, and Wilson probably.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
also
Stastny was playing with umm… Hejduk? so yeah… wtf?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Hejduk v Alfredsson. I know who I would want on my line.
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He played time with Chris Stewart and T.J. Galiardi.
Stewart put up 28 goals and 36 assists in 2009-2010.
Not a schlub.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
No, definitely not a shlub. They’ve both had great linemates, and they’ve been members of a top line.
But Spezza’s best years also came with Heatley, and if you said “Spezza with Alfredsson and Heatley” or “Stastny with Hejduk and Stewart”, I would say that the former likely benefited from his linemates a bit more.
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perhaps
except he had the highest ppg totals of any of the 3 on the line, just like Stastny.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I just think
if we’re arguing apples to apples here… which we aren’t based on all we’ve been saying… I don’t think there’s a huge distinction in their actual skill level, and beyond that we’re talking term, and cost to obtain.
I don’t think Spezza would cost as much to obtain as Stastny.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Okay. I do. I think we’ll probably have to leave it at that. Also, if we did acquire him, you would need to draw the chemical bath necessary to remove Sens stink of that magnitude.
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yeah
as I’ve said, I’m not really advocating for Spezza… he annoys me personally.
But I think Stastny will cost too much also.
I’d rather just try and develop Colborne, Kadri, McKegg, Nichol etc.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Olden
heck Bozak even… who else?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I agree with you. But if Burke does decide he wants to look for a C elsewhere the difference between Spezza and Stastny is mostly the cost to acquire them.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It concerns me going forwards without another player with “elite” upside lined up. I’d like just one more.
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I am unclear
why we can’t add these types of players through the draft… and I think we’ve got some top end talent right now in Colborne, Gardiner, and Blacker personally.
McKegg also has some great upside, as does Nicholl… I think the WJC next year will be very interesting.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Some prospects come out of nowhere fast.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Colborne, Gardiner and Blacker, sure, I’m right there with you. But when it comes to forwards, I would like to have just one more player added in from the top to push people down.
Developing players in the NHL with few (if any) backups: it just feels like climbing without a harness.
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ok well
I think Kadri and Colborne help push things a tad… I think in a year or so McKegg and Nicholl and Ross will be in there… we still have the likes of D. Mitchell developing… I don’t think we’re that far away from having a decent playoff style team.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
There’s a part of me that seriously worries how long we will benefit from Grabbo playing his style of game. I mean, he does play in high-traffic zones a lot, plays down the middle and takes hits well. As of right now, if Colborne is taking the Kessel-line slot, I’m worried about not having anyone to fill a need we may see in as short as 3 years.
Fortunately, you’re right, we have good time to fill that need. But I’d hate for us to spend three drafts looking for a top-line C and then more time waiting for that player to develop.
We’re really close. I like that any time I try to express this point, I have a certain amount of “it’s probably nothing to worry about, but…”
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sincerely
concerned over what other teams a player has played for… it’s an illogical concern to have if you want the best team possible.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I wonder what it’s like for players to cross rivalry lines, I can’t imagine it’s as easy as we think, I mean Spezza’s been a senator his whole career, leaf hate should be engrained in him by now
obviously they should be professional about it but I’m just trynna imagine what it would be like for me
elephant shell
He’s from Mississauga so he could be a severely repressed Leaf fan. I’d never want him here because he’s just too synonymous with the Sens. I’d never be able to fully cheer for a divisional rival of that magnitude, unlike how we’ve fully embraced Kessel.
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exactly
if he led us to a Cup? Nobody would complain.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
plus
how sweet would it be to rub in the Sens fans faces that he won it with the Leafs and not in Ottawa?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
(I’m not really either)
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT HEJDUK SCORED 50 GOALS ONCE A LONG TIME AGO
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, Spezza just has the Sens stink all over him.
You should do a post comparing them without showing who is who.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I should...
or you could do it… I have midterm marking to do and a course to finish by Thursday!
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I have stuff to do as well.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
right
but we can’t “let go” of Komi or Lebda. They’re under contract for more years… and Komi has a NMC, and Lebda’s unlikely to get bounced since there’s only 1 year remaining and burke is loyal to his free agent signings.
He may not play much as the 7th or 8th d man, but who knows.
a lot of this will be settled in camp next year, I think Holzer and Mikus and Blacker and Gardiner all get a shot at making the team out of camp… I doubt Lebda is in the lineup, so he may get dropped for like a 7th rounder or something.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I was unaware...
of the contract situations, was more a generalization (that those are two that I wouldn’t be sad to see move onto other teams). Hopefully, they’ll play much better wherever they end up (if they do in fact get traded).
It’d be nice to see some of those young guys (Holzer, et al.) get a really good chance next fall.
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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Apr 9, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lashoff should get a chance at 6/7 as well. Mikus and Holzer definitely have an edge of Gardiner and Blacker. Although the latter two’s puck moving abilities would be nice to have asap.
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I think someone said it yesterday, but Lashoff has mildly impressed me. Totally game for giving him a shot at 6/7, I think there’s some upside there.
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agreed
former 1st rounder and he’s only 25? No worries on giving him more of a shot… he’s looked ok… and he was one of the best D men on the Marlies all year.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm in favour of anything
that prevents Burke from wasting our cap space.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I think this is all about
maintaining flexibility… you fill holes when you can… if you can upgrade long term and it makes sense… but adding older UFA D men? I don’t see that improving us a lot next year… or in 2 or 3 for that matter.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
like
unless we’re talking Shea Weber… or something like that… I would be FINE with him trying to ink Weber.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
if Shea Weber
is pushing Aulie or Gunnarsson down the depth chart? yeah I don’t have a problem with that at all.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I’d be fine with Weber physically pushing Lashoff all the way to Kanata if it meant signing him
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If he spent it all on Richards he wouldn’t have anymore to spend!
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I’ve gone from pro-Richards to completely anti-Richards. He’s been off since he came back from injury, and I think he’s the wrong age for this group now. And he’ll cost too much. And he’s not Stastny.
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When the Richards rumours first started I was up for it. Now I agree with staying patient with what we got(as long as its not our goaltending again), and saving the caphit.
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by Redonred on Apr 9, 2011 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
under 7 mill for 3-4 years? sure
much more than that? no thankee
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Richards go
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
I’m still with you for now
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And I don’t see anyway in which Burke doesn’t sign at least 1 more Dman this summer. Be it a 3/4 or a 5/6th dman, Burke is getting one. Or bringing up Finger.
Dear God I hope he sends Lebda down.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
yeah
I’ve thought about this also… but he’s getting older, and missing half the season due to injury can’t help him a lot…. we’ll see in camp.
But I see no reason to pay MORE money on UFA D men.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Burke did this as one of the “loyalty” moves.
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Loyalty?
It seems that Richards would be just as happy in Tampa Bay…?
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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Apr 9, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
“Bring back Finger has my vote.”
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If the me from 12 months ago were reading these comments I’d be confused as shit to the “bring back Finger” argument.
“Could our D have gotten that bad in 12 months????”
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
He has
a crapload of good young D in the system… he did that by adding Aulie and Phaneuf, and Gysbers, and Mikus, and Holzer, and Gunnarsson, and Gardiner, and Blacker, and MacWilliam (from ND is another coming along)… I just see no reason to sign another blue liner.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Young D yes
But Phaneuf, Schenn, Aulie, Gunnar, Komi… we need another 6/7 or 3/4 and push one of our youngin’s down.
We have youth in the system, but I don’t trust them to handle 16-20 minutes a night yet (Gardiner, Blacker, etc.)
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Why do you need
to push down our 6/7 by adding anything other than a 6/7?
Who would you push out of our top 4? I’m not pushing Phaneuf, Schenn, Aulie, or Gunnarsson down…
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Adding a kid
that will play 12-15 minutes a night a la Lebda isn’t a bad thing.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yup yup!
Those 4 guys have played really well the last little bit since being the Leafs Top 4 d-men. No need to push them anywhere. They’re good! :-)
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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Apr 9, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and very young
odds are they only get better.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Aulie has looked over his head sometimes playing 25+ minutes a night. Just saying.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Don’t worry steve, i doubt there WILL be any significant free agents this off season.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Apr 9, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
GO LEAFS GO
I’m actually pretty sad that tonight is our last game…October seriously cannot come fast enough
GO LEAFS GO
I’m actually looking forward to the IIHF WCs this year
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I always
look forward to it… I’ll post about it when I get the chance also.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
unfortunately
for the last 6 years, it’s turned into Leafs watch… should be solid representation over there again.
Gustavsson, Gunnarsson, Holzer, possibly Mikus, Mueller, Maybe Bozak, Kessel, Phaneuf, Aulie, Schenn?
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Reimer?
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yeah
him too.. and Scrivens or Rynnas possibly?
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Sorry for the unrelated post but I didn't see a CC
I just got a my first Smart phone and was wondering how much of a drain SB Nation is on data. I assume game threads/FTBs would run me dry.
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the update
is annoying… as is the posting I find…
but that’s just me… I use a BB torch, don’t know how it is with iphone’s
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No idea. If I’m on my iPhone and on this site, I’m usually in my house and using my wireless network.
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that would be the other thing
it doesn’t drain if you’re on WiFi… but when I’m at home I’m just on my netbook so it doesn’t affect me.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Regarding Spezza: Do people want him, would the price be too high? How high is too high?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
At first, I didn’t know where this was going. Then, I was pleasantly surprised.
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This is what I thought the first link would be.
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I think the price would be too high, especially when it’s another divisional rival. Also, Spezza’s last two seasons will be 63 GP this year, 60 GP the year before.
Or, to put it another way: Any package that could get Spezza could probably get Stastny. 2 years younger, more expensive, sure, but better health and comparable point production. There’s no way I’d take Spezza over Stastny, and I think the same could be true for a number of other players in the league.
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Why
would you argue that Spezza’s injury history and price tag makes him worth less than Stastny right after saying the same package would get you both players… this makes absolutely zero sense.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
player A
is more expensive and worse than player B from a future worth standpoint… but I could get them for equivalent amounts.
That’s not logical…. sorry.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Stastny
isn’t more expensive… his cap hit is $1 mill lower than Spezza.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yeah, I was about to highlight this in my response to your first post.
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Based on how the franchise values those players. The question isn’t “what’s fair market value,” it’s “what would I need to get the player out of his current team?” I think that while Stastny is more valuable, he’s also more expendable to Colorado than Spezza is.
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I don't
there’s numerous rumours about Spezza being on the block so Ottawa can continue to rebuild.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They’d want picks as well, which we have.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I’d love to see any of those. I was under the impression that Murray was very opposed to trading Spezza.
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I’d think Spezza would be a solid piece to hold onto during a rebuild.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
He is, but he’s also the only quality player they can use to get assets. Everyone else is either old and busted or Chris Phillips.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s crazy. Sens are just starting their re-build the Aves aren’t that far off.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
the idea that Stastny is expendable was sort of disproven by the trading deadline wasn’t it? If he was “affordable” why didn’t they move him?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
also
a $6 mill cap hit for a guy who has 1 season at over a ppg doesn’t make much sense to me.
Spezza has been around 1.30 ppg on 3 occasions.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
They could’ve wanted more last minute, and had someone balked. It’s not conclusive of anything. Stastny’s considerably older than the “foundation” of Colorado going forwards (being Duchene, Johnson, and at this point, Pickard)
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My argument
isn’t that we should actually bring in Spezza… I’m just saying considering he’s only signed for 4 more years at a $7 mill cap hit, and his production is actually better… why would we bring in Richards?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
he's younger
he doesn’t have a concussion history…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Right, just had me thinking. Seems like the Sens would move him for picks, shit look what they got for Heatley, Murray is an idiot.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He did, but Burke got more value for Kaberle and using your analogy Burke’s hand were ripped off and thrown out the window.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the skill of the GM has more to do with it than anything.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs lineup tonight won’t have a single player over the age of 29.
Think about how ridiculous that is for a second. Has that ever happened before?
Even teams in full-on youth movements seem to have one or two vets hanging around…
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A decade. That’s how far the rebuild has been set back because of Kessel.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
If only our future was as bright as the Senators’.
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OK so NYR beats NJ 5-2
Carolina has to beat TBL to get into 8th. Man I wish our 82nd game was a life or death playoff scenario.
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Marlies up 1-0
Aaron Voros. Dear God I hope we don’t re-sign him.
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who should the leafs resign from ufa/rfa marlies roster?
voros/zigo/scriven/irwin/caputi/richmond/scott/hamilton/foster….
not Voros
not Irwin
I’m ok with Hamilton and Foster for vet leadership
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
zigomanis too
probably
Scott is still young, as is Caputi… Richmond is perhaps useful on the blue line.
Scrivens is coming back for sure.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm also okay with Crabb being re-signed and left on the Marlies.... injury callup only.
Can’t complain about his play but he’s probably playing as good as he ever will, and if we ever want to be more than mediocre we need higher end players.
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I still haven't gotten over
how good Richmond looked during the preseason. Obviously he wasn’t playing the best competition but still, really good hands for a D-man. I really thought he’d get a callup after beauch/kabs were moved
elephant shell
he's
a former 2nd rounder… he’s not exactly chopped liver. He’s also only 26
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
he's played
brief parts of 4 years in the NHL with carolina and chicago… but in 49 NHL games he only has 3 assists and no goals… so his offensive game disappeared? I dunno.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'm sure we'll get into a Marlies RFA/SPC debate later on in the summer but...
Personally I would re-sign:
Scrivens
Caputi
Hanson (some ppl might debate this one)
Scott
Zigomanis (i’d make him captain and let Foster go… but I don’t think there’s a chance that will happen)
Let go:
Foster (as I said above, he’s their captain so he’s likely going nowhere)
Voros
Brunnstrom
Richmond
Hamilton (debatable)
Irwin
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
anyone else
getting technical difficulties for the Marlies game?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Boston
just scored again… 3-1 over the sens… Anderson? not so sure that was a good signing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
McElhinney is in net.
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And Peverly waltzed through the slot, with a ton of time and space. I’m no McElhinney fan, but that rests on his D a lot more than him.
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Recently re-signed Chris Phillips was responsible for that one.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way, their team is brutal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't catch
the goaltender… makes more sense now.
And yes Peverley waltzed through there.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Anderson has been .939 since signing with the Sens.
I think he’s been a great signing for them. I’m going to miss Elliott.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
He’s been a great trade for them. But that upcoming contract is rough.
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Right the last thing they need is .910 sv% they’ll finish 24th every year.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
he's been great
for what? 20 games at most?
Not a great signing at all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
His season
change from last one to this one should speak to his drop off possibilities.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
i hope he plays well often enough to keep the sens out of the lotto every year, but thats it
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=42354
Before Colorado he had several damn good seasons as a backup, putting up .931, .935, .924
Then .917 with COL, then really shit the bed this year.
Now has been .939 for the last 20 games. I guess it’s too early to say one way or the other, but I wouldn’t be disappointed if i was a Sens fan. Unless I was one who wanted to tank for #1.
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he's a career
.913 SV%, and he has a .913 SV% this season after his solid run with Ottawa.
I don’t think signing a .913 goalie at the age of 29 for another 4 years makes a lot of sense… particularly at $3.5 mill a year cap hit? But that’s just me.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Especially when you’re re-building.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The term is a bit long, but I think that’s the deal that he wanted from COL that they refused to sign him…. one of the reasons he was dealt I think.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Looks at Colorado’s roster, looks at Sens roster.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
also
quoting a season as .931 when the guy only plays in 5 freaking games doesn’t make a lot of sense.
and in the .935 season, he only played in 17 games. Small sample size leaps to mind.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I just don't think
.939 is remotely sustainable… and there’s no way Ottawa should anticipate that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Obviously
if you think .939 is sustainable you don’t get a 3.5M goaltender, you get a 5M+ one.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Thomas
has shown a history of that level of play… Anderson has done it … for what? about 20 games?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
tim thomas is .921 on his career including this year…. if somebody thought he would maintain a .940 all season long at the start of this year, they’d have been alone
mostly I’m just bickering at how little boston deserves what they’ve achieved
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once thomas has a bad game, the team implodes, not so bad in the regular season, but in the playoffs that is death
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
1779 × 0.938 (thomas) = 1668, so 110 goals against
1779 × 0.870 (toskala) = 1548, 231 goals against
they would have allowed 121 more goals this year with toskala in net for the same number of shots as thomas
FFFFFFFFFF
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wanna feel even worse? sub in a full year of reimer
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering
That Thomas just posted a .938 on the season and threw down a staggeringly ridiculous season to do it
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Ya that's why I specified he was a backup.
I’m sure Halak was used as a comparable – Almost identical deal, and Halak (including this season) is a career .915
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Yeah except
Halak is 25, and his cap hit is actually $3.75 mill.
I don’t think that was a great deal either.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Ya I thought it was a bit much after his miracle playoff run
But St. Louis isn’t exactly lacking in cap space, so it doesn’t matter “as much” for them. They really really really needed a #1 goalie.
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I’d pay league max for a goalie that gave us .913 goaltending but that’s just me.
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So
you think Reimer deserves $8 mill a year?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Hopefully some one offer sheets him for that much, hellooooooooo 4 1st round picks
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If I was convinced it was sustainable and if he was a UFA, absolutely.
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so if he does it again next year
are you convinced? or does it take 2 more before you give him that big money deal?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
personally
I’d say if he can repeat this performance within 0.008 either way (i.e. .914 or .930) then I’d sign him relatively long term.
If his career SV% after 2 and a half NHL seasons is over .915 I’d lock him up.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Wan Ihite had a long post about how many shots a goalie’s gotta face till we know what they are, it was something like 4000 shots
elephant shell
well
at this point he’s at 1100 after half a season. Next year after a full season he’d be around 3200 or so… so really in a season and a half if we look at his career number in the NHL and it’s over .915? he’s decent.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
this of course
is barring nagging injuries and the like, which he has often had in the past.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I brought it to Silver Seven Sens’ attention that they’re basically the 2007-08 Leafs, only if JFJ got re-signed.
They are burying their heads in the sand BIG time.
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It’s going to get ugly.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not trolling at all. Just laying out facts. It’s spooky how many parallels there are between Sens right now and the Leafs at the summer of 2008.
You have two long-time players that are/were considered among the best in the league; Alfredsson, who’s a cornerstone of the franchise and won’t move (Sundin), and Spezza, a talented player with a high potential trade-value (Kaberle).
You have a couple of long-time pieces (Phillips, Neil) of your core, that a) aren’t getting any younger, b) aren’t the difference between the team contending, and c) have more value to a contender via trade (like Kubina and McCabe)
It looks like you have a goalie, although it should be pointed out that the Leafs of 2008 thought they had goaltending solutions in Toskala, too. You also thought you had your goaltending sorted with Leclaire two years ago, and Elliott last year. We’ll see on that one.
You’ve got a couple of promising prospects in Karlsson, Rundblad, Butler (Schenn, Grabovski, Kulemin) but at this moment in time they’re still largely unknown because they still have a lot of development to do. The remainder of the prospect pool doesn’t have much to be desired.
Once it became clear the Leafs were missing the 2008 playoffs, they started to move certain pieces to accumulate draft picks, and then the team’s play improved significantly enough in a meaningless run to move that pick up to No. 7 in that summer’s draft; for kicks, the Leafs did it again the following year. (Anderson single-handedly moved your pick this summer from 2 to 6.)
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Well summarized. I have been saying that about the Sens since last year. Same with the Flames.
I just meant things around that franchise were going to get ugly.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Putting Feaster in charge was the best thing Calgary could have done. He’ll clean house this summer.
Jersey going to fail hilariously within 2 seasons.
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Until Bouwmeester and Stajan start living up to that contracts I will always laugh while watching the Flames play
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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ok marlies
game is back on RTV for those of you in Toronto
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
I'll keep people posted on what's going on
as it happens I suppose…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
2-1
Rochester scores on the PP with Gysbers in the box.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
weak goal
pings in off a skate, the marlies looked disorganized off the rush.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
As much as I hate Boston, how does Thomas not win the Hart this season?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Because it's the Hart Ross trophy
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tie game
Luciani scores to tie the Marlies game 2-2 for the Americans.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Shit the Marlies have been a completely different team since Kadri was called up
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
+ now that Colborne is called up
they’re even more different… their offense took a hit.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Shit, once you look at all the Marlies callups this year (some only temporary)
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Clayton Hansler
Caputi, Hanson, Rosehill, Holzer, Aulie, Boyce, Crabb, Mueller, Kadri, Lashoff, Reimer and Colborne. #Marlies to #Leafs
That is like 50% of the Marlies gone. The good 50% too.
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the marlies are also like the Leafs, very very little offense from the back end
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ve suffered quite heavily from injuries as well haven’t they?
by Self Destructive Zones on Apr 9, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Hodgman, Caputi, Hanson, Rynnas plus plenty more missed a serious # of man-games with injuries.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
I would give him another year on a 2-way, sure (not that 1-way or 2-way matter for the Leafs, i just don’t think he can negotiate a 1-way)
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Yup, but I think he could get a 2-way depending on how our SPC count goes. Kid has been pretty good when healthy.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Just your wording; “I would give him another year”, made it sound like you thought he was under contract with the Leafs.
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Nah i did my capgeek due diligence.
Something like >50% of the marlies right now aren’t under NHL contracts.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
The new nickname for this team should be: The Yonge Squad
They include:
Nazem “Nazdaq” Kadri with his filthy mittens
James “Optimus” Reimer with his incredible and clutch goaltending
Luke “OLAS” Schenn with his big hits and making plays that impregnate every woman in the stands
Matt “Lawnmower Man” Frattin with this batshit insanity and crazy good shot
Greg “Ladies Man” McKegg with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg
Joe “Colboner” Colborne with his incredible playmaking and great size
Jake “Gardiner Express” with his smooth skating and great positional play
Keith “Muhammad” Aulie with his positional play and great size (may contain some Wookie genes)
Brad “Rad Boss” Ross with his crazy antics and reaching his inner Darcy Tucker
Nikolai “Kule-Ade” Kulemin with his great 2-way game
Jesse “Paint it” Blacker with his awesome all-around game and big hits
Mikhail “Grabbo” Grabovski with his skills and pineapple/Hab-targetting system
Clark “Clarky Mark” MacArthur with his ability to surprise everyone
Luca “Truman” Caputi with his power forward-ness
Dion “Captain Caveman” Phaneuf with his big hits and big shots, all while speaking with rock taps
Jerry D’Amigo with his boner-inducing 2-way play and heart
Kenny Ryan, who somehow doesn’t have a nickname, with his nice defensive play
Joffrey “Loops” Lupul with his return to glory
Timmy Brent & Darryl Boyce with their heart and hustle
Josh “Nicholls and Dimes” with his 2-way play and improved offensive game
Tyler “T-Bo” Bozak with his playmaking and 2-way play
and, of course,
Phil “The Thrill” Kessel with his awkward mannerisms to go along with a sick, wicked, and nasty shot
Anyone else? I know I’m missing others.
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Jerry D’Amigo with his boner-inducing 2-way play
I laughed
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
shouldn't it be Jerry "3" D'Amigo... as in the 3 Amigos?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
McKegg will always be fart face to me
plus Caputi’s nickname is Gym Tan Luca, or GTL
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Took me so long to get this because I don’t watch Jersey shore.
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Ive never seen an episode, but i have lots of italian friends
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by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
as a side
can we also just start calling him the Situation?
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Luca “The Situation” Caputi? Sounds alright.
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Survey Says:
Acceptable.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
nah, but if he can ever get into the nhl again, that would be quite the situation
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t know any nicknames other than “I’m the fuck who Tim Brent is”
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
You weren’t on for the first couple game of the season where he scored against MON and OTT? That’s where Tim “THE LEGEND” Brent started.
"Callgirl! She was a callgirl!"
"No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!"
24/02/11: I was there.
I’d also accept Tim “Block Party” Brent
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Rosehill is “pole to pole” for his off ice shenanigans
Rule #20
by JaredFromLondon on Apr 9, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Best Tim Brent Shift Ever
http://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=95981
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
by nhlcheapshot on Apr 9, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
4-2
Marlies … Hamilton scores.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Late season push by Hamilton
@thejustinfisher
Justin Fisher, The
Ryan Hamilton’s puts the #Marlies up 4-2. That’s 7 goals in his last 7 games.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Hamilton
is a very solid and productive offensive player.. he’s also very injury prone.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
in his AHL career
he has played 62 games, 72 games, 65 games, 47 games, and now 45 games.
That’s a lot of time off with injuries. But here are his gpg and ppg values from the same seasons:
0.11 gpg, 0.26 ppg
0.28 gpg, 0.54 ppg
0.23 gpg, 0.38 ppg
0.34 gpg, 0.53 ppg
0.36 gpg, 0.62 ppg
This year that would translate to a 30 goal, 50 point season over 80 games… he’s a decent offensive player at the AHL level… but he’s injured WAY too much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Who’s in net? Scrivens or Rynnas?
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
O_o What’s going on in that game?
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
yeah
that was quick.
Tie game again.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
couple of old dudes
punching eachother in the face…. yawn
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
goal
awesome 5-4 Marlies
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Wow, who got it
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
NVM
Mike Brennan
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Per Chemmy retweet
@HackswithHaggs
Joe Haggerty
Where are the shots coming from? C’mon now RT @AntiHeroV: Haggs Really? How have the Bruins ranked in shots allowed in the past 3 seasons?
Someone should send him some numbers
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
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Are the any posts out there debunking the idea that the Bruins’ defense reducing shot quality?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
Burtch looked at that
Didn’t he?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
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I’m sure he did, just don’t know where the actual numbers are.
Seems bogus to me.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
tim thomas is the answer to all questions. why is it so hard for people to realize this
elephant shell
Because people don’t believe he is playing stupid ridiculous right now, and try to claim the Bruins D is helping him big time?
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
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julien must be a genius if he’s drawing up schemes where dennis “I let forwards dance around me” seidenberg is helping tim thomas get 940 S%
elephant shell
...
@HackswithHaggs
Joe Haggerty
For all Claude Julien haters: not really coincidence last 3 #bruins seasons have produced 3 of top 8 single-season save % in #NHL history
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
NM's Chief Lady Pleaser. Just ask eightyseven.
Don’t forget Lee Stempniak’s 30% shooting percentage last season in Phoenix.
Haggs probably thinks the way he bets in roulette influences whether the ball lands on black or red, too.
Resident Capologist
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
But it's okay
Because he watches the game
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
NM's Chief Lady Pleaser. Just ask eightyseven.
It wasn't a coincidence last year
based on the DIGR numbers… but… I have a hard time believing it from this year’s shot totals I was lookign at.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Yeah
And last year they were 14th in SA/G at 29.8.
Big drop to this year
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
NM's Chief Lady Pleaser. Just ask eightyseven.
This was
Where he was talking about it
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/4/4/2090607/Maple-Leafs-playoffs-death-clock-update#63164629
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
NM's Chief Lady Pleaser. Just ask eightyseven.
Right, so it’s all Thomas.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And Chara.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Bob McKenzie
SJ puts G Thomas Greiss on 3e-entry waivers.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
It makes sense – take 3 goalies into the playoffs, just in case – but man, there are a couple teams that would do well to have him.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
I know, i can't believe he survived waivers the first time.
I always thought Greiss was a pretty damn good prospect. They have Stalock too in the A so they could afford to lose him if they had to.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Another thing
is i wonder how he DOESNT get claimed. This is his last signed season, RFA on July 1.
Almost no risk in grabbing him, free asset, and if you dont want to pay him a lot then at least you have his rights, no? I would think EDM or COL (1st two on waiver priority claims) would grab him.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
wakingsound Boyd Devereaux
Watching the Leafs tonight at the ACC from the Hockey Night in Canada production truck. See how the show comes together production wise.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
He’s going to ruin everything.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
All the shitty players go into broadcasting.
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03/08/2011 - I saw THE Wookie score his 1st NHL goal.
03/19/2011 - Watched Kadri's 1st NHL goal from the West Bank
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by happiergilmore on Apr 9, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hodgman scores
6-4 Marlies
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Small defenseman with some dangles that’s never been much more than an AHLer. 26 years old.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe that 93 points gets a playoff spot in the East this year when it was 88 last year. That’s kind of sad.
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
Stoik_Leafs Twitter
Still 97 in the West
but the gap narrowed this year (95 vs 88 last year)
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
In the East there’s a huge dropoff after 9th place. six points back to 10th and then another 5 to 11th. The playoff teams are annihilating the bottom feeders
Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.
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by Chris Stoikoff on Apr 9, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
God hates us.
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Apr 9, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlies win it 6-5
whew.
You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'
Sad to see them go.
But looking forward to next year. Getting crazy amount of vintage Leaf games to get me through the summer.
GWWWHAAAA!
by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Apr 9, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
JOE FUCKING COLBORNE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
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03/08/2011 - I saw THE Wookie score his 1st NHL goal.
03/19/2011 - Watched Kadri's 1st NHL goal from the West Bank
Twitter me this.
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