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by JP Nikota on May 19, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintNaturally, last night's collapse by the San Jose Sharks is the biggest news to discuss today. There are plenty of great sub-plots, ripe for the picking. The speed and size of the Canucks, the emergence of the Sedins (5 points between them), the Marleau - Bieksa fight, the stupidity of Ben Eager and his hit on "Denk" Sedin, oh, right, and a pair of boobs (link is censored, but still probably NSFW).
From an NHL.com recap on the Sedins' evening:
They've said from day one that they don't care if it's them or anybody else producing in the playoffs as long as the Canucks win. But, after watching Vancouver slide by Nashville, it was fairly obvious that there was no way this team was going to challenge for a Stanley Cup if the twins, first and fourth in the NHL's scoring race this season, didn't have their say against San Jose.
Of course, we have plenty of different fare if this doesn't tickle your fancy. Over the jump, there is more on the Atlanta - Winnipeg situation, with perspectives from both cities, the latest on Bergeron, the Edmonton arena deal, and a host of other tidbits from the usual suspects.
There isn't any Leafs stuff, but I'm sure we'll find something in this pile of links to jump-start discussion.
Wednesday’s Three Stars
From Wyshynski.
Edmonton council approves framework deal to build new arena
New $450-million facility will keep Oilers in the city for 35 years. Well, municipal investment's kept the Coyotes in Glendale for this long. Hopefully, it'll work for the Oilers if it ever comes to that. Story from CP at the G&M.
Who’s got Gretzky’s record-breaking puck?
"I... I don't have your puck! It's in Bill's house! A-and Fred's house!" "HEY! What are you doing with my puck in your house, Fred!?" By James Christie at the G&M.
Owen Sound fans making noise - The Globe and Mail
The OHL-champion Attack may be in a small market, but their loyal fans are big-time supporters. Story from Dave Shoalts.
Bruins, Lightning providing unexpected offence
Story from the AP at the G&M.
Thrashers fans plan rally to try to save team
Supporters to hold rally before annual select-a-seat event. Story from Charles Odum at the G&M.
The inspiring playoff performances so far
Michael Langlois has a few thoughts on several players that have performed well in the post-season. A couple names might surprise you.
Manitoba won't subsidize NHL team: premier
Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger says the province is currently working out a financial agreement with local businessmen that could pave the way to return a team to Winnipeg, but it's not going to straight up subsidize a team.
Is Winnipeg itself the biggest obstacle left?
Scott Morrison at CBC Sports reminds us that the most likely problem with moving a team to Winnipeg is the city itself.
Bruins' Bergeron nearing return
The B's leading scorer could be playing in the next game. From CBC Sports.
Playoff Comebacks
I found this link last night as I got thinking about my picks for this round in the PPP Playoff Prognostication Pool Pick 'Em. I've got Vancouver in 6, but it might not last that long. According to this link (NHL.com), teams only come back from 0-2 deficits 12.7% of the time. Of course, the Sharks have yet to play at home, but last night was pretty ugly. I'd like to see them make more of a series of it.
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The Hockey News had an article in this weeks issue abouthow Winnipeg itself is the issue with an NHL team, except they’re version was “You thought Edmonton had trouble getting UFA’s? Who’s goign to say yes to black flies and the coldest intersection on Earth when you could be snow free in Tampa Bay or Dallas?”
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Funny story
In the Ben Eager flashing link, the video player’s start button is right above Eager’s groin. At first glance, it looked like an arrow pointing at his tallywhacker. I thought “What? Are the highlighting a stiffie?” But then I pressed the arrow and saw that the flash wasn’t really enough to get anything started. Besides it’s the playoffs, nobody thinks of sex during the playoffs . . .
I’m 47, married 17 years, with 7 kids. I think I show remarkable restraint with all the joys the Internet has to offer.
hopefully they all grow at the same rate so only the oldest gets the new stuff.
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Association supplies up to Bantam. Plus here in SW Ontario there’s lots of barely broken in used stuff to choose from – keeps the prices fair. Sticks are the only real expenditure, so far I’m not buying any masks – if a cage was good enough for Tretiak . . .
A plain goalie mask isn’t much more expensive then a player helmet. Once they get to age 12 or so a regular helmet isn’t really as safe for when you take a puck between the eyes.
I’ll have to disagree with that. I can get a very good quality helmet and cage for much less than the cost of a low quality mask. As for the puck between the eyes, a well fitted chin cup and helmet disperse the energy evenly. I can probably dig up the studies if required.
My hat is off to you, sir.
Having multiple kids in hockey is always a feat. I know my parents griped like mad with one (well, to be fair, I had two sisters with other interests, but still).
Well done.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
Meh you may be right about the safety although I’ve seen a lot more dents put into a players cage which personally scares the crap out of me.
As for cost I bought a new mask last year for about $200, and a players helmet I would actually trust to take a puck to would probably be pushing $100. Plus the mask which if I was playing I wouldn’t trust anything less than one of the ones actually designed for goalies (thicker bars) which can run upwards of $80.
Like I said however this stuff is only when they get older and to a level where shots are hard enough to actually hurt. For reference I dented the cage on my mask the first time when I was 13 from a shot.
Well, how about this – Rick DePietro comes back from a badly broken face and he chooses to wear a helmet / cage combo to better protect his injuries. I’m just saying . . .
That was because he had metal plates in his cheeks. Modern masks are tight to your cheeks, the cage combo isn’t.
Exactly it wasn’t to “better protect” his injuries its because he could no longer wear a regular mask comfortably.
A higher end helmet and a custom goalie cage probably has the same safety as a regular mask, but that combo is probably just as expensive if not more so then a standard mask. And I just personally wouldn’t trust grabbing say a teammates helmet, tie the neck thingy to it and going and taking shots.
by WizardofNaz on May 19, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
That was actually one of Osgood’s old masks because nobody makes a goalie cage anymore due to safety reasons.
Interesting… Even more reason why I would never wear anything other than a Mask then.
by WizardofNaz on May 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No one makes them any more because no one wants to buy them. That’s supply and demand not a safety issue. Cages don t look as cool and the kids all want to be cool. Hasek, Irbe etc. don’t need to look cool. If anything, the helmet itself offers better head protection and you can see better out of the cages.
Huh? The Irbe style cage does not protect better at all.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
So much so, that the league considered banning those helmets because they were unsafe (and grandfathering in Osgood). Taking a puck to the flat front of that helmet can do some massive damage.
It has nothing to do with “looking cool” – hell, the idea is pretty insane. You think Hasek, Di Pietro, Irbe, and Osgood opt for a better performance mask, while almost EVERY OTHER GOALIE IN THE LEAGUE wants to just “look cool”? Even though they have access to whatever style custom helmet they could want? It’s a pretty ridiculous notion. Those things aren’t safe. And I’d be afraid to let a kid wear one, because while the shooters they’re looking at can’t lift the puck that high, I have yet to see a nine year old play a full game without being face-flat on the ice at some point.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we shouldn't let children play contact sports
concussions are bad… etc.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
we should also
stop putting fluoride in our tap water, we shouldn’t hand out vaccines, and generally I find letting them go out in public without wearing their protective bubbles is unsafe.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh Steve, never change.
"[Phil Kessel]'s as streaky as a flipped coin" - Shift
by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't
about to!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That was his exact point, thank you.
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Hey Steve
read what I actually wrote. Especially given the context of what I was replying to.
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I was joking
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"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
jeebus, I thought the guy at work with 4 was crazy.
Once My first started walking and talking he was making a really good case for being an only child.
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we have two and room for no more, a third depends on a raise and a new house
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enh, stack’em up – there’s always room for one more. Remember kids are an investment in your future, lol.
I guess, the more you have the better the odds one will strick it rich and support you.
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Answer: More wives!
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on May 19, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a real legal nightmare.
Stick to mistresses.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
What… don’t you guys have 14 live in nannys? I thought those were standard
by WizardofNaz on May 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
3 goalies?
You COULD start a hockey team – The Flyers!
….or the ‘10/’11 Leafs
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Is one of them way more awesome than the other two?
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
I think it’s pretty obvious which team and player I’m referring to
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
Well if you emulate the Flyers, they’re all bad but they each get to play every game.
If you’re emulating the Leafs, 2 of them have to sit on the bench all the time looking sad.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
My boy has great tools but loses it like Billy Smith when someone gets in the crease – lotsa penalties.
One girl flops around like Hasek but it’s only Atom so she does OK. Good attitude, not too high, not too low. She’ll steal you one once in a while.
Other girl is just starting out but she shows signs of following in her brothers footsteps. She spends a lot of time shoving the other team out of her crease.
Did I mention I hate being a goalie parent? I either have to coach or sit by myself so I can’t hear the other parents.
I always wanted to be a goalie when I was playing as a kid, every year my dad said “you need to learn to skate better, goalies need to be able to skate” so I got to the point where I was consistently top 3 in skating for any team I played for, So I asked my dad if I could switch to goal and he said “you are much too good a skater to be a goalie”
crafty bugger
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
When I was like 8 I played on a houseleague team, where no one really wanted to go in net (it was still the age where you would see teams rotate each player through as goalie). And since my dad was the coach I kept going in net for like half the season (I still led my team in scoring despite only playing half the games as a forward… I was a rep callup and played 7 games rep that year so I was good). The next season I told my dad, if I don’t make rep I’m switching to goalie full time because I loved it. And so I did.
I played maybe 10 times during my stint in the “rotation” goalie years and loved every second of it and was always one of the better goalies, but I was by far a superior natural forward/defender than goalie so I can see why my dad pushed me in that direction
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wanted to play goal, and so I played 3 games in goal my first year of house league. I won 2 of them too. Loved it.
yeah, I was real sour about not being a goalie, until we got to body contact, then I didnt care anymore
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I played goal twice in house league as well. The first time I played real well and dueled out a 2-2 tie with one of the best goalies for my age. I wanted to keep playing goal but my father said, well let someone else try first as we were doing the goalie rotation after our goalie decided he didn’t want to. The next guy who tried ended up staying as goalie. The next time I played a few years later I got lit up and never played again.
by Nigel Cadbury on May 19, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
first game I played goal it was a 4-4 tie, second game we won 5-3 against the best team in the league and I stopped the best player in the league on a breakaway. all the kids on the team liked me suddenly
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
one time i played wearing goalie pads over top of my shin pads because our goalie got caught in a snow storm and they never found out until we were all on the ice for warm ups, being 9 year old house league they only had the ice for 50 mins and apparently that meant no time for me to go to the dressing room and get dressed proper so i just slapped the goalie gear over top of my regular gear and took to the crease, i could barely move and let in 5 goals, 2 of them real stinkers
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
was it at the level where the buzzer goes off every 2 minutes for the nexy shift?
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
Man weren’t those the days where most people couldn’t move fast enough to wear themselves out over 2 minutes…
I reffed for 6 year olds once i think I took maybe 20 strides the whole game, mostly gliding or standing around trying not to laugh as 10 kids just ran into each other chasing the puck
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I reffed for kids ages 6-10 and yah it was hillarious because as the day went along I would have to start moving more and more… although still not very much
I loved the 6year old games though because I would take like 3 strides in between the buzzers…
I hated reffing anything under peewees because I never moved and my hands froze. Sure it was super easy, but boring as hell. I much prefer reffing high levels.
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I only reffed for one year, and did maybe 20 games, nothing above 9 year olds
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Newb. I reffed for 6 years through highschool and for another year after college before I started coaching. With all the drama from coaching, I might just go back to reffing.
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yeah, I quit reffing to get into coaching, did one year as an assistant coach to my buddies dad, then I moved and never got back into it
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i think so, i cant remember what age they stop that at
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve always equated goalie with backcatcher – a stupid position. You crouch there while some fires something hard at you as hard as they can – and some other knob stands in front of you and either blocks your vision or tries to deflect it into your groin. So I never played net.
Yet you let 3 of your kids turn into goalies.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
All you can eat Buffet
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
She bops and He Bops
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gobots!
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Nobody wants to hear about your D&D Gobots bull.
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by SkinnyFish on May 19, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for Clerks 2 love
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
Kevin Smith
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Costner
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Kevin Bacon
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
Michael Moore
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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John Candy
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Uncle Buck
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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Brygalov hates Winnipeg because of no parks.
…okay that was a weak one.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Baconnaise
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Ottawa Senators
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by elseldo on May 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dog shit taco
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
"There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence."
Peewee Hockey
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I made my brother Bacon Jam for christmas.
tasted good mixed into mashed potatos, but it was a bitch to clean up the blender after.
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I was just forced to watch a 16 second car ad in order to see 6 seconds of boob. There is no shortage of injustice in this world.
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 8:38 AM EDT reply actions
Ads are glorious wonderful things and are much better than boobs.
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For the record, I do not recall what make or model the car was. Ad fail.
History. Leafs. Drawing. In no particular order!
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve sat through a lot worse for a much lower chance of boob
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Jays Home Opener.
A Buffet of boobs.
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mmm boob buffet.
I think they have that at the Brass Rail from 11am-2pm on Tuesdays.*
*May or may not actually be true
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand, so there’s a deal thats $100 million short to build a new arena.
So there’s no deal really, because the election is over so the feds aren’t ponying up.
Hoping for provincial money?
"He should be wearing a Sens sweater" - describing someone acting less than sane or competent. Use it.
It was a pretty big cop out
But here was there explanation:
The arena will cost $450 million, with the city providing $125 million, the Katz Group paying $100 million and $125 million coming from a user-paid facility fee.
The city notes in a news release that it is not a final or binding agreement and both parties must now work to secure the remaining $100 million required.
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Copper and Blue-gate Revisited
ok it wasn’t really a ‘gate’, but I was sure I wasn’t imagining getting banned from C&B that night following a Leafs win over the Oil. Here’s the PPP thread:
you can see more than one person got warned, then many of us lost the ability to post, rec, etc. I don’t know if it was an official banning, but they definitely stopped us from posting that night.
I think we ruined their GDT I can’t reply or rec anything anymore lol.
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I can’t either.
Where my heart belongs – GO LEAFS GO!
by rift valley on Dec 14, 2010 11:48 PM EST up actions
heh
a lot of you guys may have been banned.
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Worth it.
Not Liking Nikolai Kulemin Means You Have No Soul
by Clawson on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up actions
In chess, the pawns go first.
The experiment failed: Get rid of the trapezoid.
by Bower Power on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up actions
nah it works now. No banned………yet.
October 25, 1966. Thank you Lord Kelvin
by Chuck Diesel on Dec 14, 2010 11:50 PM EST up actions
BOOOOOOOOO
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since ’10
by thenumber14 on Dec 14, 2010 11:51 PM EST up actions
i know i was
Shoebacca – the PK Wookie
by danishmarshmallow on Dec 15, 2010 12:21 AM EST up actions
Banned.
Kulemin, so hot right now, Kulemin.
Boom Posted!
by PassivelyTruculent on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up actions
Pretty sure they shut it down.
20 miles to Legoland!
by nhlcheapshot on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 PM EST up actions
also:
good fun
big font: warning.
single mom joke: green’d.
picture of mechanical arm picking cherries (ie Taylor Hall): banned.
There will be an answer. Let it be.
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WE MISS YOU TOMAS
Wooooo I WAS THERE
I didn’t get banned but I think they stopped allowing posts.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I got a warning. There was either an e-mail or a pop-up message to tell me. I forget if I was temporarily suspended (2 hours, or something?) Meh, not too worked up about it either way.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
I wasn’t really worked up either. I was more just perplexed… I definitely remembered not being able to post, so I thought I had been banned.
either way – good times!
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seems like kicking an orphan, going after the oilers like that.
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It was glorious.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on May 19, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s like a stray dog biting an orphan
the dog is hungry and cold and lives under a bridge but people always talk about the poor orphan and how much potential he has being human and all so fuck the orphan if he pisses off the stray dog, dog is gonna bite
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were banned and unbanned it’d show up in your event log. You were warned three times and they deleted some of your comments.
You weren’t banned.
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Boobs
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by leafer1984 on May 19, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Pierced boobs
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit, formatting ate all he spaces
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
pancake nips!
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
So I’m going to take issue with this “Phil Kessel won’t crack 80 points” nonsense from yesterday. I’m going to start listing the age at which some players broke 60 points for the first time.
Phil Kessel: 21
Daniel Sedin: 25
Henrik Sedin: 25
P. Marleau: 26
P. Sharp: 26
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I don't think the consensus was that he'd never do it.
Most people figure he’s probably got a ceiling of about 80 points, in a season with good linemates.
Oh, you better believe that's a paddling.
Anything can happen, but to call it all but certain is a reach.
I stick with my original belief, consistent 30-35G, 60+ points a season.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he’s peaked at 23 with crummy linemates.
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Ya ‘cause that’s what I said.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again this is May and I’m still in conservative mode, by September I’ll be leading the charge for a 45G+ 90+ point campaign from Kessel.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If you’re saying he’s a 60pt guy you’re saying he’s already hit his peak. No one’s putting words in your mouth.
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Never said he won't crack 80, anything can happen - but to expect it? Really?
Rick Nash has never cracked 80 points (79 once) and he is a spectacular player.
Again, shitty linemates, but as of yet I haven’t seen Kessel’s linemates getting any better.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we should inquire about this Nash kid.
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Kessel’s objectively better.
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Offense possibly… Nash plays all 3 zones and PK’s and is also more physical. If I had to pick between the 2 to start a franchise, I’d pick Nash 5/5 times
Rick Nash played 3s more PK time per game than Phil Kessel did this year.
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hmm oh, I always thought he was one of the top PK’ers on his team. Interesting.
Nothing to see here move along.
Kessel gets less favorable zone starts than Nash and has a better finish.
This is all fucking nonsense.
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s just ridiculous seeing people poo poo a 23 year old for only scoring 60 points.
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What I never PooPoo-ed Kessel. I think he’s a great building block. It’s just I think Nash is a slightly better one, although that is dwindling now that I know he doesn’t PK anymore. I remember a few seasons ago he was like 3rd in the league in shorthanded goals so I think that stuck with me.
Kessel definitely has potential to be a PPG player. That being said if you gave Rick Nash an actual NHL centre he could do that too. Lets not forget he is only 27 (next month) and already has almost 500 points in his career, with very little help most years.
Bottom line is I’d be thrilled to start with either but the size and leadership I would lean to Nash slightly
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 19, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Typical American trying to make this about country of origin and not the 2 players.
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didn’t you hear? shooting percentages can never change. phil kessel’s shooting percentage is set for life.
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That’s not what statheads say. Sh% fluctuates wildly season to season but one should not expect permanent improvements.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
kessel isn’t going to have a 15% shooting percentage over the course of his career, but it’s ridiculous when people say things like “kessel won’t ever score 45 because he’d have to increase his shot totals by 3974130 at his current shooting percentage”
last year he had his highest career shot total and lowest shooting percentage since his sophomore season…if he shot last year the way he did the year he scored 36, he’d have scored 50 goals. we have not seen kessel’s best goal scoring years at all
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Absolutely. He will have outlier sh% years and if he keeps generating shots we can expect a 40-50 goal season or two.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Most 50 goal seasons now are on outlier shooting percentages.
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Exactly. If a typical sh% for a good forward is 12.5%, you’d need 400 shots. Ovie led the league with 367. The 5 guys with 40+ this year shot 14.9-17.2%. Of them, they all have career sh%s around 12-13% other than Stammer, who is still young and may well see his %s regress as his sample size builds up.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
There have been 15 post lockout 50 goal seasons.
791 goals on 5230 shots = 15.1% SPCT
Those same shooters’ careers: 3113 G on 23129 S = 13.4%
That’s almost a 12% difference.
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err its not a 12% difference its 1.7% difference..
however that is still around 91 goal difference if they shot their average.
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Let two variables be the same number:
a = b
a^2 = a*b (multiply both sides by a)
a^2 – b^2 = a*b – b^2 (subtract b^2 from both sides)
(a + b)(a – b) = b(a-b) (factor both sides)
a + b = b (divide both sides by (a – b)
b + b = b (a = b from the top)
2 = 1 Q.E.D.
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ah
But if you divide by (a-b) then the solution can’t have a=b.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind
I just read the rest of this.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually never
said this, despite your apparent belief to the contrary.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t realize what relatively soft minutes Nash got. I thought he was more in the Mikko Koivu mold. Clearly he wasn’t last year.
The numbers suggest he’s better at driving play than Kessel but Nash did have much better teammates and comparatively soft minutes.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Kessel and Nash would make ideal line mates
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
No he isn't
Nash scored 41 goals at 19, which is more than Kessel EVER has. His career GPG and PPG are both higher than Kessel too.
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by BCapp on May 19, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Career GPG and PPG are misleading; Nash had a productive 18 year old year and Kessel’s first season wasn’t productive.
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39 points in 74 games is productive-ish. But his 2nd year as a 19 yr old was 41 goals (57 pts) in 80 games. Then the lockout. However he came back the year after the lockout and was PPG that year and scored 31 goals in 54 games. I think Nash has done just a little bit better. And he did it by himself. The other leading point getter on those years was David Vyborny…
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by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Nash cracked 60 pts for the first time at age 23.
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That's an interesting stat but not necessarily predictive of an 80 points season.
There are 56 players since the lockout that have cracked 80 points at least once:
Alex Kovalev
Alex Ovechkin
Alex Tanguay
Alexander Semin
Andrew Brunette
Andy McDonald
Anze Kopitar
Brad Richards
Brendan Shanahan
Brian Gionta
Corey Perry
Daniel Alfredsson
Daniel Sedin
Danny Briere
Dany Heatley
Derek Roy
Eric Staal
Evgeni Malkin
Henrik Sedin
Henrik Zetterberg
Ilya Kovalchuk
Jarome Iginla
Jaromir Jagr
Jason Pominville
Jason Spezza
Jeff Carter
Joe Sakic
Joe Thornton
Jonathan Cheechoo
Marc Savard
Marian Gaborik
Marian Hossa
Martin St. Louis
Michael Cammalleri
Michael Nylander
Mike Ribeiro
Mike Richards
Nicklas Backstrom
Nicklas Lidstrom
Olli Jokinen
Patrick Kane
Patrick Marleau
Paul Kariya
Pavel Datsyuk
Ray Whitney
Rod Brind’Amour
Ryan Getzlaf
Scott Gomez
Sidney Crosby
Steven Stamkos
Teemu Selanne
Thomas Vanek
Vincent Lecavalier
Vinny Prospal
Vyacheslav Kozlov
Zach Parise
Several great players in there – Corey Perry, Jeff Carter, Semin, Mike Richards, have only done it once.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Again, I never said he can’t do it, but unless his situation changes, my expectations are still in the 35G, 60+ point range.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And Kessel scored more at a younger age than a bunch of those guys. He hasn’t peaked at 23 which means his points will go up at some point.
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I’d love to see a Unicorn to help that out.
Running Bozak again next year (who I think will come back a bit) 80 would be a huge reach.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Huge reach was a bad set of words. “A surprise” maybe is a better way of putting it.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
What Kessel needs is someone on his line that keep the offense rolling even on nights that Kessel isn’t on. I think the biggest reason for Kessel’s slump this year is because if he wasn’t playing well his whole line did nothing. If he can get someone who can take over a game here and there, Kessel will get the critical “bystander” points.
I agree. Bringing in a C like Richards who is just under a PPG for his career and averages around 25-50-75 or better would do wonders for Kessel. I’m not convinced Richards is the answer for the Leafs at this point in time, but something’s gotta give. I hope Burke agrees that we can’t go into next season with Bozak in the top 6.
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Using this list instead, since we don’t need multiple seasons listed out, and with that list sorted by player alphabetically, the age at which those players first hit 60 points:
23
20
24
19
28
24
24
25 (lol, cheechoo)
18
25
19
22
27 (lol, gionta)
20
21
22
22
19
24
19
21
19
19
26
21
19
21
20
26
28
28
20
22
23
68
27
23
20
22
23
19
23
25
25
22 (132 points…Teemu, you crazy)
22
21
22
27 (St Louis, surprisingly)
21
19
21
21
20
23
25
25
Average age: 23.19.
If you factor out the 19 year olds – many of whom are slated for the hall of fame, which I think we can agree Phil Kessel likely isn’t – the average age jumps to 24.1.
If you include only players who have done 80 points more than once, to knock out the fluke 80-pointers (I’m looking at you, Prospal), the average age is 21.75. Knocking out 18 and 19 year olds, the age is 22.68.
If we’re assuming that age is a good indicator – and we should probably take that as an assumption and skip it now – Phil Kessel is on pace for somewhere between 1-3 seasons of 80 points.
This informal survey does not take into account linemates, different scoring eras (Teemu!), or any advanced stat such as Zone start or Qcomp. Side effects of reading this informal survey may include nausea, vomiting, stroke, death, and the summoning of Steve Burtch.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
You know who else could be in this discussion? Kulemin. 57 points at age 24 would definitely put him in the “one time” category, but I’d take that for sure.
Also, the names and numbers on these lists – especially when it comes to when/with who they get their 80 point seasons – highlight how important it is for us to get Phil some more elite teammates.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
in other news, i get the joke but i hope those means didn’t include Patrick Kane being 68 years old.
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Ugh, they did. Tracing it back, it’s not Kane, but Pominville, who put up 68 points at age 24.
The average age for all is 22.42, not 23.19. The average age for all not including 18/19 year olds is 23.17, not 24.1. The numbers for repeat 80-point totals don’t change, as Pominville only hit 80 points in 2007-2008, at 25.
Thanks for the catch.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That must have been Patrick Cane.
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by GreatKingRat on May 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
why did you say
60 points at the top and 80 points at the bottom?
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the question is “among players who would go on to hit 80 points at some point in their career, at what age did they hit 60 points?”
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yeah I don’t really think you should be excluding the younger and older guys to make your data set nicer… it’s bad stats… but other than that… it’s fine.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't exclude
outliers from your analysis… you just mention them in your assessment.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
also
when there’s a few “outliers” they stop being outliers… in reality all of the guys on that list are outliers, because so few NHL players post 60+ point seasons, let alone 80.
The fact that some of the elite, are even more elite isn’t something that’s outlierish, it’s just part of reality.
Using the “average” or the “mean” isn’t really logical anyway because the data set won’t be normally distributed.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you
could probably include the variance if you want to make it more clear either way.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick and dirty comment while I’m at work. I knew it wouldn’t be statistically robust, and it also should suggest that the age at which you break 60 points is fairly irrelevant to whether or not you’re likely to break 80. If you’d like to look into the issue more closely, feel free.
Excluding 18 and 19 year olds was just based on the observation that, generally speaking, those are not the types of players who we are comparing Kessel too, though as I look more closely at who I would’ve deleted … we are comparing him to some of them.
But yeah, it’s not a matter I’m too worried about – just pulling out some data for the discussion that was already ongoing.
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I’m pretty sure we can assume that any sort of analysis that we throw together in a comment in a FTB thread isn’t going to be statistically robust.
And I, for one, am okay with that.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanna know the common thread between them all.
They all got better linemates! (well the Sedins got better together…)
But that is probably the ages (too lazy to look up) around when Marleau got Thorton and Sharp got Kane/Toews and then Hossa
Sounds like needs moar Richards.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to imagine that adding a good player wouldn’t help his point totals.
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Would Jonas Hogland have ever scored 29 goals without playing with Mats Sundin? Probably not…. good players help not so good players get better, good players help other good players get ALOT better.
If Kessel gets someone up the middle who can keep up with his speed and skill, watch the fuck out.
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
What I said is it is unlikely he does it 3 times as I looked at the list of active NHL players who have done it 3+ times and I didn’t feel comfortable saying Kessel belonged in their ranks.
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Kessel had a younger 60pt season than:
Iginla
Hossa
Zetterberg
Bertuzzi
Elias
I could keep going. Obviously nothing’s guaranteed but acting like we can’t see a 20pt improvement from a young guy piling up the points is absurd.
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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in their first 60 point seasons:
Iginla: 18:24
Hossa: 18:01
Zetterberg: 18:57 (he went from 43 points in the pre-lockout year to 85 the year after… he probably would’ve broken 60 a year earlier)
Bertuzzi: 19:40
Elias: 17:28
I’d say Bertuzzi is the only one that really got minutes close to Kessel in order to put up his “60” point season, and he posted 85 points which is a hell of a lot more than 60.
The others all played far less in their first 60 point season and had somewhere to go afterward. Kessel isn’t going to suddenly play both ends of the ice, so he isn’t likely to see 25+ minutes a game.
He isn’t likely to add 18 points… I just don’t think it makes a lot of sense.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
In Kessel's
first 60 point season he played 16:34 and shot 15.5%. This past year he got 64 points and played 19:39 while shooting 9.8%.
If he could put together the 15.5% and the 19:39 in ice time, then we’ll see him up around a ppg. But it’s going to take both of those… so really we’re counting on his shooting numbers improving.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Add in getting linemates who are better than Joey Crabb and Tyler Bozak. Those 18 points can come from assists, too.
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really?
you think he’ll add 18 assists and become a 50 assist guy? Only 55 forwards since the lockout have put up 50 assists. Only 26 have done it while scoring over 30 goals.
That’s 26 guys in the past 6 years.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and of that 26
11 have only done it once.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and 3
of them are retired… Kariya, Sakic, and Jagr… so we’re really looking at him becoming one of the top 10-15 forwards in the NHL… I’m not sold on that being reality at this point. And he’s likely to peak in the next 2 years, so yeah… I just don’t know.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
and only 3 guys did it this past year… Ovechkin, D. Sedin, and St. Louis… Crosby would have but he didn’t last long enough.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, I should’ve been more literal:
A portion of the 18 point difference may come from a regression of Kessel’s shooting percentage. Another portion of the 18 point difference may come from having linemates that score more than a combined 18 goals on their seasons.
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Players since 97 with a 21 year old or younger 60pt season: http://www.hockey-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&year_min=1998&year_max=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=21&birth_country=&franch_id=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=S&handed=&c1stat=points&c1comp=gt&c1val=60&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=goals
Players there without 80pt seasons:
Skinner, Duchene, Tavares, Toews, Friesen
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And Bergeron, Horton and Comrie. But anyway that is a good argument. I concede.
One side note though, notice how many of those players are C’s.
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Gretzky retired too young? I understand what you mean about him retiring before age 40 and thus it being impossible to achieve 80+ points being 40 or over, but even if he hadn’t retired when he did and played another 2-3 seasons, it’s extremely doubtful he ever would’ve topped 80pts again. Look at his points totals over his last 4 years:
95/96 102pts
96/97 97pts
97/98 90pts
98/99 62pts
He was on a very steady decline in the years leading up to his retirement. If he’d stayed on till 2000/2001 when he would’ve been 40 years old, there’s an extremely slim chance he would’ve put up 80+ points. 50+ maybe.
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The graph nhlcheapshot posted illustrates in a much better way what I was trying to communicate. Look at that trend… 98/99 wasn’t a blip, it was part of a larger (and very long) downward trend. Gretzky was worn out and broken down by 98/99. Chances he rebounded from the back problems and put up 80+pts two years later? I think that would be extremely doubtful. He knew when he was done and threw in the towel.
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but look at the way he was hovering around just below 100. Besides check out Selanne’s numbers. Specifically his Colorado year.
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Selanne had a bad year at age 33 and then rebounded the next year to a points total that was far higher than his points totals the previous 4 years to the shitty season. He is an exception, not an example of what generally happens. Gretzky was 5 years older in his last season and his points totals reflect what you would expect from an aging scorer, a steady decline in points production. I don’t think that the example of Selanne does anything to support the idea that Gretzky could have rebounded at age 39 or 40 to 80+ points once again. Of course, you and I are both just speculating. Who knows, maybe if he took a year off at 39 and then returned at age 40 with the Maple Leafs he could’ve put up 130pts playing on a line with Mats Sundin. We’ll never know! It is nice to dream about though! haha
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive heard Gretz talk about how he had always planned on retiring after 20 years in the NHL, stemming from when he signed his ‘liftetime’ 20 year deal in the WHA right before the Oilers came to the NHL in ’79
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s 6/6
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
And this year was an “off year” for him. He could probably go 9/9 before slowing down at all.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
You think Ovie at 25 only has 3 more years before he starts slowing down?
by WizardofNaz on May 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
No but I mean he had 5 great years before almost slipping under 80… just a prediction really. I don’t think he’s gonna turn 29 and go to shit or anything. He’s probably going to put up 13 eighty point seasons… maybe more.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He had career lows in both shots and shooting percentage. I suspect he’ll get at least 40 next year.
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Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
He also has a higher goals per game than all active players with a 20% lead on #2 Kovalchuk.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
no one will ever be more exciting than Valerie Bure
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by elseldo on May 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is your real name Candace Cameron?
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on May 19, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way I think Ovie ever goes less than 80 pts is if he’s hurt.
by WizardofNaz on May 19, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Or suspended
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
He was injured this season and still managed 85. He’s insane.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
boooooo
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ad agency?
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booooooo
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wait…in Toronto?
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okay then.
booooooooooo
(I work in TV Traffic)
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I’m in a digital shop, so no TV for us.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on May 19, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The beer selection at both the LCBO and Beer Store has improved.
Try Flying Monkeys Hoptical Illusion Almost Pale Ale, they sell it at the LCBO
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh
Zherdev attacks wife, criminal charges await
Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets reports the following this morning:
The Philadelphia Flyers forward Nikolay Zherdev attacked his wife after a quarrel in a restaurant, caused damage to her car, insulted her and threatened her with death.
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Russian enigmitis strikes again? /s
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Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
/Flyer’ed
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 20, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
A late round guy who seems intrriguing/ longer term prospect, Via Ryan Kennedy
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/40374-Prospect-Watch-Joona-Kunnas.html
also: Best name since Tuomo Ruutu
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For the record I’m hopeful Kessel will become a ppg player but not optimistic the way the team is currently constructed. I’ll admit there was a bit of excessive hand-wringing about Kessel yesterday because of all the Seguin crap, which was just not a good time for anyone
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by T is for Truculence on May 19, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
Kessel: He’ll be fine.
Vancouver: World is ending saturday, so no cup for you!
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Jim Hughson embodies everything I hate about Canada.
by Future_considerations on May 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions
TSN off-season Game Plan for the Leafs
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=366233
DRAFT
25th – Matt Puempel, Boone Jenner, Joe Morrow
28th – Scott Mayfield, Daniel Catenacci, Rocco Grimaldi
FREE AGENCY
According to www.capgeek.com, the Maple Leafs have approximately $41.7M committed to the 2011-12 salary cap for 15 players.
Needs: First-line centre, three checking forwards, top four defenceman.
What I said the Maple Leafs needed last year: Two top six forwards, two top nine forwards.
They added: Clarke MacArthur, Kris Versteeg, Colby Armstrong, Tim Brent, Mike Brown.
TRADE MARKET Nazem Kadri, Tyler Bozak, Mike Komisarek, Brett Lebda, Jeff Finger, two first-round picks.
Definitely don’t agree that we need 3 more checking forwards.
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Wouldn’t that be:
25th – Matt Puempel, Boone Jenner, Joe Morrow
28th – Matt Puempel, Boone Jenner, Joe Morrow
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I’d hope so, those aren’t great options he has listed at 28th.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Boooooooooooooo-ne
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Boone seems to be falling in rankings, ISS and THN both had him out of the top 30 in their rankings. I’d roll the dice and try and grab him with the 39th overall pick.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d use the later 1st, not many names after him impress me. Then again who knows what actual picks we’ll end up with Burke’s trade madness.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense, but it depends on who is left. If there is a high risk/ high reward situation I’d take them over Jenner who seems like another 2nd/3rd line tweener (which isn’t a horrible player to add.)
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Really though.
Gonna come off as a jerk on this one, but took a glance at Grimaldi’s Twitter yesterday… that guy is SUPER religious.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Him and Reimer can rock the same congregation on Sundays.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This was like Reimer x 5 trillion.
Every tweet was basically bible scripture. Not ripping on the kid, just found it amusing
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He and Reimer can do post-game interviews together.
“How did you do so well tonight?”
“We’re on a mission from god.”
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
its the third period, we’re down by a goal and we’re wearing sunglasses
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He seems like a good player, but I don’t want the Leafs to draft him because I might have to retire my Habs smurf jokes.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m the same way. I’m a fan of drafting big guys who can skate and whatnot, but then there’s Gerbe, Gionta, St Louis, Ennis, etc that make teams look foolish.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Gerbe next to Myers is hilarious.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The Chara and St. Louis puck battles have been the highlight of the Bolts/Bruins series for me.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite moment in history (not just hockey history) is when Tucker destroyed Chara
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I do the same thing when I talk about Belfour.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
only Leafs jersey I have. Got it during the lockout.
sigh.
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There’s nothing wrong with a Belfour jersey.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no, there’s not. man it was a long weekend in Montreal the next season though. Damn you Tellqvist for lsoing both those games.
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and by long I mean explaining to each drunken montrealer that Belfour was injured and wouldn’t be playing that weekend so their tauntsd about him are meaningless.
it was a good response since most of them would wander off halfway thorugh the explaination
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tucker destroyed Chara post lockout… Chara was a Bruin then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL_xZYYLtqA
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s funny how awful his skating looks throughout that clip.
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Tucker’s knees were probably plastic by then
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant Chara’s.
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my bad
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
3 chicken sandwiches from mcdonalds, 2 cheeseburgers from dairy queen, and a mint oreo blizzard. Now that’s a meal #Tasty #ImFull
A combo of Reimer and Wellwood apparently
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Grimaldi is going to take himself out of the draft and give up all possessions anyway, May 21 is upon us.
by maplestirup on May 19, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
TRADE MARKET Good asset, Good asset, shit, shit, shit, picks.
Checking forwards (third line) is currently slated to be something like Kadri/Lupul, Bozak, Armstrong, with probable fill-ins by Mueller and maybe Frattin if he lights up the AHL for any reason. Considering our fourth line this year will likely be made up of some of our second (Crabb) and occasional third liners (Brent, Boyce) last year, I’m not sure we really need anything added to the bottom six…
I agree with the first line center, of course, And I wouldn’t be surprised if we added one more D-man on a short term contract.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much
I think by “checking forwards” he could mean 3rd or 4th liners, and it make come from the fact we technically haven’t signed Brent or Boyce yet.
3rd line and below I hope we develop internally, battle for spots.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think 3rd line would be great with Kadri/Lupul Bozak and Army. Would play with grit and also provide a bit of a spark offensively. Not the true shutdown Burke likes but very good 3rd line nonetheless.
4th line SHOULD be Brown-Brent-Boyce (or Hanson), but likely Orr or Rosehill will slot in most games again but those 6 guys should make up the core of our 4th line and pressbox.
Yah I don’t see a need for bottom 6 forwards.
Not the true shutdown Burke likes
If The ‘67 Sound is wondering whether or not he wrote a really great fan-post, the fact that it’s still being used today should answer that. So yeah, “the true shutdown Burke likes” is more like “the true shutdown everyone thinks Burke likes.”
Also, Burke’s team looks more and more like T67S suggested it would every day. F: MGK, C: LBA, S:Ka?Ke
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I don’t think Rosehill is being re-signed over Brent or Boyce.
I am all for the BBB fourth line.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on May 20, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I left Mike Brown off that list. I am ashamed.
Lupul/Kadri-Stastny-Kessel
Kulemin-Grabovski-MacArthur
Kadri/Lupul-Bozak-Armstrong
Brown-Brent-Hanson
Bottom 6 fill-ins: Zigo, Mueller, Crabb, Boyce (maybe Frattin near the end of the year).
I can’t imagine improving the bottom six on that list by much. Honestly, I like that roster. I like it a lot. (You like how I didn’t even give up any roster players to get Stastny?)
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I like it
And if we have to include Kadri for Stastny I’m okay will going internal competition to fill the 3rd line wing spot, As maybe Hanson could do it, Or Caputi Mueller Boyce. And then later in the season maybe Frattin. Either way aside from #1C I really hope Burke doesn’t bring in a forward**
**excepting any 1st line talent of course
I have a hard time imagining a scenario where we acquire Stastny without giving up Kadri. I think if Colorado asks for Naz, Burke walks away.
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If Colorado is smart they’ll ask for Schenn.
which would make me a sad panda.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I didn’t mention Schenn because that’s Burke’s dealbreaker. That’s our next captain.
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I like how Cullen’s reasoning for dealing Stastny is their “rebuild”. Since when is trading a 25 year old 70+ point guy a good move?
Either way, I’m glad his dad threw the Avs under the bus after the Stewart trade. Hopefully it plays into him getting dealt
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a gamble. If they go the old fashioned route Stastny could be 28 by the time they turn the corner. If they trade him now they’ll still miss the playoffs for 3 more years, but then they’ll have a tidal wave of stars led by a 25 year old Duchene.
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schenn for stastny straight up? I love schenn but I do that in a heart beat, but the more and more you add to that…yeah, no
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d feel very uncomfortable about Schenn for Stastny straight up, although I’d probably do it.
Sometimes a sign that a deal is fair is if both sides feel like they overpaid.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
schenn for stastny straight up is a terrible overpayment for the Avs
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate that we would be giving up Schenn before what we expect to be an offensive breakout year.
But I hate that we lack a young, elite center more.
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Yeap. If we get Stastny, I think Kulemin is number one on the outs, unless Burke pulls the sales job of the decade and gives up Lupul or MacArthur instead. They’re looking for wingers now.
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schenn/Johnson would be one hell of a potential pairing
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
SO MUCH POTENTIAL ARGHH
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why I want to some how snag Bogosian
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If we go UFA Unicorn route, we’ll still have picks and prospects to trade for Bogosian.
If we go trade Unicorn route… no such luck.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My only issue is that he plays right side. Doesn’t do us any good if he’s playing under phaneuf and schenn.
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we’d figure it ou
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m using him more as a value marker than a needs marker
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
our next captain? you realize Phaneuf is like, 26 years old.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I think they’re less interested in Schenn now that they got Johnson. Before that the conversation would have started with him.
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Good chance that conversation DID happen.
Rumours were that Burke tried to get Stastny but the price was too high. Schenn (or Schenn+) might have fallen in that “too high” category.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the price was probably Schen +2x 1st round picks +Blacker like prospect
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
There is just no way we can ever know.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m think it was before the JOhnson trade, so we would only have had one of the firsts. Schenn + 1st + MacA + B prospect;
But its a complete guess
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Well, in the above scenario, I had to imagine that Colorado bought him out. Realistically, the name is just a placeholder for whatever #1C you want to put in there – Stastny, Richards, Stastny, Weiss, Stastny, etc..
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I have a feeling that (outside of richards) who ever it is will be a surprise
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
BERGLUND
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this idea
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I want me some Berglund. Though apparently, according to the intertubes (they’re reliable right?) there is some troubled waters between Oshie-camp and St Louis. So while I’d prefer Berglund, I’d happily take Oshie of their back.
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There is no way to know.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant give me your best guess…
My guess is actually less than both 1sts. Something like Frattin and a 1st for Oshie… he’s good and young yes but he’s not a #1 guy yet and might never be. His best season point wise was this year and he only was on pace for about 56 points over 82 games…
I’ve given up on guessing because frankly I (and none of us) have any godamn clue.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s an awful lot for a rumored headcase. I’d offer a 2nd round pick and the current equivalent of Greg Pateryn.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
MIKE RIchards
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I hear he’s both bad with the media and dislikes Steve Simmons. He’ll fit right in here.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont give a fuck how he is with media
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Heh ya me either, I mean look at Phaneuf.
/Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerddddd
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Its a dream, a fantasy and its not gonna happen.
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Nope.
We all have lists of dream players though.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Before January 31 2010, #1 on my list was Dion Phaneuf
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Me too. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Burke is looking younger than we all think. Which isn’t to say that Stasnty isn’t young, but he (and Mike Richards) will be 26 next year, Weiss will be 28, and of course Brad Richards isn’t a spring chicken. I just wouldn’t be shocked if he was aiming for someone like Berglund – mentioned above – at 22, or even someone of the Connolley/Granlund/Burmistrov age range.
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Thats where I think he is aiming. Say hello to Kyle Turris?
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Project Kyle Turris? Hello.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I could live with Turris, there is a tingle in the back of my mind that he runs real hard at stamkos via offer sheet though, and if that fails, Tavares next year
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
there are maybe 10 players in the NHL that can “keep up with Kessel” and skating is one thing everyone can improve on
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked pretty good at the WCs tearing through defenders.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Won't happen re: Stamkos.
Just… won’t. Odds are higher that Yzerman will get some one to take on Lecavalier’s ridic contract and sign B. Richards.
Tavares I could see Burke ruining our franchise to acquire him but no idea what NYI would want.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
offer sheets
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t care what Burke says, I don’t see him offer sheeting anyone unless it’s after months of trade negotiations.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what I learned this week. Scotty Bowman once threatened to trade Stevsie to the Senators.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya read that.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
what’d he do?
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nothing in particular I think, he was just not putting it all together. yzerman took up the challenge and became a great captain.
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You just learned that?
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I think it’s obvious I just learned it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
probably including brent/boyce/etcs spots
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I just come right out and say that I really really want Bieksa this summer? Vancouver would be stupid to let him go, and will probably resign him instead of Ehrhoff, but jeez if he does hit the UFA market? Hello!
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Many people are concerned about his propensity to be injured.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what she said
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
For the record I’m okay with he or Erhoff. Despite his splodeybones.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I forget which SBNation site but some one compiled some advanced stats about Ehrhoff that were not flattering.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a replacement Kaberle.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He sucks defensively
And I really wonder if he would put up the same numbers without the twins and the powerplay
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He had
8 G and 42 points the year before he was traded to you (for peanuts I may add) on SJ. Now that could have been b/c of Thornton/Marleau but it wasn’t the twins.
Also a quick glance (which I did a while back) at his advanced stats were solid. Not great, but definitely not “unflattering”.
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He’s sheltered behind Bieksa and Hamhuis.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right. I guess I just looked at Corsi Rel last time which is solid. Doesn’t particularly concern me though as I think he’d be sheltered with us too
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Right now we have no one capable of thriving against top competition. Dion’s best playing against 2nd level comp, Schenn may be capable but hasn’t done it yet, and I think Aulie’s future is as Hal Gill. A valuable and useful player but not a top pair guy.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Aulie is a better skater and a lot meaner than gill ever was
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But how is his lay-on-top-of-the-puck quotient? Because Gill’s is one of the best in the league.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I also think Aulie has better offensive potential than Gill, which is to say more than zero
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Aulie also has a better nickname than Gill ever did. Muhamad Aulie!
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USS Hal Gill is a pretty good nick name
But Aulie has two good ones!
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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Aulie does is win win win no matter what
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe
I’m just not convinced we can say “sure we can put Ehrhoff on our 2nd pair for $5MM, we can shelter him!”
I’ve just seen too many supporting players get overpaid as UFAs and then flame out when put in a leading role — both with the Leafs and other teams — to get on the Ehrhoff train. Or the Bieksa train frankly.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
how come all you guys keep forgetting about Clitsome? he never gets any attention
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
;)
Seriously though his complete lack of NHL experience concerns me. I don’t want to have to give the Finger treatment to Clitsome.
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by BCapp on May 19, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some guys just never figure out that Clitsome has a lot to do with getting Ehrhoff.
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by Bower Power on May 19, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 19 recs
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. Top drawer
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clitsome
is usually found in the drawers down below.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
He’s been paired with Edler most of the year who covered up all his defensive liabilities
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Edler is, quietly, one of the best D-man in the game. (I don’t mean top 10 or anything, just really fucking good).
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Ehrhoff is totally overrated because of the team he plays on. He’d be a disastrous signing given how much he’s going to make (probably $5MM long term).
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats why I am not interested. Just too expensive.
I am not advocating signing the following
But how much do you guys think Wiz is going to cost? or Pitkanen for that matter.
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why do you keep advocating signing guys who suck?
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an uneducated guess about pitknanen…about 3.5 mill? could be way off
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Lol. I actually have to put those bold statements in or people come in attacking. Figured as much. Maybe some secondary player that will cost less than 3.5 is who we should be targetting. Or maybe no one.
Or maybe we should offer to buy a share of the Glendale arena in exchange for Yandle and Turris.
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yeah, I’ve seen you get torn apart for making hypothetical suggestions before
I’d want bieksa but he’s going to cost way too much. But I really like your last idea
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I think Anton Babchuk is the best option for an affordable defenseman who doesn’t completely suck.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he's
one of the two D men that was more sheltered than Clitsome… MA Bergeron was the other.
He also sucks.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
For minimal Even Strength ice time and running the powerplay I like him, but he is a defensive liability. He’s a third pairing guy or he needs a strong defensive partner (Schenn?)
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's look into this shall we?
07-08 – only played 34 games……….because he had his calf slashed by a skate in a freak accident.
08-09 – played 72 games. Nothing to see here.
09-10 – Played only 55 games due to…….another freak skate cutting accident. Somebody get this kid some kevlar socks!
10-11 – Played only 66 games because he blocked a slapper with his foot and it broke a bone.
You tell me if he’s prone to injuries or just had some bad luck. Every one of those is a “freak” occurence and not something like bad knees, busted shoulder, old man hips, bad back, etc…..
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It could be indicative of his style of play, that puts him into position to hurt himself. I don’t think it accounts for freak skating accidents, but two in three years is a little odd.
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by T is for Truculence on May 19, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He does wear
The Kevlar socks now! One incident too late, IMO
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I was saying last night – he’s really growing on me. And that’s hard to do as a Canuck.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he is going to get paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaid
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
$5M per year. For sure
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I'm thinking more along the lines of $4M.
Look at some of the premier UFA signings from last summer, Z. Michalek ($4M), P. Martin ($5M), Hamhuis ($4.5M), I think Ehrhoff gets more than Bieksa too.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
People have short memories and what Bieksa is doin in the playoffs is driving up him contract every game
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
He shouldn’t get more than Hamhuis. The two were virtually the same this year. And the reason both did so well was because they were paired together. That pairing was the definition of the total being greater than the sum of its parts
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Whats your opinoin on the fact that he gets injured every year?
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Yes and no. I mean, sorta. I mean, meh.
He’s due to make some decent cash. Between Phaneuf, Komisarek, and Schenn, we’ve already got some pretty serious cash on the blue line – we spent a lot of time last year wondering how we’ll get out from under that very problem. At 29, I can’t imagine he’ll be looking for a short term contract, and in that there’s two problems: first, how long will his play hold up? and second, is he taking a slot away from one of our younger players? I mean, Gardiner is looking like he’ll be a strong player, Gunnarsson should be able to step up a bit, and though Blacker’s got a long way to go, he’s got some good potential. If we have to give Bieksa a 5 year deal, which would take up our last “top 4” slot (Phaneuf, Schenn, Aulie being the other three), is Gardiner gonna sit on the third pairing for four?
Which is to say I guess we could, and I’d be happy enough about it, but it’d build up a little bit of a logjam on D, and would be a step away from that whole “get younger” philosophy. Unless we’re trading someone out and sure to get a good deal on the contract, I’m not thrilled with the idea.
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I’m okay with Gardiner being a number 5 D man who plays top pp minutes. Kinda the shletered defensive role like the sheltered offensive role we want for Kadri.
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Just thought to check. Bieksa shoots right, Ehrhoff shoots left, so…
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
to clitsome… we’ve been over this… one of the 3 most sheltered D Men in the league. If we can’t shelter Ehrhoff, I don’t think we can shelter cltisome.
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You don’t shelter clitsome.
You “hood” him somehow… at least that’s what I’ve heard.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on May 19, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
no
you remove the hood… the hood is on in the natural state.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there are worse things than having Gardiner and Gunnarsson on your third pairing (though if he plays where he shoots, Bieksa would be our third right D-man). I also forgot that Gysbers should be on the depth chart. Can’t knock 31 points in 60 games as an AHL defenseman.
Looking at the current depth chart, the only way I’d really want to add to it would be if we are trading out some depth for a Stastny forward:
Phaneuf
Schenn
Aulie
Gunnarsson
Gardiner
Blacker
Gysbers
Mikus
Holzer
(Komisarek/Finger/Lebda)
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If Gunnar and Gardiner are the 3rd pairing, where is Komisarek?
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Bieksa playing on the left side even though he’s a right handed shot. So if we signed him my ideal setup would be:
Bieksa-Phaneuf
Gunnarsson-Schenn
Aulie-Komisarek
Actually my ideal setup would have Komisarek scratched, but that’s not going to happen. If he’s in the lineup, he needs to be paired with someone competent enough to cover his ass.
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I think you go Aulie-Schenn as the shutdown pair against the other team’s top line. That’s what Nashville did with Blum and Klein and it worked out pretty well for them.
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Actually, if memory serves me right, the 3rd pairing was Klein and SOB. I remember that cuz some asshat compared Phaneuf to Klein last year and I was laughing at him (Klein)
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Schenn hasn’t played against top lines yet.
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And Aulie was eaten alive.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not
Hey had the highest QCOMP and CorsiRELQCOMP among our d last season.
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Yeah, and because of that his corsi rel was -15.9. That, my friend, is being eaten alive (by top lines).
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
most of the past 2 years Beauch got Ovie, and schenn was there because he was paired with Beauch a good portion of the time
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yah, and once dion was healthy again, he and beauch got the ovie assignments, and then when beauch got traded it was Dion and Aulie
Dion shut ovie down real good from my memory (at ES anyways)
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is Komisarek? In the press box.
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in a ditch probably
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by CanadianMaple09 on May 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gunnarsson
is ahead of Aulie….
Phaneuf + Someone
Schenn + Gunnarsson
Aulie + Someone…
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to stop deluding ourselves. That last someone is Komi
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I'm not really
being delusional… I’m just leaving it open should he fall into a blackhole or something.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha. I needs to go find me a blackhole generator then…
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Calgary would only take him if he had a full NMC.
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I love the idea of a Schenn Gunnar pairing.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what
closed out the season last year… I didn’t really mind Aulie with Phaneuf, but that wasn’t ideal frankly.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should be giving
Aulie bottom pairing minutes, with PK time, and bring him along slowly at the NHL level. He can move up to top 4 minutes when injuries happen (which they are bound to) by the end of the year he’ll be around 16-20 minutes a night on average I’m sure.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Not sure who plays with Phaneuf but as long as we don’t overpay I won’t be too upset. I think Schenn-Gunnar will handle the toughs better than Phaneuf-Aulie.
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by The '67 Sound on May 19, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t Gunnar playing the touhg assignments as a rookie with Beauch?
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yes
he’s been quite good defensively the past 2 years frankly… he’s solid on PK and at ES.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Won’t find any argument from me. He seems to be developing into that all-ice minute muncher.
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Shhh, don’t talk about it too much now, and when he’s kicking ass next year we can all be smug about it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
are
you worried we’ll jinx it or something? or do you just want to keep it quiet? I wrote an entire posting about this…. so I sort of aired my views already.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, I will be quite blatant with the way I like Gunnar. He had a breakout rookie season where he played over 20 minutes a night, put up solid offensive numbers and was remarkably reliable. He has a bad first half to his second season and everyone forgets him for the new sexy Aulie. Nothing against Aulie (I like him), but I have not forgotten Gunnar.
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Worrying about jinxing it. Plus he can’t be underrated if we keep talking about how awesome he is. Although Detroit fans have been calling Datsyuk underrated for years when his Selke and Lady Byng trophies are pretty strong evidence to the contrary.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
well the story
was linked on MLHS and Wysh’s blog, and had over 1800 hits… so at least a few people read it.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
and to follow your
logic on Datsyuk… what your saying is… when he wins Norris trophies we should keep telling people he’s underrated?
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
True enough – I wasn’t too worried about the particulars.
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I think Gardiner starts with the Marlies next year.
No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
I want him to play all season there save for emergency call-ups. Here’s a prospect who oozes potential, I’d love to see him just break down the door and force the Leafs to call him up.
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Just turned pro, he’s a converted winger and we’re looking to him to be running the power play in the long term. We’re better off signing someone on a short term deal and giving him time to develop.
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Although, come to think of it, Komisarek has two years left, so there’s an overlap there where Gardiner/Blacker/both should be ready by the time we’re kicking Komi out the door. Hopefully.
No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
3 IIRC. One more year at high $ and then two years where we have traded him to a cap basement team… Hey Islanders…
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he's been
a converted winger for a few years, it’s not like he JUST converted.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Gardiner absolutely starts with the Marlies next year, but since Bieksa would be an idiot to take a 1-year contract (or even a 3-year, for that matter), the question is still valid.
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Beauch took a 3 year in a pretty similar situation… No?
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He was 28, but true.
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Totally want Bieksa, wasnt sold on him before the post season but hes playing really well. he’d look very nice in blue and white
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
except
I can’t stand the guy… so I’d rather not take him.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The Mike Ribiero effect.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
meh, that really doesnt matter to Burke though. I couldnt (and still cant) stand Komisarek… but here we are. As long as they play hockey well, I dont really care if he’s a douche or not.
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*note: Mike Komisarek cannot play hockey well and that signing totally backfired…
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Really nhlcheapshot
6 mins ago
We’re still a ways away, but somehow getting a #1C is obviously top priority, however it happens. Lots of cap space, improvement in the farm system, and if it all goes to hell again, at least we have our own pick next year! (for now) Puempel would be a dream pickup at #25
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He’s just stalk-piling them to use in the future.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I am baffled
why people keep putting Aulie ahead of Gunnarsson in the top 4.
The younger kid has less experience, fewer points, worse numbers, and generally is pretty far behind in experience if not ability at the moment.
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Its because he was paired with Phaneuf for like 2 months
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o n t h i s
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I spaced it out way more, but the auto-formatting killed it. :(
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uh, didnt Phaneuf and Aulie play together after the Kaberle trade until the end of the season?
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by Matt_Roberts on May 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I just meant, why does this make people think he is ahead of Gunnar in the long run. Gunnar played with Schenn.
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In March and April
Gunnarsson averaged almost 24 minutes of ice time nightly.
Aulie averaged 21:35 in ice time nightly.
Gunnarsson is ahead of Aulie…
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
and? That’s because we had nothing better to fill the breach… that doesn’t mean Aulie is a top pairing D man all of a sudden.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand
you’re just explaining why people think that way… I just think it’s a bit silly on their part… no offense intended to you for passing it on.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yea you nailed it, just pasing along why it seems hes penciled in the top 4. If you play with Phaneuf for a long enough stretch, its almost assumed. but im with you, I have Gunanr ahead of Aulie as well at this point.
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I must say, that the regulars in here make this blog what it is. While I’ve known of the existance of PPP for a while now, I’ve been frequenting it for only a short time now. You guys are hilarious, rabid, and relentless. I come in here to read the comment section more so than the actual stories themselves. They brighten up my day and provide many chuckles as I trudge on at work. While the mere quantity of posts shows that most of you truly have no lives, I must say that I can’t hold it against you as fans of the most beloved team. While I could never keep up, I will enjoy reading (I mean, seriously, going from the “Ottawa Senators” to some kind of a “dog taco”, it’s priceless, you can’t make this stuff up!). Carry on!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on May 19, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t need anyone to tell me I’m awesome, but I’ll take it.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i need someone to tell me, I CRAVE THE COMPLEMENTS
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and Jared
this is why you lead most of us in the number of comments.
Getting a life was mentioned in that comment somewhere.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
life?
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yanno
that thing none of us have…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, I used to have one of those back in college, good times
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Evaluate and rank me!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate that I know that it’s Nick Lachey
jessica simpson’s ex husband I believe, singer for 98 degrees
elephant shell
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I’ll never understand why people are embarrassed to admit they know who terrible celebrities are.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's nothing
Check this out:
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
I used to really love Giguere and then the Leafs acquired him.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Apparently we got the only Giguere available for the price of a Toskala. And Blake’s horrible contract.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
We should all celebrate this upcoming season: We have none of blake, toskala, or giguere. Finally, the complete payoff for the Toskala trade.
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I loved him for his first two games.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No surprise
SportsnetSpec
Blackhawks sign G Cory Crawford to a 3-yr deal.
Wonder what the pricetag is, and if (or if not) it will factor into Reimer’s deal.
Probably not, as slightly different ages and contracts, but similar situations…. both took over from a Veteran and ran with it when given the opportunity.
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I'm guessing
they are glad and he looks more legit as a future number 1 than Niemi did last year… although Niemi has done well this season for the Sharks.
I’m guessing he’ll be cheaper than Niemi was going to be after a Stanley Cup victory.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
crawford was incredible in that game 7
elephant shell
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yes yes
he was.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, but letting Niemi go had a LOT to do with their cap disaster last summer. I doubt they wanted to let him go.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how the sharks hooped them with the super nintendo chalmers offer sheet
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of Sharks fans believe that was their plan all along.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
it was win win for the sharks, they either got a young 2 way defender they needed or they could poach Niemi, in the end they got a goaler to replace nabby and traded for White to fill the defender void
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were Chicago I would’ve walked on SNC. They would’ve gotten a 1st,2nd and 3rd for him and they could’ve acquired someone better and/or cheaper using those picks. But hey I’m not a cup winning GM with a Hall-of-fame uber legend father so…
yeah, they gave up a lot for a player who is pretty much a gunnar clone on a better team
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was just a 1st and a 3rd, but I thought they should have let him go too.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
what’d he have 10 points this year? Also, he wasn’t a gunnar clone… he’s worse.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
should have specified, at the point they matched the offer sheet he and gunnar were very comparable, then he took a huge nose dive
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
if you put Gunnar on Chicago he’d look a lot better… but yeah I get your point.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
lots of people under rate gunnar though, probably because he has zero flash and no sexy nickname
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
gunnar isn’t bad
I actually think it’s one of the better nicknames
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
yeah, but its just a shortened version of his actual name, so it doesnt have the same snap to it
I do like Gun Show though
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
probably not
having Niemi AND Crawford would have been pretty sweet.
They’ll recover eventually… they’re going to regret that Hossa contract for a while though… at least they got a Cup out of it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
if Campbell
can play a full year healthy next year, and if some of their prospects take another step, then they’re legit contenders again next year.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta think if Bolland was healthy the vancouver series would have been different
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t really have much of an effect in the last two games though
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Malholtra could have been as big a difference for Vancouver.
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Yep
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
yeah, but bolland did have that effect, and then he slowed way down
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So in other words he was just hot for a game or three at a really good time. Sounds like Bergenheim…
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yeah, but unlike bergenheim he was injured and clearly not at 100 percent
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
True. I just don’t really buy that Bolland is as awesome as he seemed in this years playoffs (or last years for that matter). He doesn’t look as good in the regular season.
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he is the new byfuglian, a crash and banger with decent hands, playoff performer
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was a combination of him coming back strengthening their C position (they had Frolik and Dowell at 2 and 3!? Not very good) plus the canucks absolutely shitting the bed that made him look like playoff jesus. When they actually tried to play hockey again in Games 6 and 7 he didn’t have the same impact
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
I think he tends to see some pretty solid competition.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, winning a cup sort of makes all the contract signings that happened leading up to it a lot more excusable.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah see I don’t think they’re going to regret it… they obviously didn’t expect him to be super productive all 12 years… I would sign someone to a kovalchuk deal this summer if it meant a Cup in the next few years
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Also cheers to my buddy's little bro
for signing an ELC with the Rangers today.
http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=2026
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
his OHL
numbers weren’t that good.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Never said he's amazing
but he’s my buddy’s bro, so good on him for earning a contract.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
make him buy you something
he’s a little brother you said right? nouggies should work.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha – he’s 6’2" (I’m 5’11") and an athlete… if anything he’d be nougie-ing me.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
cool, what level should he be at next season?
elephant shell
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Maybe junior one more year? Not sure.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
NM he'll be 20 by then
Unless he goes back as an overager.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
so if all goes well he’ll be in the A?
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
I honestly have no idea, I just saw the deal on the internet come up. Had no idea he was even close to a deal. I thought he’d be focusing on the Mem cup (going as a goalie for Owen Sound Attack)
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The Goalie Guild said he had an injury through the season, so he’ll probably go back as an overager. The Rangers also have Biron is still signed next year, with Chad Johnson and Talbot signed in the AHL. He’s either overaging – which isn’t abnormal for a CHL goalie – or ECHL.
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so do contracts have a separate pay scale for ECHL players?
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I have no idea.
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lots of goalies
in the CHL are overagers.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm shocked it's a 3 year deal
though.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
they could be 2… particularly if you’re undrafted… but I really don’t know.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He was drafted by NYR in 2009 in this case.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
that didn’t show on the capgeek page… nm then.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
according to the score, it’s 3 years, $8 million
maybe a bit more than I would’ve expected but really not bad
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
That's higher than I expected too.
Not horrible, but I hope that’s not a benchmark for Reimer…. $2.66M cap hit.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that's high
Reimer didn’t play in the playoffs… and he played fewer games than Crawford did.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford
saw action in 57 reg season games, and another 7 playoff games… he’s proven he can at least carry the load (for one year minimum).
Reimer still hasn’t played over 40 NHL games in a single season. Also Crawford is 3 years older and had more AHL experience.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it has the most to do with the age/AHL experience. And this is likely his last RFA contract, while Reimer has 1 more in him after this.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. That was an RFA deal. Chicago now has about 6M in cap space and only 15 players under contract next year. Stalberg, Kopecky, Brower, Frolik, and Campoli all need to be re-signed, and they need another goalie. One of those players’ rights is probably gonna get moved, I would think…
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Frolik was a steal.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan Henry
is leaving Dynamo Minsk… where to I have no idea!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
and next time someone swipes
at the KHL, can I just point out that Henry went from posting 31 points in 76 AHL games for Rochester as a 24 year old to posting 2 points in 36 games in the KHL… and another 2 points in 6 playoff games.
It’s not an easy league to score in.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s especially difficult if you’re not very good.
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well this is true
but Henry isn’t a completely atrocious player.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He put up 2 points in 36 games in the KHL.
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yes
and? That doesn’t mean he’s shitty… I’m saying the KHL is a low scoring league, and it’s actually not as bad as many think.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He put up one goal and one assist in 36 games. Now, it’s not necessarily an indicator that he’s a bad player, but I’m not sure how low scoring the KHL has to be before one could consider that performance “not shitty.”
Bonus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCk2y1WRBxk
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oh
Dynamo released him outright… I think it was pretty shitty.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
woah
what’s this about Oscar Moller signing with Skelleftea for next year? I just saw it.
He’s gone back to Sweden!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
2 year deal
he’s sick of bouncing between the AHL and NHL.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation of the AIK Skelleftea website posting below
MOLLER FINISHED FOR TWO YEARS
Today we got the endorsement of two years from the 22-year-old Oscar Moller, who now returned to Sweden after playing in the NHL / AHL.
Skellefteå AIK’s squad continues to be filled in and with the talented striker Oscar Moller opted to sign for the club.
- It feels really good to be able to associate itself with such an interesting player of his caliber, "said sports director Lars Johansson.
Moller left the age of 17 for Sweden game in North America. After the first season he was drafted as the # 52 in the second round of the Los Angeles Kings, a club he has played 87 NHL games with.
Jackson describes him as a tough power forward with aggressive characteristics.
- Oscar is an offensive player with good skating and shooting. He is also a very physical playing power forward
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently there is an out in the contract so he can go back to the NHL when he wants though
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I still
think it’s interesting… LA’s lost a pretty solid prospect as a result.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I’ve read of LAK fans, they weren’t impressed with his game at the NHL level yet. Still has work to do.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredrik
Modin retired…
Iari Filppula has abandoned the Detroit system to go back and sign with jokerit in Helskini.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Karlis Skrastins
has gone back to play for Lokomotiv Yaroslavl in the KHL
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
prospects
and European players that are crossing to play in Europe.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ilari
Filppula was Valteri’s little brother I think.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
or is
I should say… unless he’s disowned for going back to Finland.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK THEM AND THEIR LACK OF AN APPROPRIATE RATIO OF CONSONANTS TO VOWELS IN THEIR NAMES!
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as for
Modin, shame on you.. he’s an ex Leaf.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ivan Vishnevskiy
has abandoned the blackhawks farm team in Rockford for Atlant Mytischi in the KHL
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lot of players abandoning the NHL ship all at once! Not exactly big names, but names nonetheless.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m wondering if it’s related to the upcoming CBA.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And lack of likely playing time or being forced down to the minors.
I’m sure lots of Euro players would rather play back home than the AHL.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
Vishnevskiy was part of the exchange for Ladd/Byfuglien/Eager if I recall from Atlanta… losing him for nothing doesn’t make that trade look any better.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
nope
nevermind… he was a draft pick of Dallas back in 2006 with good offensive game that never really got a shot in the NHL.
He had 8 goals and 24 points in 51 games for “Texas” in 2009-10 in the AHL… then he was traded.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
getting moved to Chicago
likely sealed it.. there’s no way he was going to get a realistic shot with how stacked their D is.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
former
1st rounder, 27th overall… that’s relatively significant.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He was their top prospect! Traded to Atlanta for Lehtonen, many from Dallas were upset and feared they over paid. Then he was traded (I believe) for Ladd.
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Dallas’s* top prospect before the trade for Lehtonen. Should have been clearer, sorry.
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I thought I remembered that name from somewhere. Lehtonen is starting, and was pretty solid for Dallas this year – that was a steal of a trade in hindsight.
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yeah
Lehtonen for a guy that’s playing in the KHL? Good deal for Dallas.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I also find it interesting
that very little of these moves are being noticed in the MSM due to the playoff hype.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
SBNation is aware though
If you go to those teams’ sites they’re all over it.
mirtle too.
The twitters know all.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just
reading elite-prospects.com’s transfer list.
I don’t follow twitter, and I don’t read a lot of the other SBNation sites.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There are a number of other really good ones, Copper N Blue, Japers Rink, Broad Street Hockey all have good communities and some great postings.
Apparently Nucks Misconduct too but jeez I can’t post there without getting flamed.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
oh I'm aware of them
and I do read them from time to time… I just don’t do so regularly.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been doing a bit more lately now that Leafs news is pretty much at a standstill.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of context that could be a very NSFW comment.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We did? Sorry about that. We’re quite nice people (except that Semi Colon bastard)
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by Yankee Canuck on May 19, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Reppin’ the Blue & White ain’t easy.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
screw you too!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Some guys
Are possibly coming back though. Talk of Radulov coming back, one of the Canucks prospects is coming over from the KHL…
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
I’ll believe Radulov when I see it. Hopefully he doesn’t fuck with NSH’s offseason plans by dangling that “maybe i’ll come back” all summer.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would pay anything for them unless they think they can somehow convince him to come over?
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d trade NSH a conditional 2nd for his rights with a non-conditional 7th to sweeten the pot right now.
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I wonder if playing in Nashville was hte reason he left, or if he just doesn’t want to play in NA.
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he wanted
more money… NSH wouldn’t/couldn’t give it to him.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Was that it?
Just money? You’d think that they would have just traded him like Kessel. Obviously he could have just gone to the KHL (as he did), but Nashville doesn’t get anything out of it.
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Wasn’t it him that didn’t want to play trap hockey? Or was that one of hitchcock’s players?
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zherdev?
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On that note, what the hell is the matter with him? He probably has as much innate talent as any Leaf forward not named Kessel. Is he really so nuts that he can’t put it together again or at all?
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
80 points in 54 KHL games last year. Yeah, I’d do that trade. Only question is with our RWs – Kessel, MacArthur, Armstrong, Brown – where would you play him?
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He’s probably better than MacArthur so
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I was thinking “is he too much of a puck hog / shooter for the MGK line”, but I double checked, and he never broke 25G in Russia, so MGR could work.
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uh, I guess that would be KGR, rather (Kulemin-Grabovski-Radulov)
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Unless combined in this hypothetical scenario is a Kulemin trade for Stastny.
BOOM 2 Unicorns at once.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Anywhere he wants?
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
it was modin-sundin and hoglund for a while? Maybe I’m wrong… I think that was too early… Hoglund wasn’t here yet.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you might be right
Berezin and Modin were both quite young at that point.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he's right...
Sunding had Berezin and Modin supporting him on the wings for a little while there in the mid-late 90s (this was after Gilmour’s departure). I remember one road game where the announcer after a goal pronounced Berezin’s name as “Berez-een” and Joe Bowan teased “whoa, the Leafs now have a whole Swedish line: Sundin, Modin, and now Berezeen!”
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on May 19, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t it kind of ironic that it’s now Bowen who can’t pronounce names to save his life?
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Modin was always one of those guys who I expected to be more like Sundin and was thus disappointed, but I was also 14 at the time and an idiot.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Fredrik Modin is yet another player “The Leafs let get away” who wasn’t very good.
See: Sullivan, Steve. Boyes, Brad.
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Right.
As I said this morning on Twitter plenty of other teams have let much better players “get away” than the Leafs yet that’s our reputation. Next time anyone who ever played for a different team has a big night I’m going to tweet all about how it must be a tough night for X team’s fans.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Some teams let good players get away.
Other teams trade them away for Greg Pateryn.
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Some teams choose Wade Redden.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
See the problem with this line of thinking is
the argument or idea that players that put up 7 consecutive 60+ point seasons, including two with over 70 points (Sullivan), or 40 goal seasons when they’re 25 (Boyes) “aren’t very good”.
Modin won a Stanley Cup with TB, and had two seasons with 30+ goals and another with 29. He wasn’t amazing, but he wasn’t a bad player. If we’d have kept him we likely never would have had to bring in Renberg or Hoglund… just thinking about that should bother you a tad.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
any player
that can hit the 60 point plateau is “good” … maybe not an all-star… but pretty far above average and worthy of a top line spot on most NHL teams. Anyone that does it 7 years in a row, and can post more than one 70 point season is definitely a top line player in the NHL somewhere.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure but so good that we need to be constantly reminded of their existence?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wait for Champagne to break into the league next year and win the Calder.
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Conn Smythe. And Vezina.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't arguing that
but Chemmy said the following:
Fredrik Modin is yet another player "The Leafs let get away" who wasn’t very good.
See: Sullivan, Steve. Boyes, Brad.
The idea that they “aren’t very good” is what I was disputing.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen PFACNF
We have 12,723 media reporters dedicated to the Toronto Maple Leafs. If they’re not digging up these kind of stats they’d be fired! UNEMPLOYMENT IS A FACTOR HERE.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would I care what her face looks like? I already saw that part I care about.
/sexistremarks
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Hockeysfuture, Leafs rank 9th in prospect depth
Ahead of EDM (10th). Really not sure I agree with that.
1 more #1 pick will certainly change that though.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/13076/hockeys_future_organizational_rankings_spring2011110/
Top 5 Prospects: 1. Nazem Kadri, C, 2. Joe Colborne, C, 3. Jake Gardiner, D, 4. James Reimer, G, 5. Keith Aulie, D. Lost to Graduation: Tyler Bozak, Carl Gunnarsson, Jonas Gustavsson. Lost to Trade: Mikhail Stefanovich [OH NOES].
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Edmonton graduated Hall, MPS, Eberle, and Dubnyk. When you take those players out, it doesn’t surprise me that we end up ahead of them, simply because it becomes a positional depth competition.
Some of the top teams surprise me, though. I’d never really thought of Florida, Columbus, or the Rangers as being particularly deep teams, though I guess it makes sense.
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Ya I forgot how they classify prospects slightly differently than most sites.
Without those 4 obviously their depth drops off.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Columbus seems odd to me. NYR surprises me, because, well, SATHER. Florida doesn’t though, Tallon is no schlub.
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Tallon is no schlub, but he hasn’t been there very long…
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CLB is always up there because they always have high draft picks
Johansson + Filitov is a damn fine #1 and #2
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I also really really like STL’s youth (Berglund, Oshie, Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk) and prospects (Tarasenko, Schwartz).
Like, a lot.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting thing on them
I have heard a lot of people mention how Ottawa was smart to trade their pick last year for Runblad (which is a fair statement as Runblad looks like a great prospect). But seeing as that pick was used for Tarasenko which side do you think won out?
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I think
Tarasenko is better long term. But he’s also Russian, so who knows?
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t know much about Tarasenko because I don’t follow much junior/european hockey. But I have heard really good stuff.
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Rundblad
looked ok at the Worlds… not stellar or anything… but passable as a bottom pairing guy on a silver medal team.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It's one of those trades where both teams got good players.
Rundblad looks really really good.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The most interesting thing to me is that Reimer is #4!
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They rank them based on their weird potential system though, like the “7.0 C” rather than hard performance.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
they shift
their rankings a lot from year to year… which is valid in some ways, but indicates how inaccurate their assessments are in another.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
All it's good for
is putting everything in one place… their prediction skills are pretty minimal.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t go that far. They’re a fairly objective source (in that they don’t have one team bias), so its nice for that.
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yeah
but they rank guys highly that never pan out…
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
and they rank guys low
that do…
so like I said… predictive skills are minimal… which makes them as bad as everyone else I guess.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Most amateur predictions are pretty bad, especially when it comes to junior leagues.
Every asshole has an opinion I guess.
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Kadri
So everywhere I look people are talking about how he does as our third line winger or moving up into a top 6 winger. Are people pretty much sold that he will not be an NHL centre?
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For now. Things change so fast.
In a year we could be talking about he’s the greatest natural C for his age in the league.
If he out of nowhere start showing huge chemistry with Kessel and Lupul, why would we pull him from that position?
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by nhlcheapshot on May 19, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
They have been forced to take those down.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really know the whole story, some Bolts radio personality or something complained.
They probably wrote about it at SCOC.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only are you correct, but the title of the post is hilarious
Bruins kowtow to small market radio hack; Take down signs poking fun at Lightning fans
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Should have read: “Lightning fan tells Bruins to get off his porch”.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently the same person that was offended by the Bruins ads also frequently makes homophobic, sexist, and racist comments on his radio show. A lot of Bruins fans are calling the FCC on him.
by YakovMironov on May 19, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
Those ads are hilarious.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That is awesome. The other one is pretty sweet too.
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W/R/T the recent ongoing in Montreal with the business being fined for displaying a Habs sweater it shows how people’s attitudes towards things like intellectual copyrights have changed. Most people see it as harmless.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
I feel like people would have been more willing to understand the NHL’s point of view and their rights.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying I agree with the NHL still think it was stupid to fine him. Just saying that many people in my generation feel like intellectual copyright is somewhat meaningless.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 19, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not meaningless
if someone else is presenting your work as their own…as I think many in here can remember from the issues with the Toronto Sun and their translation abilities.
What’s at issue is how the image is being presented and what it’s being presented for.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think its meaningless at all, but I think he is right that many of our (plea’s and mine) generation does think it is. With the wide spread of information, mixed with some general anti-authority outlook I can see what he is talking about.
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yes
the complete lack of respect for the work of others is actually something I encounter regularly in the classroom. The internet has ruined a lot of things.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah yes you are a teacher. I am sure you see it all the time.
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the number of kids
that don’t get what plagiarism is… let alone what is wrong with it… is astounding.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
of course
in a world were so few people have original thoughts of their own, and the majority act as some sort of walking re-tweet device, the less I’m surprised by that.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Further, its incredible how they still don’t get it when they get to Uni…. And I entered uni almost 5 years ago when facebook was new and twitter nonexistent.
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well
the universities don’t really have an easy way to prevent it.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
aside from
just punishing when they catch people.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No my point
Is that people actually DO NOT understand what plagiarism is when they get to first year. ie they do something on an essay in first year and fail it because they plagiarized and are shocked.
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oh
well that doesn’t surprise me… a lot of high school teachers let it slide.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s also completely bizarre in the context: “You can cheer for this team, but don’t use their name or logo while you do it.” This isn’t appropriating the habs’ logo for the “Montreal Canadieeeeens,” it’s a fan that’s supporting the local team…
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yeah
next they’ll want royalties from people that do any sort of work while wearing their logo.
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by Steve Burtch on May 19, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
should i start a GDT for the Bruins/Caps?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
woo!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
uh. lots I guess. or nothing. I’m not really sure what’s new any more.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
the beer is really good here. REALLY good. my new job isn’t 100% amazing as I hoped it would be. being alone (away from my wife) kinda blows.
what’s new in L-dot/T-dot?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
NOt too much. Exams next week. Then I am back in T-dot.
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you gonna ace ’em?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not to stressed. But I have definitely been on here a lot as I have barely even gotten dressed this week as I am on my comp studying ever day.
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heh. i know that feeling. like me while i was writing my thesis.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That series never happened. But please start a gdt
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by caps my mean bolts. i can’t keep this shit striaght anymore.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wait. fanshots have changed. i’m confused…
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If there’s a Boston-Vancouver final, Leafs fans are fucked. Either we hear about Vancouver winning forever and ever. Or we hear about how we have up cup-winners Rask and Seguin. Either way it blows.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thorton raising the cup would crush my bruins fan best friend
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by JaredFromLondon on May 19, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
According to JP though the historical success from down 2-0 is 12.9%
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the historical chances of Vancouver chocking are like 85%
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on May 19, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
@globeandmail Atlanta Thrashers moving to Winnipeg: http://tgam.ca/C0zU
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@TGfireandice The Globe and Mail is reporting that Thrashers to Winnipeg is done. Official announcement coming Tuesday: http://bit.ly/kEsmXY
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Update
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Multiple sources tell ESPN.com no deal done to sell/move Atlanta Thrashers.
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DarrenDreger Update on Atl-Wpg coming up in 2nd int. Will it get done? Likely. Is it done? Not yet, according to key sources.
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they don’t make Claratin strong enough for that story.
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Ugh, someone really needs to do some cleaning in here.
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