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Why I Can't Cheer For The Canucks

I know it's already the second round of the playoffs and everyone else has already decided who they want to see win, but here's why I can't get behind “Canada's Team”:

To be fair, I want to cheer for Vancouver. Last Canadian team standing and all that. But... Nope, just can't do it. It's not because I particularly dislike anybody on their team, I mean, I still kinda cheer for the Penguins and the Sharks when the Leafs are out despite Matt Cooke and Dany Heatley. Plus I'm still a Leafs fan despite Brett Lebda this year and the never ending parade of idiocy that was the Antropov And Ponikarovsky Show featuring (at various times) Pavel Kubina, Aki Berg, and Vesa Toskala over the past decade never mind some of the more “questionable” managerial decisions over the years. But Vancouver...?

The only thing I can put my finger on for why I can't be bothered to care about their push this year and to willingly cheer against them in as much as my general apathy allows is... the fans. Let me explain:

In the “old” days of Trevor Linden, Kirk McLean, Pavel Bure, and Alexander Mogilny I would've loved this run. Aside from when they actually went on a run in '94. Burn in hell you bastards; back then I still had optimism and a positive attitude (both about the Leafs and life in general). But now... not so much. I just get the feeling that the fan-base of the Canucks have become, well, “arrogant douchebags” to put it nicely. I'm not even talking about bandwagoners at this point, those are to be expected. I mean the real fans that have followed the team for years and are actually emotionally involved in their fate. It seems, to put it frankly, like they assume they deserve a Stanley Cup this year. Like this is all just some sort of formality before their coronation and they're entitled to the Cup because they've become so dominant in the regular season. Yet, if it were to happen, they would become so self-congratulatory over how much they've overcome and how significant this first Stanley Cup is for the organization that the universe might implode upon itself given the weight of their collective smugness.

Make no mistake, I know that us Leaf fans are going to be assholes to everyone else when we win next year. And the next next year. And the next next next year. And... yeah. But to be fair: we've fucking earned it. If it ever happens that the Leafs win the Cup in my lifetime I will be screaming and cheering in the streets and lording it over everyone I know how “I knew it was going to happen” for that entire year... until the Leafs are eliminated from playoff contention the next March. But... come on. We've been shit on be everyone for years now (both the team and the fans) so we'll deserve to gloat and finally be able to stop saying “fuck Kerry Fraser” in ever discussion of the team. The Canucks? I can't remember anything that's really bonded their fanbase together like that or really gotten the rest of us to fall in line behind them. Maybe that's just ignorance on my part for not knowing the history of the team as well as I do the Leafs over the past 20-odd years (fuck Kerry Fraser), but I can't help the way I feel.

And I feel like Canucks fans are too smug and self-satisfied as it is and that would only get worse if they actually win. And honestly, if you live in Canada and yet still bitch about how it's cold when it's only -5: you're a douchebag and my living-in-Saskatchewan-40-below ass has no sympathy for you then and nothing but apathy and mild, passive-aggressive, cheering-for-their-failure for your team now.

Plus you guys only came into the league in 1970.  As far as "time served" without a Stanley Cup, we still call dibs.

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by JaredFromLondon on May 4, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I fuq’n hate prima donna Luongo. He is such a Drama Queen.

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by FLYERROB on May 4, 2011 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

As one of those smug entitled canucks fans

let me try to explain some of it to you.
1: With the exception of Ottawa fans (and even some of them), EVERY fan of other teams in canada points to their own’storied history’ and our lack of mugs. Yeah, some of them may have not won a cup since the year i was born, which was, btw, before the canucks were even a team, and some of them won like 5 in a period that ended over 20 years ago and some of them won 1 cup and have really done squat since, but we still get it. Every day of every season. Not just from fellow Canadians either… I don’t think any team in the league (or really any league anywhere except maybe the cubs) get’s the ‘They sure are cocky for a team that’s never won anything’ comment as much as we do. Should we be so douchey as to point out that the last time some teams won the cup there wasn’t even ubiquitous color tv (heck in canada there wasn’t even ubiquitous TV…), and that the last time other teams won there were no cell phones, internet, hybrid cars and ‘good rock music’ meant hair as tall as the body, the only response we get is “(insert cup number here) CUPS TO YOUR ZERO!”. So yeah, we’re a bit sensitive about that.

2: Long time fans of this team have seen very good teams with much promise fail us over and over again. You say we’re smug and feel like we deserve the cup, but frankly virtually every real fan has that little voice in the back of our heads saying ‘henrik, daniel, and kesler will all get injured next game and we’ll lose this series’ or ‘someone will bertuzzi somebody and it will kill the locker rooms’ drive’ or something like that. So, frankly we aren’t all that full of entitlement, just nervous excitement.

3: Canucks have all these wierd and not quite factual shots against them. Burrows is a cheap shot diver? He hasn’t dived in 3 seasons. And the hair pulling was bad, but tell u what…i’ll fishhook your cheek and leave u no option but my long curly locks (actually I have short str hair, but trying to be relevant to the incident) and see how u extricate yourself. Luongo is overrated and can’t win big games? You mean, like the olympic gold? How about his 2.11 GAA this year, bested only by timmy thomas? How about a team with the lowest goals against in the league and yet the highest goals for? No trap here. Which brings up the wierd thing of people who still call vancouver a trap team. Huh? How about the sedin sisters? Back to back art ross winners, one hart and possibly a second one. They face the biggest, best, grindiest d-men in the league every single night and unlike, oh i dunno, certain 2 #1 draft choice players they don’t disappear and become periphery players. Uh…until this series against nashville apparently, sigh…

4: The Bertuzzi incident. People STILL get on the fans about that, and still call the team dirty and rough because of it. Really? Seriously, REALLY? Most of us were as pissed as the rest of u at him for that. Even those of us who were huge fans of him before it.

5: Raffi Torres makes a hit on Seabrook and everyone’s panties get in a twist. Suspend him for 10 games! 20! Forever! 2 games later the EXACT SAME HIT is put on Bieksa…crickets chirping. Ryan Kesler get’s hooked, punched, grabbed and impeded for 5 seconds right in front of a ref who finally has to blow the whistle on it even though it’s playoff ot, and everyone calls him a cheater for it. Seriously, wtf? I guess the fact that nobody complained about the direct hit into the boards right on the numbers (textbook definition of boarding, btw) that wasn’t called about 10 seconds before that doesn’t meant squack. These things happen all the time…and kinda makes us a bit angry, not to mention depressed. All anyone can talk about is how Gillis made a little speech to the media about uneven reffing, which, if u watched that series, even chicago fans noted. Yet, kesler’s the bad guy for drawing a penalty in a game that had even penalties, and we’re hypocrites for it? Aggravating, that. Speaking of Kesler diving to draw a penalty, btw, anyone who isn’t a vancouver fan see Patrick Kane fall clutching his face in game 6 when the closest canuck to him had his back to him and arms down? Nobody comments on that world class soccer dive… funniest part of it was the ref saw it and came up and snow showered him while he was down. I’ll give u all the luongo one from the other night…but if u don’t want that penalty don’t go all Sean Avery on a goalie.

Frankly, the Canucks somehow have a combination the ‘Broadstreet bullies’ rep of the Philadelphia Prongers and the ‘Tin Hat conspiracy theorists’ rep of the Detroit Old Wings, and the ‘Boring Trap’ rep of the New Jersey Devils without really being any of these things.

So yeah, we’ll party in the streets if we go all the way. We’ll be damn proud of this team for finally doing the city a solid. I doubt we’ll riot…that really was a bit of a one off. We may make some cheap comments about the Oiler’s umpteenth ‘rebuilding season’ or how the Flames mortgaged their future for…well for nothing, really, or how Montreal fans are the worst in the league for various wacky things they do like booing their goalie in the preseason. Some of us may poke toronto’s 44 year dry spell, but in the end, we’ll mainly just be happy we don’t have to hear ‘your team’s never won a cup so you shouldn’t cheer on a win by them’ again.

"I'd take Twitchy over Rome any day of the week" - Chuckles 'MikeGillis' Canuckles
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity.

by Twitchy2010 on May 5, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

er...

if we win ;)

"I'd take Twitchy over Rome any day of the week" - Chuckles 'MikeGillis' Canuckles
Dropping F-bombs since the early 70's.
'Nucks Misconduct Sr. VP of Inappropriateness and Questionable Conduct, second director of immaturity.

by Twitchy2010 on May 5, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

EPIC Twitch'

I have no words to add.

Nuck’s Misconduct Bishop, 1st United Church of Luongod "I don’t know what he was trying to do there, but I’m not intimidated by him," Kesler said Tuesday. "He’s a good player, but nobody scares me on the ice. I played against Shea Weber and that beard the last round. KesLORD on Evil Joe 5/17/11

by vancitydan on May 18, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about reading the big long tl;dr post above this, but this sums it up nicely.

Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city.

by TheOtherAndrew on May 6, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, I have no problem cheering for Vancouver (insofar as I’ll “cheer” for anyone in this year’s playoffs). Sure Vancouver has some douche-y fans that will heckle us if they win, but really…what fan base doesn’t have those kind of fans? Besides, we’re all going to be downright insufferable when we eventually win….

by Matt97 on May 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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