A slow Sunday in Leafs land
by birky on Jun 12, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintThings will ramp up for Toronto after the conclusion of the Stanley Cup Final, but right now there's nothing but rumor and speculation. Like a show on MTV, there's no real substance. There are still interesting storylines elsewhere in the NHL though. For example, the hated Vancouver Canucks will attempt to win their first championship tomorrow night in Boston. I say attempt because, as we all know, the meltdown by Roberto Luongo is inevitable. Then we'll get an entire summer of Vancouver writers telling us how the Canucks were robbed. It's going to be delicious. Go Bruins.
Follow after the jump for a few Leafs links and other news from around the NHL...
Sunday links:
Is Wolski a fit with the Leafs?
VLM thinks the Leafs might have a chance at another MacArthur-type pick-up
2011 Toronto Maple Leafs off-season: who will be re-signed?
Lukas Hardonk of the Hockey Writers who should and shouldn't be back
ESPN reports that only the Winter Classic will take place next year
Hulsizer takes another shot at the Phoenix market
Salming, Ley, Turnbull, & more
New photo goodness over at Vintage Leafs
Devils to file for arbitration with Parise?
In Lou We Trust examines the possibility of the Devils taking drastic steps to keep the young forward
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Lukas Hardonk of the Hockey Writers...
I tried, but I cannot stop giggling about that last name.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jun 12, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
After 8 years of no playoffs
the writers in T.O, must be recycling stories.
Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.
aw cute.
Sometimes I find math hard too though.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin' numbers
How do they work
"I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
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They work
a lot better when you weren’t born with extra fingers and toes.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jun 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
What? Why? 3 would still be 3 and 5 would still be 5 etc
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit
missed it by a year.Wait…I was including next year as well. Leafs fans are already hot and bothered about next year because they have “found” a new savior in Reimer.
Of course if I believe the rumors on here maybe you will get Stamkos and Richards. Dream big.
Bieksa reminds me of Han Solo, except without the charm...or the Wookie at his side, unless you count Alberts.
I miss trolls that had good insults, this one is just kinda sad
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeap. So many people here that want us to get Richards and Stamkos. It’s not like there was an FTB the other day making fun of a Stamkos trade rumor.
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If the Canucks win the Cup, I hope they win it in Boston. I can’t imagine the horror of the planned in-house celebration at Vancouver GM Place/Rogers Centre/Diving Bell (or whatever they’re calling their home rink this week).
When you consider the Canucks take to the ice to a 20 year old middling track and the nonsense that went down when they won the Conference, a Stanley Cup win in Vancouver is all but guaranteed to look like the closing moments of a private school prom from 1986.
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I’m with you on that one. It’s still going to be agony watching them dancing in the streets to “Elevation” if it happens.
I dunno… with a game seven causing Vancouverites to chew off their nails with worry, nerves and fears of impending conspiracies, it would create a perfect storm that could culminate into a celebration/riot of such proportions that the whole city just falls into the ocean…
… that’d be pretty fucking cool to watch, even if mindless and aggravating. Like a Michael Bay film.
I’m conflicted. I have game six tickets and want to see the Cup presented to someone.
On the other hand ugh Vancouver.
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i hope you are wearing your Kessel jersey
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
I have no desire to see dirty players like Marchand and Chara win, or those arrogant forwards. Sure, people will say why they hate the Canucks and want our enemy Boston to win, but I’m not changing my vote, Go Canucks!
What about dirty players like Lapierre, Torres, and Burrows?
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Did you just try to use evidence against a troll?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jun 12, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he is a troll unfortunately… He (I believe) is a Leafs fan who is the epitome of the MSM fan…
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I was out of town this week and I got the prints. They look awesome. I’ll take a picture of htem tomorrow and email them to you :)
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Thanks man, that will be awesome. All I’ve sen is the digital previews that show on the site. Interested to see what the real deal looks like!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jun 12, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
marchand is questionable
most bruins fans are sick of his shit too. chara dirty? im not even gona explain that to u. i didnt go to college to teach kindergarten
14 down 2 to go,
For Horton!!!
I know people love what the Leafs got out of Macarthur again and want us to try to hit another homerun in free agency (like Wolski), but it really seems like most of the people doing that are completely ignoring out depth chart. Like it or not, 7 of our 8 winger slots are already taken for next year. Macarthur, Kulemin, Kessel, and Lupul will almost certainly be our top 4 wingers. Colby’s spot on the 3rd line is locked up. Brown and Orr will be playing on the 4th line. That leaves one 3rd line wing slot open, and right now Kadri seems to odds-on favourite to play there.
So when someone says that we should take a chance on a winger, presumably what they’re saying is that we should sign someone and see whether or not they can outplay Kadri in camp. How many players do you really think are going to be willing to sign here with such low odds of making the lineup?
One of the reasons that Macarthur was able to break through last year is because we were pretty weak on the wing heading into the season, with just one guy who had ever scored 30 goals and only 2 others (Versteeg and Armstrong) who had ever hit 20. So there was lots of ice time to go around, and Macarthur took advantage of that opportunity. But there is no opportunity to eat up big minutes playing alongside guys like Grabo and Kulie on our roster this year.
The only way this changes is if Burke trades one of our wingers and doesn’t get a winger in return. But until that happens, there just isn’t a space in our roster that’s open.
Orr needs to be a healthy scratch most nights next year, or made captain of the Marlies. We need to be able to run 4 lines nd he doesn’t really give us that option. Top 6 is set:
Lupul-Unicorn-Kessel
MGK
But they’ll suffer injuries this year (we got lucky last year). So we have to have guys who can step in. Thinking we should run the bottom 6 like this:
Hanson / Crabb / Brent / Brown? / UFA Torres – Bozak – Armstrong
This can be your Dzone faceoffs checking line
Crabb / Brown / Hanson – Kadri – Boyce
Your Hobo Killer line, can pitch in scoring against the other teams weaker lines.
We’ve been over this a hundred times. Most people here want Orr to be scratched, but barring a sea change in the way that Wilson and Burke think, he’ll be playing on the 4th line. That’s a reality we need to deal with.
And I think playing Kadri on a low minutes line with guys who have litttle offensive upside is a waste of his talents. Either give him some decent teammates to play with or put him back in the AHL and see if he can tear it up down there.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I have no idea why we would be bringing back a spare part like Crabb. If we suffer injuries, bring up one of our younger guys like Frattin/Caputi/Mueller/D’Amigo and see what they can do.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m really hoping Frattin and D’amigo have good camps and get themselves a good spot on the marlies (d’amigo-colborne-frattin?) because I want to see all three of those guys up at some point or another- if they earn it at least.
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You are (sadly) likely correct about Orr. But lets say for a second that we do use Orr only on occasion.
I didn’t say we should bring Crabb back, I just listed him as one of the guys going for a spot. Kadri actually was centring Boyce and Crabb this year and it wasn’t a terrible line. It’s not wasting Kadri’s talent because:
A) There are going to be injuries to the top 6 this year so I am sure Kadri moves up the lineup.
B) Eventually guys lie Frattin or Mueller will probably get a look and that would be a perfect slot for them. Also, if you brought in a Wolski or Bernier there would be a place for them.
C) You are now running three scoring lines, and lord knows we’ll need goals.
The one mistake is I gave Boyce a slot, when he should be competing or one. But yeah, ultimately this wont be the case because Colton Orr will be in the lineup.
Orr will get KO'd again
and then we’ll be rid of him for good.
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s one thing to wish for a player to be off your roster. It’s another thing to wish for a player to be on your IR list.
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I don't wish for that
It’s too risky to carry on fighting with a concussion history. He wasn’t very effective last year. How effective will he be tryiing to dodge blows to his head especially with his open fighting style.
He’s going to get ko’d. How will that make you feel seeing him get carried out on a stretcher? Time for him to retire.
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 12, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Like it or not, 7 of our 8 winger slots are already taken for next year.
I cannot disagree enough with this.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 12, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much. How is adding talent bad?
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It’s not.
Not saying this is necessarily “talent” but I’d be willing to sign Bernier to a 1 or 2 year deal that’s less than Reimer’s figures. I don’t expect a Macarthur-esque breakout from him, but it wouldn’t hurt to give him a shot, he was a very promising prospect under Wilson in SJ.
Also, I have a good feeling Bozak will step his game up from last year- lots of players go through sophomore slumps but hopefully that helps him mature as a player. If he earns it out of camp, I would give him another shot on the Kessel-Lupul line (assuming MGK is together and Kessel/Lupul are missing a center) and if Kadri earns the 3rd line C spot, Bernier can fit on his wing.
Another interesting thought, is if that situations plays out with MGK and Lupul-Bozak-Kessel and Kadri earns a spot on wing, what about trading for Jarret Stoll? His cap hit is 3.6 million, but this is his last year under contract and he would fit right in at 3rd line C and it would give LA a chance to take a run at Richards if they felt like it. Obviously this probably won’t happen but if LA really wanted Richards, they’d have to open room down the middle and Stoll is probably their expendable piece.
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If Richards goes to LA, Stoll may very well be on the way out.
Not exactly a unicorn, but if the trade price is fair…. meh. I’d be very meh with it. Meh.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 12, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be a stopgap. Unless we also do something (bring in a prospect with #1C potential) long term, it wouldn’t be enough for my liking.
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MEH
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 12, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree it’s not a lot but if we pulled that off + maybe a move up the draft board and Burke is able to pluck a top center prospect or some other high end forward prospects I wouldn’t be upset.
Also, if we’re taking Stoll as a salary dump, you’d have to think they’d send up something in return as well, maybe a 1st next year since they’ll likely be a very good team? Don’t know what we’d send back, it would have to be something like a low cost winger or a prospect. But I don’t see how the deal would negatively affect us other than if we send a good piece back to them.
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you’re saying is Stoll and Brayden Schenn for Phili’s first and a sixth. (/s)
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and komisarek, doughty is the perfect partner for him!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No. What I’m saying is Stoll and Schenn for Komi straight up.
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and a conditional 3rd based on how awesome our parade is next year
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t think 7/8 slots are already locked up, who of the 7 players I named do you realistically think either:
a) Burke will send to the Marlies
or
b) Wilson will make a healthy scratch for most of the year?
Also, Wolski in particular is going to have other suitors besides us; he’s not going to go to a team unless it says to him “Here’s where you fit in our plans for next year.” If we can find a guy in August who still doesn’t have a contract and is willing to sign a cheap ($1 million-ish) contract and play in the minors or be a healthy scratch until injuries hit, then fine, sign them. But the truth is that right now we don’t have room in our lineup for wingers and most UFAs aren’t going to want to come here and sit in the pressbox for half the year.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
But the truth is that right now we don’t have room in our lineup for wingers and most UFAs aren’t going to want to come here and sit in the pressbox for half the year.
“locked up” – Kessel, Kulemin, Grabbo, MacArthur. They all deserve ice time and will produce when they have it.
I think every other roster spot should be earned (yes, including Lupul and Armstrong) and if they aren’t doing shit with their ice time, i’d like to have some one who isn’t a rookie taking his spot.
We lack depth. Big time.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 12, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not asking who you think should earn their ice time, I’m asking who you think Wilson will scratch or shift down in the lineup. If you think the Leafs will ice a 4th line that features $7 million in wingers and doesn’t have Colton Orr on it, then you have a far different opinion of Ron Wilson and Brian Burke than I do.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I don’t think we really lack for depth at wing. If Kadri improves his play from last year, we have lots of scoring ability on the wing. Where we lack depth is at the other positions – centre, defence, and goalie.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the photo posted with this, but it needs a caption. I'm thinking like
In a special exercise before game 5, Luongo relearns which direction “up” is, after having grown confused on the point over the last two games..
They don't play until tomorrow anyway
Unless you are referring to the Miami Heat, in which case I agree…and that force of evil will be defeated if they don’t win tonight ;)
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by Marc Pilgrim on Jun 12, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I want the Heat to lose more than the Canucks. I hope they never win a championship with the current line up. Kinda wanna see Cuban go retarded too if they win.
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jun 12, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus Dirk is a monster and Jason Kidd deserves is
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the Nucks’ colours are also partially blue and white :/
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1) Fuck em
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by happiergilmore on Jun 12, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
so are the yankees
fuck the yankees
fuck the canucks
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
fuck the yankees always deserves a rec.
by YakovMironov on Jun 12, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Vancouver doesn’t count. Fuck those diving scuzzbuckets.
by Marc Pilgrim on Jun 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
With the Stanley Cup this year, though, it's a given that they will
It’s really only down to which particular flavour of evil you prefer.
indeed, and in truthyness, I have no real problem with leaf fans cheering for vancouver, as long as they have a decent reason and not some bullshit cop out like “because they are canadian and i want the cup to come home!”
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I even have some (SOME) sympathy for the “because they are Canadian” bit. On the non-fan civilian level I have a general pro-Canada bias and would rather see a bunch of Canadians happy than a bunch of Americans. Nothing against America, and I don’t feel THAT strongly about this (it’s not like I’m against Americans being happy, I did marry one), but if I’m casting around for any old reason to prefer one side or the other wins, this doesn’t strike me as an invalid argument.
In fully truthossity, this is one of the factors on my own personal scales in weighing this one up. It’s joined there by much bigger rocks like “dear god we’d never hear the end of the kessel thing” and a very marginally better draft pick for the leafs, and Vancouver’s diving and the obnoxiousness this is going to give to their fans (best case scenario: It puts a dent in their inferiority complex and they actually chill out a little in the long run), and the obscene amount of sports trophiness that Boston is seeing this decade. It’s all in there.
Just to Burtch myself here
I’d add that I dislike people using “because they are Canadian” as some kind of guilt-stick on others. We all have our reasons, and if you follow the sport at all closely it’s very unlikely that this is even close to your biggest reason. I just don’t think it is a priori WRONG of itself.
Both fans are obnoxious and will be obnoxious (since they both made the SCF). However, the SCF is the farthest Nucks fans have gotten; I’d rather not give them yet another reason to celebrate
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They’ve even been up 3-2 before. Then the Rangers came back and ended their long drought…and kept Vancouver’s going. I’m still hoping that Boston can do the same ;)
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Incorrect
Rangers were up 3-1 and the Canucks came back to tie it and then lose in 7
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Living in Australia, I don’t know any Boston fans. I do know Vancouver fans, they’re obnoxious already, and if the canucks win I will not hear the end of it.
I know who I’m going for.
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Whatever flies for your personal situation :)
I’m moving to the UK soon so I won’t have to put up with any of it :)
Good for you (great place is britain), but even moving wouldn’t help me – one of the aforementioned fans is my brother, and he’s the worst of the lot…
"No-one can stand up to you if they've got two broken legs."
Shake of the head. My brother.
Bad-mouthing me already, why am I not surprised.
See, I might have given a bit but you started harassing me during the ’Hawks series. So you deserve everything you get.
Can I say for the record every Canadian expat I have met – most Leafs fans but a couple Oilers, and some Flames – are cheering for the Canucks.
For Leafs/other fans, I don’t think you have to cheer for the Canucks, but cheering against them, particularly when the B’s are such a rival, is just sad. Hell I was hoping that the Leafs made it to the postseason. fans like this make me reconsider.
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I can see that. It’s easier for you to jump on the bandwagon for another Canadian team if you don’t have to live with their fans. Plus there’s something about being away from your home country which makes you nostalgic for all things that belong to it. If you live in TO then you’re surrounded by all things Canadiana 24/7, so there’s nothing that special about it. If you live elsewhere all of a sudden you start clinging to the common cause a bit harder.
I watched the NBC feed for the last game and it was amazingly unbiased, we even switched back to CBC once or twice and the Vancouver fap wagon was nauseating in comparison
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that last line as it implies most of us give a hoot about other fan bases cheering for our team come the time.
Lots of Leaf fans hate the Canucks, Lots of Leaf fans hate the Bruins, Most hate one more than the other and don’t give a flying fuck what Oilers/Flames or even Miami Heat fans care about when it comes to who they are cheering for.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
For Leafs/other fans, I don’t think you have to cheer for the Canucks, but cheering against them, particularly when the B’s are such a rival, is just sad.
I cheer against diving. There’s nothing sad about that; it has no place in hockey.
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To this day the Devils are my #1 most hated team for inventing and promulgating the trap. Crimes against hockey are a totally legit reason to hate teams.
Wait a second
You hate a team based on the way they play the sport not on whether they play in one of two nations in the league? (so much in common there…)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. The trap – annoying as it is – is a legitimate tactic. There isn’t a rule against it, it’s a coaching style.
Diving is breaking the rules for the purposes of lying to the ref, and suckering him in to get you an advantage.
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Yeah but it makes the game more boring. I accept it as legal and still don’t like it. I would not be happy if my team brought it in.
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I’m just saying, it doesn’t quite compare.
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I see the difference for sure. Just saying I also understand why it bothers wan ihite.
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Right
I don’t hate it because it’s illegal, I hate it because it ruined hockey for quite a while. Ruining hockey is a hating offence in the Book of Ihite.
Fair enough. I see nothing wrong with milking a legit penalty, but Lapierre’s action last game was a bit of a joke. Canucks aren’t the only divers.
Hope you cheered against the sharks after Thornton’s ankles got hacked off though :P
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Lapierre’s stab wound, Henrik getting “shoved” (at least three times this playoff I can think of), Luongo faking the high stick.
Others do it. The Canucks have institutionalized it.
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and then top it off with Burrows being an all around terrible human being and Torres being a danger to others safety and shazam! instant easy hate
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I really odn’t think Chara is a dirty player. That was a dirty hit on Pacioretty. But thats one hit. For the rest of his career (pretty long) he has established himself as a player who plays hard but not dirty.
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Sweet.
Anyway, I’m out, I did enjoy the banter. Be assured I’m not going to be trolling, but imagine for yourself the crap lambchops will get should the Canucks take one of the next 2 games. Thanks!
And just to re-iterate, he did start it during the Hawks series. So he deserves the lot!
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That’s why I didn’t mention Torres and Burrows. The Bruins have their share of dirty players (though I’d argue biting and hair pulling takes an extra degree of being-a-bitch), but they tend to stay on their own two feet. Dirty hits and cheap shots are between players, and rarely result in goals. Diving penalties and power plays are different.
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by Bower Power on Jun 12, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The more time I spend on twitter the more I hate the Canucks, Canucks fans, the media, and all the other crap
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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you should read the “is it wrong for a leaf fan to feel guilty for cheering for the canucks” thread
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hfboards?
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Can Vancouver make it any harder...
for Canadians to cheer for them?
“It’s not hard if you are playing in the paint. It’s an easy save for me. But if you’re wondering out and aggressive like he does that’s going to happen.”
- Luongo
That and the whole, the rest of Canada isn’t cheering for us (crying) and don’t jump on our bandwagon crap is enough to drive me insane. Honestly Lalongo, if you hold the record for most goals allowed in a Stanley Cup Final game (post-challenge cup), you shouldn’t be so smug.
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Oh come on, you are cherry picking the damn quote.
First of all, its 100% true that Thomas style leads to those kinds of goals.
Second of all, Luongo goes on to say “he’ll make some saves I won’t make” right after that.
There are lots of reasons to hate the Canucks but lets not be full of it.
the two games in boston there were about 12 goals thomas would have saved
cherry picking or not, that’s a smug ass quote, you don’t say something like that without intent to inflate a situation, even if you follow it up with a half assed retraction
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No it's not
it’s just a statement about playing styles. This is the kind of observation that every goalie tactics ever has made: “If you do X then it makes Y types of shots easy to save, but makes Z type more difficult.” If you challenge the shooter you make it hard for them to score by beaming it, but easier for them to score by deking it in. This isn’t exactly barn burning material here.
it is in no way a statement about playing styles, it’s a dig
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
First, going from the left corner to right post to follow up a shallow rebound isn’t an “easy” save for Luongo. If I could design a “what’s the hardest two-shot save series you could think of?” that would be it. Second, Luongo doesn’t exactly get to trash talk when he’s letting in glove-low shots from 40+ feet out. Third, it’s not his place to say “I could’ve saved that.” I don’t care if he follows it up with “and sometimes, he makes saves I couldn’t” – you just don’t get to do that.
Luongo also said “I have been pumping his [Thomas’] tires ever since the series started.” Luongo then added: “I haven’t heard any one nice thing he’s had to say about me.” There’s nothing cherry picked about that comment.
It’s a bitch move. Honestly, I’ve spent a lot of time defending Luongo on the internet up until these playoffs – I hate seeing anyone make a goalie a scapegoat when he posts better then league average, and Canucks fans seem to love heaping blame on him. But some of his comments (and actions, what with the diving, especially in the Nashville series), make it really, really hard not to hate him.
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Oh come on, you are cherry picking the damn quote.
I was waiting near the opposition’s blue line while listening to Luongo’s post-game presser?
He is taking a shot at Thomas, it’s easy to see especially if you actually watch/listen to it. I wouldn’t call saying “wow that’s a smug remark” being full of it.
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Honestly I don't blame Luongo
He probably should have given a bland response, but with all the shit that has been flung at him this playoffs I think he just wanted to pump himself up a bit
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by PKSube on Jun 12, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…with all the shit that has been flung at him this playoffs…
Most of which has gone right by him, at least in Boston.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jun 12, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'in
"WHAM WHAM...KABAM...KABAM... A DOUBLE KABAM! AND IT'S A DOUBLE DION!" - Vintage Pierre McGuire
Luongo spent his whole life working to be 6’4". It’s his work ethic that gives him the height to take away the corners while being deep. If only Thomas was as dedicated to growing.
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by Bower Power on Jun 12, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he should have drank more milk as a child
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Be fair, Thomas is extremely dedicated to growing. Albeit not upwards, but outwards.
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by Shield on Jun 12, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But we’re Canadian, we hate freedom! Wanting Boston to lose means we’re for the ter’rists.
What, it’s not 2006 anymore? I have a confused.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 12, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get happys from Basketball; would be happier if g/f’s brother wasn’t watching that game so I could watch Game of Thrones which I PVRd.
by Shield on Jun 12, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a real life “Game of Thrones” and Lebron is about to be knocked off of his.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 12, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mavs Win
Lebron seeks trade to Dallas.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 12, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummm
Speaking of rumors, heard #Leafs of a tentative deal in place possibly for Dubinsky who is #NYR RFA. Cost? 1st rd pick, player & prospect
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Yet another internet rumor, but as someone who hasn’t watched much in the way of Rangers games, what do people think of Dubinsky? Behindthenet numbers look good (high qualcomp, low qualteam, good pts/60), though his GAon-off/60 difference is pretty stark.
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unless that player is Lebda and the prospect is Barron smith
fuck.that.shit.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you sir
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I’m not talking about that listed price whatsoever. To hell with the HFBoards trade proposal. I just have no idea what Dubinsky is like, or if anyone could see him playing between Lupul and Kessel.
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he is essentially a less injury prone and younger tim conolly
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno about tthat comparison. I more offensive Matt Stajan is what I see
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either way, no accurate comparable would be worth a late 1st, good prospect and decent roster player
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
FOR HIS RIGHTS
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exactly
I wonder what Burke could get for Mac’s rights
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair it is RFA rights. But yes that is too much. I think he is probably worth a late first alone. Or a late second and decent (nothing special) prospect.
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Versteeg got us a first and a third. I’d argue Dubinsky is worth more than Versteeg. Philly’s 1st plus a prospect (one of our goalies, perhaps) seems fair to me.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If we took Dubinsky, we’d be conceding Brad Richards to the Rangers. I have to think we’d get a discount for that. Also, if that really does go down, Burke is a genius for walking the tampering-line on how much he “wanted” Richards.
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only 54 points… meh
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by Future_considerations on Jun 12, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A 25 year old who has improved his point total every year he’s been in the league who can score goals and plays a physical style of hockey. Depending on the price, I would totally be down for that. It would save us from getting locked into a Brad Richards boat anchor, and who knows where Dubinsky’s points totals might go playing on a team that’s got more firepower than the Rangers. It would give us a top 6 where we could potentially have all 6 guys score 25 goals, and all of them are under 30. I would be on board for that, as long as the cost wasn’t exorbitant.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s not even a Center. He’s never taken 1000 faceoffs in a season. The Rangers have been grooming him as a LW.
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He was second on the Rangers in faceoffs taken this year and 3rd last year, winning over 50% of his draws both times. Sounds like a centre to me.
by Draglikepull on Jun 12, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is this guy..?
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by happiergilmore on Jun 13, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
When it comes to draft talk, there is this one kid that intrigues me
His name is Dmitri Jaskin:
http://bruins2011draftwatch.blogspot.com/2011/03/dmitri-jaskin-back-on-attack.html
Jaskin is a complete package; skating is a certain drawback, as he lacks smooth stride and looks awkward at times but has deceptive speed, is strong on his skates and is able to get where he needs to be. He is strong on the puck, tough to separate off the puck down low. Goes through checks and tough to handle physically, shields the puck well. Excellent puck puck control in tight space and very good hands in close to the net. Very creative with the puck, anticipates well, has vision and soft hands, passes are crisp. Drives the net, very instinctive player around the net with scoring touch, looks for tips and rebounds close to the net. Quick release of his wrist shot. Finishes all checks causing (defenders) to throw the puck away, creating turnovers plus absorbs checks well, tough to knock him down.Very solid defensively, responsible in own zone and make good decision with puck in own zone showing poise and hockey sense, smart and poised with puck around own blue line, does even the small things well. Has enthusiasm for the game, always plays hard, strong competitor, plays with heart and character.
Would you guys be up for picking this guy if he were available in the 2nd round? I hear from people that have watched this kid play call him a monster. One major issue was that he was injured early this season.
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Yeah, it’s like saying you should get a guy on your NBA team who has intelligence, tenacity, excellent dribbling skills, can nail 3’s, the only drawback is it’s 4ft 7.
That writeup has AHL all star written all over it.
why? it doesn’t say he has terrible skating and zero mobility, it says he has a weird stride that looks awkward, but is fast and strong on his skates
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 12, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaskin’s skating is his flaw, but it states that he’s strong on his skates.
Since I thought Jaskin was a high risk/high reward type of pick, I thought he might be worth it in the 2nd round or later. It’s not like all bad skaters can’t play in the NHL (eg. Lupul), though it does limit their effectiveness.
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the mash?
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