Tomas Kaberle Wins The Stanley Cup
AAAAAAAAAND EXHALE. The seeming juggernaut of the Vancouver Canucks, who steamrolled their way to a President's Trophy before overcoming every challenge in the playoffs, was crushed under the righteous fury of the Boston Bruins. The Beantowners rallied after the vicious and filthy hit perpetrated on Nathan Horton to outscore the Canucks 21-4 on their way to winning four of the last five games and ending their 39 year old Stanley Cup drought. Over seven games the mentally strong Tim Thomas was miles better than Roberto "the choker" Luongo, the Bruins' shooters took better shots, and the team in gold and yellow wanted the Cup more. Or at least, that's what you might read. If someone were to dig deeper, I think you'd see among other things that Vancouver's shooting percentages (especially on the powerplay) came back to earth while the Bruins' picked the right time to take off. It will definitely be an interesting series to try to delve into the underlying stats although seven games is a pretty small sample.
Anyway, the great thing is that picture right there. Tomas Kaberle, after many years of loyal service to the Toronto Maple Leafs, manfully accepted a trade to Boston for the good of the Maple Leafs. The end result: the team picked up a number of useful assets and Kaberle finally won the ultimate prize. It is definitely bittersweet to see Kabby win it with another club but this is exactly what those of us that wanted him moved hoped for and thank god it happened because good lord could you imagine dealing with Canucks fans if they had won? They almost burned their city down when they lost! More on that after the jump but for now, more Kabby:
One of his former teammates was also really happy for the guy:
Good luck to kaba tonight! Hoping he gets that cup. #ItsAVestNotAWestKabb
As if that wasn't enough, some clown tried to rebut the thought by saying it didn't look like Kaberle wanted it (ludicrous):
Hes not? Hes leading their d men in points and is a plus 8 in the playoffs with only 16 mins a game! Hes playing great!
So tonight was a night to celebrate for Canada, Boston, and Kaberle fans. As for Canucks fans...well, things didn't go too well for them last night.
As a preamble to this part, I want to point out that I do know some great Canucks fans. They are the ones I follow and interact with on Twitter, Sean and Yankee Canuck and some of their crew over at Nucks Misconduct, and a good friend from university. So when I rag on Canucks fans, I hope they know I don't mean them but good lord are there a lot of their brethren that makes it so easy to hate their fanbase. From the yahoos that taunted Theo Fleury over his painful history of sexual abuse to the extensive and continual defence of Todd Bertuzzi to the ridiculous sense of entitlement they developed this year to the constant defence of their team's shameful antics to a recreation of June 14, 1994 there's no shortage of sticks with which to bludgeon Canucks fans. Which isn't to say that there aren't a lot of good Canucks fans or that they don't represent the vast majority but just as in every fanbase the loudest and dumbest dominate the narrative. Is that fair? No, but neither's life. This is the way sports works.
Which brings me to last night. So unless you went to bed before the game ended then you've probably seen some of these pictures already:

Fact: No Canucks fans are present in this picture

Look at these professional rioters

Definitely no Bruins fans here

Pay no attention to the clothes worn here
Thanks to the excellent work of CTV and Rob Brown, who was trending worldwide on Twitter last night, it was pretty clear that the participants in the destruction and looting numbered much more than the 'small amount' of troublemakers that Vancouver's surprisingly handsome mayor Gregor Robertson suggested were behind the problems. The other truly mind-numbing suggestions were that these were not Canucks fans and that the police should start shooting people. Those two are brought to you by MENSA candidates Bruce Dowbiggin and Eric Francis respectively. And who could forget Dave Stubbs with the double helping of stupid by suggesting this was only the work of 'professional rioters' and that the 93 Montreal riots couldn't possibly have had any fan involvement because they started five miles from the arena. Didn't know the Habs only had 19,000 fans. On a personal note, as a soccer fan, it's great to watch a lot of the hockey media twist themselves into pretzels to deny any connection between the riots and the hockey game when they would be the first to label any trouble near a soccer field an outbreak of hooliganism.
Robertson and the cops were getting hammered over the outcome but to be honest, I'm not sure what could have been done better in order to balance keeping the peace and protecting first responders. Firefighters and EMTs were not able to get into the area because the crowd quickly got out of control. Fan viewings had been extremely successful in the city (and at the Olympics and worldwide during World Cups and Euros and on and on) and no indication had been given that losses during these were causing any issues. And to be frank, with the reported 100,000 that were downtown I am not sure what the cops could have done to get the necessary numbers. The plan worked in February 2010 because the Canadian Hockey Team did their part by winning.
And again, while it was a big contingent in terms of numbers, it was a small percentage of Canucks fans that were causing the damage and looting. There were a lot of fans trying to stop the looting and hopefully those that were snapping pictures and video will help the police identify as many perpetrators as possible and there's even a group of fans reportedly planning to go downtown tomorrow to clean up. Of course, there were a tonne of dummies running around and just joking around but as some guys said on TV, there was nowhere to go and a lot of confusion. There were a lot of fights and some reports of some deaths and some suspected homicides (totally unconfirmed at the time of writing) on what was all in all a surreal situation to see unfold on television and social media simultaneously.
Personally, I think that Toronto would burn if the Leafs made the final and the point was certainly made that any other Canadian city would have done it too. No mention of course was made of Calgary in 2004, Edmonton in 2006, Ottawa in 2007 and their lack of comparable riots. Then Leafer1984 found this picture of Little Italy in the aftermath of their win in 2006:
Can't see any fights. And there's no situation that cannot be linked back to the Simpsons:
Tonight, the city weeps, as for the first time ever, a hockey arena becomes the scene for violence.
But enough about that. Let's get to the heart of the Frowny Face Ledger: SAD FACES!

This lady is playing peekaboo with the Sedins

A sad ginger means you are safe

Dear Hockey Gods, THANKS FOR LISTENING!

Dammit, now I have to buy a Bruins jersey

Looks like the "IF FOUND IN THIS POSITION PLEASE APPLY HEIMLICH" label was removed from this model

A Burrows jersey and a chicken head? That's so perfect that I almost can't believe that's not a Bruins fan.
That's it from me. Let's hear your thoughts on Kaberle, the riots, and your favourite sad Canucks pictures!
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Although really? Same title as this mornings FTB?
by WizardofNaz on Jun 16, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Mine was written first
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I don’t need to say which picture is my favourite =oD
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I’m gonna have a big smile plastered on my face all day. So, so happy the Canucks lost, and Kabby won.
by leaflover4ever on Jun 16, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
Hey what do you know, the only one of the Muskoka Five who actually left and helped the team while doing so wins a cup.
The 4 other members of the Muskoka Five were sitting there last watching Kaberle hoist the cup thinking “Fuck I should have waived”
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jun 16, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Sundin: Didn’t waive when he might have landed the most value in a trade; left as a UFA for nothing.
Result: Spent an undistinguished half-season in Vancouver, made it to Round 2 (no farther than he’d ever made it in his career).
Tucker: Was bought out by the team after he wouldn’t waive.
Result: Spent two years in Colorado as a shadow of his former truculent self.
McCabe: Was pressured into waiving but ended up being traded for peanuts (Mike Van Ryn who ran into injury trouble again and again).
Result: Became captain of the Florida Panthers (how forgettable) and then got traded to the Rangers this season, only to be first round fodder for the Caps.
Kubina: Finally waived but ended up getting traded for spare parts and Garnet Exelby.
Result: Didn’t want to stay with the Atlanta Thrasher-jets so went back to Tampa Bay. Made Round 3 this year.
Kaberle: Chose to waive to go to Boston for an excellent return.
Result: Won the Stanley Cup.
So…who did best ;)
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by LeafBoy on Jun 16, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Kessley Snipes should make a video of this like it’s the end of a heist movie or something.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
If you’re going to talk out of your ass, atleast get it right.
Sundin played in the Conference finals twice with the Leafs, both in 1999-2000 & 2001-2002 season.
#DonttalkshitaboutSundin.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It was 1998-99. If you’re going to correct someone…
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 16, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ah balls
what’s worse was I was at that game 5, so I should’ve gotten the year right.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Sundin in Vancouver was nowhere close to Sundin in Toronto. The only bad thing for us about Sundin was the no return that I mentioned above.
Those who didn’t waive, didn’t win.
Kaberle waived and won the Cup ;)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
sundin was a a point per game in vancouvers playoffs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaberle did refuse to waive once when we could’ve traded him to Philly (oh yeah, forgot about that) and while Burke never said it publicly it’s likely he was pressured behind closed doors to waive.
The fact that McCabe and Kubina also waived but were ultimately traded for peanuts was not their fault but the fault of the GM who pulled the trigger: Fletcher and Burke.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jun 16, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The real criminal here is JFJ. Let’s not forget that.
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by sportsfan2 on Jun 16, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Never forget.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
over time I’ve become less angry at JFJ. it wasn’t his fault, he was in over his head. it’s like giving a 6-year old keys to your car then being pissed at them when they crash it.
Congratulations Tomas!
Nice analogy
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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McCabe and Kubina were traded for peanuts because they had little trade value and had bad contracts. They were both essentially salary dumps.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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McCabe’s contract was bad, but he was still a very useful player.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He was run out of town.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically the narrative of the Muskoka 5 is a lot more nuanced than simply “all the jerks who didn’t waive never amounted to anything but because kabby did he won a cup”
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jun 16, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That they got peanuts was also because of when those two finally waived their NTC.
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They were also both salary dumps, which tends not to net you the best return.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If Van Ryan hadn’t been cheap shotted into retirement the leafs would have walked away from the McCabe deal like bandits
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he formally retire yet?
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, sadly.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, last year. I believe he’s coaching, in the OHL?
by Nigel Cadbury on Jun 16, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I heard about the OHL gig, wasn’t sure if he hung ’em up officially.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so.
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I was in Calgary after 2004 and it was a pretty nice party. Everyone was sad, but decided, what the heck, let’s just keep partying on the red mile. And they had cause to be angry, seeing as how they were ACTUALLY robbed of the Cup by a bad call, Gelinas having scored the winner in game six.
There were some riots in Edmonton after they won the conference finals in 06, but not much. Shops had boarded up windows.
Ottawa would never riot but that’s more a reflection on their lack of passion and lameness, than sanity. Not saying rioting is good, but probably the feeling of wanting to riot and then being smart about it is what most reasonable people would feel after a big loss.
I think there would probably be riots in Toronto, more because of the size of the city. Someone is bound to start something. And that someone might be a Leaf fan, but whatever. Hopefully the Leafs win the Cup soon and we can all be really really really friggin’ happy together.
I’m happy for Kabby, but not as happy as I will be when the Leafs win.
by Leaf in Habland on Jun 16, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
Also wonder if riots beget more riots. You hear stories of people saying before the game that they’re hoping for a riot. Most of the rioters looked to be in their 20s, wonder if they thought “We missed 1994, now it gets to be our chance to riot”.
by TrevorWilliam on Jun 16, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome
Great to see so much love when the Leafs win! Kaberle, Rask, Seguin, man it is great to see the blue and white take the Cup!
What? Toronto didn’t make the playoffs? Boston won, with help from the Leafs?!? So why are Leaf fans cheering so hard to see the Leafs lose???
Seguin never played for the Leafs but good try.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by dsciswe on Jun 16, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply flagged as troll Story-flag Unflag?
In other news, its really amusing to go through all the recent comments a troll makes on other blogs to get a look into their miserable lives.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
You’re adorable.
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I dunno guys, I kind of like him.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Contrarian.
Maybe he’s just running into a bunch of bad comment-luck. What’s his PDO?
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His Trolli REL is through the roof.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he makes me feel smart
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re just mad you wasted all those dollar bills on “Cup Champions 2011 Vancouver Canucks” swag arn’t you?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So? You’d prefer Vancouver won?
Seguin did almost nothing, Knight did squat, Rask did nothing, and we like Kaberle who brought us a lot of possible goodies so good for him.
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The fact that the Sens arena is in Kanata (middle of nowhere) also played a role. I bet fans wanted to riot but by the time they walked back to the city they were all too tired to bother
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jun 16, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel mostly numb about this whole thing
I hate vancouver. I hate Boston. Love Kabby though. But mostly sad the Leafs haven’t won one yet for a long time. When will be our turn? Soon I hope.
Speaking of Stanley Cup celebrations. Imagine the pandemonium, delirium, and hysteria the city of Toronto will experience when we win the Cup. It will rival that of a World Cup celebration. Who wouldn’t want to experience that as a player and a fan.
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 16, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
Think about it this way, too: the Leafs still have a chance to be the first team to bring the Cup back to Canada.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Jun 16, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
since ’93 obv.
Scoring by committee FTMFW!
by Peter de Chatham on Jun 16, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
A decent chance too, as it seems every other Canadian team except Vancouver is in rebuild mode now.
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Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
are we still in rebuild mode?
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Probably the farthest along. Edmonton’s on their way up sooner or later but not right away. Ottawa’s just starting theirs, but they have the wrong guy in charge. Calgary and Montreal should be rebuilding but are in denial…
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
hmm. Edmonton vs. Toronto finals would be pretty awesome
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Oh shit, that would be auto-divorce for me, and I’d be deported from the province!
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jun 17, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
CGY better start working on their Muskoka 12 before they start “rebuilding”
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
They have to be doing well enough to be the Fernie 12 or the Golden 12. Though I guess you can’t really ski hard when you’re a pro athlete.
by Its Cold In Here on Jun 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Invermere 12.
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by Sergei Puckizin on Jun 17, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure their city is in rebuild mode.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jun 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Ha rec
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cup comes to Canada every summer. I don’t really buy the whole “Canada” drought thing. Yeah, no team that is located within Canada has won the Cup in since ’93, but there are Stanley Cup parades every summer in Canadian towns/cities. I was there when Arnott held his parade at my cottage in Wasaga Beach after the Devils won a few years back, 2003 I believe.
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by CoolJ90 on Jun 16, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And since the Bruins won, there will be more of those parades in Canada than there would have been if the Canucks had won. Hmmm… ;)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
they have the same number of Canadians on their roster, but the Nucks have more non-Canadians, so..
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The Cup may be paraded through Vancouver after all…by Milan Lucic.
“Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…” ;)
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Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
by LeafBoy on Jun 16, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Higher % of Canadians, and more Canadians contributing greatly to their success. Vancouver has guys like Bolduc, Hodgson, Rypien and Tambellini who didn’t play much throughout the playoffs, whereas Savard is the only guy on the Bruins who didn’t play/contribute much, and that was because of injury.
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I get the whole canadian content argument
…but really? c’mon. That’s a nice bit of mental gymnastics to make yourself feel better but you’re not fooling Leaf nation.
I don’t feel estatic Boston won because Tyler Seguin is from Mississauga. Fuck him.
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 16, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, so Vancouver had more roster spots than boston? how does that make sense? unless its the two for Raymond and Rome’s suspensions,well actually that would be one with the horton injury
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
last time I checked, the Bruins have 34 players on their roster according to nhl.com, and 23 of them were Canadian. The Nucks had 39, 23 of which were Canadian
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There’s no roster limit in the playoffs, so if your AHL team is out of the playoffs you can theoretically call up everyone with a NHL contract. Most teams only call up about 10 but apparently the canucks are special.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
They only did call up about 10. Maybe Boston called up fewer
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
I don’t know. They only brought up 5 guys from the Moose as “black aces”:
Lack, Tanev, Shirokov, Volpatti, Bolduc. Plus Baumgartner at the end.
Maybe they just listed a bunch in case they needed them
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
I voted a lot because it’s can technically be more than a tonne
GSHJDKSHJDFDJSF I’M SO HAPPY
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also
am I the only one that has kinda stopped hating Boston? They won a Cup already; what else can they do to us?
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It’ll come back once the Leafs start playing again ;)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
especially when Bruins fans
start chanting “we won the cup” following “thankyou kessel” next time the leafs play in Boston.
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 16, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If they still had Kessel, I’d have to think they’d have at least made the finals last year too…if not won it all…oh well. Let them think Kessel solved all their problems ;)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
might be slightly more tolerable than Nucks fans chanting “Leafs suck” following “we won the cup”
by Jack rides ducks on Jun 16, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
19-never! ;) (It’s still true!)
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Notice how that isn’t the Canucks, isn’t an NHL team and no longer exists.
It’s the same thing with the old Senators team. They won a bunch of Cups, but that doesn’t mean that this iteration of the Senators can claim those cups. The city of Vancouver has a cup to its name, but the nucks don’t.
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It would be like me starting up a team tomorrow called the Yankees and then laying claim to a couple dozen championships.
Sens fans actually, truly believe that their franchise won those Cups though.
The Habs count a cup that was not awarded because of Spanish Flu. I swear only Toronto counts them correctly.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Wel
At least Vancouver doesn’t try to claim a cup from the early 1900’s as their own like some other franchise…
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
If they want to claim that counts they better be ready to claim they hold the longest drought too.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really hate Boston. They may have reason to hate us if they still feel they got fleeced on the Kessel deal but really, trades are a stupid reason to hate another team. Its not the other teams fault if your GM makes a terrible trade. Hate the GM then. Hate other teams from regular season, post-season and canadian rivalry not because of trades.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
I don’t think they feel like they got fleeced on the Kessel deal… at all. I hate the fuck out of all Boston sports franchises but it’s entirely out of jealousy. I’ll freely admit that. I fucking hate the Bruins and will until I have a reason not to (ie. the Leafs knock them out of the playoffs or go deeper than them in the playoffs). Such is life.
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Almost no one outside of TO thinks Boston got fleeced with Kessel.
Maybe Kaberle, but the fact he brought them the Cup makes it at worst Win/Win
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas temporarily won my heart
but that all ends once the SCF is over.
FUCK EVERY TEAM EXCEPT TORONTO.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
pretty sure this blog should change its name to that
LTWW
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jun 16, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
rec,
Yeah fuck em.
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by Future_considerations on Jun 16, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaberle wins
LuBrongo loses
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by Chris Stoikoff on Jun 16, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
Just thinking/dreaming...
This win by another original 6 team proceeding last year’s win by another original six long cup drought for the Hawks after almost 50 years and this year by the B’s after over 40 years, has to make you think we are NEXT! ;)
I’m not saying next year (one can dream) but still, the past two cup winners were both original six teams with long outstanding droughts. I say we are due!
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It would be interesting to see this kind of role reversal… ;)
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great, now my hopes are up again
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Thinking of Reimer giving us fantastic and consistent goaltending is making more than my hopes rise up.
by Shield on Jun 16, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You didn't read the disclaimer
Past performance is no guarantee and not necessarily indicative of future results.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
A++++
Dammit, now I have to buy a Bruins jersey
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by SkinnyFish on Jun 16, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I somehow managed to drink 10 beers last night. Then I saw Kabby lift the Cup and had to have one more in celebration.
My snooze button has never been hit harder or more often than this morning.
Meh

So happy to see a smiling Kaberle holding the cup, and class act Tim Thomas deserved the Conn Smythe.
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Doesn’t bother me at all anymore.
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by theninjagreg on Jun 16, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 28 recs
Did you see that table in Boston’s dressing room?
How many bottles of champagne were there? 100? More?
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I really feel like if Kaberle was Canadian and didn’t play for the Leafs he would have been more of a feel good story.
The guy was a late draft pick that developed into the second highest scoring defensemen on an Original Six team. He comes close with some of the best Leaf’s team in decades. He is part of the “Muskoka Five” and is judged by fans and media for not waiving. Burke comes along and he has to deal with two straight years of trade talk and speculation, all the while maintaining that he wants to remain with the team and win there. He finally agrees to waive his NTC for the benefit of the club and for a chance at the Cup. He goes through the playoffs dealing with criticism for not fixing the entire Bruins powerplay.
Did CBC even interview him last night?
What a shame.
Also who isn’t rec’ing these photos?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
OLLIE THE GOALIE (coach) IS BACK
@reporterchris:
The #capitals have hired Olaf Kolzig as associate goalie coach.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
Dunno if this has been posted but here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyKmqAHSu34
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great video, until healy starts speaking
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by Future_considerations on Jun 16, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, boston trading Ray and him winning a cup with a new team was the best thing ever a gm could do, toronto trading Kaberle to a cup winner is apparently a spite worthy affair
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
/exploding healy gif
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by Future_considerations on Jun 16, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
worst fans of the ENTIRE NHL ? Really ?
Ok lemme first say that I have been busy doing my Military Obligation at Ft. Dix NJ for 2 weeks .. BUT….
I had to log on to say this !
Philadelphia is the worst fans of the ENTIRE NHL ~ REALLY ? HHhhhmmmmm
Last year game six Chicago Blackhawks win the SCF in Philly and there were a few boo’s and a few idiots who threw trash on the ice but 90% of the fans were Good Natured and clapped and took pictures and watched Kane, Toews, and Sharp all hoist the SC over their heads and skate around the ice like civilized fans. Their was no looting or roiting outside the stadium. No one flipped over cars or threw bricks threw store windows or burned anything.
AHEM… ahhhehehehehem…
EXCUSE ME..
What in the bejeepers did the Vancouver Canucks do?
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LOL @ Fort Dix
But good point in that the Philly fans who are supposed to be sub-human didn’t riot.
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Remember that time the Senators let future Stanley Cup winning Captain Zdeno Chara walk for nothing as a UFA because they chose Wade Demoted to the AHL Redden?
We should really talk about that more.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Filed under “And you thought JFJ was bad.”
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Filed under, wish Toronto MSM members would mention that when trolling.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He was.
Let’s just not every other jerk who made mistakes off the hook either though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but then we’d be reminded that instead of going after Chara, we threw 11 mil at McCabe and Kubina.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 16, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
/Hindsight’d
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s bogus.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is it bogus? Chara was up for grabs, we had the cap room to try to woo him, but went for McCabe and Kubina instead.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 16, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well:
I cannot remember if we offered him a contract and he turned us down
If he stated he had no interest in signing here
If he would have signed here
Why he didn’t sign with 28 others teams
Lots more variables than, we had him but let him walk for nothing.
We’re good.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus Chara would never have been up for grabs in the first place if not for Ottawa’s hilarious decision. I doubt anyone would have given us shit for not pursuing Wade Redden
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Chara was also a bit of a project at the time. His skating was pretty awkward, and he was even slower and more lumbering than today. He sharpened it up in Boston, but it easily couldve gone the other way.
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Right, this is all true, but come on, does anyone examine the nuances when they tweet shit about the Leafs?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because its in hindsight, doesn’t make it any less funny. Not to me. Especially not when the guy they essentially chose over Chara was Wade Redden.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a “project” who signed with Boston for around 9 mil, became their team captain and helped lead them to the cup. Meanwhile, we gave McCabe 6 mil for an outlier goal scoring season and gave Kubina 5 mil after a career high 38 point season. I don’t recall us making any attempt at all to acquire Chara, and I think that was a mistake. You can call it hindsight, I prefer historical perspective. I just don’t think it’s fair to suggest that Ottawa made a monumental blunder letting Chara get away, without acknowledging that we were in a position to take advantage of their short-sightedness, but didn’t.
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you on the “project” thing. Not sure how much of a project a first team all star selection/Norris Trophy nominee (as he was at that point) is. That said, I doubt there’s ever been a player who had no question marks whatsoever.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just realized that his first all star season was while he was still on the Senators. “Project” label is too extreme, but I laugh every time I see him skate in old footage. Huge difference between then and now.
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that is a silly way to look at it
Ottawa let Chara, one of the best defensemen of the era get away for nothing, that is a fact that cannot be disputed
the Leafs had a 1 in 29 chance at the very best of landing Chara, and there is no proof anywhere that he wanted to play here for all the tea in china. Just because the Leafs didn’t sign him doesn’t mean they didn’t throw him an offer or he didn’t turn them down
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m not sure I agree with this logic either, that means every-other team not named the Bruins have no right to make fun of the Sens for their blunder.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
More like 1 in 17 because a number of teams wouldn’t have been able to dish out a 7.5 million dollar contract.
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but they could have traded away cap space and made room!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking about the Predators, not Glen Sather.
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Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
if we are going to make fallacy based arguments about the leafs even having a chance to sign Chara, then we should at least be equally silly and pretend that every team had some way to sign him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
But then how could we argue semantics?
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Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
you can argue them both ways!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
First of all, a 1 in 29 chance would be the worst odds possible, not the best. In reality, the odds would have been better than that because a number of teams couldn’t or wouldn’t compete at those prices. Secondly, there is no proof that he wanted to play for Boston any more than us. Lastly, if we had made an offer that he turned down, don’t you think it would have been common knowledge in Leafs Nation?
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by GreatKingRat on Jun 16, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
no proof that he wanted to play for Boston any more than us
http://kirkscall.hockeyjournal.com/2011/06/how-the-2011-stanley-cup-champions-were-built/
Zdeno Chara, D- Before Chiarelli was fully on board, Gorton worked to sign Chara, the most coveted free agent of the summer. Although L.A. reportedly offered more money, Gorton convinced Chara of Boston’s vision and plan more effectively, and the huge Slovak instead signed with the Bruins. This was important, because the team had endured a reputation during the O’Connell years of being a less-desireable place for free agents- Jeremy Roenick took less money from Philly to sign with the Flyers over the Bruins. Chara’s decision sent the message to Boston fans that things were changing.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
1 in 29 gives the Leafs even odds
and with zero information, or insight, even odds is the best you can expect.
and secondly, exactly, there is NO proof, NONE that he wanted to sign ANYWHERE, that includes Boston, that includes the Leafs, that includes the Dallas Cowboys.
and why would it be common knowledge? are the Leafs brass high on leaking players not wanting to sign with them?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
was thinking the same but then remembered about McCabe taking forever to sign his contract, think it had to do with his wife being ill. People were roasting him in the media etc about taking his time to sign then it was reported it had to do with his wife.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jun 16, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs tried to get Chara and almost got him but he turned us down.
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Read a piece that claims LA offered him more money than the Bruins did, but the Bruins’ then-GM convinced him they had a great plan going forwards.
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Not quite sure what that plan was, but i’m pretty sure it was a giant failure in hindsight.
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Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Well, on the other side of it: that GM isn’t employed by the Bruins any more.
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It’s interesting to note that the Bruins made their big money veteran pick up of Chara when they weren’t even close to contending, while conventional wisdom says that you should do what the Blackhawks did with Hossa and make that kind of move when you feel like you’re on the verge of being a contender. Hopefully if we sign Richards he turns into our Chara in a few years, unlikely as that may seem.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Chara was 28-29 when the Bruins signed him, and defenders tend to peak later
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares?
We gave up Seguin, Rask, Couture, Steen, Coliacovo, Stempniak, Stajan, Hagman, Blake, and they’re all 1st ballot Hall of Famers. Hell, Seguin and Rask JUST won the Cup, both which clearly were the straw that stirred the drink.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jun 16, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just trying to ease the crushing pain caused by their loss.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
losers

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by theninjagreg on Jun 16, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Mark Recchi has won a Stanley Cup in 3 different decades and is the only Boston player who was alive during the last Bruins Cup win.
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I laughed when he said his fav players growing up were Trottier and Gilbert Perreault. While everyone else was said Yzerman, Gretzky, Lemieux. For chrissakes Khudobin said Nabokov haha.
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I laughed the most
When Rask said his favourite player was Essensa. Wonder if he was trying to suck up
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"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
he seems like a character, so maybe it was a joke. he was walking around in hortons helmet before the game
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He is super ugly too.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah same here. I was confused as hell though until it turned out Bob Essensa is the goalie coach (at least I’m assuming that’s his role). I figured it was some sorta in-joke
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It was like when the Pens won the cup, and one player said his favorite player growing up was Petr Sykora, who was playing for them
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jun 16, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I missed that. But that’s what I was thinking with Rask and Essensa yeah. Also, someone named Bertuzzi did they not? Can’t remember who, but had me scratchin’ my head a bit.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucic did. He is a BC boy
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Bruins
So much that I was pulling for the Flyers to beat them. Yes, really. Stupid Bruins.
This was a massive choke job. The Bruins are the worst team (7th overall) to win the Cup since the ’86 Habs (also 7th overall). But they earned it. They outworked the Canucks so badly they made a seven game series seem like a sweep.
The injury to Hamhuis hurt a lot. I expect Kesler and Henrik were also playing hurt – they had no jump at all. Higgins is a guy you can never depend on. Despite that, I expected a lot more from Burrows, Raymond, any uninjured Sedin, Salo and Edler. Maxim Lapierre was their most effective forward and that’s not a good thing.
They folded. Four times! And now I have to deal with the Boston Bruins as Stanley Cup champions. I’m pissed at you, Vancouver.
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I should add
In the theme of the post, that I believe the Bruins have a high percentage of really excellent fans. I don’t care; their team is still stupid.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a massive choke job
No it wasnt
The injury to Hamhuis hurt a lot. I expect Kesler and Henrik were also playing hurt
Right and after two 7 game series’ the Bruins were 100% healthy.
They folded
No they just got beat in a do or die game. No one was “clutch” or “choked”. It came down to a one game playoff and the Bruins won and they friggin deserved to win
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The injury to Hamhuis hurt a lot. I expect Kesler and Henrik were also playing hurt
You know what hurt a lot? The injury to Savard. Vancouver isn’t allowed to complain about injuries – Boston was missing their number one center. (Care of former Vancouver dirtbag Matt Cooke!)
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I’m not talking about “clutch”. I’m talking about a team with far superior talent rolling over and failing to compete. That’s choking.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not entirely sold Vancouver had “far superior talent.” Boston’s a fairly deep team as well.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely, Vancouver was definitely the favourite and going by regular season numbers was the superior team.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the “far” I don’t agree with. Matter of opinion though
by Self Destructive Zones on Jun 16, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
don't apologize for...
opinions that are based in fact. While the bruins never had a superstar forward (I believe tops on the team was 62 pts. this season), they have a very deep pool of forwards that can skate, score, and are physical. Vancouver pretty much had nobody past their top 3 (sedin sisters and kesler— who aren’t nearly physical enough to compete with a gritty eastern conference team).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jun 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Failing to compete, or getting shut down?
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Little bit of both. After their initial push last night they looked lackluster.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruins do what they do best – get up and then clog up the neutral zone. After they were up 2-0 they were pretty much playing a 1-4
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"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Right, but the Canucks knew that which is why it’s crazy to me that Bergeron was uncovered on the first goal.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Not surprising seeing it was Ehrhoff out there trying to ‘cover’ him.
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
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Bruins did a really good job tying up the Nucks sticks, and coming in on the backcheck.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jun 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And the canucks don’t play that exact same style?
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Failing to compete. Spending extended periods of time in their own zone while trailing on the scoreboard. Consistently losing battles for loose pucks and rebounds.
They were outscored 23-3 in the four games they lost. That’s not falling behind and then being shut down. That’s falling behind and then throwing in the towel as the other team runs up the score.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
you know when people throw in the towel? when they are being beaten down by a superior opponent
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, they throw in the towel when they give up. Sometimes this is because they are being beaten down by a superior opponent. That’s not what happened in this series.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re assigning a narrative based on nothing. It’s like when a little kid loses, then turns around and says “I wasn’t trying my hardest!” They outshot the Bruins in game seven! They got beat by Thomas and Thomas’ save percentage. Not because they “didn’t have enough heart” or “didn’t want it enough”.
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I’m not sure what you’re accusing me of doing. Making excuses for Vancouver? They should have been better and they weren’t. Not giving the Bruins enough credit? They worked hard every night, and Tim Thomas is exceptional.
What I saw was a team that stopped competing for loose pucks and rebounds, and as a result got massively outscored four times. A team with much more talent and prior success couldn’t even hold the score close four times. I don’t know what other “narrative” to give it. If you think that was the best Vancouver could have played, I don’t know how the hell they beat the Sharks.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
you also seem to ignore the fact that even if the Canucks rolled over for the Bruins, the Bruins had to fight tooth and nail through every other team in the east to get to the final, they had to come back from two games down IN the final, calling them the worst team to win the cup in any way shape or form is pretty fucking near sighted
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave one pretty fucking clear criterion as to why I called them the worst team in 25 years to win. You can argue that it’s unsophisticated, and that’s fine. There are probably lots of other criteria by which they weren’t the worst. But if you want to argue that they weren’t 7th overall, you’ll lose.
I would point out that most teams have to win 16 games over four teams before they get the Cup, so that alone isn’t a sign of greatness amongst champions.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a reason no one cares about the regular season in May.
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there is a hell of a difference between winning 16 games and battling for 16 games, remember the Ottawa senators cup run? when every single team they played against decided it wasn’t worth the bother then they got walked all over in the cup final?
This Bruins team fought through three 7 game series and won the cup
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and your point isnt unsophisticated, it is stupid
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, your argument is brilliant by contrast. Good teams “battle” through difficult series, poor teams just win easily. Anyone can win in four games; it takes a great team to lose the first two and still win.
7th overall means there were six better teams over an 82 game season. Only one other champion has ever placed that poorly. It may be unsophisticated but it’s not at all stupid.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Burtch'd, because you called me stupid
Hey, the 1985 Oilers went 15-3 in the playoffs. Not much battling there. What a crappy championship team that must have been. Worst all time, or were the 16-2 Oilers in 1988 even worse? Maybe the 12-1 Canadiens in ’76?
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
no, I said your point was stupid, not you, there is a difference.
You seem to have regular season finish confused with something that means “cup winner”. If it did, then they wouldn’t even bother to hold the playoffs every year.
If Boston was “the worst” then they shoudn’t have been able to beat so many “better” teams.
If Vancouver was the best, then they should have easily handled the Bruins. Hell if their presidents trophy means so bloody much than they should have been able to slack off as much as they want and mowed through the lowly 7th place bruins!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
also, you can’t even Burtch properly, its 3+ comments in a row.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you got me there. Even two in a row makes me feel defensive.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Good grief, I said Boston was the worst winner. That’s not a comparison to the 2011 Lightning, it’s a comparison to the 2004 Lightning, who finished first in their conference and second overall. It’s a comparison to the 2nd overall 1988 Oilers, or the first overall 2008 Red Wings.
Obviously the Bruins were the best team in the playoffs this year, although it hurts my fingers to type it. They were certainly better than Vancouver on the ice. I think Vancouver should have been better, but they weren’t – not even close – and thus my rant.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still trying to figure how this matters? What does them being more than half way up the depth chart in the standings going into the playoffs matter if they win? Just because they are the lowest (correct word, not worst) finishing team in the regular season ever to win the cup is nothing but an interesting stat
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what
It doesn’t matter very much. It is mostly just an interesting stat. And ‘worst’ really is just shorthand for ‘lowest finishing’. But I still maintain that it’s a meaningful criterion – it’s not a coincidence that the best team in the playoffs usually does very well in the regular season.
(It may not be a true Burtch, but I can obsess over trivialities)
And it does lead to my original point that I strongly believe the Canucks should have been the better team – and with Thomas playing the way he was, they could have been much better than they were and still lost. That’s what I’m pissed about – they were so bad that I can’t even call Boston lucky for winning.
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by Back In Black on Jun 16, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, if I’m reading this correctly, Boston did have the lowest save percentage against and highest save percentage for:
http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_team_statistics.php?ds=22&s=18&f1=2010_p&c=0+1+2+3+4+13+18+21
In other words, Tim Thomas.
by stevesmith19 on Jun 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
right, Tim Thomas was flat out god like and destroyed the canucks offensive chances that were able to penetrate the amazingly well played trap system
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto Luongo allowed as many goals in one game of the series than his team scored in the entire series. I’m not quite sure which side of the equation was the problem.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Luongo at least had some flat out amazing games in there, his home stats were phenomenal, even with last nights game
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He also got two shutouts. One game is one loss, no matter how many goals against, but being unable to score the entire series is a more pervasive issue.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
If the Canucks had won in anything but a blowout they would have been the first Stanley Cup champion since 16-team playoffs to win a cup with a negative goal differential.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
“… in the playoffs” should be added in case that wasn’t clear.
Seriously, even the completely terrible hurricanes managed a +13.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1
Conveniently, they also had a goalie who went on a great run. Maybe now we can stop with the silly argument from last year about how you don’t need goaltending to win.
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by Draglikepull on Jun 16, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the best reads out there… surprisingly its from Grantland…
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6658200/lord-stanley-grail
good read, just finished the first page, did not know there were 3 cups, I knew about there being 2 though.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jun 16, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else find it weird that the Vancouver police are trying to pitch some strange story where a few rogue anarchists snuck into the crowd wearing Canuck jerseys so they could start shit last night? We’ve all seen the videos and the pictures, we all know who caused the violence – angry Canuck fans. The attempts by some people to pitch this as a minor thing that only a few people took part in is very strange indeed.
I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
It’s in vogue these days to blame any civil disobedience or violence on vague ‘anarchists’.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
I don’t see how they could blame it on anyone else. If they say “yeah, it was angry Canucks fans that did this”, it looks even worse for both the city and the team.
So they say “anarchists” to save face…even if we/they know what really happened…
1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1
ya know..
I said the same thing to my friend who’s a canuck fan: seems like those angry anarchists really went a long way to disguise their identity that they went out and blew good money on those ugly canuck jerseys just so they could wear them for one evening.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jun 17, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
These two messages showed up consecutively in my Twitter feed. Thought it made for an interesting coincidence:
NBCSportsPR NBCSportsPR
by bruce_arthur
#StanleyCup Final Game 7 on NBC draws 8.54 mil, most for ANY NHL game in 38 years (Mon-Chi – gm. 6, 9.4 mil in 1973).
FriedgeHNIC Elliotte Friedman
Game 7 ratings: 8.76 million. Peak at 11.2. 18.45 million of you watched the game at some time. All records. Thank you for your support.
I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
Sadly a rerun of Full House pulled 12.3 mil at the same time in the US
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jun 16, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions
hahahaha
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
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by JaredFromLondon on Jun 16, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Zdeno's left bicep
Looks like it’s exploding out his shirt
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
"You can't come in my kitchen, kick my dog, and take a box full of ballpoints! Your ass must be crazy!"
Wow
It didn’t take Chara long to shave his beard and legs.
"Callgirl! She was a callgirl!"
"No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!"
24/02/11: I was there.
"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton
I liked when Vancouver lost.
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
by sportsfan2 on Jun 16, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
150 people were treated for injuries, 0 deaths reported.
most of those treated were for tear gas exposure.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
by nhlcheapshot on Jun 17, 2011 5:58 AM EDT up reply actions

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