We've Got Fourth Liners in Spades
by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2011 7:00 AM EDT
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With the signing of Darryl Boyce yesterday, the Leafs find themselves with an awful lot of bottom 3 talent going into training camp. There's the aforementioned Boyce, Colton Orr, Mike Brown, Mike Zigomanis, Philippe Dupuis, and Jay Rosehill. None of these players have a ceiling higher than the 4th line in the NHL and none of these players scream out essential AHL veteran (except for Zigomanis). What are we doing with all these guys?
Now granted injuries will happen throughout the lineup and there will be a necessity to move players up the depth chart in order to fill holes, but the Leafs have more than enough true prospects waiting in the wings and deserving of their shot at the NHL. If Joffrey Lupul goes down, who are we replacing him with; Jay Rosehill or Matt Frattin? Exactly.
The biggest question mark of those 6 players is Philippe Dupuis. If the plan was to sign Zigomanis to replace Brent, then why also sign Dupuis? With his 1-way contract, it just seems like a waste of money and an SPC. Hopefully Burke has a bigger plan for these guys that I'm just not seeing, because right now it seems like he's randomly signing guys without one. Time will tell.
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67sound mentioned, and I agree with him, that waiver/contract status will be more important than how well these guys do in training camp when it comes to who cracks that fourth line.
I guess Dupuis, Boyce, Zigomania are only there in case of an injury, or someone shits the bed royally. We’re still gonna see too much of Rosehill and Orr I think.
Also, as you just pointed out on twitter, looks like only Kadri’s waiver exempt among guys expected to battle for NHL jobs out of camp, so it’ll be tough to shuttle guys like Zigo, Dupuis, Boyce, Rosehill etc. between the AHL and NHL. More likely that the Frattins and Colbornes of the world will be injury replacements.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was only goalies. Maybe I’m wrong.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
what about everyones boi Luca?? is he waiver exempt? i personally think he should be given a shot at a 3rd line roll, and believe he still has potential to thrive in that sort of roll.
by gnarlybattleship on Jul 15, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone looked at Orr’s more in-depth stats, or would that be just a waste of time? I know he doesn’t score… but how bad is he at giving up scoring chances?
I guess it doesn’t help that he never fails to take 1 or 2 dumbass penalties per game. All I want from him is:
-discipline
-give the puck to someone else and start skating up the ice
-hit someone when you get there
-punchisize Carkner’s face
They really are dumbass penalties.
If you look at my Win Threshold Part III, I include a section on Penalties drawn – taken and his is like -2.8./gp
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
He is really quite bad. He takes a lot of defensive zone starts but it’s against pillow soft competition (last among Leafs forwards with > 30 GP) and gets steamrolled (second last in Corsi On, last in Corsi Rel).
But he’s a beast of a fighter.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah, ok.
I just did a capgeek check last night and his AHL salary was N/A. Do you happen to know what it is?
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Think I remember hearing 80k, but can’t find it now. Might have just been speculation anyway.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jul 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Capgeek says AHL: $75,000 NHL: $500,000
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
errr..sorry those are last years numbers
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
AHL salary is $250k I believe. I tweeted it the day he signed.
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by James Mirtle on Jul 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone have a scouting report on Tyler Brenner?
by Jack rides ducks on Jul 15, 2011 7:43 AM EDT reply actions
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Zombie Yul Brenner would have to outplay Zigomanis for the spot.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://leafshq.com/2011/03/21/prospectwatch-tyler-brenner/
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by Mathius Leaf on Jul 15, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
who doesnt?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he's a decent sized kid
who can put the puck in the net… he’s yet another attempt on Burke’s part to find a power forward.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the 4C position will come down to Boyce or Dupuis. I don’t think Zigomanis makes the cut. I really hope Boyce gets the job.
based on his play last year
Boyce is lightyears better… but … his PDO was absurdly high, so it’s unlikely to be repeated.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we have truculence!
There's always next season!
by B-Style on Jul 15, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Team Corsi/Fenwick Ratings
Link: http://redlinestation.blogspot.com/2011/07/corsi-rankings.html
Confirms what we saw that the Leafs had trouble controlling the play this season. Hopefully that improves, otherwise we’re talking about a lottery pick.
anyone who thinks that our problems last season were solely related to goaltending needs to take a good look at these numbers…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jul 15, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They certainly do not tell a very inspiring tale
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but goaltending will be the most important factor this season if the Leafs hope to compete for that 8th seed
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Correct. If this was 2010 and we were reviewing the stats from 2009, it would be a different story.
The positive spin to this is that the Leafs are the youngest they’ve been in years. It would be silly to think that they won’t improve. Enough to rely on merely average goaltending? No. Remier/Gus are crucial to our playoff hopes.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Anaheim was worse than us in those above ratings, but got .915 (just above average) goaltending and ended up as the 4-seed. The Leafs certainly have other ways they can improve, but at this point no issue is more glaring, and no issue, if repaired, would make as big an impact as improving our .907 goaltending.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
A .907, I should add, that was only brought near respectability by Reimer’s likely unsustainable .921. Gustavsson put a .890 up for the season, and Giguere a .900.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Hiller was also out most of the year, healthy Hiller makes them much better
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
He did get 49 games in the regular season. They were probably aiming for around 55 when the vertigo became a problem. They could’ve done really well if he’d been around for the playoffs.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but again he tried to play with vertigo, im sure that messed him up for some of the games he did play
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
the kessel
bozak, crabb line was atrocious.
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by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ottawa is my most hated team.
With a little work we can sway that poll guys.
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by The Meatriarchy on Jul 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions
i love it.
I hate Ottawa because the team and it’s fans just took the identity & history of the team that used to play there instead of coming up with something original.
I then realised who was asking the question….
Should I post my reasoning on the board? is it subtle enough?
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The commandment FUCK THE FUCKING HABS doesn’t even need a period after it. It says it all. FUCK THE FUCKING HABS
It is to be emblazoned in the finest samite and placed, softly, within a holy box… then burnt into the hardest darkest carbonite sides of the box itself… the box raised to the skies… opened… closed… do that a few times, just for proper airing, after all, there’s burnt carbonite residues flying around, don’t need to take chances with your health… and then, THEN, a mighty trumpet sounded… as all other comments on this thread are killed with fire… for there is NO possible evil as evilish and eviler as the HABS (no period needed) and any other possible enemy or opponent are mere monkeys in suits (see: Ottawa)… a babble of baboons (Vancouver)… and alotta-who-gives-a-fuck-bout-them-fuckers (the rest)… anyway, the TRUMPET shall sound… and the HABS will be trounced, then beaten, plus Jesus will return (wearing #17) AND THE CUP HANDED TO…. OLAS
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by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I might accept Jesus wearing 17, but no one else other than Clark. He’d have to ask permission still though.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But the poll is about NHL teams..
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I asked this yesterday
but it was the end of the day.
Now that rosters are being finalized… free agency is wrapping up, rookies are drafted, trades made, who do you see as the playoff teams? top in each conference? champion?
I can see the east looking like this, in order of playoff performance:
1. Washington Capitals
2. Pittsburgh Penguins
3. Boston Bruins
4. New Jersey Devils
5. Tampa Bay Lightning
6. New York Rangers
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. Toronto Maple Leafs
Then WSH, PIT, NJ & NYR advance, with WSH & PIT going to the conference finals, and WSH going to the finals
In the west here are my predictions:
1. Las Angeles Kings
2. Chicago Blackhawks
3. Vancouver Canucks
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Detroit Red Wings
6. Nashville Predators
7. Anaheim Ducks
8. Calgary Flames
With LAK, CHI, VAN & SJ advancing, LAK & CHI making the conference finals, and LAK advancing
WSH takes it all over LAK
I find it really difficult to break things down into exact seeds. I always liked the idea of a tiered system.
Example:
tier 1: Pittsburgh, Washington, Boston – teams you know will make the playoffs, likely in the top 4 seeds
tier 2: Buffalo, Philadelphia, Rangers – teams you expect to make the playoffs, but they’re not sure-fire top 4 seeds
tier 3: Tampa, New Jersey, Florida, Toronto, Montreal, Carolina, Winnipeg – teams battling for the bottom 2, possibly 3 seeds
tier 4: Islanders, Senators – bottom dwellers
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by birky on Jul 15, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like that. I would also be surprised (barring any Miller injury) if Buffalo did not make the playoffs.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo could win the cup. Look at their roster. Two strong scoring lines, top 4 D of Myers, Ehrhoff, Regehr, Leopold. And Miller, of course.
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Yeah I agree. They’re alot deeper than alot probably give them credit for being.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo lives and dies by Ryan Miller. If they play him for 70+ games again, they’ll make a quick 1st round exit.
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I don’t think Buffalo will see significant improvements in their ability to control the play, meaning they’ll have to pull a Boston to win the cup.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really think they will win the cup. I just think they have a deep enough team to be a tough opponent in the playoffs. But like Skinny said, they rely heavily on Miller (although I think they’d be fairly safe to give Enroth more starts to help alleviate that problem) and that could of course create a problem pretty early on in the postseason.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember, according to Ubiquitous, Pominville’s going to be out for months. That’s the only reason they aren’t cap screwed.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
dont forget the Addition of Ville Leino
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He’s not a bad player, just not worth 4.5 million per year
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Please tell me those douchenozzles got matching ribcage tattoos that night.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Too many white belts.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Jul 15, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
White belts should be left for the golf course.
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by FLYERROB on Jul 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s a sold player…but I can’t see him scoring more than 65 points in a year. Don’t think I would pay him that much money over that term, for that.
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65 is an excellent winger. Not sure if he’ll even reach that in Buffalo. He played with Hartnell and Giroux the majority of the time in PHI so unless he plays with Derek Roy, he’s playing with poorer linemates. And even then I’d take Giroux over Roy.
I think the world of Giroux…agreed. 65 is an excellent winger, but that is his, in my mind, possible ceiling. To lock up that much money in someone on a possibility is questionable.
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by TheBurnward on Jul 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Where are these numbers coming from?
He has had terrible seasons until last year (and the playoffs)
how is he suddenly a 65 pt player? That’s like top 2 on any team
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree. I just think that is his ceiling…and question the contract.
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by TheBurnward on Jul 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I was tempted to put the Islander’s into your Tier 3. They’re starting to look good, they have a really good core, just no goalie. I don’t think Philly is a tier 2 team anymore. I mean I think they’ll make the playoffs but I think they’ll be battling for 7 or 8. Boston should be tier 2 but since there’s no competition for the divsion they’ll win it.
I think NJ is good, Florida is tier 4, and carolina is probably also tier 4… carolina isn’t improving their team very much at all year to year.
They’re starting to look good, they have a really good core, just nogoalieKomisarek.
Fixed.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d drop Winnipeg to Tier 4 and Buffalo to tier 3
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Tier 1 – Penguins, Caps, Bruins – will make the playoffs; likely division winners
Tier 2 – Flyers, Canadiens, Lightning, Sabres, Rangers – will make the playoffs unless something terrible happens
Tier 3 – Hurricanes, Leafs, Panthers, Islanders, Devils – teams on the bubble who leapfrog someone above
Tier 4 – Jets, Senators – LOL
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Also note that for every team in Tier 2, the “something terrible” is going to be goaltending. Every one of those teams are basically good teams that can be completely undone by cruddy goaltending.
I think the Leafs are finishing 10th (+/- 1 spot), and the 2012/13 is when we mature into a playoff team.
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Except Boston has Rask.
None of the Tier 2 teams have a backup of that qualty.
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Right, but they’re still relying on a goaltender, no matter who he is. If Thomas/Rask go down, Boston goes with them. I realize I’m probably taking liberties with your definition of “something terrible”.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t call Canadiens a Tier 2 team that can be undone by cruddy goaltending.
I would call the Canadiens a Tier 3 team that can be overdone by amazing goaltending
yeah this is the best description of the habs of late.
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I could easily see Sabres and Bruins switching places.
It’s too bad future luck is not dependent on past luck. If it was, Boston would finally have some bad years ahead.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Ben ! What the Dilly Yo !
You have NY Rangers and New Jersey Devils Higher than the FLYERS. Are You High ? …
I see it this way
1. Washington Capitals
2. Boston Bruins
3. Philadelphia Flyers
4. Pittsburgh Penguins
5. Tampa Bay Lightning
6. Buffalo Sabres
7. Montreal Canadiens
8. Toronto Maple Leafs
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sorry man! I just don’t see it happening! Richards and Carter were too integral! Bryz will be super helpful this year though
NJ is going to be pretty Solid with Parise – Kovalchuk up front and if they get any kind of coaching they should do well
The more I look at the NYR the more they look pretty stacked.. great players up front with Richards – Gaborik, guys like Callahan, Dubinsky, etc. Pretty decent bottom 6, super solid on D and one of the best goalies in the league :/
Sorry but the Pens are better than the Flyers. You guys managed to finish one point ahead of a team who this season will have 2 of the top 5-10 players in the world they didn’t previously have.
I think that statement should better read:
Sorry but the Pens are better than the Flyers. You guys managed to finish one point ahead of a team who this season will have 2 of the top 1-5 players int he world, while you had 2 of the top 20 centers in the league—something you no longer have.
I still don’t know if I would put Malkin top 5 hence why I said top 5 or 10. Obviously Crosby is #1. And totally agree about the Flyers losing 2 of top 20 centres in the league.
Also replacing Mike Richards defensive with Max Talbot LOL!
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by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
To me Malkin is easily one of the 5 most dominant players in the world, when he’s on. He’s lacked consistency and had major injuries the last 2 years so he’s faded from memory a bit. But he is truly incredible. I mean go back and look at video of the Pens cup run. He has “take over a game, take over a series” ability.
in 09 he was #1 in the world probably.. I mean historically he’s never been the best player in the world.. its always been crosby and ov above him while he’s been alive, but for that year he was the most dominant, going 82gp 35g 78a 113pts
He followed that up with an amazing performance though, going 67gp 28g 49a 77pts
not much to complain about there
and putting up
4gp 3g 3a 6pts in the Olympics and 5gp 5g 2a 7pts in the world championships.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice
to have more NHL ready bodies but such low potential on so many doesn’t bode well. Still, maybe it signals that when the Leafs do draft/develop in spades, those guys won’t be shipped out for mercs now. Ha ha, I know, Leafs take drafting and developing seriously…
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by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, Kulemin, Gunnarsson, hell Wendel Clark!
such terrible drafting and developing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Luke schenn dropped way too far down someone had to take the kid before his heart was broken.
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by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Clark, Damphousse, Potvin, Kaberle, Markov, Gunnarson, Domi, Stajan, Steen, Leeman, Carlyle, Rask, Boyes, Antropov, Kadri, Schenn, Reimer, Kulemin, Perreault, Richards, Gill, Iafrate, Sittler, MacDonald, Williams, Courtnall, Modin, Berezin, Borschevsky, Mironov, and also pretty much half the referees and coaches in the league.
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by Chuck Diesel on Jul 15, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry butthe Pens are better than the Flyers.You guys managed to finish one point ahead of a team who this season will have 2 of the top 1-5 players int he world, while you had 2 of the top 20 centers in the league—something you no longer have.
All you need to say :)
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Really Flyers over Pens? betting Crosby is sitting to start the season?
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with a healthy crosby and Malkin the Pens are EASILY better than the flyers with all of their new additions . It’s not Flyers hate
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
To say nothing of the fact that now Crosby has Neal on his wing, who’s going to score 40 as a result.
yup, a full year of Neal and a chance for them to build chemistry
look out
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know about that. Crosby has slowly become more a goal scorer, and for the past couple of year his goals have gone up and his assists down. He’s a 50G, 50A player now. When he recorded 70 assists a few year back playing with Malkin, Malkin only had 35 goals….and he’s Malkin.
I think Neal should score 30, but that’s about it.
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well being on a line with Crosby and being at least semi good at putting the puck in the net means you get a ton of space
he isnt a lock for 40 or anything but it is easy in his reach if he has a decent season, he scored 27 two years ago without crosby
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i thought someone brought up the numbers and he only played a small portion of his time with richards? or was that Benn?
meh, we’ll see
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If I had my pick it would be Eriksson
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to say Eriksson isn’t good but Benn is younger but has outperformed Eriksson at a similar age. He also currently has comparable advanced stats, despite being much younger. I believe Eriksson played with Richards as well.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
he's the oldest
so that wouldn’t be the best choice.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
even if he did play with Richards. You can’t call that a wash.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize that but aside from the powerplay, he’s kind of had to adjust from playing with scrubs like Kunitz, Guerin, etc.
I mean they’re not bad players but they can’t keep up to his level of play—who can.
Maybe when he sees that Neal can shoot he sets him up more.
I agree that he’s a pretty balaned player.. can easily go 50g 60a and what not.
Still though, Neal is a shoot-first
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention his size will open up even more room for Crosby. Crosby with Neal and Kunitz will be one hell of a line to stop.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I also think they might move malkin to the wing and put Staal in the 2C spot
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah I’ve heard that a bunch
Maybe the logic being that Malkin can do a lot more from the wing, and that after allowing him to last year, they want Staal in a more offensive role?
He kind of underwelmed last year on the top line, but I guess it was an adjustment.
Maybe they’re hoping for Staal to pull a Kesler
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Or, pull an Eric. Ha!
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by TheBurnward on Jul 15, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They already did that last year when healthy…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
With a healthy crosby and Malkin the Pens are cup favorites!
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
As stated by others, the Flyers barely beat out the Pens who missed Crosby from January 3rd or 4th onward and Malkin who missed most of the games.
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Not to mention they played an entire game and a half with Crosby and Staal on the roster at the same time as Staal missed the first 39 games of the season.
Lotta Crosby Man Crushin’ Going on in here but thats ok …..
With the subtraction of Talbot…..
and will MAF be the Goalie of 2009 or the Goalie of 2010 ????
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Crosby tied Jeff Carter in points (tied 30th overall) despite only playing 41 games.
I don’t understand how you think a healthy Crosby is an amazing thing for the Pens (plus a hopefully healthy Malkin).
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I don’t think anyone is “Crosby Man Crushin’” as you say…
He’s only the best player in the world..
who the fuck is bryzgalov?
Miller was the best goalie, but nobody was more valuable to his team this year than Coyotes
goalie Ilya Bryzgalov. The Russian had a 42-20-5 record with a 2.30 GAA and .920 SP with eight
shutouts. He carried the money-starved Desert Dogs, who had missed the playoffs for six
straight seasons, to the third-best record in the conference.
It comes down to the talent around the two goalies. Simply, the Sabres were better from top
to bottom than the Coyotes, which supports the argument Bryzgalov needed to be more valuable
than Miller even if he wasn’t necessarily better.
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Was more valuable to his team than Bryz, I would argue
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best single season numbers ever for a goalie?
yah huh he was
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
Roloson
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Not ever...
just since SV% started being officially tracked.
Jacques Plante (I think it was him) put up like a .942 or .943 before SV% was officially tracked.
This article is referring to the season Miller won the Vezina.
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Oh. Well what did Bryz to last year then?
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lied down and died in the playoffs?
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Pheonix had some injuries this year
Lepisto, Upshall, Morris out of their starters.
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I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Same thing last year, he had a 2.48 and a .921
but he choked hard in the playoffs,
and the coyotes had a little more support with guys like Yandle emerging
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
before you argue … check the stats
http://www.nhl.com/ice/app ~ 8th overall in regular season is Bryzgalov for last year on a lesser talented team of phoenix – place him in Philadelphia with a better defense and a better offense and his numbers should be better.
and in 2009 – 2010 he was 11th overall in playoffs and again.. with lesser talented D Men in front of him…
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he has also never faced the kind of pressure he will face in Philly before, he might fold like a broken lawn chair
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Phoenix
Plays a very tight defensive game as well though. They may be “lesser talented”, but they play a good system, which helps goaltenders
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Plus its not like they had complete hacks on the blue line. They had Yandle, Jovanovski and Michalek for example in 09/10. Maybe not Timonen/Pronger/Coburn etc but not exactly scraps either.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
Vernon Fiddler was one of the best defensive centremen last year.
35.9% Ozone start, but with a 947 on ice team SV%.
Phoenix was not lacking for defense, that’s for sure
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ok .. Aucoin, Ekman-Larsson, Kesla, Morris, Yandle, Rozsival
OR.. Cobourn, Timonen, Pronger, Carle, Meszaros, Lilja ….
OR.. Cobourn, Timonen, Pronger, Carle, Meszaros, Lilja ….as a goalie.. Which D would you rather have in front of you ?
OR.. Cobourn, Timonen, Pronger, Carle, Meszaros, Lilja ….as a goalie.. Which D would you rather have in front of you ?and FIddler was a better D Centerman shut down forward … only because Blair Betts was injured for most of the season the last two years.
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I would take the coyotes any day, less expensive and younger
Prongers contract alone is enough to swing me away
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t leave off Jovanoski..
and honestly the difference between your top 4 and Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Aucoin and Jovanoski and your guys isn’t that huge. Philly’s d is better, i’m not going to try and convince anyone otherwise, but in 2 years? Edman-Larsson and Yandle are running this league lol
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes it’s not about the D you have, but the system they run. What if Pronger goes down with an injury again? He’s getting old and injury prone, and as the playoffs showed when he is out the Flyers really struggle
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Pronger is already out for training camp… again.
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I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
dude… he is a Sure Fire NHL HHOF player… Its more the FLYERS telling him he doesnt have to make Training camp to preserve the gas tank.
Do you really think that Pronger missing a Training Camp will have him not Ready for the regular season ? .. it may take him a few games to get ready but its the “Brett Favre” approach to Training camp
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He’s the captain isn’t he? They’re not letting the captain sit out of training camp if he’s not injured
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
actually he will be at camp.. just not training .. and yes it is the organization and Pronger’s “take it slow and easy dont return during pre-season and get injured during a preseason game” Approach.
It would be stupid to have him come back for Training camp to re-injure himself.
Again.. he is a NHL HHOF shoo in… he doesnt need to do training camp to learn how to play in the NHL … he knows.. he just needs 3 or 5 games to get his game legs.
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So basically
you’re old and wearing out, please don’t elbow yourself, just take it easy
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And how well did the whole Brett Favre approach work for Brett Favre over the last few years?
No one is doubting Pronger’s credentials or skill. But he’s wearing down and there’s no chance he plays all the remaining games after he does eventually start the season. He gets beaten up much more easily nowadays.
2 years ago? to the NFL NFC Championship game.
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Favre drops back throws picked off and the game is lost!
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s a HHOF player for sure. But he’s played in 4 olympic games had his name in the first EA sports game.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
how many NHL players can say they played against golden age Gretzky, Lemieux, Bure, Yzerman, Sakic and countless others?
dude is a horse, but an ooooold horse
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
No kidding plus his physical play means even more wear and tear on his body.
Dude is arguably the 2nd best Dman of his generation, but his generation is coming to a close.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
second comes right after first!
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
D men tend to stay longer in the league. … Mark Howe.. Brad Marsh.. Chris Chelios.. Al MacInnis… Ray Bourque … yadda yadda yadda
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None of those guys were as physical as Pronger. Just like how skilled forwards last longer than power forwards. Prongers style of play takes a bigger toll on the body.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
His elbows are eroding
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
so by your argument .. if he does last almost as long as Chelios and as long or longer than the other guys… based on his physical way of playing (like Derian Hatcher) .. Then .. by your standards.. that deserves some recognition .. correct.. .. because I am sure … no .. I am POSITIVE.. Pronger will be playing .. and playing at least 75% of the seasons .. till 2014
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no one is discounting his career, but what he has done in the past has very little bearing on what he does in the future now that his joints are falling appart
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said he doesn’t deserve recognition. I’ve already said he’s probably the 2nd best Dman of his generation (Linstrom is #1 obviously… Its either Pronger or Neidemeyer for #2)
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I still cant believe Pronger and Neidermeyer were a defensive pairing, that is just unfair
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I had Nik Lidstrom on my Fantasy Hockey team 5 years ago and he was putting up some serious numbers for me.
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I had him last year and he put up some serious #’s for me…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure about 2014, but even if he does play then, he’s no Zombie
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think he gets a major injury earlier in the 2012-2013 season and is done…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
all of those guys are pre-lockout players
the game is faster, and players are bigger and stronger,
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
None of those guys played recently other than Zombie.. how about Niedemeyer?
First, I think Pronger retires in a couple years
Second, you can’t argue that Pronger is not succumbing to the years of banging he’s done
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Scott Niedermayer retired at 36 (Pronger is 37) but it wasn’t because of poor play.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
I think more he was feeling the aches and pains too much and wanted to get out while he could still move when he’s 60.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Klesla was added at the trade deadline. Not really sure he should be included in that group.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a good goalie
but the team isn’t really going to affect SV% at all, except perhaps allowing better shots
but if you actually look at it, Phoenix plays a great defensive system. Phoenix’s defense isn’t the problem with their team.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Crosby>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bryzgalov
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s from the year Myers won the Vezina
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
given some of the comments below, posting something by Bucky Gleason in this thread probably won’t get you too far.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah post a steve simmons article while you’re at it.
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Simmonds (spellchecker is a great feature.)
You mean Simmonds ….. spell it right…
Simmonds (6-2, 181 pounds) had 14 goals, 16 assists and a minus-2 rating last season for Los Angeles, one year after totaling 16 goals, 24 assists and a plus-22 rating in 2009-10.
"
Wayne is a rough and tumble, rugged winger who we think has a real upside in terms of offensive production," Holmgren said when the Flyers acquired Simmonds. "We look for big things from Wayne."
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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-07-07/philadelphia-flyers-sign-forward-wayne-simmonds
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No he doesn’t. He means Simmons
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
no, he means steve simmons the hack who writes about the Leafs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
lol FLYERROB lol
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Wayne Simmonds writes articles?
um..also SBNation doesn’t have spell check in their posting features,..but if you’re going to start that game…
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Excuse me .. my bad… I am not from Toronto so I am not familiar with Steve Simmons who is an everyday sportswriter in Toronto…..
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he gets ripped on here for being a dingus and a hack on an almost daily basis.
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
he gets ripped on here for being a dingus and a hack on an almost daily basis.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
We had a whole thread of us putting idiotic shit coming out of his mouth last week.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw man
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
DINGUS…. haha ! I have not heard that one in a loooooonnnggggggg time.
Of topic… has anyone here seen the movie “Hall Pass” ..
That movie was funnier than I thought it was going to be !!!!
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of topic?
spellchecker is a great feature
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Haha I bet you were just dying to bust that out
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s going to be my entertainment for the day
I’m an ass and proud of it.
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ok.. when you misspell something on SBNation… it has a red squiggly line underneath the word… so it is a feature. just not the one that your used to with Word Document.
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That’s Firefox actually.
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And whaddya know, I have firefox at home but not here.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yep can’t install anything at work
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I didn’t know it was Firefox that did that. The things you learn here at PPP!
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My firefox at home does it but my firefox at work doesn’t.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Maybe its disabled?
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Who knows, the whole thing runs through some crazy security program, I think it’s a pretty old version of Firefox that’s been modified.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Oh, that’s probably the reason.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
“Simmons” and “Simmonds” are both names anyway, so wouldn’t they both be highlighted?
by 9 Dollar Beer on Jul 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure it does that for everyone. Doesn’t for me at work, but I think it does actually on my home laptop.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the browser not SBN.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I watched it and expected it to be terrible.
It was a 6.5-7
I laughed a few times
also better than I expected
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Dingus is one of those words when used properly, it can be so much more descriptive then any other insult.
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s good.
But what you’re saying is he took a bad team to the playoffs.
Flyers aren’t a bad team. They’re just not elite anymore. He won’t be MVP this year..
he’ll be good as ever though which is top 10
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The Flyers traded away 2 of the best 2way centres in the game. Who is going to replace those tough minutes? Who is going to line match against Crosby?
Giroux? The guy is great, but he has never played that role alone so I doubt he is ready yet (he probably will be soon)
Briere? He was an incredibly sheltered player
B Schenn or Couturier? You are nuts if you think they are going to be ready to take on that role
Face it man, Carter and Richards are not easy to replace. And the 2 best defenders on the team (Timmo and Pronger) are getting pretty long in the tooth.
You are banking on goaltending, except that the Penguins have MAF. He had a rough season in 09-10 (.905), but in other years he has consistently been a .910+ goalie, and hit a .918 last year.
The Penguins have a great defense (probably a better defense), and way better depth at centre. The Flyers have better wingers, and a bunch of guys who may be really good in a few years. But outside of goaltending saving them, there is no reason to believe the Flyers are a better team.
I would put Jagr or Briere out against Crosby
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and they would get destroyed
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah you can’t really shut down Crosby with anyone, especially those two. Jagr probably can’t skate anymore, and Briere would be flicked away by Crosby like a mosquito.
there are very few forwards in the NHL who are strong enough and fast enough and clever enough to do a passable job defending Crosby, one of them was Mike Richards
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Richards actually matched up well against Crosby
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I am sure the FLYERS will finish Higher than the Penguins by the end of the regular season.
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This actually sounds like an intriguing betting proposal (not that I’d take it)
There’s a reasonable chance of it going either way, really.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
I’ll put a bet down on that, if you’re up for it.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Flower started off horribly but was fine later on in the season. But you’re right, I’m sure they’ll miss Max’s 21 points.
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Flower’s “Bad Start” meant putting up numbers for 8 games worse than Vesa Toskala’s first 8 games in his last season with the Leafs.
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I know, I was trying to sugar-coat it.
He was terrible and made me want to jump off a building.
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Exactly. Flower got like a week off cleared whatever was going on with him and was a top 5 goalie the rest of the season.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I like calling him McFlurry better
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
nuh uh, McFleury*
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but yet he still finished with a .918 and a 2.32
kind of shows you he’s good..
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont like to do things like this,
but if you take out the first 8 games, he’s got 2572 SA and 118 GA, for a 0.925
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you;re underselling Pittsburgh. Philly will probably be 3rd or 4th, but Pittsburgh are a better team if they are healthy
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i think they’ll have a hard time making the playoffs
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Schenn, Simmonds, Vorachek and Jagr are great upgrades for an off-season. To add that collection of players up front over a summer would boost most teams to contention. The problem is you had to lose 2 amazing players to do so, so its not as much of a boost as it would have been.
Personally I think Jagr is good for 45-50 points, though people have debated with me on this. Schenn should have a good rookie season and put up maybe 40 points. Simmonds is good for near 20 goals, another 40 points. I don’t know a lot about Vorachek but he’s in the same range as far as I understand.
And yes you have a good goalie. But adding those 4 guys, and losing those 2, plus now having to compete with Crosby and Malkin.. it’s not even close.
Giroux will have to play tougher minutes as well.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Jagr…I wonder how much Ovechkin is looking forward to repeating their olympic moment together.
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I admit I did Laugh at that .. at that time he was not a FLYER… Jagr will NEVER EVER EVER be a true FLYER with the fans. Its like Lindros Was never a Maple Leaf with the fans
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Except there were a LOT of fans thrilled to have Lindros. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lindros had the highest selling jersey to start that season
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Really ? Funny … When I was living half in Brantford and half in Philly with my Ex Canadian Wife in 2004 …. I recall ALLOT of the Toronto Fans not happy with Lindros as a Maple Leaf… I recall them calling him washed up .. saying that his father interferes with Management and Coaching. … Yadda yadda yadda
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That's because
aside from people on this blog, leafs fans are idiots. They think because Lindros wasn’t putting up 2pts/gp anymore he was washed up.
No fucking shit.. his brain was mush and he was in his 30s.
He still put up nearly ppg if I recall correct
I liked him here
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
33g 11g 11a 22pt
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I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
he also played a bunch of games hurt
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
okay so not ppg
but respectable for sure.. it wasn’t he 80s lol
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
80’s?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Rofl
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Like it wasn’t the 80s where everyone scored 5pts/gp
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohh I thought you meant when he scored at a ridiculous pace in the 80’s hahah
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
haha no
but that’s my original point
When he played in the early 90s, he was fucking unreal and in the top 3 players
then his brain got crushed by stevens a few too many times, and he got old
and leafs fans expected 1.5ppg?
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
yep everyone i talked to loved the signing. He stepped up his role as sundin was injured and made even more fans.
besides he always would say he wanted to play for Toronto. thats where he wanted to go instead of the Rangers, but Quinn and Clarke didn’t get along.
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mmhhmm, plus the hype coming out of the lockout was huge, everyone was excited to see him. Sure after the first part of the season idiots were all over him, but they were still thrilled to START the season.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yup. i kinda didn’t like the way he left the team, but then again I didn’t like the way the team was run at the time.
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why? why re-sign Belfour and Domi going IN to the lockout? okay Tanenbaum probably made him resign his tennis buddy Domi…
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Letting go of Roberts was the biggest mistake EVER.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
NO THE KESSEL TRADE LOL SEGUIN HAS A CUP TNX BYE BAAAHHH SHEEP
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
LOLZ STOOPID LAFF FANS LOLZ 1967 LOLZ
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
my god it hurts to have Brayden on the Flyers.
by leaflover4ever on Jul 15, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t think about it. Immerse your soul into meditating about Luke for salvation
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My God it hurts to have Luke on the Maple Leafs
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that makes no sense
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
it hurts the Leafs opponents.
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s like saying “yes, we gave away two 10s, but we got back two 6s who may later be 10s! So therefore, we’ll still be awesome now!”
They’er a 5-8 seed in the short term, mostly because they’re playing in a tough division. But they’re way worse now than they were before, and they’re way worse than the Penguins.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
This is exactly the part that confuses me.
When they got Schenn all anyone could say about his is that he might SOMEDAY be the player the Richards was…
There’s no guarentee that he ever will be that player, and its extremely unlikely he becomes more than that player. Its probably more like that Richards gets better than he was than to expect Schenn to be better than Richards is.
Its not like Carter and Richards were old..
and its not like they had high cap hits..
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Cotourier is very very talented, but the likely hood he ever becomes a 40 goal scorer with the defensive ability of carter is negligible
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
A Boat is a boat… but a mystery box could be anything… it could even be a Boat.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
next scene, joe and quadmire circling their lawns with the boats lol
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
All valid points. But they’ve been in cap hell for so long, I think if they’re smart about negotiating their RFA deals upcoming in the next couple of seasons, they might be positioning themselves for free agency 2013. Richards and Carter were great players, but it seemed like the team hit a wall with that group, they couldn’t surpass the truly elite teams in the East, nevermind the West. So if they can get solid contributions on cheap deals out of Schenn/Couturier/Simmonds/Voracek and go full steam ahead for someone like Getzlaf, you’ve gotta think that’s a much better team for a cup run than what they had when they went to the finals in 2010.
banking on a UFA crop years away is a terrible strategy
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially when most of those guys are probably going to get re-signed before July 1st that year
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m sure GM’s do keep these sorts of considerations in mind and factor them into decisions. As long as they aren’t the primary rationale for making those decisions.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
that is the exact reason why
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, everyone knows WE are getting Perry and Getzlaf in 2013.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
But then your pens will FAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s ok, the Leafs will WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNN
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this
is actually the best explanation i’ve seen yet for what the thought process is. Carter trade made sense to me, sort of. But the only way the Richards deal could be explained was that Snider was meddling.
Bryz an upgrade in net? No question.
Defense is still very very good.
But losing Richards/Leino/Carter up front is definitley 3 of their 5 best forwards. I bet Giroux and JVR step up with a bit more offense. But Briere’s on the decline. There’s just no way that Jagr/Voracek/Schenn/Simmons replace the offense and all around play of that trio.
In 2 years, then maybe yeah, they’re better position. ’Cept then their defense is geriatric.
Positioning themselves to build a better core in 18 months or so might be a good idea, but I don’t actually think that’s what they’re doing.
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Having thought abut it, I like the return on Carter way more than the return on Richards.
With Carter there was a great chance that the 8th pick would lead to one of Couturier / Hamilton / Zibanejad, and Voracek is going to be a great winger. In other words, while none of the players you could draft are likely going to become Richards, you can still address multiple needs in the roster with cost controlled players.
Simmonds just seems like a more physical, less score-y Versteeg (ie a good support player) and Schenn is going to be great but quite possibly not as good as Richards or Carter. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that if LA offered B Schenn + Simmonds for Kulemin + Kadri i’d say no.
Between losing Richards, Leino, Carter and Zherdev, the Flyers need to replace 94 goals just from them… do you think those four guys will score 23-24? I think one, maybe two will crack the 20 goal mark. JVR might contribute more goals but that’s not a sure thing either.
they did the same thing when we lost Gagne when we lost Knuble when we lost Forsberg when we lost Lindros when we lost Recchi when we lost JR when we lost LeClair when we lost Renberg. .. its the same story every year.
Every year we are in the top 10 in the league in goal scoring as a team .. some more than others.. but ..
I am sure we will get our goals.
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they did the same thing when we lost Gagne when we lost Knuble when we lost Forsberg when we lost Lindros when we lost Recchi when we lost JR when we lost LeClair when we lost Renberg. .. its the same story every year.
And which of those years led to the Flyers eventually becoming Stanley Cup winners?
Acquire good players and keep them.
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All I am I the only one that thinks Boston is not very good? I mean they’re pretty solid all around.. Same makeup as NYR and WSH kind of, but there’s no way anyone should suggest a repeat, and to put them 2nd in the east is.. well.. generous
The only reason I see them in the top 3 is because no one in our division can compete with them.
I’d suggest a repeat if Tim Thomas plays out of his fucking mind again
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
If Thomas/Rask don’t give them .920+ goaltending next year, they’re screwed. They don’t score enough and give up too many shots on goals to be able to win games without a stellar backstop.
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they will be at least slightly worse next season on the basis that there is pretty much zero chance in hell Thomas’ numbers are as good as last year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I fuckin hope not (but in all seriousness, not bloody likely)
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Maintaining an inflated shooting percentage next season is a job reserved for Nikolai Kulemin
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
I would add the caveat that he maintains it while doubling his shot output.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
When all you’re shooting at is empty nets, who isn’t? ;)
by Theodles on Jul 15, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha!
Your comment made me look up the leaders for empty net goals. Guess who’s there!
Thanks for the chuckle.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
In comparison...
the entire Leafs roster had 3 empty net goals ;)
Boston is not very good, as seen here: http://redlinestation.blogspot.com/2011/07/corsi-rankings.html
They had the highest save percentage for during the playoffs and one of, if not the highest, shooting percentages for.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
They were basically
The epitome of “get a hot goalie and hold on for your fucking life”
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Except they had a hot goalie for the entire year, which is kind of unheard of.
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I think, to their credit, that they played way better than Vancouver. Also, they mopped the floor with Philly.
Philly didn’t really have goaltending or defense though
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Philly fell apart pretty bad. Also, Cop&Blue’s analysis of the Tampa-Boston series shows Tampa actually controlling play / outchancing the Bruins in a lot of games (though the Bolts got manhandled in game 7).
The Bruins have 1 great Dman and had one of the best goalie performances of all time. But in a lot of ways they are a firewagon team.
Not that they didn’t deserve there cup or any crap like that. Like I said, they definitley outplayed Vancouver.
You have to be absurdly lucky to win in the playoffs. I don’t fault cup winners for being lucky unless they’re as bad as Carolina.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to be lucky to win in the playoffs, but sometimes I think we make to much of things like high shoot% in the playoffs being only luck driven. If you take one shot from the slot and score, or you bank in one rebound, and then play the trap the rest of the game, then your shoot% is 100 and it skews everything else.
Heres one: the Penguins were lucky against Detroit in ’09 because a Red Wing dinged the crossbar with 2 minutes left… except that the Penguins lost Crosby in the first period. So who was lucky?
Also, Fuck Carolina.
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…and they are the Cup champs.
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If the small sample size argument applies to Leino and others it sure as hell applies to the Bruins.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i would agree, but they whooped the ass of the President’s Cup winners. They earned my respect.
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They also earned my respect because they beat Vancouver but not because Vancouver won the President’s Cup.
Next year? I don’t think they do nearly as well. The lucky streak (exaggerating for effect) has to end sometime, right? Right? I really hope so.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s so hard to repeat in this league…I would think so.
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Agreed although I wasn’t referring just to the Cup. I would love to see Boston crash and burn next year.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually think they have a pretty good chance.
Their biggest holes (aside from prospects of course) are on defense. They didn’t do so bad in this department last year though. They lose Regher, but they still have Boumeister, and if he can be solid positionally at the least, they won’t do too bad. Last year they were kind of ruined by Goaltending, and there’s no reason to believe Kipprusov is broken.. just had an off year.
They’ll be a very high scoring team I expect,
I can see them competing with Columbus, Dallas, and potentially St. Louis but I think they have the best shot of those teams
We’re going to be competitive, for sure. Not a top seed in the West, but we’ll be in the playoff mix.
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I just don’t really see where any improvement came this off-season? Gone is Regher, Morrison (good bang for buck), nobody new in, everybody a year older… They do play a good team game so maybe they’ll sneak in but I just don’t see where the strength is.
I don’t think they really improved over the off-season either.
I just think they got burned last season with bad luck in goal/early scoring.
Not that its a be-all-end-all, but if you look at my Win Threshold Series in Fanposts, their Treshold shows that when you factor in Shots Against (how good the defense are) and Goals For (how good the forwards are) they were actually second in the west (league too I think).
This is going to change obviously, and its not a be-all-end-all as I said, but its a good indicator.
Kipper just had a terrible year by his standards, he should rebound.
I don’t think they’re a contender by any means though, so they should really just blow it up and get some prospects
You could make the same argument for the Leafs? Bad luck in goal and scoring early in the season? They both had pretty similar trajectories throughout the year. Anyway, I live in Calgary so if the Flames play well, everybody is in a better mood haha so good luck to them.
Not really sure about that. If you have free time I recommend you check out the series I published. It was frontpaged last week, you can find it in fanposts now.
Leafs were pretty average in both categories by the end of the year. After the trade deadline their defense was awful though. It was just masked by good goalscoring and awesome goalies. A goalie can rescue any team, but some teams don’t need rescuing. Excluding all goalies, the flames are probably in the top 12 teams in the league. Their goalie usually is as good as their team, he just had a terrible year last year.
What I’m trying to say is something like..
Vancouver is a top 5 team with a top 5 goalie, so that puts them around #1-2
Detroit is a top 5 team with a top 20 goalie, so that puts them around #5-10
Pittsburgh is a top 5 team with a top 10 goalie, so that puts them around #1-5
Toronto is a top 15 team with whatever the fuck happens goalie, so our rank is directly based on our goalie.
Montrela is a top 20 team with a top 5 goalie, so that puts them around #10-15
Calgary is a top 10-12 team, with a top 10-20 goalie. Thus they should finish around 10-15. The problem is, last year their goalie didn’t play up to standards and so they fell below where they realistically should be.
I love the current 3rds. The Leafs coming out with new blue thirds, if they’re anything like Berger is suggesting, won’t impress. They’ll basically be the same uniforms as our current home one with a slightly different crest. Bummer.
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Yeah, I’m for leaving ‘em as is. If they’re gonna change em, I want 80’s style (even if they are associated with a similarly frustrating time for the franchise, I think they look awesome).
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
thats what I always hear as the new 3rd, and I love those jerseys. They’re awesome, i always hint strongly to m’lady that i would lvoe a Clark one of those.
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They already sell Clark 80s jerseys (don’t think you can get them with any other name), I’ve seen them in a lot of sports stores.
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re-reading my horribly typed post, yeah it sounded like i meant I want one of the new 3rds, but i want the one you’re talking about, not an Edge version.
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NHL is getting better with the retro jerseys. Was in a Reebok store last week and they had ‘86-85 Neely B’s jerseys, which I may have to pick up. I shudder to think of the day when these are considered retro.
I just think the logo makes the whole thing look like a Chinese logo…..if in fact that is what the jersey will look like.
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i think it will be closer to Armstrong's uni shown here
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by birky on Jul 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
look at Clark’s face
terrifying
/swoon
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh, no Sundin :(
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't believe I found this, but...
I had done some Leafs jersey concepts a couple of years ago. To wit:
Thoughts?
I like the home and away concepts, alternate not so much. It looks like a blue and white version of what Captain Canuck might wear. Too gimmicky.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jul 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The Home and Away concepts are very similar to the 80’s style.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly what I was trying to achieve. Some teams look terrible in the arm stripe, but the Leafs looked great.
I agree, one of my personal favs. Like the concept
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. I’d like to see something classic, but different from anything the Leafs have ever done.
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or just develop a blue version of the current thirds.
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The alternate is a really interesting concept. I kind of like it. It actually reminds me of the old school Team Canada jerseys with the big leaf.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
that alternate hurts
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
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Alternate is a bit too much… Kinda reminds me of the 90’s Dallas Stars jerseys…….
I Prefer this jersey as a 3rd Jersey…
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Exactly, this is what I want to see:
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by Shield on Jul 15, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn’t mind one thick stripe replacing the two thin ones at the elbow
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Maybe the alternate should be red, really make sure everybody knows that the Leafs are Canada’s team.
My son knows not to cheer based on the colour of a teams jersy but based on the presence of a maple leaf.
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new 3rds
i didn’t know there was news out about them
i know it’s a rumour base dmock up, but that is a nice sweater.
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I always thought that a 3rd jersey was supposed to be a pretty big departure from the norm. Here they’ve just added a 3rd stripe and made the leaf slightly different. I guess I just don’t see the point in making such a similar jersey to the regular ones.
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Yeah I was just gonna say I agree with what Birky said initially. It’s nice enough, but I’d rather see them mix it up a little (without doing anything idiotic)
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
how MLSE sees 3rd jerseys
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
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by PKSube on Jul 15, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Last year’s third was so incredibly awesome this pales by comparison.
I just hope they leave the main jerseys the fuck alone. Original Six teams should not change jerseys.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I definitely want to have one of those thirds. I’ll probably grab a Kaberle 3rd and toss the A on it.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
My 3rd Jersey/Uniform Suggestions
The 1963-67 Blues
Or Super Vintage (also with a photo from Leafs HQ
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None of my suggestions had cooperalls, I know its sad.
"Wham...Wham...Kabam...Kabam... A double kabam! And it's a double dion!"
only two teams ever wore them in the NHL and they were both performed about as good as they looked.
Bam Bam.- digga digga damm
White skates on the California Seals. those were pretty bad as well.
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you’re talking the long pants when discussing cooperalls right and not just the cooperall girdle?
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
that always confuses me when people say no one wears cooperalls, when i knew people who did, they just wore normal hockey pants with them without the padding. I actually did wear the long pants for a year or so when i played peewee.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, those “Journalists” are Bucky.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Bucky is a douche rocket
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew it! I heard him rip Connolly on PD Podcast and then tweeted with Mirtle about it last night. Is Gleason as much of a moron as he sounds? I’d never heard of him before. Struck me as the Steve Simmons of Buffalo.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Too many stripes …
Then you start to look like this…
Montreal made the Mistake of looking like the Fruit Striped Gum Jersey last year
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They should make the thirds white jerseys with white player lettering to honor the cheap B******.
Alzner for just under 1.3?
I’d say that’s pretty good
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hopefully can be used as a comparable to bring Schenn’s cap hit dow a bit
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That’d be nice. I think Schenn should fall somewhere between Alzner and the oft-mentioned M. Staal.
M. Staal – 25:44 TOI/g, 29pts in 2010-11
K. Alzner – 20:00 TOI/g, 12pts in 2010-11
L. Schenn – 22:22 TOI/g, 22pts in 2010-11 (weird… AND he wears #2!)
Didnt realize Schenn had 22 points :) nothing wrong with that :)
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I mean he’s actually showing decent offensive upside especially considering he’s only 21. He just has the stigma of being a one-dimensional shutdown guy because he hits like a truck. But he’s going to be very serviceable at both ends of the ice.
30 points this year, book it
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s a little risky but i’d feel safe predicting 25.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
30 points with what will probably be next to no PP time? Yeah, 30 is going to be a big stretch.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll see your 30, and raise you 32.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
you’re crazy, I like that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
9 goals, 23 assists.
BOOK IT
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
with (hopefully) three lines that can put the puck in the net and consistent top 4 mins ranging from 18-22 a game I am confident Schenn can land 25 assists
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
So… 34 points?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see him scoring more than 6 goals, but you never know!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d say he realistically could score anywhere from 30-35 pts this year.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
i say 35 if he was getting PP time, but with the new additions i bet he gets next to none
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, we have too much blueline PP depth for Schenn to get any real time absent major injuries so I doubt he cracks 25 pts. Which is excellent for ES D-man points.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he can do it at ES
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
D men with 30 more ES points last year
Carle, Visnovsky, Yandle, Carlson, Rafalski, Burns, Weber.
End of list.
Christ, Drew Doughty only had 25 ES points.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
you won’t bring me down!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want people to realize how good his 22 ES points were already.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember when Bettman announced the trade between the Isles and Leafs, they cut to Luke and I imagined him thinking to himself “everything’s coming up Luke”.
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Such a good day.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
me and my three buddies
and we will come at you Brother Luke !
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and subsequently get wrecked.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently they didn’t see what happened the last time a Flyer tried to fight a Leafs defenseman.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Let the Wookie win.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently The Leafs forgot what happened the last time they went into a game 6 overtime in the playoffs against Philadelphia .. so bad.. they have never seen a post season since and the entire organization from GM on down is different.
BOOYAA !!
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and have won just as many cups as the Flyers have
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohh so that’s why so much has changed for the Leafs since the lockout. Now I get it.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the thing is.. maybe 22 points isnt great for a top defense.. what we want him to be.. but he’s only 21, and he already has one of the best defensive games in the NHL
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
one of the best defensive games in the NHL
Statistically? I dunno about that one. I’d love to see some #‘s backing this up but my hunch is that he’s not yet at that level. Not much doubt in my mind that he will get there in the next few years, but as of right now he does still get caught making mistakes he shouldn’t make from time to time.
I guess it might just be presumptuous, I was just kind of thinking how he led hits and blocked shots
Obviously there are better indicators and maybe i’ll look them up later
but you’re right, he can be more positionally sound
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
The good thing is that it’s really correctable mistakes he makes. The thing that comes to mind first is that sometimes he gets caught standing in no-man’s land watching the puck instead of bodying the guy waiting at the back door. He’s already tremendously improved his ability to patiently carry the puck and not force it up the ice when the opponent is trapping.
He’s comparable to (better than) Seabrook of 2008, who was 23 at the time.
He outperforms his expected zone shift, his shots against per 60 are lower than the Leafs as a team. In fact, his SA/60 are the second lowest among Leafs defensemen with > 30 GP. Gunnarsson’s SA/60 are the lowest but Schenn played against tougher competition.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I should add: Schenn’s ranking on the team is excluding Beauchemin and Kaberle because behindthenet.ca doesn’t list them on the Leafs page anymore.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
A lot of Leaf fans seem to feel Schenn is already this amazing, shutdown defender. He’s really not there yet. His game is still very much a work in progress.
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by birky on Jul 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Though it’s worth getting excited about, as I’d say he’s above the expected level of defensemen in his age group. There’s no one on that list I’d trade Luke for in a one-for-one.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope that’s not true.
Obviously Drew Doughty
I’d probably do it for Subban too
and It’d be a pretty even swap for John Carlson or Pietrangelo
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops, I didn’t notice Doughty was there. He’s the exception, Subban would be pretty even, but I don’t think I’d do it for Carlson or Pietrangelo.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Even by the end of the season Subban was maturing and played better D. In the playoffs he logged 36 minutes one game. He also got a hattrick in his rookie season as a D. He’s got a pretty good future ahead of him.
Carolson and Pietrangelo also can play a good two-way game. Neither is as defensively sound as Schenn, but they both may grow to be, which is why I think its a wash for either
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh sunuva, Pietrangelo was higher on his team’s QComp than Schenn. uhhh, maybe pietrangelo. But, uh, definitely not Jake Muzzin!
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is, look how few players can actually get into the NHL at that age. Only Schenn and Doughty have done it for 3 years now..
that’s fucking impressive.
Also pretty impressive that we have two guys on that list.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
His even strengths points per 60 stats are pretty good. His point totals are lower because of a lack of powerplay time.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
And to put it in perspective, a guy like Doughty (yes, he is more talented) gets a ridiculous number of offensive zone starts and plays on a better team.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I still don’t think he’s got much offensive upside. I think he maxes out around 25 points with maybe two or three seasons of 30 mixed in. He’s just not mobile enough and his puck skills, frankly, stink.
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Well, not really. He regularly stickhandles around attacking players in the defensive zone. His ESP/60 is equal to that of Brent Seabrook when he was 23.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t stickhandle around opposing players. The only thing Schenn has done a better job of is defending the puck with his body. I saw major improvement in that area last year. But his actually stickhandling needs work, and most importantly, his skating.
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Stickhandling probably wasn’t the right word. My bad.
But what he does is still a big part of puck skills. That’s one of the ways Crosby is able to so effectively control the puck along the boards – body positioning: getting his body in between opposing players and the puck.
I do hope his skating improves because that will really help take his game to the level we all hope he reaches.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
You think even though he’s already put up 22 points on bad leafs teams at the age of 21 he will max out at 25 points?
thats 3 more assists over a year…
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Not all players progress exponentially. I think Schenn was able to step into the NHL at 18 because of his physical maturity, he likes rough play, and he understands angles. He has average straight ahead speed, but his acceleration is not good. His stickhandling needs work and I don’t know if his shot will ever be all that great either. Schenn’s greatest gift is his ability to see and think the game, but the flaws in his fundamentals will hold him back from becoming a true top pairing, 2 way defenseman.
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The biggest problem with his shot is that he telegraphs it like crazy. Guys know exactly when and where he’s going to shoot so it’s easy to block.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, his release is not so great, but that can be worked on
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m willing to bet that Schenn works tirelessly on his shortcomings. Like you, I’m anticipating a big season for him in 2011-2012.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The point is, even if he doesn’t work tirelessly, barring a major injury he has 15 years to work on these things. I find it seriously hard to believe he can’t improve by 4 points, especially considering his point totals are pretty modest right now
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
This is your Daily CC reminder.
Please come and talk, I mean it’s Friday, you guys can’t talk about hockey ALL day right?
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3 out fo those 5 topics are from me! so you know they’re of quality.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
For those of you that haven’t, go check out Killer Sundin’s Fanpost on being a gay Leafs fan. One of the best things I’ve read in a while, thanks Chemmy and everyone here for setting an example to SBNation and the sports world on being tolerant and creating a safe environment for everybody.
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/7/14/2276139/what-being-a-gay-leaf-fan-means-to-me
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
More like PPP is selectively tolerant on issues that general population feels in Politically Correct or popular is more like it.
if your to be tolerant. then the person who writes a fanpost on the opposite side would be accepted as well.
BUT I do agree with you on the point that it was a good read…. a good fanpost.
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you are the king of backhanded compliments.
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Gee thanks …… I guess.
wait is that one there too ?
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no, more of an observation really
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Cool …
I actually prefer the Compliment Sandwich when I am Coaching or Training someone ..
thats when you open with a compliment or a positive….
put in the Constructive Criticism in the Middle…
and Close with a compliment or something positive.
and you can do it with anyone …
here I will show you..
Brent Lebda ..
Brent you have risen to the top of all Hockey League status by playing in the NHL and not many players can ever really say that they have ever done that…
However you stunk worse than hot garbage on a 99 Degree Fahrenheit Humid summer day during your tenure with the Maple Leafs.
And now your Getting a fresh Chance in Nashville and going to revitalize your career and have the ability to prove that you truly belong in the NHL.
any viewpoints brent ?
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in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, the Toronto Maple Leafs are proud to select:
D – Brent Lebda
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by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve always known it as a “Shit Sandwich”.
by 9 Dollar Beer on Jul 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
what the hell?
you are either fishing for a debate or really have no idea what you are on about, I recommend you stop now
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
who made you ruler of the world to tell me what to do and what I am doing.
First of all.. Not fishing for nothing… Just stating what I feel.
second .. dont tell me what to do .. your not my mommy or daddy or wife.
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so why’d you get banned from broad street hockey again?
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liking another team’s goalie I think. Not related.
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
oh come on, had to be more than that.
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if your not part of the Cool Club Clique .. your never accepted there. period.. I was never accepted for my diverse opinions on players.
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but your diverse opinion on your and you’re?
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your and you’re ? … I am sorry .. I don’t understand what your saying as this is an incomplete sentence and the message was never expressed well enough to get the point across.
would you mind clarifying for me please exactly what you meant by your last comment ?
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no.
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hehe
your diverse opinion on when your and you’re should be used.
you use your all the time when it should be you’re.
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your and you’re are too different.
You are is you’re .. meaning that you are something..
your means possession of something.
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if your not part of the Cool Club Clique .. your never accepted there. period
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don’t spell check the internet. it’ll take way too long
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ahhhh .. I should have stated…
If you are or you’re …
If you’re not part of the Cool Club Clique.. your never accepted there. period..
ahhhh gotcha.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Ok .. but now you know.. and .. this has been the 2nd or 3rd time you have asked that.. so now you know.. so .. I should not expect you to ask that comment again .. correct ?
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Still not fixed...
If you’re not part of the Cool Club Clique.. your never accepted there.
You can do this
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I am telling you that you are doing exactly what you said you never do
bring up your religious beliefs as an issue when no one else here cares what you believe
now if you wish to present your religious anti-gay beliefs that are insanely intolerant than you can expect an intolerant response.
being pro gay puts no one down and promotes equality for all mankind
if you are threatened by that then it is your problem, and if you cant deal with equality then you can kindly get the fuck out
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
A little harsh in the delivery but you have the exact right idea.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
the niceties on this topic have worn thin. I am sick of handling it with kid gloves
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. This is getting ridiculous.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Jul 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
did anywhere in that comment state anything religious ? no…. your drawing that conclusion.
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oh come on now, we all know what you meant, we all know where your view points come from. pretending otherwise is stupid
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Religion is a choice, being gay is not.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
if you can make a reasonalbe non judgemental argument about why someone should be treated differently based upon their preferred partner then go ahead, i would love to read a rational, reasonable argument why someone can’t enjoy equal rights.
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You’d love it because, simultaneously, you would be able to look up and see pigs while flying. Wouldn’t that be adorable! Furthermore, the coolness from below, due to hell having frozen over, would be very refreshing.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to open up a can of worms here, and I implore other to leave this comment alone....
But….
if your to be tolerant. then the person who writes a fanpost on the opposite side would be accepted as well.In this case, such an opposing viewpoint would be one of intolerance (for whatever reasons the author may have be they personal, moral, or religious), but intolerant none the less, and as such would not be welcomed on pensionplanpuppets.com.
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s the thing. No one here is advocating homosexuals at the expense of any other group. Advocating one’s beliefs at the expense of another group is a diferent thing altogether I would say. No one else has to be marginalized in order for homosexuals to be treated equally and with respect.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
And sorry, i totally ignored your title disclaimer. I just happened to think it was a good point.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone else said this yesterday (or 2 days ago).
We don’t tolerate rascist perspectives, so why should we tolerate homophobic (or anti-gay if you feel the word homophobic is not entirely appropriate) perspectives?
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your all missing the point.. I never meant homophobic.. but .. thats ok.. moving on
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uh….you said “fan post on the opposite” the opposite of pro-gay is anti gay, which is homophobic
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
anti gay and homophobic are two different things.
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no they are not
thats like saying anti -black and racism are two different things
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
actually yes they are. …
Homophobic.. means fear and hatred of gays.
Homophobic.. means fear and hatred of gays.Anti Gay .. means do not agree or approve of gay acts or lifestyle but no hatred.
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I kid you not
I met a couple of lesbians who chose not to be lesbian after they met me.
by Jack rides ducks on Jul 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this supposed to be funny?
Not trying to antagonize anyone, just seriously curious
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
considering there is no special term for “intolerant and disproving” of the homosexual life style then it does double duty
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Its the colloquial term means anything anti-gay.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
“Not approving” means contempt. Contempt is just hate by another word.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
FLYERROB, this has been a common misconception in the discussion over the past couple days. You can find several definitions of the word “homophobic” at this google link. The top three I’ve included below:
prejudiced against homosexual people
-Princeton.edu
(homophobe) a person who hates or fears homosexual people
-Princeton.edu
Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer, and in some cases transgender and intersex people.
-Wikipedia
As you can see, even though “phobia” is in the word, homophobia is not strictly related to fear or unknowing. It’s simply a matter of prejudice. The above post of yours which I’ve replied to is factually incorrect.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well I am not either .. I dont hate.
since you asked. My viewpoint is this. I dont “HATE” gays, lesbians, transvestites, or Bisexual people.
My viewpoint based on my religious beliefs is that I love all people but I do not love the sin.
But that is my viewpoint and I am merely stating that so that I do not get any more people stating that I am a “HATER” because I am not.
When your child does something that you do not approve of and you correct that or remind them that its not approved of .. does that mean you hate your child ? no. So I am not a hater.
What I was getting at above was that in society today its “politically correct” to be gay.. but “unpopular” to be Christian.. and when people shower love and affection on gay people because its PC or popular but discriminating against Christians .. isn’t that bieng Biased and Discriminating? Christians are taught to love one another.. when did that become not popular or “UNP.C.” ?
While I know what the definitions are on line .. I know myself who I am and how I feel. .. and no one can take that away from me about my feelings in my heart.
so I hope this answers your question Bower Power.. Thats my viewpoint. Back to hockey.
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Didn’t ask the viewpoint, didn’t really want to continue the discussion in this thread. I really didn’t have any questions in my post at all. I just wanted to let you know that when you said “actually, yes they are” the correct response would have been “jared, you’re right. they aren’t different.” Quite frankly, you aren’t allowed to change a word’s definition just because feelings in your heart tell you. If you are anti-gay, you are homophobic. Even if you’re not strictly afraid of homosexuals. When it comes to being opposed to equality based on personal beliefs, I would hope “those feelings” in your heart are mostly guilt.
Acceptance surrounding homosexuality has nothing to do with “political correctness,” except in the fact that promoting equality is always correct – it’s a founding tenant of the USA, though historically not a well-followed one.
In response to the last bit, I think someone posted this graphic here previously:
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being Christian. It’s certainly not “unpopular,” as it’s the dominant religion in America by a long shot. There’s something wrong when someone’s religion allows them to justify being opposed to equality, then for them to run away saying “I’m free to say whatever I want! This is Americaaaaa!” Or even worse, saying “I love everyone, but those gays really shouldn’t have equal rights.”
I know and understand that you’d like to have your viewpoint represented as some sort of “last word on the issue.” If you’d like to keep talking about it or respond to this post in any way, feel free to use my e-mail address, which you can find on my profile page.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
again … I dont hate.. and you cannot say how I feel in my heart.
if you feel oppressed.. sorry you feel that way.. I have never oppressed you and forced you to conform or approve of my beliefs. I never force anyone to conform to my beliefs. But I will not allow people to HATE on me based on my own beliefs just like Killer Sundin will not allow anyone to HATE on him based on his beliefs.
so .. please do not hate on me for being a Christian.. and I promise .. I wont oppress you with my beliefs.
op·pres·sion/əˈpreSHən/Noun
1. Prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
2. The state of being subject to such treatment or control.
This will be easy for me as I have never done any cruel or unjust treatment or subject anyone to any control. .. merely stated my viewpoints.
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yyyyeah, you didn’t read my post at all. By the way, I can’t believe you forgot Grabovski was Belarussian over at Puck Worlds.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG he is ? … I thought he was just Russian ! .. SWEET ! We actually have a Belarusian (Is that correct?) Player in the NHL !
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Isn’t Ruslan Salei Belarussian too? Is he still even around?
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
wow …
ok I just got SCHOOLED big time on who is Belarusian and who is not.
I guess I was Ignorant to it.
ok .. Why aren’t they outspoken about being Belarusian like Jagr is outspoken about being Czech .. you all know why Jagr wears 68 right ? 1968 was the Prague of Spring which was an Invasion by the Warsaw Pact Countries.
SORRY !
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Technically they’re both Russian and Belarussian because when they were born Belarus was still part of the USSR.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Technically they’d be both Soviet and Belarussian then, no?
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There’s a Russian law that states all former soviet citizens have Russian citizenship by default.
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I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
oh ok I didn’t know that.
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There’s a Russian law
You kinda lost me there
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re pretty ignorant to lots of things
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah (Also, you’re right – the spelling is with 1 s in Belarusian, not two as I had above). And like elseldo mentioned, the Kostitsyns are from Belarus as well.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you even reading the responses?
No one is hating you.. people are telling you not to hate others. If you say you don’t hate others, people will believe you. But when you say people don’t deserve to have rights then that is a form of hate.
It doesn’t matter what guise you put it under, it’s still hate. I’m a strong Christian myself, but God teaches to love, not to hate. If you disagree with it then keep it to yourself, don’t damn people. It’s God’s place to judge.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and it’s one of the dad’s place to delete threads.
if you can delete pineapples you can end this as well!
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by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard he’s planning a coup to regain his head of the household status
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe we should post some pineapple gifs to get his attention
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He hates the pine’d apple almost as much as a Belorussian I know
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont hate all. I am all for loving and rights.
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you clearly are not if you dont think that gays should get married
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This much seems obvious.
Look I know this isn’t the right forum for this conversation but we have taken a stance as a community and have heard from some LBGT that have been inspired by that stance. I don’t want to drag this out but I feel compelled to respond to anything that goes against that.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think its necessarilly the wrong forum. I mean if PPP and Chemmy say they don’t want it here, obviously we should oblige, but its a relevant issue.
Its not the type of thing we should be taking sides and debating over, but as a community we’re taking a stance against AM640 and Bill Watters, so if we can’t discuss the situation among ourselves, how can we demerit them?
Well then you should retract this comment:
if your to be tolerant. then the person who writes a fanpost on the opposite side would be accepted as well.
Use your head.. if this fanpost is to give gay people rights, then the opposite is to take them away
no opposite viewpoint .. meaning the Christian view on Homosexuality. ….
But I can see how you took it out of context.. maybe I should have worded it better.
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I know many many Christians that are all for gay marriage and think that it is not a sin and that god made them that way
Don’t lump all Christians into that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Religion is fine for basic principles but if you’re using it for granular details it’s impossible to avoid hypocrisy. Parts of the Bible endorse slavery… and I’m pretty sure many Christian sects condemn divorce. FLYERROB is (IIRC) divorced, and pretty confident he’s anti-slavery.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you for clarifying. I am for whats in the Bible. if its in the Bible .. I agree with it. if its not in the Bible .. I am not for it. GOD gave Moses the Writ of Divorce while they were lost for 40 years in the desert because of allot of infidelity.
Yes I am against slavery. Parts of the Bible mention pro slavery and parts of the Bible mention anti slavery.
and finally YES.. it is impossible to avoid Hypocrisy.
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give me an afternoon and I am sure I can find something in the bible that can be interpreted as pro gay
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
YES.. it is impossible to avoid Hypocrisy.
This is why I think we should all stick to “love thy neighbour”, “do unto others” etc. and then figure out the details ourselves based on those principles.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree … Love thy neighbor.. some make it harder for us to love them .. especially when they are trolling you based on your beliefs as a Christian… but yes .. Love thy neighbor.
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stop playing the victim
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Love thy neighbour but refuse to grant them basic human rights.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is trolling you. Some people (including me) honestly disagree that one’s sexuality is relevant to anything other than who you choose to get your jollies with. You can say whatever you want but I can say I find it misguided, wrong-headed and even hypocritical.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m getting tired of this little game Rob.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR DAYS TO USE THIS!
So you believe in:
Leviticus 15:19
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whoever touches her shall be unclean until the even.
(ladies during their “time of the month” shuld be shunned)
leviticus 19:27
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
(don’t trim the hair on your temples or trim your beard)
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Since you asked..
Yes When my wife is on her cycle I do not engage in intercourse.
No I am in the Military and I am not allowed to grow a beard and I CANNOT PHYSICALLY grow a beard either .. I look like Briere during the Playoffs if I try to grow anything. Yuck !
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do you kiss and hug her then? do you hold her hand? cuddle on the couch?
well if you do then you are going against the words of the bible as they are written
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You just wanted to ride
Off my West Wing quote’s coattails didn’t you?
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can’t use these as example. These are sacrificial and ritualistic Laws regarding ritual purity under the scrificial system which is obsolete under the New Covenant.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
by Jack rides ducks on Jul 15, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
if you can acknowledge that the bible at times can be hypocritical, then you can admit that it has its flaws and everything is not gods perfect word
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
“At times” is an extreme understatement.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Y’ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we’re not supposed to go to the bathroom.
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” – Matthew: 7:1-5
The problem is that most believers have never actually read the bible. They just hear the parts that their priest/pastor/whatever tells them.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Beliefs are not truths and therefore have no relevance. Just because the tooth fairy says that gay people are sinning doesn’t mean they are.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Did the tooth fairy really say that? I’m going to have to rethink this whole thing.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to know what the Flying Spaghetti Monster says about all this.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of ol' rubberband hip, I really hope he grows this hair back!
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Between that mop and MacArthur’s, we could get a Fro line going.
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I like to think of it more as a prophecy…
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
draft year… Though admittedly still an insult to hockey.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Hey, did that poor guy that had to go to Wilf Paiement’s house make it back alive?
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
(Not asking you specifically, bad wording, also stupid question)
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It would finally be an opinion that matters.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Occam's razor'd
Just because the tooth fairy says that gay people are sinning doesn’t meanthey arethere’s such a thing as sin.
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Thank you for correcting that. Silly mistake on my part.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but he balances it by being pro-pedophile.
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by GreatKingRat on Jul 15, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"it's a founding tenant of the USA"
Does it pay rent, like the Mexican border?
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by GreatKingRat on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and when people shower love and affection on gay people because its PC or popular but discriminating against Christians
It’s called treating being with dignity and accepting who they are and does not discriminate in the slightest. We don’t do it because it’s PC or popular, we do it because it’s the right thing to do.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah next thing you’ll say integrating schools wasn’t done due to political correctness back in the 50’s.
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This subthread was meant to be about a definition, not re-ignite the whole issue. Don’t worry about responding to flyerrob’s above comment.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
well .. wouldnt it be right to respect me for my beliefs ?
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You never have to respect someones beliefs. I absolutely do not respect people who are homophobic. If you fall into that category, I absolutely don’t respect you. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to disrespect you. You don’t have to respect people but you don’t have condemn them either.
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well I am not Homophobic. I love everyone as a person and a child of GOD. I dont approve of the act ~ its a seperate issue. If I ever had a son & he would be gay, I would still love him, just not approve of his choice in sexuality.
Now you may not agree with me on that but thats ok .. I respect that you dont agree.. and I do not disrespect you as you stated. please reciprocate.
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did you choose to be straight and like women?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of straights
"The Passion Continues..."
by WendelMadeMe on Jul 15, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry Rob
But I, or any other gay and lesbian people never chose to be gay. It’s who we are and we should have every right to marry whoever we wish to marry. After all, we are human right? Besides, i’d rather be who I am than a straight version of me (no offense to straight men)
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by Killer Sundin on Jul 15, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
You’re the man, I hope you never leave. Ever.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t intend to. I’m normally a shy person and never really posted here a whole lot. But after the Watters situation, I felt like I had to get some stuff out in the open. Now I’m here for good. Took me awhile
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by Killer Sundin on Jul 15, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t even close your browser if you can help it :P
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I’m not that awesome!
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by Killer Sundin on Jul 15, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll be the judge of that, thank you very much.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I guess I will have to leave that judgement in your capable hands
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by Killer Sundin on Jul 15, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, we’ve all got pretty capable hands.
Except PPP, he’s got hands like Shrek
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I applaud you
For this.
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If those were beliefs I found to be respectable. I’m not advocating moral relativism here. There is a right and wrong.
As Ben said below, I don’t hate you, or want to oppress you. I’m allowed to say that I feel your beliefs are misguided and wrong. We can disagree but in the end one of us is right.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
and in the end one of us is right
correct .. and my conscience is clear when it comes to the end and judgement day.
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What does Terminator 2 have to do with any of this?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
FYI sociopaths have a clear conscience too, doesn’t mean any crime they commit is just by god
and no I am not calling you a sociopath, just giving perspective
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And with that, the conversation has ended……..or been ported over to the CC. Your call, but pick 1 of the 2.
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KEEP IT OUT OF THE CC
the CC is a friendly, fun place.
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it’s got unicorns and ananas
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by thenumber14 on Jul 15, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
and Justin Bieber >.>
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we’re talking about muppets now
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oh I’m sorry, I was busy making the Leafs win the Cup :P
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I was jsut adding to the list of topics.
don’t you judge my choice of wording!
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hahhahhaa..
hahhahhaa.. ohhh good one.
hahhahhaa.. ohhh good one.No I was merely being sarcastic .. just like you are right now.
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o.O Reply fail?
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This is true. Homophobic is a fear and hatred of gays. Anti-gay doesn’t mean you hate them, you just don’t want them to have equal rights and privileges as those you consider “normal”.
Is that sarcastic? What reason would there to be to deny someone basic human rights other than hate?
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
fear
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean i disapprove of hipsters and thier lifestyle, but i wouldn’t want them to be banned from getting married and living their life openly.
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by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I had it on vinyl, like, 3 years ago,
by 9 Dollar Beer on Jul 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I had it 4 years ago…
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
better than requesting songs the radio plays 3x an hour anyways
i fucking hate when people do that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
YOU GUYS REQUESTED IT SO HERE IT IS AGAIN!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Its called an iPod and using repeat if you like a song so much
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
LOLZ BUT IM WITH MY FRIENDS PARTAAAYING IT UP ON A SCHOOL NITE LOLZ MOAR KATY PERRY!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH WE TAKE BATHROOM PICKUREZX TO SHOW HOW MUCH FUN WE HAVE
by Ben Schnell on Jul 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like asking a hipster what they are wearing and then saying "gee thanks, I’m helping design a new line of clothes for insert big name store here and your outfit would be great. Just think in a year everyone will be wearing that.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a really funny Happy Endings episode about hipsters.
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Good show.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they do, it’s soo ironic.
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Love the Hipster
C’mon. Half the people on here would probably be considered some variant of hipster by the other half (who cared, anyway).
But then, maybe I think about this topic way too much.
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by Berezin's Spleen on Jul 15, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry if that seemed like it was a hostile comment. It’s hard to tell on the internet if someone is being sarcastic.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I used the sarcasm font.
Put an @ symbol before and after your text to achieve sarcastic glory.
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why should i
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe it is cynicism.
There just are those that I have met and talked to who say they don’t hate homosexuals but don’t want them held in the same breath. They don’t want to accept it is natural and feel the problem can and should be corrected rather than accepted. It holds a cold rationality to it that I would say separates it every so slightly from hate and fear.
I think they’re just in denial about their hate/fear. It allows them to justify their stupidity within the confines of “Love thy neighbour”.
by stevesmith19 on Jul 15, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep… If you meant that you wanted to right a fanpost about how tough it is to be an Irish catholic from boston who loves the habs, that would be accepted (though ridiculed for being a habs fan)
by WizardofNaz on Jul 15, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just gonna back away..
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks .. Me too...
since you have 6 players that are 4th liners.. and a few will be in the AHL.. a few will be on the Leafs.. who will be released after camp ?
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if you are going to back away, back away, and stop commenting on it. getting in the last word is not backing away
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
who will be released after camp i asked ?
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yeah.. Thats what I asked… Who will be released.. I like the above article about stockpiled on 4th liners .. but you always here how a player gets cut in September after camp ..
yeah.. Thats what I asked… Who will be released.. I like the above article about stockpiled on 4th liners .. but you always here how a player gets cut in September after camp ..so who will be released after camp.
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hear
spellchecker is a great feature
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I don’t understand why people play spelling/grammar nazi online.
Fixed.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jul 15, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s take a relaxed attitude toward work, and watch the baseball match. The NY Mets are my favorite squadron!
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by SkinnyFish on Jul 15, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
NY METS ? ! oh wow .. i am so sorry for you SkinnyFish….
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Not a Simpsons fan? I feel sorry for your FLYERROB…
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What the fuck. I was just giving this guy some credit for his courage and stuff and this whole thread spouts off of it? Can you please ban FLYERROB it’s really pissing me off at this point
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
hockey hockey hockey!
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by elseldo on Jul 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Like he’s skating on it or he’s got a bag of it on his head?
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by Shield on Jul 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
too-soon-rec’d.
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But is he taking hits? Until he starts playing contact it doesn’t mean much
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah obviously, but he was skating a while back if IIRC. If I’m right and he was, then this isn’t that important
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he was but had to stop all activity because his concussion symptoms came back…. or something like that.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
mhm. This is his first time back since restarting the recovery.
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also that setback was rumoured to be sinus-related
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so is Charlie Sheen.
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by Chuck Diesel on Jul 15, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This is your brain on this thread..
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
God bless Charlie Scheen for giving us Navy SEALS and Hot Shots part 1 and Deux.
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& Men at work
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
and Platoon
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hockey Question
Who do you guys rank as the top 10 goalies in the league right now? I don’t mean who has the best all time record or anything.. I mean who would you have right now, and feel most comfortable with? I try to make these lists all the time but I have a hard time factoring everyone in, so I’d like to see some opinions. Mine would go something like this:
1. Henrik Lunqvist
2. Tim Thomas
3. Pekka Rinne
4. Roberto Luongo
5. Jonas Hiller
6. Carey Price
7. Jonathon Quick
8. Cam Ward
9. Ilya Bryzgalov
10. Marc-Andre Fleury
and do current contracts come into play?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So they’re friends goalies with benefits?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this for one game, one season, or are we starting a new team and get to pick which goalie to take for a few years (assuming the don’t want to leave / retire)?
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think like 2-3 years. Who is the best right now? Sure, Thomas just put the best stats ever, but he might not keep it up next year, and as he gets older. This question is:
who do you want as your goalie to take you to the playoffs/cup right now?
Don’t think about prospects and the like
if the Leafs 3 year window started this year, and I had my pick, i take Rinne
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I take Price second though
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Lundy and Miller are still only 29 and 31 respectively so I couldn’t use the age thing against them…
Yeah, but if I was gonna build a dynasty, I’d take Rinne or Price.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking either Rinne or Lunqvist
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the ol’ Thomas train has to be slowing down soon right? RIGHT?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i say that every year and every year I am wrong.
just like I say that Marty Brodeur is due to slow down for the last 7 years and I think I am finally right on that one.
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same here, but Timmy seems to be some kind of mythical creature.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ok.. is it me .. or does anyone else feel that King Henry has done mediocre in the post season. .. Heck .. I think Brian Boucher’s numbers are better than King Henry’s … but I am guessing at that.
ok.. is it me .. or does anyone else feel that King Henry has done mediocre in the post season. .. Heck .. I think Brian Boucher’s numbers are better than King Henry’s … but I am guessing at that.sometimes the namehype supersedes the talent ~ I.E. Luongo
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I think he’s over played in the regular season, much like Brodeur has the past few years.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If we’re looking for a 3 year window, I’d take Lundqvist. Then probably Rinne or Hiller, if I can get a guarantee he’s vertigo-free.
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How dare you put MAF on this list instead of Miller.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
shit see this is what always happens
I totally forgot about Miller
there are too many fucking goalies
Time to thin the herd like we did to the Irish in nineteen odd six
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Lundqvist
Luongo
Thomas
Hiller (sans vertigo)
Ward
Price
Rinne
Pavelec
Bryzgalov
Quick
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At a younger age, Quick and Miller are nearly identical stats wise. Miler had that one .929 season two years ago, but aside from that he’s been a .915 goaltender; same as Quick. So I give Quick the edge based on youth, and based on having both eyes at the same level.
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Absolutely
Last 5 seasons
.920
.919
.926
.925
.922
That’s insane. For comparison, these are Lunqvist’s:
.917
.912
.916
.921
.923
I only put him 5 due to age.
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Honestly, if Vokoun were on a major market team, he’d be hailed as the best goaltender in the game. I’m excited to watch him in Florida, and wouldn’t hate seeing him win a cup. It’s been years since he posted anything close to league average.
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1 James Reimer
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Needs more bias.
Miller
Lundqvist
Rinne
Luongo
Thomas
Vokoun
Hiller
Bryzgalov
Price
Hasek
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Who are the 5 best centres of all time?
Bozak, Bozak, Bozak, Bozak, and Bozak
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by CoolJ90 on Jul 15, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bozakly.
Follow someone else on Twitter.
by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
BFT
’bout fucking time you got here with some good sense.
These people talking up above need something adjusted.
Wow.
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by not norm ullman on Jul 15, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ok I would put Bryzgalov
above Rinne,
above Price,
above Quick,
above Lundqvist,
and above Hiller
Maybe Ward, .. too .. but Ward has a SC to his Resume.
I think you have Bryz waaaayyy too low.
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yeah I knew someone would say that ….. and yes I am being Unbiased .. I wish my Friend form Lake Simcoe was on here .. I have always been a fan of Bryzgalov .. I used to say allot …
Breezy and the Yotes.
now I say ..
Breezy and the Fly boys.
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Thanks for playing
and yes I am being Unbiased
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a friend from Lake Simcoe?
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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yes I do.. he is an OPP
why are you shocked that I actually have friends
are you like OMG ! Friends ! hahahahaha…
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Haha no, not surprised you have a friend. I can see Lake Simcoe from the office I’m currently working in. So more than anything, I think that’s cool.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you perhaps know a guy from Philly named Robert?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
’Fraid not. Well, not outside this blog.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Stoner .. OPP ..
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Clayton Stoner’s brother?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no .. I am serious .. Bryz was a starter on a barely above average phoenix team.. if you put Bryz on Vancouver or Boston or San Jose or Tampa Bay or .. Surprise .. Philadelphia.. and he is purely a top ten if not top 5 goalie.
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uh, all of those teams had goaltending better or very similar to what Bryz has pulled off in the post season yet, so he probably would have made them worse or not made a difference
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, hard to beat the current vezina winning goalie.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a big Bryzgalov fan, Rob. Really – I watched a handful of Phoenix games last year, love his positioning, love his decision making, and am excited that he’ll get a lot more press coverage. But Phoenix is not a “barely above average” team in their own zone – their defensive play is how they won games. And Bryzgalov’s 2.5 out of 4 good years (his opening numbers on Anaheim the year he was traded were a measly .909) do not trump the abilities or expected abilities of Price, Rinne, or Hiller, and certainly not Lundqvist.
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I am not a big fan of Lundqvist … I think he has come up very short in the Post Season..
and the people who will all tell me that Bryz has come up short begin your bashing in …
3.
2.
1.
and go !!!!
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It’s not bashing, but you can’t say Bryz is amazing even though he’s been pretty mediocre in the playoffs, and then go on to say Lundqvist is bad because he’s not spectacular in the playoffs either. It’s logic.
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Lundvqist has a career post season average of .915 if you discount his rookie year (13 GA in 3 GP), including a .917 last year, with .908, .909, and .924 the years before. Two years are great, two are slightly below average. To hell with whatever Bryzgalov put up, you’re straight up wrong on the Lundqvist comment.
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a comment or opinion is never wrong. Thats like saying … in my opinion, chocolate is better than vanilla and you say.. your wrong.
Now if I said … Lundqvist is better or worse than Bryzgalov because…… and my facts were wrong.. then thats wrong.
an Opinion or comment is never wrong.
a point or a fact can be right or wrong.
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Nope. If you say “it’s my opinion that the sky is green,” it just means that you hold a dumb – and wrong – opinion. This whole idea that everyone’s opinion is equal and valuable is stupid, and coddles terrible ideas. An opinion or comment can absolutely be wrong, if it’s informed by faulty information or reached by faulty logic. I hate when someone says “Well that’s just my opinion.” They’re just trying to admit defeat without admitting defeat, and they should man up and just say they were mistaken. It’d do a world of good for everyone.
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Slightly different, but since I’ve waded into nuance already: In that case, it’s their perception that the sky is green (or their observation? I dunno which would be more accurate), but it’s not their opinion.
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~
Unless you have been punched in the head wayyyy to many times… I dunno if its wrong or right.
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Have you ever been punched in the head?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Like a lot of times… And with a fair bit of force
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we both know the answer to this.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So by your logic, Hitler had the right idea?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaand that’s Godwin’s Law, folks. We’re done here.
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by Bower Power on Jul 15, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, we should stop before FLYERROB says something stu- wait…
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ok…..
I am not a punching bag…..
so please….
dont call me stupid
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no one called you stupid, they implied you said stupid things.
just because you say stupid things does not mean you are stupid
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jared.. I am asking you nicely… please stop trolling me and looking to debate argue and fight with me on every little thing.. please stop trolling me.
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no one called you stupid, they implied you said stupid things.
Pointing this out is not “trolling.”
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what the hell are you on about? where in that comment did I troll you at all? I simply clarified the statement
you can interpret that how ever you want.
If you think I am trolling you and singling you out then you are wrong.
you can go back to the others who spoke out in the way you did and find my very similar responses to them.
I am sick of you playing the victim, if you don’t like the backlash then stop speaking on certain topics. this is what debate is all about, just because you don’t like the points people use doesn’t mean you can cop
if you can’t handle fair debate like a grown up then maybe this isnt the forum for you
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
*cop out
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never heard you say anything positive at all towards any single compliment that I have ever made, and out of nowhere you swoop in when I leave a compliment with someone to debate and argue and try to “Prove” me wrong all the time.
If thats not trolling.. I dont know what it is.
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just because you sugar coat your debate with a nice compliment does not prevent someone from debating you. and just because someone does not say “have a nice day!” at the end of criticizing your argument does not mean they are being mean.
if you need positive reinforcement that much then there is something deeper at work here
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 16, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Jared… again.. You never agree or Compliment a single thing I ever say. You sure are quick to criticize, tear down, debase or debunk anything I ever say. Even if its not directed towards you.
Its quite flattering that you keep tabs on all my comments and appear rather quickly to reply to majority of them because I know that I am not that important to have someone keep up on me to criticize me all the time but it appears thats what your doing.
Have a nice day
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He replied to your comment in 2.5 hours. You replied to his comment in 5 minutes, who’s replying quickly again?
Also, to the majority of people (not just Jared) things that you say deserve to be ridiculed. Case in point: I don’t care if you say you’re not being biased, you are out to lunch if you think Bryzgalov is better than Rinne, Lundqvist, Price and Hiller
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thats why we have Vanilla Chocolate and Strawberry my friend. Everyone has different likes and dislikes. .. Personally I like Bryzgalov above those other goalies. …
I would chose Hiller or Varly next
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You’re allowed to say you like Bryz better than those other goalies. That’s an opinion. You could even say you’d rather have him on your team. Although I don’t know why you would want an inferior goalie but you could say that.
But the reason you like Bryz better is because he is a member of the Flyers and thus have an emotional investment in his performance and abilities.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jul 16, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Gee thanks for telling me that I am allowed to like a player.
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I don’t call my punching bag at home stupid, I call it Carkner.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Killer Sundin on Jul 16, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks to Hitler.. we have the International Highway.
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You mean the Autobahn…? That runs strictly within Germany?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No seriously ~ read your history of the war. He invented the Highway to get the supplies from Germany to the front lines (France & Poland).
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What? No, they used trains to do that… They were built with no intention of military use and hardly used them for military stuff either
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by happiergilmore on Jul 16, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
and I quote…
The following are six good achievements made by the Third Reich that radically set the stage for future advancement in many particular fields, sciences, and social norms.
1.) No smoking! Hitler was vehemently anti-smoking. The Nazi’s were also the first to link smoking to the contraction of cancer. Source.
2.) The Hitler Mobile? Hitler wanted every German, whether rich or poor, to have a car. And thus he invented the Volkswagen ("People’s Car"). Source.
3.) Spare some change? Before coming into power in 1933, mass unemployment crippled the German economy. The global depression of that era made it so that a wheelbarrow full of money couldn’t even buy a loaf of bread. When the Nazis stormed on to the scene, they put everyone back to work. Over night, the wheels of the economy were turning once more and money was flowing back into people’s pockets. Source.
4.) It’s his way or the highway! Every time you hop on to the freeway to get somewhere faster than taking all the back roads, thank Hitler. That’s right, Hitler invented the highway system ("Autobahn" in German). Source.
5.) This little light of mine… I’m gunna let it shine! The Olympic torch relay ceremony was Hitler’s idea for the 1936 Berlin Olympic games. We haven’t since gotten rid of the ceremony. Source.
6.) Save the whales! Hitler and many top Nazis were environmentalist types who cared deeply about animals and their rights. The Nazis were among the first to put in place laws protecting animals from abuse. Source.
Aside from the above examples are many countless others wherein Hitler used his extraordinary power as dictator to push both good and evil policies. Again, it’s important to realize the "yin yang" concept as alluded to prior when attempting to make sense of such information concerning the person and achievements of Adolf Hitler.
By Grant J. Kidney July 12th 2011
http://grantjkidney.com/6-good-things-hitler-did/
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You're both right
The bulk of the German Army of World War II was largely supplied by wagon trains
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/reichs.cfm
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exactly
no one can deny German innovation of the era.
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 16, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Save the whales
Nazi Germany had whaling ships in Antarctica. You can’t believe everything you read on the interwebs.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 16, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
joemshmoe.com eh? I’ve written a few essays sourcing him…
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by happiergilmore on Jul 17, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to think about this myself.
1. Lundqvist
2. Thomas
3. Luongo
4. Hiller
5. Vokoun
6. Rinne
7. Bryzgalov
8. Price
9. Backstrom
10. Ward
11. Miller
12. Fleury
13. Quick
14. Neuvirth
15. Pavelec
I’m a huge Rinne and Bryzgalov fan. It’s tough when we say “right now,” though. My list changes a ton if you start accounting for age and projected expectations 3-5 years out (Price shoots up the list, as do Quick, Neuvirth Pavelec, and Crawford, Thomas drops off it, Luongo plummets, etc.). This is a tough list to make, and if I did it again ten minutes from now, I’d probably get a different list again.
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I’d like to swap Vokoun to #3 and Luongo to #5. Putting up a .913 last year was killer, even if he bounced back.
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Scrolling to the bottom of that list makes me want to chew off my own foot.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
With the exception of how low Lundqvist is, that looks a lot like my list, and reinforces the idea that Vokoun shouldn’t be as low as 5th. I’ve probably underrated Miller and Price, but screw them (this is why I don’t try to do what The Goalie Guild does).
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What the hell are “Goalie point shares”? Whatever they are, they put Luongo in first so they must be pretty great and totally relevant
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Pretty sure its the percent of average points that can be directly related to the goalie. So if you take Schneider’s 24 games or whatever and the rest of Luongo’s, and Schneider goes 16-8, he would have 32 points. Buf if Vancouver gets 128 points one year or something, then that’s only a 25% points share. That means Luongo has the other 75%, going 48-10
Hockey question II
Okay so on the other side, who would you take as a franchise goalie for the next 10+ years?
Names off the top of my head include: Reimer, Holtby, Neurvth, Varlarmov, Pavelec, Bernier, Schneider, Rask,
and any other goalie who’s young enough from the ove lists. here is mine:
1. Price
2. Quick
3. Rask
4. Pavelec
5. Quick
6. Reimer
7. Schneider
8. Bernier
9. Neurvth
10. Lunqvist
11. Hasek
In which case...
Price
Schneider
Quick
Rask
Pavelec
Crawford
Bernier
Reimer
Halak
Howard
Holtby
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No Neuvirth? I’d say a 48 start .914 season has to get him a spot on that list.
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That’s hardly the question at hand! I can’t think of anyone in this league that would outplay Vokoun (I’m a little dumbfounded that the Wings are rumored to want Vokoun to back up Howard…talk about backwards)
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you’d take Hasek for the next 10 years?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think i tricked him somehow by including him on my overly homertastic list.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
I hate Christian Ehrhoff because he should have been Tomas Kaberle.
Bryzgalov (Ok not young but you said take as a franchise goalie and thats just what we did), Bobrovsky, Varlamov, Neuwirth, Holtby, Reimer, Quick, and Schneider.
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But he has a higher SV% than Roy at the same age
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Oh man, don’t get me worked up about that again.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he looked pretty awful in that Detroit series
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by Future_considerations on Jul 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone did.
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because the question asked.. who would you take as your franchise goalie….
the answer ..
Bryzgalov.
I always liked him second to Varlamov (I did a Fanpost on Japers rink called .. I propose a mutually beneficial trade .. where we trade Carter to Washington for Varly) ..
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How many of them said “HELL YES” – assuming it wouldn’t force them to make moves to accomodate the salary.
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allot.. to be honest.. i knew Carter was gone.. I didnt think Phoenix was going to let Bryz walk so I thought we had no shot. I thought Varly was the next best opportunity knowing that they have Holtby, Neuwirth in the system
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So at 41 years old, you’s take bryz as your franchise goalie?
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
just as much as Tampa takes Rolo at 41 to be their franchise goalie.
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Tampa didn’t sign Rolo to a 5 year plus deal. Just because he’s playing for their team doesn’t make him a “franchise goalie.” We’re talking about who would you want to have locked into your team (no “he retires in 5 years!” crap) for the next 5-7 years.
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If Tampa had a choice of picking any goalie in the world to have for the next 10 years, they’d be stupid to pick Rolo
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
PatPark23 Pat Park
Rick Dudley will be listed in Leafs’ publications as Director of Player Personnel.
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Me thinks the day Brian Burke relinquishes GM duties to Nonis is not too far off.
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wouldnt be surprised if it was next year
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And then give Dudley Asst GM/Marlies GM type deal? Like Nonis = new Burke and Dudley = new Nonis
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Wooooo!!! Front office depth!!1
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
how about me? do i get a promotion?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Executive Assistant to the Executive Vice-President of Frozen Pizza
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today, i suggest we add more cheese and bacon to the frozen pizza
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I retract my earlier statement, you got the promotion!
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You better run that by the VP of Pork and Dairy Operations first
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably gonna spend this year building up the prospect pool of forwards, then give Nonis the reigns to develop and eventually look for final pieces.
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I kind of feel bad for Burke. No credit for building Vancouver, etc.
I love Nonis and all, but it might be nice if we had a Lou Lam type GM who is just there forever and gets credit as being the best
Lou – Get lucky drafting one of the best goalies ever and hire a coach who implements a system designed to protect said best goalie. Win championships. Rinse and repeat.
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goalie gets old and starts to rapidly decline, sell farm for biggest UFA on market, sign him to whatever he wants, lose draft picks when you get caught cheating. new UFA has off year and other super star gets hurt
pee self
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hire new coach from within the organization. Do poorly. Fire new coach, return old coach as quickly as possible. Have to hire new coach at end of season.
pee self
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heh, Lou is old
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it some sort of violation if he spends team money on adult diapers?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Can he move players for adult diapers? He’ll need them for a good salary dump at any rate.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll need to dump a lot of stuff /ifyaknowwhatimsayin;);)
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
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by GreatKingRat on Jul 15, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So get yo ass checked out before it’s too late, turkey!
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Mr.T would be a great spokes person…
What about S.L.Jackson?
get your Muther F%^*in ass looked at!
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 16, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Star RFA winger gets injured limiting size of his next contract, Have massive turnaround second half of season, win draft lottery to pick 4th, teams ahead of you draft overrated wingers so you can draft best looking defenseman in years. Laugh all the way to bank.
i still think he is a ninja turtle wearing human skin coloured make up
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
glad i’m not the only one that gets a turtle vibe from him..
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
SO accurate
rec, primarily for accuracy but a heavy nod for nasal coffee projection.
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by Maniel Darois on Jul 16, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
looks more like he’s trying to figure out if he has swass or shit himself.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t do it for the pat on the back, and anyone who knows anything knows he deserves a high amount of credit for Vancouver’s recent cup runs. If it were easy to get a #2 and #3 pick in the draft, everyone with a #1 pick would try to do it. I hate to project my own thoughts, but I doubt Burke is worried about what Vancouver fans think about him at this point.
But yeah, it’d be nice to have some stability. If we really do turn the corner in the next 4 years, I imagine Nonis will be around for a while, and even if he isn’t, his combined GM and A-GM time will be quite long. The sport just doesn’t lend itself to longevity. Though I agree with Skinny – Lamoriello probably isn’t the guy you want to use as an example.
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I by no means think Lamoriello is the best GM or anything. If you check my OP i just mean he’s around forever and is called the best. I know Burke doesn’t do things for credit, he does it to win. But I like Burke and I like the direction he’s taking the team so I would prefer if he or Nonis could stay around for a while, instead of new GMs every couple years.
All great GMs have to be a little bit of lucky. McKegg having such a good post-draft year was pretty lucky. If Phaneuf plays lights out next year that’s lucky. Ken Holland is mega lucky, just like Lamoriello. But it’s nice to have a figure head you can be confident in. Sure, Lamoriello had Brodeur land in his lap. But he also had Larrsson somehow land in his lap. I’m not say he did anything to do either of those things, but you can only say that track recording is misleading for so long until it becomes true.
Yeah, I get what you mean (though Burke is no more lucky should McKegg pan out than any other GM drafting). And as lucky as Lou got with Brodeur, it’s still a challenge to build a good team around a goalie, even if that’s a defensive team (FLA/Vokoun comes to mind most recently, but there are others, right Ubiquitous?).
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Brian Burke is outsourcing his job responsibilities. Soon there won’t be anything left for him to do.
except visit the troops, march in the pride parade and yell at steve simmons
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lining his parakeets cage with the Sun.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jul 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice article about Tim Horton.
My favourite part is actually Jim Schoenfeld talking about what Horton taught him as a rookie about playing D:
“The biggest thing he taught me was to time your departure from the offensive zone, so that you’re matching the speed of the forwards in the neutral zone,” Schoenfeld says. "It was all about timing; the old term is ‘standing the guys up’, but there’s a misnomer there, where you think it’s just standing flat-footed and lunging at the forward and you get toasted on either side. But it’s really where you give the forward a little ice, and once you come to the point of no return, you take him out. Once I got it, it really made things easier for my game because I spent a lot less time in the defensive zone. And even if a guy beat you, he was often off-sides. I’d want to back up all the time, but Timmy’s thing was always ‘No, you’ve got to hold the line.’
He kept teaching me, and it was invaluable."
So few people really get this. Nice to see Horton did.
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The ability to do subtle things like being able to anticipate the play as it goes through transition can make a less skilled defender invaluable, and an inability to do so can make a skilled one expendable. It always just seemed to make sense to me when I played that the less your play relied on reacting, the better off you’d be. Certainly does seem to be pretty rare.
Glad you posted that article. Made for a good read at the end of a slow day.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I have zero skill level but have always prided myself on closing out before the opposing forward can cross the blue line. This was a perfect description of how to do it.
A lot of people think Dater’s a troll but I enjoyed the piece. Glad you did too.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was on the other end, I always found there was a timing thing to getting defenders to give you a lane, a stutter step or sharp upper body turn at the right second to falsify direction or speed increase was always something I was looking to use in a one on one situation.
But I had speed to burn so usually i just dipped one way and turned on the jets.
Coming up against a defender who understood timing (if they consciously knew it or not) was always a fun little game of chess though. it was way more satisfying to beat one of them
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I always watch the sternum. 99% of fakes are with the head, shoulders or hands. Stay in front of the sternum and he’s going nowhere.
I wish we could have a PPP scrimmage in TO some day.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you guys play in full equipment or shinny styles?
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
depends who im playing against, usually i just wear lower gear with gloves and a helmet
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I play DMHL. It’s non-contact, but still full equipment.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i am just starting to get my hockey legs back, i still have no endurance and am sucking wind pretty bad by the half
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My only strength is being fast (compared to others in my league) so if you got close enough you’d probably rob me.
i have no wheels anymore, i rely on a power game to keep the puck
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I play defence… I’m just a good passer hahaha
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m trying to get better at protecting/keeping it when I have it, my stickhandling isn’t that strong and I skate head down alot.
I played last night for the first time in about 4 months.
Cardio was fine but my timing was awful. All night, I couldn’t line-up a long pass or hit a one-timer.
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cardio is a weird thing for me, I can run 3-4 miles just fine, but I skate at full speed for 30 seconds and im dead nuts tired
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
er not full speed, half of full speed
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by JaredFromLondon on Jul 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jared only has one gear. FULL THROTTLE!
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, two totally different kinds of fitness. I do fine if we only have 2 or 3 D and I have to go half-pace but without breaks, but I’m dying if we have subs and I need to go full intensity for a minute or two.
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been playing ball hockey twice a week this summer. It’s amazing for cardio. No gliding, always running. If you’re out for more than a minute, you’re toast.
Switched to ice hockey last night, was floored that a few guys were staying out for 4 or 5 minute shifts.
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That would be great.
If I’m out for 4-5 minutes (or more) it’s only because there’s no one to relieve me. On a team of lawyers our no-show rate hovers around 50% (as Dellow can attest).
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by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You probably don’t get too many honest answers on why they miss games too, right?
/jimcarrey’d
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by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No, we actually inherited it from another group of guys who effectively retired. Their jersey had a Griffin on it. The team name was therefore Merv.
Our jerseys are totally different now so the name is just randomly bizarre.
"[Phil Kessel]'s as streaky as a flipped coin" - Shift
by The '67 Sound on Jul 15, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, all the law school people I know always try to come up with really clever names for their sports teams.
my intermural softball team name last year was the Mustard Tigers
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not cardio then
That’s more a peak power thing
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
In March, I played with a ref for the first time in about 4 years. I’d dicked around at some pickups before (goalie), but it wasn’t until I was in a game situation that I realized all my equipment is either too small (leg pads) or broken to the point where it’s not staying where it should. Toss that in with being overweight and out of shape, and the 40 shots against for each of the next 4 games I played were not okay.
Up side: I get to go gear side, and I have enough money now to go all out (new pro spec pads, chest protector that fits / is my style, etc.). Down side: there isn’t anywhere near me for miles that has both the Vaughn and Brians set that I want to try on.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
Yeah. A couple shots through my fivehole because the only way I can close it is basically if my knees are touching. I’ve pretty much decided I’m not allowed to go play until I get new gear, because I’ll end up picking up some nasty habits.
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
BOWER POWER’S CUSTOM MASK CONTEST
Popped a Colboner - Certified Joe Colborne Fanboy
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmm. I would love it. I’ve never bothered to get a mask painted, but I’ve had a couple thoughts on one. I definitely can’t afford a custom paint job in the middle of decking out everything else, though =(
This is where a witty signature might go.
This is where a witty signature might go on drugs.
I always watch the sternum.
This is the most valuable thing I ever learned as a defenseman. By a mile.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jul 16, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t watch them, I just break them
Popped a Colboner - Certified Joe Colborne Fanboy
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
by happiergilmore on Jul 17, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
For those asking, the Wpg Jets may unveil their logo in the next few weeks, but we likely won’t see the new uniform until September.
All this jersey talk, I’m kinda curious
Popped a Colboner - Certified Joe Colborne Fanboy
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
/
I hope when they finally do show us the finished product that I’m like this:
Instead of this:
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
JLupul Joffrey Lupul
Fed ex guy got me w/ this one… He’s lucky it didn’t say go Habs or it would be go time. yfrog.com/kjrasxej
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions
Hahaha that’s really funny.
Popped a Colboner - Certified Joe Colborne Fanboy
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a great tweeter, definitely a worthy follow.
Popped a Colboner - Certified Joe Colborne Fanboy
I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
by happiergilmore on Jul 15, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Joffery Lupul is awesome. If he stays healthy this year he might be challenging for favorite Leaf.
"Callgirl! She was a callgirl!"
"No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!"
24/02/11: I was there.
"If you've ever questioned whether or not @dboyce47 is a gamer, well, the answer is as plain as the nose that used to be on his face." - Sean Boulton
This is the tweet that made me start following him
http://twitter.com/#!/JLupul/status/51164729447677952
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jul 15, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed all of this
but I’m glad we brought in Dupuis ( despite his douchiness)… more 3rd/4th liner competition means the cream rises to the top.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
oh and Boyce
and Zigomanis might both end up on the Marlies… they had their UFA chance to move to other clubs and nobody offered them 1 way deals is my guess… so why bother moving in that case?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 15, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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