MGK - Who Leads Whom?
One of the things that I've been wondering about the MGK line is which players on the line drive their production, particularly in terms of puck possession. Does one guy lead the way, do two guys bring the third guy along, or do they all contribute equally? To try to figure that out, I've compared some of the more important possessional stats for these players. For each statistic, I've given the players a rank to indicate how well they did in comparison to other Leaf forwards who played at least 20 games. For Zone Starts the rank is from toughest zone starts to easiest, and I've not included a ranking for Zone Finishes because they're quite relative to Zone Starts. With that in mind, if you look at last year, you get the following:
| 2010-2011 | |||||||||
| Player | Corsi On | Rank | Corsi REL | Rank | Qualcomp | Rank | Zone Start | Rank | Zone Finish |
| Mikhail Grabovski | 9.91 | 1 | 21.3 | 1 | 0.017 | 2 | 50.2 | 10 | 53.4 |
| Nikolai Kulemin | 4.77 | 3 | 13.7 | 3 | 0.016 | 4 | 51.0 |
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51.9 |
| Clarke MacArthur | 8.54 | 2 | 19.3 | 2 | 0.008 | 7 | 49.5 | 9 | 53.5 |
Those statistics seem to tell a pretty clear story - Grabovski played tough competition, but dominated play; MacArthur was only slightly behind Grabbo; and Kulemin played tough competition, but didn't perform quite as well as his two linemates. It looks at first glance as though Grabovksi and MacArthur made Kulemin look better. What happens if we expand our view a little bit? Follow me past the jump and we'll see.
What we just saw doesn't quite accord with what I've seen though. What I've witnessed over the past two years is that Kulemin has become a force at both ends of the ice, driving possession and making those around him look better in the process. Have my eyes deceived me, or are the stats hiding something? In order to try and answer that question, I decided I would look at how these three players have performed over the previous couple of seasons. Hopefully this will isolate them from each other a bit, providing a glimpse into what they might provide individually. I've included rankings for Clarke MacArthur for the 2009-10 season compared to the Atlanta Thrashers, where he finished the season. However, he started the season with the Buffalo Sabres, so the rankings aren't entirely accurate, so take them with a grain of salt. Here are the previous two years worth of statistics:
| 2009-2010 | |||||||||
| Player | Corsi On | Rank | Corsi REL | Rank | Qualcomp | Rank | Zone Start | Rank | Zone Finish |
| Mikhail Grabovski | 17.93 | 1 | 13.6 | 1 | -0.009 | 10 | 55.1 | 8 | 52.0 |
| Nikolai Kulemin | 10.98 | 2 | 6.9 | 2 | 0.056 | 2 | 50.4 | 2 | 50.7 |
| Clarke MacArthur | -2.66 | 9 | -1.1 | 9 | 0.008 | 7 | 47.2 | 7 | 49.5 |
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| 2008-2009 | |||||||||
| Player | Corsi On | Rank | Corsi REL | Rank | Qualcomp | Rank | Zone Start | Rank | Zone Finish |
| Mikhail Grabovski | 3.97 | 3 | 3.9 | 3 | -0.012 | 7 | 52.5 | 4 | 54.4 |
| Nikolai Kulemin | -0.7 | 6 | 0.69 | 7 | 0.009 | 2 | 52.4 | 3 | 53.0 |
| Clarke MacArthur | 0.74 | 3 | 4.1 | 2 | -0.004 | 9 | 44.9 | 1 | 48.0 |
So what can we see from these charts? Perhaps the most obvious thing is that Grabovski has played consistently well for the Leafs for three straight years. First he played against middling competition and put up good numbers, then he played against middling competition and put up outstanding numbers, and then he played against tough competition and still put up extremely impressive numbers.
Two years ago Kulemin was used primarily in a checking role, and he played that role fairly well. The next year he really broke out, continuing to play the toughest competition on the team and starting to provide considerable performance despite it. He more or less put in the same kind of performance in 2010-11 as he did in 2009-10.
MacArthur has a bit of a tougher path to chart. Like Kulemin, he was used primarily in a checking role in 2008-09, playing middling competition with difficult zone starts. It's a bit difficult to know what to make of his Corsi numbers, which are not very good overall but were among the best on a Sabres team that was consistently out-shot. The next season MacArthur took a real step back - he continued playing fairly middling competition, but was on the negative side of the Corsi ledger. That may be why he was traded and then let go in the summer - he provided mediocre performance against mediocre competition. Then this past year his numbers were fantastic.
What can we make of all this? I think it's clear that Grabovski is an excellent player; he's taken on an increasingly difficult role each year, and he's continued to dominate puck possession all along the way. Kulemin started out playing in a checking role and took a bit of time to adjust to the NHL, but by his 2nd season he was carrying possession against difficult opposition, and he continued to do so last year. MacArthur spent two seasons providing middling performance against middling opposition. Then this past year, while playing with two players who were strong possessionally, his numbers shot through the roof.
I'm open to hearing other interpretations, or statistics I didn't look at here, but I think it's pretty clear that while MacArthur had a great year, and deserves credit for having done so, he got a pretty significant boost from being paired with arguably the two best players on the Leafs.
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Is it not possible
that there was synergy with all 3? I mean Grabovski’s numbers shot up last year also… and so did Kulemin’s. All 3 of them improved drastically as a unit over where they were the year before.
They were basically the top corsi rel unit in the NHL last year as a trio, which is saying a lot.
I think the scary thing is, it was their first year together, and two of them were under 25. Next year they should be able to replicated what they did before.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Next year they should be able to replicated what they did before.
Or maybe they don’t. It’d be great if it happened, but isn’t it also possible that last year they were the benefactors of good fortune/timing and all had good years? I’m not saying this is/isn’t the case, but you seem awfully sure that it will happen. I hope you’re right.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jul 5, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m skeptical that the chemistry is between Mac and the USSR. I’m concerned it may simply be Kulemin + Grabbo + insert name of average-or-better-player here… Although I’d like to give MacArthur the benefit of the doubt, I really need to see him AT LEAST replicate what he did before I feel I’m in any position to judge.
But absolutely, it is certainly possible that the synergy existed between all three better than anyone else. But I do distinctly remember reading a contributed article on this site that assessed this argument during the season, which also provided some numbers suggesting MacArthur was given the gift of playing along the two of them.
I wrote repeatedly
and actually tried to point out that MacArthur’s number of 1st assists, and his Corsi ratings suggested he was as much of a contributor if not more of one than Kulemin (from an offensive perspective). The fact that he led the line in points also indicates that he was more important than people give him credit for.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Jul 17, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s possible that there was some synergy between them. They’re all guys who are great on the forecheck, and they break out of the defensive zone pretty efficiently as a unit. That being said, and I haven’t looked into the stats as far as this goes, but based on watching the games, I found that Kulemin and Grabovski continued to play very well when MacArthur wasn’t on their line, while MacArthur looked like he struggled without those guys to play with. Kulie/Grabbo/Kessel was an excellent unit, I thought, while MacArthur/Bozak/Kessel was not. Since Kulie/Bozak/Kessel was such a good line the year before (and based on the stats here), my conclusion is that Kulie is a guy who drives possession more than MacArthur does. That’s not to say that MacArthur is bad, just that he benefits from the linemates he plays with.
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Kulie/Grabbo/Kessel was an excellent unit
Me too. Would like to see them reunited when the Leafs offense inevitably needs a jump start
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by MapleLeafMole on Jul 6, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
who leads WHOM?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jul 5, 2011 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
i see a lot of numbers but i don’t see much in the way of an explanation….i don’t mean to pick on you, but is this a case where these so-called advanced statistics don’t really help us much?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jul 5, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Hmmm
I agree that chemistry had a lot to do with it, but Grabovski consistently leads from the front and play well every shift, and Kulemin also works hard at what he does and gets his line a lot of good looks. I’d say MacArthur, because of his slumps, is the third wheel, but they were the best line TO had last year and could be the most valuable again.
not to say you did a bad job, just my stupidity
by pho king awesome on Jul 6, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Corsi On is the shot differential per 60 minutes when the player is on the ice (including blocked and missed shots). Corsi Rel is the difference between shot totals when the player is on the ice vs when the player is off the ice (ie. how well they do in comparison to their team-mates). Qualcomp is a rating based on how good the Corsi ratings of their competition are. If you’re not sure what it means, it’s useful just to look at their rating on the team; in this case, Kulemin consistently plays some of the toughest matchups on the team. Zone start is the % of shifts the player starts in the offensive zone (but does not include neutral zone face-offs). Zone finish is the % of shifts they finish in the offensive zone, which is intended to give us some idea of what direction the puck was moving in while they were on the ice.
Hope that helps a bit.
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Zone Starts
MacArthur had the toughest zone starts of all three and still managed to maintain a positive Corsi On, with the exception of his 2009-2010 season (I liked your point about his struggles leading to him being moved around). He gets the puck moving in the right direction and is a huge boost to Kulemin and Grabovski.
I’m really glad he’s back for another couple of seasons because I really want to see if he’s the real deal (I think so).
Thanks for putting this together!
I think this is what Mac was talking about last year, when he would he would say he was being given a chance.
A chance to play with some good players, for a long stretch. Full marks to Mac, even if an average player, he’s a smart player. He took full advantage of the situation last season, by getting the puck on Grabs stick whenever he could.
Nifty Mittens
I think to this of these guys of sort of as Power Rangers. Each is good on their own but when they merge into one they are unstoppable.
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Grabbo’s the legs, Kulie’s the arms, and Mac is the torso that holds it all together.
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I don’t need your fancy graphamadoodles or advanced statamjiggers-Kulemin is awesome!
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jul 6, 2011 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
MGK 2011-12: MacArthur-Grabovski-Kadri? With a top line of Kulemin-Connolly-Kessel and 3rd line of Lupul-Bozak(Lombardi)-Armstrong.
by scott tubbesing on Jul 12, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions

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