A Lack of Depth and Injuries a Cause For Concern?
by SkinnyFish on Aug 12, 2011 7:01 AM EDT
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PrintWe all know the names that will make up the roster in that regard—Kessel and Lupul will likely be with Connolly on, ostensibly, the "first" line. Grabovski will again center MacArthur and Kulemin. After that, we have a raft of bottom-six guys, useful pluggers who can chip in once in a while on offense—Armstrong, Bozak, Boyce, Crabb and many others.Now, the young guys may make a splash…individuals such as Kadri, Frattin, Colborne seem to be on everyone’s tongue. It's exciting to "project potential", as I said the other day, but it’s an uncertain science, to be sure. Those guys may all make the squad, and maybe that re-jigs the forward mix a bit for the better. Again, we'll see.But here’s my concern: last season, the Leafs were remarkably free of serious injuries for extended periods of time. Armstrong and Phaneuf missed some time, but in terms of serious setbacks (and compared with all kinds of other teams in the East), they really did not face that kind of roster turbulence.
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How many more good players do we need to get before our first line goes from an “ostensible” first line to an “actual” first line? Just curious.
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by GreatKingRat on Aug 12, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends, has Kessel learned to crosscheck?
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by mf37 on Aug 12, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Love when you get on board with the memes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Too early. Should save it for when it matters. Like in…
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
oh! oh ! i know this one!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Why I oughta crosscheck you for that. But me and Kessel, we don’t crosscheck. Even though it’s…
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ohh...okay i can do this one.
even though cross checking is this:
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Don't need any more "good" players. A few "Great" players would be nice though.
I hope one day we go from “technically” a 1st line to a dominating 1st line the likes of Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan, Sedin-Sedin-whoever, Ovechkin-Backstrom-whoever….
If MGK can power up another season to the next gear I’d say we have one.
I don’t see it being Lupul-30gamesOfConnolly/30gamesOfLombardi/22gamesofBozak – Kessel
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And by "dominating" i mostly mean point production
I realize I may get some pushback calling the Sedin line dominating given all the adv. stats on how soft their minutes were.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
100 point production is still 100 point production.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
and there are plenty of players in this league who play soft, sheltered minutes and don’t sniff anything remotely close to that level of production.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
How many other NHL forwards can say they hit triple digits this last season? St. Louis maybe?
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They do dominate.
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I know but some one will argue about the semantics around the definition of “dominating”. That’s PPP 101.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Titles was on the midterm, semantics is on the final.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL CUMMULATIVE
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone in my office said “if you do do something” in a meeting. I laughed at “do do.”
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I was giggling for 10 minutes a few weeks ago because I had to review an Agreement we were signing with a company from Placentia, California. The guy who signed for them also had the last name “Wang”
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Saying that they dominated is valid because they did.
Pointing out that they dominated with easy ice-time is also valid. It would be interesting to see if that kind of domination is actually conducive to winning Stanley Cups or if it’s on average better to have a top line that can go power versus power. I would imagine that a top line that can play in tough minutes frees up the other lines, allowing for more balanced scoring, which is a good thing.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a matter of how effectively your coaching strategy gels with your personnel. Obviously, you want all your players to be able to do everything, but that’s not possible. So if you have a bunch of specialists, like Vancouver does, good coaching means sheltering your offensive guys, etc. If you have more of a blend of “jack of all trades, master of none” types, like we do, it makes sense to balance assignments a bit more.
I fucking hate calling AV a good coach, but if the shoe fits…
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He did do an excellent job at manipulating his lineup. I agree with you. I’m just wondering “aloud” whether that kind of personnel is ideal for winning a Cup.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, every model in existence is a downgrade from the ideal of universally useful players, right? I think how you leverage the strengths your left with is more important than whether you compromised in favour of specialists or balance.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, but they may not necessarily be equivalent approximations of the ideal.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course not, but if you look at the highest achieving teams last year that roughly conform to one of those ideas, you have two teams that played to a game 7 in the Stanley Cup final. That’s reasonably close for comparative purposes, I think.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me put it this way: if you were building a team, which model would you prefer? And I’m not trying to prove anything, I’m just discussing for the sake of discussing something.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends which players are available.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I used the wrong your/you’re variant. Excuse me while I go hang myself.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Based on my post about 1st line point totals on playoff teams, the Leafs need to add a point-per-game player to the top line to be at the level that playoff teams have averaged over the past 5 seasons. The rest of our top 6 is probably fine.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Though if the Leafs want to win the Stanley Cup, my post would suggest that they need to add two point-per-game players.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Just to be safe.
So Parise and…..?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Getzlaf when Anaheim realises it can only afford one of him and Penner, duh.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Penner is on the Kings.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I really suck with double letters lately. Did the same thing with the word “rabbit” the other day.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw. Shape up man
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m moving to Toronto today boys! This hockey season is going to be fantastic!
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From where?
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fair, but the atmosphere there….
I’d leave Toronto in a heatbeat for a comparable job in NS
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Yeap. My ultimate goal is to settle out east. Seems like the perfect place to raise kids, start a life.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
One day, a swarm of evil ginger bearded babies will FALL UPON THEE in Raleigh
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by PKSube on Aug 12, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HA! I moved to Charlotte three months ago! Now they’ll never find me!
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you just reminded me of one of the funniest TV show episodes ever. IT Crowd, Season 2, Episode 1 – “The Work Outing”
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s hoping hockey season goes better for you than it did for me the 4 years I spent down there.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I just realized right now that the last playoff season was the last year I didn’t live in Toronto.
Time to dust off the old resume.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs haven’t been in the playoffs since I was in High School…. time to dust off the.. Billy Madison re-enactment?
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I was in grade 11 I think.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Same. My first year of undergrad was 06-07 season. I still remember throwing up on the steps of my friend’s residence due to drunkenness a few hours after we were eliminated from the playoffs after the devils lost.
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I was a sophomore in college.
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by Chemmy on Aug 12, 2011 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can actually remember being stuck in Driving School during the second round against the Flyers, and my dad picking me up with the game on the radio in the car (afternoon game IIRC). I distinctly recall him giving me shit for going on a swearing tirade following a Flyer’s goal.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there a reason behind how in the US they used Freshman, Sophomore, Jr, Sr, whereas in Canada those terms are very seldom used?
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tradition probably. we just went by grade numbers, or letters in the case of OAC for us old people
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Yeah exactly, and in university we just say 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year etc. Also weird how in elementary/high school we say “grade 5” or “grade 12” instead of “5th Grade”, but in post-secondary its “2nd Year”, not “year 2”
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You should’ve said “I’m from Canada and they think I’m slow, eh”
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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
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(I know it’s not from the same episode)
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yabba Dabba Do I love playing with you.
That sounds dirty, I think it was “talking to you”.
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I feel shame.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
When I first moved to the US I was telling people that I was from Canada thinking that American’s impression of Canadians are a laid back, cool and kind people. Back-fired big time, Americans look at Canadians more like slow, red-headed step child.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
uh, way to generalize a whole population.
The americans I’ve met have thought that Canadians’ are cute, nice and a little naieve, mostly
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I’m guessing then that you’re cute, nice and a little naieve?!?!?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
then I’m guessing you’re a slow, red-headed step child?
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by Fergus30 on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
owned.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d think so, but no. After a while I would just play up to their expectations and talk about my dog sled and igloo. And yes, I know “Joe” from Toronto.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
This is usually what I get. In Michigan they love the Canadian accent. They find it adorable.
by WizardofNaz on Aug 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I find people just about everywhere enjoy accents that differ from what they’re used to hearing, so long as they can decipher them.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i whoeheartedly agree with this as well.
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I will also agree… Irish accents on a cute girl. OMG!!
Or Australian
by WizardofNaz on Aug 12, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Americans look at Canadians more like slow, red-headed step child.
This is in no way accurate. I’ve only gotten two types of responses in my 15 years in the States: Positive and South Park References. Most of the positive ones are about being polite and/or laid back. Most of the South Park References aren’t as original as people think.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, most American’s I’ve met expect my head to detach at the jaw.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean yours doesn’t?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
is it bad that I’ve thought about the dirty connotations of this if it was true?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey relax, you need a rest, guy
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I’m not your guy, friend
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
FUCK. I couldn’t remember which way it was. It’s “I’m not your friend, guy” isn’t it.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe:
1. “I’m not your guy, buddy.”
2. “I’m not your buddy, friend.”
3. “I’m not your friend, guy.”
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
So what you’re saying is there’s a third one, that they don’t think Canadians get/like South Park?
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Also you have no idea how many times I hear the “Canada is like a loft above a really great party” when referencing why US is better.
Then I always bust out the “hey yah I watch Robin Williams too, got any more of his jokes?”
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From Neil Hamburger:
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Mr. Robin Williams.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I tend to respond with, “No, Canada is like America. But without the crime.”
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I usually respond we with "we are more like America’s skull without us around your brain would fall out and just lie there on the ground
by WizardofNaz on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And SOCIALIST!!!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My favourite instance of being stereotyped was when a group of Caps fans assumed I’d be upset by their mentioning of John Carlson.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
when I went down to meet Skinny’s family, everyone was super nice and the only stereotyping I really heard was “you must like hockey” and funnily enough, most people greeted me by yelling “EH” and sticking their hand out.
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when I was down camping in Michigan with my friends cousin and all his friends. Me and my friend were called the Canadian’s eh! I’m pretty sure they didn’t know our real name. Also they thought we were so naive when it came to drinking until we just demolished them in drinking games and started chirping american beer for being so watered down
by WizardofNaz on Aug 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This one always frustrates me. No one seems to understand how awesome “eh” is. “It turns a sentence…into a question.” Everyone in the States does it, they just don’t realize they do it with “huh?” or “y’know?” or something else. (I stopped saying “eh” when I switched to a rhetorical “ya?” at the end of sentence-questions.)
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
inn’it? (in england)
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by theninjagreg on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I like eh. Makes me a part of something bigger and better
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh is awesome. It’s far superior to “Dont’cha know?”
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What the heck?!?!? Who still says “dont-cha know” besides Bobby’s mom from Bobby’s World?!?!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I often say it ironically.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
You hipster, you!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, just wondering – where’ve you lived in the states, sarkozy?
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
i sometimes go with a hey, instead of eh, but it’s not too noticeable.
i apparently say eh a lot it’s been pointed out.
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Whenever I do, it always gets called out. It’s like people are just waiting for it to happen.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Or “How aboot that?”
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
.
yeap, but no one outside of the midwest really says “Dont’cha know.”
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it had to do with the fact that I moved to the US at the beginning of highschool. Arghhh… tweens/teens can be so cruel!!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
My friend lived in the US (washington state) for 3 years when he was in grades 7 through 9, says similar things.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
NO! …Yeah..
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I certainly was.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you all know you’re molding me into the person I will grow up to be in 10 years or so.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Lord help whatever poor soul happens to be shaped by anything I do.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s cool. We’re probably idiots too. It’ll just take us another ten years to notice.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I realize I’m an idiot as I’m doing things. It’s just my caring about it level has dropped.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I moved to the states when I was 7. All through Middle School, High School, College. I got a couple Mountie jokes, but that was pretty much it. Have you considered it may have had nothing to do with your nationality?
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
We had tons of “BLAME CANADA” t-shirts but that was only because the VP was Canadian.
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That’s pretty funny. All we have is a massive billboard with the Canadian-US exchange rate
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you live a very strange, imaginary United States following your last few days of commenting.
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Probably Texas or something
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve lived here for 20 years. Most Americans are just plain ignorant in general when it comes to anything existing outside the US, including Canada.
To this day, the most common question I get when people find out I’m from Canada is:
“Do you speak French?”
a close second is:
“It must be so cold up there.”
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Mostly not so funny, but I remember the one time where they congratulated Canada on “getting FM radio”
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
ah yes, I remember this one was hilarious!!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The King of Canada will be visiting our National Igloo.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Low-hanging fruit fest. So yes.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
oh jeese. It was obviously biased, but it was funny. A lot of the jokes themselves were good and would have probably worked on half of the canadian population too so it was good.
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I liked the one where he was asking people if they thought Canada should get its own Navy, even though we don’t have any coast.
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Or the petition to move to a 24-hr day like the Americans (instead of the current 20hr day).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Who’s complaining about bias?
A few of the gags I saw were funny on merit, then they did them 800 times and made them boring. Others were too arcane for it to be funny someone didn’t know them. Meh.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, seriously. I hated that show. People just tend to be polite and assume you’re not lying to them, so they go along… (Granted, people are also pretty dumb, anyway, meh.)
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by Berezin's Spleen on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t laughed at Rick Mercer in a decade.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw him on the street a few months ago and went “Hey, it’s Rick Mercer, ha ha.” If not for that I’d make a similar statement.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
"It must be so cold up there."
Well… it is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s more of a “people think there’s winter 9 months of the year” type of thing
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Not everywhere and not all the time. It’s cold in the US too…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
How the average American mind works when speaking with a Canadian for the first time:
Uh…Canada…Canada….Canada….what do I know about Canada. Ok….uh…gosh this is hard…..ok, there’s lots of snow all year long….oh, and I think I remember something about everything being in French.
So, Canada, EH……must be quite a change down here from all that snow. Do you speak French?
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To be fair, I get that a lot from Torontonians when I say I go to school in MTL
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well isn’t that because Torontonians and Americans both think they’re the center of the universe?
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It’s different because Toronto is the center of Canada
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I love being that dick that points out Montreal is almost dominantly English speaking (is it?) and language is hardly a problem in most places
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I would never say dominantly english overall, but the west side of the city is
I would say that Montreal is almost dominantly bilingual, except for the english parts
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Yeah, so it’s either bilingual or dominantly english. Anyways, I’ve never had problems with language there, which is my point
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
depends on the political atmosphere at the time.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, if you wanna die
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I have, but I’m pretty sure that guy was just a dick.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I went to Parc Jean Drapeau this past weekend, and the lady at the counter wouldn’t sell me admission until I asked for it in French.
To be fair, that’s the first time anything like that has ever happenned to me.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i love going out with my mother-in-law for this reason.
one time she asked for the english menu (i was with them) so the waitress made a big show about it and stomped back with it like is ruine dher day.
so my mother in law starts asking ehr a bunch of questiosn in english and it’s killing this waitress, and when it’s time to order she does so in perfect french.
the look on her face was fantastic
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t thought canada was just toronto and a bunch of glaciers.
At least that’s what people from Toronto tell me.
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In Toronto we even lump some Toronto neighbourhoods in with the glaciers.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s different because Toronto is thecentercentre ofCanadathe Hockey Universe
Moar Canadian eh
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense though. I get it when I tell people I went to uOttawa. They just assume that because it’s a “bilingual” school I went there due to speaking french (which I don’t).
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I also went to uOttawa and some people actually thought in order to be accepted you had to have a rudimentary knowledge of French (if only they knew how French deficient my entire floor was in first year).
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah exactly, I don’t understand it when it’s people who also go/went to a college/university in Ontario, you’d think they would research these things.
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When I was trying to figure out which universities to apply to, I was told by a bunch of people not to apply to uOttawa because I’m not bilingual.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
With the exception of a couple programs it really doesn’t matter. I knew/know people from spit towns like Chalk/Deep River, Athens, etc. and there was no way they were going to have any French going in to uOttawa.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah exactly. Like you can take your degree in French (which is what makes it the “bilingual” university), but if you’re going for a degree in English it has no effect. In fact, I only had one Prof who even spoke English with a heavy french accent, but he was understandable and actually a great prof.
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The only time it matters is those for some reason bilingual programs. For example, I tried to get into Environmental Studies (I know, lol) but opted for Geography instead because in ES I had to take at least 4 courses in French. Why they structure that program like that is beyond me.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Strange. I was in Social Sciences so I never ran into any of this.
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You must love uOttawa getting a shiny new SocialSci building, only for you not to be there anymore.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah they had just dug the hole when I left, though Desmarais was Business/Social Sciences for my last 2 years so I had some classes there. (I actually think it was originally supposed to be the Social Sciences building until Desmarais/Telfer donated money for it to be business)
Vanier was the worst though, the bid aud in the front has the most uncomfortable seats imaginable.
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by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a class in there also, but in the big aud which at least had desks and decent chairs. I also hated the classes in Colonel By where the chairs didn’t move other than swivel on a stationary post.
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I had far too many classes in the CBY dungeon (for some reason they loved sticking geography classes in there). I think we can agree there were/are a lot of shitty classrooms on campus, though as long as you didn’t have to deal with the administration the school itself was pretty solid.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah exactly, though from my experience during my one year at Western I’ve already realized that uOttawa is pretty inferior to it in a lot of areas. I could probably honestly say I wouldn’t go to Ottawa again if I could go back and choose.
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I went to school with the Desmarais kids.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh, if they’re sending people out with a credential that has “bilingual” on it, it makes sense that they do something to make sure the grads invoking their name come as advertised.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
But why not have the “bilingual” part be optional, like they do with most programs.
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Agreed, it doesn’t make much sense; but because there are a whole whack of program options it’s not really all that limiting.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Im at uottawa and I don’t speak any french
by Ben Schnell on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I was in grade… I forget. But I just turned 10!!! I think it was grade 3 or 4
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
oh…my….
man they’re goign to be even sweeter for you when the Leafs make them.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I started undergrad the season following the lockout.
Like I needed more excuses to drink.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that I think about it the Leafs haven’t made the playoffs since I started my current job…
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a quick note
As someone from Scarborough, I can guarantee you that nicknames like this are derived from racism (I’m not attacking you personally, I’m referring to how the nickname evolved).
I joke about Scarborough’s reputation with my friends from the area but that’s because we all know it’s in fact largely a myth. I’ve never heard someone from Scarborough call it Scarlem though, probably because almost 70% of people from Scarborough are non-white.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m from scarborough and I call it SCARBERIA because that’s reference to how there’s shit all there.
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See I’m okay with Scarberia because it’s true that Scarbrough can be quite isolated and desolate. I just think there are racial undertones to Scarlem.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yea, and other ones like…
Scarblackistan.
Yes. I have heard this one very often
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I’ve heard Scompton…never that one though..
Bramptistan I’ve heard.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha! I think Scarberia is in reference to the geography of Siberia as opposed to the inhabitants.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to where I’m from (Barrie) where I often here people refer to the inhabitants as “BarBarrians”
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s the nicest thing I’ve ever heard people from Barrie called.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
ah, Barrie, the armpit of muskoka.
Granted, that’s like being the armpit of a super hot lady
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There are worse things, right?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a really disgusting direction I’d take this in if it weren’t a thread with an attempt at a topic.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure you can buy armpit lube on eBay.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
First, let me say that I really don’t know if this story is true and I don’t remember all the details. It’s pretty indirect knowledge…..anyways, I have a buddy in Miami who works in medical sales. He was telling me about some situation he came across (perhaps a colleague told him) where a young girl had to have a colostomy due to some illness or injury. Anyways, she goes to the doctor and complains of some pain, swelling, etc., around her colostomy hole. Well, they run some tests and figure out it’s VD of some kind. Yeah.
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by birky on Aug 12, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
when I say young girl, I mean very late teens, early20s. Not underage or anything.
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Probably good that you clarified that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Just so long as you don’t abuse said knowledge.
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec’d.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Quick tell it before weekend Dad finds out we’re not using the CC
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
“The pitstop to Blue Mountain” more like it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a Weber’s restaurant near the water in Barrie for quite a while.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s so weird, that’s the SAME face your mom has when I bang her…
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by Fergus30 on Aug 12, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well your mom is so fat when she goes to a restaurant, they dont bring her a menu, they give her an estimate
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
Skinny hits jackpot armpit.
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/yaybraids!
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
do you really think that will turn off Skinny or turn him on?
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There’s a switch?
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by not norm ullman on Aug 12, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Weber’s isn’t all that great. It’s pretty meh.
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It’s not even the ideal place to stop and take a leak
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’d say its very meh. I’ve always enjoyed going there, but I’ve never expected a whole hell of a lot.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I still stop at least once either coming or going up north.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea! I had one of those running shoe appointments and it turns out that my feet fit best into the nike pegasus shoes? I’ve been running for a couple of months in the m and they’re great, but they’re so pricey
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isn’t that kind of a far drive from Scarbra for a pair of shoes?
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Baysville? Nice! That’s very close to our cottage! Lake of Bays is amazing.
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just watch out. When I was in Baysville in June the Mosquitoes were the size of bees
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Deer Flies in August. Enjoy!! Shouldn’t be too bad though
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Hate deer flies so goddamn much.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
June was a bad time to go. Mosquitoes, black flies, horse flies….I had to coat myself in spray.
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Yeah June is awful. I don’t go outside without a sweater on at night. And we’re not a cottage on a lake, we’re in farmland so it’s not that gusty or anything so wind doesn’t do much to help us out.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You have to go to the Lake of Bays brewery.
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Their Rousse is quite enjoyable.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t know there were many Bulgarians up there
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Depending on whether or not you’re a hops fan, the Brewery downtown Barrie is actually making some pretty interesting stuff, despite the fact that it has a stupid name and its located downtown Barrie.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Smashbomb Atomic is delicious, cussing LCBO won’t sell it because the label is too “violent”
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s been changed!!!!!1
You probably can’t get it in your isolated wasteland yet, but LCBO is carrying Smashbomb in civilization now.
Flying Monkeys is a great brewery.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Well the LCBO up here carries Hoptical Illusion…
But this is good news all around.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, down here we get Hoptical, Netherworld, Amber, Smashbomb, and Antigravity from them. Apart from Antigravity it’s a hit parade. They’ve really done well for themselves since they rebranded.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Re-branded? I was hesitant to buy their beer because of the crazy labeling.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
They used to be Robert Simpson’s (they still do make the Confederation Ale from those dark days).
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah. I think they could tone it down a little, who do they think they are, Miracle Whip?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought they were completely out of their tree, but the product seems to speak for itself.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Product is great, but like I said it took me a while to try it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly they have a double IPA coming out any time now. 12.4% and bitter as hell apparently.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I find this intriguing.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It was supposed to be bottled and in the LCBO two weeks ago, but as far as I know that has yet to happen. It’s called “Super Collider”
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I heard someone talking about that. If it’s them and a 2xIPA I’m suddenly very excited about it.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been hounding them since a buddy of mine saw on twitter a while back that they were releasing it. I’ll keep you posted.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Muskoka Brewery in Bracebridge has some good beer. The Mad Tom IPA especially.
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Going there next week.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
My fav IPA right now. Incredible
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh, I thought it was okay, prefer the Hoptical Illusion, I’ll have to try it again.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It reminds me of the 60 minute IPA Dogfish Head makes (used to be in the LCBO) which I loved too.
Hoptical is great though (as is Smashbomb, even more so IMO). It’s nice to be within driving distance (for the summer anyways) of such a great brewery.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Smashbomb is my favourite regularly available beer right now, I think.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Quit rubbing it in.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
This is so weird usually it’s your MOM saying that.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how close you are, but the Brewery lately always has it available in six packs
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if it’s carried everywhere, but I’d highly recommend Galt Knife lager or Curmudgeon Ale to anyone who enjoys the beers listed here.
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I was really (pleasantly) surprised by Galt Knife. Lots of flavour given low ABV.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
mmmm hops.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Flagged. Hops rule.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
They also give beer flavour.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it seems like there’s this new MAXIMUM HOPPZ thing going on with American microbrews where it’s less about subtlety of flavor than it is about EXTREME HOPPZ. I love the Dogfish 60-minute, but there are some crazy hoppy beers coming out…
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by Berezin's Spleen on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hoppiness is certainly trending up right now. I couldn’t possibly portray that as a bad thing.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
not just in the US
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/flying-monkeys-alpha-fornication/147693/
IBU: 2500. that’s just insane.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Also likely impossible. There’s no real governing body for IBU reporting. I’m quite certain that’s exaggerated.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeaht that sounds totally nuts
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flying Monkey Double IPA coming out apparently has 160 IBU’s, and I thought that was bitter as hell
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not new. Super hoppiness hit its peak about three years ago.
The big thing now is local grown single varietal hops that are used dry and shipped ASAP so you can experience single notes on them.
Cascade hops, when super fresh, smell like grapefruit.
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yeah, i’ve noticed that trend as well. i’m still working my way through the better Wisconsin and Illinois IPAs/belgians though, so I haven’t got around to trying them yet.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was about three years ago I first had Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA because it was supposedly a big deal.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the 90 was their best.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree 100 Percent. But overall I think I actually prefer Stone.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy up here who’s good for experimental brews (Mike Lackey for the Toronto beer nerds) put out some casks a while ago with seven different hop strains (Robohop, again for the Toronto beer nerds). I thought it would be nuts, but it was actually really awesome.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re probably right. I guess I’m starting to notice the marketing of it a bit more…
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by Berezin's Spleen on Aug 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and really you’ve already got fergus going after your mom, do you want ehr to suffer more with a gassy fergus?
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Flagged. Gas rules.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate all beer no matter the ingredient.
yeah, I said it.
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That’s like saying “I hate food.” There’s so much variance between styles of beer.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve tried lots, big breweries, small brewies…
tough brewiers, sissy breweries, even breweries that climb on rocks.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t like our beer we will complain and complain until you get moderately annoyed
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I’d flag you, but as you’ve already doomed yourself to unhappiness, I feel like it would be excessive.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Cookstown Outlet Mall?!? Woooohoooo!
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I drive by that place a lot. That McDonald’s is always packed.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
We don’t actually have a Weber’s in town anymore. I think there’s only the one up highway 11 (or 400, can’t remember) now.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s 11.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Scarbaria? Only Scarlem is really racist, as far as I know.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If Scarborough and Harlem both contain proportionally large numbers of black people, how is that racist? Insensitive, yes, but not racist.
*disclaimer I don’t live in either of these areas nor do I know their demographics #’s.
I only called it racist because it was called racist above. I don’t believe it to be racist either, rather as you said, insensitive.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m considering just giving in and paying the $250 for Centre Ice to watch all the Leafs’ games.
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
Can’t get LeafsTV?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Not available on the east coast, and all the Sportsnet games are blacked out too. Regional broadcasting has been a pain for quite some time.
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
I had this ($50 for the year or something), but it was a bit hit or miss. They don’t have all the games and sometimes the feed doesn’t kick in until well into the first period.
by potvin vs hextall on Aug 12, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Believe it or not I’m blacked out to LeafsTV interactive too… NHL gamecentre does sound like a good plan B though.
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
I can’t recall, but are nationally televised games blacked out as well on gamecenter?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Also any regional ones that may be on SportsNet Ontario
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fairly certain the NHL Gamecenter blacks out all National Games (So CBC, TSN) and I seem to remember they do regional blackouts so if Sportsnet Ontario has the Leafs game it``s still blacked out on the East Coast even with Gamecentre.
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GDTs always have links to streams.
That’s the best plan B.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that I recommend it for all 82 games or anything (I buy Center Ice), but for one game here or there they usually have a feed.
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Rogers might offer their games on their ROD online service
like they are for jays games.
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
hm…Rogers owns the Jays though, so it’s much easier to do.
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im not saying all the games
just the ones on leafstv and such
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Leafs TV and Sportsnet games are on LeafsTV interactive or Gamecenter, TSN games usually free crappy stream on TSN.ca, CBC streams its games free.
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i knew cbc did it
i did not know tsn did it as well, thanks for the headsup
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen TSN.ca stream an NHL game.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
They don’t because Rogers doesn’t own the Leafs, I think Bell actually shows Leafs games.
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Yet Sportsnet nationally broadcasts all Jays games but limits the Leafs’ games to Ontario.
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
Rogers owns the Jays, as Shield says it’s the rights.
They’d have to pay lots mroe for national vs regional.
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Yeah, there’s probably also issues with other teams. I’m sure the Sens would be pretty pissed if all 82 Leafs games were available there. I hated living in Ottawa because it was the only place in Ontario that didn’t get regional Leafs games.
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I’m sure the Sens would be pretty pissed if all 82 Leafs games were available there
Who cares.
Broadcasting rights that lead to local blackouts are stupid.
Harrumph.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, stupidest shit ever. It was probably one of my 3 least favourite things about living in Ottawa, and played a part in me not staying there (the Leafs in general being more accessible in London, not just the broadcast thing).
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Being unable to watch a Leaf game on HNIC while visiting someone at Carleton a number of years ago remains my strongest memory of Ottawa. What a horrible city.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Drives me crazy when I as a consumer cannot buy what I want, this is why I don’t feel so bad about downloading things.
For example, cannot get a new release on my Kindle in Canada, going to have to resort to other means. My hands are tied.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
My hands are tied.
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Love it. There’s actually a bid thing going on with downloading TV shows and movies in Australia right now because of this. Basically they are saying they shouldn’t be punished because shit isn’t available there until it’s been out in NA/Europe for weeks or months.
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Mhmm. I’m a content creator myself, and I try to pay for stuff other people try to make a living with, but when I spend 20 minutes searching for a way to pay for something and not finding it, I think the relevant industries need to come up with something more convincing than blaming downloaders. What the hell else are they going to do?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
This. Like I said, I have no issue paying for the e-book. I’m not plunking down $25 for a hardcover.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean it wouldn’t bother me if I didn’t pay good money for my Kindle. The product exists, but I’m not allowed to buy it because of where I live? What is this Communist Russia?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Really? I thought it was because my amazon account is “canadian” or whatever.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I shall try this.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea. I shipped mine to CT and there’s where the billing address is tied to though…
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That’ll do it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the same way. I would love to pay for Leafs Interactive and watch all the games that way, but I’m in Ottawa and it doesn’t work if you’re outside the Leafs broadcast zone, so instead I stream the games online. I would far rather pay for it, but they literally won’t let me. So dumb.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What constitutes the Leafs broadcast region?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s between London and Kingston (approximately). All I know is that I would also pay to watch quality streams (despite massive student debts), but the website won’t let me. They seem to think that by proxy I’m a Sens fan…
/shudders
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
All of Ontario other than the Ottawa region.
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WTF is wrong with me that I didn’t know about Leafs TV Interactive?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you looked into Gamecenter? Quality kicks the crap out of free streams.
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I’m considering it for this season, but paying full price just to watch one team seems like a rip-off.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
yup, it sucks, and i’m pretty sure gamecentre blacks out Leafs games in Ottawa, so I can’t even pay to watch the Leafs. I’m not getting cable, its not going to happen. I’ll keep my 100$ a month thanks, I already give rogers 80$ for the internet.
by Goosemonster on Aug 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. After watching all the Leafs games between TSN CBC and pixelly internet feeds I need some quality
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
Im not sure where you are, I saw you said east coast. I have East Link cable and they black out SN-ontario in standard definition .. but in HD its not. I get Leafs games in HD but not SD. It might be the same for you…
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That’s pretty sweet. When I was in Ottawa I had all the Snet channels in HD but they would black out the Leafs games when they were on.
One cool trick (with rogers at least) is when HNIC is on in Ottawa and the Sens are playing they show the Sens, but you can get like 12 different SD feeds of CBC and they will have the Leafs on some of them.
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HNIC, for me anyway, is Leafs in HD and Sens/Habs in SD. It always says "maritimes, you’ll be watching Montreal/Buffalo (whatever) … but its always the Leafs on CBC HD.
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In Ottawa for me though they would have the Sens game on CBC HD, and I would use one of the other SD feeds to get the Leafs.
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My friend told me this as well. I`m on the east coast too. So they Block out Sportsnet Ontario SD but not Sportsnet Ontario HD?
"Wham...Wham...Kabam...Kabam... A double kabam! And it's a double dion!"
SN ontario SD is only blacked out for Leafs games. Sportsnet HD is never blacked out.
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It used to be blacked out for me on Rogers, or they would show Poker.
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I canceled my cable this summer. Going to rely on LeafsTV online for the first time. Kind of nervous, and really hoping I don’t have to call Rogers back in October.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I realized all I was ever watching on TV was live sports, and that the streaming services from the Leafs, MLB, and the NFL combine for way less than a Rogers package with the channels you’d need to get all of those games. The internet is wonderful.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’d too that too but it would require me to purchase more bandwidth, which harms the savings.
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Yeah, if I were stuck with Rogers or Bell for internet I’d never have been able to do it. Being in an area served by TekSavvy is the best.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i have to call them…I can’t afford the unlimited bandwidth, but for the same price as cogeco I’d get 30gb instead of 10gb
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I hope that’s bandwitdh limits for wireless because if it were wired, that’s brutal.
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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.
for cable, it’s the cheapest option they have
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Wow. A 250gb limit here in the states for Comcast was highly controversial, and they get away with 10 there?
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we can only dream of a 250gb cap
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I bet they still charge 40$ a month there even though the internet is 20x worse. Stupid monopolies.
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You should see it in Quebec, they can’t even let Rogers in to most places so it’s just Bell and Videotron
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i swear cable companies have agreement snot to come into each others territories.
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in Quebec, you can only have so many companies that aren’t owned by quebecers
Therefore, no rogers
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Yeah, I think in Montreal I had like a crazy 30GB cap or something.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, in Burlington there is no Rogers for TV, only crappy Cogeco.
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I’m stuck with that in Kingston now too. Didn’t subscribe last year due to overwhelmingly negative feedback from people who had it. Might cave and do it this year.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s just certain areas. I have Rogers in London but in Burlington it’s only Satellite or Cogeco. I always complain about it to my parents. The quality is the same and menus are okay, but the packages suck.
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I mean, i’d understand if everywhere except the Montreal-Toronto corridor had crap internet (i mean rural america you can still only get dialup)
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ontario Internet access > Quebec Internet access
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Rural Canada too. My folks still had dialup until December.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
didn’t the crtc rule against Bell, Rogers, etc…forcing startups like teksavvy to cap bandwidth?
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thats not against bell
bell/rogers want the other isp’s to have caps
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
nope.
Vice versa, I believe.
Teksavvy uses Bells bandwidth so they ruled it would be unfair for bell customers for them to not cap it.
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CRTC ruled against independents, but the government told them to re-consider, so now they’re re-considering.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
that issue is being pushed aside
open media did a good campagin for it, but now they have sold out and the liberals are using it to send e-mails to the mailing list for the provincial election
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Cable but I split the cost with my roommate and I like watching random movies that come on TV. Most shows that I follow/have to watch I download.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I live with my g/f so it’s easier to have cable with two people paying. We have a PVR too so its good to set up series recordings and such. A lot of times I will have to miss the start of a Leafs game so I record it and catch up during commercials, Intermission.
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Never had PVR but it sounds cool I guess. Not sure if it will survive once TV becomes irrelevent and everything is broadcast via internet.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I like it a lot, even for just taping random stuff like Jeopardy or Man vs. Food to watch when you’re bored. My g/f is in interior design and likes taping HGTV stuff like that because it’s mostly on during the day. Once you have it it’s hard to imaging life without it (sad really).
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Ah, when I was in Ottawa I used LeafsTV interactive but they weren’t blacked out for me because my credit card billing address is still my parents’ address (my permanent address). Maybe they check IP stuff now?
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Blackouts are stupid.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I hated when I would turn on the Leafs game and it would just be black, then rush to get my computer all set up to the TV to watch it on LeafsTV Int.
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Everybody game I watched last year was brought to me via the interwebs. #atdhetvisahellofadrug
by Tickle Me Aulie on Aug 12, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
but, shhhh…. keep a lid on it. Too much publicity = intervention by the courts
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they’ve changed their web address like 4 times in the last yaer.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 12, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I recieved my games from 3 different atdhe sites last year?
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
a lot of them were fake "atdhe"
and just other sites using it to get the hits
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 12, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Eventually they’ll concede/adjust their business strategies. They can’t compete with free information/broadcasting forever.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Im in Wolfville NS for the hockey season and the only thing that has worked for me is Gamecenter. Its 20 bucks a month well spent. If you have a decent internet connection the streams’ quality is outstanding.
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I’m in Halifax, were you able to get all the Leafs games or just those broadcasted regionally by Sportsnet?
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I got em all… unless there were CBC or TSN… it doesnt black out the SN ontario or Leafs TV games.
I dont really need it because as I stated, I get the SN ontario games in HD. So for the dozen or so Leafs TV games I use it.
The main reason I bought it was to watch other games when there is nothing on TV.
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Center ice is totally worth it.
Not so sure about Centre ice though because its 50% more expensive.
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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.
With Gamecenter, if I was to obtain access to a proxy server, could that possibly get me around regional blackouts? (excuse me if this is really stupid, because I have no idea)
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I know how to do it, I just don’t know how advanced the NHL’s proxy trackers are.
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I guess its probably something they’d frown upon
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure. I know Leafs TV interactive states if they catch you watching from outside the proper region they will charge the full season to your visa and then cancel your subscription. Anyone know if they actually check?
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I’m no legal expert, but that doesn’t sound legal to me.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Its legal but it would be against the TOS so they could take punitive measures (for example, billing you for the whole year and cancelling you)
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Just because something is written in a contract doesn’t mean a court will uphold it. Contracts can be (and often are) found to be illegal.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there a difference between gamecentre and centre ice??
I live in ottawa and the leafs games on sportsnet are blacked-out (unless they’re playing the sens)
which one do I need, gamecentre or centre ice, to watch the leafs?
as far as I know gamecentre blocks Leafs games in ottawa when they are playing on the same day (almost always). I could be wrong though…
by Goosemonster on Aug 12, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll take a shot in the dark and say around the beginning of September.
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I actually got a fax at my office yesterday from someone trying to sell Leafs tickets. The person was trying to make a huge profit. My family shares season tickets (not that I get to use them since I’m at school for most of the season in Halifax) and the seats are in the Greens and the person had the starting price of the Purples above that of the Greens. They were basically trying to sell the Purples for double their face value (which IIRC is more than the face value of Greens).
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My mom just forwarded me an ad a guy at her work posted, he has season ticks and is selling about half of them as a package at face value. $85/seat. If I wasn’t a poor student making negative $30k a year I’d be on that like Lebda on the bench.
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package like you need to buy all 21 games?
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Well I’m sure he’d prefer it but would sell them in pieces.
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I would be shocked if that didn’t get sold as a whole in a hurry. That’s an incredible deal.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Just talked to my mom, he is selling them individually. Actually last summer a guy was selling a pair of season ticekts (like you’d become the new season ticket holder) at face value. Apparently because his seats were beside these he had first shot to find someone to take them.
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Not sure for those season tickets last year, but these ones that are available now yes. She’s a police officer and they have like an intranet board where they post these things. They like having other cops buy stuff like this because they know (or at least it’s safe to assume) the purchaser won’t be throwing waffles on the ice or starting drunken brawls.
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I thought Brian McCabe started to go bad when he got put on ice.
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by GreatKingRat on Aug 12, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s easy (and fun!) to make fun of McCabe, but seriously – all these cap floor teams are so deep on D they couldn’t use McCabe to reach the cap floor? PHX, NYI, COL? Or Hannan even.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe Hannan’s out of work. It has to be too high demands, right?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the want more than one year deals so they get paid if there is a lockout?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
In a report by USA Today, Leafs GM Brian Burke says Matthew Lombardi (concussion) is telling the team that he’ll be at training camp.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Even if it's non-contact drills only, that's way better than I expected when the trade went down.
They are saying he could be cleared to play by October. We might actually get a player other than Franson from this Lebda deal. Not setting expectations very high after that kind of injury though. Half the time players just aren’t the same. He is speedy though.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
If he can tie his own skates by the end of his current contract I’ll consider it a bonus. If he actually plays, even better.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Lombo plays the wing? Then it’s poor Kadri.
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poor Bozak nothing.
If he can play better than Lombardi then he’ll earn his playing time.
If not than it’s not the worst thing to have 3 centers better than Bozak.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
And Dupuis and Boyce, but whatever. Earn your ice time, especially bottom 6ers. Very little sympathy for them.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So some of you have coached/reffed/had kids in hockey..my guy starts a hockey school this winter, are reports of jackass parents in the stands making things sound worse than they are, or are they pretty much everywhere?
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Most arenas have at least a couple of helicopter parents. Plenty of variance on how bad they are though.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It varies from location to location. Traveling with my team for the last two years we’ve been in barns where the parents are fantastic. Other rinks, the parents are batshit crazy. Once at a tournament I left the bench and walked into the stands to tell a woman to either zip it or I’d get the rink manager to throw her out.
But don’t let that be a deterrent for you. In my experience, the behavior of a team falls squarely upon the coach. We set rules and guidelines at the beginning of the season that any parents guilty of “rink rage” would be excused from the game, and any subsequent violations they’d be gone for good. A lot of the rinks have the same policy.
There will always be crazies, usually alone at first. You just need to nip them in the bud before it spreads to the rest of the parents, so don’t be afraid to talk to the coaches about parents who are being ridiculous and let them handle it from a point of authority. If they refuse, bump it up to the league’s committee.
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yeah, I’m not much of a people person to begin with, and most other parents I hate immedietly (since they can spell better than me).
I’m just worried about popping on in the nose, or the kid not enjoying himself, but I’m a worrier, so we’ll see how it goes.
i jsut hope I don’t end up in that position..i can’t even play angry birds with him without over instructing.
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If you feel like you’d be susceptible to hovering, an easy solution to that is that once he hits the ice, go grab a coffee and the paper and simple leave him be. That way you can ask him how it went and he’ll do all the talking; instead of the other way around where you’d have seen everything and perhaps be prone to give pointers. Plus you don’t want your kid being the wuss who looks up to the stands to whine to his parents every time he falls down do you? If you don’t provide him that out (and the coaches certainly won’t) then he’ll learn to just pick himself back up and get on with practice.
Through experience I’ve learned that the kids who worked the hardest and were the best to be around were the ones whose parents I never saw while we were on the ice. To a coach, parents are nothing more than a needless distraction. :P
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My hometown’s arena was flirting with banning parents about ten years ago. You ever run into a place that actually does that?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
For practices, yes. For games I’ve seen it threatened, but never implemented. Though I have read stories about teams forced to play in empty rinks because of bad parent behavior.
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the rink i played in in Burlington banned certain spectators from adult league games, so i assume they’d do it for kids games.
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I’ve never had that happen in Burlington, but I also haven’t played in a Burlington men’s league for 3 years.
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hmm..maybe it was just my league that got the rink to agree to it, or i heard wrong and am stating it as fact
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Maybe it was the league. Generally when I played it would just be a few wives/girlfriends in the stands. My g/f would usually come and bring a friend along or something to talk to.
We actually had a girl on our team one year who brought her g/f all the time and she tried to fight a guy who was kicked out for fighting (fighting the girl), but other than that there was never really an issue.
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our issue was some of the boyfriends of the girls playing. one guy was bitching at her teammates for not giving her the puck enough to the point where he was physically removed from the building by his girlfriend.
poor girlv was so embarassed
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my borhter-in-law coached and he said the same thing. After thinking about what you said that’d probably be the best thing to do, since we can’t go anywhere without him wanting me to do verything right at his side.
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i wish i had my own experiences to go off of, but I quit hockey after 3 practises my first year and didn’t play again for 20 years
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The baseball game was – surprise – brutal yesterday. What a boring sport. Thankfully we had seats in the first row on the lower level, so we were able to entertain ourselves by heckling the right fielders.
DeJesus was throwing a ball back and forth with the ball boy in between innings, right toward the crowd. All of a sudden one gets away from him and the ball goes rifling into the crowd and cracks a woman in the melon. We were all over him after that.
Congratulations Tomas!
Which melon?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Shame, I find honeydew more refreshing
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
they both suck
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the 80's drafts
and the worst draft day decision in Leafs history, not drafting Joe Sakic. Still kills me.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He went 15th… It’s not like he went right after us. Hindsight is 20/20, isn’t it
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Rocco Grimaldi is going to come back to haunt us.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
We probably have at least 20 years before he’s dead enough to haunt us.
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He doesn’t drink, probably 50-60
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, pretty sure he and Rimer will be saved when the Rapture comes.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
ARGH Reimer*
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
If only we’d taken Filitov instead of Schenn, argh
Stupid Leafs
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
It pains me to say it, but I think Filitov could have a bounce back year with the Sens. At the very least it was a low risk, high reward move on their part.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. I can’t believe he didn’t fetch more than a 3rd from someone.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
For a 3rd round pick, sure, great move for OTT.
As 7th overall?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, he was undoubtedly drafted way too high. I think he was one of the those players who was way overhyped going into the draft, and the 7th overall selection reflected that. Of course, hindsight makes us all draft day geniuses.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, he was undoubtedly drafted way too high
He was very highly touted by everyone. COlumbus fucked up with him tho
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It’s hard to say whether or not Columbus completely destroyed his development, or he just plain flopped. Probably a combination of both.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking at how poorly Columbus’ high picks turn out (except Rick Nash), I can’t help but think CLB had something to do with impeding his development.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s also produced pretty well in extremely limited minutes.
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6 goals in 44 games is producing pretty well?
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Average of 10 minutes on ice per game. At 20 minutes per game that’s something like 6 goals in his first 22 games or a 24 goal pace as a 20 year old.
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Even if that’s the case and the TOI was the coach’s fault (instead of him playing like crap and not deserving the minutes)
Last year
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9G, 20 points in 36 games in the A.
I think “producing well” is a reach. He’s still worth a 3rd round pick for sure that he will pick it up.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Coming from Russia to the States is clearly a big adjustment for a kid. He’s 20 and has shown some pretty decent indicators so far.
Do I think he’s the next Ovechkin? No. I’d have traded one of our late 1sts this year for him.
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Hmm I don’t think I would have, but this year we’ll have to see if a change in environment does him well.
Not that we exactly hit it out of the park with what we did with our late 1sts but meh.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s very unusual for anyone to hit it out of the park with a late 1st. The labeling of a pick as 1st round makes fans think crazy things about it sometimes.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think I’d rather roll the dice on the ~15-20% chance a late 1st turns into a useful player than that ~15%-20% chance that Filatov turns it around.
Move those figures around however you please, but obviously the landscape changes if you replace “1st round pick” with “3rd round pick”.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Your own valuation of the pick’s chances matches your own valuation of Filatov’s chances, but you wouldn’t consider that a reasonable trade?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh whatever all I’m trying to say is I wouldn’t trade a 1st.
Fuck the %s I gave, they were examples.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure Filatov’s chance of turning it around is as low as 15-20%, considering his production relative to his ice time. The difference, though, is that a late first would remain cost controlled.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally don't think he will turn it around but I understand why others do. It's definitely worth the risk for the 3rd.
Not sure it would have been the risk for a 1st.
The 1st round pick “success” may also be higher for Biggs/Percy as I think the standard pick “success” definition is plays a # number of games. By going for the lower risk/lower reward pick, we may indeed get a 3rd liner that plays a lot of games, thus considering it a “success”
Filatov is a lot more low-risk (as a 3rd round pick, not as #6 overall)/high reward.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s the key. He’s still only 20. He has a lot of hockey left in him. Just because he hasn’t performed as of yet doesn’t mean he never will.
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You can say whatever you want if he got that ice time. Fact is, he has 6 goals in 44 games. Even if he had 20 minutes a night, there is no way of knowing he would doubled his goal total
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didn’t he get a hattrick in his first game? or am I misremembering
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Fabian Brunnstrom did, I know that. Look how that turned out!
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit that’s right! His future presently looks a little brighter.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, it wasn’t in his first game, but he did get a hattrick, so of those 6 goals, 3 of them came in one game.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah 14 other teams might want that one back, too.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Meh. Turgeon and Shanahan aren’t bad picks.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
But yeah
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah more so “not sweet fuck all you can do anyways” applies to this one.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I don’t care what happened in a draft 25 years ago, to be honest. My parents hadn’t even met.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Might as well start bitching about trading the pick used on Scott Niedermayer for Tom Kurvers.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, next four picks at defense were: Bryan Fogarty, Jay More, Yves Racine, Dean Chynoweth.
And those four didn’t even play as many games as Luke Richardson who the leafs actually picked.
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Question from an internet streaming stupid person:
I spend the majority of the season in Kingston. I take it this means I am within the Leaf’s broadcasting region. This means I can order Leafs TV interactive? And what does this give me access to? Why don’t I already know the answers to these questions?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
Kingston might be considered Ottawa broadcasting region
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You can get LeafsTV and LeafsTV Interactive anywhere in Ontario other than the Ottawa Valley.
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Does Leafs TV interactive basically give me every game broadcast by either Sportsnet and Leafs TV?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I had it a few years back, and it had everything other than CBC, I believe.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
The first year I had it (07-08) it had TSN, but by my last year there (09-10) it was only Sportsnet and LeafsTV.
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Well that hopefully solves alot of my problems. Thanks guys.
I can probably manage without the handful of TSN games (they don’t broadcast as many, do they?)
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
They are national broadcasts so you get them on TV anyways. You can always go to a bar.
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Yeah I’m trying to to avoid getting cable altogether.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t had cable for years. Other than easy access to hockey/football, I don’t miss it.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don’t miss cable at all save for sports.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem with Kingston Bars is all the bloody Sens and Habs fans stumbling about trying to remember where they forgot their brains.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol, is it really that bad? In Ottawa around the school when i’d go to watch games it would be generally Leafs fans there if Ottawa wasn’t playing, or a pretty even split if Ottawa was.
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Lol its not really that bad. I had just become accustomed to going to Paupers in Toronto, where other team’s fans were not exactly treated like royalty. I remember being at one game where a guy in a Sens jersey walked in, and someone yelled out “order this guy a salad and a diet coke!”
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Toronto bars lost all credibility for fandom during the Habs’ playoff run two years ago. Fucking disgraceful shows of support for the enemy.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I was out of there by then. Was it really that bad?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Brutal. I’ve watched games at bars in Montreal with less enthusiastic Hab support.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s awful. I remember that Habs playoff run increasing my hatred for that franchise, not the other way around.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol, yeah but that’s a totally different situation. I would assume Kingston is mostly a Leafs town so you’d still be the majority. In Ottawa Leafs fans are a sizeable minority so they are used to us being everywhere.
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It is predominately a Leafs town yeah. That said, there are an awful lot of those other people around and I’d just rather they weren’t. lol
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing in Ottawa I really liked was when I’d pass someone in a Sens jersey on the street I’d always make deadpan comments like “whoa, did you realize someone threw up on the front of your shirt” and stuff like that.
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Haha that’s great. It would be nice to have those kinds of opportunities more often.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
ALmost got into a scrap with a guy in high school over a Sens jersey. I laughed at them and walked away
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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That’s because Sens fans aren’t old enough to drink yet.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Nice.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
How’s that? They’re the new Oilers. They’ll be sucking our balls for the next 3-4 years minimum, and that’s if they get everything right.
The specific jokes about them not having been around long enough to have adult fans have a shelf life though.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not. Or at least it wasn’t when I lived there 12 years ago.
/suddenlyfeelsold
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
can you e-mail the people at Leafs TV about it?
I’;ve found customer service at MLSE operatiosn to be pretty good.
I had a question about a tickets for a game at the ACC, sent an e-mail and got a phone call back the same day.
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I just may try that. Thanks for the tip
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Living in Ottawa does suck in terms of lack of legitimate ways to watch the Leafs, but I also get to go to Sens-Leafs games and make fun of Sens fans directly. I went last year for the last game (3rd or 4th last for the Leafs) where we won 4-2 I believe. Either way, 60% of the crowd were Leafs fans, it was amazing. Makes up for not having been to the ACC in years (since before the lockout). I remember a few years back I saw a guy at Scotiabank place wearing a Leafs jersey, and his girlfriend was wearing a Sens jersey. I turned to my friend and said “man, I wouldn’t let my girlfriend be a Sens fan” and the guy turned around with a sad face and was like “I don’t have a choice”. But you always have a choice.
My girlfriend is a Sens fan, so I share that guy’s pain :(
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
My fiancee likes the Leafs because I like the Leafs. Bought her a Kessel jersey for her Bday.
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My wife started that way, now she loves the Leafs and Schenn in particular. Got her a girl-cut Schenn jersey, which is both awesome and adorable. It took years, but I fully converted her.
by Goosemonster on Aug 12, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Last season I watched 90% of the games because, she would read or do her nails during the games. It was awesome
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Well done. My girlfriend almost (key word) hates the Leafs as much as I hate the Sens, so she’s pretty much a lost cause.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s horrible. I couldn’t do that. My friends at school jokingly tease me about being such a big Leafs fan, and one time they asked if I’d dump my g/f if she became a Sens fan. The answer was obvious and I even told my girlfriend about it, her response was something like “good, I’d deserve it if I cheered for the dirty Sens”.
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Haha, I have instant respect for your girlfriend. I’m going to tell my girlfriend that this is the sane/rational way to think.
by LeaferinOttawa on Aug 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, nah, but when I do I will mention her support in my irrational Leafs fandom as part of the proposal.
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My GF wears my 1993 Gilmour jersey from when i was 7 years old. Instantly turned on, although at leaf games people think she’s a better fan than I am wearing my Gary Roberts jersey haha
Gary Roberts is a hero. Do people forget the year he carried the team to the conference finals?
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s the clear hipster choice
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is really close to being ruined for me.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
My g/f is the same way. She never really watched hockey until I came around and now she likes watching the Leafs with me. I took her to a Leafs game in Ottawa a few years ago and got her a kids Leafs practice jersey for $30.
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Same with my g/f. She didn’t really watch hockey before we got together, but now she comes to see games live with me.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah exactly. I’ve only taken her once but that’s because she understands that I’d rather go with a friend/friends or my brother.
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Yeah I’ve gone without her too, but this past season I took a lot of time to explain the penalties (she kind of understood them before but not really), systems, players on the leafs (their playing history, etc.) prospects. She’s excited to see a game in Ottawa this year before we move to D.C. in 2012 – hopefully I can get to a game there as well.
by Goosemonster on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
in 2012
I’m sure if the world is still around you’ll find the time to go.
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by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Matthew Lombardi will participate in training camp.
Good news for the Toronto Maple Leafs as Matthew Lombardi will attend training camp. Can’t imagine they’d let him jump right back in after missing pretty well all of last season with a concussion but I’d think it’ll be ‘kid gloves’ with Lombardi for a period of time. If he’s healthy and no longer feeling the effects of his concussion, Phil Kessel may finally have a playmaking centre who can keep up with his speed.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/08/12/the_sheet_respect/
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I liked his crack about Barclay Donaldson in the Puck Daddy Guilty Pleasures interview he did.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Phil Kessel may finally have a playmaking centre who can keep up with his speed.
Hang on, what? Is Lombardi really a first line capable center when (if) healthy? His career high was a 56 point pace, and only once in his career.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
analyzing this right now, gimme a few
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If he’s ready to play you’d have to imagine they at least experiment with them together in camp.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
where does Connolly fit in then? I would think Connolly gets first shot until he’s injured, then move up lombardi.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
On the LTIR?
I expect them to try out a bunch of options, which is sensible.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I’d expect it to be the $4.75M FA signing that gets first shot with Kessel rather than the 2nd half on our return for LEBDA
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Sunk costs shouldn’t affect coaching decisions.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why hopefully this year Mike Komisarek’s new moniker becomes “Pressbox”
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
My prediction is that we’ll see insane amounts of him in the preseason in an attempt to justify giving him a chance to turn it around for real. Has to be a chihuahua leash though.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Komisarek always seems like that guy who gets burned for trying to do too much, or did at least when he used to get minutes.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah this ties into the debate we had over whether his problem was being asked to do too much, or whether he simply was trying to do too much regardless of his role.
Or whether he just isn’t good at hockey regardless.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what prompted his decline and I’ve given up on trying to understand. If he ever remembers how to play hockey, that’s super.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. If he can play, give him whatever ice time he needs to contribute. If not, press box.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He stills hits a lot and blocks a lot of shots, which is what he was primarily known for. He just doesn’t seem to have very good hockey sense. He also takes way too many penalties.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s his hockey sense that upsets me the most. Or what I percieve as his lack of hockey sense.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s had brutal positioning and constantly been a step behind since he got here. I don’t get it.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Or whether he just isn’t good at hockey regardless.
Nailed it.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
we have a lot of good ideas on this website that have no relevance in reality
what should affect this coaching decision is the fact that connolly is far better at hockey
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Setting lines isn’t just a depth chart though. Kessel and Lombardi seem like stylistically compatible players. It’s worth at least finding out if that’s an idea that will pay rent or not.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree it definitely can’t hurt to see if it works. But then what will we do with Connolly?
The best part about this “problem” is that if Connolly goes down with injury, we actually have 3 other NHL-calibre centres to test with Kessel
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If Connolly ends up on a lower line than we expected and it’s because someone pushed him down (as opposed to him blowing it), that’s a good thing.
I still kind of think we’ll be lucky if Connolly’s and Lombardi’s GP together hits 82.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I agree with that, based on the limited amount of time I’ve watched Lombardi/Connolly play on other teams. Connolly has both shooting and passing ability, he’s very shifty. Lombardi is just a speedster who seems to take scoring chances on his own because he beats defenders for clear breaks to the net. Although having Kessel flying right alongside him might generate a ton of odd man rushes thanks to the speed.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think, given Lombardi’s speed you put him on the third line as such:
Kadri – Lombardi – Armstrong.
Three guys who can score in a sheltered role. Two guys who are a little dirty (Armstrong, Kadri) two guys who’ve got some wheels (Kadri, Lombardi).
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Orr-Bozak-Brown as 4th line, Bozak gets some PK time maybe
It’ll all be fluid, but if all our Cs are halthy that sounds about right.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Kadri’s skating was not that great last season. Not only did he not look fast, he even looked slow at times. Perhaps it was the added weight from last summer, but he really needed to do some work on his acceleration.
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Bingo.
Need more explosiveness. Was really underwhelmed by his skating.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
which was quite the change from his rookie training camp, because he had way more jump in September ’09.
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It was almost for sure due to his desperation to pack on weight to make the team.
I think he mentioned that in an interview this summer, that he was trying to change his workout to focus less on weight gain and more on speed.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Kadri will impress this season.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If Lombardi is healthy, I think he either takes Kadri’s spot with Kadri going to the AHL, or someone gets traded.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Lombardi does have some experience at wing. I think we’d be more likely to see Lombardi-Bozak-Armstrong, with Kadri in the AHL alongside Colborne than Kadri-Lombardi-Armstrong, with Bozak on the fourth line.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So many penalties drawn.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to get Colby Armstrong mic’d up for a game to get some idea of what it is he does that makes literally every player who ever takes a shift against him want to cut his head off.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So many swears.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably has fergus feeding him YOUR MOM jokes.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No he’s GOOD at what he does
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ya and so is your mom
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet he uses a lot of run-on sentences.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
im still kinda sad that when he had the eyepatch he didnt give an interview in a pirate voice
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
someone
could find the video and dub it… couldn’t they?
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but that wouldn’t be as funny
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If only we knew someone with some audio post skills…
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think NSH thought so when they signed him.
Our options are between Tim “the LTIR” Connolly, Tyler “over his head” Bozak, and Matthew “where am I” Lombardi
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Always nice to have options?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Kadri surprises us all and goes buck wild as Kessel’s centreman. Not knowing is half the fun!
But know is half the battle. So I guess not knowing and you’ve already lost 1/2 of a battle.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess that depends on whether you’re looking to have some fun, or to win a battle. But if you’re fine with a draw, then not knowing is probably best?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Regarding the “can keep up with his speed” – here are a couple videos highlighting his speed.
Connolly is no slouch himself. Assuming Lombardi recovers from the concussion well, Lombardi-Connolly-Kessel could be a pretty terrifying line on the rush.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the rush that worries me with that line, it's maintaining possession against a checking line
Grabbo/Kulemin/Mac are great along the boards… not so sure about Lupul-Connolly-Kessel.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh they’d be absolutely abysmal along the boards. But I don’t think Lupul-Connolly-Kessel would be much better, so we’re probably best off maximizing what they are good at.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a lot of people want to hear it but I feel there is a good chance that Kulemin-Grabbo-Kessel ends up as a line for at least part of the year.
That line would be great, but Lupul-Connolly-Mac… not as much.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh. We’ve tried that line before. It isn’t great. It’s even worse when it puts two of our most proven threats on the same line, for people to line match against.
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by Bower Power on Aug 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It really wasn’t tried that much last year because MGK worked out so well so quickly.
The year before a bit, but that was before Grabbo and Kulemin both broke out offensively.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Kulie-Grabbo-Kessel were a solid combo at times last year. It let Kessel show off some of the slick playmaking ability he didn’t get much chance to use with Bozak/Crabb.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Connolly >> Bozak
Lupul >>> Crabb
Keeping:
Lupul-Connolly-Kessel
Kulemin-Grabovski-MacArthur means we have two legitmate threats. If teams linematch against MGK then that Kessel line is going to run wild. If teams line match Kessel then MGK goes nuts.
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Oh I definitely agree, but depending on how the season plays out, especially on the injury front, it might not be a bad option at some point.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d bet money on Connolly being much more durable this year than people are giving him credit for
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL.com article I posted below, where he gives all the right answers. If he can keep up with kessel, it should be an exciting line.
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with 70 games of Connolly that line scores 75 goals
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m definitely going to win the Price is Right bet.
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what bet is that?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
you do a podcast?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats that?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
closest
without going over?
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct. and PPP guessed Connolly would play something like 90 games over two seasons. mf37 said 100 so I went 101.
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“What was the last bid Bob? 420.”
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For the life of me I can’t remember how well Connolly-CMac worked in Buffalo.
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But that would be breaking up MGK :(
DId they play together? Probably not that well if they let MacA go…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They had to have played together for no less than 60 games, which means they were on the same line probably 300 minutes or so giving Lindy’s top-six line blendering.
They might have played on the same PP unit too: C-Mac played on the second PP unit but sometimes Connolly played both units.
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Looks like he played with Connolly the second half of the 08-09 season and… not much else.
Also occassionally on the PP.
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Tim Connolly hasn’t even played a game yet and POOF….gone.
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Third highest paid player on the team and you’re already demoting him.
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Part of Leaf fandom is finding reasons to be disappointed in players before they’ve even played a game.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's healthy...
Oh boy!
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Six Teams that made the Wrong moves this offseason
Toronto – The Maple Leafs are putting a whole lot of eggs in the James Reimer basket, aren’t they? Brian Burke warned Reimer of the dangers of being a one-hit wonder goalie, but all the motivational ploys in the world can’t change the fact that Reimer has only played 37 games in his career. It’s not the worst gamble on this list, but Burke won’t hear the end of it if Reimer falls flat.
Not sure i’d call it the “wrong move” – but what other choice did we have? Sign sub 0.900 Giguere to another contract? Somehow convince Vokoun to sign here instead of WSH? Send another potential lottary 1st for Varlamov?
I thought given our options, Leafs had a pretty damn good offseason. Tried to land (but didn’t superoverpay in the offer) B. Richards, I’m not terribly happy about the Connolly signing, but Franson + Lombardi for Lebda, and Liles for a 2nd certainly were good moves. Draft wasn’t a homerun but it’ll be a few years before anyone knows how that turned out.
Reimer is a risk and Gustavsson could very well be a disaster… but hey Nail Yakupov is looking good for the 2012 draft, no?
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I only later realized after re-reading that it was specifying only goaltending, but the point is the same. What goalie move should we have made instead?
I liked CHI inviting Emery to camp (we should have done that) but Burke seems to be committed to this building from the net out internally thing, with Scrivens and Rynnas chillin in the A and Monster on a short leash. Oh plus that rapping Swedish kid, but he’s only 21.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked Yerdon the same thing. Reimer and Gustavsson ARE untested but what’s the alternative?
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Clearly the Flyers are the model we should be following. They have Brayden Schenn AND Bryzgalov!!!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t have minded cheap 1 year offers to a couple of guys to push Reimer, but there aren’t many I’d have been interested in for that role, and who knows if they’d take a single cheap year.
I’d like our goaltending situation to be something other than what it is, but it’s tough to complain about relative to the realistic alternatives.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Emery is the only guy I’d have been interested in offerring a contract to. We’re still a young, rebuilding team, and there’s no reason not to give our young goalies a shot.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
there’s no reason not to give our young goalies a shot.
Now that we have our own 1st round pick you mean.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So when Varlamov has a slightly-above-average season and Washington gets the 1st overall pick, will people rail on that deal like they have against the Kessel deal? My guess is no.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people already are, but clearly it won't be nearly as overblown.
Or after such a bad season, he heads to the KHL? Oh man that’d be bad. Imagine what Stastny’s dad would say!
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Varlamov has put up .924, .918 and .909 in the NHL. Above average would be around .920 (average is .917) and that might keep them out of Nail territory.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
People will only rail on it in relation to the Kessel deal, as in “hey remember when the Laffs did that stupid trade for Kessle and gave up a lottary pick?”
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless we could have gotten Vokoun for $1.5M (which I don’t think we could have), not doing anything was as good a move as any.
Anyone sad we missed out on Mega-millionaire Bryzgalov contract or the Varlamov trade? No?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray Emery!
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Already mentioned that one…. I think Burke should have gone for him rather than believing in Gustavsson but we really gotta hope for a rebound there.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
As all the goalie spots seem to be filled Emery might be available a couple dozen games in.
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I’m surprised CHI didnt up and give him a contract, I have to think he can outplay Salak for a backup job.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, i mean FLORIDA loaned him to Sweden because they couldn’t even fit him on the Amerks.
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Gotta wonder as well what kind of factor Wilson’s short leash will be on the goaltending decisions. I think Wilson has to prove he should get to keep his job by the end of December. If the goaltending craps out, is that his fault? Does it change things?
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t matter if Wilson craps out, at least we have already hired a possible replacement in Flash if shit hits the fan and BB has to fire his buddy Ron.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah I forgot about that guy. I hope he turns out better than the last time we had a guy “in the wings” *ahem Paul Maurice
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We win:
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Also
while Reimer/Gustavsson is clearly unproven and could easily fail, how is Crawford/Salak not a risk? I don’t see Emery having a problem getting a backup job there.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford now has a full season as a starter on his resume. Until Reimer plays a full year I think questions about his credibility are perfectly valid
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Full season = 20 more games, 21 more career games than Reimer.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He also took the Canucks to 7 games in the playoffs. His performance in that series earned him a lot of credit I think
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Sample Size bias… but yes. Clutchosity is a tough thing to measure.
CHI has a pretty damn good defense.
Just saying a lot of people say Crawford is “proven” and Reimer is “not” because of 20 more games (+ playoffs, forgot about those) and he’s 3 years older. His numbers are statistically worse from a sv% standpoint.
I’m not saying Reimer should be considered proven, I think Crawford should also be considered unproven.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as I’m concerned unless a goalie can maintain the same level of play for at least two seasons he’s Jim Carey Steve Mason.
That said, Crawford in my eyes does have a wider body of work than Reimer does at this point.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And yes two seasons is arbitrary.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
599 shots’ difference. Is that a significantly wider body of work than Reimer?
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He’s spent a full year in the NHL and at least another as a backup. Crawford doesn’t have the games played yet but I think being in the show does make a difference.
I’m not trying to disparage Reimer or anything. And Crawford is not exactly light years ahead either. It’s not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So the major difference is that Crawford was riding pine while Reimer was seeing shots in the AHL?
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I really don’t think this is worth getting worked up over.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
who’s getting worked up?
also see: WAYFO?
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This is not directed at you specifically but I’m just tired of the constant semantic arguments here.
Is someone ahead? Well is he “significantly” ahead? Ahead “by a wide margin”? Semantics.
Reimer has spent half a season in the NHL, playing with a team that was out of the playoffs the entire time.
Crawford has been playing games in the NHL off and on since 2005-2006. He’s spent seasons as a backup at the NHL level, practicing and playing with NHL players.
Sure, he didn’t get a chance till last year. But the sum total of his life experiences? I think when there’s a 3 year gap there’s a difference.
Now is that a “significant” difference? Is that a “wide” difference? Is that a “major” difference? I don’t know and I’m not going to bother trying to put those on a sliding scale.
It’s really not that big a deal.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s spent seasons as a backup at the NHL level, practicing and playing with NHL players.
09-10: 45 AHL regular season starts.
08-09: 47 AHL regular season starts.
07-08: 55 AHL regular season starts.
I get your point (and see below about 824 shots rather than 599), but he didn’t spend all that much time up with the Hawks. And even if he did, I just dunno that I would include it much beyond “he practiced with them.” Which sure, can’t hurt, but doesn’t really make him a more proven prospect.
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Yeah considering I don’t really know (and won’t bother) trying to quantify what a “proven” prospect is versus an “unproven” prospect, I’m not going to go out of my way to disagree with you.
Besides, once a prospect is “proven” aren’t they no longer a prospect?
Oh wait, what’s a prospect? #canofworms
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wait, what’s a prospect? #canofworms
Funny enough: It’s been done.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
that’s a pretty significant Difference… unless you think the league adjustment numbers are meaningless.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s one thing if he were getting starts spread out over that time, but 2, 5, and 1? When at least one of those first and second season games weren’t even complete games?
Crawford did fine in the AHL when he wasn’t being on the bench in Chicago (which was a considerably higher number of starts than Reimer had, given Reimer’s concussion), but I hardly think that Reimer’s time backing up Gustavsson in November makes a difference in his performance today. Similarly, I don’t think Crawford’s 8 games over 3 seasons make him a more stable prospect/player today.
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no
but he did play way more games this past season… don’t forget the playoffs.
I don’t really think one is vastly superior so I’m not arguing in favour of Crawford… I just do think there’s a big distinction playing in the NHL… even practicing regularly against NHL players is a big difference.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right – I forgot to add in the playoffs SA and GP. Total is 27 games and 824 SA, which, as they’re both still under 3,000 and 2 seasons as a starter, I’d say doesn’t leave Crawford as “dependable” or “proven,” but I could start to see “more proven.”
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yeah
I don’t really think of it as even more “proven”… I just think he’s significantly more experienced at the NHL level right now.
More practice time, more game time, more playoff time, etc. He’s not 100% ahead of Reimer by any stretch, and a lot of that has to do with where Reimer is at. That being said, he’s DEFINITIVELY more experienced in the NHL right now.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt statistically significant
If Crawford fails next year more people will be shocked than if Reimer does, because Crawford is seen as more “proven”.
Even in the A, Reimer outperformed him (0.917 vs .907) And yes I know AHL is a different animal than NHL (Reimer .920 vs Crawford .917)
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford
played almost twice as many NHL games last year.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that it explains anything, but it would help Crawford if Chicago didn’t dress two lines of minimum wage players.
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but I’m sure its helpful that Chicago dresses two of the most dangerous lines in the NHL and one of the best D corps.
Seriously?
Stalberg – Toews – Kane
Hossa – Sharp – Frolik
Keith – Seabrook
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is playing on the top line ahead of Stalberg.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
unless
they brought him in to play slow and shitty d on their 3rd/4th line.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Those minimum wage players
are all relatively young… but yeah it’d be a step in the right direction.
Right now their bottom 6 include:
Olesz, Stalberg, Frolik, Carcillo, Mayers, Bickell… that isn’t THAT shitty a group.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that's assuming the top 6
is Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Brunette, and Bolland…
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand, their defense didn’t look too good against Vancouver.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, its much better this year.
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a 4th line
of Mayers, Bickell, and Carcillo is kinda crappy defensively… but they’ll piss people off a lot.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Olesz
Frolik and Stalberg is a good 3rd line option though… who the hell plays C though I have no idea.
I guess Bickell and Mayers are both C’s so they’ll likely mix the bottom 6 up more. Maybe it’ll be Bickell, Stalberg, and Frolik with Mayers, Olesz, and Carcillo… or something.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
stalberg and frolik are extremely effective for the TOI they get
Mayers and Carcillo have specific roles, and Bickell is a typical bottom line guy
exactly
Crawford will be fine… the team is still very solid.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
In my eyes, Kyle Wellwood has a wider body of work than anyone else in the NHL.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The workload that Reimer took in the back half of last season was freakin insane, and he didn’t show any signs of slowing down. The 600 career shots against difference between Crawford and Reimer is not good enough to say “well, Reimer’s unproven, but Crawford dependable.”
The reason Crawford/Salak isn’t a risk, is because Chicago gave Emery a tryout contract. They’re insulating against that risk by adding a third contender, which seems to be what that piece is loosely about.
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They have until Oct 1 to sign him. If they don’t, he will be UFA again. If they sign him I take back what I said as I think Crawford/Emery is much safer than Crawford/Salak
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If they don’t sign Emery, it’s because Salak outplayed him. Salak is a fine prospect.
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Sure, but even more unproven as well.
Again I’m just saying I don’t think CHI’s goaltending has proven shit beyond any reasonable sample size.
Neither has TOR’s.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s also the matter of Chicago being almost certain to allow fewer shots than Toronto, making their goaltending uncertainty less potentially hazardous.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I would gladly trade our top 6 D for Chicago’s.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
After Keith and Seabrook, they are extremely mediocre on the blue line. I think in a few years, Schenn will be a good comparable to Seabrook today.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but their top 2 is much better than our top 2 (debatable who our top 2 actually is). Would it be worth flipping all six to get the first two?
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Schenn is pretty much comparable to a young Seabrook as we’ve already established, so I’m not so sure it is worth it.
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Duncan Keith is dicknasty good.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No question. But he’s also a couple years older than Phaneuf. And we’d be losing Schenn, Aulie, Gunnarsson who all have good upside.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
comparable
to Seabrook at the same age (for last year) prior to that Seabrook was better… and probably has more offensive game.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Schenn has played on worse teams has he not?
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yes and no
when Seabrook entered the NHL Chicago was shit.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
in 2005-06
when he was 21 and a rookie, Chicago finished 26-43-13 with 65 points. that’s pretty horrible.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Remind me: what were Seabrook’s even strength goals/poitns per 60 stats for that season? I don’t have the data with me right now.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
in 2006-07
when he was 22 (comparable season to Schenn) he was on a Hawks team that was 31-42-9 and had 71 points… still shitty.
When he was a rookie he had 32 points in only 65 games, far better than Schenn’s 21 year old output. He did better on an actually WORSE team at the same age.
So yeah, Seabrook has more offensive skill methinks.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
year 3
was when they started to get better.
He was 22… I’m high on the ages year by year btw… it was 20 in the first year, 21 in year two, and 22 in year 3…
anyways where was I… oh yeah he had 9 goals and 23 assists for 32 points in 82 games, and the team went 40-34-8 for 88 points and still didn’t make the playoffs.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
no
2007-08
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he was
20-21-22 in 2005-06, 06-07, and 07-08
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
so wait, you’re saying every season he got older?
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so much
for ignoring me… whassat?
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you sound disappointed that i’m actually not giving you that much thought, one way or the other.
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I'm disappointed?
it’s like picking at scabs… if that’s disappointment then I guess?
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t understand all these advanced statistics.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
All these fucking nerds telling me that your age is dependent on the year, as if that’s the only thing that matters. Just watch the fucking kid grow.
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you don’t even watch the calendar, do you?
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by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
and he had
32 points in 69 (not 65… I’m drinking wine in France right now so bear with me)… as a 20 year old… he has more offensive game than Schenn… is all I’m saying.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay so checking the stats, Seabrook did get more offensive zone starts albeit against relatively tougher competition.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're
very comparable at 21… but at 20 Seabrook was superior offensively in particular.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and the teams
are more comparable than you’d expect.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What about PP time? Schenn got virtually none, which is why I’m more interested in ESG/ESP per 60.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a quick glance tells me that they might have identical even strength goal stats.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
right
but why is Schenn not getting PP time? why is Seabrook getting PP time?
I think this still speaks to Seabrook’s offensive game being ahead of Schenn’s.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be. Schenn has struggled with getting a good, quick release.
I think he should have gotten more PP time to at least see what he was able to do. Of course, I have no idea what happens in practise, so…
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
his shot is pretty not so good… so … yeah I’m fine with him NOT being on the PP…
his lateral foot speed isn’t great for walking the line on the point either, so it’s ok with me that he’s killing penalties.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with you but I would still like to see what he’s capable of. Now, of course, I don’t think he has any chance of making the cut.
The point is that at even strength, I think Seabrook is an excellent comparable.
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That kind of progression is unsustainable, he’ll likely regress to the mean soon enough.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
next year is, 24/ last year was 22
it’s 23! 23! everyone knows he’s 23!
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN
The Leafs are my Rushmore
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Best part of this whole thread is that it’s Friday.
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Fuck, why am I on youtube listening to that song? Thanks guys.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you could
move on to her new single!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear she dropped out of school because of bullying
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. As bad as her songs are, that’s uncalled for.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah some of the more hateful stuff is really appalling. So she sucks. Why does it bother people so much? Don’t listen to it.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I tried. It’s just too bad. At least with Friday (and I can’t believe I’m admitting this), I sometimes tap my feet.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The only time I’ve heard the whole song is when Colbert/The Roots did it on Fallon.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
There are times when I listen to it on repeat for several minutes.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
of Campbell as that Mediocre… I think to say he is is absurd.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Campbell
was in the top 45 D men in the NHL in ppg production, and he’s good in his own end, and he’s been solid offensively for the past 5-6 years consistently… he’s declined a bit, but he’d immediately be one of the top 2 D men in Toronto if he was here…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith
and Seabrook are better… but he’s still not a shitty D man, (despite Mike Brophy articles that argue otherwise… Brophy is an idiot though).
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
oh shit
he got traded… wow.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
like I said
wine… france… forget what I’m saying.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
if you can get past the particularly shitty service in restaurants from time to time… yes.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I found that problem was more or less limited to Paris, which is already worth avoiding in favour of the rest of France for so, so many reasons.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m in the middle of week 2 in paris… so when I get to Nice I’ll update that part of things.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and it wasn't my choice
of destination having been here previously, but my wife wanted to see it, so I relented.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I really love Paris. I know it’s cliche but whatever.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to love Paris. until I went to Barcelona.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
REALLY?!! why?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
it was hot and dirty
and I didn’t like being pestered to buy water on the beach or in the park or anywhere in public
I <3 Dueling Watermelons
mostly people pestered us to buy beer. which was great.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure that was real? Sounds like heaven to me.
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swear to god. the streets had hundreds of south asians willing to sell you beer for $1. which is a great excuse to sit around drinking in the many squares in the city.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I hated it. These people were so poor and I felt awful, but I hate to say it, as soon as you bought one thing from then (and I’m sorry 2 euro for a coke? when I don’t even want one?) a whole bunch of them would come and ask you to give them money.
I had such a sense of guilt about the fact that i was in a bikini on the beach and these women were wearing rags and scrambling to make enough money to get by that I really didn’t enjoy the experience.
I <3 Dueling Watermelons
you’ve never been on vacation outside of NA before?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
of course I have, it’s just that when I was in London, Paris, Amsterdam, I wasn’t getting pestered.
I <3 Dueling Watermelons
and you weren’t around a lot of poor people. they’re all over the world. sometimes in places we like to vacation. often, in fact, they depend on our money. they want you to be there.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
something like
30-40% of greeks are employed in Tourism… based on their economic situation, just think how much worse it’d get if you DIDN’T go to Greece.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you’re going to like being guilt-tripped and ENJOY IT.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
they want you to be there.
Definitely not an issue in Paris.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no
probably not… or London… or any of the huge cities in the world.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet few seem to have mastered not wanting you there with the zeal of Paris.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I prefer Barcelona, Rome, Munich… those were all better for various reasons.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Munich is better than everything for every reason.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Madrid
was pretty boring
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Madrid is amazing if you have local friends. Otherwise, it’s a particularly difficult city to uncover.
"To be a Leafs fan is to know your heart will be broken in the end."
–Seamus Borschevsky
by Berezin's Spleen on Aug 12, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked London when it’s not burning.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
London
and it burning, seems remarkably similar to Vancouver burning, or Santiago, Chile burning… or any number of other riots that are happening all over the planet.
What bothers me is how easily people buy the media’s story of it being “criminal” hooliganism…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
the combination of late teen, early 20’s entitlement along with the declining economy, and the fact that the social contract/fabric is being ripped regularly before our eyes implies that shit is going to get a LOT worse in the next 5-10 years.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
just because the economy is shit doesn’t give people a pass to smash shit and steal whatever isn’t bolted down.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
but there’s a large segment of society that doesn’t give a shit about rules these days, and that group is going to get bigger.
I don’t think “cracking down” is going to make it go away either.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
all the talk
about “robust” policing just reminds me of the G20 shit in Toronto frankly.
Anyway… this isn’t really the place for this convo, but the whole way shit is trending bothers me. I’ll leave it at that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There has always been a large segment of society that doesn’t give a shit about rules, and there always will be. Some people are just like that. It’s not new or unusual.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. And undoubtedly those people have seized upon this opportunity to wreak havoc. I just think that most of the rioters are explosively reacting to an unfair life. But, like I said, I’m going to hold of on reaching any conclusions. I’m simply hypothesizing.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not justifiable in any respect. Trying to figure out the root cause doesn’t mean that I’m condoning it. My point is that I would think that the problems run deeper than just a shitty economy.
And it’s a shitty economy for the middle/lower class in particular.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a combination of
a shitty economy, mass media normalization of shitty attitudes and behaviour, sense of immediacy and entitlement in youth, educational programs that don’t meet modern need, vanishing social programs and contracts (i.e. pensions aren’t going to be there when you’re 60 if you’re 20 now, so why bother worrying about planning for a shitty future?)
there’s a lot to it… it isn’t just the economy, but it certainly doesn’t help anything when the politicians and organizations in control of a country’s finances consistently talk about “fixing” an obviously broken system but they don’t do ANYTHING differently… nothing changes… but people keep seeing shit go sideways… it’s very frustrating and emasculating to the people at the bottom… who feel like they deserve more for less… why? because the government and media tell them so consistently…
but I digress.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The right wing media loves narratives, so I’m a bit suspicious. To be fair, I have no idea what it’s actually like there so I’ve resolved to not draw any conclusions until I actually see the facts for myself.
Scientific method.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
London riots are way more out of control than VAN riots. They are showing the colonies how it’s done.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
well
London isn’t even really rioting anymore, it’s spread to Manchester, Liverpool, etc. That’s kind of what makes it more interesting socially.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Map of the poverty levels and locations of the riots.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
This doesn’t surprise me at all.
Not to mention the fact that England still pays for a bunch of useless pustules to do absolutely nothing.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you're
a bit more certain of that than you probably should be.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for starters
every country has leeches that drain public services… but they aren’t the majority by any stretch… not even close.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The monarchy isn’t a justifiable drain on public resources. It’s an institution that was responsible for the eradication of entire populations and that gained power and wealth at the expense of others.
How do you think a person who’s grown up surrounded by poverty feels when he sees the ridiculous pomposity and waste of a royal wedding? What has William done to deserve his stature? Nothing.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
not to mention the upcoming olympics and all the spending on that shit…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you think a person who’s grown up surrounded by poverty feels when he sees the ridiculous pomposity and waste of a royal wedding?
I’m sure there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of English people who grew up in poverty, or in something close to it, who love their monarchy and feel it’s a great symbol of the greatness of the British and a symbol of national pride.
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yeah funny thing
the people that buy into nationalism are often the most likely to be trampled upon by their nation and asked to just “accept” it for the greater good.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
p.s.
nationalism bothers me.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a difference between “nationalism” and “national pride”.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
not really
they’re pretty much exactly the same thing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
what's to be proud of?
a flag? an anthem? people who are linked to you by being from the same geographical area?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
why
am I proud if someone from Vancouver does something? It’s not like I have anything to strongly link me to Vancouver…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I have more in common
with someone from NYC than I do to someone from Winnipeg…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At some point, disillusionment sets in.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
True but it’s a definite possibility. And maybe these riots are how those feelings manifest themselves.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think, in general, riots are a case of people doing things they wouldn’t normally do because all of a sudden they think they can get away with it.
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lol
tell the people in Syria that.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
or the students
in santiago chile.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure
they’d be happy to know they’re just a case of mass hysteria and their complaints are really just an example of “getting away with it”.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of an entirely different situation.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
you think it is
I don’t.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
the difference is
what you think the likely outcome is… and whether or not you are ok with what the people in power are doing.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So you’re saying the Vancouver riot and riots in a third-world country under an oppressive regime can be explained by the same theory?
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
it's not like
I’m talking unified theory here… I’m saying many of the root causes are present in both situations.
Disaffected Youth are central to both situations.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
the middle east
has some of the largest 20-something male population percentages on the planet… there’s a reason the Arab Spring is going on.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well put. It’s easy to dismiss the rioters as a bunch of spoiled brats but I’m not sure that’s the best long-term approach.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right. I shouldn’t jump to conclusions. But I suspect there’s deeper social issues at play here.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
they're at play
everywhere… it’s also a mistake to think that this is isolated to England… feel free to link it to the riots in Greece, Santiago, the Middle East, etc.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
only problem
I see with this is… there’s too much mobility for this to mean THAT much… people can hop on the tube and meet somewhere in the middle of an affluent neighbourhood to riot, so it’s a bit misleading… but yeah.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Coyne has been posting some pretty interesting stuff about people charged in the riots so far. It’s not just poor young people. Like the riot in Vancouver, it’s a broad cross-section of society.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I read that article today.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
this doesn’t surprise me at all. the thought that these riots just reflect the poor underclasses revolting against their conditions may give us a nice fuzzy feeling, but it probably doesn’t reflect reality.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The middle class has just as much reason to be upset. Especially since the middle class is being eroded. There was a recent study published that showed this fact in Toronto (I’m sorry but I don’t have the link right now). We’re seeing increasing levels of inequality, which is correlated with lower health, etc.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
it actually indicates that is more likely… not less.
The middle class protesting and rioting isn’t just people acting out normally… lower classes stealing shit? that sounds bad but it’s the story they’re trying to peddle already.
Middle class people with jobs and families protesting? that’s not something they want floating around because it implies there’s more going on.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
but i don’t buy the argument that stealing == protest
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people don’t steal for the hell of it. Some do but not most. To me, it’s indicative of something fundamentally wrong.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the other part of it
that seems out of whack is how the police forces really seem inclined to let a lot of it continue until they get permission to “crack down”… which reminds me a lot of the G20 rioting in Toronto… seems to be the new tack they take.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this whole situation shows the value of investment in programs for youths. Get them involved, instill a sense of community, give them an outlet for their creativity, let them find their passions and interests. Give them something to live for.
Society would be better off in the long run.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
society might be
but not the rich and powerful.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't either
but you don’t seem to buy the protesting the shittiness of day to ady life either… sounds like you’re just chalking it up to people behaving badly…
I think if that’s all it was it’d happen far more often than it does.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
As well, the 19-year-old daughter of a millionaire appeared in court charged with stealing £5,000-worth of electronic goods she allegedly looted in southeast London.
this isn’t protest. this is just theft.
some people may be “protesting”, but a lot of it is probably, as you said, just people behaving badly. why now? probably for the same reasons as in Vancouver and Toronto: mostly psychological factors that have to do with mob mentality
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see mob mentality being a huge part of this. That’s why I think there are some people who are exploiting the situation. Overall, though, I think this reflects social issues.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
one person?
out of thousands? and she proves your point?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
well you can’t assume the “thousands” are all poor protesters just because a few of them are any more than you can assume they’re all rich people just because one of them was.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
People are so ready to attack the rioters because it’s happening in England, which is a first world. But England is behind Egypt in terms of income equality.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
but not by GDP. just because it’s not as “equitable” doesn’t mean people are worse off in England than in Egypt.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
and poor people in the US are doing way better than poor people in Burma or Laos, but that doesn’t mean it’s cool for them to be poor.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
so if people in NY start looting 5th ave tomorrow, is it protest or crime?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The U.S. has massive wealth disparity, hence the health/crime problems. It’s more surprising that there haven’t been large scale riots. And again I’m not condoning rioting.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
again
not likely to be sucessful.
Watts Riots in the US were pretty notable… LA riots were pretty notable.
They werent’ looting Rodeo drive, that doesn’t make the damn things meaningless.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going by the UN’s Gini coefficient. And on average people in England are probably better off, but the extremes are more widely separated. That’s not indicative of a healthy society.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you’re saying when people start rioting they’re rationalizing to themselves (a) how rich they are (b) how rich their neighbours are, and do wo when the difference becomes too great?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No it’s not a rational process. Like you mentioned, mob mentality is a huge part of it. What I’m saying is that wealth/income inequality is generally indicative of a society that has health, crime, and other social problems. These problems are probably a major fuel for the riots. Eventually, people faced with constant unfairness just snap.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, I can agree with this. but i don’t agree that either (a) the rioting is somehow reflective of a “protest” by the poor/middle classes or that (b) the wealth inequity somehow justifies the actions.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t call it a protest. I would call it an emotional outburst. It’s frustration, rage, backlash, whatever synonym you want to call it.
I agree, violence is never justifiable. I’m simply looking for explanations. If there are underlying problems, they need to be fixed.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
again, i don’t understand it. the vancouver riots weren’t “backlash”…how are these any different?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m confused….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Citizens who have jobs or recreational activities or a future don’t riot.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny. Some of those Canucks fans didn’t look unemployed or homeless.
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some of them had bright futures on the swimming team at U of Calgary.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people are dumb. I’ve never denied that. But can we really use one data point to fit a curve?
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but we can use one data point to refuse stupid absolutes.
Citizens who have jobs or recreational activities or a future don’t riot.
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Admittedly, speaking in absolutes was a mistake. But the point remains that in truly healthy societies, rioting is rare if not non-existent.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a pretty silly point. Could you find a “truly healthy” society to use as an example? England, Canada, and the States are all out.
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Its pretty rare in Canada, England, and the US.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Riots_in_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Riots_and_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States
Compared to:
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’m not saying Denmark and Sweden are perfect societies. But they have much healthier distributions of wealth and better approaches to health and education.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
CHINA.
NO RIOTS. WHATSOEVER, OR PROTESTING. PERFECT HEALTH.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That was back in 89 and over 22 years ago, haven’t had a peep since. That’s a better track record compared to most other developed nations.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You do realize my usage of China as an example was in jest right? I mean, the all capitalization didn’t give it away?
At least you’re fact checking though.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad. I got caught up in the moment.
I apologize.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
There was that stuff in Urumqi in 2009
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I think
vancouver riots WERE partially backlash, but noone discusses it.
Vancouver also has huge income disparities… and social problems.
Despite the pretty pictures were constantly painted.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
in Toronto?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If there’s growing income disparity in Toronto, I imagine there’s a similar situation in Vancouver.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
so…whereever there are poor and rich people together, a riot == social protest?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Whenever poor and middle class people see their livelihoods being eroded while the rich continue to get richer at their expense, there is the possibility of rioting.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty simple:
Underlying Problem:
Stupid people riot.
What’s the solution? Kill stupid people?
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wow
stupid people riot?
I’d argue the opposite… stupid people are for more likely to take what they’re handed and accept it whether or not it’s shit.
Assuming rioting is linked to intelligence is pretty unintelligent frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So you’re saying it’s smart to assume that rioting is going to help whatever it is you want changed?
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usually
rioting is indicative of something wrong… societies that are functioning don’t have riots typically.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There is always something wrong in every society… a perfect society is impossible.
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So we just give up? No, we need to always find ways to get better.
If we had said that a perfect airplane was impossible, we’d still be jumping off cliffs with fabric wings. Progress.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I’ve been trying to say. I’m not justifying the violence, I’m not saying that some people aren’t exploiting the situation. I’m just saying that rioting is a symptom of something else. What’s wrong with trying to find out why this is happening?
If it turns out to be a bunch of spoiled brats (I doubt it, since Prince William wasn’t there), then I’ll be the first to apologize.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not a bunch of spoiled brats, it’s a bunch of people being irrational.
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Yes, irrational. Emotional. What’s causing the emotions in the people who aren’t taking advantage of the situation? I say let’s find out.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
There are lots of people making lots of money to do this, it’s not like they will ever agree.
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The problem is that governments nowadays “don’t use statistics as a reason not to get tough on criminals”. The science is being ignored by the people we elect.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
“Let’s boaster high school graduation rates by lowering testing standards!”
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and sitting there
and doing nothing is not likely to improve the situation… at all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
irony here is
people think we got to where we are WITHOUT protest… go read a fucking history book or something.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
you said
So you’re saying it’s smart to assume that rioting is going to help whatever it is you want changed?
and reality is… most times the only way things DO change is through mass protests and things like riots or revolutions.
The Arab Spring is an excellent example…
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
should I bring up
the french revolution? that might be relevant.
the russian october revolution?
if we want something closer to home I could mention Winnipeg and the mounties…
In the US we could talk about teamsters and unions throughout the turn of the 20th century and earlier.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah… the French and October Revolutions… where thousands perished to replace an absolute monarchy with a dictatorship (or serious of contentiously unstable dictatorship).
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
the french
revolution didn’t replace a monarchy with a dictatorship.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well no, it replaced the monarchy with a series of “communes” which devolved into dictatorships (think Robiespierre), until they were overthrown by Napoleon… then they went back to a monarchy for awhile before Mapoleon’s nephew took over.
I mean, France EVENTUALLY became a republic but that was much further down the road.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There are things you can do other than riot.
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To do things like what Ghandi did, or Martin Luther king, you need someone with the same power and will as those figures.
No w a days, if anyone like them rises up and tries to start a social movement in the same vein, they are torn down by the media, and ignored in favour of who lindsay lohan is eating out this week.
The system has changed. The venue for social change has changed.
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It appears to be.
I’m not saying it’s right, but it seems to be getting attention doesn’t it?
When’s the last time you saw a peaceful protest covered in the media and then taken seriously by those in power?
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When was the last time you saw a riot where people looted and burnt cop cars and smashed things get taken seriously by those in power?
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uh,
http://images.imagestate.com/Watermark/2365933.jpg – Prague Spring 1968
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Once again, you guys are using examples of people protesting oppressive regimes in a discussion centred around riots occurring in modern Western Society.
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You didn’t specify that criteria in your question. The responses are perfectly valid.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I’m sorry, they have to be completely unrelated, in this world of completely shut off communications and lack of knowledge of history, right!
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Please respect the arbitrary boundary across which people share no similarities. Refer to one as the Orient, and the other as the Occident.
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please also note that the results of a riot like the Prague spring did not enact change until years later, but that doesn’t mean that it didn’t enact change.
Who knows, the riots in Vancouver may be seen as the beginning of a new social norm (I doubt it but the future is unpredictable)
Also, please see riots in paris in which cars were burnt and change was enacted through student protests, likewise in california in 1968
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Does anyone really think that just slapping a bunch of criminal charges on everybody involved in the riots and not studying the events further will actually be useful?
Why do people object to figuring out if there’s an underlying cause?
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s a dangerous assumption to make, London isn’t necessarily a “typical” example, the government at this point is more interested in appearing to be decisive and strong mainly because they know the rest of the world will give them more scrutiny due to all this happening right before the Olympics.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
England has worse income disparity than Egypt. There’s a lot to love about Western countries but there’s also a lot that needs to be improved.
Also, England and London in particular seems to be really embracing the whole Big Brother concept.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, I thought Lindsay Lohan was the new Ghandi?
Fuck, I’ve been wasting my time following her.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
like what? do you think writing your MP makes a fucking difference? because it doesn’t.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
anyway
this is getting frustrating… and it’s all sort of uncessasary…
I’m going to go watch a movie with my wife… enjoy the rest of your day everyone.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
first off
why is it an assumption?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
secondly
the reason the ONE case of a rich kid’s theft was highlighted was explicitly because it’s so unique… and thus worthy of note.
If it was 2000 rich kids stealing shit, don’t you think they’d mention that?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the article
would say “the girl… one of many of the wealthy thieves…” blah blah…
they wouldn’t point out how much her parents make if it wasn’t abnormal.
You don’t hear any mention of how much the majority of the rioters rake in in income because guess what? they don’t make much… which is what we’re supposed to think, and thus link with “yobbishness” or “hooliganism” or “theft” or whatever the hell else we’re being told…
very little of it amounts to the press telling anyone that any of the protest has a valid source or cause… in fact they’ve said the exact opposite repeatedly, despite the initial shooting in tottenham that started it all.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
but you yourself said that some of them AREN’T poor. they middle classes. but when the poor and middle classes loot it’s protest? only when the rich do it is it anarchy?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
precisely, it’s okay to hate when they’ve got money!
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The middle class is disappearing. When have the rich ever rioted?
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Venezuala
to protest Chavez… last example I can think of.
They weren’t very good at it.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
no
I’m saying that the issue is muddier than just calling it lawlessness… I think the random middle class participants indicates that people with more than just an absence of wealth or a need for electronics are participating.
I do think the majority are poor, and I do think the majority of them are annoyed at the “system” they perceive to be slanted against them constantly… and frankly what about that is incorrect? How does the system help them at this point? There’s something like a 30% unemployment rate amongst early 20 something males in the UK… they have something like 18% drop out rates, who are NEVER going to be employable… that’s messed up frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the majority of them are annoyed at the "system" they perceive to be slanted against them constantly
if they’re so mad at the “system”, why are they not burning down parliament and looting the queen’s palace?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
one's a lot more
likely to get them shot than the other.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
guerilla warfare
doesn’t usually involve picking off hard targets.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
but it still works
at getting the point across… just ask the NATO forces in Afghanistan.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and no matter how much
the press tries to convince us that Afghanistan is in the hands of warlords and the taliban, Guerilla warfare also doesn’t work unless you have locals on your side.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrorism doesn’t often involve hard targets. Guerilla warfare can absolutely involve taking out hard targets (example: the Vietnamese were almost exclusively hitting hard targets).
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Hard Targets, huh?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ow does it feel to be unted?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU TELL ME!
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew I could count on you, Jared.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
exclusively?
I guess all the punji sticks in the forest and the raiding of the American supply lines was about hard targets? I think the stuff you heard about was “harder” to get to, but it was far from the majority of attacks, or exclusive.
That’s a ridiculous exaggeration frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Saying “exclusively” would be a ridiculous exaggeration. Good thing I wrote “almost exclusively.”
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Also: escorted supply lines would not be considered a soft target.
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many people who actually care about their system are willing to risk their lives.
they protests in syria were sparked by someone setting himself on fire, weren’t they?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
link?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
here
is the article he was referring to.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m an Alsace partisan. Rhine > Seine. Also a notable absence of violent hobos.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Alsace-Lorraine was pretty awesome… Rhineland was great.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that actually
hasn’t been that bad… it’s rained quite a bit, so the smell hasn’t hung around much.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t referring to the tourist experience in particular. I’ve always had a “crush” on France.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Gross.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
I’m happy with having a vacation at all right now. looking forward to Nice… and honestly the food has been awesome and affordable, so I’m not complaining.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a great little Bistro in the 6th:
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had some great eats
more good restaurants than I can bother to remember at this moment… but thanks for the tip… I’m here till Tuesday, so we’ll see if I can make it… supposed to go to the Catacombs tomorrow… which I’ve now gone to twice but the line ups are isnane.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i avoid anything with a line. unless it’s for food.
that place is good because it’s very authentic and cheap, not necessarily because it’s the best food you’ll ever eat. when i went there i had both of my (very nearby) neighbours remark about how a tourist would end up at such a place. they both lived above the restaurant.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’ve had some amazing food, generally by avoiding touristy areas… which frankly annoy me a lot.
I hate wandering through crowds and being bumped incessantly.
Went to see Versailles two days ago and god was that annoying.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s so strange and fascinating to see a country where people have lived in the same spot for thousands of years.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
rome
was good for that…
but let’s not forget… people have lived in Canada for thousands of years too… we just killed most of them when we moved in.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh totally. In fact, I was thinking that very same thing as I typed my comment. It is shameful.
In Europe, it’s more that they’ve lived in the same cities for that long.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Rome was great but every time I bumped into someone on a crowded street they threw everything they were carrying straight up in the air and collapsed. I couldn’t figure it out.
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by Chemmy on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
sigh
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not that it’s bad service, their custom is to not annoy you while you eat so they just stand by and wait for you to call them over for everything.
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Which is awesome. I cringe whenever I get a waiter who says “everything okay here?” more than once, or more than about 5 minutes after I get my food.
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no
when they seat you and then avoid any eye contact despite your attempts to get their attention? that’s bad service… and it is intentional.
It’s been rare… I can only think of 2 instances that stick out in a week and a half, but it was pretty obvious and it annoyed me.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eating takes a lot longer on the continent. I like it.
Never had bad service on any of my trips to Paris.
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most places
have been awesome… it really was 2 places that stick out in my mind… it was frankly fucking odd.
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- Sir Winston Churchill
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
When people eat dinner there they spend the whole night talking. It’s very different from our “GO GO GO GO GO GO” mentality.
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my meals
have generally taken over 2 hours… one of the 2 I’m thinking of was a cafe where we tried to ask for coffee multiple times and we actually spoke to a waiter twice… and he’d just sort of wander off and not return.
Anyway… this is taking up more of the convo than necessary as it’s not really the majority of my experience.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not anymore, so he’s not coming back in this hypothetical trade.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The biggest concern for this tandem has got to be Gustavsson. The “good” news is that the scoring chance data showed that the Leafs played significantly worse in front of him, so maybe we can expect a bounce-back season.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm no I’d say the biggest concern is still Reimer. The load is firmly being placed on his shoulders right now.
He looks better but has much more impact on whether we win or lose, as I’m assuming he’ll play the majority of games as it stands now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Reimer will be getting the lion’s share of starts. But if Gustavsson falters, then Reimer either needs to take more of the load, making his situation worse, or we need to bring up another prospect who may not be ready.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, if Gus fails we trade a team for their backup or bring up Rynnas/Scrivens.
A lot more relies on Reimer, and a lot more could go wrong than having your backup not be great.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
But then we’re giving up assets or possibly rushing guys into the NHL. I am of course basing this opinion on my relatively greater confidence in Reimer.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Gustavsson
is disposable… he’s a replacement level keeper, and we have more of those waiting in the wings… the issue is Reimer repeating what he did last year now that we’ve given him a new contract.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, ya’ll are starting to convince me. But I stand by my potential bounce-back statement.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much sums it up. No clear-cut or even moderately better solution.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun at $3MM would have been at least moderately better. At $4MM, even.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly I thought Vokoun would have costed 4M+ on a short contract.
Can’t believe he signed for $1.5M. He’s the only one I really wish we could have landed to play with Reimer.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but is that an actual possibility?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I’ve read no other team offered him more than $3M.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought about linking that article, but I think it’s pretty off for a couple of teams.
Yes, Anaheim lacks an insurance policy, but Emery probably wasn’t interested in competing for a backup job and hoping Hiller was injured. I doubt that had serious talks, especially considering that Emery is going to go compete against Crawford for starts. As far as bringing in another, who? Garon? Meh. Ellis and whoever their current prospect is would probably be a better bet.
Columbus, I agree with. Dekanich is a risky move, and if they’re really gearing up to make a statement, the guy who lost a spot to Lindback probably isn’t the way to do it.
Florida made an offer to Vokoun, I believe. I think it was 3 years? They’ve got Markstrom waiting in the wings anyways, and to be honest, Jose Theodore showed in Minnesota he’s got some years left in him yet.
Phoenix I agree with, Islanders have so many goalies, all of them projects or hold outs, and I disagree that the Varlamov experiment will work out in Colorado, almost entirely because of the price they paid.
It’s a pretty poor article. UFA goalie crop was defined as “Old or unproven?” besides Vokoun and Bryzgalov.
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As many have discussed, Kulemin scoring another 30 goals seems pretty unlikely.
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I think it’s unlikely he shoots 17% again, but I also think he can take more shots. That being said I think he’ll pot 25.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he could raise his game up and hit 25.
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the hell?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, more appropriate response might have been: is there an echo in here?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was agreeing with you. I don’t think he’ll slump and score 10.
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Well shit.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone know what his shooting % was in the KHL his last two years? His first two years here he was a bit tentative on the offensive side imo which would account for a lower shootin % and shot totals. I think last year he was more confident in his game and that led to his increase in output.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Kulemin doesn’t seem like he’ll score even more than he did last year given his shooting percentage. Also it seems odd he’d get more assists since Grabo and MacA are scoring less…
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Agreed. And the numbers for Liles and Phaneuf seem high too.
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All three of them were on the right side of PDO last year. I’m already bracing for the fan reactions when they regress a tiny bit.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, I have forever been working on a post about Kulemin that I don’t seem to ever finish.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it happens. I was working on a piece about NHL attendance and never quite got through it.
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I've got a shit ton of data on 30 goal scorers, what age they first did it, their icetime, draft position, G/60, sh%, shots/60, etc. that I'm trying to turn into a coherant analysis.
Or at the very least find a number of comparable situations. Not all 30 goal scorers are made the same, and even when they half a huge jump in sh%, doesn’t necessarily mean they will score less the next year….
Also fun fact, just over 55% of the 150 players to have scored 30 goals since the 98/99 season (when they first started publishing TOI data) have been 1st round picks. Honestly, I thought it’d have been higher.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs would score
235 goals as a team by these projections. That’s a 17 goal increase. Would put them 7th in the EC last year. I guess that’s not impossible…
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The biggest step forward we can take as a team is to get that Goals Against down.
C’monnnnnn Reimer (+defense)
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind that assumes none of your players are injured and replaced with Darrel Boyce or someone.
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A pretty weak assumption…. if a bottom 6er goes down we’re fine, but Top 6? We can only replace Connolly maybe once with Lombardi….
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Adding Connolly and accounting that we’re young, adding 235 goals seems reasonable.
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adding 235 goals seems reasonable
And that’s just Kessel’s improvement!
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The Leafs have been in the top 10 in PPO the last two years. If they could find a way to increase the PP% to even 18%, that would be 6 goals right there.
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The more I look, outside of the goaltending of course, the Leafs have really shot themselves in the foot via the powerplay.
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+Connolly +Franson +Liles -Lebda -Acton
is a great start at attempting to fix what is a clear problem.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
17.5% is league median so that’s asking for a lot, especially because PP% has been trending down slightly.
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the difference between 17.5 and 18 is less than two goals, so call it whatever you want. Considering the additions of Connolly, Liles, Franson, is the 6 goal difference between 16% and 18% insurmountable? I wouldn’t say so.
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At 32 shots against per game we need a .913 team SV%.
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If Reimer puts up a .920 sv% average, and Gustavsson a .900 sv% average.
The game split at which our team sv% falls below .913 is:
53 Reimer / 29 Gustavsson.
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What about if Gustavsson gives us 15 games of .880, gets sent back to Sweden, and we sign Turco, who provides .905 goaltending? What’s the game split then, and how much alcohol would I need to drink in order to have a vision that we were in the playoffs?
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Turco .905?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
.913 year before last.
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Reimer will put up a .940 and PLAYOFFS
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I love those dreams!
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
I love those dreams!
are you insinuating that the above statement has no basis in reality?
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Considering no one has ever done that before I’ll stick with .940
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Fine all he has to do is .938 to beat Timmy
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No-one’s ever had God on his side before either.
No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.
Holy crap we should sign Dan Aykroyd!
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If only Belushi were still alive too..
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Except Grimaldi, but that couldn’t even get him drafted in the 1st round.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He got drafted by Florida.
God has clearly forsaken him.
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by article1 on Aug 12, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Alright, I laughed at this.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad Maradonna doesn’t play hockey
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hand passes aren’t allowed in the offensive zone, and unlike soccer, hockey has video replay.
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Yeah not sure if I touched a nerve there or what..
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Gustavsson puts up a .910 or better this year.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, i know it’s crazy. but nothing will happen if i’m wrong. if i’m right i look like genius.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
does me reminding you of this prediction constantly
make a difference? because you know I will.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ve already decided to ignore everything you say this year, so no, it doesn’t.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that's a pretty bold
statement… I’ll remind you of that one too.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
also
I can see you’re off to a great start… is that going to start with the pre-season? or 1st game drop of the puck?
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
clearly i wasn’t being serious.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing is ever
as clear as it appears when someone says the magic words…
please, thank you, or dildo.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m sure you will, Steve. if there’s one thing you’re good at, its “reminding” people how wrong we all are.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
or right?
I’m good at lots of things, I just do these more often than others.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey man I said DIon is gonna play like he did when he was nominated for the NOrris. I got your back
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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also, not so crazy?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not suer bout .910 but I’d definitely put him at over 900 if he has been working hard and he stays healthy. I still believe he can become a great goalie – he’s had a lot of bad luck, health problems, and he never got time to adjust to the NA game when he arrived. Sheltered games behind Reimer? Yeah I can easily see over .900, I guess .910 is a possibility.
by Goosemonster on Aug 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If the team improves the scoring chances against when Gustavsson is playing, his save percentage could go up drastically.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally doable
Guy like Kulemin and Bozak will see a decline in goals; but at the same time guys like Kessel, Phaneuf, and Armstrong will see an increase. Then add in Connolly, Franson, and Lombardi and yeah that could be your 17 goal increase over the output of Crabb, Boyce, Lebda from last year.
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I’m not ready to pencil in an improvement on Kessel until I see how he plays with his new centermen.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
really? you could do it on his shooting percentage alone.
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You’re not confident in Connolly, Grabovski, or Lombardi to be more useful to him than Bozak?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think regardless of who is his centerman, Kessel is driving the offense on his line.
What he needs a guy who can help him be better rather than guys who are holding him back, as I think has been the case the last 2 years.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
having Lupul for a full year and connolly/lombardi gives Kessel more options and forces the other team to not double team him as much as he has better outlets.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just say I’m much more optimistic about MGK line than Kessel + ?s. I’d love to be surprised to the upside.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s got a point. Kessel has the puck on his stick a ton. He has driven the offense on the top line the last two seasons from a possession standpoint. Now, there should be at least some increase in points for Kessel simply due to the change from Bozak to Connolly. But I’m not sure we’ll see a huge increase in points unless Kessel plays off the puck more.
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I also freely admit that I have a bias against Connolly and don’t think he’ll be as good as some of his prior P/60 and Point-per-game totals have suggested he might.
There are only 2 things I like about the Connolly signing – he’s no Bozak and the term is 2 years.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were Phil Kessel, would you pass the puck to Tyler Bozak or Joey Crabb? I sure wouldn’t.
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I’m not saying he wasn’t right or wrong to do that. I just think it’s fair to say Kessel could score more if played a bit more off the puck.
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Which having Connolly around should allow him to do. Which I thought was the whole impetus for this discussion.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the time he scored 36 as a 21 year old playing with Marc Savard? Like that time?
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To be fair, Savard was a pretty damn good playmaker.
I don’t put Connolly anywhere near his level.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure. I’m just saying that in his 3rd NHL season, Kessel scored 36 with a great center. Last year he scored 32 with a bad center. This year he could easily do 35+ with a decent center.
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a decent center and another scoring threat on the other wing as well.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 12, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
he would need
a big jump in his shooting percentages…. which I don’t really think have much to do with his C.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
if his
shooting locations change, then it’ll increase… but it won’t unless he starts to go to tougher spots on the ice with regularity.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This should happen though, a better center will not only get Kessel the puck in better locations but also make the locations he’s already shooting from better (i.e. draw a defender or make a quicker pass to beat the goalie to his angle).
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kessel has to go
to these locations, and maybe not blow by the net… he needs to be willing to shoot and then hang out for rebounds (he doesn’t get rebounds very effectively at all).
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he was getting better at those things later in the season, and he was scoring more often as a result.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he was
maybe he wasn’t… I really didn’t notice a huge change in his style of play.
I’d just like to see him hang out in the slot more consistently, and not do everything off the rush.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Establishing a cycle relies on the entire line. Kessel needs players who can help him set up in the offensive zone.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a track record of shooting from better locations with better centres. I think it will happen.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I think so. How many times can you recall Phil and Bozak rushing on a 2 on 1 only to have Bozak flub the pass or take the shot himself? Connolly will make that saucer pass every time.
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He already pre-frustrates me because he’ll be our #1 (or #2)C and won’t put up 100 points so he’ll be one of the goats when we miss playoffs again.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why I’m fine with 35 as a projection. I think he could have gotten 35 last year too.
Hopefully with a good center he’ll hit 40.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
In my current study which looks at distance and frequency of shots, factors in goals and quality of competition to determine who are the most dangerous shooters, Kessel was the 3rd most dangerous in the league that year right behind Marian Hossa and Rene Bourque, and even with Eric Staal. The next closest guys are Jeff Carter, Zach Parise and Alex Semin.
he was pretty fucking good
he was against the toughest competition and still managed the 36 goals as a 21 year old.
But seriously, couldn’t we have just gotten him for a 2nd and a 4th instead?
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he was pretty fucking good
Couldn’t agree more. Kessel is a very good player. People shouldn’t make the mistake of underestimating him.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Kessel needs linemates who can help him establish and maintain puck possession in the offensive zone.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure for 30 games.
Bozak may well spend time with Kessel again if Connolly gets hurt and Lombardi is still seeing stars. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Kessel will hopefully progress by himself because he’s like 24, but last year I pencilled him in for 40. I think 35 is an okay guess from the article.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Big if, but if Connolly can stay healthy, I think he out-scores anyone on the MGK line.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that this is what we were talking about above
but just for my own personal interest sake, who here would trade Reimer for Crawford straight up right now?
Use whatever factors you would like – age, contract, experience, potential, etc.
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hmm
age? meaningless since both are still under 27…. Crawford is 26, but he’s still far from old.
contract? Reimer is cheaper. $1.8 mill versus $2.67 mill for Crawford.
experience? Meh, half a season more from Crawford may not mean much, but he looked good in the playoffs and he never really looked like he had huge holes.
potential? again… comparable… Crawford is slightly older, but he’s got a better team in front of him also.
Really I wouldn’t bother at this point, too many unknowns for what you’d get.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
age? meaningless since both are still under 27
Uhhh, what? Reimer is 23 next year, Crawford 27. Four years’ difference isn’t really “meaningless,” even if they’re both under a certain ceiling.
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Not to put words in Steve’s mouth, but I think he means from a performance perspective, it’s not like he’s over the hill and going to get worse.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, okay, I get that.
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yes basically
I’m just saying both have lots of years ahead of them so I wouldn’t really factor it into the deal at this point… they’re both young goalies.
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by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
One will be a UFA a lot sooner than the other.
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And if you subscribe to the Anthopoulos school of GMing, that’s pretty important.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Never, if only because if Reimer busts now, big deal. If we trade him for Crawford and Crawford busts and Reimer is great, we look like idiots.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
Rask for Raycraft round two. That would be a disaster on my soul.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
guys
I just saw Phil Kessel’s overweight doppleganger.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
i wondered that as well, but isn’t he still playing hockey? this guy was pretty out of shape….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
is there a bill?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
bill
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it the guy from Todd and the Book of Evil? Because I always referred to that guy as Phil’s younger, svelter brother.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t think so, no.
bear in mind I’m also in Madison, WI. The chances that this guy was related to phil are > 0.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that Lee Sweatt has retired, how long until Bill decides to follow in his brothers’ footsteps?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 12, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
Retiring was a pretty bold way of saying he didn’t want to play in Ottawa. Didn’t he just sign a 2 year deal like, 30 days ago?
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Chronic injuries.
A bolder way to make that statement would have been to, y’know, not sign with Ottawa in the first place.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 12, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
"chronic"
is a bit of an exaggeration… he blocked 2 shots…. 1 from Shea Weber, which just bruised the foot, and another in the AHL that “shattered” the same foot.
That isn’t chronic injury, it’s just horribly shitty luck.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
actually correction
it wasn’t in the AHL, it was in practice with the Canucks.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya I was just being a dick
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
is this
what he actually did? because if so, that’s insane.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Word is he’s decided to pursue a business. Hoping he didn’t get advice from Chris Neil.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Waiting tables at Sean Avery’s restaurant.
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Do the waiters all learn to wave plates in diners’ faces to distract them from the bill?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Aug 12, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he signed
a 2 year deal worth $625,000 in year 1, and $675,000 in year 2… but the AHL salaries were only $80K and $175K… if he was injured all the time he isn’t sacrificing that much, because he wouldn’t be sticking around the NHL frankly.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. If he’s got a good business opportunity giving up $80k to not deal with severe rehab isn’t a big deal.
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exactly
although, as mentioned above, if he’s interacting with Chris Neil he might not be making money… who knows.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear he’s writing a self help book called Not Sweatting the Small Stuff.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Or a series of workout DVDs entitled: Sweatting with Lee
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
An Autobiography: Blood, Sweatt and Tears: My Life in the NHL.
It’s a short book.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hmmm… new business opportunities with Chris Neil eh?
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2010/6/9/1508287/chris-neil-is-bankrupt
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Whoah what
This whole Lee Sweatt saga keeps getting more and more interesting
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
Thanks to Joe Yerdon’s series on the Best and worst sweaters of all time. I have been spending a lot of time of NHL Uniforms. I the St. Louis Blues would get it together and stick with the 1992-1994 sweaters.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Leafs TV had game one of the 93 Norris Finals on the other morning and I had the same thought
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL.com article featuring Tim Connolly.
A teammate offered a beverage to Tim Connolly, who, slapping his hand on a stomach that was as flat and hard as the stall in front of which he stood, politely declined. […] Connolly, at a taut 191 pounds and winded not at all, looked to be the very definition of a player in midseason form.
6’1", 191.
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I love it when they describe their flat hard bellies and watermelon butts in articles
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STRANGER DANGER
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not what your mom said to me last night.
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Connolly in midseason form, huh? That means we’re only getting a few games before he’s down for the count.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a weird simile
“as flat and hard as the stall in front of which he stood”
Stalls are flat and hard? Aren’t they an open space you keep things in?
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
“the wall of the stall” probably doesn’t roll off your tongue as well when you read it but what do I know
by PLAYOFFS!!!1 on Aug 12, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it’s when the angle of attack interrupts air flow over the wings, causing the airspeed to drop below stall speed minimum.
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Is that an African stall or a European stall?
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I learned that
in compressible fluid flow and aerodynamics classes… one day I’ll consider getting a pilots license.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."
- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
by Steve Burtch on Aug 12, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Being in a hockey thread that has touched on Jean-Claude van Damme, I think it’s high time we discussed what an amazing movie Sudden Death was.
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damn straight
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Action movies rule.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
bam!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
if you did, my hat is off to you
now we just need one of him fighting with goalie pads on
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
all the best gifs have JCVD in them
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
dance off!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve wanted to punch a snake since that came out.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man that would have been sick to have when Johnson KO’d DiPietro.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I’ll go first.
It was way awesome when the kid saw the mascot shoot a guy.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
two words
pad stack
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 12, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the entire movie is on Youtube right now.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
FUCK YES.
See you guys later.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have a link? I can’t find it.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahaha comes back 7 minutes later
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I'm telling you I was the King of Spain (now I eat humble pie)
Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
Twitter me this.
by happiergilmore on Aug 12, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I found something I thought was it, but it was a documentary about actual ways people die suddenly, other than being kicked in the face by JCVD.
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by puckurgently on Aug 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
TOO MANY COMMENTS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE!!!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
I love this twitter account.
JLupul
Hanging out w/ some Canadians at Barnett Winery. Best view in Napa and a pretty tasty Cab yfrog.com/kf42njqj
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By Canadians I meant people from Canada. Not Montreal Canadiens. I would never talk to any of those guys, let alone share my wine w/ them..
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I accept a lot of the responsibility for that. Sorry about that. I’m actually going to take off now so problem solved.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well the page is still going to be slow whether your here or not lol
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