Awash In A Sea of Apathy
by SkinnyFish on Aug 3, 2011 7:01 AM EDT
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Yesterday brought with it two big stories. The first being the Shea Weber arbitration hearing and the ridiculous contracts by both sides. Weber - $8.5M. (lol) Nashville - $4.75M (somehow more lol). It could be another day until we hear the arbiter's ruling, so don't hold your breath on this one.
The other big story was the defeat of a proposal in Nassau County to fund a new arena for the Islanders. Going by to the tune of 57% Against, 43% For. Possibly the saddest thing of all was the low voter turnout for the proposal. Of Nassau County's 900,000 registered voters, had an estimated 100,000 voter turnout. A paltry 11% at best. Word from the Island is that the team itself didn't contact voters urging for a Yes vote until an email was sent out at 8:30pm urging people to go and vote before the 9:00pm poll closure.
Forget for a second the fact that this team is losing money like it's going out of style, is owned by an incompetent in the field of proper asset management, and plays games in a dilapidated mausoleum with no alternative in sight. (All of which are good, valid reasons to sell and relocate the team.) Instead look at the poor voter turnout, the too-late email from the team, and the empty seats that outnumber fans at the games. The New York Islanders are awash in a sea of total apathy. Charles Wang should show some empathy and sell the struggling franchise to an owner and a city that will actually care for the hockey team. The storied franchise that is the New York Islanders deserves no less.
Just my two cents.
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That being said....
Shea Weber a Leaf? Sure, Why Not.
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Mirtle with the story on how this could signal the beginning of the end of the team on Long Island.
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I still can’t believe they went to public funds route AFTER rejecting the Wang builds it all himself route.
Is there anything i’m missing from the Wang option? Was he going to build it on an ancient indian buirial ground? or use a special concrete mix that has a secret ingrediant (kitten tears)?
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A good article on this whole thing can be read here. Here’s an excerpt covering your question.
Islanders owner Charles Wang, one of the richest men on Long Island, last year tried to push through an elaborate mixed-use, privately funded development known as the Lighthouse project. It was derailed by the Town of Hempstead, which disapproved of its tall buildings.
There had also been interest from the Shinnecock Indian tribe to build a casino on the site, but its proximity to Hofstra University killed the plan.
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I knew the town didn’t like it, but was never clear why (and obviously way too lazy to find out on my own), thanks.
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takes away from the suburban character of the town
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on Aug 3, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Those tall buildings can wreak havoc towards a small, suburban town!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
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Right, I mean who would want a tall, modern, sleek looking building in their neighborhood when instead they could just continue having this:
Not shown, the acres and acres of empty parking lot surrounding the arena.
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How can you not see the aesthetics of parking lots?
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If they built something useful instead of empty parking lots how would the residents complain about them anymore?
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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!
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Parking lot? More like nobody-parks-there-because-they’re-so-shitty lot!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
one of them is so un-used they put a driving test track there instead.
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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.
It’s funny that it’s probably close to 2x as big as Scotiabank Place’s (also in middle of nowhere), except they actually have people at games. And in Glendale they at least share theirs with a Stadium that actually gets filled.
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Maybe I’m wrong but a 100,000 voter turnout seems good to me.
Sure, its only 11% of Nassau county, but we’re talking about hockey here, and we’re talking about a terrible hockey team (at least for now). Even before, they had the 4-year dynasty of the 80s but they weren’t historied or any of the like, they were more or less just a good hockey team.
The voter turnout for last election was only around 60% and that’s for who is going to run your government.. that’s a lot bigger issue than what Nassau’s facing.
I mean personally of course I’d go vote but I’m sure hockey doesn’t mean anything to half the people in the county and the rest will find their reasons. 100k isn’t a bad turnout IMO
It wasn’t just about hockey, it was about their taxes – that should have been the driving force.
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The finger thing means the taxes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I believe this is exactly what happened… purplemonkeydishwater!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
grr...
*dishwasher not “dishwater”, I believe that would be pretty gross
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
100,000 votes for something that would have a $400M or more effect on the county’s taxes. $400M for 1.3M residents.
In 2010, Forbes magazine released its American Community Survey and named Nassau County number 11 in its list of the top 25 richest counties in America. The survey also named Nassau County the number one richest county per capita in the State of New York, with a median household income of $93,579.[
They have their money and don’t want Wang or the Islanders to take some of it away.
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I think that “selling point” has been overblown. Sure some guys will get to work on it, but they’ll be from large construction firms who are already working on projects in NYC as made evident by the construction I hit everytime I drive through the city. The Lighthouse wouldn’t be plucking guys out of the unemployment lines to pour concrete.
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Property taxes in Nassau are also reportedly some of the highest in the States. And the fiscal situation there is so bad the county now has an oversight board that goes over their budgetary decisions. Trying to ding the county for another $400M after the entire country almost defaulted yesterday…well that’s just terrible timing.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, woops. Was looking at the figure for Long Island
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Anyone know where one can go online to find out how many taxpayers there are in a certain area? Or is it usually comparable to the number of registered voters?
Nah, because many people will not be registered and some who pay taxes can’t vote (criminals, dishonorable discharges, teenagers). I just looked up census data, and people 15 and over (tax payers) make up 80% of the population.
Nassau have a population of roughly 1.3M, 80% of which is 1.04M and they have 900,000 registered voters. But with a 10% difference, yeah that’s good for estimation’s sake.
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don’t forget us resident aliens/permanent residents who pay taxes but can’t vote.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
An independent economic review revealed the plan would generate an estimated $1.2 billion in revenue for the county. That revenue was slated to pay off the estimated $350 million in construction costs, erase $433 million in debt service payments and provide the county more than $400 million in funds which is intended to keep property tax payments from rising.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sns-tsn-adn-arena-nyi-20110803,0,5341710.story
So what’s the deal here? Voting no just doesn’t make much sense, even to the “I don’t care about hockey” baby-boomers who probably came out en masse to oppose the tax increase.
This used to happen when i lived in Rochester: old people would vote against school budgets even when voting no would cause taxes to increase and services to decrease.
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I like how teenagers are lumped in with criminals and dishonourable discharges :P
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I’ll move on to your lawn now
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Lame. /blasts music
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that’s worse than having a lawn with kids on it
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree…what do you yell at kids about?
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pulling their pants up. all the time my friends get yelled at to pull up their pants
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Baggy pants? People still do that?
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not like back in the day, but yeah lots of people do.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Not baggy, but a lot of guys jeans now are “low rise” meaning you wear them a lot lower than old people expect and they they they are around your ass.
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Basically this
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that makes more sense
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I know it was brought up yesterday, but worth rementioning
Sam Carrick training with Roberts this summer. Other names on there are Stamkos, Jared and Jordan Staal, Jeff Skinner, Cody Hodgson, and Carolina prospect Chris Terry. Apparently 15 names in total.
Carrick still seems a longer shot prospect than most of our others, but it’s good to know he’s taking it seriously.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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I saw that mentioned in the article yesterday.
Then it led to me to a lot of google rumours (coppernblue, mapleleafs.com, hfboards) about how Kessel is also working out with Roberts.
That then led to me to a lot of discussion about how Kessel is obese
and then a super rediculous picture that looks like its Grabbo with Malkin and Ovechkin, but in the picture Grabbo is either 5’4 or Malkin & Ovechkin are 7’0.
Its pretty sweet that Carick is interested in that. Obviously Jordan Staal, Stamkos and Skinner are better shots than Carrick. Not sure who Terry is and Hodgson is still a prospect at best, Jared Staal is broken, etc. Eveyone’s got their issues, and the best of those players largely owe their success to Roberts in the first place, so we can be optimistic
Pretty sure he's peer pressured by his brothers.
Hey remember when every other Staal was awesome except you? Get to the gym, dummy.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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For some reason, the Staal brothers make me think of the Mendelbaums from Seinfeld. Expect for Jared.
Jared’s the Percy Weasley of the Staal family.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice. Well known when first introduced and then forgotten about as time goes on
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Very true.
Jordan must be Ron then, and Marc & Eric are the successful twins?
Or is Marc Ron because he’s the only defense and was drafted later, whereas the earlier picked centers are Jordan & Eric?
I feel as though Eric should be Ron… gut feeling.
Marc & Jordan are more rough and tumble like the twins
Wait I just got it…
Eric is Bill… the oldest and goes out and brings home the treasure…
Marc is Charlie… Successful in his own career which is more rough and tumble
Jared is Percy- the whiny little bitch who everyone forgets about
Jordan is Ron- one of the most well known Staal’s but is always underrated when compared to his older brothers, is really good friends with the star of the series (Crosby)
by WizardofNaz on Aug 3, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
thats it. Fantastic.
i love this conversation
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Bylsma is Dumbledore? Lemieux is Cornelius Fudge!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
and Shero is Umbridge!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Ovechkin is Malfoy, Backstrom and Semin are Crabb and Goyle
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Mike Green is Pansy Parkinson. Boudreau is Snape.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what this all means.. right? Bettman is Voldemort and Daly is Nagini
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry. He who must not be named is Voldemort
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
All the French players with visors are from Beauxbatons and all the enigmatic Russians are from Durmstrang.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I would go even nerdier and say Lemieux is Rufus Scrimgeour as he’s the grizzly old vet who rose to the top of the power chain. Fudge is just incompetent who gets replaced by the vet so the old Owners. Also Shero isn’t evil and fat so he shouldn’t be Umbridge he should be like McGonnagal.
Also if Malkin is Krum then either Letang or Fleury has to be Hermione.
Also Long Island is Azkaban because going there sucks all the hope out of you
Or maybe Winnipeg is Azkaban and the black flies are dementors
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Matt Cooke is Malfoy and Kunitz is Neville
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
So Cooke is Lucius
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Ovie is Krum. 100%. They’re even both bowlegged!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Gutless? Sure why not.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
the Sens are death eaters then?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
don’t you nerds have something else better to do? I mean come on! I’m missing comic book wednesday for this?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Possibly. I was never huge into comics themselves, but I love the heros. I have a bunch of old ones that were my dads lying around
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
DC comics, aside from Batman by himself, blow. Their characters are far too overpowered and their universe extremely convoluted. They’ve realized this, hence the reboot, but they’re still working with inherently flawed material.
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My first comic was an old captain america, then spider -man, then Xmen, it wasn’t until I was older I really begun to like Iron Man/thor etc, they always seemed peripheral to me.
now i think Dr. Strange is pretty awesome.
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This is edging close to the line that it goes from being fun to being sad
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
holy crap
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Err you mean Ginny and no he shouldn’t be because Ginny is a tough lil SOB who scares her brothers even, and really Jared is more the timid bureaucrat like Percy
Definitely Charlie- he works with dragons
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
So, who's ready for a season of Weber/Parise trade rumours?
I’m gonna jump on the hipster train and say I’m already pre-emptively tired of them.
There's always next season!
I've been tired of Weber/Parise trade rumours since before they were cool
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why would the Leafs go after Weber? They already have a lot of money tied up in the defense and three good, young right D
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why would the Leafs go after Weber?
Not sure if serious or just birky….
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by SkinnyFish on Aug 3, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let’s be realistic here for a second. The Leafs already have Phaneuf @ 6.5 million, a guy who has shown he can log 25+ minutes per night and has a lot of offense to offer. Schenn is probably looking at 3 – 3.5 million per year, and is a young 2nd pairing guy who’s not bad. Franson has lots of potential on the PP and looks to be a fairly solid guy for the bottom pairing.
I don’t see the need for a player like Shea Weber, especially when you look at the depth of the position in the system, and could possibly have another 3 young, talent defensemen with full-time NHL gigs by next season (Aulie, Gardiner, Blacker).
Why spend 7-8 million per season on another player at a position of strength when the obvious long term needs on this team are on the first line, a place where the Leafs are going to need to spend serious dough?
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I’d rather the Leafs target Ryan Suter, a LD who would be a great partner for Phaneuf, than go after Weber.
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Oh, I forgot….Shea Weber has a mean beard and once shot the puck through the net. Let’s go get him, I’m sure he’ll solve all of our problems. We’ll only have to pay him a similar rate that a first line center would cost. But hey, I’m sure Tim Connolly will be the long-term answer there…
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Let’s be realistic here. Shea Weber is a Norris calibre defenseman and only 25. Who frankly cares about having defensive prospects when you’ve got a player like that who’s could be on the team for the next 10 years?
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Our defensive prospects are actually quite solid. In fact, the Leafs’ group of defensemen is probably one of the top 3 groups under 25, if not the best, in the NHL. The Leafs have far greater needs elsewhere than adding yet another defender, even one as good as Weber. Adding him means you can’t add elsewhere, simply due to cap restraints.
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… the Leafs’ group of defensemen is probably one of the top 3 groups under 25, if not the best, in the NHL
And there is proof of this because??? What place did we finish in again? Hardly can be labeled as “best” now can it?
As for picking up Weber (never happen but…) as I see it, if he’s already an upgrade from the players we already have you can not say we don’t need him.
"There's been four different Cup winners the last four years, and I got one of them (Anaheim) and it was a fighting team. We're playing it that way regardless." - B. Burke, Toronto Maple Leafs GM
I’m not talking about just the players on the roster. I’m talking about organizational depth.
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An objective analysis of our prospects landed us at 9th in the NHL – Schenn, Franson, and Gunnarsson all won’t count, and I doubt that Kadri, McKegg, Caputi and Frattin were boosting our reputation significantly. The only team with which I would swap every defenseman in our system for every defenseman in theirs, would be Nashville.
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In fact, the Leafs’ group of defensemen is probably one of the top 3 groups under 25, if not the best, in the NHL.
On paper. I seem to keep thinking it but once they hit the ice they sure don’t look like it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
One can only hope they will be and even if they do become quite a good group, I doubt the MSM will fawn over them anyway. My point is basically the one that if you have a chance to improve or upgrade your team/roster you do it if its beneficial. If a player like Weber is available, I would be pissed if I knew Burke wasn’t doing everything he can to get him, much like any big ticket player that becomes available as long as there isn’t any negative ramifications of doing such an addition.
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If Weber became a Leaf, Phanuef would be on his way out. That’s the only way I see that happening.
And it wouldn’t bother me at all
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes.I.Know
But really, you’d pass on an opportunity to grab Shea Weber?
(yes it’s the middle of the summer and there is nothing to talk about)
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yes. Absolutely. Zach Parise? Different story. There’s no need on the Leafs for Weber.
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There’s no need on the Leafs for Weber.
Fully agree. The Leafs are doing so well without a player of his calibre.
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it’s birky
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I’m sure the Leafs’ lack of success has everything to do with the lack of Shea Weber on this team, and nothing to do with long-term failure in net and inability to score goals.
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Zach Parise averages 38 goals a season.
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And if Parise resigns, you still pass on Weber?
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I hope Parise resigns.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Parise: “I want to resign!”
Lamoriello “You can’t quit! You’re fired!!”
Let the Wookie win.
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You know the drill..
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be Donald Trump Blue-Steel’ing.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
God damn.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
God daism.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes. My feelings have nothing to do with Weber’s talent. He’s a great hockey player. The Leafs need to concentrate on their greatest need – first line talent. I think adding Weber would seriously impact the team’s ability to add offense.
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It isn’t dumb. Given a choice of one or the other I take Parise every time based on the current Leafs roster. BUT the odds of us EVER reaching this fork in the road is very very very unlikely.
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He’s not saying to take one over the other though. He did initially but when we suggested parise will resign he says
“well I still don’t want Weber because we need to save that space for any potential first liners that become available”
which is ludacris
I’m not talking about saving cap space. The Leafs are probably going to have to trade for first line talent as opposed to signing free agents. But would I rather see the Leafs trade for a first line center or winger than sign Weber? Yes.
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We don’t have any Carter’s and Richards’ to give up on though
Signing Weber and trading for a top center aren’t mutally exclusive
Unless we’re trading Kessel for this top liner, we’re going to improve from both situations.
Add Weber and you improve. If you are at the cap and you want to trade for Parise et al., then you do it. If you need to shed more salary, then you do that.
If you’re talking simply about adding good players in a vacuum…obviously I’m all for that. I think putting it in context makes it more difficult.
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I think you’d need a really good Dyson to get Weber and Parise.
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Earlier, someone mentioned launching Komisarek into space. While he’s up there, he can grab them both for us.
Isn’t Parise a little young to be resigning?
Let’s not call a spade a diamond. I think it’s clear that Parise is a better fit for this team than Weber. However, that isn’t to say that Weber wouldn’t make this team better – he most certainly would make it better.
Not getting Weber to keep room for Parise goes back to our perennial plight of watching all of the future UFAs sign “Rick Nash Deals” and never actually having the opportunity to sign these guys.
I’d love to win 10 million and switch bodies with Ryan Gosling but I’ll settle for one of those and not worry about the pros and cons of either.
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I’m going to assume Weber is re-signed by Nashville after his hearing. In my opinion, that makes this whole discussion time dependent In two seasons, if the Leafs defense lives up to its potential, doesn’t Weber become unnecessary?
This is a good point. It’s more about Shea Weber the UFA 2013. At the ripe old age of 28.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Getzlaf could also be available in 2013.
I love Weber and I want him on the team but I’m going to take a wait and see aproach, seeing as he’s not even hypothetically available for 2 years.
Stranger things have happened but it would be a miracle of all miracles for Getzlaf to test the market. Unless ANA totally fucks up and their franchise goes down the toilet. At this point he is completely set to play on the best line in hockey for the rest of his career.
Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly (and projecting my own opinion), but I don’t think anyone really expected that Weber would make it to UFA by 2013.
Really my point is that we’re discussing a change to our current roster but the change won’t happen for another 2 years. The timeline in this discussion is completely messed up.
The timeline in this discussion is completely messed up.
It’s summer and we’re bored.
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but I don’t think anyone really expected that Weber would make it to UFA by 2013.
Read Mirtle/Friedman article’s yesterday on the subject.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to take a wait and see aproach
Yes.
Fine, more difficult hypothetical. Weber is available for trade, after the arbitration hearing goes south. To you take a stab?
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
NSH walks away from the award for some ungodly reason, or decides to trade him during this coming season?
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
They can’t trade him during the season. Players who go to arbitration can not be traded for one year.
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If you walk away from the arbitration deal, can you still re-sign that player? Hypothetically speaking that is
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Nashville can’t walk away. This is club-initiated arbitration
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The Preds have to sign him for whatever the arbitrator decides. The only shot any other team would have is if he isn’t re-signed by next July 1st.
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Is he UFA next July?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe arbitration awards are for 1 season so if there is no extension then yes.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
How is that decided though?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, Shield answered me below.
Also, since it was team elected Weber could choose for the award to be 1 or 2 years, he chose 1.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
CBA 12.9(c) "Election of Term"
The party against whom an arbitration election was filed (i.e., the Club in
Player-elected salary arbitration and the Player in Club-elected salary arbitration) shall
elect in its brief whether the arbitration award shall be for a one or two-year SPC
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Here’s a question: If Weber wants to be UFA ASAP, why wouldn’t he take a two year?
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Who knows. Maybe he doesn’t want to be a UFA ASAP. I just remember reading in the TSN article on the issue (which has disappeared) they said Weber elected a 1-year (I remember because I was surprised).
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He’s not UFA until 2013, he was 13 games short of a “season” one year.
Also, since it was team elected Weber could choose for the award to be 1 or 2 years, he chose 1.
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Ah… so it could be one year and then back to the drawing board OR two years and then UFA status at the end?
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But they can still trade Weber’s rights next summer. Is it one year from the arbitration date? Or just July 1.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
No. CapGeek clarified this yesterday – Weber is still RFA next year and arbitration eligible again.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
So whatever the award is, they’re stuck with it? Next offseason will suck for them
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Or is he not a UFA next year
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the point is that if Weber becomes available somehow, a good GM would inquire about his price and see how it fits into the long term plans of the team.
by stevesmith19 on Aug 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the point is that if Weber becomes available somehow, a good GM would inquire about his price and would be an idiot not to take him unless the price was ridiculous.see how it fits into the long term plans of the team.
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meh fuck it.
Doesn’t sound like you’re interested in Shea Weber any time before or after 2013
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
This has come up a lot recently. You can trade a player after arbitration, just not after matching an offer-sheet.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
How does it feel to be so wrong?
(setting you up for an easy comeback)
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not as good as your mother felt last night.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
If you add Weber, you don’t leave the Leafs D in tact as is. You would have to ship out other assets on D, to make room for his contract. As I said, since this all just massive hypothetical speculation for the sake of boredom, Weber in, Phanuef Out. Done.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
How about Weber in, Liles out, Komisarek burried
Phaneuf – Weber
Gunnarson – Schenn
Aulie – Franson
done
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well since we’re just rosterbating and adding Shea Weber, who brings in the better return for a top-6 forward: Phaneuf or Schenn? Phaneuf is proven, you know what he is, and he’s an impact player. But Schenn’s got that magical potential.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Aug 3, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no team in hockey that can afford to say no to a player the caliber of Shea. None.
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Apparently a team who hasn’t made the playoffs in 7 years can
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It seems like Nashville is trying very hard.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Aug 3, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, posturing. Being stupid for the sake of looking tough.
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Being stupid for the sake of looking tough.
I like that
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But it takes a master tactician to act tough for the sake of looking stupid.
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Could we get away with burying Komisarek the usual 6ft underground, or should we dig deeper due to his stronger than normal hockey stink?
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Is shooting him into outer space an option?
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 3, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Stronger than normal hockey stink
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He’s also taller than 6ft so if he somehow excapes the coffin and tries to stand we at least want to keep his head under still.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If Schenn/Phaneuf are keeping us from adding Weber, then we add Weber and trade Schenn. Give Weber the tough matchups on the 1st D pairing, and put Phaneuf back in the role he excelled at in Calgary, playing 2nd pair minutes with tons of PP time.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I get what you’re saying – that if we are going to spend assets to get a notable player, we should be aiming for that player to be a forward at this point – but, if we have the opportunity to get Weber for just cap space (should he be an early UFA, since at this point he isn’t a trade target for the next year), we do it, even if we have to re-arrange our blueline to do it. Hell, being able to move defensemen would be an excellent way to address the first line problem – especially if defensemen on the outs would be replaced by a Norris nominee, gold medal winning all star.
However, if winning a cup is really what matters to Weber, I think we have a lot of ground to make up in the next two years if we want to be an enticing place for him to play.
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Knee surgery?
KNEE surgery? C’mon!
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Probably a torn meniscus and they just went in and did a minor meniscectomy. He’ll be skating by training camp, I had the same surgery.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Mis-information!! Well it still could have been cartilage related…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
All those dives took a toll on him.
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by Frag on Aug 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wuss
I torn my meniscus in high school and didn’t have surgery. Still played hockey my senior year.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I forgot to mention because I could hardly do anything for about 6 months of crutches after the first surgery, I lost 20 lbs and have stretch marks on my arms now :(. But my knee feels great, I’ve been running and biking and skating and golfing and everything. I’m just lucky it’s not my front knee in my golf stance
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Also I wish I was in Andrei Markov territory… I’m pumped for next years draft, one of my old teammates hopefully ends up in a good spot.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait.. my draft year!
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Same, but living on the east coast doesn’t lend me many high end hockey players going into the draft.
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Maritimes?
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Niiice. OHL>
:D
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
well you’ve got some pretty good current NHLers :D
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The #Sens have re-signed forward Kaspars Daugavins to a one-year, two-way contract: ottsens.com/nOsyny
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Watch it. They just went from pretenders to contenders.
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What I want to know is, what’s an Ottsen?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Almost lunch… 2nd best part of the day behind quitting time
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What time do you get lunch??
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Same
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I could too, but then I’d be hungry later and feel stupid.
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I’m about to go eat breakfast
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I had my breakfast when I got to work. Lately I’ve been bringing it and eating it at work, I get to work earlier this way and then get paid to eat.
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You just gave a description of my morning. First 15 minutes of the day are designated for eating
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I haven’t eaten breakfast :(
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I had a roommate who called the first meal of the day he ate breakfast, which pissed me off, because you can’t call something you eat at 1 pm breakfast.
The actual time on the clock has nothing to do with what a meal is, it has to do with your internal clock.
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Burned
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Well in my first two years of undergrad I would generally go to bed around 5 or 6am, get up at 1 or 2pm and then repeat.
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Logistics continue to leave people corrected
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What if I steer it into a semantic argument about the word breakfast meaning a meal eaten at a specific time of day, rather than the first meal of the day?
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It’s pretty simple. The work “breakfast” comes from the words “break” and “fast”, meaning you are breaking your fast (as you’ve been fasting since the last meal you had the night before). The first meal of the day is the meal that breaks your fast, which is breakfast.
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But if I skip lunch does that make dinner my second breakfast as I would have broken yet another period of fasting?
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Then,
there’s the food choices.
But its all relative in the end
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What if I have lasagna at 8am and an egg mcmuffin at 5:30pm?
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Then you sir, are an interesting man
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Whoa, why didn’t I ask this awesome question. Kudos.
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Jack in the Box will serve their breakfast menu at anytime of the day they are open.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Technically every meal breaks a period of fasting (be it 10 minutes), this might be gettnig a little too technical, but you can call whatever meal you want whatever you want. I just think generally your longest period of fasting is Dinner (or last night snack) to Breakfast which can be like 8-16 hours.
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there you go
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You mean “endstarve”, “halthunger” and “finishfamish”? I’ve been using those for years.
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I’m totally calling breakfast “finishfamish” from now on
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I’d put money on that being pretty much a translation of what they say in German, everything in German is so literal (e.g. Submarine = Underseaboaten).
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I just BBM’d my g/f and apparently breakfast is “fruhstuck”, lunch is “mittagessen” and dinner is “abendessen”.
Literal meanings for the latter two are “afternoon eating” and “evening eating” lol. She isn’t sure on “fruhstuck”, but “fruh” means early.
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Yes you would.
I just looked up “stuck” on a translator and there’s a bunch of meanings, but the most likely is “slice” or “slices” as in cake or pie. So basically Fruhstuck means “early slice”
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how do you define a fast? Cause technically everything you eat can be considered breakfast, no?
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Yeah and then I check my emails, flag anything to do for the day, and start working whilst PPPing. Generally the last 1-2 hours before lunch, and first 2-3 hours after lunch are my most productive.
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I usually skip a meal a day, it was breakfast when I have somewhere to go in the mornings. These days I usually skip lunch
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I never skip breakfast or lunch, sometimes I kind of “skip” dinner by not really having a meal but just some random small sustinence at night.
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well when I skip lunch, I usually compensate by eating chips or cookies or something :P
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(which often ends up ruining dinner)
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Breakfast is imperative for me to function… I’m stuck in zombie mode if not
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Earlier this year I barely had a meal a day, just like a bag of chips and that was it. Not a fun time
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This all-chips diet…is this what the cool kids are doing now?
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, everyone gave up alcohol and drugs to pursue this new craze of eating chips all day, every day
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How’s that working out for you?
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
haha I did it for about week cause I didn’t have time to eat >.< it was really gross :P
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you preferred drugs and alcohol
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I did when I was her age
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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17 is it?
Sounds about right
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
By didn’t have time to eat she obviously meant “because I had a bong in my mouth the whole time”
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ROFLMAO
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Liked the "Grievances" piece:
Canooks: dang those bruins, perpetually in cahoots with the league!
Habs: Who needs scouts?!?!? We have a video from 2000 that shows gomez lifting the cup.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
Oh… yeah…. it says Osgood. I misread it. Hilarity still applies.
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It actually does make more sense with Osgood, what, with al the HHOF debates going on over the last several weeks.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
DennisTFP Dennis Bernstein
Zherdev to KHL. Russian winters > Winnipeg winters.
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I didn’t really pay any attention to it. I wouldn’t say it’s racism, I haven’t seen Karate Kid in a long time but I’m pretty sure if this comment/picture is racist then so is the movie.
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I’m not sure i’ve ever heard him speak, but it does seem unlikely.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that I look at it, Ralph Macchio does look pretty similar to Garth Snow.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they’re both Asian, so that must make them exactly the same or something.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I didn’t realize he was saying it was Charles Wang, now I get what he meant by “above picture”.
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I didn’t even bother reading it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, stereotyping people's voices based on their ethnicity is never funny
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Racist ? Do you know the Term ?
Rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
PLUS ~~
MY WIFE IS ASIAN YOU NUMBSKULL !!! So I hardly think that I am Racists … Especially towards Asian People when My Wife is from the Asian Continent.
if you think thats racists then I think Shield hit it on the head….
It was poking fun at the top picture.
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at least you didnt call it a joke, because that means it would have had to be funny
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaaaaaannnnd BOOM ! goes the Dynamite…..
He appears. Amazing
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yes amazing, you say something dumb and here I am
dun da da dun!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 5, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes i think you have some sort of radar. you’re impressive
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by happiergilmore on Aug 5, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you were never taught by your peers to not call names and and insulting. Have I ever stated that you say something dumb ? No. I swear .. you Troll me… you look for anything I post and you POUNCE at the opportunity to be Arrogant and disrespectful. Were you ever taught the Golden Rule ?
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You’ve said some pretty stupid shit man
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by happiergilmore on Aug 5, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he’s just an Arrogant Troll
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by happiergilmore on Aug 6, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
you say dumb stuff and I call you on it, I call everyone on saying dumb shit, you just say the dumbest shit of all and do it way more often than anyone so you get the brunt of my scorn. If I say something stupid, I expect to be called out on it.
you think pretty highly of yourself if you think I am waiting to pounce on your bullshit, I just come across it when I read it, and as of late I have actually let a ton of it go because I am sick of your crap.
You are the last person who should be on a high horse about disrespect with some of the ingorant crap you have spouted.
as my mama always said, if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. and if you cant take the backlash, dont say stupid shit on the internet.
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 6, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you just say the dumbest shit of all and do it way more often than anyone so you get the brunt of my scorn.
thats a matter of opinion. not everyone has the same opinions in this world. that neither makes me wrong or you anymore right. that neither makes me more dumber and you more smarter.
you think pretty highly of yourself
Absolutely ~ I know that I am a great person created by GOD. I high recommend everyone to think highly of themselves and act humble and loving towards all people.
You are the last person who should be on a high horse about disrespect with some of the ingorant crap you have spouted.
Again thats a matter of Opinion…. I am sure as much as you say that I have had people say that I have said some of the nicest and smartest things.
Look .. I know not everyone likes everyone.. and I get that you don’t like me for whatever reason …I just ask you sincerely… please .. stop POUNCING at every opportunity to come out and say negative things about me….
because .. as you say
you say dumb stuff
… I can say the same thing about you.. But I dont come out and troll you and jump all over you. .. So please.. Stop.
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I’m interested in a couple of the potential rule changes. The referee headsets sound like a good idea. I like the “Brian Burke bearhug rule”. They should definitely take the trapezoid out. I’m potentially open to the idea of allowing hand passes, but I’m worried it would just lead to players throwing the puck around.
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Hand Passes ~ No way ! Keep the game with the Puck on the Stick !
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I don’t like the idea of the hand pass in the offensive zone (what’s next, scoring with your hand), but if they extended the “legal” hand pass zone from the D-zone to D+Neutral Zone I’d be fine with it.
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And if we allow hand-scoring what’s next??? Volleyball players switching to hockey, that’s what.
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The referees already talk and yell to each other on the ice. As a ref of 10 years, I can’t recall a time when I would have liked a headset. I just yelled so that everyone on the ice, including my partner could hear the calls. “LOOSE!” “GOOD!” “ICE!” “OFF! OFF!” I just think the headsets would quiet them down and then the players would suffer do to a lack of communication between them and the refs.
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Totally agree with this one. I would say the furthest you could go would be to have just the two referees with headsets to talk to each other quietly, but the linesmen don’t need them and need to be vocal out there.
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Exactly. Unless you’re putting headsets in the players helmets it’s stupid. The point of them yelling is almost more for the players than the other refs
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the headset is so the guys upstairs can communicate with them, not the other refs
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They already have those in the timekeepers booth though
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Aside from reviews, why would they need though if they can just skate over to the scorer’s bench to talk to them over the phone?
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As a way to keep the flow of the game going?
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How would headsets keep the flow of the game going versus the current system with regards to the situations in which they are used?
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why would they need though if they can just skate over to the scorer’s bench to talk to them over the phone?
Instead of going to the bench, they can be talked to during a faceoff, while teams change lines etc.
I dont agree with it, I can see why they would want it tho
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But they can’t start the play anyways until they sort everything out.
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But this way they can do it while skating around!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. And the teams welcome the break in action as a pseudo timeout to give their guys a rest and for the coach to do some coaching.
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Disregard what I said, I made a mistake.
Instead of going to the bench penalty box to talk to the people on the phone, they can be talked to during a faceoff, while teams change lines etc and keep the game going.
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unrealted story
when I was working TV on JR B games in high school there were figure skaters during intermission.
well, they didn’t close their door properly when they left the ice, so mid period someone was checked itno that door and they went through the door and rolled down the ramp into the hallway.
so if that happens more often I’m all for figure skaters
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Other places this happens: the Penguins old arena they finally killed (it was so terrible)
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it was awesome.
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I remember one time when both zamboni doors were knocked open in the same shift.
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I miss it :(
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It was originally built as an opera house!
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if only they could have retracted that roof for hockey
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That’s why, as a ref, we’re supposed to go around checking every door to make sure it’s securely shut before play resumes.
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You sound like one of ’em good referrees
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
They are really rare. I was a ref for 4 years and I definitely wasn’t a good one. I didn’t care enough and would base how I called a game entirely on my mood; I would also be a lot more likely to make calls in favour of a team if the other team’s coach was being a douchenozzle.
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Or in the case of adult rec league – if it’s a late game don’t call anything (penalties, icing, offside) so the game ends as soon as possible.
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. it’s just a rec game, but some of us are trying to recapture our failed years of glory here.
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More concerned with injury than anything.
When refs stop making penalty calls – players start to take justice into their own hands and fights and scuffels happen. Not needed in men’s league.
Offsides and icing is all about recapturing failed years of glory
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
i saw more fights in the adult beginers league I played in than the JrA games the preceeded them
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I’ve been trying to talk to refs about this during the game.
They all just look at me like:
“Crazy goalie is crazy”
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And they are rare.
Checking all the doors is standard safety and so few do it
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I would always do it before a game, and check penalty doors after a player had gotten out of a penalty, but the bench doors would be up to the teams to manage.
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Honestly, in the men’s league I play in right now, the doors don’t even get checked pre-game half the time
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re all adults if you can’t close a damn door properly then it’s your own fault.
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You’d think so…but here we are
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I really enjoyed refereeing and will probably take it back up once I get settled in an area. In the States, I was a Level 3 which is just below the Level 4 which allows you to referee Junior and International level hockey.
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That’s sweet. I never really liked it and was only Level 2, so I only did house league and minor hockey rep games.
The last year or so that I reffed I got a lot more comfortable and started to enjoy it a bit (and I was reffing better hockey). TBH it was one of those things I kind of wanted to enjoy more than I actually did.
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I’ve always thought of reffing, i think I may try it out once my skating gets better. I’ve been offered to ref game sin my current elagyue, so perhaps I’ll give ’er a try in the summer league.
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Yeah I did it through high school. I actually “reffed” for a year before high school, but it wasn’t real reffing and I wasn’t certified or anything, just skated around in refs uni while 5 year olds “played hockey”, dropped a few faceoffs and threw some pucks in the corner after a goalie freeze.
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You should, man. If you’re good at it, do it
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I want the rule back where one dman can slow up an opposing player on the rush by interfering with him and not get a penalty.
/cherry’d
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Oh god, I hated that.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Next thing you know we will be considering a Computerized Vapor Trail off a Puck after its fired at the net….
Wait…
We already did that hokey crap and it failed miserably !!!
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I fucking loved being on D and holding up the trailing man. definition of a shutdown d-man
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It’s interesting to not the correlation of obstruction penalties being implemented/illegality of interference plays, game speed and head injuries from hits.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m more willing to say that it’s the way in which we are more aware of and track headshots that’s seen a “rise” in their numbers as of late, rather than their actual occurrence.
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I’m certain that Scott Stevens would have more suspensions than Pronger if he played post-lockout.
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Case in point – Rock em Sock Em 2.
nowadays these are devastating.
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I thought you were linking to the trailer for Real Steel for a second.
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Slew foot, tripping, elbowing, hit from behind, head shot
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
and some really fuckin awesome hits.
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I’m trying to imagine Colin Campbell press conferences explaining why there were no suspensions for the hits in that video.
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How many head injuries are on plays that would have been stopped by obstruction, though? Usually the guy getting hit is on the team with the puck, and I don’t remember people obstructing defenders all that much.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys remember the 2-line pass rule?!?!? Gosh, it seems so weird now when you watch a classic game from say the 90s and they blow the whistle for a 2-line pass.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I always wanted them to get rid of that rule, was glad when they did. But then, I also like shootouts.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I like shootouts in that they’re entertaining
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They’re so intense too.
Generally I love them when we win (haha we won!) and hate them when we lose (it was a tie except for the dumb shootout).
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haha same. I like them better now that I’m more confident in our goaltending (obligatory: I love Reim)
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Though I know it kind of turns into a skill competition that doesn’t necessarily award the extra point to the best team on the night (unless ofcourse the Leafs win), I actually think they are kind of exciting also.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 3, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
two line pass was so weird, I never could fully comprehend it other then slowing the game down.
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It was a rule to eliminate cherry-picking… It makes a bit more sense when you consider how much farther apart the blue lines used to be…
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James Reimer?
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ha, I thought we were listing awesome people :P
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IMPORTANT PIC.
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by thenumber14 on Aug 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
IS THAT THE SCHENNER!!????
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome!
A tank in a tank
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAH. I like that he’s wearing glasses. Can’t get the soldiers pregnant
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I’ve never seen a tank within a tank before.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Aug 3, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s meta
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Stolen joke alert
Im So Meta Even This Acronym
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s like Russian Dolls, but with Canadian steel
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda want to blingee it, but it’s already perfect just the way it is
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Don’t you dare blingy it. Don’t you dare
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT BLINGEE IS COOL
(I won’t)
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(all good/do whatever you want/just playin’)
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Do the rebel thing and blingee it.
Hear that? That's the sound of leaf fans scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
Blingee’ing it would defile Luke. I can’t rebel against him.
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The power of shared data
This is an excellent piece on what happens when journalists share data. It’s worth the 10 minutes it will take to read.
As I have a habit, whenever I read, watch or listen to just about anything, of asking myself, “what does this have to do with the Leafs?” this article reminds me of the power of this site and so many other sports blogs. As the article makes clear, when people are kind enough to share the data they’ve collected, it allows for greater analysis, insight and understanding…and now back to dancing cat gifs.
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Interesting read. I’m like you, I always ask myself how it relates to the Leafs.
I feel like most people who create large spreadsheets or data sets are willing to share. Has anyone ever encountered someone unwilling to share?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily “unwilling” but often it’s not provided right up front.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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I can understand not wanting to post everything right in the main article, but if people ask it should be shared.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed, good article MF.
I haven’t encountered unwillingness to share, but I wonder what the guys at Hockey-Reference would say if I asked them to share all their data with me in spreadsheet form as opposed to me copying and pasting what I need for my draft database. I assume they make money by running the site, and I think they may have to pay for some of the data feeds they receive from the NHL, so I wonder if they’d be hesitant to put the data out there for everyone to use. Could be detrimental to their traffic?
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by SkinnyFish on Aug 3, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently Ted Nolan can add Latvian National Team Head Coach to his resume now
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 3, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
Blackhawks sign Patrick Sharp to five-year contract extension.
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Hey look, next year’s UFA crop is shrinking already.
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They can’t even sign him to a new deal until Jan 1 2012 even if they wanted to, so expect at least 5 more months of it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, even if Parise moves, I doubt it’s until closer to the trade deadline.
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Good on the Blackhawks.
I know I might be in the minority but for proven guys like this, I think locking them up ahead of time before the UFA circus comes to town is a smart move for both sides.
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by nhlcheapshot on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not bad value for a year or 2, but is 34 year old Patrick Sharp going to be a $6 million player?
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probably not, but if the Hawks wanted to keep him for ages 29-32 then that’s the price
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s the spirit!
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I would love a 35 year old, $6.25M Mats Sundin right about now.
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I’d take him too,.
a little different player than Sharp, maybe not the best comparable. But yeah I’d take Sundin back at age 35 at 6.25
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I wasn’t saying it was a total comparable, but neither is Smyth. Its just that players aren’t always garbage once they hit 35. Even at 35 Sundin would be easily worth 6.25, especially if he had someone like Kessel to play with. Man, it’s kind of weird and sad how excited I’m getting just thinking about that.
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I don’t disagree…Some players can excel well into their 30’s
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
it’s not the normal progression path but that’s why you need to apply qualitative factors to quant work.
Not everyone peaks and starts declining at 25-26, it’s just on average in a large sample size, that is indeed the case.
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Comps
Here’s 21 comps in terms of points
I guess its not that bad.
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It wouldn’t be bad if he was the same age as the guys he’s comparable to, like Stastny, Ryan, Eriksson, etc. But he’s already 29, and he’s not going to be a 65-70 point player in a few years.
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Of note: I think about half the list was drafted in 2003 but that’s not terribly surprising because its two years of that class’s prime i used.
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That might end up looking not great in 5 years.
Makes me worry about Grabbo.
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Obviously not $5.9, but another 29 goal 60 point campaign and we’re looking at $4.5M+
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Actually Leino got that much for 19 goals…. so it’s probably $5.5M+ as a UFA.
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Might even be more than that… 30 goals scorers are worth a lot of money.
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I’m terrified to see how much money Grabovski could make on the open market. I think it could hit $6 million if he could go 30g/60pts this year.
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Seems ridiculous doesn’t it?
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
$6 million? Really? I think you’re insane.
Who’s giving Grabbo $6 million?
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Ville Leino, with 30 career goals, is making $11 million this season ($6 million salary, $5 million bonus).
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by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That is crazy business.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo still hasn’t figured out how to get under the cap this year.
What about Roy? They already have a 1st line centre everyone thinks is just a great 2nd line centre.
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We recently discovered that Vanek plays better when we don’t give him any players that can pass.
If we do that, he just wins the game by himself instead.
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Cap increases another $5M, Colorado needs to hit the floor again!
Just kidding. But seriously, teams lose their mind on July 1. Thinking about it now… look at that freakin’ Florida roster.
Upshall $3.5M x 4
Fleishmann $4.5M x 4 after that scary blood clot thing
Kopecky $3M x 4
Bergenheim $2.75M x 4
100 year old Jovonovski $4.125M x 4
Then Leino and Erik Cole at $4.5M x 4? And those are just the mediocre names.
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Why’s the cap increasing another $5M before a single game’s been played?
The CBA expires at the end of next season; why are we so sure it’s going to continue to go up?
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I thought I covered this
Just kidding.
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He’ll get alex semin money if he puts up around 30 goals again.
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To make up for lost time, the Sabres signed six seasons worth of front-loaded cap skirting contracts in one week.
Depends if Glen Sather needs a center next year or not.
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Alexander Semin’s never scored less than 26 goals in a season.
Both times he has scored less than 30 goals he played less than 65 games.
Mikhail Grabovski’s career-best season for goals is Semin’s 4th best.
He gets Semin money for 30 goals… Yeah. Fucking. Right.
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Mikhail Grabovski is not an enigmatic russian (technically) that gets injured all the time and plays with Ovechkin or Backstrom (but rarely both!)
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If Grabovski makes $6 million next year, I will buy you a beer that you will immediately sign to a 12-year cap circumventing deal.
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You might want to amend that bet. If anyone other than Burke signs him he’ll be making 6 million, but that probably won’t be his cap hit.
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$4M cap hit, $10M salary frontloaded
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Salary is an irrelevant number to me. I’m talking cap hit.
Unless the cap suddenly jumps to $100M or the top 20 centres in the league all simultaneously drop dead, there is no chance in hell Grabovski has a $6M cap hit in 2012/13.
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Semin’s cap hit would be a lot lower if he didn’t keep doing one year deals so he could use KHL rumors as leverage.
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Semin’s a significantly better player than Grabovski.
Even if Semin was doing long-term deals he’d have a significantly higher cap hit.
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Semin is a better goal scorer. Grabovski is better at just about everything else. That being said, goal scoring is one of the things GMs are willing to pay a lot of money for.
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What is this, some kind of goal scoring competition?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Another scary comparable?
Brooks Laich, 6 years $4.5M/year.
Never put up more than 25G or 59Points.
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So if Brooks Laich is comparable, why are we worrying about Grabovski making $6M again?
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I'm not - on the Leafs.
On Florida or NYI? Who knows.
Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far.
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Grabovski has already scored more on a worse team. If he can do it again this year, he’ll likely make more money.
NOTE: New CBA could change everything.
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I’m of the firm belief he will be re-signed by the Leafs, likely $4.5M – $5M to a 5 year deal by the deadline.
If they can’t work something out… I hate to say it but he might be gone.
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I see hte Plekanec contract as a likely comparable.
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That makes perfect sense to me, but this past summer has shatterred any notion of the NHL making any sense.
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Grabovski will make bank if he hits the UFA market after another strong season.
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Toronto vs Buffalo - 2004 game recap
Not a fight today but a look at one of the best Maple Leafs games in the past 20 years
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TGfireandice Ex-Dev Colin White’s agent, Ben Hankinson, said White has agreed to terms with new team. Signing and announcement coming today or tomorrow.
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"New Team"
haha way to keep us guessing
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Must be the Jets.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this reasoning… they didn’t even say “a” new team, just “new team”, could they mean “the” new team?
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How new?
Like Kansis City Islanders new?
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It's weird.
It seems like they tried to make something really modern and great looking, but I think it’s super ugly.
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Probably signed a 5 million dollar contract with the islanders.
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They wanted to include him in the Rolston trade but realized later that $3M wasn’t a bit enough contract to hit the floor.
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Also the Islanders defense is composed of 50% ex-devils or something.
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With the other 50% being Mark Streit
They should trade that guy he’s being wasted on the Island.
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Colin White has signed a one year deal with San Jose worth $1 MM. Steal for his services. Sharks blueline is dirty nasty good.
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I wonder if they’ll over stop confusing the WC and SC finals?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
Boyle + Burns is A+
Vlasic, Demers, Vandermeer, White, Braun?
Nothing crazy good in there, no more than many other teams’ #3-6 dmen.
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Vlasic is a good defenceman. White is a good #3. Demers is up and coming. Ya their defence is pretty good
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Good, yes
Stacked? I dunno.
Plenty of teams (on paper at least) have at least as good 3-6 in depth.
Hell, ignoring LD/RD for a second, if we assume the Leafs’ #1 and #2 are Phaneuf and Liles, our 3-6 is Gunnar, Franson, Schenn, Aulie (or Lashoff or Komi or whoever)
I don’t think SJ’s is best in the league to be sure.
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Other teams who have good D on paper
NSH, VAN, PIT (Martin, Michalek, Letang, Orpik? Shiiiit), CHI, PHI, LAK….
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If I was a team like SJ with a window on contending that’s quickly closing, I’d far rather have their defence.
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Douglas Murray is pretty good as well, Vlasic, and Demers are also solid.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
man
i miss hockey. is it october yet?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
Can we abolish August? I’m done with august.
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me too. once you’re no longer in school august is overrated.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel if I had a cottage it might be better.
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I would agree with this, but unles sit’s shiny new your vacations will be spent fixing up the cottage that you took a vacation away from work to get to.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. That’s why you buy crappy stuff, so you can be busy fixing it up. New stuff that works is boring.
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My cousin just rebuilt an engine while in the process of restoring his dad’s old ‘73 MG. He let me help out after summer school, it was one of the coolest things I’ve ever done.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But he’s done more than rebuild the engine. He put in a manual transmission then switched it back to a new stick, plus he fixed up the dashboard and some other random stuff. pretty cool, they have two jacks to raise the car right in their driveway.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i have. I’m more of a not do aything productive on vacation kind of guy.
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Fair enough, it depends what kind of mood I’m in. Recently I’ve been sleeping and playing golf but now I’ve got two jobs (one 9-5) and the other PT at the ACC plus I was in summer school. But I guess since you work all year round, it’s nice to do nothing over the summer eh
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
we go to the beach most days off so the kid can swim and i can get sunburnt. nothing’s better than a kid who’s been in the lake for 4 hours. a nice long mid afternoon I can finally play videogames nap.
i don’t mind small projects, i built a fence this long weekend but most of the time I’d rather not be working my time away from work.
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yeah I get that. some people still find it relaxing though, the guy who lives across the street from us just put down new grass and put in a sprinkler system by himself. well with his son’s help, but still.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
my point: I never got why adults liked doing stuff until now. it’s something to do and a sense of accomplishment/achievement is always nice after finishing a project. but hey, running your kids into the ground so they sleep for the rest of the day, been there done that.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
running your kids into the ground so they sleep for the rest of the day, been there done that.
I already do that every day with my dog.
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same. what type of dog?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
and now you’re set. it’s an important tool for all parents
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
niiiiiiccceee hahah. how old?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He just turned 2 in June. He’s pretty awesome, my parents were pretty impressed at how well we (it was mostly me) trained him when we brought him home last summer.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My new puppy just lost his manhood…
Hear that? That's the sound of leaf fans scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
Ya I wanted to name our dog Phil for a little while…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We decided on Opie. not too gender oriented I guess
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Ours is Swarley, all of my g/fs foreign family have a problem pronouncing it, it’s funny.
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Where are they from? We settled on Charlie, but he answers to Charles and Chuck which is pretty sweet
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, my dog will answer to anything if you add an enthusiastic inflection to it
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They’re all from the former Yugoslavia.
And yeah, ours answers to anything with enthusiastic inflection (as per below), but for variations of names he listens to “Swarley”, “Swarles”, “Swarlos” and “Swarl”.
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it’s still overrated
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How did he break it?
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we were at ribfest with some friends and we left early to go home to relive my dad of babysitting. they came home an hour later and when we went over in the morning there was a road closed sign in the living room (the barrier kind), one guy was buried under couch cushions being jumped on by 1 kid, and the other was puttig nmake u on him and my brother was in a cast
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ribfest in the beaches? maybe you saw me!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that sucks
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hey st catharines is a nice place! ( as long as you live by the school)
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THE school eh? only one school..?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just kidding, I really love st Catharines ( as long as you stay on the west side of Merrit street.
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Those east siders…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to place it so I had to look it up…thats the street to go into Thorold…no one goes there except Thoroldians. Poor Poor people
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
At least they have a cool name to call themselves. “Thoroldian” sounds badass.
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Yeah, but for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t want to be one. They have it hard
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not much in thorold, I lived in the far west of it, it had an awesome butcher, and a really nice, clean park to go for a run in.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
no no no, there’s an entire neighbourhood called secord woods. it’s scary, my friends lived there and were broken into 3 times in 1 week.
just east of merrit street in between 4th ave and Glendale yyyyeuuck
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Secord Woods, never been but I’ve heard the stories man… I’ve heard
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
OH NO. Don’t go to the “scary” side of that quiet, small Canadian city!
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Hahahaha I hope these guys realize I’ve never been to St. Catherines…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather go to most hoods in the USA than some of the scary side of some smaller canadian cities
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true, London’s probably one of the best examples of that.
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Or Vancouver
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more of Thunder bay, but London has one or two areas that make me a bit nervous at 3am when im walking alone
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you taking the East End or Westfort in T Bay? or I guess Bay street maybe the new standard since I left.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
lower fort william, around the reserve, some of those side roads off of Simpson
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ya Simpson street has always been bad. You generally don’t find yourself that close to the reserve alone at night unless you have a good reason to be over there.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we used to drive up to the mountian and under age drink (with a DD) at the lookout on the reserve
we had some scary run ins
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ya if your not with someone from the “mission” you could have issues if you run into the wrong people.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, and it was just a car full of rowdy white boys blasting limp bizkit half or dr dre, we didnt see a problem then,but looking back it was pretty silly to do
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been E of A by myself not sober around Dundas at midnight. Its scary, but not fucking terrifying.
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yup, some places in the states are much much much worse, no contest
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
pftt, they probably don’t even have a village idiot.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s where Brock University is, I can assure you there are MANY
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to go the Ribfest, but we were hot and tired so we went home and made burgers instead.
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That sucks, ribfest was awesome.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatevs, I don’t like Wonderland. Not jealous
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Behemoth? It sucks
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Roller coasters suck.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
lies!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
who do you take me for, Shield?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this gonna start some internet fisticuffs? Let me get my popcorn!
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it’s been a long day…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Pft
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not a liar yet! Just a liar in training! But roller coasters are awesome.
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But roller coasters are awesome.
You must be pretty dedicated to that training regimen
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I love them, so awesome (except for the crappy ones), if I was being a liar I’d say the opposite.
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Of things that I like, I love the good things but hate the bad ones.
Seems pretty straightforward
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate bad pizza, but I love good pizza.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and in general, I love pizza.
Are you, Mr. Shield, telling me this is a false statement?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Darien Lake a lot better for the price.
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I hate that stuff in general
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You experienced Maple and woodbridge.
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is it an experience?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If you never go back, I dont blame you.
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yeah I remember when I broke my hand, couldn’t play pattycake for so long :(
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Say “You don’t want to go out on a limb” a lot.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he play video games? Constantly ask him to play video games
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my friend broke his hand and managed to mess up the cast enough so that he could play NHL 09
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That’s dedication. I would probably just play a lot of Wii.
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tell him that he’s going to be all right ( if he broke his left hand)
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by thenumber14 on Aug 3, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WharnsCBCSPORTS Tim Wharnsby
Nashville’s Shea Weber is awarded a$7.5 million salary arbitration.
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Boom.
Uh, so how much does that translate for Schenn? $2M right?
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Wow, they definitely did not split the difference. That’s well above the $6.75 I had him pegged at.
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Maybe the Arbitrator was making a statement that it’s BS for the team to put in such a joke of a lowball submission. Like 8.5 is high but 4.5 is ridiculously low.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m curious how the figure was arrived at. Did Weber argue the actual salaries (not cap hits) of guys like Duncan Keith? There really aren’t any RFA d-men with $7.5 million contracts to compare to.
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by Ubiquitous on Aug 3, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Nice.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville should have submitted 1.5.
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Why would they do that?
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I think he was joking in regards to the “difference splitting” that arbitrators usually do.
NSH submitted $4.7M
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I guess it was hard for Poile to seriously argue that one of the best defencemen in the league deserved Komisarek money.
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yeeeep.
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Seems like Shea Weber is a guy you don’t nickel and dime.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither is Patrick Kane.
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by Shield on Aug 3, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 16 recs
That’s a rec’nin.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the funny part of all this
Nashville elected arbitration to prevent any offer sheets. Do you believe any team would have offered Weber a contract with a caphit of $7.5M? I sure don’t.
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A month ago I might have believed it, but after seeing no one even try to offer-sheet Stamkos, I doubt anyone would have offer-sheeted Weber either.
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Funnier part
Unless I’m mistaken, Nashville’s qualifying offer for Weber next year will be $7.5M.
Is it possible that’s the highest qualifying offer ever?
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So, like, nobody fantasizing about Nashville trading this contract and the Leafs getting in on it? Even a possibility?
Maybe in a year from now..
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of salary caps are cringing at the thought.
Hear that? That's the sound of leaf fans scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
celery cap
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You put too much stalk into your own opinion.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Aug 3, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
are you stocking people’s posts just to ironically mock their grammar?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 4, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a nice pipedream but honestly i’d rather dream about unicorn forwards rather than dmen, as we have a decent set that is young and growing right now.
Getting even deeper on D would be nice, but i’d rather add top 6 depth.
PARISE is the new hotness dontchaknow.
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Clearly you didn’t see Birky get lambasted for saying something similar up top.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He said he didn’t want Weber, not that he’d prefer Parise. I think most people would prefer a unicorn.
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I said I don’t believe we can have both. I’d rather have Parise or any unicorn than Weber.
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on this leafs team, I take Parise
to jump start a franchise from ground zero? harder choice
unicorn wins both races though
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ding ding ding
Especially $7.5M Weber. That $4.5M Weber would have been cool though.
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Leafer:
And if Parise resigns, you still pass on Weber?
Birky
yes. My feelings have nothing to do with Weber’s talent. He’s a great hockey player. The Leafs need to concentrate on their greatest need – first line talent. I think adding Weber would seriously impact the team’s ability to add offense.
Sorry, I wasn’t reading carefully and somewhat mis-summarize it. You are still saying here you wouldn’t want Weber because you want that room for a unicorn. But basically it amounts to the same thing, that you don’t want Weber no matter what because it would impact the ability to get a unicorn.
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Just let Weber’s beard line up at C.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Until we’ve got 4 elite defencemen, we haven’t got too many. Right now we have zero, maybe one if Phaneuf completely plays up to his potential.
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If it was Schenn + or Phaneuf + more, Phaneuf + more everytime.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Nashville can’t trade him for a year after arbitration? I think a few people were arguing about this earlier in the thread but I got a bit confused.
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by T is for Truculence on Aug 3, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t that the rule for offer sheets? You can’t match an offer sheet and then trade said player?
Maybe it’s a rule in this case as well…
Weber is the wrong play – what you do is remind Nashville that Suter is about 85% of the defenseman that Weber is and he’ll be expected to be paid that way as a UFA this coming July…. the same time Rinne is up for contract too…
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I'm over reading at OtF and they've almost unanimously jumped on the TRADE WEBER bandwagon.
Also being included on this stung a bit, sometimes I forget how our team is perceived around the league:
Not to mention after the season is over if someone wants to submit an offer to him they will have to give up 3 1st round picks at least if not more. Most all of the teams are not going to want to give up what it will take to get him anyways.
Detroit? SJ? Vancouver? Pit? Chicago?
And then we get 3 first rounders in the mid-20s. That’s getting nothing in return for Weber.
Fuck, send him to Toronto, Edmonton, or Ottawa if we’re getting picks.
Ouch.
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Do they not realize that even with paying Weber a butt load, they’re only $400k above the cap floor and have a lot of room to re-sign Rinne and Suter.
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I have but one thing to say to Nashville.
Lol lebda.
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by thenumber14 on Aug 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
They don’t realize how much it sucks to be stuck with lebad.
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LE-BAD
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
“Blade” is a palindrome for Lebda, as in Lebda can’t tell his stick blade from his skate blade from Blades of Steel.
by Self Destructive Zones on Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved that NES game… huh?!?! nobody else knows what NES is/was??!?!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 4, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Tickle Me Aulie on Aug 3, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
"Room" in NSH != "Room" for most.
Hell if they invest in all 3 I will be amazed and impressed.
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I think Rinne will be traded for a pretty good haul at some point this season.
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it seems to be what they always do in nashville, but it depends heavily on Lindback improving and one of the other prospects proving to be NHL ready
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Before I know who Lindback was
it was explained to me that pretty much NSH has the goalie development depth that they can essentially let a superstar goalie walk every year and they’ll be fine.
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kinda like their defense, yeah
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun, Mason, Ellis, even Dunham – all traded even though they were putting up at least good numbers for the franchise. With Rinne up for contract, it’ll depend entirely on how ready they think Lindback is. We’ll probably be able to tell their plan based on how many starts Lindback gets.
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Gotta spend money to make money, and they won’t be making money if they lose players like Weber, Suter, and Rinne and end up out of the playoffs.
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Weber is arguably the best player they’ve ever had. They can’t let him go.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Arguably? Who would you argue has been better (while on the Predators)?
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How good was Vokoun when he was on the Predators? He is one of the best post lockout goalies.
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remember when Ellis was on the preds and one of the best young up and comming goalers in the NHL?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
And they let Ellis go because Rinne was so good (and Ellis having mediocre season).
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He did put up a .912 over his tenure on the Preds. Although the hype was mostly because of his .924, 44 start rookie season…
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yeah, he struggled under a heavier work load and then he was traded and, well we all know how that ended
with the lulz
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
still lulz
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
was that Ellis or Mason? I know they let one of them walk at the end of the year. Maybe both.
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Weren’t Ellis’ rights traded to the Habs for Kostitsyn?
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that sounds familar, and the Habs didn’t sign Ellis before July 1st, so hey became a FA?
by Nigel Cadbury on Aug 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
2010-Jun-29 Traded from Nashville Predators with Dustin Boyd to Montreal Canadiens for Sergei Kostitsyn
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I wish he’d signed a long term deal there.
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And I’m not doubting it, I just can’t think of anyone. The only person I can think of is Vokoun, but his crazy good sv% numbers didn’t come until Florida.
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I think you're right
Here is the preds all time roster
Legwand is there all time points leader. So not him.
Timmonen is pretty damn good, but not quite there.
Arnott, Sullivan, Kariya and Forsberg (17 GP) were probably there best forwards.
Who knows what Radulov could have become.
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Here are their goalies
http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NSH/goalies.html
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Here is there PPG (50 minimum GP) leaders and GPG leaders
LOL at Kostitsyn being 9th in PPG and 6th in GPG. It looks like their best forwards have been Arnott, Sullivan, and Kariya. Other random comment: Yannick Perrault had a pretty damn good year there in 06-07
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The funny thing is that I would absolutely love to trade another first round pick or two right now. Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to move our picks for an elite player in the narrow window when our pick is likely to be the most overrated.
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yup, the Leafs finish in the mid to late teens range of picks and suddenly no one wants them all that bad
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be gambling on our goaltending yet again, but I would do it for the right player.
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pretty much, but then if we are going the picks for talent route next year, Id much rather snag some Tavares
Weber is flat out amazing but there are other holes that need filling
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy do I have a trade proposal for them!
First, we re-acquire Stajan, Hagman, and Jamal Mayers…
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by Bower Power on Aug 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
with Weber and Parise the Leafs pick will be 30th over all the next 3 years
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
TL;DR
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 3, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Jared, congratulations!
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
when you have one, you gotta be one!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
an asshole? so you’re saying everyone has to be an asshole?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes my mother is blind, you gotta problem with that, huh? huh, Bub? Huh?
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yes my face is blind you gotta problem with that, huh? huh, Bub? huh?
Nifty Mittens
by MapleLeafMole on Aug 3, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
When it was first posted I saw it, but when I left and came back it was gone (probably blocked by my work)… seems like they catch these things as the page loads but not as they are posted.
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Rather than having Weber attend the hearing, a picture of this was posted in his place.
Hear that? That's the sound of leaf fans scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
by Saucepass on Aug 3, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I remember watching that and turning to my girlfriend and saying “I think he just shot the puck through the net . . .”
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Brent Johnson has a Zepplin-themed mask.
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That’s awesome. Going to listen to Physical Graffiti now…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty big news. (From PD's links)
Alex Ovechkin’s agent tells Tarik El-Bashir that Ovi won’t be back with CCM when their deal is up at the end of the month. Reports are that he’s leaving for Bauer.
Essentially say goodbye to the CCM brand because Ovi’s endorsement was the only thing keeping it afloat.
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Lulz. I hate CCM sticks, used a Vector once and I hated it. Nike Bauer and Easton are far and away the best sticks out there.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
my old CCM tacks were the best skates ever
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I had CCM tacks as a kid once, hated them, never bought them again.
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i wore em all through my “career” then about 5 years ago i went to get new ones as mine had fallen to pieces and the new ones were horrible
ended up with some synergys (for cheap) they are ok
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I mentioned this on twitter, but if the Leafs already hadn’t pulled off the Lombardi deal, there would be a rush for one now, and if people with the cap space were clamoring for Franson, I doubt the Preds would’ve elected to take back Lebda in that case. The Leafs came out ahead because Burke and the coterie of GMs got ahead of everyone else on that.
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Burke mentioned Nonis specifically as the one who came up with the idea, and yeah, they get full marks for that move.
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All credit and faults lie with the guy who’s got his head on the chopping block.
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Burke always dispenses the kudos, but he keeps the fault for himself
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And yet I don’t feel that bad for him…. once Toronto turns around he’s going to eat a lot of the praise too.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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i dont feel bad for him either, it’s what he wants
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d just like to mention that I just bought a car, a big deciding factor in choosing this one was that it had Leafs floor mats.
whatcha get?
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 3, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Just hope he doesn’t ruin your gearbox.
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BCWW
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet! I don’t have Leafs floor mats but have a Leafs licence plate, and a leafs “seatbelt cover” on my middle backseat seatbelt.
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If you live in Ontario I recommend investing in the generic Leafs logo licence plate. It just gives you random numbers and either TM, ML, or TL but it has a Leafs logo so it’s awesome.
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My brother and I both have them, so when we’re home for the summer our driveway reps the Leafs. I don’t think they’re as expensive as full custom plates.
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No, it’s like the actualy plate. Instead of the AAAA 111 its ##TM## and has a Leafs logo, I think it costs like $15 more than a regular plate.
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$15???
You could buy a whole beer at the ACC for that!
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You think they’d customize my Michigan plate with the Leaf logo!??
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 4, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, there should be such thing as a Leafs floor Mats, which is just a floor mat with Sundins face on it.
Out, vile Habs fan! There will be no stomping on Sundin’s face here!
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Weber has confirmed what Elliott Friedman has been saying for a while – that what Weber is really concerned about is whether or not the Predators are willing to commit to putting together a winning team. To me, that means that Nashville has little choice but to sign Suter and Rinne to big deals unless they’re willing to lose Weber as well. And that would pretty much finish the franchise off. Tough spot to be in.
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is anyone here?
anyone have a good streaming movie site to use?
by pho king awesome on Aug 3, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Netflix
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh you said good
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by Draglikepull on Aug 3, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sidereel is good for TV, not sure about movies. It mostly links to sites with Megavideo or VideoBB copies, which only allow 72 minutes watched and then you gotta wait an hour which is stupid and annoying
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Every wednesday night is Trivia night at the local bar here in Madison, WI. I’m walking by with my dog, and my neighbour comings running out to talk to me. She asks me:
What NHL team hasn’t won the cup since 1967?
Sigh….
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Hahahahahaha wait is that a true story? That’s pretty funny
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
totally true. just happened 5 minutes ago.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s amazing.
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
the even sadder thing is that she already knew the answer
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
she know you’re a Leaf fan?
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by happiergilmore on Aug 3, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
she may have assumed; she knows I’m from Toronto.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 3, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you answer LA?
Or St. Louis?
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Ottawa or vancouver, its technically correct!
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 4, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No, neither were formed franchises. The question “Which team has not won SINCE 1967” would insinuate that they won in 1967…
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by happiergilmore on Aug 4, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You live in Madison, I was there for work a couple months back. To think, there was another Leaf fan in town probably watching the start of the finals at the same time… sigh
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 4, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Chemmy passed through here at about the same time as well….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Aug 4, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
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