Colton Orr vs Matt Carkner - Rounds 1-6
by Curtis Tudor on Aug 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT
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Fighters - Colton Orr, Matt Carkner
This is the first fight in what has turned out to be a great and fairly one sided fighting rivalry.
More fight talk and a look at all the fights between Colton Orr and Matt Carkner after the jump.
First fight
Carkner and Wallin (man he was terrible) make contact and then Carkner and and Orr meet each other for the very first time.
The gloves come off and and both start firing right hands. This was a bad idea by Carkner as he finds himself on the wrong end of the right hands and gets put down to the ice.
Thoughts on the fight
Ouch for Carkner
Orr must have felt like one tough SOB skating towards the bench.
Why is a reporter like Paul Hendrick between the benches? He brings nothing but awkwardness to the games
While on the ice the linesman almost cut Carkner's finger off with his skate.
Why was the home crowd in Ottawa cheering for that? Oh wait.
Second fight
They find each other on the ice again and the gloves come off and again they both start throwing right hands. This time Carkner tags Orr above the eye with a huge shot and puts him to the ice.
Thoughts on the fight
When two big men go toe to toe with huge right hands bad things will happen. That shot turned Orr's eye black and blue and bloody immediately.
Thankfully the video ended while Paul Hendrick was mid sentence, I can't stand him and have no clue why he calls games between the benches.
Third fight
This one was with the National audience on CBC's Hockey Night in Canada.
This comes right off the faceoff and they skate right past center ice before they engage. Like the first two fights all they throw is right hands and like the first two fights it ends badly for one of them. This ends badly for Carkner who gets knocked out cold and goes limp like he is fighting in the UFC, he gets the wake up call once he hits the ice.
Thoughts on the fight
If my memory is right Carkner was somehow allowed to come back in this game after the fight
The look on Phil Kessel's face after the fight is priceless
Fourth fight
Colton Orr runs Brian Lee late and Carkner comes in, after the linesman gets stuck in the middle between them he realizes its a bad spot to be and gets out of the way.
Thoughts on the fight
Wasn't as good as the first three and we have to listen to Garry Galley but its another win for Orr and he lets everyone know hes taken 3/4 as he skates off the ice.
Fifth fight
When these two fight they only want to go toe to toe and throw right hands. This is a competitive fight and Orr once again gets the win.
Thoughts on the fight
Second game of the season last year
Have to love the score of the game
Remember when the Leafs started off 1 and 0, then 2 and 0 then 3 and 0 and 4 and 0? Good times.
Sixth fight
Carkner thinks the way he can beat Orr for the second time is if he runs right at him off a faceoff.
He is wrong and Orr puts him on his back.
Thoughts on the fight
Again look at the score, anytime the Leafs win its a good thing.
This was the sixth and final fight for them, could be the last depending on Orr's health.
Wins
Colton Orr 5 - Matt Carkner 1
Next fight post comes tomorrow!
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Down Goes Carkner
That’s worth about one million a year.
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by DoubleDion on Aug 8, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Why is a reporter like Paul Hendrick between the benches? He brings nothing but awkwardness to the games
How else are we going to know whether or not a shot was tipped?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Three square shots to the bugle Joe
These aren't the droids you're looking for.....
by TheNadger on Aug 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Neil, Carkner and Konopka is a scary line straight from the 70’s.
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Aug 8, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
So many goals against.
Crazy thing is that Carkner is one of their best defensemen so having him in the box is more detrimental than Orr.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 8, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Carkner in the divider after Komi did that beautiful kung-fu-shuffle and just shifted all of him over the boards.
You’re thinking of Francis Lessard. That was maybe the best meeting of heavyweights of the pre-season (Frank and Regis, that is). Welterweight undercard goes to Beauchemin and Kovalev. Good times …
I sure hop Orr can come back this year. How else is Carkner supposed to even their series up at 4 Wins apiece. That’s right, I said four.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Errr
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I was at that game. Couldn’t tell it was Kovalev from our seats and lost my mind when I found out it was him.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
said video...
just for the sake of awesome : http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Leafs-Komisarek-sends-Sens-Lessard-into?urn=nhl-271716
ha ha check out pierre mcguire squealing as if he’s just seen a mouse when Lessard joins him on the bench.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 8, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Serves Brian Lee right for admiring his pretty face in the reflection of the ice.
If you don’t want to get rabbit-punched, then keep (the front of) your head up.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, so which of those 5 fights did Carkner manage to “win” while ending up on his back?!?!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 8, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Carkner won the second fight. I didn’t think this was disputed by anyone.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he won that one handily
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And that was the ONLY one he won (out of 6). In my world 6-1 = 5 (for Orr).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad I don’t live in your world ;-)
My Sens would never have won the 2003 President’s trophy, what with the Leafs’ 54-28 record being better than the Senators at 52-30
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, allow me to catchup. When did we start talking about amazing regular season finishes turning into playoff flops?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Aug 9, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
No matter how you look at it, Matt Carkner is not one of their best defencemen. He’s actually one of their worst, and that’s saying something.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he may not score as often as Karlsson or Gonchar, but then again Luke Schenn may not score as often Liles.
So if you’d rank Carkner among the worst 6 regular blueliners on the Sens, then I’d argue that he’s actually among the best six. But if you insist that he is worse than Kuba or Brian Lee, then we goa have a problem ;-)
Point remains valid though: losing Carkner for 5 minutes hurts more than having Orr in the box for 5 minutes a game. Unless, of course, you are one of the many Leafs fans who would welcome an ATOI of 0:04 for Colton …
Until the Sens employ a 4th-line winger for the purposes of fighting, Orr would be wise to take out any of the regular guys for five minutes (like Konopka or Neil or Carkner). Ottawa needs to be dressing a guy like Conboy or Lessard or Ray Emery for every game against the Leafs, to allow their skilled (LOL) players to stay out of the box.
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree totally, it is similar to, say, Chris Neil fighting Luke Schenn. a very good trade off for the Sens
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 8, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure Neil would gladly trade his two front teeth for that purpose …. wait, what?
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, that was great because Orr gave a beat down in round one and then Carkner brutalized his face in the second round. You know Colton was just stewing over that round two beatdown for the month or so he was unable to fight. He definitely unleashed some fury.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
the 4th fight was such a let down to me, not that it was horrible, just that the first three were so descisive
I was also really hoping Hanson would go with Fisher and hulk out like he did in the preseason, but instead we got to see Schenn get wrestled to the ice
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Carkner really wanted nothing to do with Orr after having such a long shift, so it wasn’t a very great fight, but Colton skating away throwing up the “three” was pretty cool.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was sayin’, “Wess-siiiiede”
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What is Orr’s deal anyway? I tried finding an injury update or something a few weeks back and last word was back in late March I think when Burke said something along the lines of him being back top finish last season. Obviously that didn’t happen, but wondering if he’s good to go for training camp?
He’s fine. Burke was quoted as saying that Orr could’ve played, but they wanted to be conservative because it was a brain related injury.
Realistically, Burke probably just didn’t want Orr screwing up the good thing we had going for us.
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I think it was more that because Orr isn’t an essential piece, and was easily replaceable with Rosehill, that there was no reason for him to play. They might as well let him recuperate the whole year – even if, technically, he could play – because, as was said, it was a brain injury.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The fourth fight Garry Galley goes on like Orr jumps right off the bench to go after Carkner who had just played a long shift when in reality Carkner’s shift length was just only 5 or 6 seconds longer.
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No problem with Garry Galley, bro.
Sure, he’s a Sens homer. But hey, you guys have tons of Leafs homers on HNIC. Bob Cole, Greg Millen, Glenn Healy,…
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
You’re joking. Glen Healy?
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Yeah, but now when I think of it, he annoys everyone.
Worst goalie ever, yet thinks he can take jabs at others. But it just seems to me that when he’s the third guy in Leafs-Sens games or Leafs-Habs games, he’s supporting T-Dot.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
The worst backup goalies make the best commentators. Why? Well, they’ve watched a lot of hockey and know every possible way a goal can be scored.
That said, Glen Healy is super annoying.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You’d be bitter too if they passed you over to hire JFJ
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly can’t say he supports anyone, but he seems to hate on the Leafs with every second sentence. The rest of his sentences are hating on whoever else is in the game. I think he’s just bitter as hell that he’s completely useless.
"Callgirl! She was a callgirl!"
"No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!"
24/02/11: I was there.
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I really have no clue why CBC uses him for a lot of games
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Neither do I. He thinks being objective is hating both teams equally.
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"No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!"
24/02/11: I was there.
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His negativity gets really grating. Cheer up, Heals! It’s a hockey game, we’re supposed to be having fun.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Gary Gally sucks, and not just because he’s a Sens homer, he just isn’t good
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by JaredFromLondon on Aug 8, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s no Denis Potvin, but then again, Potvin has a voice for blogging to go with his radio face
by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Potvin's horrible.
Galley’s okay. He meshed well with Dean Brown.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
The rivalry was overrated, IMO.
Not just cause I’m a Sens fan, and cause Orr won the “series”, but because only the first two fights were good and after that it was very sluggish, especially the last one.
Carkners beaten a lot of heavyweights in the NHL, but obviously Orr has gotten the best of him and is the better fighter. Yet, Carks is the better “player” and contributes more to his team then Orr would.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Carkner is certainly the better player considering he can actually play a consistent shift, but he still isn’t a good hockey player.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree.
Never said he was a good hockey player. He’s valuable to a team looking for a swingman on the dime, and can bring ’em down with heavyweights. Just said he brings more then Orr.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Of course, I figured you didn’t think he was a good hockey player.
by Five Minutes For Fighting on Aug 8, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No no, he's not that good. He can only score goals on Marc-Andre Fleury for some reason.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Orr sniped on Brodeur, your argument is invalid.
Crazy would be NOT overanalyzing everything.
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by Spezzal Teams Playa on Aug 8, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Rickard Wallin also snipe on Brodeur?
If Wallin can do it, anyone can do it bro.
If Charlie Sheen played for the Leafs, the Leafs would be #winning. If LeBron James played for the Cavs, oh wait, he already did that.
Was just talking about ole Goggles today!
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