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Leafs Prospect Pipeline Appears Headed in Right Direction - James Mirtle at the Globe and Mail
Toronto hasn't made the playoffs since 2004, but in recent years, you wouldn't know it looking at their minor league club. The Marlies team that had 109 points in the standings in 2007-08 ultimately produced exactly one player – fourth-line centre Darryl Boyce – expected to be on the team this season, an incredible lack of development of prospects of any sort.
While those AHL teams won games, they did so with mostly minor-league veterans. This season, win or lose, the Marlies will almost certainly have young players with NHL potential like Jake Gardiner, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne, Jesse Blacker and Ben Scrivens playing key roles.
Groups that rank prospects, meanwhile, have shifted the Leafs up the list, with Hockey's Future placing them ninth in their latest rankings and Hockey Prospectus putting them 11th.
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RE: Schenn
The fact that Bob McKenzie is on board with the Friday expected signing makes me think it’s indeed likely.
3 years would be great to keep him RFA at the end…. but if that ~$4M number is true….. well Don Meehan is taking GMs to school. And Doughty might end up a gajillionaire.
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I think that’s a fair price. Would have liked 3.5-3.9 but if Schenn continues to get develop it could be a bargain by year 2 or 3.
Well, if we’re paying for expected potential as opposed to his current skill level then I would like to see a longer term deal. The whole point of deals that pay for future potential is buying out UFA years.
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to say I disagree.
Ryan Suter’s cap hit is 3.5m. Marc Staal’s cap hit is just under 4m. 4m for Schenn is in no way a fair price, and it’s extremely doubtful that would become a bargain in 2 or 3 years.
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I agree
Its one of those stupidly high contracts just because he was a top 5 pick and played in teh NHL young. Based on his skill set I just don’t see how he’ll be a player earning that contract.
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how many times do you think Meehan mentioned Komi’s contract during discussions to raise the price? About a gazillion before Leafs gave in just not to be reminded of Komi anymore?
Comparing UFA/RFA is Apples/Oranges. Shouldn’t be compared at all, or only in general terms, not $ / cap hit
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If we’re getting all the way up to 4M for Schenn, I’d like to own a UFA year or two.
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Ya I disagree.
This paying for potential stuff is bullshit. He should have come in $3-3.5. I think Meehan’s tactics and negotiations earned Schenn $1.5-$3M more for his whole contract.
He’s no Marc Staal. Some can argue cap/price inflation since that contract, but these second contracts are starting to become stupid.
I can’t imagine $4M will be considered a bargain in 2-3 years unless he turns into the next Suter, Seabrook, etc.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s no Marc Staal.
Their career stats in goals, assists and points per game are nearly identical. On top of that Schenn is already among the league leaders in hits and blocked shots, at age 21. We can argue whether Staal should have ever gotten paid $3.9m or whatever it was, but there’s not a whole lot to suggest Schenn isn’t at least as good or as valuable as Staal is at this point in time.
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It’ll be interesting to see what he gets. I’m bracing for $4Mish
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The biggest difference thus far has been the competition they’ve played against.
Staal plays against other teams’ top lines and Schenn doesn’t.
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Ya their offense has almost been identical (comparing Schenn’s 1st three years to M Staal’s 1st three years), and Schenn was playing almost the same TOI as Staal was in his year before his contract (22M vs 23M). Main difference would seem to be, as you said, level of competition and that Schenn is 2 years younger.
It would have been a decent argument for Meehan to say that Schenn = Staal, and he should get the same $. Personally I think Staal is better than Schenn, but he’s also 3 years older right now. By the time he hits 24 it could be a different story.
Personally I just hope the contract ends with Schenn still RFA.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to gauge the reason for that. Is it because Staal is 2 years older so he’s had more time to mature and earn that top pairing role? Or is it because other than Staal, the Rangers employ(ed) the likes of Dan Girardi and Michal Roszival as their other “top” d-men this past season?
Another thing is that Staal probably gets considerable PP time while Schenn gets next to nothing, and they still put up identical numbers.
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Can’t really compare Staal right now vs. Schenn right now because of the difference in age and in experience.
We’re talking abstractly; Schenn’s first three years in the league vs. Staal’s first three years in the league.
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Agreed. Anyway hopefully he comes in at around $4m and hopefully he’s still RFA at the end of it.
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Staal plays against other teams’ top lines and Schenn doesn’t.
Is that reflective of Schenn, or of Schenn’s defensive partners while playing in Toronto? (Kaberle, Gunnarsson, White, and Finger)
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Either way, he still doesn’t do it
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by leafer1984 on Sep 14, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that either means he can’t, or it just means that Wilson hasn’t matched him up as such yet. Regardless I don’t think you can simply say Schenn isn’t as good as Staal because he doesn’t face tough opposition, because that’s out of his control. If you don’t know, then you don’t know.
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by SkinnyFish on Sep 14, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you don’t know, then you don’t know.
Isn’t that as good a reason as any not to pay him as much as Staal – since we don’t know?
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone’s saying anything other than so far Luke Schenn hasn’t played against as tough opposition as Marc Staal.
Not that he can’t. Not that we won’t. Just that he hasn’t in the past.
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Exactly. The Leafs can’t pay him that much under the assumption that he can
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This paying for potential stuff is bullshit
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather pay for what I can project somebody will do in the future versus paying for what they did in the past and have statistically low odds of ever repeating (coughBradRichardscoughcough)
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait for the 2016-17 season where they wheel him out on a stretcher to take the opening faceoff.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
While paying him his fair salary, of course. Surely he will complete that deal in its entirety, like Kovulchuk. Nothing to see here, move along.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
None of that will matter if he helps NYR win the Cup before then.
Risk/Reward. I have no doubt he won’t be worth that contract in a few years.
Also…. I didn’t actually think he’d get something THAT stupid. Was really hoping for that 5-6 tops, where he’d be useful for 3 maybe 4 of them.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I really have a profound problem with these kinds of contracts, but you’re right. The cup is all that matters for these teams, though I’d argue there’s a price to be paid down the road.
The NHL needs to stop these contracts entirely. Does anyone really think they will play them entirely? Kovulchuk plays until he is 43/44? Ridiculous. The NHL has really looked like its ruled by monkeys, given their consistency or lack thereof. Actually, that’s just about the most consistent thing we get from Bettman and co.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I often wonder
if we would, collectively as Leafs fans, have this same opinion if Burke was okay with long-term deals and chose to utilize them himself.
Could we not easily use the excuse “it’s part of the rules, if he’s utilizing them in a manner that best benefits the club then he’s not doing everything he can to win”?
I’m wondering if our resident bias experts can tell me if I’m only against long-term contracts because Burke is, and if instead we had landed Kovalchuk/Richards to those deals, my opinion would be completely different.
Man it’s tough thinking for myself.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I wouldn’t accept them from him either. He may be our GM, but our discussions over the years show we don’t think he’s infallible. But I do think he’s right that these deals violate the spirit of the CBA pretty profoundly, particularly as this activity is tacitly condoned (or at least not stopped) by the NHL and is increasingly adopted by GMs.
It isn’t part of the rules. It just undermines them rather than violates them, because there is no rule to prevent it. If it were up to me, I’d bad contracts longer than 10 years but I know some people disagree. At the very least, I would change the rules for 30+ contracts to ensure they are not designed to circumvent the cap by including seasons the player will not play. That and the NHL needs to flex its muscles and reject these contracts right off the bat, and significantly penalize teams if they make Kovulchuk sized contracts. That contract still bothers me to this day. It would bother me if it was Crosby signed until he was 43/44, and I’d want the NHL to flat out reject it – more than the one time they kind of did, and then just let NJ do the same thing over again.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If teams want to sign players to 20/$200m contracts ($10m AAV), I say let them.
But if they want to sign players to those contracts for the purpose of artificially lowering its AAV, that’s where I have a problem with it.
It’s not the length, but the intent.
I’m fine with that compromise, but I guess I’m just old-fashioned and don’t think contracts need to be 10-20 years long.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. The Leafs can’t pay him that much under the assumption that he can
But the big thing this summer is paying for potential and Schenn’s agent knows that. That’s why I expect Schenn to get paid more than we think he will. Also remember, guys like Staal and Suter were signed under a smaller salary cap ($8M less for Staal; $14M less for Suter)
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
They’ll have some space when and if Lidstrom ever retires, very possible.
DET is down with those long-tail deals too (if they don’t get fixed somehow in the next CBA)
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Good guess. Boy, WeberWatch is going to be fun next year if they lose him. Especially if Rinne goes, too.
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Why WeberWatch (pending RFA) when you can PariseWatch (pending UFA)
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Because there’s the suggestion that Weber is bailing if they lose Suter and/or Rinne, both of whom are UFA and set up to become two of the highest paid players at their positions.
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
If you guys thought I was annoying about Richards (and I clearly was), PariseMania is gunna be nuts.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
If Nashville had the abiliity to spend up to the cap they’d the scariest goddamn team in the league.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I get the paying for potential. I fully expect his AAV to be around 3.8
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Hmm… if I wasn’t a lazy man (and I am), I’d see what the contracts looked like from a % cap perspective when they signed.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Staal at $4M = 7% of $56M (Rangers spend to cap)
Suter at $3.5 = 7% of $50M (But Nashville doesn’t spend to the cap, so really it was like a 9% of around $40M.
Schenn at $4M = 6.2% of $64.3M
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Staal should probably have a small premium over Schenn because of the QOC issue shown above.
If Staal was signed at 7% of the cap, and Schenn gets signed at 6ish%, that seems kinda reasonable to me.
It’s not Schenn’s fault the pie got bigger.
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It’s not Schenn’s fault the pie got bigger.
Nope, which is why I just now am coming to grips with him likely getting $4M and we’re gunna have to deal with it.
Oy. I guess this is what it’s like to have to actually pay top prospects.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Right. We all agree that it’s Wilson’s fault right?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith Acton.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Meanwhile Brian Burke’s RFA work has been excellent. Remember rumors about Kulemin and Gustavsson?
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I don’t think you can simply say Schenn isn’t as good as Staal because he doesn’t face tough opposition
I’m not the one saying that.
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There is plenty to suggest Staal is significantly better than Schenn at this time. Staal is one of the best defensive hockey players in the NHL. Staal has consistently been on the ice against the opposition’s best players for the last three seasons. On top of that, an extremely low number of goals are scored against the Rangers when Staal is on the ice. So not only is he getting incredibly difficult defensive assignments, he’s excelling in that role.
Marc Staal is quite possibly the second best defender in the league after Nick Lidstrom.
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Marc Staal is quite possibly the second best defender in the league after Nick Lidstrom
This is possibly one of the most incorrect statements you have ever made
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I didn’t say “defenseman”. I said “defender”. As in, playing in his own zone.
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Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
In chart form if possible.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
correction:
charts with titles
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
And labelled axes. Well then, I guess everything checks out.
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
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You’re the one who made the outrageous statement, back it up
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...
here’s a link to a quick list I threw together of a few players and where they ranked last season in some defensive metrics
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by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lidstrom has regressed a lot the past couple seasons. He is no longer the best defender in the NHL. Staal probably isn’t either but he is up there. I’d definitely put Chara, Suter and Weaver (look him up, he is good) ahead of him, maybe a few others but Staal is definitely a far better defender than Schenn.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
how dare you say anything against Lidstrom, don’t know you know the man never makes a mistake.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Weaver? That’s like that Caps fan who said Jeff Schultz should have been considered for the Canadian Olympic Team
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+50
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He then likened Mike Green to Bobby Orr
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Yes, Weaver. Plays against tough competition, gets a high percentage of defensive zone starts, doesn’t give up many goals against when he is on the ice.
Schultz is probably under rated by many/most, but probably not deserving of a spot on the Canadian Olympic team.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not? How about definitely not.
Also Weaver plays those minutes and gets those zone starts because they have no one else in Florida to do it.
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Doesn’t matter why Weaver gets those minutes, he does get those minutes and he does get good results. He has one of the lowest on ice goals against average over the past 3 seasons (5th of 166 defensemen with >1250 minutes 5v5close ice time): http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?disp=1&db=200811&sit=5v5close&pos=defense&minutes=1500&type=goal&sort=A20&sortdir=ASC
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s that guys name again?….He’s gone to WSH for real cheap?…Vokoun. That’s it.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He plays in front of arguably the best goalie in the league though (Vokoun).
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Arguably, though I’d argue not. I am definitely interested to see what Vokoun can do in Washington.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Put up between a .920 and a .925, win the division handily, go deep in the postseason, sign for big bucks somewhere else.
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For reals.
Now that he’s no longer playing behind defensive stalwarts Mike Weaver and (has to look up Florida roster) Jason Garrison, he could easily get exposed as the greatest goaltending fraud of all time.
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by SkinnyFish on Sep 14, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had no idea who Mike Weaver was and I could probably name at least 300 current NHLers from memory.
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Let's play a game.
Florida Panthers Defenseman or Just a Random Name?
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Active roster from last year?
I’ll say random.
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10th Overall Pick. Sounds like a Milbury.
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
We’re talking about last year right?
I am going with Random name again.
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Panthers… prospect?
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Random Name
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have said random, even though I see people are wrong.
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Panther (he was the return in a large trade I believe. Jokinen maybe?)
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Pretty sure that’s real.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Kulikov and that guy who was on the Bruins.
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Dennis Wideman or did he get traded?
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OH
Brian Campbell!
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I was pretty impressed by some of the advanced stats those two put up upon first look. And then the lot of you were kind enough to remind me that despite Keith Ballard’s best efforts, they played in front of Tomas Vokoun
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Context
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe DeBoer was just a really good coach?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Weirdly enough
You’re not the first I have heard to say Weaver and hsi partner were the best shutdown pair last year.
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Who was his partner? Garrison? He had fairly decent qualcomp numbers as well.
Also, I gotta register to check line combos on Dobber Hockey now? When did this happen?
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Yes, Garrison was his main partner.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Gosh I wonder if playing in front of consistent .925 goaltending helps.
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Let’s run a regression first.
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Get out of here with your context
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Definitely not a York student.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's a great response
I guess no one reads the paper
I read the story online. Was flabbergasted.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind. Found it. The sad thing is, is some idiot I know posted it on facebook to get people riled up. I didn’t believe him and now here is the truth he is an idiot.
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Slightly confused as to how you managed to interpret what this was referring to from “definitely not a York student”. Clearly I’m missing something here ;)
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Went on to google news. Searched York. It came up.
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That has nothing to do with it, clearly. Everyone knows that Aulie Weaver is actually just really good when he’s in front of Reimer Vokoun, and will in no way regress next season.
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Komisarek makes $4.5M
Your argument is invalid.
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by theninjagreg on Sep 14, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
These are the defenseman making 4 mil/year
35 Whitney, Ryan EDM 4.000 4.000 5.000 5.500 UFA
36 Meszaros, Andrej PHI 4.000 4.000 4.000 4.750 5.500 UFA
37 Michalek, Zbynek PIT 4.000 4.000 4.000 4.000 4.000 4.000 UFA
38 Ehrhoff, Christian BUF 4.000 0.000 10.000 8.000 4.000 4.000 4.000
39 Gilbert, Tom EDM 4.000 4.000 5.000 3.500 3.000 UFA
40 Zidlicky, Marek MIN 4.000 4.000 4.000 4.000 UFA
Note though that I believe ALL were UFA contracts. Schenn is an RFA so I would argue we should be comparing him to UFA’s signed at roughly 20% higher.
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If you read a bit more into the thread above
Staal at $4M = 7% of $56M (Rangers spend to cap)
Suter at $3.5 = 7% of $50M (But Nashville doesn’t spend to the cap, so really it was like a 9% of around $40M.
Schenn at $4M = 6.2% of $64.3M
It’s not as outrageous as you think relative to the cap at the time for other RFAs.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Get excited all you Canadians!
Canada beat Tonga 25-20 in the Rugby World Cup! Also you guys have this guy,
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OMG
We unfroze a caveman for this tournament? We’re really taking it seriously!
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Worth losing sleep over. Great win for the lads; some unbelievable defence at the end.
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by torleafsfan29 on Sep 14, 2011 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GARRRGGH!
I was trying to avoid seeing the result!! Why did I scroll?? Why!!
That’s f&*kin awesome though!
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
for serious
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
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I had the 2002 Gold Medal game spoiled similarly
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SPOILED FOR YOU BY JOE SAKIC
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by leafer1984 on Sep 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
HIGH FIVE
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/highfive
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
woo hoo! USA USA US.. oh wait a minute…
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
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A Canadian would never have suffered that fate.
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by PPP on Sep 14, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, a Canadian would have been allowed to stay up and watch the game
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a canadian would have been stoned in the streets for missing the game
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, a Canadian would have been allowed to stay up and watch the game
It was on at like 3pm!
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NOT ON NBC TAPE DELAY OF DOOOOOOOOOOOM
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uh, I watched it in the early afternoon and i’m in California… it was shown live.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
2002 or 2010?
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I suspect they’re talking 2010 and i’m talking about 2002.
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Canada trying to hang on… They get a break… it’s gonna be a break… it’s gonna be Joe Sakiiiccc…. SCORES! JOE SAKIC SCORES!! AND THAT MAKES IT 5 – 2 CANADA! Surely, thats gotta be it!!
by samspade on Sep 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
/swoon
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I just jizzed in my pants a little.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Canada trying to hang on… They get a break… it’s gonna be a break… it’s gonna be Joe Sakiiiccc…. SCORES! JEEEYOE SAKIC SCORES!! AND THAT MAKES IT 5 – 2 CANADA! Surely, thats gotta be it!!
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i unfortuantely had to listen to Gary fuckin Thorne call the game. I did buy the Going for Gold dvd of the 2002 team though.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Was at the game in 2002 and will freely admit to full blown waterworks after Sakic scored. That and hugging and high fiving random fans. I miss that feeling.
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by torleafsfan29 on Sep 14, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Generally I agree. I just figured rugby was different considering the coverage it gets in North America.
Lesson learned.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Snape kills Vader who is really Luke’s father who has been a ghost all along.
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by Learn2Leaf on Sep 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Such an awesome game! Kleeberger can stop players with his beard alone!
Also, front and center in one of my favourite pictures of this year:
How do you defend against that?
This I like
Their lineout was absolute shite in the 2 games against the US last month
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I
i heard tonga rested 11 regulars for this game. Maybe they should have only rested 8 or 9?
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 14, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man did I ever miss 30 thoughts.
10. Tavares, by the way, made some adjustments to his game during the summer. He was coy about it, allowing only that he’s worked on his skating stride and his shot. (He did admit he will be shooting from different spots in the offensive zone.) It’s the same point in Crosby’s career that number 87 addressed his own shot, with extremely beneficial results.
I know we’ve previously argued about the definition of “breakout season”, but I think even after great production last year, this year Tavares shows why he was the #1 pick.
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Also.... whoa on Tavares and Myers
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Nothing official just yet, but John Tavares and Tyler Myers on verge of big, multi-year contract extensions with NYI and BUF, respectively.
Both deals are expected to be in 6 year range, give or take a year, and worth an average of $5.5M, give or take a few hundred thousand.
But how is Burke going to get Tavares now????
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The same way LA got richards
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why anyone would sign a long-term contract on the Island right now. That just seems stupid
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re building around a young core of talented players. They probably aren’t going to be bad for much longer. Yeah, you have to suffer through the ground floor of that, but it’s probably easier than hoping to be some hanger-on UFA they add for a run.
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I’m more concerned about the instability of the team. If I don’t know whether the Islanders are going to be in Quebec or Las Vegas or Medicine Hat or something in two years, I don’t know if I want to sign for six.
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Tavares is 20. If the goal is to walk away, he needs something like 5-7 more years before he gets to UFA (I don’t remember which, someone else will). As we can see in LA (Doughty), PHX (Turris), and even NYI (Bailey), holding out as an RFA isn’t exactly a method for getting moved to another team.
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holding out as an RFA isn’t exactly a method for getting moved to another team.
Don’t be too hastey – plenty of time for trades/holdouts to materialize.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus it worked for Kessel.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone will give two firsts and a second for Tavares
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d do it right now.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Tavares at 5.5M will be worth it.
Myers…. ya that seems high.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Its decent if they’re going to keep playing him 23 minutes a game… and he vows never to dye his hair BRIGHT BLOND ever again.
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$5.5M is a huge price tag.
They better be damn sure he’s going to keep his current play up for the next 6 years.
I wonder if CGY regrets giving Phaneuf $6.5M for 6 years after his ELC was up….
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s funny to watch them light the new found pegula-dollars on fire, though. Gonna need some cheap replacements for the four up for contract next year if they want to give Myers 5.5.
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They may very well be in “win-now” mode, or at least “win-next-few-years-while-Miller-is-still-spectacular”
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Miller’s not going to be great forever. But spending for the sake of spending is kind of dumb. Is the team really that much closer to winning with the likes of Ehrhoff and Leino signed to long-term contracts?
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Ville Leino better be amazing is all i have to say.
Ehrhoff’s contract length is hilariously bad, but his cap hit is decent.
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I’m just assuming they are burying Kotalik and some one else to get under the cap, but I wonder if a “soft trade” of Pominville is in the works instead.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Please don’t be for Hagman, Please don’t be for Hagman…
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Stajan!
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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Oh shoot no titles woops
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
In my defense I’ve never posted a photo before. Didn’t even think that would work
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
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by not norm ullman on Sep 14, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO they have as good a chance as half the East, if they can stay healthy.
Miller in net, half decent defense, and a Top 9 including Leino, Roy, Vanek, Stafford,Boyes, Pominville, Ennis, Gerbe, and whoever as the 9th, each of those guys could be good for 20G+.
That is an above average offense IMO, getting above average goaltending, I don’t see why they couldnt’ go far (on paper at least)
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, like in 2006 when they basically dressed defencemen 6-12…or so I have been told.
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Woo! Campbell, Lydman, (both played 30 mintues) Janik, Jillson, Paestch, and Rory Fitzpatrick!
Grade-A defense right there.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the Ehrhoff contract is disgusting but I don’t think it will harm the team much at any point. The Leino contract is over paid, but not of the back breaking sort.
In regards to goalies Enroth looks pretty good (been watching him since he came over from Europe). Will he be the next MIller? Likely not, but he could still be good.
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Is he breaking our cap? Or just annoying to have? Also look at the difference in the size of the cap when the two of them were signed.
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fair enough. Although, I will say that a team in “win now” mode, like the Sabres, should be trying real hard to avoid stupid contracts like that.
Then again, if you read some of the comments at DiebytheBlade, you’ll think Leino is going to displace Roy from the top centre spot.
Not anymore he’s not! He’s a center now because WE DONT HAVE ANY!
Jochen Hecht could theoretically be freed from the shackles of center.
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That’s a bit insulting to Derek Roy and possibly Brad Boyes, no?
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Centers:
Derek Roy
Paul Gaustad
Forced to play center even though they suck at it:
Jochen Hecht
Brad Boyes(?)
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Tyler Ennis and Derek Roy are both good C’s. Boyes seems okay at C but better on the wing. Gaustad is a good C but he probably will be number 3 or 4 C.
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Correction: He’s played 2 games at center in the NHL.
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From my understanding he at least WAS a C
Here is hockeys future listing him as a C
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Myers…. ya that seems high.
Since when is $5.5m for a Norris AND Vezina winner high?
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by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Inside jokes. Don’t feel bad, I don’t get 99% of them either since most are from before my time here (actually, I’ll let you in on a secret, I’m starting to believe I don’t even get some of the ones that came about after I got here; the downside of not being able to spend 24/7 on a blog about the Leafs).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
eh, this one is new to me. I lurked on the site a lot before registering, and read the comments, so I usually get most of them…
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s best to just reply with “lol” or “rec’d” when there’s even the slightest possibility that it might be an inside thing. Usually works for me. You come off looking just as suave as the old pros. :D
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Or just say something about cross-checking a straw man in Columbus in November
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Tavares had 67 points last year, including 29 goals. He’s worth it.
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Tavares at 5.5M at age 25 could be a huge factor at giving NYI cap management for a good team once all their youth is entering their primes.
This of course assumes they will eventually start spending on their young players.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Vezina winning defensemen are very rare birds. You’ve got to lock them up when you can.
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by SkinnyFish on Sep 14, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Old meme, but I still love this one.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 14, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hearing that Myers deal in Buffalo will be for seven years, worth around $5.5 million per year
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That’s a lot of coin.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
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They shoulda never gave you (Sabres) money!
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by PassivelyTruculent on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Lame
One top prospect not on hand this weekend was 2011 first round pick Tyler Biggs. A recent enrollee at the University of Miami-Ohio, Biggs could not take part in the event because of strict NCAA rules, which prohibit involvement during the school year—classes began in late August. A native of Loveland, Ohio, Biggs was allowed to take part in the team’s prospect camp in July (summer break), but could only do so by paying his own way to Toronto.
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That’s The NCAA for you. Any semblance of benefit provided to a student athlete ruins their eligibility. Soon giving the kid advice on how to improve himself will be verboten as well.
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University of Miami rules do not apply to athletes playing iced hockeys.
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by blindfolded tank driver on Sep 14, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
That’s Miami in Florida. Biggs goes to Miami in Ohio.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The NCAA exploits young athletes for profit.
At least with hockey the kids are probably coming from reasonably middle class families (who can afford hockey). Think about the kids who play basketball and football, come from crappy situations, make no money while getting a fake education, and then don’t make the NBA or NFL.
who’s fault is it that they get a fake education?
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It is the fault of the system in place, and the people who make money off that system.
Or are you implying that kids from the ghetto should be concentrating on their education, instead of sports, while at school? There are a million things I could say to rebut that, but for now I will stick to: A) The school itself puts significant effort into making these guys concentrate on sports, and 2) How long would they last on the team without giving maximum effort?
Yeah the NCAA is ridiculously greedy. Bowl executives, ADs, big program head coaches and Conference executives all make obscene amounts of money on the backs of athletes.
A paid-for education is great, except not all athletic scholarships are for all 4 years. A lot of these guys are on year-by-year scholarships that are the coach’s option to renew. You don’t spend pretty much all your time on your game, you’re not getting renewed. No renewal – looks like you’re out of school.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
South Park fuckin killed it when they mocked the NCAA
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BRILLIANT
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I see your point here, however, I believe many of those people who are getting “fake educations” that are not student athletes would have a problem with that statement. That said, I myself know several athletes that were enrolled in what you may deem a “real degree”. At the end of the day, I don’t really think it’s fair to lay all the blame on the organization as they DO provide the opportunity to get a world class education/degree while playing sport (as difficult as it may be to do both, and well). And on the topic of exploitation, what does it matter if it’s a poor kid vs. a “middle class” kid that can afford hockey. Can these students/players not be exploited?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
who are getting "fake educations" that are not student athletes would have a problem with that statement
I wasn’t trying to say the American colleges in general give provide poor educations. What I am saying is that the “educations” NCAA athleres receive (and obviously it depends on the school and the sport) are little more than a pretence, and the “student” is really a full time athlete who isn’t getting paid/compensated.
And on the topic of exploitation, what does it matter if it’s a poor kid vs. a "middle class" kid that can afford hockey. Can these students/players not be exploited?
Yes, exploitation is exploitation. I agree with you, I was just trying to mitigate my criticism.
One thing I should point out is that basketball and hockey players will have an opportunity to play pro outside of the NBA/NHL, especially overseas.
I see. By “fake education” I thought you meant degrees like “communications” or “art history” or “psychology” ;) as many athletes tend to gravitate to the less intensive analytical majors.
the "student" is really a full time athlete who isn’t getting paid/compensated.
This is the norm as a student prepares for their career; med students paying for their externships, student teachers paying to teach at a school. You’re pretty much screwed in college regardless. I can totally understand where you’re coming from, I just don’t buy it to that extent as it almost seems like an excuse/trying to pass the buck for getting no where in life. It undermines all the hard working students who hold down 3 jobs and get like 0.2 hrs of sleep/night just so they can pay their college.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
PPP at PPP2.0 shows how Kessel scores when it matters.
Yesssss it’s happening.
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A guy over there said that Kessel is the sort of player who needs other players to make him better! He really likes Crabb and Bozak.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
ROFL
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BOOOOO.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Related:
I for one think 2 goal leads are great and important, and am thrilled that Phillip Kessel has been responsible for such type goals in the previous season of ice hockey for the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Kessel is “Clutch” is great news.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 14, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus
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Leafs announce training camp roster. 70 players in all.
That’s a big training camp.
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Guys are going to be changing in the hallways and shit.
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Guys are going to be dismissed before they even gets their skates on.
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by Chemmy on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
“KOMISAREK: SEE WHICH OF THESE SEATS IS THE COMFIEST. ASK FINGER FOR HIS INPUT TOO.”
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by Chemmy on Sep 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LEDBA?! WTF?? Oh, that was just a typo, nevermind, carry on.
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by thenumber14 on Sep 14, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it was Jonas who said in an article that everybody from the Rookie Tourney roster got an invite to the main camp, including all the tryout players.
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you get an invite! you get an invite! you get an invite!
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
BBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
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by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
That’s kind of awesome. But still, 70 players, wow.
Other than Heard, I wasn’t really blown away by any of the other FA tryouts.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
How many of these guys will actually get a game in? My guess is not many
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Oh definitely not, but I guess camp itself is kind of a big deal for some of these kids.
There was an interview I read this morning saying that just seeing how real pros eat, sleep, do drills is a big learning experience.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like at least 5-10 of these guys will get cut before they even play a single preseason game.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Olden was a 2010 3rd round pick.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
olden was a draft pick, I think he’ll end up getting into some games, like McKegg did last year
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s out property at the moment. We have until next June to sign him, else he goes back into the draft pool.
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He’d have to have a pretty shitty year in Erie to not get signed.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
or he pulls an Erixon and wants to play for another orgainzation.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit! Some one ask him in an interview what his family’s favourite team is!
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
related
I hate that SB Nation shows honour and favourite and colour as spelling mistakes.
I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.
isn’t that just firefox and not SB Nation? thought someone mentioned that before.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha ha. Bow to your American masters!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Having 4 rinks at your training arena comes in handy sometimes
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There will be the “rookie camp” pad with no coaches.
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They should make one training camp exercise based On rocky 2’s chicken catch “ok guys you have to catch gardiner, if you can catch him, you can catch greased lightening!”
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Overflow to Ricoh and the ACC.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No need for overflow when you have 4 rinks
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4 does seem excessive
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats the Mastercard center that we are now paying for!
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Eh, put it on our Visa.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It`s a chance to get as much autographed gear as possible to ebay when you dont make the NHL in a couple of yrs and are unemployed looking for min wage jobs cause you devoted your life to playing hockey for money and neglected your education going the jr route instead of college.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Bitter much?
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hardly bitter just seen that movie play out a few times. People always wonder about the state of players after they retire bit few care about the kids that spent their developmemtal yrs trying to make it at any cost. Being invited to the main camp will be the highlight of their playing days.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
aaaand
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http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/9/14/2425125/leafs-training-camp-roster#comments
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He’s Grobavski’s winger.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully they’ll get some time on the PP with Dion Phanuef
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
D Mitchell littlest
Dale Mitchell 5’9 200 Forward
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s mustache depth.
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by clrkaitken on Sep 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Marcel Mueller 6’3 232 Forward
Holy shit I forgot how big Mueller is.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what she said!
Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.
by PassivelyTruculent on Sep 14, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
he also doesn’t look that big, but he’s solid
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
SOLID LIKE BIG BLOCK OF RUSSIAN METAL THAT HE IS MADE OF
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to as well but I don’t want to jinx him.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF WHY
Brayden Irwin 6’5 211 Forward
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
With how many people are invited to camp Irwin will be responsible for putting gear on really high shelves to make space.
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He might also be well suited to passing autographed merchandise between fans and the bench, due to what I’d assume would be his superior reach. Not his own merchandise, of course.
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not even signed. God damn it.
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Every rookie from camp made the training camp roster.
What’s funny is 70 players, and only 96 available jersey numbers. This could get interesting.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Goal scored by number 76.5, Mitchell Heard
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why he said 96.
There’s 99 permissable numbers (1-99), less 5 (Barilko), 6 (Bailey) and 99 (Gretzky)
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Couldn’t some one technically be 0? Or is that illegal.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as I know you aren’t allowed to wear 0 in the NHL.
You have to think if you were someone would have tried by now
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As an aside I can’t wait until the 1999 born players are drafted so that top picks stop wearing the ridiculous high numbers just cause that’s when they were born.
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Too bad it’s not like Blurnsball where all the natural numbers were retired so everyone had to use fractions or irrational numbers.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Blluuuuurrrrrrn!!!! MULTIBALL! MULTIBALL!
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
#HadToAskTheQuestion
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Marty Biron wore 00 until they told him he couldn’t anymore.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And seeing as I doubt anyone will ever take 17 or 93 without getting punched in the kidneys, might as well make it 94.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if anybody is going to wear 13, 17 or 93 either
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If Kadri comes close to his potential, I wouldn’t mind him wearing one of those numbers. There are so many great numbers still available and on hold like 1, 10, 14, 21 and 27 (as well as the ones you mentioned) that I would love some of our current Leafs to sport. God I cant wait to see 14, 17, 21 and especially 27 back on the ice.
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Kadri said this year over twitter he is keeping 43.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know about you but I can’t/wont be buying a high AHL numbered sweater no matter how much a superstar he may turn out to be. I’m a traditionalist (so I think) and visually those numbers blow.
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I’m a traditionalist (so I think) and visually those numbers blow.
Burke might agree.
You could always just buy a Kadri 19 jersey in case he changes it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s like how Lou Lamiorello will not allow any Devils to wear a jersey number above 39.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
43 isn’t that absurd a number, to me a stupid number is something like 62 or 75.
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Or Kubina’s 73 phase
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yea that was wierd… he switched pretty quickly. After getting injured I beleive.
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t it seems high crappy numbers that are like whatever seem to hold a bad omen for players, except one.
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To 31. Then Cujo came back so he switched to 77 for a season.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Kubina’s number was 13 but that wasn’t available so he choose 73 because it “looked” like 13 but when he got hurt he went to 31 then gave that number to Cujo (that was nice of him) and took on 77. He’s now back to his original number of 13.
I don’t mind high double digit numbers though but I have a hard time (maybe because in recent memory) seeing players with high odd numbers ever being a player of permanence but rather a place holder or non factor.
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From the Mirtle article
“You always want to have those players coming. I think we as an organization have been in trouble in the past because we have not had players coming, whether they’ve been moved to try to take a run at it or what have you. We want to make sure that that pipeline is continually being filled.”
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by PhilSpecter on Sep 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Say what you want
about the rookie tournament essentially being child’s play, but that was a nice last minute, pressure’s on, cross ice, tape-to-tape pass by Mitch Heard.
He’s definitely been the pleasant surprise of the tourney for me. I’m curious to see if he can be this year’s Crescenzi and earn a contract in training camp.
Shameless optimism
I haven’t been able to catch much of the rookie tourny, but how has Brad Ross looked? Has he been more than just a shit disturber? Based on the article above, doesn’t necessarily sound like it, although it doesn’t offer much.
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
how has Brad Ross looked
Hasn’t done much.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s too bad. For some reason I’m very fascinated with his development, despite having actually seen very little of his work at any level.
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor DGB
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The Verizon ad in the game is ridiculous. I get to hear it every time I play a Be a Pro game. It wasn’t enough you control the ads along the boards and still get my 68$?! You want Verizon to present everything? Then give me 10$ off you bastards.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait they play ads before the games now? Is that like when they play ads before you watch a video in Youtube?
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by T is for Truculence on Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no every time you start a Be A Pro game it now says " Be a Pro, Sponsored by Verizon Wireless"
I wonder how much they had to pay for that, because if someone really likes be a pro mode, that’s a shit ton of impressions.
Although, there is no such thing as Verizon in Canada so they are not getting a very good ROI if you ask me.
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I bet EA didn’t really think about this.
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They thought “more money for us? Users complain? Sign us up!”
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I bet Verizon didn’t really think this through, either. Oh look, we get exposed to all the NHL 12 gamers! That’s like…80% Canadians who have no access to our services….
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there a rookie game tonight?
If there is, is anyone up for a PPP meet up in London to watch it somewhere?
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But pre-season starts monday! Get your overpriced tickets!
I’m rocking TOR/PHI. gunna be sweeeeeeeeeeeet.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m there on Monday. With my Dion jersey on. Yelling at any Ottawa fans
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Monday would actually be more fun because it’s the first game, but alas I’ll have to settle for Tuesday.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
me too buddy. probably rocking the suit though, which may actually enhance the heckling of Sens fans.
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Ah one of the many famed “Suits of the ACC”, which according to Brian Burke are the “real fans” (e.g. those whose companies/salaries provide seasons tickets)
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SUITS
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I like suits, I would just prefer jerseys at a hockey game, at least from the fans. But hey, whatever’s clever.
by Goosemonster on Sep 14, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Solution: Jersey suit.
Basically a suit where the jacket is also a Leaf jersey.
Million-dollar idea. (Patent pending)
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by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 14, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Because what you wear impacts your ability to be a fan? I’d be curious to understand how that works.
Regardless of attire I’m the loudest fucker in my section 9 times out of 10. I’m comfortable wearing my suit, I don’t feel the need to go through the effort of bringing a change of clothes to the office.
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I will preface this by saying I have no problem with suits.
Regardless of attire I’m the loudest fucker in my section 9 times out of 10.
Is that because everyone else is checking their Blackberries or away from their seats ordering sushi?
/ducks
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by CanadianMaple09 on Sep 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I only went to two games in the golds last year, the rest were blue/green/purple (upper bowl). The tickets I have this year are all in the blues.
True story: one of the games we sat in the golds for last year was the home-opener. There was a couple sitting beside us – the same couple as the year before actually. Fully decked out in Leafs gear – jersey , hat, leafs ‘scrunchie’ on the girl. They may have even had Leafs shoe laces in their sneakers. SUPER FANS. They didn’t make a peep all fucking game.
Another true story: the people sitting around us in the purples / blues / greens also had hand-held telephone type devices that they checked regularly. Almost as if the ‘common man’ now has access to these types of devices too! CRAZY.
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by daoust on Sep 14, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The “poor” also apparently all have refrigerators and microwaves!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
THE HORROR!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. I think they may even be allowed to vote now. Strange times we live in!
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it is about time we get rid of women sufferage though.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Two more recs here please – let’s make this green. NO SUIT HARASSMENT!!
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by daoust on Sep 14, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if you look at pics of crowds from MLG back in the day, everyone was in a suit. Suits have more history with the leafs and hockey then going all decked out in jerseys and facepaint do.
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The real war should be against quiet fans.
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It’s a shame people don’t give a shit about how they look anymore. Both my grandfathers were poor immigrant labourers basically, but they wouldn’t be caught out in public on a weekend without at least their fedora.
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Agree.
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going to the hockey game was a BIG DEAL back in the day. I mean, its still a big deal these days but not in the same way. It was like going to a fancy dinner and show, or a broadway musical or something. You got dressed up and went out for the night, it was an occasion.
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
ADMIN BOT 3000 PREFERS WEARING A SUIT MADE OF HUMAN FLESH. [end]
LAST WEEK A HUMAN AT THE GROCERY STORE WAS SURPRISED. [end]
ADMIN BOT 3000 HOPES YOU HAVE A DAY
by ADMIN BOT 3000 on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit
I thought we had gotten rid of him….shit shit shit
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-Chemmy overthrows PPP
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-An incoherent power struggle
-Order is restored?
Let the reign of Chemmy begin
Preseason tix actually pretty cheap available here:
http://www.etorontotickets.com/LeafIndividualGameInventory.htm
Also a pretty cool deal here – ability to buy individual tickets to the 600-level gondola suites for $139 per game, plus you get a ticket to the Marlies. The Detroit game is already sold out:
http://www.travelzoo.com/ca/local-deals/deal/5709
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Tickets to TOR @ PHI preseason start at $7.
Godamnit.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, then they hit you with the $40 delivery fee per ticket. I got excited over some $13 Leafs @ Wings tix, then the total for 2 all of a sudden jumps to $80. Huh?!?!? How you figure?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
ticketmaster charged me $6 for “free” tickets once.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The preseason is just a cash grab.
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by Chemmy on Sep 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LeafsTV subscription too
why bother watching hockey at all.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even want to talk about it – it makes me so angry.
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The playoffs are the real cash grab. They don’t even pay the players!
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It explains why the Leafs play 8 games when other teams play about 4. No one in Florida cares about preseason hockey.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Too easy
No one in Florida cares aboutpreseasonhockey
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Tampa Bay does, when they’re winning.
And Florida does, when they’re………..uh, never mind.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Lombardi wearing #15 for training Camp
TOO SOON.
I thought Gardiner might eventually get it if he ever got a callup.
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He wore 18 in Calgary and 15 in Phoenix (18 was taken by Lepisto). Brown has 18 so yeah, back to 15 again for Lombardi.
Kaberle had he welcome back game already and his tribute.
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Agreed. I don’t like it. Someone should give him a slap … not in the head though.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he going to wear 15 in Carolina I wonder, or maybe the 12 from Boston?
I don’t know what numbers are available on that team.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Then he’s boned.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Instead of a number there’ll be an image of his Bizarro Kabby Devil Beard.
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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 14, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’ll wear 5 if its available. I remember seeing him wear 5 in international games and I think he wore 5 in his home country before the NHL.
The real question is if or when we’ll see Lombardi dawn the #15.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Has anyone taken a look at those predicted standings for the East on HockeyAnalsyis? I think the estimate for GF may be generous, but the estimate for GA may be not generous enough. I expect us to improve a lot on that this season.
Then again, these are based on advanced statistics, so they’re worth considering.
What I don’t get is how the Canadians could be ranked 6th.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
If last season from Carey Price wasn’t a fluke, then they could very easily be 6th again.
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I think the only team in the East that will likely make it to the show on the back of “at best average” goaltending is TBL.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Potentially Pittsburgh. MAF is not the most consistent goalie.
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He’ll probably give them at least .915 though. Also, Tampa has Roloson, so they might get .915+ as well.
Roloson could throw up a .900 or a .920, who knows what his old bones will do.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Fleury around the .909 mark. His 3 year running average is only a 0.912, good for 22nd in the league. This includes a 0.912, 0.905, 0.918 in that order.
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I also included a healthy Markov which is not an insignificant addition to last years team which was without Markov for all but 7 games. They had 216GF and 209GA last season and I predicted 229GF and 225GA so a bit better offense but worse defense. The drop in defense is likely largely because I used 3-year data which watered down Prices stats from last season. If price repeats last season the GA will drop accordingly.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank god Markov’s healthy oh wait
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Why did you assume he would be healthy for the year? Couldn’t you use some sort of 3-year prediction for GP?
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by BCapp on Sep 14, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, I just looked at the ice time I used for him and it looks like I discounted his ice time a little for injury (maybe using something like a 70-75 game season).
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that too but I guess a lot has to do with his “leveling” of the playing field he mentions at the beginning.
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I would talk about it more, but all it serves to do is get his panties in a bunch. And then I’d have to read his bitching for the rest of the afternoon.
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by SkinnyFish on Sep 14, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the problem with his analysis is that he doesn’t look at goalies much.
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Goalies get the amount of influence the math indicates they should get, which is probably less than many people think they are worth.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you include goalies in your stats or just skaters?
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s what she said!
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
“which is probably less than many people think they are worth”
I do agree with this. People love to overestimate the importance of goaltending.
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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 14, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
/looks at Montreal and Toronto’s comparable stats and then standings
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
In no other way can a team’s position in the standings be so greatly affected by one player. You wanna add to your GA or your GF? You’ve got a team to build. You want to improve your goaltending? You’ll have to pay for it, but you’re in general, it means you’re looking for one guy.
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by Bower Power on Sep 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
MAYBE HE SHOULD JUST LOVE GOALIES MORE AND THEN YOU’D BE HAPPY.
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I don’t think is predictions are THAT off. And I’m not really sure what goaltending has to do with it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe (I may be corrected) that his numbers are based on his HARO and HARD numbers of skaters. Also he is a big believer of goal measures (vs shot measures like corsi/fenwick) which many believe (myself included) is overly influence by goalies.
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I am thinking that I might re-do the analysis but use my FenHARO and FenHARD ratings instead of HARO and HARD and see how the predictions come out. It’ll be interesting to compare the differences.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You love goalies so much.
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I don’t get how adding Brad Richards makes the Rangers score 14 fewer goals than last year, but what do I know
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To be honest, this one really confused me too. At first anyway, but I have my doubts that Brian Boyle will score 21 again (certainly the math isn’t predicting he will) and they lost 15 goals in Frolov and Prospal (they combined for 15g in just 72 games) so it isn’t like they won’t lose anything. Just a bit surprising Richards didn’t do better to offset it. If he and Gaborik can work well together they could be a scary tandem.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Sep 14, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
DeBoer said he believes Brodeur should still be considered a serious Vezina Trophy candidate. “I think so. I don’t see why a number in the age category would change that,” DeBoer said. – http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/The-Devils-and-Mr-Brodeur?urn=nhl-wp12517
durrrrrrrrr
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Some one quick show DeBoer a chart of age vs. performance.
Charts solve everything.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Chemmy on Sep 14, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Forget Reimer, lets bring back Cujo, or Potvin, or Mike Palmateer. Hell, Johnny Bower’s still alive, lets suit him up!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
current activity
booking Leaf games I have tickets to into my calendar, then booking fake meetings the next morning so I don’t have any hungover meetings.
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by daoust on Sep 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
hahaha, not a bad idea at all
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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
PRO
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This should be green.
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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 14, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitch 5 In play, no out, (88.0mph Two-seam FB)
Adrian Gonzalez grounds out, second baseman Kelly Johnson to first baseman Adam Lind.
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Correct. 27th overall to NJ.
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Correct, but many thought he should have gone 1st. Lots of controversy considering how poorly 1st overall panned out.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Rumour has it he was a victim of poor conditioning and coming back the next season well above his playing weight.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
you are all horrible people
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Phillips
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EL OH EL
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That draft is a fucking horror show.
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Case in point: every single Leaf pick before Tomas Kaberle in 1997.
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Pavel Brendl
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1st or 2nd overall
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Yes
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My thoughts exactly
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Jeff Ware… c’mon all join in the fun!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 14, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not taken in the top 10… still a terrible pick. Leafs drafting during the 90s was a god damn horror show.
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oooo… top 10 okay: I’ll give Luk the pass here, but how about Scott Pearson?!? he was somewhere in there, late 80s.
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5th. FIFTH. Overall
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JP Dumont
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3rd Overall
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It is. But he’s still 3rd in scoring (pts) from that draft year. BEHIND TOMAS FUCKING KABERLE.
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So he is 2nd in scoring for a forward that year? Doesn’t sound like a terrible pick to me.
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He’s not. It just shows that thinking having the a top 5 forward from a given draft year is the answer to all your problems is foolish. Because sometimes that forward is JP Dumont. Or Matt Stajan.
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I feel like he’s an 11th kinda guy.
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True, but 51 games in two career seasons. It’s hard to say if he was a bust or if chronic concussion problems did him in.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and the Leafs were ready to draft him just as the Islanders traded up to snag him one spot ahead of the Leafs. They had a Lindros jersey ready and everything.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lindros went 9th, TOR’s pick was 16th. Were their other trades?
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I think we may have traded down. I remember reading about this in an old Hockey News. Fletcher was running the show then.
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Seeing as Fletcher went with Eric Fichaud, Lindros probably wouldn’t have been any worse in retrospect.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They went with Fichaud based on the advise of one of their high level scouts who passed away just before the draft. Lindros was their first choice and when he wasn’t available they went with Fichaud.
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Easy yes since Florida hasn’t picked outside of the Top 10 since like 1997.
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Could be their second rounder…
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3rd Center in a row that Ottawa drafted. They could have had Kariya to play with Daigle/Yashin instead.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm why did I think Bonk and Kariya were the same draft year… misremebering stuff
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
GAME TWO
Over under on total draft positions of the following five players:
Kimmo Timonen, Viktor Kozlov, Chris Gratton, Steve Kelly
Over/under: 100.5
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Dammit. Misjudged how late Timonen went.
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kelly Graton and Kozlov were all top ten were they not?
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, I know Timonen was a 4th rounder, but there were fewer teams back then……….. over.
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Correct, but he was a 10th rounder.
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THEME ROUND
Jay McKee
Kyle McLaren
Bryan McCabe
Jeff O’Neill
Ryan O’Marra
Chris O’Sullivan
Bonus:
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he refused to sign, becoming a FA (some unsigned draft pick college rule).
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Manny Malhotra, Rico Fata, Scott Parker, Milan Kraft, Andrew Peters
Over/under: 100.5
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I am pretty sure Malholtra was a first rounder and I think Peters was relatively early. Besides that they are barely familiar. I’ll go over.
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Wrong
10th overall in 2004 (Atlanta).
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Ales Hemsky
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I know he was first round but I think he was outside of the top 10. Like 11th
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Correct
13th overall in 2001.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit
I probably missed this before, but did people know that Doughty turned down a 9 year, $61.2 million contract (6.8/year)
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He’s holding the kings hostage for a 5-year deal or something.
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he is reeeeeeeeeeeeally fucking good though, pretty sure 28 other GMs out there would have broken down and given him what ever he wants
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevar
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Alfredsson, Halak, Pavelski, Ian White
Over/under: 1200.5
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under, but only just.
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under
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50ish 100ish 210ish 130ish dunno 50something 180+
under
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A pretty amazing clip about Reimer and his cousin-in-law's battle with cancer
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Cousin’s wife. Whatever. Brain not working today.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 14, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
In Carolina they just call that an ex-wife.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or in Martin Brodeur’s house.
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yeah, i watched that last night. all of a sudden it got really dusty in my office.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My latest at Leafs Nation
“The intellectual liberals who run the league don’t realize there’s more stick play if [redacted]. They’re going to be sorry."
Find out who said this, and about what in my latest post.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
don cherry, about helmets
what do i win?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Respect.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
woo hoo!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
As an aside, the more stick work comment stems from a game in which a North Star player and Sittler hit each other over the head with their sticks, which cracked Sittler’s helmet in half, which is insane.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 14, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bogosian signs, 2 years, 5 mill, 2 the first year 3 the second
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
papa wants a new car.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wait, i totally misread that. ignore this comment. ^
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, that is a good deal for the Jets too, especially if Bogo reaches half his potential
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair he signed Enstrom to 3.75 a year
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Waddell gave the reigns to Dudley in April of 2010. Enstrom was resigned for the 2009 season.
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a year off, sonofabitch
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So glad he’s here now to do… whatever it is that he does.
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not sign contracts
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What is he again? Talent Evaluation? Something like that?
by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 14, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Dudley
VP of talent assessment
President of talking in a deep, soothing voice
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he is the Barry White of the Leafs brass
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
come on up to my tree, it’s safe, and it’s sexy.. oh baby.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
FOUR MILLION FOR SCHENN e5
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over 2 years right?
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I got called an idiot for pointing out that Volchenkov got $4.25M as a UFA.
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of all the reasons to call you an idiot, that isnt one of them
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I want a 21 year old C who fully deserves a 6-year, $33m contract. Humph.
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he deserves a lot more than that IMO.
Grabbo could probably get something like that if he goes to Free Agency,
Tavares should be getting Stamko’s contract IMO, and Stamkos should be getting Malkin’s.
stamkos has put up 50 goals twice and 90 points twice, tavares has never scored more than 29 goals or 67 points
tavares deserves no where near Stamkos money
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
*40 goals twice
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
good deal, interesting that it is the same as the Bogo deal
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Curious now as to what Schenn will get.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 14, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
3.25 me thinks, 3 years
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Please be this.
3 years takes him to RFA, 4 years to UFA, correct?
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe so
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Still seems high.
Really think consensus right at the start of summer with the $3M to $3.5M zone.
This holding off until the few days before training camp is just adding pressure to accept a higher figure.
With Bogo coming in at $2.5M, even @DarrenDreger mentioned that may put downwards pressure on acceptable figure. Hopefully they focus a lot more on that number than the ridiculous $5.5M for Myers.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
with Myers getting 5.5 i think it’s going to undo the 2.5 for Bogo some what.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh whatever it just better get finished by Friday as speculated.
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 14, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Lombardi says kings won't pay Doughty more than Kopitar
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and Kopitar makes 6.8
Doughty must want a butt load
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He turned down 61.2 for 9 years (6.8 for 9 years). Now LA has an offer on the table for 6.8 for 7 years. He wants both shorter and more than 7 mil
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Delusional. Weber got $7.5M as an arbitration award, after a season in which he finished 2nd in Norris Voting.
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And Doughty
Didn’t have that great of a year compared to last year.
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He’s a damn fool if he seriously thinks he’s worth more than their almost-PPG #1C. If and when he signs, Dustin Brown needs to have a sit-down talk with this kid.
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have Brown have a talk with Meehan, thats who the problem’s with.
by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 14, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Blake Kessel signs in Philly
It’s like the Flyers are collecting the Leafs’ younger brothers. I assume Riley Armstrong is next.
and Dion’s brother is available for draft next year….
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He hits women. Shameful.
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he’s also only 5’10 and 150lbs, guess Dion stole all the food off his plate growing up
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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Dion fed him Red Bull’s in the breakfast cereal.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 14, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
From DGB NHL 12 review
As always, the game is extremely customizable. Gamers can control the volume of sound effects and crowd noise, although when playing as Toronto the volume of the music can only be adjusted by Dion Phaneuf.
I lol’d
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