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For All the Positive Burke Moves, Is There One Recent Leafs You'd Like to Have Back - Mike Langlois at Vintage Leaf Memories

It’s hard to argue that Brian Burke has done anything but improve the Leafs, in terms of the current roster (younger, faster, tougher), cap issues (he has somehow moved seemingly immovable contracts), in terms of depth (more players fighting for fewer spots) and the future (young players in the pipeline, draft choices down the road).

Whether it was acquiring Phaneuf (and Aulie, as well, somehow) for players no longer in the plans, dealing bad contracts (Jason Blake, etc.) or acquiring kids with real potential (Colborne, Gardiner) it’s clear that, while the Leafs still have a ways to go, some very good work has already been done.

It’s pre-season, and it’s natural to get a little excited—and perhaps unrealistically hopeful—about the team’s prospects and some of the young guys looking to get noticed.  But most would agree that the improvements—while still very much needing to be in evidence when the games count for real—are already on display for all to see in the early days of training camp and the pre-season.

All this said, I wonder if Leaf fans may have a player or two that, in their heart, kind of/sort of still wished was in the blue and white?

Head on over there and let us know which player you'd like to have back. More links after the jump.

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Leafs Links

Leafs Top Line Comes Out Flat

Meh, it's the pre-season and they're taking it easy.

Leafs, Jets Will Still Be Playing in the Post-Season

Does NHL.com know the Jets are really just the Atlanta Thrashers in new uniforms?

#LeafsNationRituals

Danny Gray wants to know what your season rituals are.

Versus Announces Pre-Season Schedule

A bit of a late notice, but tonight's game against Philly is on there.

Now It's Time For the Easiest Part of Any Coaches Job

Puckin 'Eh gives his predictions on the first 30 cuts in camp.

TML: Previewing Ron Wilson's Make or Break Season

Salim Valji of the Hockey Writes with a season preview.

Is Keith Aulie Ready for a Top 4 Role?

 

Jonathan Willis ask this question at Leafs Nation.


Other Links

The NHL's Most Interesting Names: 1940s Part 1

Come for Peanut O'Flaherty, stay for the epic porn name that is Jimmy Orlando....or do I have those two backwards?

If NHL Fans Had Their Own Training Camp

Where are the chicken wing eating drills?

NHL Conditionally Approves Verification Line, Thinner Mesh

Frequency of Shea Weber slappers passing through net to increase exponentially.

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i thought the FTB was a lunch time endeavor now.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

a little.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

especially with a soft focus and some back lighting…

RIP WB
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahah.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well obviously I’d love to have Kaberle back

by munniec on Sep 21, 2011 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

i wouldn’t have minded keeping Steen or Stalberg around.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would sooner undo the Steen trade than the Kessel one.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would want Kyle Wellwood back for entertainment.

by HACKEY17 on Sep 21, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would completely undo the steen trade. Didn’t make sense to me at the time (when i thought it was 2 good players for 1 good player) and now that it’s turned out to be a decent d-man and good 2nd liner for…Stempniak? God that’s awful.

Between that, the Finger trade, and the Frogren deal, it’s hard not to see Fletcher doddering around the ACC and not be angry.

He did get us Gilmour though :)

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

GRABOVSKI

I think he also got a 2nd and a 5th for Hal Gill.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

GRABOVSKI is a good point. Although i have to imagine he got a little lucky there. You have to think if anyone had any idea he’d turn into a NHLer — much less a 60-pt centre — he would have fetched more than a low pick.

Of course that dismisses the possibility that Montreal is just really, really stupid.

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can’t just dismiss that he was able to find a good asset because you think he turned into better than expected. The year we traded for him he had 20 points in 13 AHL games.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fletcher also tried to get Grabovski when there was talk of shopping Sundin’s rights before he hit UFA. Clearly either he or someone on the scouting team saw something in Grabbo that they really liked.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finger trade?
He was a free-agent signing.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

you pay inflated prices for a good Fingering, especially on the open market

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pull my Finger

Joke that never gets old.

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by not norm ullman on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finger was not a trade.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steen for sure

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I concur. My Steen Jersey is currently useless.

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by Primitive_ on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of think Hal Gill could have been of more use to us longer than he was, but meh, whatever

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

are we even sure Stempniak is really gone? Ninja was reallllly ninja

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he apparently was playing in Calgary last night, but no one noticed until midway through the second period.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And even then, it was “Stempniak with the puck, shoots wide…wait, where did he go?”

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh, I think he actually scored a goal

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure it qualifies as “recent”, but Rask is the “one that got away” for me. Still.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

he didn’t get away, he was kicked overboard

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The lesson is a good GM never puts all his goaltending eggs in one basket.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just ask the Islanders.

by unavoidable on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rask might be the most painful trade since the lockout. Just when I was starting to block it from my memory you bring it back.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

the lesson

is that you don’t make the decision between your two prospects, fighting for the “goalie of the future” title until you HAVE to.

They didn’t. They should have picked up a UFA on the cheap (Lalime, Legace, something like that) in about August, and then made Pogge/Rask play it out and see who emerged.

That one still stings, yes.

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for Gary Roberts love

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Sep 21, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is just too much man.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The chief export of Gary Roberts is pain.

The secondary export of Gary Roberts is sound fitness and diet advice

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by Isosceles Kramer on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The deal I’d undo is Kubina for Exelby… with the added benefit of not being able to use that salary cleared up to bring in Komi

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by BetterThanBester on Sep 21, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know who else let in 4 goals in a preseason game last night?

Carey Price. So…. ya that didn’t make me feel better.

But now for our favourite part – the cuts! Little upset we haven’t seen Greg McKegg at all yet in preseason, and he might be a cut today. Oh well.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

did price get booed out of the arena for that one?

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

dunno. But I’m sure he’ll tell everyone to chill out.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

woo cuts!

I just can’t get enough. I just can’t get enough.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 21, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wendel is cut??? >:(

… oh, Wendell… Never mind, carry on :)

by GettinGiggy on Sep 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody who is going back to junior got into the lineup.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

Prices 4 goals on 13 shots make Reimer’s 4 goals on 22 look sterling.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

CAREYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

CAREYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

was he booed out of the arena again?

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I heard Reimer was booed?

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Leafs were booed.

Mostly the 5on3 powerplay.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I thought they had some good puck movement there. Bob made a few nice saves.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the 5 on 3 at the end of the 3rd? It was pathetic.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, not that one. I had stopped paying attention at that point.
Did we not have one earlier in the game?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

We did. It was decent, but really that’s when you need to pot one. There’s so much space, park someone in front of the net and get a rebound or tip. Not that they weren’t trying /backseatplayer

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we keep that up luck will deliver a few goals.The process was what I’m looking for in the pre-season and it looked good.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frank McCool.
Just. Awesome.

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by danishmarshmallow on Sep 21, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Reimer looked solid last night in the first period. I believe the turning point came after the first Philly goal. Though it was a breakaway (thanks to awesome positioning by schenn), I sensed it bothered Reimer because he screwed up the timing on the poke check leaving himself totally vulnerable for the goal. Him seemed a little shaken after that and his reaction after every other goal was more than we’ve seen from him all last season. That said, I couldn’t really blame him for the second goal either. The third (over the shoulder was questionable as was the fourth). Wish I could just tell him to take it easy and chill and everything will be okay.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

There’s a lot of blame to go around on that first goal.

Finger made just a horrible half-pinch and got himself stuck in no-mans’ land.
The winger (I think it was Orr) didn’t cover for whatever it was Finger was doing.
Schenn drfited way too far to his left and had no idea Rinaldo was still there on his right

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It had to be Rinaldo… godamnit. I was chirping him all night til that point.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mississauga kid. Nuff said

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear God, they now have a video up on NHL.com called “The Amazing Flying Rinaldo”

Just shoot me.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

/loads shotgun

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but with all that said, I think if Schenn would have stayed in the lane instead of drifting over it would have been at worst a 1-on-1 with Rinaldo.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

he seemed a little shaken and upset that the Flyers were running him and no one was doing anything about it.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got blatantly run over twice, one was called.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is mean, but Wilson should have pulled him and put Owuya in if that was how the flyers were going to play. you don’t leave your number 1 starter out in that mess to get hit and potentially hurt ( a couple of times I was really concerned about that)

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let the kid with 0.5 games of NHL and AHL experience get run instead!

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

meh, better then our starter being injured for the start of the season.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

you get run-over! you get run-over! ALL OF OUR GOALIES GET RUN OVER!

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

should have just parked orr beside the net all night and let him cloths line any Flyer who came near Reimer

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let Orr and Komisarek stand there all game and block with their knees…

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love it when Flames fans go on about winning the Phaneuf trade. one of my cousins says they “got all the best Leafs and you got stuck with princess dion”

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Really? All the good Leafs? Isn’t Stajan like the only one who’s still (marginally) with the club?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah at 4 million per. i laughed at him and then brought up they then traded for ToskaLOL. haven’t heard back since

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the NHL Network last night, they were debating whether or not Hagman is going to get sent down to the Abbotsford Heat.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, the Flames sure “won” that trade, alright.

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by Marc Pilgrim on Sep 21, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ask him how Jamal and White are working out for them too.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Flames signing Bouwmeester was the best thing that ever happened to the Leafs.

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by Curt S on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or how Stajan’s NTC is doing.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get it. I loved Hags in the Blue and White

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was pretty streaky with his goal scoring, but he was a pretty good 2 way 2nd line winger even when he wasnt potting goasl

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. I liked his offense, but was never upset ot see him on the ice even when he was in a cold streak.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Age 26—27 goals.
Age 27—22 goals (in 65 games).
Age 28—25 goals.

This isn’t a terribly uncommon pattern. It’s unfortunate that his production fell off a cliff but expecting a 28-year-old to maintain or increase production isn’t terribly realistic…. which we’ll have to keep in mind when it comes time to resign or trade Grabovski.

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by Nirbo on Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hagman had a good night against Vancouver’s B team.

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

For what it’s worth, Komi was a “0” last night when there was a possibility of being a -4. Not bad.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Komi looked ok for the most part, a couple times I noticed him running out of position looking for big hits

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, doing the same old dumb shit he did last year that got him into so much trouble.

there seriously were some things about that game that were a little…concerning.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Missed the game, but I knew nothing good was going to come of a lineup that included Komisarek, Orr and Finger.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coltron Orr is so incredibly slow it’s painful to watch. I honestly think I could beat him in a race, no fooling. Gysbers too.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope we don’t see much of him this year.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same. There’s nothing he does that someone like Boyce, Zigomanis, or Dupuis can’t do better.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

aside from smashing faces

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea too bad he wasnt one of the guys skinny mentioned.

still… point taken

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rosie is not as good a fighter as Orr, but every other aspect of his game is superior

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

his skating has to be at least twice as good

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gysbers had zero hockey sense. His agility was laughable and his play in the neutral zone gave me a sad.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looked much worse than when I saw him in Marlies games, could have been the level of play but early preseason games shouldn’t be that much higher level than mid season AHL games right?

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d argue a mid-season AHL game is a higher quality than basically the 1st pre-season game of the year

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Komi actually played a decent game. May have been their point man last.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a little weird to see him out there on that last PP.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

garbage time, giving him some PP for playing a decent game probably.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not like we were making a comback. I just did a bit of a double take.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha – thumbs up on the mr furley avatar. what a funny dude.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, the club looked horrible last night imo.

Aside from Kadri and Reiemrs first half, no one really impressed that much….

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker continues to impress me. I thought Kessel had good jump but his linemates were not doing him any favours. Mueller and Boyce both played the kind of hard-nosed, gritty hockey that they’re going to need to play if they want to be NHLers.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boyce and Mueller could look good on a 4th line with someone like Brown in the neare future

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree, I’m big on Blacker

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by Curt S on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS. Once you go Blacker…..

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker! Woo! Gysbers would have looked that much worse if he wasn’t bailing him out.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

a little…concerning.

Like the entire 3rd period.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's preseason

Yes, a win would have been nice, but the only things I really cared about seeing were how Reimer was going to look (not so hot) and what the new Kessel line looked like (kinda meh, but it’s one game)

Almost 1/2 that team won’t be playing on opening night. We move on.

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like D’Amigo is in tonight

Heading for a lil pre-game skate before the trip to Philly gotta brush the dust off before the game #1stGameback

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Good

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could find that photo of D’Amigo scoring on a Canadian goalie, judiciously edited to him scoring on a Habs goalie by yours truly.

by Marc Pilgrim on Sep 21, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully it means McKegg and some other young guys get a chance to play at a semi-NHL level tonight.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

as clrkaitken pointed out, no one who is junior-eligible has played a game yet, so don’t count on it.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure last year the Leafs kept up a couple of the kids so they could practice with the big squad, but didnt play them in preseason games

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya but when do they get on their flight to Philly? Not sure if they’re practicing first before they fly.

When are these cuts coming already, sheesh.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t make me break out a WAYFO before 10

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I imagine these guys are involved in the scrimmages, etc.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’ll see a fairly young team tonight.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, I’ve been looking forward to seeing how he’s improved.

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

magnificently done sir.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Komi certainly looked lighter, and faster. I was actually impressed with his game. Hopefully a sign of good things to come for him.

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by Halifax Hockey Hooligan on Sep 21, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Komisarek ran shit last preseason too.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember when he rag dolled Jordan Staal?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was great, knocked him down, picked him upa nd knocked him down again

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys should all smarten the f*ck up. This is KOMISAREK we’re talking about.

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How about that Finger, though?

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by not norm ullman on Sep 21, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finger was less than useless last night. Proving yet again why he’s our #12 defenceman. The guy took two or three brutally slow wrist shots at the net, some of which totally missed. He looked like an AHLer, at BEST.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

We were definitely rolling out our C team on defense last night

Komisarek, Gyspers, Finger, Blacker…. none really impressed.

Franson was merely “okay”, and Schenn was great in the 1st then had a horrible 2nd period.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker had several moments where he flashed some real vision and skill,

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest, from my view behind the net, I didn’t see Blacker do much of anything.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

he made a couple nice defensive plays and a couple good offensive rushes

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s going to the Marlies, undoubtedly.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s just say I liked what I saw from Gardiner a lot more, even though they’ve been similarly compared over the last few weeks.

Of course Gardiner is a bit older and more pedigree.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Gardiner is better. But I really think we’ll see Blacker in the NHL one day.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he showed some creativity, it just didn’t always work out. A year in the AHL will help him straighten out his game.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ayup. He’ll get lots of PP time.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better how? Defensively Blacker is more polished and he has an obvious affinity for the physical side of the game. Good skater too, although obvious not the speedster Gardiner is. I actually wouldn’t be surprised to see Blacker get called up before Gardiner.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

not that I think either will be called up at all this season.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to think they will be, just given the likelihood of injuries.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holzer (or Lashoff, if he ends up down there) are the emergency recall guys for injuries, I think.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Midway through the season, if someone like Liles goes down…might want a puck moving defenceman up. Maybe not, but my money is with Blacker/Gardiner if they are adjusting well to the A in that kind of situation.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s why Burke got Franson. Gunnarsson can cover for a hypothetical injury to Liles.

If either of them get time up with the Leafs it will be after March.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I’d be surprised if neither gets the 1-3 game injury call up, NHL taste.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with this 100%.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like Gardiner is as you said, faster, and has more upside. Might be biased because of the hype he gets. But like I said Blacker will be and NHL player one day so it’s more relatively small differences as this point.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every camp Blacker has been to, he has impressed. Both players look like future top 4 defenders, and I’m content with that.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was very impressed with Blacker last year.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker was much better than Gardiner defensibly, but Gardiner blew Blacker out of the water offensively

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seemed to be about what we thought before, right?

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he also bailed out Gysbers a bunch fo times.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was pretty good on the PP in the 1st.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone was good in the 1st.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker impressed me.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have been excited about him, but last night i didn’t see it.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

number 12? really? I’d argue he was better than Schenn last night, Schenn played just as terrible as Finger at the very least, does that make Schenn our 11th worst defender?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finger had 2 or 3 shot blocks on the PK then kind of disappeared from usefulness.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was also steady for long stretches the rest of the game, not saying he was magnificent or anything but implying he is the leafs 12th defenseman after one preseason game is a might silly

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never said he was 12th. That was some other guy.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but that is what spawned the convo and where I was coming from with my argument

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I pulled a number out of my ass to signify there are many people above him on the charts. To me, he looked slow and out of place. Not unlike other defencemen this game, its true, but a few also haven’t played in the NHL (Blacker, Gysbers)

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was far better than Gysbers and Scott last night

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scott’s a forward, FWIW

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

really? wow, he was so slow he was always back with the defensemen, so i assumed

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh he had one shift where he looked like he was trying so hard and kept screwing it up.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

he kept falling

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by sportsfan2 on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott was brutal, how about that pass to absolutely nobody when he had the puck on the point

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, Gysbers has never played at the NHL level, and has all of 74 AHL games under his belt after 4 years at Lake Superior State University.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

so? Finger was, and is better than him, this ahead of him on the depth chart
the only defensemen ahead of him (skill wise) are Schenn, Phaneuf, Gunnar, Liles, Franson and for argument sake, lets add Komi and Gardiner, so 8th

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d put Lashoff before him as well.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lashoff sucks really really bad

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not at guitar!

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on, his songs aren’t that bad.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not as bad as Finger. I’d also put in Aulie before Finger.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

so 10th. I was off my two, which is not bad for hyperbole.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or semantics. Which is all this is.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, I’m also not coach of the toronto maple leafs, so my opinions matter about as much as the rest of us.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

YOU’RE NOT?

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

you also said that last night Finger PROVED why he was the Leafs 12th defender, now if that isn’t hyperbole….

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I stated it was hyperbole…plus, I did say “yet again”, hinting at his previous performances on this team. But yes, it is a slow day when my pre-coffee hyperbolic comment becomes a major debate.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m no hockey expert, just a fan and I’ve been here long enough to know not to take it personally, so no worries. I think Finger just has that JFJ stink on him, and I have so many bad memories post-lockout they just sort of blur together.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always been half serious with my Jeff Finger defense, I am aware he isn’t very good, but if he cost half as much as he does, he’d have been a mainstay on the Leafs bottom pairing and no one would have said boo about him

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering if he ends up on re-entry waivers at some point this season

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s all but certain to get waived and go back to the Marlies this month.

But might Burke eat the 1.75 for this year to a) try and get his career on track; and b) free up playing time for the many D that need it

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the Marlies have a pretty full D roster too, so eating half of the hit might be worth it from a developmental stand point, also solidifies his standing as a players GM

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s possible, but that would be two years at 1.75 million off our cap, correct? Alongside the 1 million we’re paying Tucker for what seems like eternity (though its only another two years IIRC). It’s not a big deal, but 2.75 million isn’t something you necessarily want to throw away….

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, on re-entry waivers you just take on half the cap hit for the remaining duration of the contract.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

only one year

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh okay, I can see that happening.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t. Finger will play the season out in the AHL.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t think someone takes a flyer on Finger @ 1.75 for depth?

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I don’t think Burke would throw away cap space like that because he still wants to be able to add salary in a trade.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bull.

It’s in the best interests long-term that all of the young D are able to get the playing time they need at the level they need it.

If Burke knows someone has interest in adding Finger but are only willing to pay half his cost, he’ll put him on re-entry, instead of holding cap space for some mythical trade that may or may not happen.

Besides, the cap-based deals he’s made in-season in the past have impacted the AHL more than the NHL, anyways (Brunnstrom, Voros, the Kolzig deal with Tampa). He could still do such a deal even if half of Finger’s deal is on the cap

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think Finger was in the minors last year when he was at least better than Lebda, and probably better than Aulie too? Because Burke wanted to keep that cap space open. This year we have significantly less cap space, and Burke has said that he’s still looking to add to the roster. Adding Finger’s salary would bring us extremely close to the cap, leaving very little room to maneuver if a player Burke likes becomes available.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

In conclusion, no one has really any idea why Fletcher decided Finger was worth 3.5 million a season for 4 years.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year the Marlies had more room on their blue like (no Gardiner or blacker) also Finger was injured for most of last year

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Drag. No way Finger gets recalled. Burke will want the cap space if the Leafs are in the hunt at the deadline.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

if the leafs are in the hunt"

key words here, if they arn’t, hello call up

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greg Brady just made an interesting point on twitter, saying that the Leafs think they can trade him at the deadline. Cap hit would, effectively, be low, and could help a playoff team who’s afraid of the Vancouver “We’re burning through defensemen” situation near the finals last year. We’d get almost nothing in return, and it wouldn’t really solve the developmental logjam for 2/3rds of the year, but he’d be gone. Would look good on Burke, too – serve a year and a half in the minors, go get a cup run.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

More importantly, if he keeps some cap space open through October and November, by the time the new year rolls around, he’ll have accrued enough cap space to add some significant salary without really impacting the ability to eat Finger’s cap hit if he needed to.

Cap deals don’t happen in October, drag. I’m looking ahead to February.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greg Brady just made an interesting point on twitter,

hah

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t Komi be easier to move then? I know there’s more years, but after this year he goes down to 3.5 million.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t Komi be easier to move then?

No.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finger’s an expiring contract.

Somebody near the cap floor gets him in and has no commitment beyond the summer

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Komisarek also has a NMC

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

His 10 teams list probably includes playoff contenders.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

But yeah, I’d take a 6th round pick for Finger.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’d be lucky to get it.

We got a 7th for John Mitchell.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

OTT got a 7th for Kovalev.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll take future considerations.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

id take a smoked meat sammich

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not ask for too much right away.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, “boo” might have been something we did say about him.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It definitely wasn’t “boo-urns”.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

why would Finger have JFJ stink when it was Fletcher that signed him?

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have so many bad memories post-lockout they just sort of blur together

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by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a stinky Finger joke in there somewhere.

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Hey Daoust...

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by pbkunkel on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you a fan??

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is Clearly worse than 5 guys and in the same stratosphere as 4 others, you are still way off

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is far worse than finger, Aulie is in the arguable category, and you can bet that if he was the age finger is and paid the same he would be just as bad

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a dull Wednesday when we’re debating who our 12th best defenseman is.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

WELCOME TO HOCKEY SEASON!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

LETS GO FLYERS !

Last night it was the BOB show

Today it should be a Breezy Win for the FLYERS !

Introducing Breezy and the FLY Boys !!

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by FLYERROB on Sep 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Then it’ll be Holmgren 2, Haters 0, right?

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

THE STANLY CUP IS THEIRS!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stanley!

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

joke, that is

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

wasn’t sure.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers will be the first team in history to have 82 shutouts this season.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean “The Stanly Cup is They’res”

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by Curt S on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait isn’t it “THE STANLY CUP IS THERES” ?

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by BlueBuds on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I care

I hope that they lose. Frequently.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am allowed to root for whatever team I want. Its called Friendly Sportsmanship. Unless you have a jelly spine or bruise like a peach. There is nothing wrong with rooting for a team. and Just like Back in Black below says, He cares, He hopes they lose frequently. Thats called competitive sportsmanship. rivalry. Considering that the FLYERS are Playing the Maple Leafs it is normal to have a rooting interest and talk about it.

Here let me educate you on some terms

competitive [kəmˈpɛtɪtɪv]
adj
1. involving or determined by rivalry

Noun 1. sportsmanship – fairness in following the rules of the game
fairness, equity – conformity with rules or standards; “the judge recognized the fairness of my claim”

see thats called Competitive Sportsmanship.. ooooo.. aaaahhhhh… yes.

Or maybe …

Verb 1. compete – compete for something; engage in a contest; measure oneself against others.

or better yet.

root3    [root or, sometimes, root] Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to encourage a team or contestant by cheering or applauding enthusiastically.
2.
to lend moral support: The whole group will be rooting for him.

Now just because I dont “Root” for the same team as you and my team is playing your team, doesnt mean that no one hear cares .. (Actually many Toronto people have told me that they like Philadelphia FLYERS as an organization and some said they enjoyed the 1970’s 1980’s or the Lindros 1990’s ..

So I beg to differ about your comment about nobody hear cares about the FLYERS and its not wise to speak for everyone as not everyone shares your (or my) opinion as you do.

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by FLYERROB on Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, see, if we cared about the Flyers, we would be on a Flyers blog. We follow a strict “one team” policy around here, and as such, want every team not named the Toronto Maple Leafs to lose.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

All other games I chat friendly with you. This is my team playing yours. Its normal.

and I expected to get killed from everyone but ..

LETS GO FLYERS !

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by FLYERROB on Sep 21, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe if you didnt get banned from the FLYERS blog you would have someone to talk to about the team that you love

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did FLYERROB get banned?

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was flyerrob

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense.

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask him.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did you go get banned, Robert?

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyerrob, I usually don’t join in with the Piranhas here who seem to love heckling you to no end as I respect you too much as a military veteran to do so, but I wondered many times why you spend so much time on a Leafs blog seeing that you are such an avid Flyers fan. I mean, I really like the pens, they are my second favorite team as Sid is currently my fav. player and Lemieux used to hold that title. But, I don’t spend an ounce of my time on any pens blog or site. So, it’s kind of strange that you spend so much time here. I mean, it’s cool and all and it sure does show you have thick skin to take the constant ribbing from the regulars around here.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He came on here around January last year to much fan fare (we gave him “PPP rookie of the year”). Soon after that he was banned by BSH (the Flyers blog). Over time some of the regulars around here got fed up with him and started ribbing on him heavily.

Personally I like him. Think he says some ridiculous things some times but I always try to be nice.

For the record we have a bunch of non leaf fan regulars around here. Off the top of my head:
Ubiquitous (Flyers fan)
Cornelious Hardenburgh (Boston fan)
Spezza team player )Sens fan)
Semi Colon (Nucks fan)

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man I always forget Semi Colon is a nucks fan.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d make a good undercover agent

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 21, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Close enough

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buffalo, Philadelphia, it’s all the same, they’re both in New York.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that the washington new york or the florida new york

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the california new york

by WizardofNaz on Sep 21, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

CALI

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please, no.

Don’t group us in with New York.
For one thing, our state, has better hockey teams. And Much better weather.

Plus the vast majority of hockey fans in California aren’t insufferably paranoid because we have won many cups………… wait, shit.

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by Diamondback15 on Sep 21, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant to say Sabres. Not sure why I didn’t.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

unimportant

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

like your face?

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

your face fails

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lol’d

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

they come because we’re awesome

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by sportsfan2 on Sep 21, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the Most accurate description above by BCapp…

He came on here around January last year to much fan fare (we gave him "PPP rookie of the year"). Soon after that he was banned by BSH (the Flyers blog). Over time some of the regulars around here got fed up with him and started ribbing on him heavily.

Personally I like him. Think he says some ridiculous things some times but I always try to be nice.

For the record we have a bunch of non leaf fan regulars around here.

Does that answer the big question for everyone ? Besides. .. BSH is very very Clique’ish and I didnt fit in with the Clique over there and when I was called rookie of the year here, they made a comment that i Misrepresented FLYERS fans by being on PPP and Chatting and being “Fair” (In other words .. not looking like a steriotype FLYER fan from philly who will slash and opposing teams fans tires for coming to the game from what I gathered.

I hope that clears that up… Much more clear than mud maybe.

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by FLYERROB on Sep 22, 2011 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Bob’s performance last night make you worry that bringing in Bryz may not have been the smartest move?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally worth it.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bob was good last night though. That pad save on the Kadri wraparound, and the save on Kessel’s nifty move from point blank were impressive.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my point. They don’t need Byrz for another 9 cussing years.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, just thought i’d drop in the Bob comment. He looked really solid.

/demandatradebobrovsky

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I was him I’d be looking to get out. Bryz’s contract isn’t going anywhere.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and that Read kid on the Flyers looked like one of the most dangerous players all night.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I ’m hoping for in our pool.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

what a hilarious situation

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

…and for the price of Richards and Carter.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO … I think it was awesome ! Bryz and Bob will play off of each other in a fair competitive tandum, they speak the same language, Bryz can win now and help Bob grow to supersede him as the next future starter. Kind of like Chris Terreri helped develop Martin Brodeur.

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by FLYERROB on Sep 21, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Terreri had a 9 year contract?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You realize that it’s more likely Bobrovsky gets traded than plays a game in Phili without Bryzgalov on the roster, right? If Bobrovsky succeeds, it probably won’t be in Phili at this point.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Holmgren didn’t want to sign Bryzgalov either. Didn’t Ed Snider basically issue an edict that Holmgren shalt sign him on pain of smiting?

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 21, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the rumours go.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

~

There are many rumors that BOB is playing each game as an Audition for another team pending a trade. It may happen, but the way I see it. If BOB plays well,… Why would you trade him away and have Michael (ugh! not this again!) Leighton as your backup. Leighton is up and down up and down up and down waaaaaayyyyyyy to much .. It makes sense to release Leighton or trade him (if someone else is willing to take a chance but he cleared waivers last year so all teams said “uhhh No Thanks!”) .. Release or trade Lights out Leighton and keep BOB as your backup for a season or 3 till he takes over.

PS … Unless Bryz plays well into his late years like Thomas, Hasek, or Brodeur.. His FLYER career wont live till the end of his contract.

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by FLYERROB on Sep 22, 2011 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should have just rolled with Bob for the future. Signed Theodore or something…

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vokoun as well. but the price may have been driven up if the Flyers needed him.

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me introduce you to the trap.

That is the style Phoenix played and contributed to Bryzs numbers.
Now he plays on the flyers, which, despite have one of the supposed best defenses last year, had a nagging habit of deciding to not play D in front of Boucher, then yelling at him for not stopping pucks as the Bruins were on the express line to the front of the crease, then they blamed it all on Boosh and booted him out of town. Thus marking the second time in his career that his hard effort was rewarded by being thrown under the Flyers bus.

So, you have fun with that.

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by Diamondback15 on Sep 21, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vanilla Chocolate & Strawberry….. Many flavors .. Many Opinions.

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by FLYERROB on Sep 22, 2011 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we all agree: Kadri belongs in the NHL?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

No way in hell he gets sent back down.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s two games only. He need to keep it up but looks great sofar.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup, he made some real nice plays last night that were wasted on Crabb

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He threw a few nice hits as well.
Obviously it’s only two games.
But he has looked great in both of them and has already shown he can produce in the AHL.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually thought he looked a lot more physical than I’ve seen him play since junior.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri looks focused, determined and ready to prove that he is a full time NHLer. He has really impressed me with his effort the last 2 games

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it's not really just two games

He looked alright in the AHL last season, he looked alright in the NHL last season, and the chemistry that he, Armstrong, and Bozak have been working on is just one more reason to keep him up.

Also, and this is totally a weak point, but Mirtle pointed out that we know that Burke associates Aulie with winning (of course, we understand that it was mostly because of Reimer) and so is highly unlikely to get sent down. Wouldn’t the same logic be applied to Kadri? I guess we don’t know for sure.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t but it looks as though he is here to stay.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, most definitely. Colborne gets the first shot at a forward call-up when Connolly gets injured.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s possible that Kadri finally realises that he’s not going to be an NHLer until he’s willing to work hard out there every shift. He’s playing like he thinks he’s battling for a roster spot, which he should be.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That happened at least three times last night, with Caputi, Zigomanis, and Scott.

I didn’t even realize the three of them were playing

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

he started on Kadri’s line

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caputi seemed relatively invisible.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d agree. Maybe he needs time in the AHL, I’d like to get a better look at him but I’m not sure he’s really going to be able to contribute much. He was injured for a while, though.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caputi and Connolly haven’t played a non scrimmage game in something like 10 months, going to give them a few at least to get back into it

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know, plus Caputi missed a whack of time last season.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

He apparently had a crazy surgery on his femur. Sounded like a big deal.

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by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be worse - could have signed Richards!
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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hahaha, awesome

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is his rooming with Gaborik?

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That injury bug is contageous.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Richards and Staal out right now, me likey

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

BOTH GUYS ARE ON MY HOCKEY POOL!!!

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by SPERO on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

well dont feel too bad, i took Zajac in 2 different pools…..

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This still makes me laugh.

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 21, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they can both afford their own hospital room

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Connoly played in the post season last year.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

news to me

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got hit by Richards IIRC

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think you’re right.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

and because it was Richards it was a hockey play, not a dirty hit.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m so happy he got traded to the west coast.

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need Richards to put away those fucking berzerkers.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

his love for you is like a truck

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you get Gears? Play with Nigel and me. Are you awake around 10pm EST?

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im still trying to choke my way through the first two gears, and no im not awake then

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit. We got smoked by Horde mode last night. It sent some giant monster thing that was like 200 feet tall at us.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’d pick it up if i wasnt going to buy like 10 other video games that i want more over the next few months

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

may try and read up on the boss mobs, how to kill em, like the Bezerker and those armored dudes

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

In GoW2, you killed the bezerker with the satellite laser thingy.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes we didn’t have one of those. We have flamethrowers which appear to make it made and bullets which seem to tickle.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mad.

Earlier last night while we were all pounding on something with bullets that was ignoring them I dropped the classic “Don’t do that. Guns just make him mad.”

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemmy said “Mad” with the Alfred E. Newman Profile PIC ..

HA !

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by FLYERROB on Sep 22, 2011 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think for the big fucking thing we need to shoot the weapons off it.

You’re up for more tonight, right?

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys are serious gaming nerds.

I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.

by daoust on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should be, i’m off for the afternoon so gonna play some of the campaign before the preseason game.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No but seriously, am I missing the joke here? We’re people confusing Scot and Zig for Crabb cause one’s number starts with “4” and the other ends in “6” and put together they were about as useful?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a joke. Just seemed like anytime anything happened it was because of Kadri’s line or Kessel’s line.

They were relatively invisible so I didn’t register that they were in the lineup. I also DVR’d so I was fast-forwarding through breaks and commercials

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, but Crabb was seriously NOT on the roster for last nights game.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

meh

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who the heck is Scott.

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Abostively

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He needs to cut out the toe drags on the rush and his defense is still pretty bad, but hey….big improvement from last summer everywhere else.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I mean he’s not exactly there for his defence.

And frankly, if he’s playing with Bozak and Army then those have enough of a defensive conscience that the Leafs can absorb some of Kadri’s sub-par defence.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has improved, he had two defensive zone hits in one shift last night, which was good to see.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s never going to be a Selke candidate and we don’t need him to be.

He’s likely playing with our #1 PK unit. That’s not the worst pair of linemates I could imagine.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You also have to think the defensive side of Armstrong’s game will rub off on Kadri.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

hope so

But this is preseason still. Kadri has looked like what i hoped he would — an offensive threat at the NHL level.

I like that armstrong/kadri/bozak line a lot, but i want to see them do something good against actual NHL players at some point.

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

what a beast last night. He looked like he was the only one from last nights lineup that actually belongs in the NHL ( and Franson)

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROLSTON
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Islanders will name their captain today.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Dipietro

He’s a real leader.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how you can lead the team from the stands….

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tavares only so they can use his contract as a negotiating point. “Think you’re worth more than captain?”

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be ecstatic.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to hurry before whoever they name suffers a season-ending injury.

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Okposo

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

winner

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Gillies

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Yashin

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Close, but no cigar
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Alexei Yashin close to signed with CSKA Moscow.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

can I make one joke today without it being taken seriously?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh i just saw that tweet come up right after you said it.

It seems topical.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

was this a joke or are you being serious?

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll never tell

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frans Nielsson! He’s so underrated!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wang names Garth Snow Captain, Billy Smith and Bret Lindros alternates

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by elseldo on Sep 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wang announces Josh Bailey.

Just because this franchise makes so many mis-steps, it would be typical for them to do this, and leave Snow to explain why they’re waiving their captain.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope its an extremely obscure choice like Harmonic. Or a ridiculous one, like Gillies. But it will be Tavares

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gillies!

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by not norm ullman on Sep 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, are they seriously playing another game tonight?

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes. But expect the teams to be 80% different.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup, hell only MacArthur and Blacker were playing back to backs last night

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s the other, I knew there were two

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blacker didn’t play Monday I don’t think.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i was thinking Ryan, but you are correct

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colborne did as well, I think hes playing tonight as well

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

again with the too many “as wells”

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking that as well.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Figured as much. I had no idea they were playing 3 games in 3 nights.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

and 5 games in 6 nights.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because they called up 70 players. Pretty much handing out games to players like Oprah.

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 21, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun fact: The Flyers also had 70 players in training camp.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We clearly have different definitions of the word “fun”.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

RJ Umberger staying in CLB
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We have signed RJ to a 5 year extension. Thrilled to have such a big part of our team signed long term.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

$4.6M/year
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Dispatch: #CBJ have signed R.J. Umberger to a 5 year, $23M contract extension.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

wut

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously?

4.6M? A year?

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by Semi_Colon on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s at least a million a year too much right now.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the kind of money we’ll be looking at giving Kulie soon.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grabbo is gonna break our bank if that’s what Umberger is worth

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by Curt S on Sep 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's worry about that later, shall we :)

If Kulemin and Grabbo both have another great 60 pts year, then yeah, they’re both getting raises.

Our only high-paid UFA to be (besides Grabbo) is Liles.

If nothing else, maybe you take Liles $4.5 and give 1/2 to Grabs and 1/2 to Kulie for raises. And one of the offensive dman kids steps up next year for sheltered 3rd pairing minutes.

Feel better now?

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

also Finger

forgot about him.

And the cap goes up. We’re fine.

Let’s worry about having good players. If we do, we can pay them.

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by pevans on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

$4.5 million isn’t going to be enough to cover Kulie and Grabbo’s raises if they both perform like they did last year.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it’s push come to shove, we keep Kulemin and (if Grabbo repeats) trade him for a king’s ransom. I guess. But I would hope the cap increase + 4.5 million will do it. We still have some space now….about 1 million-ish.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have enough fenagling room. Besides a new CBA is coming…

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barring an unforseen drop-off in production this year, I think Kulie likely comes in at $4.5 million per season while Grabbo gets $5 -$5.5 million. We have the room to get it done, but it’s going to cost us a good chunk of cap space.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

At that price you sign Kulemin and trade Grabbo at the deadline.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, especially if Grabbo gets us a good prospect and/or picks. And if he does the same as last year, he should.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

40-45 points with 20G at the deadline gets a 1st rounder +.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

knowing Burke he goes after younger “underperforming” players with upside, IE JVR last year with versteeg

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grabbo+Gunnar+1st for Parise?

/ducks

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If thats all it took I think most people would be okay with it..

by WizardofNaz on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

another team could probably beat that package

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, but NJ also needs some centres.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am completely on the Gunnar bandwagon

And think he is disgustingly underrated, but I would pack his bags myself for this trade.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a pure boxstats point of view, if Grabbo pulls in 25ish goals and high 50 points he’ll be pretty comparable to Umberger.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for Umberger?

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nash, Carter and him are going to have a nice little club of “pretend we love it here, but secretly hate it” going on

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

"pretend we love it here, but secretly hate it LOVE $$$$$$$$$"

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

“wait, you mean I can play in front of a decent, excited crowed with some skill players, make a butt load of cash, but still go to the grocery store without being harassed in a nice city? Fucking A!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you just call Columbus nice?

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe “nice” in the way that girls try to set you up with their friend and the only compliment they can come up with “ohhhh she’s sooooooooooo…. nice”

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

compared to some NHL cities? Columbus is nice, at least it has some decent surrounding areas that players can live in

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, actually it looks not that bad

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s still ohio though.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yah, which makes it boring, but then most of Canada is boring so it might feel like home

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

its funny cause it’s true

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Total shithole.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Jeff Carter will love Columbus. All those college girls…

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where’s he gonna get his coke from?

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

College kids

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

A polar bear.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

from the guy in the background of this gif

who only appears in the most dire of situations.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is an awesome beard on that…wizard?

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That guy shaking his head has gotta be Tarantino, yeah?

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously who the hell is the wizard?

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the great thing about college girls. I get older, they stay the same age. Mmmm-hmmm.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not to play hockey. It’s just to sit around and remind Howson of the Pascal Leclaire trade.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I felt bad for Colborne on that giveaway. To be fair, it was a great pass just to the wrong player.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Should have got an assist on the play.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It looked like he just flubbed it. I think with a little more confidence he’d just carry the puck instead of dishing it right away.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he needed to get a step – MacArthur was ahead of the puck because he was already ready for the break-out pass. Colborne was standing still.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

This kind of got buried in the game threads yesterday, so here’s the response I got from the NHL about watching Leafs games on GameCenter if you live in Ottawa:

All national games will be blacked out (CBC/TSN), in addition to all game against Ottawa and Montreal, but everything else is watchable.

All games against the Habs are on CBC though, so that’s not a problem. There are 16 games on TSN, 2 games against the Sens on Sportsnet, and 24 games on CBC. That leaves 40 games that you can watch through GameCenter. At $160 for the full year, that works out to $4 per game (assuming you don’t watch any other teams play).

Hopefully that’s enough information for various Ottawa area people to figure out if it makes sense for them to subscribe or not.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you!

I owe you a beer. At 4$ a game for an HD game, I’m in. I will happily sign up for it once the App on PS3 allows me to.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can just plug my computer into the TV for the CBC games – leaves only 16 games on TSN and 2 Sens sportsnet games without a legit connection. Not bad.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go to a sports bar

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s not many good ones near me. A new one came in, so I’ll see if they will willingly put Leafs/Anyone else on when the Sens are playign a different game.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re in where, Ottawa?

You might have to do a bit of research but I’d wager there’s at least one or two Leaf-friendly places up there.

At worst, TSN games should be pretty easy to find a stream of

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I wasn’t complaining. I’m really happy I can finally watch hockey in HD again after many years (Obviously I caught some at bars/other people’s houses but not at home). It’s not so much if a bar is Leaf-friendly than if they have a lot of TVs. A new bar opened near me with about a dozen TVs, so that’s an option. Several other nearby bars have 0-2 TVs, so those are harder to get the Leafs game for.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s talk on twitter of having a group of Leafs fans booking a bar room for regular game nights, to have as a home base to watch the games. Failing that, we should try again for a PPP Ottawa meetup, and maybe can find a place for games that aren’t on (I plan on getting Centre Ice, and might be able to host)

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by BetterThanBester on Sep 21, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are welcome to organize it here with a Fanpost/shot or whatever. We’ll front page it.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks… I did that last year, hopefully more than 2 of us make it out this time!

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by BetterThanBester on Sep 21, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

what access do they have to leafs games that most citizens in ottawa don’t?

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by sportsfan2 on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

One observation after two games.

Systems-wise, I’m much happier with the special teams.

There is a lot more aggressive movement out of both PP and PK, and it’s been creating chances and looks much more effective.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally. The PP seems to be more fluid, lots of movement from the 3 high guys. Defence moving in down low trying to get into an open lane, guys like Connolly and Kadri can thread the needle.

Keeping the opposition PK moving is key, need to open up a lane for DIons shot

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the way they were working the PP as well.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the shaft got a lot of work, but they forgot to cup the balls

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tonight's Roster
Goalies: Jonas Gustavsson, Ben Scrivens

Defence: Keith Aulie, Cody Franson, Jake Gardiner, Carl Gunnarsson, Korbinian Holzer, Mike Komisarek, Juraj Mikus, Luke Schenn

Forwards: Colby Armstrong, Darryl Boyce, Tyler Bozak, Luca Caputi, Joe Colborne, Jerry D’Amigo, Philippe Dupuis, Matt Frattin, Ryan Hamilton, Nikolai Kulemin, Greg McKegg, Colton Orr, Jay Rosehill

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=589205&navid=DL|TOR|home

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

MCKEGG

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or in a more picturesque format

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No need to be Frattin about that roster, especially since McKegg and Aulie the other juniors have been working on getting their Armstrong.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS NOT WHERE THE PUNS GO!!

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

That depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Gardiner Mikus Holzer in the ground.

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is making a Rosehill.

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like making a mountain out of a rosehill

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aulie wants to do is inject some fun in this thread, why are you Frattin about it?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like the weakest line-up we’ve iced so far.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still remembering what Joe Bowen said during the Ottawa game.

Typically, teams dress a more veteran squad at home and a younger side on the road (and Ottawa and Philly’s lineups the last two nights bear that out)

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense; lets the home fans see the players they actually paid to see.

Case in point: in the Jets/Jackets split squad game, the likes of Ladd, Byfuglien, etc played at home, while it was mostly their lesser players who went to Columbus.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 21, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That also helps build fan support in split squad situations in that both team’s home fans get to see a win.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a club can evaluate how their rookies play against real NHLers without the fans booing them mercilessly.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No shit.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

“what do you mean you guys aren’t ready for the NHL yet??!! That’s why we drafted you!”

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem like any of the standard lines/pairings will be there.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, there’s 8 defencemen there. Was this the case previous nights?

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats a 23 man roster (ie the amount that is on the club at any one time). I believe only 20 get dressed.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

18 skaters
2 goalies

Wilson has to scratch 3.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah okay, that makes sense.

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct me if i’m wrong but is this a 3 gamer in a row for Joe Colborne?

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by Bullets on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess they really want him to try and prove his worth to the team.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t there a rule about not playing 3 games in 3 nights? I notice there’s 13 forwards; maybe he is the scratch?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Guess the Flyers liked Couturier's play last night
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He looked big on the ice.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Somebody has to replace Ville Leino….

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can’t hold his contract.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought so as well, that kid looks like a steal at 8

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Steal at anything out of the top 3

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by happiergilmore on Sep 21, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still can’t believe he fell to 8th but eh…

by Goosemonster on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a sidenote

all the twitters are saying this puts Flyers over the 50 contract limit, so he might immediately go down.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they might be over anyways. They’re at 52 with only one SR.

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by birky on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is stupid. They should be sliding this contract.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

contract still slides if he goes to jr does it not?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Sorry, I took it to mean they weren’t sliding him.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They still very well could. Hell they can slide it for the next 2 years if they so desire, but looking at their roster, they’ll probably need him. They lost Richards, Carter, Versteeg, Carcillo, and Leino from their top 9. They got back Simmonds, Schenn, Vorachek, and Jagr. Still have a spot to fill.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

They aren’t winning it all this year. Their window is a few years down the road, and they’ll need a guy like Coturier on the cheap at that time. It wil be plain bad management not to slide him.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say their window is right about now. Pronger isn’t getting any younger; neither are Briere, Hartnell, Timonen, and Bryzgalov.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t, but dumping Carter, and Richards and signing Bryz moved it to now, or maybe in another 6 years.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why the Carter and Richards moves make even less sense. Sure they just made their offense younger, but their defense is old, and so are their goalies.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Those trades are okay if your goal is to re-build with a younger core around Bob as goalie. They are insane if you subsequently sign Bryz to a 9 year deal.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could have tried to sell of Briere, Hartnall, and Timonen. Hell imagine what they could get for Pronger if anyone was betting they would offer a buy-out amnesty with the next CBA.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really have anything else to add, just wanted to Burtch.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Briere Hartnell Timmonen and Pronger all have NTC’s that are in effect

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade for any of them besides Briere.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d definitley trade Hartnell.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

for*

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops misread your post. I agree with you. Carry on, nothing to see.

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, he’s the only one that would bring back a decent return, but if they had traded Hartnell for a 4th and Timonnen for a 6th or whatever, they’d have Carter, Richards AND Bryz and be a much better team right now

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Timmonen could have returned something from Detroit at the beginning of the summer.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you blow up a team that’s made it to the SCF 2 years ago and the ECF 2 year before that? They won their division last year for goodness sake.

Something’s not working. Blow it all up.
Huh?

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I don’t think it’s a good idea, but they went with some sort of hybrid that makes even less sense.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

…bad management…

Like I said.

The team as currently put together isn’t good enough to win, unless Giroux takes a major step and BSchenn is a prodigy.

Pronger and Timmonen are really really good but old, Prongs in particular has had injury trouble. And it wouldnt be a surprise to see either take a step back. Carle and Coburn are good, but not at that level.

Briere was sheltered last year, Hartnell the same (and he’s not that good). Bryz won’t be enough.

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Have we baited FLYERROB enough, or should we keep going?

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by clrkaitken on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really thought this summer would include a move for Bogosian.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter for 7th overall + Bogosian ?

by samspade on Sep 21, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant AFTER the Carter and Richards trades. My thought process was “they have made their forward corps much younger, now to do the same with the D corps led by 2 38 year olds.”

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in net, they’ve got this promising young prospect…who will forever have to play behind an old goaltender.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was always now. Their D core contains two 38 year olds.

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter and Richards would have kept it open a little longer.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

last years Flyers roster – Hartnell and Timmonen + Bryz = better than current

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year’s roster unchanged is

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but they- erroneously- felt that they needed to do something.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux, Briere, Schenn, Hartnell, JVR, Voracek, Nodl, Jagr, Talbot.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a pre-season pre-view WOW

http://theleafsnation.com/2011/9/21/leafs-head-to-philly

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Is that the GDT?

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait GREENOPP made the cut!? WTF? I would’ve thought he would’ve been cut before Devane at least… or Ross

by WizardofNaz on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

was greenop even at camp?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I saw his name somewhere.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda thought Heard had a chance to be a marlie, ah well

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

can still sign him to an AHL contract

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t he have been likely to be sent to Marlie’s camp then?

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does “released” mean in this context?

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by theninjagreg on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It means at this time they aren’t invited to the Marlies training camp.

by WizardofNaz on Sep 21, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this is how the world ends, not with a bang but with a Facebook status update

Mike Modano announces his retirement

This is obviously a much better end to his career than that night in Minnesota.

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Wonder if his profile pic is a big hit with the ladies.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brent Severyn has a piece in Sports Illustrated on the life of an enforcer. It’s a good read.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Mark Streit captain of the Islanders. A good call.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Should have been Gillies

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OW MY BONES

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

First Swiss captain in the NHL, no? And I’m predicting this year’s injury will be an unfortunate fondue accident.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Sep 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I mentioned last week that I had read a post about how many shifts were started on the fly vs from faceoffs, but I couldn’t find the link. Well, I found it, so here it is:

http://drivingplay.blogspot.com/2011/09/on-zone-starts.html

Turns out I actually under-estimated how many shifts start on-the-fly:

The first thing I noticed is that the first shift only accounts for about 37% of the ice time following a faceoff at either end. Part of that is that I’m being very strict defining the first shift; it would increase if I allowed for one guy to leave the ice, for example.

Anyway, the article is awesome and you should read it.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 21, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWJC7tlYck

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

boooooooooooooooooooooo

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Banned.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know when you laugh so hard no sound comes out?
that was me for the past 5 mins

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

hilarious.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

The more of this stuff that comes out, the more it kills me.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

New Fan Shot to track PPP bets

Hey all I made a fan shot to track bets made around PPP. Please use it to keep track of all of them.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t someone promise to eat a shoe in the last couple of weeks? That one needs to go in there.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Sep 21, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Find it and I’ll stick it in

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or find it and stick it in your self. lol

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found and added.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops we double posted it.

by TheCeej on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worth it for hilarity.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it was me.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have made repeated claims that Gus would have a great year. i’m not sure i wagered anything exactly. except my pride.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 21, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Fucking. Way.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fake. Fake fake fake.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I mean that’s the fake lebrun account.

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real_ESPNLeBrun v RealESPN_Lebrun

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by Bower Power on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure its not a fake account?

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck me

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Visit Montreal.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

this gets better and better

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Underscore on the twitter handle is not in the right spot.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate everyone.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 21, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

We <3 you too

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

loool
so cute

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by sportsfan2 on Sep 21, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nino Niederreiter, Michael Grabner, NYI 1st and Travis Hamonic to the LA Kings in exchange for Drew Doughty and a 3rd. Done Deal

Hey Skinny, do you think that’s a fair deal?

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

BURKE SHOULD HAVE TRADED KADRI AND GREG MCKEGG

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND KOMISAREK TO BALANCE SALARY BECAUSE LA WOULD HAVE A HOLE IN THEIR DEFENCE TO FILL

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh well obviously

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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that though, if we are going to throw away all those assets we might as well go for Kopitar

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

hilarious

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOUGHTY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OURS THIS YEAR

Pension Plan Puppets*
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by Chemmy on Sep 21, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first it seems like overpayment, but at least they get a 3rd rounder coming back. Good trade.

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love that random 3rd.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ skinny

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by nhlcheapshot on Sep 21, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should all ’rec it.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 21, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Look at all these Rumors … How they follow me every day!”

1980’s Retro tune comes to mind

FLYERROB ! YOU STAY AWESOME FLYERS FANS ! ~ ~ ~ Lori Wilson Gray ~ ~ April 07th 1967 - May 27th 2011 ~ May you rest in Peace ~ I love you and miss you big Sis ! I cant believe at 44 yrs of age .. you went to sleep and never woke up. I promise to take care of Matt and Emily for you. With Love, your baby Brother.

by FLYERROB on Sep 22, 2011 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Modano

well the REAL Pierre LeBrun is reporting he is retiring.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

He posted it on his facebook earlier in the day and will have a press conference on Friday.

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by BCapp on Sep 21, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the raptor one is better

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 21, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a smashed face dog though, the Triceratops would be better, the raptor is cool though.

by Nigel Cadbury on Sep 21, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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