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Man, oh man, I have a veritable buffet of links in store for you this morning. This FTB took double the amount of time it normally takes to complete, but I promise you that it won't disappoint. Every kind of drama you can imagine can be found here: suspensions, suspensions, and more suspensions (and more to come), childish name-calling, a 24/7 and Winter Classic announcement, a Cup guarantee by Glen Sather, and of course, lots of news and discussion on the Leafs' training camp.

Naturally, we turn first to James Mirtle of the Globe and Mail for coverage and commentary of the remaining battles for Leafs roster space:

"It's very competitive right now," Wilson said. "Last year, at the end, we weren't very deep on the back end and he was able to get in there and play well. Now we have to see can he play well when there's a little bit of competition and pressure from other people. He's in a fight."

So there are two likely cuts: Scrivens and one of Gardiner or Aulie.

More to come from Mirtle and all the other usual suspects after the jump, but first, I feel it would be responsible to clear up this little rumor:

Brian Huddle
Dregs mentioned BB kicking tires on a package including (possibly) Bozak and Gunnar

Mirtle later Tweeted that he had not heard anything of the sort, and Dreger had this to say in reply:

Darren Dreger
. The only way either would be in play would be for a big forward. Can't see it happening anytime soon.

So let's not fret about that just yet.

Star-divide

Leafs Links:

NHL’s concussion victims ready to face future
Lombardi, Crosby, Perron making progress toward NHL return. Again, from Mirtle.

Leaf Lombardi passes ‘big test’
i don't usually link to The Star (at least, not their Sports section), but no one else is proclaiming quite so boldly as Bob Mitchell is here, that Lombardi is feeling more and more confident about a return, just perhaps, in the pre-season.

Can Gardiner follow in Kaberle's Foot-Steps?
Over at The Leafs Nation, Danny Gray wonders if Gardiner can surprise everyone by cracking the big roster the same way that Kaberle did back in 1998.

What Should the Leafs Do With Jake Gardiner?
Jonathan Willis agrees that it would be best to send him to the Marlies and use Komisarek as benchweight.

Marlies Sign Irwin to AHL Contract
Yes, most of you will already have seen this, and no, it's not big news, but here it is anyway, just in case. From Garrett Bauman at MLHS.

Inside The Blue And White Bubble: Monster Sharp in Road Loss vs Sabres
A bit late for a game recap, but Owen Durkin figures that Jonas Gustavsson was the Leafs' best player in the most recent loss to the Sabres.

TML Fan Fury: Training camp battles...Kadri vs Frattin, Gustavsson vs Scrivens, Gardiner vs Aulie
The folks (or perhaps more accurately, the one lone folk) over at TML Fan Fury break down the remaining training camp battles that Mirtle touched on in his article.

Predicting the Eastern Conference – Version 2.0
I think that David Johnson's prediction of 7th in the East for the Leafs is quite optimistic, but he's happy to share his rationale.

The Tragic Flaw in Brian Burke's Plan
Curt S at Blue Chip Prospects thinks Brian Burke overlooked the effects of a rising Canadian Dollar. Hard to predict such a thing, if you ask me.

 

Other Hockey Links:

James Wisniewski suspended Video
Here is the Shannaban video explaining Wis' suspension from the NHL's website.

Brad Staubitz suspended Video
Another explanation.

Brad Boyes Suspension Explanation
You've probably already seen this one, but it involves a Leafs player, so I've included it anyway. In that sense, it's somewhat of a Leafs link, but I've grouped it here with the other Shanahammer videos.

James Wisniewski, Brad Staubitz given multiple-game bans for hits
If you haven't been following the Shannaban Banithon, you're missing out. Wis gets the rest of the pre-season, and 8 reg. season games, while Staubitz gets the remainder of the pre-season, plus another 3 reg. season matches. This link is mostly included for those of you unable to watch video at work. From Reuters at the Globe.

Canadiens sign Chris Campoli: What does it mean?
It means Andrei Markov and PK Subban are still injured. Also, womp womp. From Jared Book at the Hockey Writers.

Rossy’s OHL Rundown
Brendan Ross at the Hockey Writers with previews, updates, and an interview with Max Domi.

Underdog deals may help shape East
Trades that brought Troy Brouwer to the Capitals and Robyn Regehr to the Sabres may not be highlights of the NHL offseason, but they'll impact the playoff picture. Jeff Blay elaborates at The Good Point.

Was Alain Vigneault right to play the Nathan Horton card?
An interesting comparison, actually. I'd say that both hits were were borderline late, but that Murray's hit was more North-South than Aaron Rome's hit on Horton this past summer. This time from Harrison Mooney at PD.

Sean Avery: Wayne Simmonds used homophobic slur against me
Well, isn't this just the pot calling the kettle... uh, let's drop the metaphor, here. AHEM. In other news yesterday, the human torch was denied a bank loan. From Wyshynski at PD.

Lowetide: Would You Offer Sheet Doughty?
I'd do all kinds of things to Doughty. Like, ask him to play for the Toronto Maple Leafs, for instance.

Everyone’s got an angle
Among other things, Tyler Dellow comments on the effects of a strong Canadian Dollar.

Flyers, Rangers officially set for Winter Classic, Sather Forgets His Meds
Yesterday, the league made official what we all already knew, and announced the Winter Classic. Of course, the bums also quietly cancelled the Heritage Classic a while ago to make the WC just that much more "special". Oh, and they announced that there will be another series of 24/7, focusing on the Flyers and Rags, and Glen Sather promised to win the Stanley Cup this year.

Tom Sestito faces likely suspension, further blurring camp roster battles
Suspensions that complicate roster battles is something that the Leafs have not had to deal with, yet - knock on wood. This is a really dirty hit by Sestito, and deserves a pretty serious suspension. Here's hoping Shannaban keeps 'em comin'.

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Look at all them links.

Makes me happy to see so many hockey stories.

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by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 7:21 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s almost like the regular season is here.

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so great.

Reasining helps me with matrh!

by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ice Dogs home opener this thursday. Very excited.

I’ll be at the Feb game against The Soo, that game should be a real dog fight.

oh i’m laughing at my own bad joke.

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by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Shanahan is getting serious about these hits to the head. About fucking time, but it’s great to see the league already throwing around suspensions in pre-season. My guess is they will be VERY harsh as the season progresses (relative to what they were). I mean they already suspended Wisniewski for 8 regular season games. That’s 1/10 of the season for a pre-season dirty hit. So, in conclusion, fuck Damian Cox, who went on a long rant about how the NHL isn’t “really” cracking down. Suspending a guy for 1/10th of the season for a pre-season hit seems like a big crackdown to me. I bet an incident like that in regular season will demand potentially a higher sentence.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I also love how he’s going all Ned Stark on these suspensions with these videos too. Excellent stuff.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he does not completely go the way of Ned Stark.

by HACKEY17 on Sep 27, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t trust Littlefinger!!

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bettman or Campbell?

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d go with Cambell; Bettman seems more like a Cersei.

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love these videos, and the way Shanny is dropping the fucking rock on guys. I hope he keeps it up all year.

I had something really clever to say here. But I forgot.

by daoust on Sep 27, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will reserve judgment until Ovechkin hits somebody from behind. Then we shall see what Shanahan is made of

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the standard? You might be waiting a while.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was being a bit oblique about it but the point is we don’t know how tough Shanahan really is until a superstar does something suspendable.

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the videos are great, I like how they will create a source of precedent for future incidents so there will be some consistency in the suspensions.

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by Shield on Sep 27, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 players suspended during the pre-season is pretty serious. Are there usually this many dirty hits in the pre-season? I can’t remember last year that well, but why do games look so chippy and dirty?

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because finally someone is drawing attention to the issue. In prior years you might catch a boarding hit on sportscentre but forget about it 5 minutes later because that’s the last you hear about it.

by lucc on Sep 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shanahan is trying to nip this problem in the bud before the actual season starts. He’s laying down the law with an iron fist as a deterrent to the rest of the league to cut this shit out or else. It sucks to be the guys getting this harsh treatment, but if it cleans up the game it’s worth it.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of those hits were really, really, worthy of suspensions. The Wizniewski one in particular, those hits can take a player out for a full season or more.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the fact that he never had the puck and play had stopped. I don’t think the suspensions are overly harsh, just surprised at how many incidents there have been in a week of hockey.

Come get your duds in order...

by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is Sesito a repeat offender? Because his hit was probably the worst of the preseason

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by PKSube on Sep 27, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was the worst. No idea if he;s a repeat offender but man, it looked like he came all the way from the top of the circle to make that hit. Even dodged around his own player to get there.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dreger just tweeted that he is not a repeat offender.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I like seeing this crackdown, I would have preferred if it could have happenned to a guy who isn’t a big part of my fantasy team.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

New post at VLM

Late post added…comparing this year’s Leaf squad with the last Leaf team that made the playoffs (2003-’04) today a thttp://vintageleafmemories.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-this-years-team-stacks-up-against.html Two very different “eras” but send your views along…

by Vintage Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah the JFJ era began. I remember Tucker sending Sami Kapanen to the moon and then JR scoring.

by HACKEY17 on Sep 27, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Damien Cox

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It was interesting that a few minutes after Phaneuf lightly scolded Reimer, the kind of reminder of the importance of details a captain is supposed to provide, Kessel cruised half-speed through a skating drill. While others dug in to a high-paced, stop-and-start routine between the bluelines — nobody practises harder than Nik Kulemin, by the way — Kessel exerted himself just enough to make sure he wasn’t obviously slacking off. Later, he was first off the ice.
While Phaneuf is all about eye-bulging intensity, sometimes misplaced, Kessel is the opposite, the champion of letting God-given talent do the heavy lifting. One doubts there’s much that Phaneuf or Wilson or anybody could say to put a fire under Kessel, a fire he’ll light himself twice every five games or so. The fact he can score 30 goals falling out of bed makes that fact he could probably pop 50 if he cared to ring every ounce of possibility out of his ability that much more maddening.
Maybe he’ll put the pedal to the metal this season. It could happen. If he does, he could carry this club to the post-season.

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

come on, i was enjoying my time here this morning and then bam! you put Cox all up in my face.

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by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why I put the title so you can minimize it

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah I’m just going after the easy ones today.

Doing performance reviews so i need to keep myself entertained in between

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by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like regurgitated “Sundin can’t lead team to Cup” talk from 10 years ago.

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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Sep 27, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

it’s true we never won a cup. but we only ever sniffed one because of Mats.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 27, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh i guess I should preface that cough. Mats was amazing, but we dont sniff the conference finals in 02 without Gary

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He single-handedly pulled us through several playoff series’ Remember those double and tripple OTs? Jesus, the man stopped over 80 shots and he kept going and going.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

solid cough

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somoene better make a run for Robotussin.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for Gary Roberts love.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um . . . I may have hit “Flag” by accident.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flag’d for too much man?

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

a fire he’ll light himself twice every five games or so.

Sounds like more asinine “he’s a streaky player” talk, that we’ve proven to be absolutely bunk.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like Cox has been covering tennis all summer and got his intern to dig up some old re-hashed drivel for his article

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe Kessel should take up tennis in the off season. or have the Leafs replace their charity golf tourney with a tennis one and Cox will act like he covers the Sens.

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by elseldo on Sep 27, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Headline
PHIL KESSEL IS THE SINGLE GREATEST PLAYER IN HOCKEY TODAY

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

EVERYONE LOVES PHIL KESSEL, ESPECIALLY THIS GUY WRITING THIS ARTICLE!

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Erm… no, it wasn’t. Phil Kessel is a streaky player.

It’s a ridiculous article, obviously taunting Leafs fans, but to say Kessel is streaky would be accurate.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Practice? We’re talking about practice?

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly there are not enough gpg scorers in the league. When was the last time somebody scored 82?

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one expects any player to score 82. It’s also not just about goals, even though the discussion surrounding Kessel is sometimes limited to that.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should’ve used the sarcasm font.

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selanne or Lemieux i’d imagine.

by samspade on Sep 27, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selanne never scored 82, his highest is 76 IIRC. Brett Hull was the last to score 82 or more, with 86 in 90-91, although Mogilny was nearly gpg in 92/93 with 76 goals in 77 games.

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by AM18 on Sep 27, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Reimer Quotes:

"The contract was a huge reward for how I played. It’s a crazy amount of money, and I’m blessed to have it. I always compare it to my dad and how hard he’s worked in his life just to give a schmuck like me a chance to achieve my dreams."

by HACKEY17 on Sep 27, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to lean on intangibles, but that’s part of the reason I think Reimer can succeed at this level. My guess is Burke is the same…he (and his staff) always talks about the importance of character: a player with all the right tools and skills can still fail if they don’t have it.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well to be fair, look how easy it is these days to score 50 goals. The fact that Phil isn’t doing that alone is an outrage we should not as Leaf fans be dumb enough to tolerate!

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kessel cruised half-speed through a skating drill. While others dug in to a high-paced, stop-and-start routine between the bluelines — nobody practises harder than Nik Kulemin, by the way — Kessel exerted himself just enough to make sure he wasn’t obviously slacking off. Later, he was first off the ice.

This is a real slam on Kessel… I wonder if any of the other MSM guys (Mirtle perhaps?) could kind of confirm what Cox is saying here… is Kessel really such a “slacker” in practice? How can Cox know that he was putting in “just enough” so that no one would notice that he was actually slacking off? Seems like total horsecrap and a completely unneccessary dig at Phil. First one off the ice? Big deal, maybe he had appearances or something else going on that he needed to be at? The order of players off the ice isn’t a litmus test for character and leadership

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Kessel never backchecks and he’s so lazy, i mean come on its obvious. What did he get, like 30 goals and about 60 points? pffffttttttt soo lazy why did we trade for a perennial 30-goal scorer rabble rabble rabble.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really dont like how Phils work ethic and practice habits are questioned so frequently. I dont buy what Cox is selling here at all. From all accounts early in training camp Phil came ready to rock in the best shape of his career. He hasnt quite clicked with Connolly yet, but Phil has looked quick, agile and dangerous in the games we’ve seen from him so far.

Ripping a guy like this for what a writer perceives as a lazy run through on a drill is pretty sad in my book

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Owned!1

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

black and blued

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by not norm ullman on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

What looks like laziness

Might be the (seeming) effortlessness that comes from elite skill. We’re not used to seeing that around these parts. And he’ll never be a power forward, we know that. Come on!

by GettinGiggy on Sep 27, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s accuse him of being lazy if he does that in a game. I doubt that’ll be the case.

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don’t think it really surprises anyone that is the case. Phil Kessel is a lot of things, but he’s not Nikolai Kulemin. Which is fine. I don’t like the narrative of “lazy floater” either, but I think sometimes people are too defensive of any criticism that comes from someone like Cox. Maybe Kessel was taking a lazy run through one practice. It’s not indicative of anything else, unless it becomes a pattern and his production drops.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

indeed, for all we know Kessel might have taken a puck off the ankle or something in a previous drill and wasn’t going full bore out of precaution

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson just mentioned that Kessel has a pulled groin, wasn’t even suppose to play tonight

by Gebx on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

typo (?) “tight” groin not pulled

by Gebx on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

There we go.

The right and best answer

"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski

by MapleLeafMole on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is why i was wondering if maybe someone like mirtle (or anyone who regularly gets to see the team practice) could confirm this as bias or truth

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

And by the way its “wring every ounce of possibility” not “ring every ounce of possibility”.

/pedant

by GettinGiggy on Sep 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

/msmshouldemployeditors.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Sep 27, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt any of the MSM websites edit the blog posts.

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is largely the case.

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by Berezin's Spleen on Sep 27, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

However,

This is verbatim from the print article (I checked) :)

by GettinGiggy on Sep 27, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Tickle Me Aulie on Sep 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t buy it. Looks like he’s trying to find a story.

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by BCapp on Sep 27, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love hockey

This year is gonna be awesome!

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by Curt S on Sep 27, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I remember Kabby playing in his first game against the wings back in October ’98 (leafs 2-1 win). I believe Harry Neale was debating Bob Cole on how you pronounced Kaberle:

“I think it’s ‘Kay-ber-lee’.”

“Sorry Bob, I think it’s actually ’Kah-ber-lah”

Very smooth skating d-man, I think fans took him for granted for too long.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Sep 27, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently in Czech, the actual way to pronounce it is Kuh-burr-luh

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard Ka-bear-leh as well.

by lucc on Sep 27, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still easier to say than “Karel Pilar”

by Learn2Leaf on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fan 590

used to play a clip of him saying his own name. From what I recall it was

TOmas Ka-BEAR-luh

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Google translate tells me it’s “Tomash Kah-bur-leh”

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s definitely Tomash….that’s what the accent over the s is for. I wish they let NHLers keep their crazy European accents on their lettering…

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the announcers have sometimes tried to pronounce the names correctly? this is slightly shocking…

Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.

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by sleza on Sep 27, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I always laugh in NHL games when the commentator calls JVR “Van Rismick”. EA was just like, fuck it, good enough.

by lucc on Sep 27, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Stay-an

I really wish they would change the commentators for these games, or at least have an couple options perhaps. Would love to play with Bob Cole salling the game

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

at times it makes the names difficult to understand… like all the different and incorrect ways of pronouncing selänne etc.

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И как кровь из вены капает слеза.

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by sleza on Sep 27, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the correct way to pronounce Selanne? I’ve only ever heard one way.

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by Primitive_ on Sep 27, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVgjfoUREk0&feature=related
at the beginning of the vid

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by sleza on Sep 27, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. Thanks for finding that. That guy’s making a lot of unfamiliar sounds really quickly. I had to listen a few times to pick it out.

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by Primitive_ on Sep 27, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best was the Pokerstars commercial about a year or so ago that featured Mats Sundin, where the narrator mispronounced his name. It was like Mats Sun’d-in

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by Shield on Sep 27, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sifting through the dung heap

In the past couple years, I had made a conscious effort to avoid as much of the negative writing as I could. This year, I decided to go through it all. I wonder if that’s a sub-conscious sign that I’m more secure with this year’s group or the longterm direction.

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by Curt S on Sep 27, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Is it acceptable...

to use a lipophobic slur against Kyle Wellwood?

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by not norm ullman on Sep 27, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

more than acceptable

It’s encouraged.

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by Curt S on Sep 27, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the Leafs’ website, there is an absolute gem of an interview with Grabovski everyone needs to watch. It’s impossible not to smile while watching it.

I’m really happy play with Nikolai.

He’s strong. He have strong, like, arms, legs, and heart. Heheh.

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m picturing Kulemin on the cover of a harlequin novel

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by Curt S on Sep 27, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why stop there?

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a hilarious photoshop project.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or the next Canadian Maple sketch

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by Curt S on Sep 27, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Mirtle's article
Of all those listed, only Ben Scrivens, Jake Gardiner, Keith Aulie, Nazem Kadri and Matt Frattin don’t require waivers to play in the AHL this season.

Me thinks this will be the biggest deciding factor on the opening night roster.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

He also lists Phaneuf-Gunnarsson as the top pairing going into the season. I think his article is plagued by too much reason to really predict what the Leafs will do.

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, if Lombardi is back I bet they all go down. Which is kind of sad, as I wanted Kadri to really get his chance. But Lombardi is the better player (in theory), and there are worse things that can happen to a team (such as previous seasons where we didnt have enough talent).

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Chemmys idea of two sheltered scoring lines in the bottom 6. Why do we need Colton Orr at all…?

What did Chemmy say yesterday?

Kadri – Bozak – Armdog
Lombardi – Boyce – Frattin ?

something like that?

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree completely. I don’t see why its imperative our 4th line not be able to score goals.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im past the idea that we need a goon. If the other team wants to throw out a couple unskilled guys to try and run shit on the ice, id be more than happy to throw out a couple guys who can skate like the wind and just torch them. If shit hits the fan… well, our defence is massive. Plus, Mike Brown can skate really well and is tough as nails, hes no Colton Orr.

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Brown isn’t tough as nails, Nails are tough as Mike Brown

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t need Colton Orr. That guy is “useless” personified.

I’d almost rather have Lebda back…. Almost.

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Flagged for making me puke.

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by Shield on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Woah woah woah. It’s infinitely better to have a useless 4th line plug than a useless 3rd pairing guy who actually has to play minutes.

by lucc on Sep 27, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colton orr – 2 goals in 46 games ATOI 5:04 mins
Brett Lebda – 1 goal 3 assists in 41 games ATOI 13:20

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least Colton Orr could entertain you with a bout every once in a while. Lebda’s version of “entertainment” was falling ont he blue line and handing a giant breakaway to the opposing team.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats true, Lebda sucks a lot, but entertainment aside, I don’t see Orr bringing anything to the table other than snail mail speed and pre-planned fights.

Perhaps using Lebda was a poor example.

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was, but that’s okay – I get your point and agree. Wish we’d run a good 4th line instead of goons, but it isn’t going to happen. We just need to make sure we keep the best players in we can – which means Brown and Boyce/Dupuis winner. since Orr is there to stay.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what is so maddening about it. If we are continually trying to “ice the best possible team” why is it that guys like Orr and Komi have guarenteed spots?

Don’t get me wrong Komi isn’t terrible, and could have an amazing bounch back season, but Orr is never getting any better and will never actually contribute anything to the team.

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

same as it ever was

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, I am VERY excited to go to the game tonight. Went to Leafs/Ottawa last year in April when we still had a (small) chance to make the playoffs, the atmosphere was incredible. Easily 60% leafs fans.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

I think there’ll be a decently sized PPP contingent there tonight.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I counted correctly from a previous thread there will be about 3 or 4 of us there.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

What were people’s thoughts here on Gustavsson’s play on Saturday? He played relatively well, but I still thought he looked shaky, almost like the puck was surprising him at times. And like ITBWB says, he found himself fairly far out of position a few times, which concerns me.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought he was very good. That game could easily have been 5 or 6-2 for Buffalo, Jonas kept us in the game imo.

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s generally the consensus. it’s possible he would have looked less out of place if the PK wasn’t so atrocious.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 27, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too many open passing lanes

Heard this like 5 times

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah for sure, the PK was awful. And I agree that Monster helped keep us in the game. But those positional errors really concern me going forward – they’re the kind of mistakes that could cost us games. I think someone said this the other day – he’s played well enough, but it seems overall that he doesn’t look much different in his game than he did last winter/fall.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wont be surprised at all come February and Ben Scrivens has Gustavssons job

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is my suprised face.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time watching him. Every movement he makes seems very exaggerated.

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by Primitive_ on Sep 27, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I noticed too, like he is sliding too far every time he moves laterally. Maybe new pads or something?

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

he probably misses his old glasses…

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This has become my new favourite Simpsons quote.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s nice Honey, I’m going to eat a jar of mayonaise.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of times it looks like Gus commits, and then ‘freezes’ in position or something. It’s like he doesn’t know where the puck is, so instead of scrambling back into position he goes into statue mode. It’s not good.

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by daoust on Sep 27, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a great description of what I seem to be noticing from him.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually, I noticed Reimer do that the other night as well. maybe it’s an Allaire thing…or a coincidence.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Sep 27, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could also be that they are a little rusty.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. I’m not in freakout mode or anything, just concerned.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s coincidence.

I don’t think it has to do with being rusty though – I noticed this with Gus last year as well.

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by daoust on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stays down on his knees

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by MapleLeafMole on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oversliding too much, looked behind the play at times. Made some nice reaction saves, but probably would’ve been burned a couple more times in a regular season game. Using the blocking butterfly a lot more, which should drop the number of pucks that go between his arm and leg pads. I expect he’ll get at least one start against Detroit, and he really needs to look strong.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I went to a game last week and saw him play, noticed much of the same. I think he’s gotten by throughout his career on instinct more than positional play. He’s very physically gifted (tall, long stretchy legs that can cover the bottom of the net, etc) but hasn’t gotten his positioning right. It’s the difference between him and Scrivens. I didn’t see Scrivens do the splits or something and absolutely rob a guy, but he never looked like he needed to do that either.

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of his problems have to do with trying to make him conform to a style of play that he is not comfortable with. He’s not a natural “butterfly” goalie. He relies on reaction and speed.

He could be amazing, but he needs someone to help him hone his strengths rather than force him to play the game in a style he’s not comfortable with. Thats not to say Allaire is no good, he just teaches a different style of play.

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he doesn’t have visual problems. Just blue skying it here, but if he has so many problems tracking the puck, it IS a very small fast moving object that is frequently obscured… I’m sure they’ve checked it already, but if they hadn’t I’d put his eyesight through a full work up (not just “can you read the small letters”) but can you follow small quick flickering objects.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 27, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that could be it, but you would think with the number of trainers and medical staff on the payroll that someone would have picked up on that within the two years he’s been here.

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d think.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 27, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that we’ve added Lombardi, who would you guys rank as our top 5 fastest skaters?

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Lombardi
Kulemin
Kessel
Grabovski

5th not sure – I havent seen enough of Gardiner (if he counts) or Liles? How fast is Kadri?

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Kadri is that fast, I think slower than Brown at least.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah forgot about Brown

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brown is the fastest Leaf not named Kessel, and Lombardi’s speed, while previously elite has yet to be proven to still be there

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he’s probably quite a bit out of shape right now.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of note:

Wilson said yesterday that Lombardi is the fastest skater they have, beating out guys like Kulemin. Brown and Kessel weren’t even in the discussion.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson says a lot of things, I’ll need to see it to be fully convinced, but I don’t doubt Lombo has the ability

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Macarthur isn’t fast?

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by jimmyp22 on Sep 27, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

not top 5 on the Leafs fast

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re scary fast

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how 230 lbs is up there.

Also I think the other would be Brown.

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by BCapp on Sep 27, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dreger just said Leafs believe they have 9 NHL ready defenders. Who is #9, Lashoff? First 8 I’m assuming are Phaneuf, Gunnar, Liles, Schenn, Franson, Komisarek, Aulie, Gardiner.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Does Finger stilll count?

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I assume so – Finger could be NHL ready at $900k/yr

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d assume Lashoff.

Doubt they think Finger could be that guy.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what makes me think both Aulie and Gardiner will be sent down… unless they are ok with losing Lashoff on waivers and Komi can’t move, would make more sense to run with this line-up and re-evaluate after October.

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want Lashoff in my NHL lineup unless its dictated by injuries.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer just to have him on my ipod. That boy can SWOOOOOOOOON

by JohnerstonRex on Sep 27, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gunnar-Bozie rumour

For fun, lets say the Leafs were shopping these two… who/what would you be happy to receive in return? I think it does make sense IF you can get value for them… I really think we would need to get back a legit top 6 (think 55-60+ points) or a very good prospect. Now I don’t see teams giving that up for Boz/Gunnar… makes me think they’re would need to be more players involved.

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Leafs already have 6 “legit” top 6 forwards. What we need now is elite talent, preferably young-ish.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup and Bozak/Gunnar won’t get us that.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may have 6 legit forwards but if they could get someone better than Lupul I would be happy. Just because you have it, doesn’t mean they cant go find someone better

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends on how much of an upgrade we’re talking. Getting a guy who can score 5-10 more points than Lupul? Probably not worth expending assets on unless he’s pretty young. A guy who can score 20 more points than Lupul? Sign me up.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah by legit i meant cup contending talent – like Tim Connolly and Joffrey Lupol are probably not top 6 players on a cup contender. Agree though, would need to be a significant upgrade which is why I think it would have to be a package deal.

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parise watch 2012 begins….

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want a 2012 first and a decent prospect (a la Gardiner)

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is all kinds of talent in this year’s draft. If the Leafs are moving players to open roster spots, then I’d really like an additional 1st rounder.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly, the draft is stacking up to be pretty damned good, lots of very good kids looking to go around mid pack

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that this is a rumour. I’m terrified that the Leafs might do something like this, because from what I’ve heard I get the sense that they undervalue Gunnarsson.

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

And

Since Bozak is coming off a bit of a slump year, his value will be on the low side, as well.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

and gunnar had a very good year with limited mins for most of it, so his value is on the high side

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, so you’re supporting trading Gunnar?

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m supporting loading the fuck up on 1st round draft picks for 2012
there are other players I would rather trade, but anything to make the team better now and in the future

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

See, if Gunnar is going to be a serviceable top-4 someday

Isn’t he exactly the age of player that we want to keep around if this team is going to be competitive in 2-3 years?

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess trading Gunnar for a pick (or picks) seems like a move for a team that is much earlier in the rebuilding process than the Leafs.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, it is, but the only reason this is even fathomable is because of the log jam on the back end.
It is more of a case of “if we can get something really good for him we move him” the Leafs have the players to fill the holes right now, but considering how insane the 2012 draft is stacking up to be, its probably well worth the risk

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we could possibly get say, Phoenix’s first rounder, Then I’d be much more supportive of the idea of moving Gunnar. That said, I think he’s the kind of player who is likely to get better with age, and the kind of player who is not as easily replaced as it might seem.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That seems like a stretch. I guess I don’t expect to get anything ‘elite’ back for Gunnar.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Awaits semantic debate about what ‘elite’ means.)

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thus the gunnar+Bozak package, a midish level 1st and a decent prospect

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it would definitely take more to get that pick, I’d imagine.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

if anything I’d target a team like the rangers or minisota, that think they “can” do well but will probably fall short

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

carolina and calgary really like former maple leafs and would also be in that category I think

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who the hell ever trades their first rounder before the season starts? That’s crazy talk

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Burke did trade two . . .

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the odds of us getting back a first round pick from a team that has a real shot at being a lottery team are slim to none, unless that team is in complete and utter denial about its goaltending situation.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

helloooooooooooo New Jersey

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don’t think NJ is a lottery team.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably a bubble team, if goaltending holds

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not lottery, but they have too much faith in Brodeur. He was an absolutely amazing goalie, but he’s about 40 now and has no real defence in front of him. I wouldn’t bet on them being very good this year. Perhaps a bubble team if everything goes right for them.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

NJ sends us their first and just before the draft they forfeit it.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the old Colorado Avalanche gambit!

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Sep 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naturally, every player has their price. No one is untouchable. If we can get something really fantastic, then OK.

But if there is log jam on D, are we sure that he’s the one we want to move? I kind of have my doubts about Franson’s abilities, to be honest.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with the idea – we all agree Aulie/Gardiner -Kadri/Frattin are close to being ready for the big show. It’s inefficient to have cap friendly NHL-level talent in the minors.

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the whole thing seems like a bad idea.

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

people said the same thing about trading hagman and white

but then they also said the same thing about trading Steen and Coliacovo

the difference is the GM and his staff

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha Bozak and Gunnar for Stempniak? Sign me up…

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is also getting back a potential franchise D-man v. a guy nobody had heard of who was on a short-term hot streak.

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by Shield on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I guess we need to trust Burke.

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by The Bag on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

indeed, especially with how he has killed every single trade since the kessel deal

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak’s only played 1 NHL season. We have no idea whether he’s slumping or if it’s his true talent level.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bozak is gonna bounce back this year. He might not put up a lot of extra points, but I think he’ll do better with the minutes that he’ll get.

Maybe he won’t shoot over 15% like he did last year, but he, Kadri, and Armstrong are going to do some damage.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m definitely looking forward to seeing that line play against some weaker competition, I’m just not sure we know what Bozak’s real talent level is. He was basically a rookie last year.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was absolute money on the PK last year

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

that shortie down 5 on 3 was a beauty

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about that, but I’d say it was a good deal better than what we witnessed last year.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt you really hope they wouldn’t do anything drastic… gotta remember, BB has done a pretty good job evaluating talent so far so if he does make a deal, we’d have to assume he’s considered everything we’ve already brought up. Remember Ian White.

by Dr_Furious on Sep 27, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I do.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You seem to remember him backwards, though.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phats wour yoint.

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by Wan Ihite on Sep 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it all depends on the return. If it’s for a big, young scoring forward, then I’m in, absolutely.

I just don’t think those two get it done. Also the math doesnt add up. They make a bit over $3M combined. And $3M scoring forwards don’t grow on trees, so why are they available?

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have 2 million in cap room, so if they were gone that would make about 5 million.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was hoping for Spezza earlier in the summer, but the Connolly signing (which I’m fine with, I suppose, because of the short term) dashed those hopes.

I have a hard time imagining us bringing in an impact player this late in training camp, but stranger things have happened.

I like Bozak and Gunnarsson and neither one has hit their ceiling yet. But if it’s part of a package for a big fish, I’d do it.

I just hope it’s not some sideways move where we’re moving two young players with potential for some truculent plug that Burke has a boner for

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the chance of spezza coming to the leafs is pretty much zero. People very rarely trade that kind of player within their own division.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except when we trade with Boston…

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by article1 on Sep 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a bit of a different scenario though. My memory says that Nashville were offerring Boston a better deal than we were, but both teams were afraid Phil wouldn’t sign in Nashville and we’d just offer-sheet him anyway.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

55-60+ point is a top 3 not a top 6 forward

For wingers at least, may include number 2 C’s also

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by BCapp on Sep 27, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Sestito hit on Deveaux was brutal

Six games? Eight? Ten? I’m curious to see how Shanny calls this one.

by RJinSoCal on Sep 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

he got 8 i think

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t the hearing tomorrow?

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

/shrug

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some MSM people are saying he’ll get less games than Shelley, similar hits but Sestito does not have prior NHL suspensions.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think that was a much worse hit (he looked like he was lining him up from the blue line in) but he does have a lack of suspension history.

You can charitably claim Shelley was an instant, spur of the moment decision to “finish his check”. I think that’s BS, but you could argue that 2 seconds before he did it, he had no idea what the play was going to be.

Sestito just rammed a guy into the boards, hoping for a thunderous hit to earn an NHL roster spot. Completely premeditated. Period.

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, i also think the Sestito hit was worse.

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re think Wiz

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you’re right, i do have to pee

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

bobby mac just debunked the site tagline

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

MacKenzie'd
Many asking about Komisarek’s contract status: He has No Move Clause and cannot be put on waivers or assigned anywhere he doesn’t want to go

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ll have to start calling him Buzzkill Bob

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not like it really mattered.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

/Looks at the top of the page

Don’t know why we got so excited anyway.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously bob? right after crushing our dreams?
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

So all stuff we already knew until SHoalts came and made everyone confused

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

it did seem odd that 3 years later we find out he really didnt have a NMC, makes me wonder where the hell Shoalts got his info from. Probably HFboards

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is also 3 years late but doesn’t Burke also say he doesn’t give out NT clauses? Did he get around that by the 10 team thing?

by scott tubbesing on Sep 27, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Giguere is the only full NTC he’s given out, and that was on account of health issues Giguere’s son had.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares

Clause or not, he makes $4.5 million and is terrible. He’s untradeable. Anyone who needs to hit the floor (is there anybody left?) could just sign a lousy UFA to a one-year deal, and not have to give up an asset for it. Move along, people.

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lebda was terrible. Komisarek is just massively overpaid for what he does.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lebda deal was us taking on salary. Komi would be a salary dump, and we’d either have to send assets along with him or take back an equally awful salary.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke should have the predators also include the rights for radulov.
Still young though and knows if he will ever come back to the NHL

by jeffgm on Sep 27, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would that have required reserving an SPC for Radulov?

by Peter Lynn on Sep 27, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we know tonight’s roster by any chance?

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I promised my wife she’d get to see Luke Schenn, her favourite player.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loops – Kadri – Kessel
MGK
Frattin – Boyce – Armstrong
Rosehill-Dupuis-Crabb/Orr

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reimer starts, Scrivens backs up.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kadri at C eh? Should be interesting.

by Self Destructive Zones on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Kadri’s being given an audition on the top line while Connolly is out, that’s a pretty good hint they’re seriously considering him.

I’m glad. He’s been a very pleasant surprise in camp. I hope he makes it on the 3 line with Armstrong and Bozak, but is given chances on the PP

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by pevans on Sep 27, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

any idea why Connolly is out? Its only preseason and I hate him already. Another personal day?

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should the 2nd line be playing together to see if they have any chemistry? Finding it hard to love Connolly

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Sep 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

HennyTweets Paul Hendrick
Wilson: tim(connolly) is a little banged up after crashing into boards and will get the night off.

Here we go with the injuries…

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by Matt_Roberts on Sep 27, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Saga of Spodeybones 2.0 begins…

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

3.0…

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s being given an audition so much as Connolly was taken out at the last second and the Leafs don’t have anyone else who can play centre.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, Ottawa’s defence is awful, even if they ice their full D corps, so I think he’ll do fine.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chances are he find himself on the trade block in …i wonder which tradeable team are in his NTC clause

by jeffgm on Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he tweet earlier that it would be komi, lashoff, and gardiner sitting out tonight?

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by Shield on Sep 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Henny.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he tweeted that later, but yeah, not so consistent,

by TheCeej on Sep 27, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence

Possible. Plus it’s Ron Wilson, anything’s possible!

by GettinGiggy on Sep 27, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Chemmy on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Final plans for London Meet up tonight (for preseason game)

Hey everyone, we will meet at Wicks at 7:15. I’ll be there in my Leafs jersey. I have brown hair and a goatee. If you want to reach me you can email me at bcapp.ppp@gmail.com Hope to see you there.

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by BCapp on Sep 27, 2011 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ensure that PFACNF gets reminded constantly how his team will be garbage because he skipped our draft.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or was it Nikota? Remind both

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nikota. It is Nikota. My team will be garbage because I’m terrible at making decisions.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You succccccccccccccccccck

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you should take Sid first overall bud

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, how dumb would you feel if he comes back and puts up 112 points. You’d feel real dumb.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys think Ovie will slip to round 3?

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHA I dont think he slips to 3rd overall

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what you’re planning, but secretly, I’m terrified of it.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t be

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Don’t be afraid. In fact, pay no attention to my team at all…

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try to ignore you att all times

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figure you’re planning to put together the fantasy equivalent of the Leafs since you’ve traded back so many times to miss out on all the elite guys.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more Bill Belichick/Patriots, but I guess that works too.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I grabbed Ovie 1st overall in my pool!

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by Chris Stoikoff on Sep 27, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fucked no matter where I go here.

I think I’ve settled on a strategy but a lot of things can go wrong waiting until 32.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised no one wanted to trade up.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bower Power made me an offer, and 67 Sound inquired.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

67 Sound’s at #3, he can clean up with whatever’s left and be happy about it.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have preferred an auction draft

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Skinny around?

Can we make trades during the draft? Cause that would kinda be aces.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean picks? I doubt it. Usually that stuff is preloaded into the applet.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be kind of amazing if we could.

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would, but the time limit for picks would need to be 3 or 4 minutes.

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by birky on Sep 27, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly, I don’t know. Nothing on the site says you can, so I’ll assume you can’t.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to do another one on a Friday/ weekend sometime. Working the evening shift is going to suck during hockey season. Kinda hope I get laid off soon…

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by Redonred on Sep 27, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Winks?

I’ll be there.

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by BCapp on Sep 27, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by JP Nikota on Sep 27, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sens lineup for the game tonight:
http://www.silversevensens.com/2011/9/27/2452680/silver-nuggets-senators-cut-roster-lehner-starts-tonight-against

I’m asking because I really don’t know:

Is that pretty close to what the actual Senators’ group of forwards is going to look like this season? They seem to only be missing Alfredsson and Da Costa.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Missing Alfredsson, Michalek, Da Costa, Winchester, and Konopka. Missing Kuba and Carkner on D. Missing Anderson in net.

So it’s pretty far from their forward group for the regular season, but probably not a huge downgrade in talent.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

no anderson in net either.

by jeffgm on Sep 27, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Missing Anderson in net.

Yeah, and it’s hot out, too.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

but is water wet? is the sky blue? These are pertinent questions we need answered.

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by thenumber14 on Sep 27, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to David Alter (The guy who replaced Berger)
Details on Komisarek’s movability- he has a no move with a 12 team notrade. So he can be traded to 18 teams, but he can’t be loaned. #leafs

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

We can loan players? How does that work?

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He means to the AHL. Technically those players are on loan

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by clrkaitken on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks you

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by leafer1984 on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is getting a bit confusing. I keep hearing different things about his contract.

by Goosemonster on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

MacKenzie says it’s 10, which is what we’ve believed all along.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its possible that Komisarek had more than the minimum number of teams on his trade list.

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by Ubiquitous on Sep 27, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That makes sense. It’s not like Burke would be like “no no, we said only 10 teams we will honour it.”

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by T is for Truculence on Sep 27, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

MacKenzie said 10+

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by AM18 on Sep 27, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I copied you. We should really time these things better so we’re not competing for attention.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do the Staal parents… Well 3/4 aint bad

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by happiergilmore on Sep 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Doughty negotiations
Leiweke (Team president) told The Times on Monday that the Kings are not trying to be cheap with Doughty and, in fact, plan to spend up to the salary cap of $64.3 million.

So they are going to offer Doughty $9.3M then? He knows damn well that they won’t spend to the cap.

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

This whole thing does not bode well for them.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Sep 27, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Flyers trade Richards there to screw with their cap and then swoop in and take Doughty?

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by happiergilmore on Sep 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

with the 175K in cap space they have?

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t being serious… I thought they had even less than that anyways

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by happiergilmore on Sep 27, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

JOKES MUST HAVE LOGICAL BASIS!

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well FLYERROB is a pretty big joke, so I don’t know about that

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by happiergilmore on Sep 27, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

dying

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by JaredFromLondon on Sep 27, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy christ. I was reading this and I thought it was him.

This is too much, I just pee’d a bit

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by happiergilmore on Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit Shield this is spot on. Bra-fucking-vo

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by AM18 on Sep 27, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn’t link the article so I don’t know the full context, but I think those are two seperate remarks:

1. The Kings are planning to spend up to the cap; they are not a cheap team.
2. As a team that plans to spend right up to the cap, the Kings are not low-balling Doughty because they don’t want to spend money.

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by Draglikepull on Sep 27, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was linked on PD

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by SkinnyFish on Sep 27, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Siegel with a good piece on Scrivens and his prior work with Allaire.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

“Right now, we feel we’ve got five guys who at a certain point can help us, which is way better than two years ago,” said Allaire.

If this was post-draft: Reimer, Scrivens, Rynnas, Owuya, and Sparks.

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by Bower Power on Sep 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty interested to see how Lupul – Kadri – Kessel work out. Don’t know about everyone else

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