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Gustavsson's Defenders Don't All Play For The Leafs

Recently, there is plenty of talk in support of our dear friend Jonas Gustavsson. Although I am among the greatest skeptics of The Monster's ability to remain a decent option for the Leafs in goal, numbers don't lie:

Even in the organization, few saw this coming, but Gustavsson has since posted a .922 save percentage and won eight of his past 10 starts, taking over the No. 1 role heading into Toronto’s meeting with the Buffalo Sabres on Tuesday.

Head on over to the Globe and Mail, where James Mirtle has the full story.

Plenty of links today. Hope you enjoy.

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Leafs Links:

Why not Gustavsson?
Well, I've already explained why I think not. Cam Charron has his say at The Leafs Nation.

At the mid-way point, here’s what we know—and don’t know—about the Leafs
From Michael Langlois at Vintage Leaf Memories.

Nation Radio
I'm back on this week on Section 2 chatting about the Leafs' D, although technical difficulties cut the interview short. From The Leafs Nation.

Springing Malik: The Pain Game 2011/12 - Part Three
I love these charts. This fine gentleman puts together charts that show man games lost to injury, sorted by cap hit. As of the end of December the Leafs have lost the 3rd most cap hit time due to injury.

Marlies Hot & Cold: January 2nd-8th
The latest from the farm via Kyle Cicerella.

Leafs Week In Preview
From Andrew Bates at the Silver Fox.

Other Hackey Links:

Devils’ social hub starts to pay off
This is an interesting little tidbit from Fred Dreier at Sports Business Journal. Glove tap to Puck the Media for this one.

Marchand diary: On Canucks, critics
Brad Marchand has been dictating his thoughts to ESPN. Oh boy.

Ducks’ Jacques suspended three games for elbowing Jackets' Umberger
From the CP at the Globe.

NHL suspends Bruins’ Marchand five games for 'clipping' Salo
Most of you probably saw this already. Even if you didn't, you probably heard the weeping coming from Boston. From the CP at the Globe.

Here come the Los Angeles Kings
By Cam Charron at Backhand Shelf.

It finally happened: Columbus fired Scott Arniel
Just in case some of you folk haven't seen this yet. From JB at BS.

Hockey and Homework
An interview with Zach, a gay hockey player, over at Puck Buddies.

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I love reading the PPP Late night comments the next day. Very good way to start the morning.

i also love how crazy everyone gets when someone says they haven’t seen Blazing Saddles.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 7:06 AM EST reply actions  

I haven’t seen Blazing Saddles.

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by article1 on Jan 10, 2012 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

don’t start that again.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

go here for outrage

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

We don’t take kindly to your kind around here.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We don’t take kindly to people who don’t take kindly around here.

by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 10, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Now, calm down, Skeeter. They ain’t hurtin’ nobody.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

me either

I will fix that soon

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

The town saloon was always lively
But never nasty or obscene
Behind the bar stood Abel Johnson
He always kept things nice and clean

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I was on TV last night

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

No it wasn’t.

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

it was on AMC pretty sure

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re forgetting the part where I don’t live in North America.

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by article1 on Jan 10, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re back?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

yah I’m back working again, so I need things to kill time during the day lol.

Being in school last semester and not being chained to a computer I rarely stayed on PPP past reading FTB for the links. Commenting takes too much effort.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i’m rarely in the GDTs for that reason…will probably be more now that my wife is back to work & on closing shifts.

isn't that something to look forward to?

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m rarely on GDTs because I don’t have cable so I watch games on my computer. Hence the desire to keep it full screen and not have a 2nd window open.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i just listen on the radio. I need to be doing multiple things at once.

Damn TV ruining my attention sp-

Hey, a gum wrapper!

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I do that sometimes, but usually I am too lazy to get out of bed (where I usually chill with my laptop) and go hook it up to my TV with the VGA cable…

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Get a longer cable.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

TV isn’t in my bedroom… its out in the main room so we can chill on the couches and play xbox/N64 with multiple people. I have a 30 foot cable so its not a problem

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

My most played as WWF No Mercy, then Golden Eye, and the original Mario Party.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

What? The N64 was around while I was a wrestling fan

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

NO particular order

No MErcy, Mario Kart, Golden Eye, Mario Party 2

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ugh, No mercy?!?!?

The following would have been acceptable:
Golden Eye
Mario Kart

and maybe:
Crusin’ USA

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I tried to teach my son how to play Mario Kart 64.

He kept trying to turn the controller to make his car go.

/kidstoday

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Wayne Gretzky’s Hockey and Super Smash Bros?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow I forgot Ocarina of Time.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Greatest Zelda game.

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i have it, never played it much though.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

HOW THE HELL DID I FORGET OCARINA

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m ashamed of all of you.

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m ashamed with myself.
I feel shame

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I went looking for the SNES Zelda game, and damn people want a lot of money for it.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

1 guy want $90. But that was 8 years ago or so, demand may have dropped off

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Get an emulator and dl the rom, or if you have a wii you can download it for like 4.99

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i did that, and have an emulator on my phone

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

but i like having the cartridge as well.

will just keep checking yard sales.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The SNES zelda game on wii cost $8! I bought it lol

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 10, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I remembered :)

I beat it start to finish this xmas break

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I still play that game on the wii. new controller makes it so awkward to play.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I never finished it. Maybe one of these days I’ll fire up the ol’ N64 one more time

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked Majora’s Mask better.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ugh, that’s awful

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re the first person I have ever known to say that

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

that game made me want to jump out a window. But to be fair I was playing it while recovering from getting my wisdom teeth out

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I have known one other.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

THERE CAN BE ONLY 1!!!!

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you are an awful human being

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I loved NO Mercy. I was playing it like a year ago, still love it.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

me too! i finally got my video game crate out of the basement and filled out entertainment centre with them.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Revenge was fuckin awesome too. Summer of ‘99 was kickass. Everyday at my friend’s house playing Revenge or Blitz or Goldeneye or Mario kart

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I can destroy noobs in Mario Kart. Me and my roomates used to play it several times daily, and would do all 16 tracks each time. Speed boosts and short cuts FTW.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Fave course? Mine is Wario Stadium

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

you time out your lightning bolt to shrink everyone at the jump and they fall onto the course below. Awesome

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing more infuriating than getting hit by that.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

That, and getting stuff like banana trails and fake item boxes, and dropping them right at the top of that jump, and watching all the suckers hit them and fall down. Fabulous.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know the shortcut?

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen it done, but could never do it myself.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d spend half the bloody first lap trying to do it. Always paid off once I managed.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 10, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s not a shortcut its a cheat. A short cut is, for example, going between the giant mushroom and the wall in Mario Raceway instead of following the track – you cut off a half second, can grab a bunch of boxes and take the lead. Wario Stadium’s “shortcut” is going backwards, making a jump and cheating. We banned such practices in our races.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

how do you feel about the rainbow road shortcut?

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not familiar with one. If it involves going backwards, or jumping across courses in a way that does not follow its original intent, we never allowed it. Ours was a straight race, following the course.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I am okay with cheats but not with taking advantage of glitches.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

speakign fo video game short cuts. anyone heard of the Condor cluster?

US Military made a supercomputer out of a helluva lot of PS3’s

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Me thinks somebody was reading Cracked on the weekend? ;)

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by Ghostsof on Jan 10, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yup.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC it involved falling off the edge at a certain point and landing on the track again which is further along

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah yes, it happened by accident a few times, so we allowed it, but otherwise no one purposely took advantage of it.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The one I know of is where you jump off the left side at the start of the track, before you go down the huge hill. If you time it right, you land further down the track, at the spot where the big Boo is located.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

My brother used to just go backwards on purpose to screw people over.

He successfully pulled this off in the NASCAR simulators at Daytona Beach. Crashed into my other brother as they came around the last turn of the race and the simulators were shaking like an earthquake took place.

Cynically Sarcastic
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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

if you jump off the left side at the start of the track, and aim properly, you can jump to the track below and cut off 1/4 of the course., no backwards involved, but you definately jump the track.

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I mentioned below, if my friends and I agree to it beforehand we’d do it, but if not we wouldn’t. That one’s tough, but the Wario Stadium cheats are a bit harder I think.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I know of two _. Although, we always determined before the race started whether or not we’d use them. If it was a serious race, we’d do it properly, but if we were just messing around then we’d cheat our way to victory

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Bowser’s Castle was a big challenge, because even with the lead, there were plenty of places to screw up (sharp turn to the bridge was one), that was always a good one. Mario Raceway was a great short one too (I think thats the name), lots of shortcuts that have big pay-off if you get them done right. Need the speed boosts badly there to win.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

going farther out, my favourite track on Double Dash was the carnival track. small circle, 9 laps of insanity

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Baby Park. One of the best tracks ever.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Wario Stadium is awesome. I also love Choco Mountain, just for the absolutely hilarious music

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I would add

Perfect Dark to this list as well

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I actually HATED Perfect Dark

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved it. The addition of bots was huge!

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I never liked it either….you can get it on xbox live now, so it may be worth another look.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the correct answer… I might personally add star fox 64

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by BetterThanBester on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Do a barrel roll!

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Golden Eye, Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Harvest Moon 64, Super Smash Bros

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

It was so “avante garde” to put a “64” behind everything. Automatically made it cooler.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

64 bits bitches!

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i remember the Crusin’ USA arcade machines identified it as it’s codename ultra 64

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That was supposed to be the name orignally, no? Or am I remembering it all wrong?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

it was the code name i believe. Like the Dreamcast was Katana, Wii was Revolution,

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Gamecube was Dolphin.

Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.

by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Smash Bros, Golden Eye, Mario Kart, Zelda, No Mercy are my top 5

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Wave Race kicked ass!

Bam Bam.- digga digga damm

by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit I haven’t heard that name in 10 years, such great memories

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by PKSube on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

going off the board with Banjo Kazooie. i 100%’d the shit

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Also 1080 snowboarding

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm to old for this game

so I’m going old-school with NES games:

Mario 3
Dr. Mario
Battletoads
Double Dragon II
Super-spike Volley Ball (4-player mode)

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in time.

/dropsmic

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

no dude, teenage mutant ninja turtles 2: the arcade game

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

those games were such a disappointment to me.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

TMNT 2 was OK I guess. I dunno. I just loved the turtles as a kid. the games didn’t live up to my expectations somehow.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough. I couldn’t have played that game enough back in the day.

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG YES

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Super Spike VBall was awesome. Ever play Super Dodge Ball? Amazing

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

no, never played that.

i’m glad someone appreciates SSVB. the music alone is worth the cost of admission.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Play here

One of my fave NES games ever

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

i have a great ROM emulator on my Android as well.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok I need the name of that emulator… I just got an android

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

me too, i got the emulators, but need the SD card to store the games, since I’ve read you can’t get the roms onto the phone itself

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Has to be Contra

Ghost and Goblins also gets a nod for being the most frustrating game ever, I think it was rated the hardest video game ever by one of those game review shows.

Bam Bam.- digga digga damm

by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

And Super Dodge Ball was a blast

Bam Bam.- digga digga damm

by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

R Type…

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by article1 on Jan 10, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Contra without the konami code may be just as frustrating. They made games pretty damn tough in the nes and snes days

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by BetterThanBester on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I think the fact that with most games you could save made it hard.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

errr couldn’t

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s true. Most games had the Mario way of basically you either go back to the start of the level or some “checkpoint” at halfway through a level. That being said, Donkey Kong games were pretty easy and they did that.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

True. If you wanted to beat TMNT:The Arcade Game (or 75% of any other NES title), you needed to have 2-3 hours to spare and hope you didn’t run out of lives in one of the million death traps along the way. Also, it’s infuriating when you can’t beat stage 6, but you can’t get to that stage without going through 1-5 first, sometimes losing lots of health and lives along the way. There’s no way to practice a tough spot.

The flip side is that you got really good at the first few levels through sheer repetition, until you could finally get completely through without a scratch. That felt good.

by MrSmithy on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That is why I like playing SNES and NES games on the computer. I can save it whereever I want.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

And most emulators have a “frame skip” button that allows you to do things like speed up the random battles in old RPGs. Final Fantasy V is so much better when you can just auto-level through the grind-y portions.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the same thing applies for Pokémon, which can be a downright pain without a frame rate increase.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

you needed to have 2-3 hours to spare

or…

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, so it felt like 2-3 hours.

by MrSmithy on Jan 10, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, has anyone ever beat a Mega Man game?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i could beat about half of the NES ones.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I played a lot of video games as a could and I always found those to be the hardest

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I also beat SMB 1 when i was in second grade, only once though. I tried to do it again and never succeeded.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I've beaten SMB 1 a few times

That god damn mother fucking hammer bro at the end of 8-4… Jesus.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I beat the Megaman x’s (often got stuck on the final bosses). Actual Mega Man’s? Hell no.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I beat Mega Man 2, and I was so good at Mega Man 3 that I could go through most stages and even some boss fights without getting hit. Sadly, my skills have waned over time.

by MrSmithy on Jan 10, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I got to the very end of Mega Man X and I just. Couldn’t. Beat. Fucking. Sigma.

Seriously, that motherfucker is a tough… motherfucker.

by samspade on Jan 10, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

Now that I think about it, I may have just gotten to Sigma in every game and never actually defeated him. I did it on an emulator too.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

F-zero

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I d/l the rom for F-Zero 2, that was a great game

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

the music was also awesome

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yes.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked Contra and Blades of Steel a lot.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Blades of Steel was amazing, precurser to all the “NHL” games. Except for that the announcer could only say one phrase; “he gets the pass” or something like that.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

“gets the pass, gets the pass, gets- gets- gets the pass”

He could also say “fight”. And the refs whistle sounded like a bird or something.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I forgot all about this game. I played it alot, as well as “Bases Loaded” which is one of my favourite baseball games ever

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Ken Griffey Jr. Major League Baseball has to be the best baseball game of all time.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

also amazing. I had world series baseball on the sega game gear. That game was great, because it had the championship blue jays roster in it. You could always win games with that team.

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Base Wars and Baseball Stars disagree

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I obsessed over bases loaded and it’s create a team. always wanted that feature, took EA long enough to add that in.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

When I was 7, my friend and I would play Blades of Steel non stop. The sound bites in that game were fantastic

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Leaf jerseys were green.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

There were only like 9 teams right?
You could be:
Toronto
Edmonton
Montreal
Calgary
Vancouver
Minnesota
Detroit
Chicago
NY (rangers not the Islanders, as if that needed clarification)

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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah and they didn’t have a licence or anything so it would just say “Toronto” or “New York” and no team name, and the colours were all off a bit for the different teams.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I have it on my wii, though I haven’t played in a few years.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

According to Wikipedia it was 8 teams.

Toronto, Van, Montreal, Edmonton from Canada

NY, Chicago, LA, Minny from US

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I could swear Detroit was there.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently the jerseys were inspired by NHL, NFL and CFL teams from each city. So they made the Toronto kind of blue and greenish-blue for the argos.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I started with Atari 2600 only had one games, space invaders. Played that for a 6 months before my brother got a second game for his birthday.

best game was frostbite

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i vaguely remember playing some atari as a kid. there was a smurfs game i believe.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

frostbite was awesome. i still have my wood paneled 2600 set up

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

wait no i don’t, the cable to the TV ripped out of it. anyone have any experience fixing ataris?

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

River Raid, Kangaroo, Q-Bert and Dig Dug were my favorite’s.

by Rythmn Man on Jan 10, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Epic list

Mario 3 has to be one of the all time greatest games

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I never had Mario 3 itself, but Super Mario All Stars for snes was an epic compilation as you could play Mario, Mario 2, and Mario 3.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved AllStars for SNES

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

the battery is dead in my copy of Super Mario World so i can’t save. is it easy to change those?

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I am really pissed as I had it, it came bundled with my SNES. I brought the SNES to my grandmas to play when there after I got 64. My cousin brought a bunch of his games too so we had a lot, but later when we got a bit older we both brought our games and I brought my system home. My cousin took Allstars as his own and all his stuff got sold at a garage sale.

My grandparents also sold my NES at a garage sale after it had been at their place for a few years.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

BATTLETOADS!

Also I am pretty sure Dr. Mario was SNES.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Dr Mario was awesome.

by TheCeej on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

no Dr Mario was NES.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i got with my NES style gameboy advance.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay. My bad.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Battletoads was one of the best 8-bit games IMO.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

NHL 99
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by birky on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Why 99 in particular? 97 was the last one I owned for a console until 2004, I had 98-03 for PC.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

99 was the best one from that era, and frankly, one of the best N64 games ever made.

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by birky on Jan 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Hm, guess it kind of sucks I didn’t have it for 64, but I do remember it being good for PC as well. I had some kick ass controllers for my computer which were basically PS controllers. 99 was the one with Lindros right? With Forsberg 98 and Pronger 2000?

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

When a player in the NHL goes hard ot the net and just jams it in, I still say “BBBBBBBBB” (as in the button) as thats a good way to score in NHL 99. We played that a lot too, second most after Mario Kart (this was in the mid-2000s too)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember in NHL 2001 for PC, there was a glitch where you would skate behind your own net and then “dump the puck”, and the puck would go over everyone’s head, including the goalie’s, and into the opposing net.

I used to play Canada against some awful country like Latvia or something, and then just do that so Canada would win like 99-0.

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to try to beat the game playing with awful teams like Norway, who didn’t even have a complete roster, so the disclaimer in the game was that their players had to be made up. Beating the game with Canada was just too wasy.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

My nephew, who’d thought he was a real hotshot, permanently retired from playing that game after I beat him playing as Team Japan against his Team Canada.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Super Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Mario Kart
Goldeneye
Mario Party 2

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Crap I forgot Super Smash Bros

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by MLS on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Ocarina of Time, Wave Race 64, WCW vs nWo Revenge, Mario 64 and, uh . . . that’s basically it.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and Goldeneye.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

My list?

Goldeneye, Super Smash, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time, Wayne Gretzky hockey.

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Goldeneye
Mario Tennis
Donkey Kong 64
Mario 64

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck I forgot mario tennis.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Mario Tennis was awesome. Always used the same character (as in Mario Kart): Peach. Totally underrated, and I don’t care who makes fun of me for it.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Koopa for singles.
DK for doubles. I just lived in front of the net and smashed the shit out of anything that came near me.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Same, and Mario Golf. I dunno why but those two games were so awesome.

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Mario Golf was awesome.
PLaying as Wario and doing the taunt..
ONE TWO THREE FORE!!!

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I also loved Mario Golf until my brother lost it at a friend’s house.

14 years later we still heckle him about that.

We played the shit out of Mario Tennis in high school though.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Put a hole in your wall and set up an elaborate set of mirrors to watch the tv from bed.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

No Ice Hockey or RBI baseball? what the fuck you all

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Fat medium mediun skinny

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two medium, two skinny

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You were?

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by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I have trouble spelling, especially those tricky words with two letters

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Those kill mi

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by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Chemmy’s comment last night was right on – don’t see it censored first. The only reason AMC plays Blazing Saddles on TV is so that everyone can remember how great it is when it’s uncensored.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

neither have I, it’s on my list, it’s just that I don’ really watch that many movies.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t watch movies so I’m exempt.

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No one is exempt from Blazing Saddles

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

When I was eight, my father made me watch it. Doing his duty.

I haven’t seen it since, so I’m due for a refresher.

by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Jan 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

every couple months I’m going through my library of movies (Hundreds) and see it and decide its time for a refresher..

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

History of the World Part One

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

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Also fantastic and a must see

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

FLYRES!!!1

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by not norm ullman on Jan 10, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The french hating comments are getting borderline.

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I for one would like to say I had words put into my mouth.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t see any “hating” going on. Did I miss something? Voicing your perception of what the objectives are of a bill (whether correct or not) does not equal dicrimination against those who passed or supported the bill.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

the laughing and merriment at people who are genuinely upset because they feel their language and culture is being threatened could be classified as hating.

But hey, just forget what I said. I’m sure it’s not very important.

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I see. From BCapps response, I thought you were refering to his comment on the intentions of bill 101.

Mind you, this happens all the time with late night shows and people such as Colbert; I don’t see much outrage there.

However, I did find the interaction with the older gentleman in that video distasteful.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the video was actually pretty dumb. He was just ripping on people who could barely speak french. The only parts that made me laugh were the guy saying drinking molsons was pissing on Quebec and the guy in a Nordiques jersey at a Habs rally…

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

it wasn’t a habs rally, it was a language rally. I would believe that you could wear whatever jersey you want at a rally that is about hockey and language.

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. As I said I thought the video was actually pretty dumb.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really have any sympathy because the french language and Quebecois culture is not threatened. Not by Randy Cunneyworth, and certainly not on a day-to-day basis in Montreal. If they feel that it is, fair enough, and they can march and protest, that’s their right, but they are wrong if they think there is a factual basis for concern. At the very least, they are going about “saving” their language the wrong way entirely. Passing laws to force the language on people (immigrants, mostly) is not a way to get people to use it. Make the language something people want to use, not have to use.

The whole thing stems not from a real threat to language and culture, but to a cultural insecurity that, frankly, comes from an inability to understand the role of culture at all (or an unwillingness to do the right thing), at least on the part of the politicians who craft these laws. Again, sure, I can understand why some guy from anytown, Quebec thinks this is an issue, but that’s only because the politicians have made it one, and have not given the population of the province any opportunity (unless they live in multicultural Montreal) to see otherwise. It’s telling that the seperatist party came out and said that multiculturalism has no place in Quebec.

So, like I said, no sympathy. And I don’t like your hockey team either, protesters.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

An example of how bureaucracy enables the idea that the quebecois culture is oppressed: I just started a track club. We want to call it Montreal Endurance. We picked that name because it works in both french and English. We submitted it to the Office of the French Language (which vets all organization names to make sure they are french enough) and we were rejected because we did not put an accent on the E in Montreal. So our president called them up and said, no problem, put in the accent. They said, no sorry, you have to resubmit your request. That kind of idiocy has nothing to do with language. But they build it up as necessary to “defend” the language. And that makes people feel hateful towards that language (and therefore culture). So they are causing many of the problems themselves.

And the Habs suck. But that’s not really related.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

See I think that is ridiculous that you have to put the E on it. Or frankly that there is an office you have to submit things to, to be “french enough”. I do find that discriminatory.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

It is absolutely stupid and discriminatory. The only thing that saves it from not being legally discrimination is that the Quebec government used the notwithstanding clause to by-pass the constitution to allow the law to be passed.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m aware.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Careful, you might be called a “thin-lipped, poutine-eating, whatever” again!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t agree with the whole Cunneyworth kerfuffle, but I think Anglos consistently understate the significant challenges facing the french language in Canada, and look at the issue as if its no big deal – because we’re the majority, US speaks our language, etc. The Francophones in Canada, throughout most of our history, were repressed, controlled through various means (Anglo elites in control of Quebec business, etc.), discriminated against and ignored (Louis Riel, etc.). I also hear (not from you!) Anglos say things like “why doesn’t Quebec just leave Canada”,, Canada would be better without Quebec, etc. which is absolute nonsense that feeds right into the extreme Quebecois nationalist rhetoric – Canada is a MUCH better country BECAUSE of Quebec.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

why doesn’t Quebec just leave Canada

However, this one goes both ways, don’t forget, 41% of francophones felt this way. That’s too many to call it a “few dumb people”.

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Sorry, that should be 49% not 41.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

the vote wasn’t just francophones, and it only account of those who were of legal age and actually voted and had the ballot count.

plus it was 16 years ago.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So, it was as legitimate as any other election, no?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

well, for one thing they don’t view it as discrimination, but cultural protections. Given their hundreds of years of repression under the British and early Canadian governments, it’s easy to understand why. In addition, the french in general (goes for France too) view cultural safeguards as important, sometimes more than the individua’s rights. We have stronger ties ideologically as a state to Britain and the private property, negative rights views (Locke, etc.)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

See I don’t care what they consider it. Telling people what school to send your kids too, or making stores take down their signs because of the language they are in is discriminating.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The French were repressed because the British conquered them. They won the war. The only reason I can think of why the British didn’t just assimilate the French afterward was because they were worried that forcing the French to give up their culture and language would lead to insurrection and further violence. It’s a surprising attitude considering that most countries were pretty ruthless at the time. Basically it would’ve made more sense pragmatically for the country to either have on uniform language, or if Canada was going to go bilingual, go all the way. Don’t make it just Quebec (and New Brunswick, I guess).

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Put another way, I’ve talked to people from other countries who have asked me why, if Canada is supposedly a bilingual country, why I don’t speak French too. I’ve never been able to give a satisfactory answer other than “because I don’t live in Quebec” which is inevitably followed up by, “How come people only speak French in Quebec?” Of course, then I point out New Brunswick, which doesn’t really help either.

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Manitoba was French, until Riel was killed and the government flooded it with English settlers, attempting to destroy Métis culture. Justifying the Britishs’ policies by saying “well, others were doing worse at the time” is not a proper argument in any sense. The French government lost in the 1600s – by the 1800s these people were certainly what we would understand to be Canadians (officially British subjects, but within Canada)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Again anyone who had a proper educaiton on Canadian history (less than I can proudly state) would not argue with this.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of, I learned in school exactly what t for truculence stated – that the British were better than most and allowed the french to keep their language and culture. It’s not really that true – if you wanted to be a businessman or be in politics, you had to be bilingual if you were French. Anglos were almost never bilingual. So, you have what is “officially” linguistic protection but what was in fact discrimination in most forms of public life. Not to mention most business were run and controlled for a good while.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

proper educaiton on Canadian history

I agree. I spoke to some people in other schools who never even learned about Riel! In public schools. WTF?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember learning about a lot of these issues in high school, although not actually being French Canadian I don’t know that I’ll ever be able to speak past whatever biases I have growing up in Ontario.

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what it is like in NB.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not french canadian at all, but being relatively bilingual has helped me understand this much better, as working with many many Quebecois has.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

proper educaiton on Canadian history

My school board sucked for Canadian history

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

My school board sucked for Canadian history

I think that stands for most school boards.

I had a course in high school called Canada in a North American Perspective. A part of the course was centred on how bad our school system does teaching Canadian history.

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ha. i had a few good courses in high school, but everything before grade 9 was all voyageurs, nothing post cabot/hudsons bay co.

thank god i had an interest in it and did some learnin’ on my own

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

they did a really good job of making me think Canadian history was the most boring and useless field of study possible. Luckily, I’m intellectually curious and am slowly finding out that’s not really the case.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how much of the sad history teaching in elementary/secondary school has to do with Canadian’s apathy to our culture/government.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

probably a lot.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

We talked about this a fair bit in my MA Canadian history courses. My theory is that Canadian historians have worked really hard to make the history of their country irrelevant to the actual lives of Canadians, so it’s not really surprising if no one can be bothered to learn about it.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t tell if you are being serious. Why would Canadian historians have done that?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they did it on purpose, I just think a lot of them are boring, self-absorbed ivory tower types who have really rigid views on “proper” history that make history seem really boring and inert. But anyway, that’s a long and probably boring discussion about pedagogy that this isn’t really the place for.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough but I think I see where you are coming from. Whatever the etiology of it, it is a true shame the lack of interest Canadians have in our own history.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Canada A People’s History got monster ratings didn’t it?

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

but history isn’t necessary right? in the real world? We should pull more funding from it.

/sarcasm

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

quick! Everyone throw links at Fergus until she changes her mind

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t usually hear about funding getting cut from history. Usually its drama or another art. Does that actually happen? History funding cut?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That is what I was referring to. It is pretty sad the history most of us got. We actually have a rich history but the only history a lot of people ever learn are the world wars. Its sad.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

World wars? really? Last history I took was on Upper and Lower Canada and how Mcdonald became the 1st Presi… err Prime Minister.

(I left Canada in grade 8.)

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My Canadian history education was actually pretty good considering I only tok the mandatory course.

It was actually really good in elementary school. Than in highschool we had a course that went from the battle of the plains of Abraham to the world wars. Spent a lot of time on Battle of the Plains of Abraham, War of 1812, Confederation, Settling the Prairies (The Last Best West and Camut Wheat, etc), the role of Canadians in WW1, and the history of native canadians.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds a lot like what I got. In university I also studied WWI, which had quite a lot of focus on the Canadian perspective, and then the American Civil War because I knew nothing about it

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

When I was at school (wow starting a sentence like that makes me feel old) The focus was world history. The Candian history courses at high school were purley electives and often cancelled dued to low attendance.

In the course I mentioned above we watched a short documentary film on the battle of Vimy Ridge which protrayed the Americans winning the battle. This was a film that the teacher said had been used as an aide in years past.

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Grade 10 history was the only mandatory history at my highschool and it was Canadian.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I really enjoyed learning about the early period after confederation when Canada was kind of “unified” for lack of a better word.

Also I do enjoy learning about Canada’s role in the two world wars. It is just annoying when it is the only thing they teach. I think our roles as sappers, training the air forces, Ypres, and Juno (just to name a bunch of things off the top of my head) are fascinating. Also learning about the BS way we were equipping our soldiers because of contracts (the boots and guns) was also really interesting.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and Canada has been in grade 8 ever scince.

by wtf now on Jan 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

For three straight years, the only history unit we did was Confederation. And then high school, the only history course you could take until grade 11 was ‘Canadian History,’ which was again largely about Confederation. It’s as if no one knew anything else about Canada worth teaching.

by MrSmithy on Jan 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The issues facing Francophones in Canada are very real, but my position is simple – language can’t be controlled by the government and it shouldn’t try. I have no problem with official bilingualism in terms of government services and departments, but a government can not control how language is used; L’Académie française has been fighting that failing battle in a predominantly French country for centuries. It doesn’t work, and it won’t. Language can, does, and will evolve, and it’s not the government’s job to get involved in trying to “fix” that.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I just can’t stand the heavy handed approach. Our language is being threatened so we are going to force everyone to use it. People have the right to use other languages.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s exactly right. The goal of saving/promoting French language and culture is a good one, but the way they are going about it is wrong. Yes, there may have been significant oppression up until the 70s, but there is no such oppression now. A francophone quebecer faces no employment challenges in Quebec today, at least not related to language and culture. The war is over. Some may argue this is a result of the loi 101 policies and the like, but it’s more likely in spite of them. Culture and society, like language, changes. It’s time to move on. Quebec could be a.powerhouse if it wanted to.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You listening to this Jews? Blacks?

He said get over yourselves, that was then and this is now. Suck it up.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

And I think I am just sensitive this morning, because when I woke up I see I was accused of calling all Quebeqois:

are just a bunch of June 24th type guys, amirite? A bunch of poutine-eating, thin-lipped, small-nosed discriminators, them people.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait Quebeqois are all NHL draft type people? Does that mean they constantly rank and draft each other? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? AM I A FIRST ROUND PICK?

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Bill Watters never used the word faggot, so he’s cool.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure it’s appropriate to feel one’s language and culture is being threatened because their local sports team promoted someone within the organization, and that person hasn’t happened to learn a second language over the course of his life.

It wasn’t a “rally to promote french culture in quebec”, it was a rally to lament the management decisions by a sports team. So at that point, it isn’t a language rally – it’s a habs rally.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

One thing I will agree with the protesters on is that the Habs are an integral part of their culture. I think it is fair to say it is a language rally. It’s still going about things the wrong way, but it is about language.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

The thing with the Habs is that they have fans accross NA so it is a part of their culture but it is also bigger than just their culture.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly though he is taking French courses just like Bowman did when he was there…

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is another reason why it is dumb.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You are thinking too broadly. Think small-minded and provincial and you’ll start to understand.

by Leaf in Habland on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah….its sad that an incredibly vocal minority is raining crap down on everyone.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

How would you use “Tea Party” as an adjective here?

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy underwear! Sheriff murdered! Innocent women and children blown to bits! We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

so accurate in predicting the “security theatre” aspect of modern political culture it’s not even funny any more…

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I will rec this, and then I will go home. Thank you, Fergus.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs notebook

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2012/01/09/leafs-notebook-january-9/

I notice you guys don’t link to this ever. Imho the best piece on the leafs going.

by hendy100 on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Nice piece. Well worth the time.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 10, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Like it

Wish he’d flesh out some of his ideas and make more posts though. That Detroit goal is crying out for a video breakdown. Might do that tonight.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure you’re wrong but when we miss it, it probably has to do with their publishing time and when it goes into our Readers. But that’s what the comments are for: dropping in any pieces we miss.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Although

6 teams had a positive GD when he published not 4.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

In the top eight.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 10:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

OH WELL LAADEEDAA

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the observations on Kadri.. looks like this guy is the real deal (with some obvious rough edges). Looking forward to what he will do in a year or two!

by GettinGiggy on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Why I love that Marchand blog, you could tell it was written by him. You can picture him writing it with crayons or something

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

I feel sorry for the poor intern he dictates it to.

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

This has to be the best description of it. Although it’s missing all the stick figure crayon drawings to go along with it. Why has no one done this yet? C’mon Internet!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 10, 2012 8:48 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

it reads like an Alanis Morissette song.

by spoonie on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s like rain on your wedding day?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 10, 2012 8:58 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

soooo many spoons.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

a free ride, when you’ve already paid?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

not at all. It’s more like a free ride when you’ve already paid.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty evident everybody has heard the same song. What a coincidence

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a little bit ironic, don’t you think?

(actually, no, it’s not at all, and its a terrible song)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

But, for what it’s worth, she is an icon of canadian 90s pop/alternative-pop that has survived through today.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

she still does things?

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Canada: Celebrating our Musicians’ successes in America, or their mediocrity at home.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

She’s no Sarah Mclachlan

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Andre the Giant.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Heard You Oughta Know on the radio the other day and was jamming to it. Aged very well

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Surviving..in that she’s still alive?

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 10, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

look back, clarified that it was her music that “survived”.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

As Golden Words pointed out

1000 spoons when all you need is a knife? That’s not ironic. You can still sort of cut with a spoon. What would be ironic is if you needed a knife and you had 1000 egg timers.

by c_gee on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And rain in your wedding day isn’t ironic… Unless you are marrying a witch… Caus we all know witches melt when hit with water.

by c_gee on Jan 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, “ironic” wasn’t the word my wife used on our wedding day. It poured all day, it’s still a sore subject.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

unless the rain prevented you guys from getting married, or somehow turned you into a creep for life, i don’t see the problem.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

His wedding present to his wife was a mogwai and then the freshly multiplied thousands crashed the reception after midnight and then they ended up with gremlins running amok

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rec’d. I love that movie

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It was supposed to be an outdoor wedding, under a gazebo and little white chairs set up around it. She didn’t have a “plan B” because she said that it would be like “inviting rain”.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

seems to me not having a “plan B” was “inviting rain”

but yeah, that kind of sucks.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

What would be ironic was if you needed a knife and all you had was a cutter (small sailboat). But no-one uses the real definition of irony anyway…

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yes but the ironing is delicious

by WizardofNaz on Jan 10, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean Golden Words as in the Queen’s University engineering society humour newspaper?

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Engineering humour. Ho boy, who do I send my subscription payment to?

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It actually has almost nothing to do with engineering. Engineering students at Queen’s are too busy and humour-impaired to write their own newspaper, so they get film studies and philosophy students to do it for them.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It is awesome. Neil Parischa, the Book of Awesome writer, was the editor when I was in school.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I was editor the year before Neil started at the paper, so I knew him when he was just a wee rookie. He actually showed me the Book of Awesome proposal for feedback back when he was pitching it to publishers. I had no idea it’d be so wildly successful.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The best was when Golden Words broke stories that the Journal didn’t.

by smcs on Jan 10, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, GW made up a lot of the stories that it broke.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 7:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

That song is not ironic at all

Someone just has shit luck

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by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

fail

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

isnt it ironic that the song isnt actually ironic?

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s the true irony

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 10, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on Marchand’s blog, this is how I imagine he talks.

TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

It hurts my everything

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

How long is he out for? I’d love to keep making fun of him for being terrible, but its hard when he hasn’t played in a while (but who noticed?). I wonder if he wants to stay out just because he sucks so badly.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure is nice to have a baseball team!

by 9 Dollar Beer on Jan 10, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The Star still uses the Buffaslug as their logo in the papers.

Is it just mocking the opponent by saying “hey you know that stupid logo you had? yeah we remember”?

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

I think their sports writer/editor is just that dumb.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems like that kind of thing (not updating a team’s logo in paper/on tv) happens a lot. On TSN they used the “old” raptors logo until last season, for example (not that anyone cares about basketball).

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

i completely forgot about the NBA until today while reading the sports section.

now I know how non-NHL fans felt post lockout

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I only notice it because I get annoying at how much time it takes away from hockey on Sportscentre. Basketball season makes PVRing SC necessary so I can fastforward through the highlights.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Loved Gunnar on Gus

Gunnarsson added he admires how Gustavsson has dealt with all the adversity – and criticism – the past 2 1/2 years since coming to Toronto. "What he’s really good at is doing his own thing," Gunnarsson said. "He never listens to anyone. People have been giving him a hard time for a while now, but he just doesn’t listen. He comes down to the rink, and he does his best every day. Media especially [are hard on him], asking him how that play felt, to have five [goals] behind you – that’s tough. But he’s a pro about it. He doesn’t really care. I admire that about him. It’s really hard [to do]."

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by not norm ullman on Jan 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

It is unquantifiable by statistics, but from my eyes it has appeared that Gus has been a little stronger mentally this year. Last year everytime he let in a few goals you could see him get angry and frustrated. This year, not so much

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 10, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno man, a few games into this season I thought Gus basically looked like he had given up on himself and figured he was done in the NHL. It’s cool that a stretch of playing well seems to have helped him regain his confidence, though.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always thought that his two biggest issues as a goaltender were his weakness mentally (for lack of a better term) and his tendency to overplay/over-slide a lot. The overplaying of the puck leading to some soft goals, which then destroyed his confidence and frustrated him, leading to a horrible spiral.

I don’t think there’s any question that he’s got a tremendous amount of athletic ability for a goaltender to make some pretty spectacular saves, it’s always been an issue of not stopping the shots he should be able to stop 100% of the time.

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new article on TSN about Phaneuf
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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

What a locker room cancer.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

oh my god the image of him losing his shit on the ping pong table and people ribbing him about it just kills me.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Terrible captain and leader

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by lucc on Jan 10, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I was impressed when we traded mostly useless players for Phanuef and Aulie, but it still amazes me to this day the kind of player, talent wise and off-the-ice (captain), that we got out of this.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel like

as a group leafs fans are kinda manic with Gustavsson. He’s still under .905 on the season.

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by Steve Burtch on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

We are pretty bipolar on him. But I don’t think it is him specifically. We are just like that about everything. We get high (and low) on players based on 5 or 6 games all the time.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehh, I’m glad he’s playing well and I hope it continues, but I still think he’s a longshot to have a career as more than a below-average backup goalie. As long as he keeps playing well though, I’m going to enjoy it.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

905 you say

So, really, better than any Leafs goalie (other than Reimer) since Belfour? Why would fans be (mildly) excited about that?

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by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

If Leafs fans are excited about goaltending that’s well below league average, we are, to use a polite phrase, so very fucked.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

A good stretch will do that to people.

Honestly, I hope Gustavsson improves. Even if he doesn’t cut it as a starting goaltender, he’d make a decent backup.

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by Frag on Jan 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he doesn’t cut it as a starting goaltender, it would be nice if he’d make a decent backup.

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by Frag on Jan 10, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i feel like

as a group leafs fans are kinda manic with Gustavsson. He’s still under .905 on the season.

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by Steve Burtch on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

feel very strongly about it too

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I feel you felt BCapp concurrence was enough so you posted it a second time?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Really? I feel like most of what I’ve heard or read is, “he’s hot now so let’s keep rolling him until he isn’t”

I think I agree with the average fan that right now, he gives us the best chance to win.

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by Curt S on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Chemmy’s point about the EV Sv% is a good one. Gustavsson’s still the same he’s just doing better on the PK.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that, but you can’t completely discount PK sv%.

It’s less a product of skill than even strength sv% is, but it’s still relevent

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by Curt S on Jan 10, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s much less repeatable. Basically every year Ryan Miller “struggles” you can look at his PK Sv% and he likely struggled there.

But there’s definitely something this year between Gus and Reimer on the PK beyond just variations in luck. Roll with Gus until the wheels fall off.

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Do I think Gustavsson is our franchise goalie? No. But he’s doing just fine for the time being.

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by Curt S on Jan 10, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

everyone used to slam Gus for the PK, saying “the PK would be better if the goalies could just make a save”.

now all of a sudden Gus as a strong PK SV% (better than Reimer) and it’s “just luck”?

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s because Gus is also bad at evens.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling I know where this is headed.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully it’s trending up like Gustavsson. I’m just explaining things.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Gus doesn’t have a “strong” PK SV%, it’s 56th in the league (a bit higher if you take out goalies with only a few GP).

On Minnesota, Josh Harding and Niklas Backstrom have an identical .935 ESSV% (as does James Reimer). On the PK, Harding’s SV% is .929 and Backstrom’s is .875. On that basis, would you be giving Harding the bulk of the starts over Backstrom?

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, now I know you’re making this up. Everyone knows Niklas Backstrom is a forward on the Capitals. Nice try buddy!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BOOM. HEADSHOT.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

For the next little while I be posting with bad-grammar-like-symptoms.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t that what we have Jared for?

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by Ghostsof on Jan 10, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

that and to make you all look less pretty compared to

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

his EV SV% is on the rise though, right? if you take out games against boston (or even the first blowout against boston, after he hadn’t played a game since like February of last year) it rises to like .920+ on the season. it might be a little disingenuous to say it hasn’t changed or that it isn’t improving.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO it’s a difficulty with needing such a large sample to determine “true” talent. Players may actually be getting better or worse over the 3-4 seasons involved, and so the talent level becomes a moving target.

I’m hoping that Gustavsson is actually getting better, and so his relative success this year reflects a higher talent level than he demonstrated previously (rather than just a large spike from an .898 goalie). I’m skeptical that the stats can definitively show this either way.

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by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not terribly complicated… either he wins the next 41+ in a row, or we revert to Reimer

unless Ron Wilson is not to be trusted...

by GettinGiggy on Jan 10, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Just an FYI that today’s Top 25 Under 25 post will be going up this evening as opposed to around noon due to technical difficulties and general rage towards my computer.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Sounds like you guys need new IT staff…

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Have anyone in mind?

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That’s Unlawful.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 10, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My work computer blew up this morning. Our IT guy works in the other office.

If I wasn’t on an old-ass computer that asks me if I want to update Adobe Flash Player each time I load a webpage, I could probably do it.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like you need an IT person at that office

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Our company is only like 40 people. I doubt we need 2 IT staff.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT IF HE GOES ON VACATION OR IS SICK?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno.

Go drinking if we screw shit up, I suppose.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

To compensate for being late, today’s game preview will be posted yesterday.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We have been talking about mental health and the CMHA recently so I thought this may interest some

This years Detroit Free Press Marathon (there are lots of other options like half marathon, and other shorter options) has a Canadian charity as one of there official charities for the first time: The Windsor chapter of the CMHA (Canadian Mental health Association). So anyone in the Windsor or Detroit area should look into this if they are interested.

Cheers.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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by PPP on Jan 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

The right side of the letter gets cut off by ads in my browser. I had to open this picture in a new tab to read it properly.

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by Shield on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what I don't get

From Friedman’s 30 thoughts

11. Murray said Teemu Selanne and Saku Koivu are his untouchables, since they have no-trade clauses. But, there is real doubt he would deal Corey Perry or Cam Fowler. Bobby Ryan will be the interesting one, because, when he was available last month, some of the offers were reasonable.

Why would he keep Perry and trade Ryan?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

I’m speculating, but perhaps he’s worried about the message trading the Hart Trophy winner would send to the fans.

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by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Peter Chirelli traded an MVP in mid season of the year he was named MVP. Can’t do much worse than that

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by Ghostsof on Jan 10, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That wasn’t CHiarelli, it was Mike O’Connell

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You win this round good sir

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by Ghostsof on Jan 10, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

But Chiarelli did try to trade Thomas the summer before he won the Vezina.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

And the season after he won it.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you dont make

I look forward to the flaming this comment shall receive

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

well done

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

flame broiled no less

by GettinGiggy on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Shit, titles, my bad.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like it well-done.

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by Frag on Jan 10, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you dont make

just for fun….how can it be a trade if you don’t make a trade?

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by birky on Jan 10, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

its just a figure of speech.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And his fans didn’t forgive him for years. Luckily Boston is a strong hockey market and he didn’t have to worry about it.

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by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it’s not a matter of who he’;d rather keep, but who he’d get better value for………….i’d say teams would be giving almost identical offers for either Perry or Ryan but Perry is the better player so he keeps him…………….or he just thinks teams would not be willing to part with what he wants for Perry.

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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 10, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I would argue Ryan has a good chance of being the better player. Until this year Ryan’s numbers were way better at the same age. And Ryan is 2 years younger and not a Free Agent after next year.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they’re already roughly equivalent in terms of talent level, but Ryan takes less penalties and is younger. And is also locked into a longer-term contract, making him better from a cap perspective (Perry is almost certainly getting a raise next year). A rebuilding team (which Anaheim is, whether Murray likes it or not) would be stupid to trade the younger, possibly better, cheaper player. But apparently they want to.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hence my confusion.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Anaheim’s rebuilding but they also already have a number of good young players coming through the system.

Fowler’s already there, Smith-Pelley made the jump this year, and Palmieri and Etem join next season. Maybe even Yapukov or Grigorenko.

If they can trade Ryan, they still have their core of Perry & Getzlaf, plus all of these young kids in supporting roles, plus what they get for trading Ryan, plus Koivu and maybe Selanne sticking around as vet leaders.

If things still don’t turn around they’ve got two of the most highly sought after UFAs to deal for way more pieces and then they have a full rebuild underway with a crapload of good prospects and young players already in place.

They have a built-in Plan B. Plan A is trade Ryan and try for a Philly style “rebuild”

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Plan A would be to trade for Getzlaf as he goes UFA after next season and will probably follow the money.

Ryan’s under contract for the next long while.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Getzlaf and Perry’s contracts both run out in 2013.

Getzlaf is also their captain.

If they want to do a Philly style rebuild on the fly, Bobby Ryan’s the play. Then they have flexibility to either re-sign Perry & Getzlaf the following summer (Selanne, Koivu and Blake are all gone by then, freeing up cap room), or blow it up and trade both as pending UFAs.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

But Philly traded their captain…….

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Although that was in the offseason

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Your mom was traded in the offseason.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But can you explain why it is more advantageous to trade Ryan than Perry. Your scenario still works but the core is Ryan and Getlzaf instead of Perry and Getzlaf.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ryan has more value in a trade than Perry, because he’s 2 years younger and cost-controlled for virtually his entire apex of his career.

You trade Ryan you can solve a lot more problems in other areas of the org. than by dealing Perry.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

For me those are the reasons you keep him. He is the ideal piece for them to keep.

I guess everything can just be seen two ways.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember that I’m a big proponent of making sure that your key guys are all about the same age so that you establish your team’s window as they hit their prime.

With Anaheim, they have Perry & Getzlaf turning 27 and then a bunch of kids around 19-21. By the time Perry & Getzlaf hit their early 30s and start looking at diminshing returns, the next wave are turning 24-25 and hitting THEIR prime.

At 24, Bobby Ryan could theoretically fit in either window and help bridge that gap. But he also has enough value that in the long-term he can add valuable pieces to the organization in that 19-21 age group, and in the short-term dealing him frees up some cap space so the team could add another key player to the 27-28 age group.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

For me when it comes to age I really think only one group matters: your core. So they could have there core at 19-21 and everyone elses age can be varied. I don’t see it being necessary for hte rest of their veterans to be 26-28 instead of 24-28;

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re saying the same thing as me but misunderstanding me in the last sentence.

I’m not saying they have to sign another vet in the 26-28 age range, just that if they traded Ryan they would have cap space to maybe try and get another guy that fits into their core, and if they’re doing that then they probably want to go after a guy in the same age range as their two other core players.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So are you saying the only advantage to trading Ryan over Perry is that he’ll return more?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ryan has more value in a trade than Perry, because he’s 2 years younger and cost-controlled for virtually his entire apex of his career.

I said exactly that.

Like you said, that’s also a reason maybe you keep him. We might have differing philosophies on this.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough. FWIW all signs seem to point that Murray agrees with your philosophy and not mine.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm, FA is the key………seems kinda dumb to hold onto the guy who might want to bolt if the team goes through a rebuild………should trade Perry instead

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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yotes claimed GIlbert Brule off re-entry waivers.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Oh no, we’re screwed! maybe NYI will claim him just to fuck another team out of a player.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Er…

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay hockey tonight. It’s always the best thing to look forward to in my day, followed by time to play Skyrim.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Well actually, outdoor hockey is a big thing too. There’s a rink literally a stone’s throw from me and there’s always 10-20 people out playing. Even had a goalie last night.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It is really sweet. I can glance out my balcony to see how many people are playing to see if its a good time to go out. Wish I knew the general areas fellow PPP Ottawans were in, as it would be good to hit up the rink with a bunch of Leafs jerseys (there’s always a few when I go anyways – more non-sens jerseys than Sens for sure)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not always on the site, but if I see you mention a time/place I’d try and make it out. I’m always game for some outdoor shinny.

by LeaferinOttawa on Jan 10, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

the rink is Jack Purcell, I’ll try to do a fanpost sometime soon, I suppose the best time for most is on weekend, though they have lights until ~11pm. I basically play every weekday there isn’t a Leafs game on (best games are usually ~7pm)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds good. I’ll try and make it out sometime in the next couple weeks. I’ll be the one with the ‘Perry’ Leafs jersey (foresight??…possibly).

by LeaferinOttawa on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, JP is literally right around the corner from me. Never even knew they had a rink there. I’ll have to get out there sometime – haven’t played actual hockey on a rink in over a decade, so I’ll suck, but who cares.

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by Adzbass on Jan 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

there are no outdoor rinks in my town.

once the old canal freezes over we’re okay.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

St Catherines is a warm place

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by birky on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

stupid warm this year.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This past Sunday I woke up with a wicked hangover (crashed at my buddy’s apartment at Queen and Ossington) and we promptly went to Trinity Bellwoods and played shinny at the Leafs-built outdoor rink. Amazing ice, beautiful sunny day, temp hovering around 2C. Ultimate hangover cure.

by lucc on Jan 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I really need to learn to skate better

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by BlindSight on Jan 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going to skate once a week (or more) this year with my buddy. I am hoping to be actually competent by the end of the semester.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I had that plan too, until I had my wisdom teeth out and was told not to exercise for a while. Hopefully I can get back on it soon.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So the other day i was asked who i thought was the better defenseman, Liles or Franson and i quickly said Franson, but i decided to look into it, and my opinion changed quite a few times through out it. My dad can beat up your dad: John-Micheal Liles vs. Cody Franson edition.

by pho king awesome on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, just met a recently converted Sabres to Leafs fan… said he was sick of Miller acting like a baby all the time

uh…ok pal. welcome aboard

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

I assume he also used to write for the Buffalo News.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

POTENTIAL TRANSLATION: I was a Leaf fan until 2004, then the Leafs stopped making the playoffs and the Sabres started so I rooted for them. Now that Toronto is in a playoff spot and Buffalo isn’t, I am switching back.

ACTUAL TRANSLATION: DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahahha yea thats pretty much what i was thinking.

That, and that Ryan Miller is the toughest guy on the Sabres roster… so if hes bailing on the buffalo bandwagon, he’s got his reaosns all mixed up. Maybe those retarded contracts for Leino (lulz) and Erhoff would be a better start

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Exnay on the etardedray

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought it was ixnay (nix).

But yes

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought it was ecksnay

…no wait…

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably. I can’t think of the last time I saw it written. Always spoken.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

ack

There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"

by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries we all know it is not intentional. It is very hard to cut words out of your vocabulary.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You don’t call retarded people retards. It’s bad taste. You call your friends retards when they’re acting retarded.

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, i feel bad ’casue I caught that conversation around here too. Ive managed to get a lot of offensive remarks out of my vocab over the past year or so.

Hopefully I didn’t offend anyone.

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve all done it.

I use hilarious to describe that deal because everytime I think about it I laugh uncontrollably

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously don’t feel bad. I “dropped it” a few years ago and I still catch myself saying it once in a while. For what ever reason I was able to drop calling things “gay” completely from my vocabulary much easier. CAlling things retarded has been much harder to drop.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Its the fans fault for running Connolly out of town and then they had to replace him with someone worse.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid small market team! Why won’t you spend any money!?!?!?

Stupid team with money! Why are you blowing all that cash on these useless players!?!?!?!

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time nobody thought paying Ville Leino a lot of money was a bad idea.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure everyone laughed at the contract

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

that money in particular yes but he was going to paaaaaaiiiidd. I don’t really know why.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Drury effect. I laughed at the Rangers than my team went out and did the same dumb thing.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

whooooooosh

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes.
Well then, excuse me while I jump out of this window

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on we’ve been making fun of that deal since July 1st.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

We were pre-emptively making fun of whomever signed Leino to a hilarious contract.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember that.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was a bad idea but I still thought he coudl get 15/40. I definitely didn’t see him being this bad.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Way to go.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you really see him being this bad? Less than 10 goals and 30 points over the season?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but $4.5M cap hit for a 15/40 guy is shitty.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

$4.5M for 10/30 is jokes all night.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh 100%. But what actually happened is just absolutely hilarious.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d probably take Komi over that.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i had him at 35 points which he would be projected to get if he hadn’t missed games.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

$4,500,000.00

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Drury Syndrome.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering the Leafs play Buffalo twice this week, I don’t think a 6 Years/$27 Million Sparklee is an unreasonable request.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Please do.

JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS PPG AGAINST YOU IN THE PLAYOFFS DOESNT MEAN YOU NEED TO SIGN THEM TO A SATHER CONTRACT

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

20$

says you can find Buffalo News articles dated July 6 or so saying that shipping out Connolly for Leino was a great move because Leino isn’t a locker room cancer and can “score when it matters” “clutch” “heart” blah blah blah.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah thanks for Connolly, enjoy Leino.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Really they just like to complain. Even when the Sabres miraculously win, everyone just says “Well they won’t win 2 in a row”

At the end of the season if the Sabres are on the bubble they’ll claim they won too many games in the beginning of the season when they should have been tanking.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh oh

Blazing Saddles isn’t on Netflix

by pho king awesome on Jan 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

that’s surprising, since Netflix has the market on crappy movies covered.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

zing!

Netflix Canada is just godawful. no Disney, HBO, Warner Bros..

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i never even bothered with the free trial…looked through their selection, wasn’t worth the bandwidth.

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by elseldo on Jan 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

UNLIMITED MOVIES AND TV SHOWS! /exceptnotreallybecausecanadianbandwidthrestrictionsareajoke

by lucc on Jan 10, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I did sign up to netflix.ca (free trial) and it does suck. It has nothing new and it is flagged for not having Blazing Saddles and for recommending Desperate Measures as movie I might like. One of the worst movies ever!

Bam Bam.- digga digga damm

by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it recommends a lot of cool things to me,

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

probably because you rate things. If you don’t rate enough things, it has no idea what the recommend you. Mine’s gotten a better the more I rate.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I try to rate everything. My one complaint is that it automatically includes “movies watched” in its analysis. I feel like it should ask me if I want it included (because sometimes my roommate watches on my netflix, or my gf chooses a movie I don’t like).

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

happens to me too, my wife watches terrible TV, but some recommendations are clearly for me, so I do like that. They also say “Movies like: (blank)”, often movies I’ve watched, and some recommendations are quite good. I’m glad they finally added a “saved” folder for movies so I dont have to find them again (as I did in the earliest Netflix PS app)

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It does have some good suggestions, I was just offended that it recomended Extremes Measures.

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by Eterrible on Jan 10, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No idea what that is. I won’t deny sometimes it says I’ll dislike movies I like, or like movies I hate, but it is surprisingly good.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the only good thing about it is Breaking Bad

by pho king awesome on Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Mad Men gives Breaing Bad a run for its money. That series right there is worth the 8 bucks a month. All 4 seasons too

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by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

also, where else can you get that many movies for 10$? Nowhere. They also have excellent shows – the Boondocks, Afro Samurai, Arrested Development, etc.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Better off Ted was recommended to me and it was incredible.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly it got the axe, just like arrested development. wtf were they thinking?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Because (as I have realized) TV show success is about exposure marketing, time slots (think competition at the slot), and luck and how they all lead to ratings, moreso than their actual quality. Often a great show just didn’t get the word of mouth until years after it was cancelled.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus the Neilson ratings system is super archaic.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, someone explained it ot me on here a while back. Seemed pretty wild.

The point still holds though that I (and many people I know) never hear about great shows until long after they are off the air. A show needs to get a lot of word of mouth fast to make it.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it. I watch a shit ton of BBC

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by Fergus30 on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, while i was in the states last week i checked it out and it was miles and miles ahead of netflix canada

by pho king awesome on Jan 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it really is.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

and yes, this get’s a rec. So true of the online streaming option.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Could always just google “us netflix in canada”…..

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

This comment will probably be deleted. We do not discuss illegal streaming on this website.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry :( can’t discuss generic search terms?

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Another SBN site had some legal issues because people were posting streams of the team’s game.

It’s a proactive “let’s not get sued” thing.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I probably exagerrated with teh delete comment, but because of some problems with the illegal streams we just don’t discuss it around here (protecting PPP from having legal action taken against them).

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Or what Clark said….

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

…And here I am thinking you guys just haven’t discovered all those.. ahem… “alternative viewing methods” yet.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Keeper league

We keep any 8 players and 6 more with less than 100 games. That means that the 1st round draft pick will give you your 15th player.

Should I trade:
Tuuka Rask
James Neal
5th Round Pick

for
Corey Perry
Jacob Markstrom

by Ben Schnell on Jan 10, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yup. Go for it

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

No. Rask and Markstrom both have potential, but Rask will walk away with more Ws per year when Thomas can’t hold down the starter’s gig. James Neal plays with Crosby and Malkin. Corey Perry isn’t likely to have another Richard winning season in him, and might be losing his pass-first center.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m assuming you mean trade away and get Perry/Markstrom in return.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Thomas will have the starters gig for another couple years probly.. and Crosby and Malkin bnoth have a hard time staying in the lineup

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thomas contract comes up after next year I believe.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim Thomas has started just 26 of the Bruins’ 38 games. Even if he’s the “starter” going forwards, Rask is looking at 30+ starts a season, and likely more next.

Crosby and Malkin have had a hard time staying in the lineup this season, and Neal is still 36 points in 40 games, or 73.8 point pace. Roughly the equivalent of Perry, and two years younger. At best they’re a washout, though I’d take Neal before Perry in a draft, let alone when giving up assets. Then you want to throw in Rask – who’s far more of a known quantity proven than Markstrom – for the privilege of moving sideways? And a pick?

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

For this season and maybe next I’d take Perry just because they are close in G/Pts but Perry takes it with PIMs. After next year it is almost definitely Neal.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. Once you start talking “keeper league,” I don’t think there’s much of a discussion to be had.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Perry is probably worth a tad more today even in a keeper, but could be argued they are even. But Rask has way more value than Markstrom.

Anywho that is my two cents.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough. Hard to argue with your poijnt in a keeper format

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

for sure

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Neal and Perry will be comparable from here on out, possible slight edge to Neal.

Rask > Markstrom who keeps getting stuck in the AHL, whereas Rask will be the go to go in 2 seasons.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If PIMS count, edge to Perry

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Rask has the best S% and GAA in the league. In the long run he is the real deal. Markstrom is still a ? and the difference in value between them is not equal to the difference in value between Neal and Perry. (But does Neal get the PIMs that Perry gets?)

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Rask has the best S% and GAA in the league. In the long run he is the real deal.

/guninmouth

by lucc on Jan 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I know eh?

FUCK JFJ

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Darn, sometimes I wish the Leafs would have been the smart ones and drafted Rask instead of —

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a locker room cancer.

Right? Right?

by stevesmith19 on Jan 10, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you consult with HFBoards re: the 5th round pick randomly thrown in?

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

A good read by former basketball player Paul Shirley on life after career.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

And if you haven’t read his book, Can I Keep My Jersey?: 11 Teams, 5 Countries, and 4 Years in My Life as a Basketball Vagabond, it’s well worth a read as well. Nice to see Shirley re-emerging from semi-obscurity after that unpleasantness surrounding the Haiti earthquake.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone know the leafs line up tonight

by Jay! on Jan 10, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Same as Saturday, Gardiner sitting.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Think he gets sent down soon? I don’t like a rookie sitting much. (Personally I would rather he plays to Aulie.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think somebody will get traded before too long, but really Aulie should be in the AHL and we should have a sheltered 3rd pairing in him and Franson.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Gardiner/Komi do pretty well early on? I think I remember it was a nice mix of a versatile, quick skating defenseman and a slow, hard-hitting shut-down guy.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it could also have been confirmation bias

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Komi is still doing well. Gardiner was doing well, but making rookie mistakes as should be expected; trying to do to much. He’s still better than Aulie.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

much, though Aulie has stepped up his game from “Definitely should be in the AHL rather than up here” to “Should be in the AHL”

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh. I still doubt he is ahead of Holzer. Holzer has looked a lot better in the A from everything I have heard.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he deserves a chance too – he’s what, 24 now? Give him a shot if you’re going to call him up. Otherwise don’t call anyone up, you’re wasting his time when he could be playing in the A.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That pairing was very good

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t mind giving him some rest occasionally, since he’s never played more than 40 games in a season before, but I’d like to win games too. I’m not convinced that dressing Schenn, Komisarek and Aulie at the expense of Gardiner is the best way to do that.

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by Back In Black on Jan 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Gardiner has similar SA/60 numbers as Schenn despite a 10% advantage in zone starts and slightly tougher competition. Aulie is better than both of them with respect to SA/60 and quality of competition, with an o-zone % lower than Gardiner and higher than Schenn.

by stevesmith19 on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The shots against are close but the corsi (a better measure) is not. Gardiner is miles ahead of both and Schenn is ahead of Aulie.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

His o-zone % is also much higher.

by stevesmith19 on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure

I would say his harder qual comp though is balanced by his much better qual team (best on the team). I think he looks worse.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

Boyes only has 3 goals.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

His ice time is all over the place. 9 minutes, 18 minutes, 4 minutes, 18 minutes…

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is to say “huh, that’s weird” more than a counterpoint or anything.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

huh, that’s weird.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He plays on a different line each game.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It would help if the Sabres could have the same lineup for two full games. They have another opportunity tonight to succeed at this. (It would be the first time since Nov. 11)

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you care so much about the sabres?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy Flyers fans, who can understand them?

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 10, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Terrible year. I picked him and Umberger in a “no change after draft” draft. (at 89th and 99th overall in pure points). Both are having TERRIBLE years.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Last comment from Friedman's 30 thoughts

Linky

I found it interesting that both of these comments were in there:

3. Don’t believe for a second Roberto Luongo didn’t want to play in Boston. Do think Alain Vigneault believed, with his goalie’s confidence riding high, the coach was going to keep him away from the scene of the Stanley Cup crime, whether Luongo liked it or not. If Luongo’s mad about it, he’ll play great against everyone else, which doesn’t hurt Vigneault any.

29. There are times in a season where a coach can really win over his players with a simple move. Brian Elliott shut out the Avalanche on Saturday, which would normally guarantee another start. But he will sit, because Ken Hitchcock knows how badly Jaroslav Halak wants to play in Montreal. Players notice these things and appreciate it when organizations pay attention.

I am not saying they are contradictory, just that they kind of look at both sides of similar stories.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Mistake
3. Don’t believe for a second Roberto Luongo didn’t want to play in Boston. Do think Alain Vigneault believed, with his goalie’s confidence riding high, the coach was going to keep him away from the scene of the Stanley Cup crime, whether Luongo liked it or not. If Luongo’s mad about it, he’ll play great against everyone else, which doesn’t hurt Vigneault any.

29. There are times in a season where a coach can really win over his players with a simple move. Brian Elliott shut out the Avalanche on Saturday, which would normally guarantee another start. But he will sit, because Ken Hitchcock knows how badly Jaroslav Halak wants to play in Montreal. Players notice these things and appreciate it when organizations pay attention.

Meant to quote both numbers.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont forget that Schneider is from Boston….

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I did forget that. That explains a lot. Thanks.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, and his family is from there; I’m pretty sure that was his first appearance in front of them where he wasn’t coming in relief for Luongo.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Marek and Wyshynski were talking about this on their podcast yesterday, and they looked at it as the Canucks organization using the biggest game of the regular season as a big stage on which to showcase Schneider. They’re going to have to make a decision on him sooner than later.

by lucc on Jan 10, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure they’re contradictory. One says “Goalie wanted to play, coach granted him that, and players [goalie and others] notice it.” the other says “Goalie wanted to play, Coach thought otherwise.”

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That is what I said.

I am not saying they are contradictory, just that they kind of look at both sides of similar stories.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah. Right. Well, carry on then.

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by Bower Power on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahah I think I will.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep breaking PPP – I post a comment, the comment content disappears but my name and the up/reply/actions remains, and usually it turns 1 comment into two just like that. Then when I z down the comments, it says that one is new (even though its by me). So weird.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

That happens to me if I leave the screen open, then put my computer on sleep. When I reopen and try to post that happens maybe 1/4 times.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just blaming internet explorer.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Happens to me in Chrome.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

then don’t wear chrome

by wtf now on Jan 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Then how will he swag on all the haters man?

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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 10, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 10, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

I still haven’t seen Blazing Saddles.

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by theninjagreg on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

Isn’t anybody going to help that poor man??

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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 10, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hush, Harriet! That’s a sure way to get him killed!

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Inaugural blog post on the Canucks/Bruins drama:

http://50missioncap.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/an-open-letter-to-bruins-and-canucks-fans/

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Best
Watching your games is a lot like the Republican primaries; we’re not really sure who to root for, and we think you’re all fucking insane.

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by theninjagreg on Jan 10, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

And another one (I made up a couple posts before going public, just edited them today):

http://50missioncap.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/goalie-talk-regressing-reimer/

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Latest post on Bleeding Blue and White is up. It is the shot differential chart for Leafs vs. Wings on Saturday.

http://bleedingbluenwhite.blogspot.com/2012/01/shot-differential-chart-for-leafs-vs_10.html

by TheCeej on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Aulie is on Twitter. @kaulie59

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

damn, he should have taken Muhammed_Aulie.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

@TheWookie

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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 10, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile a new Hockey Reference page has been sponsored.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

my money is on scott gomez

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn’t need any more money. He has enough.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is more overpaid then Gomez. That might be one of the worst contracts in the history of contracts. In fact it is so bad that I don’t think it is possible to match it. The money to point production ratio cannot be topped.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Last season the habs paid him over 1million dollars per goal. For a Forward.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

=ERROR #DIV/0

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Computers would generally output NaN for a divide by zero error.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just using the Excel formula function. #isnotoverlycomputerliterate

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends

The old company I worked for used -32600 for “NULL VALUE”. Rather than an actual NULL or NaN. Good times.

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by theninjagreg on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

In the recent history of contracts, it is absolutely among the worst. While not on the same level, paying Komi 4.5 million is no laughing matter either, though. For another year no less.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Komi I would say is about 1.5mill over paid. Gomez is about 4.5 mill dollars overpaid

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It is still bad but if he was making 3mill. Doubt anyone would criticize Komi’s contract.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d say he’s 7 million overpaid but what do I know.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Even money that if there is an amnesty clause in the new CBA negotiations, Philly buys out Bryzgalov.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

There are going to be a lot of buyouts if that clause is passed.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone still wanna buyout Dion?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Could we re-sign him?

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

At $6.5M we buy him out and he gets 2/3rds of that money. The $6.5M goes off the cap. We re-sign him for $2.16M so he gets $6.5M and the Leafs get 4M+ in cap space.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably should do that with all our players to be honest.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Komi and Dion would be nice, i think everyone else is getting fair dollars

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke wouldn’t do it though

by munniec on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt the NHL would be cool with that.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

if there is a buy you amnesty period they can not be cool with it all they want

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m very interested to see how the new CBA negotiations go down.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if they added a condition that you couldn’t re-sign the bought out player.

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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

they didnt seem to mind when the Sens did it last time

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

But how cool would it be if the NHL was cool with that? It would be Uber cool

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Guessing that

a) any amnesty period is like one silver bullet.
b) that you can’t re-sign them because that’s clearly cap circumvention.

Going into next summer though who you would you turf? Does getting Komi or Armstrong off your books for one year make sense? Schenn’s the only guy with long term money that might not be earning it (right now) and he’s 22.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d buy out Komi for that one year if it left a cap hit of zero. Lombardi too if we couldn’t get someone to give us like a 5th round draft pick or something for him.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 10, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

If Lombardi has refound his preinjury game by the end of the year I definitely wouldn’t.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure there will be a clause against doing that.

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by BCapp on Jan 10, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you himagine? That buyout is like humangous big.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

2012-13: $875,000
2013-14: -$625,000
2014-15: $1,375,000
2015-16: $1,375,000
2016-17: $1,875,000
2017-18: $1,875,000
2018-19: $5,125,000
2019-20: $6,125,000
2020-28: $1,708,333

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY GOD!

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and thus the lulz were brought

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

it can be negative if the salary for that year is higher than the cap hit.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It can happen.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

A salary credit.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank GMs giving varying salaries from year to year for that.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 10, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Amnesty clause would have to be limited to one or two contracts, though, or players will flip. Also, I would actually support it if it were dubbed “The Idiot GM Clause”

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Redden, 6.5 mill to play in the AHL

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeap. Redden’s the worst until Bryzgalov is buried/bought out/framed for a felony.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 10, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No cap hit.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

still a hilarious amount of dollars to be spending on your AHL team, any team but an original 6 money factory it would be funnier

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to think that like Souray, someone would pay him 1 million just to see where he’s at. I kind of feel sorry for those guys (when I don’t think about them getting paid so well) just because they get burried due to GM incompetence.

by Goosemonster on Jan 10, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

NO WAY

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs tv mobile iphone app

Guys does anyone here have the leafs tv mobile iphone app.

I working late in the office and i want to watch the game, i’m in toronto but have a US I.P what are my options!

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by Juggy Gilmour on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

US IP? Gamecenter Live should work.

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by Chemmy on Jan 10, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but wouldn’t that require me paying $100?

Do they have a one game rate like leafs tv

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by Juggy Gilmour on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah I just looked back at my post and I can’t type.

Does anyone have any experience with the leafs tv app.

I’m thinking I may as well shell out the $20 and i’ll be able to watch leaf games on the bus ride home.

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by Juggy Gilmour on Jan 10, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Game is on sportsnet tho

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by leafer1984 on Jan 10, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If your a Rogers customer, you should get the game for free by streaming it of their site.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

off*

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

US IP address probably won’t let me do that, stupid amurican companies.

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by Juggy Gilmour on Jan 10, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I see. Don’t know if Leafs TV will work though.

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? This is intriguing as I am a Rogers customer…Do you have a link?

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by theninjagreg on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

rogersondemand.com and activate your account. Then all sportsnet games are free!

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by SPERO on Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure leafs tv online carries everything except hockey night in canada games.

We require, as a team, proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence

by Juggy Gilmour on Jan 10, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If you have a phone that can play flash, and don’t mind breaking the law, you can probably find a way to watch it on your phone.

AFAIK the offical NHL game centre app only works on US Verizon phones. Which is lame for people like me in Canada.

I will stand beside him with an axe!

by theninjagreg on Jan 10, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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