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by SkinnyFish on Jan 11, 2012 7:01 AM EST
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Was that a Mirage, or Did We Just See a Kulemin Breakthrough? - Mike at Vintage Leaf Memories
Going into Tuesday night’s encounter against the struggling Sabres, Kulemin had found the back of the net a grand total of 4 times through the first half of the NHL schedule. Kulemin—still only 25 years of age—had netted 15, 16 and then 30 goals in his first three seasons, overcoming challenges including language and new surroundings to grow into a solid, two-way NHL winger at a fairly tender age.
.........
Through the first part of the season, his game was uneven though the work ethic seemed to be there. The puck was not going in for him, but you didn’t get the sense that he was hurting the team most nights.
......Then came the Buffalo game.
Head on over to see why Mike is so excited.
Random stat of the day - Leafs are 9-0-2 against teams with 3 word in their name. Courtesy of PPP user plen.
Random stat of the day #2 - How do you improve the league's worst PK? By not taking penalties. Leafs have only been shorthanded twice in the past three games. Last night was the first game all season without a shorthanded situation.
More links after the jump.
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The Muppet points out that Goose is now 30th league wide. Yes Leafs fans. This is cause for celebration.
Beauchemin?
Game recap at Fighting for Stanley.
Leafs Aim for Big Lead Over Struggling Sabres
Friday is yet another big 4 point game.
Mirtle with his game recap.
MLHS with their game recap.
Learning to Play: Hitting the OK Plateau
Got any advice for someone learning how to play the game?
Cody Franson vs. John Micheal Liles
The Silver Fox wants to know who's better.
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Black Dog Hates Skunks likes Winter.
Winner and Loser at the NHL's Midseason Mark
DGB had me crying with the Rick Nash one.
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by elseldo on Jan 11, 2012 7:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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FUCK YEAH EAT IT BUFFALO!
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
now i have that song stuck in my head.
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I for one, am pumped.
"The Passion Continues..."
by WendelMadeMe on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t seen a show produced by CBC that I liked since late 1990s/early 2000s this hour has 22 minutes – back it when had bite, and wasn’t full of dull and utterly tame “comedy”.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
yeah that show is terrible now. but the news related shows like doc zone, passionate eye are pretty interesting. and Republic of Doyle i think is better done than any of their studio shows.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
To be fair, I don’t have cable nor do I watch TV – I get 2 HD channels through my rabbit ears (CBC, Radio-Canada) so I only use it to watch Leafs on the rare Saturday Ottawa isn’t playing.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah. i didn’t have high hopes for it, but it doesn’t seem like production was cheaped out on.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
I think I just hate the CBC keeps promoting it – they must have over 50% of their own shows as their commercials. It gets so irritating I don’t want to ever watch the channel, except for the Leafs and even then we know about the quality of their commentators.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
thats either a programming or sales issue then. if the program is too short to fill the breaks with just the 12 min of commercial time allowed then they use more promotional spots, but if they don’t sell the full 12 min/hour then they’ll use more promotional spots to fill the time.
this time of year it gets bad for that.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
It’s been like that for at least a few years IIRC. Always CBC ad after CBC ad, followed by a real commercial, CBC ad, the same real commercial again.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
can’t sell the ad time i guess.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
it’s a vicious circle: bad tv, bad ratings, can’t sell ads, can’t pay for good shows, bad tv, bad ratings, etc.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
and dont get me wrong I don’t hate the idea of the CBC, just the implementation. It seems like a channel run for rube Canadians, not the (vast majority) living in cities.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Connecting to a conversation from yesterday
I started watching it because Netflix recommended it to me. I find it kinda campy but a really fun show.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I actually watched 22 minutes last night for the first time in 5 years and thought it was decent.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
my mother-in-law likes it. It can’t be good. I’ve watch whole episodes without even chuckling. For my money. when Mercer went tame the whole thing just declined so badly. Instead of mocking politicians for the silly things they do or say, he now wants to be buddy-buddy. I really hate that. We lack a jon stewart-like comedy show, something This Hour used to be (or sorts, with more sketches)
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome. One of the only Canadian shows that I thoroughly enjoy.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
What IS it?
Name?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
check out InSecurity (also a CBC product) and Todd & The Book Of Pure Evil (if you enjoy the dumb-funny Trailer Park Boys-style comedy without the mockumentary… if that makes sense)
Todd and the Book of Pure Evil is fuckin amazing
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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I will have to look into it.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Its honestly just a fun show. Its actually really stupid, but hilarious
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Good morning
Re: getzlaf
This is a perspective I hadn’t thought about and I agree with you. Getzlaf would slow down (and likely change) kessel’s game which, we can all agree, doesn’t need any tweaking at the moment. Plus, when we look at the Leafs and things to change you certainly don’t go running to their top line who are playing a decent two-way game this season. Fixing what ain’t broke combined with the fact that he is not playing too well this season, could be detrimental to the Leafs.
Fingers crossed for Nash.
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
by LeafsLover on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Lupul-Getzlaf-Kessel would be outstanding, but it would cost the Leafs way too much to get him. What was it? 2 solid roster players, top prospect and a first? Pass. This team needs its depth more than a Getzlaf, both right now and long term.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Ya that package is a bit over the top
Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
by LeafsLover on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That package is the “asking” price. If that’s where negotiations start? I’m pretty happy, because they likely end up lower.
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
posted on Bcp as well
Would you say that Bozak and Connolly are pivotal to the rush game now? I mean, Connolly seems to keep up, but Bozak isn’t usually in that rush as well – that’s the Kessel-Lupul connection, and I don’t see how Getzlaf could be a detriment to the team, especially if he improves in-zone and defensive play (both areas where Lupul/Bozak/Kessel looks less impressive).
Further, Rick Nash plays wing. Which means he’s taking either Kessel or Lupul’s spot, or isn’t playing on that top line. Then we have the same problem of need an elite center long term, plus replacing whatever assets we gave up in a deal for Nash.
Getzlaf himself might not be the answer, but when elite talent becomes available…
RIP Former-and-forever Leaf Wade Belak
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
This was exactly my counter to Darren when we were discussing his post.
Wingers rush, centers are generally deeper in the zone helping out defensemen. Transition offense isn’t generally a center ‘thing’ and I think Getzlaf as a distributer and puck retrieval guy would be a great fit with those two.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
Getzlaf over Nash
And if we got Getzlaf, we don’t neccessarily play him with Kessel & Lupul.
This assumes we re-sign Grabbo, and acquire Getz with Kadri, Bozak, and Schenn (for the sake of argument).
Macarthur – Getzlaf – Grabbo (Power vs Power)
Lupul – Connoly – Kessel (Slightly Sheltered)
Crabb – Colborne/Lombardi – Frattin (Really Sheltered)
Brown – Steckel – Boyce (Defensive specialists)
Or something like that. Point is, you separate Getz and Kessel.
Where’d Kuli go?
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Traded for a lotto pick 1st of course
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
sabres fans are suddenly silent
living in buffalo the past 10 years, i’ve heard year in and out how great the sabres are and how terrible the leafs are…. i can’t blame the local fans… they’re proud and loyal (and friggin annoying as hell).
so far in 2012 though, these fans have been surprisingly quiet around me… of course it may have something to do with the fact that the games in buffalo are no longer broadcast through the most popular cable broadcasting company (time-warner), so no one is watching the games (boo-hoo!). go leafs!
it’s weird, the MLHS game in 10 says “the PK has been perfect all year”. By Calendar year it’s right but when it comes to hockey I think the year goes July 1 – June 30, so I keep arguing in my head “no it hasn’t, it’s sucked this year”.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
Hahah,
I think you’ve given this too much thought already.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
I found it weird that they said the Leafs have had trouble holding leads. If anything, I thought that was a bright spot.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Up until this season it has been a major problem.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Agreed. I got the impression MLHS was talking about this season though.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
That's just scar tissue from the Raycroft days.
No lead was safe.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
It was pretty much expected that anything less than a three goal lead would evaporate in the 3rd, and even then I’m pretty sure they blew some three goal leads.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Im a Gus supporter and all
However I wouldn’t say Gustavsson shut out the Sabres last night, it was more that the Leafs shut out the Sabres. By my count, Gus made 2 maybe 3 really tough saves all game. The leafs defence deserve a lot of credit for this.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Shutouts where the defence are nowhere to be seen are very rare. Gustavsson still showed up when he was needed, I wouldn’t take away from his accomplishment. Still faced 30-odd shots.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
I’m not, I’m just saying the defence was very good last night
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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You have a point, but typically shutouts are a team effort. A combo of gooad goaltending, defensive play and some luck (goal posts)
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
re: Boston.
How many quality shots did the Leafs have on Thomas last time we played?
by 9 Dollar Beer on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
no idea
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think a game like last night can make an argument that shot quality can matter. Im actually surprised Buffalo has 32 shots, it seemed like they only had 20
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Shot quality is definitely real in an individual game. Whether or not it’s a repeatable talent at the level of a full team over the course of an entire season is a different question.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you 100%. This is why I always preach context
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right. I think there’s a big disconnect among the shot quality vs. no shot quality crowd. They think in different terms.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Has anyone looked to see if shot quality against (i.e. save quality) is repeatable ?
The SV quality is composed of the team part (shot against distance, shot against location, screening goalie etc) and the goalie skill part. The true goalie SV% part should be “repeatable” but the team part could be tested for repeatability or randomness.
This wouldn’t show a shooter can impact shot quality as much the team’s defence is responsible for shot quality against.
I think arguing that shot quality doesn’t exist in a small sample size (like a single game) is a crazy argument that no one would make. Of course it matters. The argument against shot quality is that over large enough samples (a couple thousand shots) it balances out.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
And perhaps...
Ron Wilson?
They guy went crazy trying to drill the PK strategy into players’ heads, and went so far as to use ropes to talk about shooting lanes. Leafs have played 3 perfect games on the PK, and been a lot tighter defensively.
Maybe it’s a coincidence, but his team is doing the things he wants. Credit where credit is due.
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The PK was so good last night I didn't even notice it.
by Ben Schnell on Jan 11, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
IMPOSSIBLE
FIRE WILSON
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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if all it took was one practice of detailed instruction, I have to ask: why did it take so long?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Was it the fact that they stripped right down to the basics of the PK or that based on the Twitter reports everybody was being completely frank and honest with their assessments of what had been going wrong?
Cynically Sarcastic
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yeah I dunno. but it’s weird that something like that took 3 years to do…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t you see how long that rope was? Depending on the circumstances, it could take longer than 3 years to make a rope that long.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maaaaan, that vertical rope trick is gonna take years.
Bummer.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
“I’m sick of giving up powerplay goals. Next guy who takes a penalty has to spend next practice pulling the net around with these ropes.”
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 11, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
As noted on MLHS, they also switched to 3 groups of PKers as opposed to 2, in order to keep players from getting tired on the PK
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
That makes a lot of sense, if you have the roster depth to do it.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
A “perfect” 3 games on the PK in which we’ve had to kill only 2 penalties. Let’s not get carried away here.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Taking less penalties is key for this team.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
It’s a sure way not get scored on during a penalty kil.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Given how consistently bad our PK has been after the lockout with entirely different team compositions, I am totally willing to embrace an abstinence-focused education on these matters.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
we used to rip Gus because he’d let in 1 or 2 softies.
now we’re ripping Gus because he’s not making enough big saves in a 32-save shut-out?
there’s really no pleasing some people.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
HUGE
I really like his blocker save in the 2nd. Nice blend of solid positioning and reflexes. Big league save
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Oh come on. I’m not saying he wasn;t good, but the leafs defence played a very very good game. We shit on the leafs defensive play all the fuckin time, they deserve credit where it is due.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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personally I think it goes without saying that if your #2 goalie has 2 shutouts in 3 games the D must be playing pretty well.
but Gus, just like the D, has made huge improvements lately, and to say he ‘only made a few good saves’ is to sell him short.
good defense + good goaltending + goal support = wins.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Also, no one ripped him.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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you knew that already, you’ve been flamed for defending Gus. Until his career SV% is up to .910 or so, people here won’t eat their words. For the record, though I mostly have agreed with you I almost gave up totally on Gus back when Reimer got injured.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
This,
I’ve been advocating that Gus is and could be good goalie during nearly his whole time here. He makes some fundamental mistakes like overcommitting, and he used to do that more early on—he’s gotten better lately—and though he’s likely at best a backup, I thought that maybe he could play in a 1B scenario. I’ve always thought that, but when Reimer went out I started to turn on him and finally gave up. Now he’s proving me wrong, thank goodness. I had a moment of weakness, but i’m on your team!
I’ve always maintained he would have gotten better sooner if he had played in the AHL. I know he would only come to the NHL, i’m just stating it because I really believe the Euro-NA transition is particularly hard for goalies. Very different angles, quicker puck movement and the shots come faster and closer as well.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
It didn’t help that our other goalie(s) was/were so bad he thrown into the mix right away.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think anybody actually wants him to fail. I mean, that’d be like cutting your face off to spite your nose. Or however that saying goes.
I’m pleasantly surprised that Gustavsson has played so much better of late, for sure. Just because some of us were critical of him before doesn’t mean we can’t praise him now.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing wrong with changing your point of view based on new information.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 11, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
According to Don Cherry
That makes you a hypocrite
Science is now a hypocrite
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES: When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?
DON CHERRY: What are ya talkin’ about ya dummy?!?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I live by an Einstein quote:
“Most quotes are made up by people and then attributed to other online.”
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Casseus Clay (sp?)
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
I’ll just call him Aulie.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Just like Muhammad Aulie they called him Cassius
Watch me bash this beat like a skull
Cuz u know I had beef wit
Why do u riff with me, the maniac psycho
And when I pull out my jammy get ready cuz it might go
BLAAAAW, how ya like me now?
by Peter Lynn on Jan 11, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine."
― Abraham Lincoln
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 11, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thats the one.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 11, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Jan 11, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
In the world according to Garp, we are all terminal cases.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Jan 11, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
who has ripped him?
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
i say that as some one who hasn’t been his biggest fan, but honestly, nobody is “ripping” on him here.
He is playing very well right now, and last night his D was exceptional. Nice to see on both fronts. Hope it keeps up.
Unabashed fan of the surprise 2012 Stanley Cup champs
seems like every time he plays well, there’s always someone sitting around saying ‘yeah, but…’
‘yeah, but the D played well’ is about as bad as it comes. somehow it’s a reflection of the goaltending when his SV%/GAA is bad, but a reflection of the team when it improves. there’s probably some anchoring going on because of his past performance, but we should expect our goalies to play well if the D does so also. that’s just good hockey.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
seems like every time he plays well, there’s always someone sitting around saying ‘yeah, but you’re just sitting around waiting to parade it in our faces.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh, Major Fail; Should be:
seems like every time he plays well, there’s always someone sitting around saying ‘yeah, but you’re just sitting around waiting to parade it in our faces
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
i’m not the one who started this thread. apparently calling people on logical inconsistencies is ‘sitting around waiting to parade it in your faces.’?
and besides, what is there to parade? are you sad he’s played well? does this disappoint you?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Actually (and no, I don’t care to go back and look for it), there’s a thread from late October where certain bloggers had come to a “consensus” on Gus and concluded that he is NOT a calibre goaltender and should NOT play any further games. I suggested that in spite of his poor performance, he is still part of the Leafs roster and should be supported regardless. I was met with a response to the tune of “I’ll cheer for the Leafs but not for Gus”.
/howyougonnachallengethat?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
So people were ripping on him when he was playing poorly? That makes sense, people were ripping on Schenn, Franson and a host of others back then as well.
Now he’s playing well, people are supporting him.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a difference in “ripping” and claiming that he’s done and you want to see him off the team.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Boo friggin hoo. Its called context. I would say the same for Reimer.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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i’ve been trying to establish context in regards to gustavsson for 3 years. suddenly now it’s become important?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
No point in arguing, VRN, as I said you can only get people to eat their words when his career numbers are up to .910 or so. I agree with you, but it won’t change minds. I remember statements like “Gus is not an NHL goalie”, “Gus is absolutely awful and doesn’t deserve to play”, etc.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Gus hasn’t been an NHL goalie for most of his career. Having a good run at the moment still doesn’t make my first sentence untrue.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I agree, but whereas you end it there, I try to explain some of the reasons why we see flashes of brilliance – he has the talent. However, I’ve read people here imply he doesn’t have the talent to be an NHL goaltender. A number one? Who knows, I doubt it. But saying he can’t be an NHL goalie seems to go too far in my book. He never got AHL time and was thrown into the fire of a terrible, terrible, ATROCIOUS team. Which goalies moving from Europe to the NA right away put up great numbers of a 28th place team?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
You’d be hard pressed to find many people here that don’t think Gustavsson’s readiness for NA hockey was misjudged. That said, the Leafs stuck with him when he should have been in the AHL. Just because he wasn’t ready for the NHL doesn’t mean he didn’t have talent. I don’t think Ben Scrivens or Mark Owuya are ready for the NHL, but they have talent.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Our other option was Toskala, IIRC. Or Giguere. It hardly matters, the numbers spoke for themselves.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
and until Giggy got here in 2010, Gus has the best save percentage on a terrible, awful, no good, very bad team.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like a Brian Elliot hot streak to me. Though Brian Elliot’s hot streak might last an entire season this time.
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"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
Might already be over. For the first 11 1/3 games he only allowed 15 goals and he’s allowed 19 goals in the last nine. Of course, that’s still a GAA of 2.11, as opposed to 1.32
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"Ville Leino may stink but he’s still way better than Matt Ellis."
Statements which were made when:
Gus was not an NHL calibre goalie;
Gus was playing absolutely awful; and
Gus didn’t deserve to play.
What is this proving? Do you and VRN want some award for keeping faith in what was a marginal goaltender? Congratu-fucking-lations.
Nobody’s unhappy Gus is playing better; everybody was just recognizing the odds of it happening weren’t high. If I cared about his up to date stats after every game I can go to NHL.com, hockey-reference.com, or hockeydb.com or any of the other million sites on the Internet where that information is readily available.
All you guys are ensuring is that if things turn south again everyone here will ensure you eat an extra helping of crow by being obnoxious about it.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t really care if people attack my views, debate is good. No need to be so touchy about it. I’m not that insecure in my views that I need validation, but I do like to discuss and debate.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I’m bored by getting a daily update about how awesome Jonas Gustavsson’s stats are if you ignore the worst part of his body of work, and it’s super fun to engage in reductio ad absurdium to try and goad VRN into a rant.
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he’s playing well now. If Reimer were playign well, we’d all be discussing him too. That’s what we do.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
this is the problem: we’re in this vicious loop. everyone seems to hate me talking about him all the time, yet every time I mention his name I get provoked into talking about him further, which seems to make people even less willing to accept arguments supporting him, which just provokes me even further.
basically we’re a fan base trolling each other about whether in fact our #2 guy is or isn’t worthy of such high praise as ‘he played well’.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
WHo hear said he didn’t play well or hasnt been playing well the last 2-3 weeks? Hmm?
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Everyone said that, but the point is that whenever VRN mentioned it, it would garner responses saying how much of a Gus lover he is and how he was rubbing it in everyone’s faces. Obviously he’s going to respond to that criticism, and that’s what starts the vicious cycle.
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Given monster’s SV% history – it will take a lot for him to repair the perception of him being a starter. First he needs to move his career SV% to match his current SV% and then some people will still require him to repeat next year. I think he is showing he is capable to be an NHL backup (.900 career goalie) and he may yet have upside.
Well that’s not entirely unreasonable is it? I’ve said this repeatedly this year: it doesn’t matter what any of us think of him. He needs to put up or shut up because his contract is up.
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
agree. When he plays like shit, he’s not an nhl goaltender. When he earns a shut-out, he didn’t face many quality chances.
He played well last night… No need to add a caveat of “he has played like shit for most of three years”. We all know this already, let’s just enjoy some quality goal tending while it lasts.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think the impact of injuries has been grossly underestimated
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, he lets in a bunch against Boston where the whole team doesn’t show up, but the argument is – two of the goals he had no chance on bu he should have had the other 3. Then when he stops all of them plus the ones he shouldnt, its good team defence.
Every goalie lets in bad goals, quite frequently too I would say, so too have 2 shutouts in 3 games is fairly remarkable, regardless of shot quality.
yeah its as if defense affects goaltending or something ridiculous like that.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
It seems people argue good defence affects goaltending positively, but bad bad goaltending makes defences look bad.
you people get it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
they affect one another, so you can have both bad defense and bad goaltending. And good defense and bad goaltending. It just depends on the kinds of shots let in and how the play developed.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
The Sabres were terrible last night. The Leafs have also cut way back on the penalties taken, which is huge.
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they really were. Gus was good and made key saves, but it wasn’t a barrage of great shots – Buffalo clearly has no finish now. I mean, they have $4.5 million Finnish, but not goal-scoring finish.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
right. Their best player was already hurt and had to leave the game, and their #1 center wasn’t in the lineup.
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I suspect we’ll see a much better effort in Buffalo.
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Maybe, but the Sabres have gotten almost no secondary scoring this year.
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With all their key guys out, they aren’t going to get primary scoring either. They’re pretty boned, if I were them I’d make a trade to get someone with finish or they might as well just give up on the season.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
If they lose on Friday, they’re probably done.
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The EC playoff field could be down to 10 teams by this weekend.
NYI, Carolina, Tampa, MTL already out. Buffalo close.
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Washington and Ottawa are going to be wild cards. Will Ottawa continue to win? Will Washington pull it together?
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What about Pittsburgh? They’re sinking.
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You mean the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Baby Pens?
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
We get them in a b2b at the end of the month. Hoping they’re still a mess by then.
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Staal and Neal will likely still be out. I don’t think Letang is close, and Crosby is nowhere close.
If we don’t beat Malkin + 3rd/4th line NHL’ers I’ll be disappointed
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I feel bad for them, they’ve succeeded without their 2 top players before….but their top 4? Nope. Of course, I dont feel bad for them when we play them….
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Neal is already back – his foot wasn’t broken after all…
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
no it was broken just not bad enough for him to sit out… probably just a hairline fracture
by WizardofNaz on Jan 11, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
they said it was a ‘bone bruise’
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I have one
I took my son paint balling for the first time last August and took a close range shot on my unprotected wrist. It still hurts and Doc called it a “deep bone bruise”.
Hockey players are tough.
by ChrisFromParadise on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what to think about Ottawa. They show no signs of collapsing this season, I think they make it in 6/7/8.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Murray apparently said that if Ottawa is in the playoffs at the deadline, he’ll look to add pieces. (But remains committed to building a young core)
I find this hilarious.
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I have a bad feeling about that game. So much trouble in Buffalo
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think Ubiquitous was saying that if Vanek sits then next game will be the 32nd straight game with a different line up. That is nuts.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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Hockey Gods’ retribution for worshiping false idols (Leino)?
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Ill-gotten gas fracking gains?
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
As of jan 1 they were 5th.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
the habs but Markov shouldn’t even count at this point.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
http://springingmalik.blogspot.com/2012/01/pain-game-201112-part-three.html
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
I wouldn’t read too much into stuff like that, but I thought Komi had a nice solid game last night.
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Komi was solid in both games.
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I’m taking this whooshing up with management.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
these kind of stats are so dumb. I remember hearing a lot about it with Colby as well. Turns out, the Leafs are about .500 without him in the lineup
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I take that back. Not dumb. Just misleading.
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During the past ten years, the Sabres have only ever made the playoffs when Mike Grier has been on the team.
Really.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
well thank god that guy retired
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Turns out Komi isn’t bad, he’s just been playing the wrong side for 3 years.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
You’re getting waaay ahead of yourself, here.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
I believe that was a joke.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Difficult to tell these days. Everyone’s giving Komisarek love.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
I am to the point that I think he is a reasonable $1 million #5-6 defenseman.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
i hate free agency.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t we all.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Glen Sather doesn’t seem to.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
its an addiction for him I think. Like smoking, no one ‘likes’ to smoke, but they just cant stop
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
And 3 more games against them this season. That’s 9 points in the standings. Whomever wins that best of 3 will likely knock the other out of the playoff picture.
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Need to turn it on against the Sens, though. We’re a better team than the one that’s shown up against them in all three games this year.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely buying tickets to the March 17th Leafs-Sens game (the one in Feb is sold out at reasonable prices).
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
if i had to bet on one thing for the 2nd half, it’s that Ottawa has to take a step back.
Eric Karlsson ain’t going to score 80 points, and they’re still giving up more goals than they’re scoring.
Florida has surprised and gotten Ws by winning low scoring games with good D. Ottawa’s doing it almost entirely on puck luck.
I don’t know if the Leafs OR Sens will make the playoffs, but i have every confidence the Buds will finish higher.
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I just want you to know I’m listening to the Yello song while reading this FTB.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 9:17 AM EST reply actions
Thank you to the lovely sleza for this
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Jan 11, 2012 9:18 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
Sit the fuck down!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
you wish to hurt my Russian friend Grabbo? I hurt you too.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
That was a thing of beauty when it went down. Afterwards it felt like something from the Outsiders. “Do it for Grabbo!”
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 11, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Bowen said last night Lindy Ruff just signed a 7-year extension.
Wilson got a 1-year extension and half the fanbase flipped the hell out…
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I have no idea why a team would sign a coach for that long – NONE. It’s a stupid, stupid move. If you’re going to extend, do it for a few years not 7.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Pegula: Look, Lindy, I’m having trouble agreeing to these terms of your extension. The team hasn’t been all that good as of late.
Ruff: Yes, but imagine if I was coaching a good team.
Pegula: SOLD! You want a bag with a money sign on it or plain?
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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Here’s your extension. One year for every consecutive road loss.”
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Heh, Rosie DiManno and Damien Cox do not constitute half the fanbase.
It seemed to me that many fans reacted before hearing it was only for a year, which most understand is barely severance pay for someone in Wilson’s position. It shouldn’t affect whether he could be fired.
Seven years for Ruff? That’s a bit nuts. I guess he’s the defining personality for the Sabres franchise.
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
wait Ruff just got extended?
but…what happens when Regier gets fired?
ha, kidding those guys have jobs for life.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
Wait, you LIKE it in Buffalo?
Okay, we have to lock this guy down!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Technically if we dont kill PKs (by not taking penalties) our PK doesnt improve.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
as does our ratio of games played to PPGs surrendered
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Looking forward
as we start to get healthier the depth on this team is going to open up to the point of Burke almost HAVING to make a trade if only to make enough room for everyone.
When Bozak comes back it will be simple enough to slide Lombo over to the wing on the 2nd or 3rd line and slide Crabb down to the 4th line with Brown and Steckel, with Boyce to the press box.
However when Liles comes back who do you kick out of that D-core. Phaneuf and Gunner are obviously safe. Komi has come back from injury and kept up his solid play. While others were hurt Franson showed why he was so highly regarded and pretty well locked up a spot imho. Wilson loves having Aulie with Phaneuf, and it seems to work well in keeping the whole Dcore balanced. Gardiner is already out of the lineup, but he still needs playing time too.
Army I think won’t be back this season, that is my gut feeling, but if he does come back that means someone else has to sit as well for the 3 games before he gets hurt again. Add in Frattin and Colborne in the minors and Depth is no issue, the issue is finding everyone playing time.
My guess is if we keep performing the way we are, we’ll make a trade for those “proven playoff perfomers” Burke likes (he said that’s partly why he got Lupul) – possibly trading some of our depth guys for other depth guys that fill a different role for us.
But my guess is it will be minor tweaking rather than a major trade – unless the trade is clearly in our favour (which isn’t likely, but hey, look at the Beach and Phaneuf deals, Burke can do miracles)
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
To be honest I don’t see Burke trading for any bottom 6 players unless he first loses a few of them to injury or trades them to upgrade the 2nd line wing. Think about who you’d replace and with whom. I can’t think of any top “bottom 6” type players who would be an upgrade on say Steckel or Lombardi who aren’t already on a contending team.
I think we’d all agree that the lineup (without a big trade for a star) would be set as:
Lupul-Bozak/Connolly-Kessel
Kuli-Grabo-_
Kadri-Connolly/Bozak-_
Brown-Steckel-_
with Mac, Lombardi and Crabb (Along with Boyce, Army if healthy, Frattin etc) all available for those 3 spots.
The reason I think its possible is because Burke has talked about proven playoff performers. yes, he wants to get to the post-season, but he also wants to do more than lose the first round (even if thats totally acceptable to us as a first step). I’m not saying he will, but I easily see a trade or two, potentially swapping some bottom 6 guys (e.g. we have too many centres when Bozie is back, so we can shift one to wing) for a role player we need.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said, there aren’t many options of “playoff performers” that aren’t already on the contenders. Because there isn’t much turnover from the playoff teams the last couple years and Florida signed everyone else, we can maybe get someone from Tampa, but is Dominic Moore better than Lombardi? Or maybe a Chad LaRose from Carolina, but there isn’t much available that is an actual wash let alone upgrade
by WizardofNaz on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying it will make sense, but Burke doesn’t always do things that “make sense” – he scouts guys for a long time and if he has a chance, pulls the trigger. He was eyeing Steckel since the end of last season. Who knows who he has been eyeing?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
In conclusion, I don’t think Burke sits back and does nothing.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
One of Bozak or Grabovski is out the door. I’m sure Burke would be willing to let just about anyone who wants him take Lombardi for a draft pick. Burke has been very clear that he wants to add “size” to the top 6. We still need a solid shut-down defender. I think the Leafs are going to be very active on the trade front in the next month and a half.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling Grabbo doesn’t go unless its for something sizeable back. Yes he is a UFA, but he has been day in, day out one of our best players. He’s solid defensively, he pots goals, can play PP, etc. If we’re in playoff position, you just don’t move a guy like that just because he’s going to UFA.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Right now our centres under contract for next season are:
Connolly
Bozak
Colborne
Lombardi
Steckel
Steckel plays 4th line and Lombardi can play the wing, but that still leaves us 3 centres and 3 lines. If we re-sign Grabbo, then we either need to move someone to the wing or leave Colborne in the AHL for another full season. We’ve already got lots of wingers though, so I doubt we’d move someone like Bozak there. I love Grabbo, but I honestly can’t see a situation in which he fits on next year’s roster unless we move Bozak instead, and I think Grabbo has way more trade value.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Or, alternately, we let Grabovski walk for nothing July 1, but given that this team isn’t a Cup contender I think that’s pretty bad asset management.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Burke has set the asset he gets is cap space, and you can disagree, but I think that’s his view. You don’t make your team worse before heading into the playoffs. If we trade him, we get something useful back, not picks or prospects that need a year or two.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Disagree. Burke’s traded expiring UFAs for picks before. I think Grabovski goes to Chicago for a 1st round pick and a prospect.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Alternatively we re-sign him and trade Bozak.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Noooo I don’t want to have to watch Grabbo play for Chicago!!!
(Unless we manage to steal Toews)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Burke isn’t trading Grabbo at the deadline, unless the Leafs are out of the playoffs. Not happening
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
or if he trades for another center, or if there is a stupid good offer on the table
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
well if there’s a stupid offer you take it and run, but I dont think anyone is desperate enough yet. Maybe in a month.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
It’s unlikley Burke isn’t trading trades Grabbo at the deadline, unless the Leafs are out of the playoffs. Not happening
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Who was that guy that we all wanted at the draft that Chicago ended up taking? Mark McNeill? Yeah, him and a 1st.
2 1sts for Grabbo? allow me to get out my lolerskatez
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
lollercopter? Why not bust out the first-class roflcopter instead?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Grabbo to Chicago makes a lot of sense, but honestly I’d rather re-sign Grabbo (as long the contract is reasonable). We are seriously going to miss his defensive game.
I mean if someone wants to overpay for him…
I just have a difficult time envisioning Burke trading him when he’s a key contributor going into the playoffs.
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I’ll definitely take an over-pay, and I think Burke would too. But my guess is that’s the only reason he goes this season.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Id like to see Grbbo stay, I think bozak’s skill set is easier to replace. grabbos wheels are too fast to take away from a team built on speed
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
We could very well see Burke extend Grabovski and defer this decision until the following season when Connolly, Bozak and Lombardi are all UFAs.
If Colborne wrestles away one of those centre jobs from one of those guys, so be it. I’m not opposed to having a ppg game guy in the AHL as a stalking horse for our top guys in the NHL.
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Colborne does have to prove himself still – he won’t just get a free job. So I don’t slot him in anywhere yet.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Assuming Grabbo’s willing to go for a shorter term. He has a very young family to think about.
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He turns 28 this season so he still has a lot of hockey left in him.
Four years seems like the right term.
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Five if it takes down the cost enough. His value as a defensive forward will probably remain until he turns 33.
What really sucks is we might not know about a cap rollback until august (although I imagine it will make all teams somewehat tentative).
if they roll back the cap they are idiots. They just increase it FFS!
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Increase RFA age.
Roll cap back to 60mil.
Allow teams to exceed cap by up to 15%, but with a dollar for dollar luxury tax. So as ot to screw middle and lower income teams, allow a partial refund of this tax if team revenues are below a certain threshold.
Done.
NHLPA will never allow this.
NHLPA will never allow this.
NHL Board of Governors will never allow this.
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Well sure
I’m trying to propose something that will actually balance the interests of players, big market teams, and small market teams.
And I fail to see why the NHLPA would reject rolling back the cap to 60mil, if we made it a soft cap by putting in a luxury tax. I’ve effectively raised the cap to 69million.
Why would the NHLPA ever want to limit the amount of money it’s members could earn?
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Again
The second and third effectively raise the cap, and encourage mid market teams to spend.
How does that limit the amount of money its members get?
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
KOMIKAZI!!
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He played well last night. Mean and nasty against forecheckers, keeping his head up and not throwing pucks into the middle of the ice, not chasing guys around the net like an idiot. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!
Komisarek was the best leaf at clearing the zone last night
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
aulie is clearly the weakest link on D
Komi and Franson have earned jobs. Gunnar Phaneuf are our 2 best. And Schenn’s the golden boy (maybe doesn’t deserve it yet but the franchise has put thier faith in him)
When Liles comes back, Aulie’s gonzo
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I thought Aulie played his best game last night, but then agian, it was against Buffalo
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one game
but sure. I’m just saying, when i look at who i want to have going out there on a consistent basis, he’s at the bottom.
Gunnar Phaneuf against the top line
Schenn Liles
Komi Franson
I am more than happy with that
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Agree 100%
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If the Leafs make the playoffs, my fear is that Schenn will get eaten alive.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Possibly, but it’s also a chance to step up. We’ve never seen him in the playoffs, who knows.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
There’s a lot of people on the team who we’ve never seen in the playoffs… it’ll hopefully be an interesting test to see who responds well to the pressure if we make it
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
that’s probably what I’m most excited for after PLAYOFFS>!. See who can really step up their game.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I seriously hope that it turns out that Reimer is some sort of Osgood-like uber-playoff goalie… bold prediction right there
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
BFD
Anything that happens in the spring I’m chalking up to a learning experience.
For about 3/4 of this team a playoff game this April will be their first.
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Not with that attitude.
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by JP Nikota on Jan 11, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They both got the titles wrong as well.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Gardiner?
I want Gardiner in instead of Komisarek. He may be a rookie, but he’s better.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 11, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
they don’t play the same styles at all. It’s not really either/or between them.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I love Darryl Boyce. The guy is replacement level and I’m pretty sure he knows it. He plays every shift like its his last one tho and I love it
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Better him than Dupuis – by a long, long mile.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Why Dupuis got the spot over him in October, I will never know.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
It still makes no sense. It was clear ~10-15 games in he was going to be useless. Not a good forechecker, he played PK but we had a league worst, and he scored less than Colton Orr (who played 4 games)
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
He was our Scott Gomez. Minus, y’know, the hilariously ridiculous contract.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Because they signed him as a FA. The Leafs weren’t going to sign a guy and then have him not make the team. What they should’ve done was give him a tryout contract. I doubt the lineup for Dupuis was very long
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
when Burke wants a guy, he signs them. When was the last tryout contract given to a non-prospect?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I mean it doesn’t make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. The guy made a minimal salary and never actively hurt the team as far as I could tell. He was just kind of there.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 11, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
He didn’t hurt the team, he was just relatively useless.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Totally
Huge Boyce fan right here.
Speaking of which, his, Brown, and Steckel’s zone shift numbers are orgasmic.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Brown scared the crap out of me dangling around 3 Buffalo players in front of the net. But yeah, love having him back.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t believe what that 4th line is doing. Love them (for a 4th line).
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Them and our Thirst line are really bringing it.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
mmmm….love me some fourst
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
what are we? The avalanche? 4 1st lines?
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
yea… i got it
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Caught his winger in the dinger.
/othermcguiresayingswehaveyettohear
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
His Compete/60 is pretty high.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I find his HRDWRK index to be real high as well.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Would Boston and Vancouver just make out already?
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by clrkaitken on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
It went from cool feud imagine them in the finals again to JUST DIE ALREADY BOTH OF YOU
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If you’ve ever watched Community this analogy will make sense
There’s an episode in the middle of the first season where Anthony Michael Hall is a guest star as a bully around school whom Jeff (the central character) stands up to, leading to an inevitable fight at the end of the episode. Throughout the episode Brita (one of the other main characters) keeps making jokes that the only reason men fight is to release homosexual tendencies (the best joke is when the fight is about to begin and Hall and his cronies all rip off their shirts, and Brita comments “Come on, I’m being punked, right?”)
That’s kinda where I’m at with Boston and Vancouver.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 11, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
“give me a winterdoodle”
“if you want to sound tough stop calling the cookie by its name”
by WizardofNaz on Jan 11, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
great episode
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
What since when?
Is this why i haven’t seen anything new since Christmas?
I must say though, season 1 was the best; so fresh!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Funny you should mention that….
/shamelessselfpromotion
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
You used “monosyllabic” where you meant “polysyllabic”.
Otherwise, good article.
by LeafInVancouver on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I noticed that too, but didn’t have the heart to tell him.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
1) Fight on the playground
2) Call each other names
3) Date in high school, have kids before graduation, and move to a trailer park.
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by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
i’m learning to loathe Boston more and more, but honestly, this Vancouver/Boston rivalry is ridiculous.
it hought Vancouver was supposed to “hate” Chicago. Now it’s Boston?
I guess the Canucks are just destined to go around starting “rivalries” with teams that beat them when it matters
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when it matters
The only teams that beat them in November were MIN, STL, ANA, and CHI. So I don’t see why they’re hating on Boston then.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
The fact people blame Price for their woes kills me
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he’s swiss. so yes?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
oh yeah. who was their swiss goalie?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
He was also ours
Martin Gerber.
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The Leafs have had nothing but Swiss goalies the past few seasons.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Well, we did have a goalie that was Finnish’d in the NHL on our team.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Raycroft was a Canuck who was an Avalanche of trouble Bruin, but now he seems to be a Star backup.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Budaj
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
that’s the guy.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Even if he wasn’t, I don’t think that most Swiss know both French and Swiss German. Many do, I’m sure, but that’s not been my experience.
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Switzerland also has Italian and Romansh as official languages. I think most Swiss players are German or French speakers though.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
My cousins are from Switzerland. They’re fluent in German, French, English and know a bit of Italian.
Swiss schools teach both German and French, and depending where you are in the country the typical language spoken might be German, French or Italian.
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Yeah, but every school in Canada teaches both English and French.
Doesn’t mean much, necessarily.
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also certain Europeans countries tend to teach other language much better than we do- look at the Scandinavian countries where their English is on average really, really, impressive.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen the Swedish chef don’t you dare tell me he speaks good English
by WizardofNaz on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
The scandanavian countries speak much better english than most of the other European countries.
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they’re doing something right from an educational standpoint.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I confess to be speaking somewhat from personal experience.
A good friend of mine is Swiss French. She speaks 4 languages, but she learned High German, not Swiss German.
Also, each time I’ve been there, no one in Swiss German towns was able to speak to me in French.
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It’s a regional dialect thing.
Areas of SUI closer to the France border tend to speak French, closer to the Germany border speak German, closer to the Italy border they speak Italian.
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Like most European countries.
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wow you mean there is a bleeding effect on languages as people from one country move into another? SHOCKING!
But this also happens in Canada. Look at the places near Quebec like Ottawa and New Brunswick. They have higher rates of Biligual people than say Windsor or BC
by WizardofNaz on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
My Swiss friend in university told me it was mostly German. With like 30% French speakers near the French border.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone seen this on Puck Daddy?
Classy or not, that is the best off-ice hockey video we’ll see all week, probably all month.
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obligatory gustavsson stat:
in games not against Boston (the team with the +70 goal differential) gus has a .917 SV%, which puts him closer to 20th.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions
yup
and really, if you take out the Boston games for the skaters, EVERYBODY’s stats look pretty damn good this year :)
Could it be? We actually have a good team?
Boston just has their number. As well as the rest of the league’s.
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Could it be? We actually have a good team?
quite possibly. our goal differential would be like +15 without those Boston games. Kessel’s worst games have come against Boston.
it’s kind of scary how good they are. if they don’t repeat this season it will be by the hand of god alone.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
God’s just setting them up to punk them Book of Job style. He’s already done it to the Red Sox. Patriots will come third. Hubris: the sin of Boston.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Yeah Boston looks like it’s going to destroy everyone. Our only hope is a team drags them to 7 games, somehow a few key players get injured and they get beaten in a second 7 game series or something to that effect. They were 1 goal away from losing to Montreal last year…..
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hrm. This is a bit misleading.
You’re in the social sciences, so I don’t have to tell you that if you want to discount outliers you need to remove them from each end. Say we remove two games from each extreme, 7-0 and 6-2 against Boston, 4-0 against Winnipeg and 7-1 against Tampa. Our goal differential changes by 1. The Boston games aren’t any less typical than those against Winnipeg or Tampa.
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
sort of, except that in the sciences/social sciences you assume that your data is normally distributed, and homogeneity of variance, etc.
if boston represents a true outlier then the performance is bimodal rather than uniform. removing those outliers in a sense ‘normalizes’ the data (for those samples that fall within the normal distribution).
based on goal differential Boston is a crazy outlier (the next team below them has +36, a difference of 34. They’re like at least 3 SD above the mean.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, naturally, there’s a bit more to it, as you say.
But my point is that the Boston games are not unusual outliers for the Leafs this season… they get blown out occasionally, but they are also capable of blowing teams out. Given that, removing only the worst scenario doesn’t seem like it will produce any useful information.
Maybe I’m tripping up on some ingroup counter-sniping, in any case :)
Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
gd = sum of binomial trials i'd assume.
4.8 SD above the mean if you discount team talent.
Conversely, the Blue Jackets are 2.6 SD below the mean.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
< 3 SD is fair game.
> 4.5 SD : “what the fuck happened to my equipment this data is fucked??!!”
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
22-11-5 against Not Boston.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
if you take out the games where Reimer lost, he would be undefeated
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I’ve been wondering where reductio ad absurdum went.
there it is.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
also
you people are so easy to goad on.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to see the Eastern Conference goal differentials re-done with games against Boston removed for everyone, but I haven’t had time to do it myself.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
someone did it for the leafs. it’s quite phenomenal the difference.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
basically Boston destroys almost everyone.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Here is an insightful article about Leaf fans entitled “Why I just don’t get Toronto Maple Leafs fans”.
Just kidding. It’s typical bullshit.
Then why did you read it/link it?
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That license plate is great though. Never seen it before.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“Score 50 and we’ll talk”
I hope there’s a superstar in the NHL this year. :(
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
In the interest of full disclosure, let me start off by saying that I don’t know a whole lot about hockey.
And stopped reading.
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by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
In all fairness, he’s from Ireland. Maybe we can plaster his blog/apartment/office/car with Owen Nolan stats/pictures/highlights, etc.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
psh, there’s hockey in Ireland.
this article is like me writing about Soccer.
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…And i’m sure I can find a hockey fan somewhere in the heart of the Congo. I’m betting hockey in Ireland is not that big.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Funny you say that, I was watching a Belgian documentary on the Congo (Au-dela des Tenebres, really good) and one guy was wearing a Leafs shirt. It was really surreal.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Played in Dublin once.
Never been so drunk after a game in my life.
Best – probably only sober player DURING the game. Scored from my own blueline. (Helluva shot.)
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
lots of people in here give opinions on soccer even tho I’m sure most know nothing about the sport
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quite a few people here watch the premier league if I’m not mistaken. I’m a Ligue 1 guy though, having lived in France. I did sort of play rep soccer for numerous years, as many Canadians have (it’s the biggest played sport in Canada, I do believe)
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Do you know of any good podcasts to follow for soccer?
I know you’re primarily a Serie A guy.
I tried listening to the guys from the Score but they annoy me after too long.
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I dont listen to many podcasts to be honest
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same
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Dear Irish person, I know literally nothing about the Protestant-Catholic conflict in your country, but I will spend the next hour or so telling you why you’re wrong.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, Israel and Palestine, knock it off.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
North Korea, South Korea, can’t you two kids see you have so much in common?
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by elseldo on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
India and Pakistan why can’t you just be friends?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They should just make out already…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Stopped reading at the “i’m not much of a hockey fan” part
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Alternate title :
Why I don’t understand Sports.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Context
.939
.868
.667
.926
.946
.951
.969
.909
.942
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
That’s a nine game stretch from Vesa Teskala from 2/7/08 to 3/3/09, before he was injured.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
.667
There’s the Toskala we know and love, hate, despise
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
he was pulled in that game after 16 minutes, so that number is misleading.
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Oh. Sounds like it could have been a full game Toskala performance as well. I’d believe it.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
He was a pretty good goalie … for that stretch of games.
6 above average, 1 average and only 2 poor outings in 9. That’s better than decent.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
right.
The point I’m trying to make is that even bad goalies are capable of runs of 8, 10, even more games where they put up good numbers.
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when you’ve run out of arguments, just compare him to Toskala
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Jonas Gustavsson has to be the reincarnation of Georges Vezina or a steaming pile of dung. There is no possible way for him to be anywhere in between.
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At last – we all agree.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
birky’s not saying Gustavsson is as bad as Toskala. birky’s saying that Toskala, a much worse goalie than Gustavsson, put together ten great games once.
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there are a million different scenarios for explaining Gustavssons’s current performance. one of them could be that he’s a measurably improved goalie. one is that he’s a middling goalie in the midst of good streak. i’m not sure anyone really doubts the latter is a very real possibility.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’d buy 50/50.
He looks a lot less “scrambly” in the net lately. I just wonder if that’s confirmation bias in that I don’t think he looks scrambly because pucks aren’t going in the net.
Or similarly do we think he looks improved because he hasn’t let in a floater from the top of the circles in a month-ish?
Again, I think he looks better in net. If he settles down into a .910 goaltender that’s pretty fucking good compared to what we’ve had for more than half a decade.
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Defense bailed him out a few times over the past week – not that it would ahve meant a goal, but sometimes he’d kick out a rebound to the middle and they’d clear it before it got shot back at him. That said, he was almost always in position to make the save again despite those odd bad rebounds, i think some more games will clarify whether its the real deal.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Previously, even when he had good results, he seemed to be moving around in the crease a lot. He is in much better position. Sure it could be confirmation bias, but he seems to be much more economical with his movements and rarely loses his net any more.
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That’s been the Gustavsson hallmark: his rapid footwork let him make ridiculous acrobatic diving saves across the net, but his rapid footwork meant he didn’t settle down and make simple stops he should have.
If someone wants to pour over video and determine if he’s really being more economical with his footwork it’d probably be enlightening.
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I would say ask goalie guild but he is more biased than VRN
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I’m so torn on Goalie Guild. He obviously knows the position but goes on maniac rants about his dreams and confidence and stuff.
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There’s no better source for depth charts. Those sheets alone are amazing. But his inability to be critical prevents his scouting from being beneficial. I think the worst he’s ever said about someone is that they “need to work on” something.
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is there a good source for team depth charts beyond goalies?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
I played goal. I don’t like goalies who don’t stop tons of pucks.
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the day you realized you weren’t going to make it to the NHL did you become self-loathing?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
No, I watched post-lockout Belfour, Raycroft and Toskala for too long.
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i think i’ve forgotten what good goaltending looks like. it’s the only explanation…
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
JS Aubin, Telqvist, Kidd….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Gerber, Giguere, Joseph…
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of which
Gustavsson is now up to #4 in Maple Leafs single-season SV% since the lockout.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
He’s #3 in cumulative S% of goalies who played 25 GP for us.
It is a truly sad sack group.
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Joseph gets a pass for how he played on his first go through
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Grumble grumble grumble CuJo grumble
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
True. But Chico Resch, Darren Pang, and Kevin Weekes have never badmouthed another goalie on air ever.
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I feel like they are a pretty tight group.
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I’d say its the toughest position on the team. There’s two of you, and when you fail everyone knows you failed. When players screw up badly, it doesn’t always end up in the net.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
His love for Osgood…
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Considering I tend to deny that the last four years of Curtis Joseph’s career ever happened, I get where that’s coming from.
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Yeah, I’ve been suprised when some teams were shooting low on him…I was thinking “you’re not going to beat him low pad-side, buddy, he can cover the whole bottom of the net”
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is they were hoping for wonky rebounds, which he is known for.
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has he switched pads this season?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
last year
he was using Reebok, this year he’s using Warrior? is that possible?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
i know it's a sales job
but on the warrior pads from their website:
liding toe bridge allows the pad to be worn snug at the toe creating a more responsive feel while allowing the full range of movement for the for the skate to drop to the ice during a butterfly
Squared-up design creates a complete seal across the ice when in a butterfly
Thin thigh profile allows the tops of the pads to overlap each other when in your stance and moving on your feet, thus increasing mobility
Exclusive “table top boot construction” allows the boot to sit and move on top of your skate, increasing mobility and coverage
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
can someone ask @mirtle for me?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
oh the kids today with their twitter, don’t make me yell at you and shake my fist (I have twitter but have never used it, one day I will, but probably only for hockey and/or humourous political commentary.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ignore all that shit, NHL goalie pads are essentially custom.
They say Warrior, they could be anyone’s pads with Warrior graphics. They could be made by Warrior but completely custom to mimic someone’s pads. Etc.
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Yes, he switched pads. He was in the Reeboks last year, but both Reeboks and the warriors he’s in now are hard-faced, stiff pads. I haven’t used either, but having seen ‘em, there’s not much of a difference between this year’s pads and last years. Changes in his form and use of the butterfly are probably more to credit than his pads. He’s narrowed it, a little, and uses the “blocking” style a lot more – it’s cut down on the between-the-arm-and-chest goals lately, though all the previously mentioned “can he sustain it?” questions apply there.
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i agree they look like similar pads from where I’m sitting. but i wonder whether some secondary feature has led to better mobility which has led to better positioning.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Any pro nhl-er can get whatever mods they want done, so it’s usually a case of just picking a brand name (which is chosen via “who pays me the most?”). Sliding toe bridge isn’t new, and you could get it done wherever, but Warrior seems pretty excited about the options and flexibility that their new pad offers. Realistically, the only “change” that might’ve come in the equipment is that Jonas found a new strapping that he likes. I doubt it would be responsible for a significant improvement in SVP.
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i still think someone (Mirtle) should just ask him.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like an interesting project.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
if anything, the confirmation bias has disappeared. he’s no longer a sub .890 goalie, so suddenly every goal he lets in isn’t a ‘bad goal’.
he’s definitely less scrambly and in better position. he had that going for him earlier in the season and at stretches in the past, but he still let in one or two two many goals with regularity (even if they weren’t bad, he just needed to stop more pucks).
suddenly those extra goals are gone. not sure if it’s positioning or confidence or luck or what. but i would argue he’s been this good before, but he’s never stopped as many pucks this consistently before.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
There’s no difference between “good” and “stops lots of pucks” for a goalie.
Full stop.
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just say no to boxscore analysis.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
What objective criteria were you using to determine Gustavsson was good but not getting breaks?
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my eyes.
/Locke’d
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
coffeebreaks/60
oh, nm…
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
i would argue he’s been this good before, but he’s never stopped as many pucks this consistently before.
I honestly don’t understand this distinction. Can you explain?
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as in it possible to be ‘good’ but not get the breaks.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
No it’s not, good goalies never have bad seasons. EVER. And bad goalies never have amazing seasons.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Mason would like a word with you.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Just adding the explanation mark to your sarcasm sir.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
That is possible, sure. But a definition of good which defies results is very difficult to argue against, and hence isn’t really provable, yes?
If he was still scrambling around like Curtis Joseph and getting the results he’s getting, I’d accept that it was just luck—but to these eyes, he seems like a different goalie. That leads me to the explanation that he’s simply playing better, possibly due to real improvement in his abilities.
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It could be, that’s not birky’s argument though so the “reductio” calls are incorrect.
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At this point I just enjoy bugging VRN about it.
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i suppose i brought this on myself, but what will you guys talk about when wilson is fired and Gus is gone?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
How bad Scrivens/Rynnas is and how much we hate Ken Hitchcock or whoever.
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And fart jokes.
We’ll never not talk about fart jokes.
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Gnomez jokes probably will reign until he’s either bought out or…..no that’s really it.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
They’ll just be replaced by “Ville Lame-o” jokes amirite?
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still running with Finnish jokes….as in, Buffalo’s got no finish, but they do have 4.5 million worth of Finnish.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Better Context
Leafs woooooo
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 10:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions 9 recs
This escalation of wooing is getting out of hand!
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
,
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by elseldo on Jan 11, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Has that guy died of skin cancer yet?
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
He’d better hope he doesn’t get any kind of cancer, because there’s no way he has any savings to pay for his health care.
its true. hes broke from several lawsuits.
Which is why I got to meet him for autographs and a handshake at a RIng of Honour event in Toronto for $15. A legend like Flair isnt at a ghetto hockey arena in scarborough signign autographs at a 2nd rate wrestling event if he isnt desperate for cash.
Ditto for Bret Hart. Only reason he went back to WWE, he’s broke.
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Still crazy that Pro Wrestlers don’t have a Union.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
also why Bret hart was the Genie in a stage production of Aladdin a couple christmases ago.
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seeing those posters in Pizza Pizza was pretty wierd
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve all seen the 30 in 30 on Scott Hall, right?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t gotten around to watching it, but I remember his name trending on Twitter the night it ran and just assuming he had died.
He is still alive, but, oh man.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
i did not know this existed.
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It’s gut wrenching stuff.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know who that is, and the last time I cared about wrestling I was about 12 years old.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Razor Ramon.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I still don’t know who that is. I remember the Undertaker and the Broods or whatever vampire gimmick that was, and then the NWO in the WCW. I remember Sting too and a few others from WCW vs. NWO or whateveer N64 game that was.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Scott Hall was a founding member of the NWO.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Alcoholism I think.
But that was later. He was in the NWO for it’s entire glory period, so I cant beleive you dont remember him. He’s the guy who tazered Goldberg for chrissake.
I was like 12, I only watched it when they showed repeats of monday/thursday night or whatever. never watched PPV.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
i always saw PPV’s at someone else’s house. /moocher
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who would ever get wrestling on PPV?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
kids whose parents have good jobs…but back when I was a big fan there was only 5 per year.
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or parents who had unscrambled box
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I was a HUGE fan, but I didnt know anyone who either had the unscrambled box or bought the PPVS. TO this day the only PPVs ive seen live are ones ive gone to. WM 18 and a couple In Your House PPVS
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I never appreciated how much his paretns were paying for us at the time. It was always a big night and sleepover with like 6 of us.
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Except Wrestlemania is in April, you mean Summerslam?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I went to a WCW thing in Toronto. I think Bret Hart won the championship.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
yea, he beat Sting then Benoit in a mini tournament at the PPV at ACC
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
that was the one I went to. I was 13 years old I think, my last year as a real wrestling fan.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Its been tougher to stay interested in todays storylines as ive gotten older… pretty much after WM 18 in Toronto I started to lose interest. I still mark out for the games and documentaries and tidbits of news on the guys I grew up with but I couldnt care less about John Cena, or the Miz or whoever the new guys are.
because IM AWESOMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEE
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
man the one on the 1-2-3 Kid would be even worse i imagine.
A buddy from high school recently quit being a pro wrestler before “he became the sad story.”
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Yeah, there are enough sad stories of guys who had made it. Can’t imagine what happens to the one’s who never do.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
he had a tryout contract with the WWE, did a couple TV appearances but nothing panned out.
Was wrestling in Japan when the Earthquake hit last year (year before?)
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I just never got it. It seemed like a career for people who loved to be fit and athletic and also were act in a way that stayed within the confines of stupid stereotypes.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Beyond the Mat did an alright job showing off the life of the wrestler who never made it/fell from popularity
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There was a documentary about steroids called ‘Bigger, Stronger, Faster’. One of the segments was on a wrestler that had a cup of coffee in the WWE, didn’t pan, eventually killed himself. Sad story, but a good doc.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
That’s also the documentary in which Christian Boeving got himself fired from his MuscleTech sponsorship deal by admitting to steroid use … because no other MuscleTech athlete uses steroids.
If you’re familiar with the story of Jake “The Snake” Roberts at all, it’s striking how similar it is to Scott Hall’s. Sad how these things keep repeating.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Jake was the product of a rape of a 12-year-old girl, and his sister was murdered, with her body never found. Jake is the winner for “most pathetic and inexplicably still alive”.
that is pretty horrible
Kelsey Grammer also has had it pretty bad
In 1968 his father, whom he had seen only twice since his parents’ divorce, was shot and killed.3 In 1975 his younger sister, Karen, was abducted, raped, and murdered.7891011 In 1980 his twin half-brothers died in a scuba diving accident, and in 2001 David Angell, close friend and producer of Frasier, died in the 9/11 attacks.1213
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
im assuming i can find a torrent for it or something,. I must watch this
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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nice thanks dude
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Grantland recently ran a ridiculously thorough expose of Flair’s financial troubles.
The funny part is that after all his fines and asset seizures and living large beyond his means, someone talked him into thinking it would be a good idea to start a company called Ric Flair Finance. As I’ve said before, this is like opening the Amy Winehouse Rehab Centre.
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Sabres have to finish worse than 15-27 to have any chance of a lottery pick.
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You guys? the Flyers are doing well this year!
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Coming from Leaf fans, that’s kinda the pot calling the kettle black.
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I was thinking more the fact that we don’t have Seguin, but sure that works too.
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PHIL KESSEL
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I make that trade 10 times out of 10, this season or not. It got us an elite goalscorer to build our team around – who isnt even in his prime.
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Phil Kessel? Phil Kessel.
Maybe it’s just a lack of exposure, but I’m starting to believe he’s becoming one of the better passers in the league.
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Perhaps the best thing about Phil Kessel is that he isn’t even near his peak.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
goal scorers actually tend to peak around age 24q
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24 seems way too young for a peak to me. I don’t really buy it. 27-28? That I could see as being more likely. Most players dont even break into the league until they’re 21/22.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Players peak points-wise around 27. Goal scoring peaks around 24.
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Goal scorers tend to peak in their goal scoring at 24-25. Points at 27 or so.
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Points peak at 25, at least according to what I’ve read.
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How does that curve look for maybe all-stars like Kessel?
by stevesmith19 on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Either way, whenever he peaks: he hit 30+ on the way up, so he’ll hit 30+ on the way down.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Always the same... but
Its an average. Some players peak later and some peak sooner…. substantially.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
I had the thought that if the Pens injury issues continue and it looks like Crosby isn’t coming back, they should tank, pick Yakupov and be able to run a 1st line of Kunitz-Crosby-Yakupov with a Neal-Malkin-_ 2nd line when all there players are healthy.
Not that they’re bad enough to get a lottery pick, just had that thought
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Pittsburgh would never tank.
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by Chemmy on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Its too late anyway, there’s no way they can catch Columbus spotting them a 10-win lead.
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Pens complete remarkable second-half turnaround, thanks largely to four wins against the Toronto Maple Leafs and a suprising 30 goal season from suddenly-kind-of-a-nice-guy Matt Cooke.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
we just won four in a row, I won’t allow such negativity! They already went on a miracle-lost-both-our-best-players run last year. No more!
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Stan Mikita racked up more than 100 PIMs four times; then, when his daughter asked why he was in the box so much, he cleaned up his act and went on to win two Byngs. Basically, he made a face turn.
Could it be possible that Cooke will be the modern Stan Mikita?
No.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
They’ve already played them once right? So, 3 more games?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
and that gets a rec
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
unless of course attendance was down and a generational superstar was guaranteed in the draft
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Fun fact: Pittsburgh’s tanking actually failed because they lost the Alex Ovechkin lottery despite finishing last in the league, luckily they held another lottery for Sidney Crosby which the Penguins rigged won.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
I’d take Malkin as a consolation prize anyday. It was a pretty safe year to tank.
by YakovMironov on Jan 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
they are still dumb for takign Jordan Staal instead of Toews, Backstrom or Kessel
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
but I guess were dumb for drafting Tlusty instead of Claude Giroux =/
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I still don’t know what made us pick Tlusty that high. IMO, never draft a player from a Euro league with your first round pick that isn’t considered unbelievably good.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
it's similar to Montreal's problem, them not picking
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
That’s called " pulling a Cereda ".
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by GreatKingRat on Jan 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Why tank when you can just bribe Gary Bettman to rig the draft lottery?
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by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
They rigged the draft the same way Montreal did in the expansion – by using the rules to give them the advantage.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
One lottery ball was subtracted from each team that was awarded the first overall pick, which means pittsburgh didn’t lose one for drafting first overall the previous year because it was Florida’s pick.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
That is correct. Either way Pittsburgh can go fuckin themselves. Same with the fans.
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Not only that, here's what they traded to get it:
The Florida Panthers trade the first pick (Marc-Andre Fleury) and 73rd pick (Daniel Carcillo) to the Pittsburgh Penguins for the third pick (Nathan Horton), the 55th pick (Stefan Meyer) and Mikael Samuelsson.
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A friendly reminder
Ottawa has a negative goal differential and we have two games in hand on them. Plus, seeing them win is just hilariously screwing up their rebuild, so no need to get upset about it.
Also, BOTH Gustavsson AND the defence played great last night. Those two events are not mutually exclusive, the defence CAN help goalies have a better game, just like goalies CAN help the defence play better too.
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by Bobby Paradise on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Well done
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Their suck numbers are really high though, it’s just their underperforming in that category at present.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
they’re. Damnit, I hate making that mistake.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also the leafs PDO is higher then Ottawa (both leaf SH% and SV% are higher then ottawa) – meaning the leafs have been luckier YTD if you subscribe to the PDO regression
we make up for it with our great AWE percentage (% of team that is Awesome) though, where Ottawa does really, really poorly.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
And they play an extra game this month. We’ll have three games in hand on Feb 1st
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by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
They all count the same, have to be ruthless this month.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh indeed. We’re playing down-and-out teams a lot, so I stay we step on their heads all the way up the standings.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
He’s out having Tim Bits.
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by Frag on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my god did someone give him pancakes this morning?!?!
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Penner’d
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
As awesome as Twitter is, I think this is a case where we maybe get more information than we need more quickly than we need it. Players miss practices, start practice late, etc.. A couple of years ago no one would have cared.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
something that occurred to me yesterday: not only did Twitter not exist the last time the Leafs were in the playoffs, but Facebook was a mere 2 months old.
either it’s been a really, really long time, or the world is changing at an alarming pace.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Facebook would have had to been older than that. I got it my freshman year of college and I remember watching the Leafs – Flyers series in 2004 on my sophomore year couch.
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Wiki says it launched at Harvard in Feb. 2004 and then in March 04 it hit the Ivy League schools, BU, MIT, and Stanford.
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It then went school-wide by mid-2005, though. I didn’t get Facebook until October 2005, and I was one of the early ones of people I know.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I got it in August 2005 to get pictures from my camp friends. I was pretty late for people I knew.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Eh, looking at wikipedia I guess I misremembered. Definitely seem to remember Facebook in the dorms (which I only lived in one year).
Maybe I was hanging out in the dorms with other friends or something.
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i had it at UofT by late 2004. it spread pretty quickly.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I had it in March 2004. :smug:
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When Facebook was a month old it was still pretty exclusive, so you knew whoever you were talking to went to BU, MIT or Harvard.
You could browse for smokin’ hot chicks and send them messages like “Hey I like too. Wanna grab a cup of coffee on Friday?”
I don’t even drink coffee, but holy shit did we all get laid.
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even the engineers?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Beats me, I don’t hang out with engineers.
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?
i thought you were one for some reason.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I am in the sense that I have an engineering degree. I didn’t go to class or spend time with engineers in college so I can’t tell you what they did.
I hung out with art school kids, and hockey people.
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i dropped it by 2007. :more smug:
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Cripes, have me beat by about 6 months. It did take a while to hit Canada though. I think it was late ’06 maybe? I still remember throngs of my friends from elementary/junior high in Canada suddenly friending me in fall of 2006.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
You’re doomed. Means one of his joints has likely melted and he’ll be out 6,000 years.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
Just to keep up on your rumor-of-the-week, Phili’s checkin’ us out.
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Schenn for Schenn?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
No. The Leafs have been after James van Riemsdyk for a while.
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that was actually what I suspected. that or Bob.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn + Gus + pick for JVR + Bob.
The flyers would have two Schenns and two Gustav(f)ssons.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
If the Schenns are going to be on the same team it will be OUR team
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 11, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I could see Burke driving for Carle, too. I assume he plays left side as a left shot, and he’s UFA at the end of the season.
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Unsurprising, considering the potential career ending injury to Pronger and the impending UFA status of Matt Carle.
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Not sure there’s a match between us, at least if a big name like Schenn is involved. The players we’d want from Philly (Giroux, Carle, Coburn) are players they’d be crazy to get rid of. Possible there’s a smaller deal in the works for role players.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Giroux?
At this point I wouldn’t trade Giroux for Ovechkin or Crosby.
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That’s my point. The players on the Flyers who actually fill are needs are guys the Flyers wouldn’t trade.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno. I don’t think you walk away from a stacked team like that.
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I’m not sure they do unless they’re planning to get rid of Kulemin, MacArthur, or Kadri. The team is actually pretty deep at W right now, and adding another 20 goal/40 point guy doesn’t seem like a real upgrade.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
If the deal was Schenn for JVR straight up I guess I wouldn’t be against it, but this team’s biggest need right now is on defence, with goaltending possibly being a long-term need as well pending Reimer’s development. After that, a long term #1C is our next biggest hole. Adding another winger who can score isn’t what this team needs to get better.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Come on. Aim higher.
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
If the deal was JVR for Schenn I’d take it and run away laughing.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hee hee hee hee heeeee
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would be worried about doing a straight JVR for Schenn, JVR is locked in at 4.25 through to 2018. Schenn’s Cap hit is more reasonable based on the way the two are playing for today. If we take JVR I think we should be getting back a bit more.
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I do worry we’ll trade Schenn, he’ll become a beast and punish our team every time we play against him.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
You’re kidding me right?
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Oh man if we got JVR, oh baby.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I like him, I have no problems picking him up, but I do think his contract is long and a bit high based on two 40 or less point seasons, he makes a little over a million less than Kessel. Is he a big enough upgrade to be sending one our better trade chips the other way?
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Yes.
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I haven’t seen him enough to know, but he is only 22 years old and that’s around our core’s age.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
While he is young (22 I beleve) is threre enough evidence that he will become more than 40-50 point player. What does he project to 60pts+.
I also cannot say I have seen him enough to have a stong opinion on what he could become, but I do not want to trade Schen for another 40-50 point guy especially one that makes 4.25 million. If I have understeimated what his ceiling could be and am being to myopic than I concede.
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I’d need to know what kind of linemates he has and what his icetime is to make a more informed decision, alas I cannot do so at work.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
His goal scoring is great (there is a reason he was the #2 overall pick right after Kane). He is a big guy who can hit hard and his production at his age is pretty damn good.
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Age 23 and he’s over .6ppg this year
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he was pretty badass in the playoffs last year as well, until… y’know. Boston.
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
So was Sean Bergenheim.
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uh… ok?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
As recent as this pre-season, I thought the consensus around here was that JVRs contract was high based on Philly paying for potential rather than results. Has he performed that wel so far this season to all of a sudden warrant all this drooling? He’s on pace for 46pts.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
No, he’s definitely still considerably over-paid.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how overpaid he is. He took a long contract and gave up 3 years of UFA. If he took a two year contract this would have been too much money, but it was an appropriate gamble Philly made.
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With Bozak and Armstrong returning sometime soon-ish, the Leafs will have to demote Crabb and probably Kadri. However, Kadri really works well on that third line, and the trio of Kadri-Bozak-Armstrong was solid in the preseason. They have a bit of everything as a sheltered 3rd line. I still don’t know what the Leafs do with Lombardi, but there’s a definite need on that 2nd line right now at LW. JVR is very much the kind of player who would be a good fit. The Leafs want size and someone who can skate and pass with G & K.
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I’m not really sure what you’ve got against MacArthur, but he’s constitently been a solid performer for the team since we picked him up. If the team is healthy, we run:
MGK
LCK
Kadri-Bozak-Armstrong
Brown-Steckel-Boyce
And find someone who will give us like a 5th round pick for Lombardi.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Nice to be rid of that contract.
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by Back In Black on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
MacArthur is a 50 point player and I think Kadri is ready for the NHL. That said, one thing that is missing from the Leafs top 9 is size (Burke seems to think so too). You can add size without subtracting a player from the current group, and I think MacArthur is the least key player moving forward.
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I hate agreeing with you, but yup.
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I think MacArthur is probably a “good” second liner. He seems to be a 20-25/50 player. While that is not a core piece, it is a very useful piece when you combine his age and cost. I would move him in a package for the right player, but I would not push him out the door just to make room for Kadri.
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Long-term, the Leafs are likely to chose Kadri over MacArthur. If they want to add size to the top 9, as Burke so readily states, that means someone has to go. Right now, MacArthur is the better player. But long-term, who’s the guy? Kadri. That means that if the Leafs were looking to move for someone like JVR, MacArthur is probably going to lose his spot soon-ish.
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Man...
Sometimes I wish we could horde players. Ideally there would be a spot for both, but I realize that’s not the case. Especially after we get Bobby Ryan.
No one ever suspects the butterfly...
You’re both wrong. It’s “hoard”. “Horde” is used for large groups of savages sweeping through civilization, looting and pillaging. Like Vancouver after Game 7.
by LeafInVancouver on Jan 11, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can you use that in a sentence?
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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
How many boards would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hordes got bored?
by LeafInVancouver on Jan 11, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Nirbo was advocating the use of “horde” in that context.
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And I am totally cool with it, when trying to get a player like JVR. I just don’t want to see him pushed out the door “just to make room”
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The player that should go is Lupul. He’s literally at the peak of his value.
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Unless you guys incorrectly think Lupul is going to be a 100pt player again.
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Trade him in the offseason. He has Kessel rolling right now and I don’t want to break that line this year if we are still in the hunt.
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remember when you said Lupul sucks the day we acquired him?
that was fun.
just teasin’ ya big guy
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been the benefit of a lot of puck luck and hasn’t played more than 60 games in a season since 2009.
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hehe yea. It was justified at the time, i dont think anyone really saw Lupul playing THIS well. Even Bcapp had him at what… 25g 60pts?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
It’s game 42 and he’s six points off his career high.
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he’s a career 2nd liner playing out of his mind, who is actually in shape this year (as opposed to both of last seasons) and getting big minutes. Add in the puck luck you mentioned and bam.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about that. He’s been a 25-30 goal player for full seasons when healthy. That’s 1st line anywhere.
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Well, not anywhere given the way some teams are stacked out front, but yeah I guess that’s true. Injuries have really cut him down a bit, good he’s healthy now.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I would argue that
I would say he has been a first liner (not a star but a first liner) who can’t stay healthy (a Connolly if you will). Over the previous 4 seasons he is 53rd in GPG. His PPG (101st) put him at a top second liner. Realistically he was a #3 forward who has had serious injury problems.
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I would argue that
I would say he has been a first liner (not a star but a first liner) who can’t stay healthy (a Connolly if you will). Over the previous 4 seasons he is 53rd in GPG. His PPG (101st) put him at a top second liner. Realistically he was a #3 forward who has had serious injury problems.
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B Capp would argue that
And B Capp would also say he has been a first liner (not a star but a first liner) who can’t stay healthy (a Connolly if you will). Over the previous 4 seasons he is 53rd in GPG. His PPG (101st) put him at a top second liner. Realistically he was a #3 forward who has had serious injury problems.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes, hes having a mind blowing season
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, because “on pace for 53pts” but “only played 50 games” makes you pretty worthless.
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By some. Some of us thought it was pretty ridiculous. His injury history is misleading as it is predominantly based off two very related problems (a very serious back injury and subsequent infection). Before that he played lest than 75 GP once in 6 years. Of course that serious back injury could easily mean he’d never be the same player again.
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I figured he was good for 25 goals and 50 points. I did not think he’d be anywhere near the top of the league in scoring.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
As I said somewhere else
I called 27/53.
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Plus ferret-abuse. Never let that alone.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
…but he won’t go. It’s a 100% certainty, at least not this year.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Offseason then. Lupul’s on pace for 91 pts at age 28. 1.12 pts / gm. His previous career high was .82 ppg in only 56 games. His full season highest ppg is .65
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Couldn’t agree more. Move him in the off season.
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Could probably get Buffalo to give us a whole lot of overpayment.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Could we trade him for Lindy? I love the compete in that guy
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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 11, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
a real go getter
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
plays with his heart on his sleeve (guilty of using this before…yeah…)
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hell of a season out of him so far. Love what he’s done for Toronto this season.
Just think that he’s old, injury prone, and the benefit of some big puck luck.
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I think we’re all in agreement.
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I agree, I just still doubt it happens without another GM giving up a shitload for a 29-year-old injury prone player clearly in his best season, who will decline afterwards.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is a lot of GM’s think he’s feeding of Kessel
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right, so it might not be all the tea in china we get. I’m totally down with trading him, especially if he helps us get a unicorn or something.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
whats a realistic asking price for Lupul in the summer?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
A player over PPG? I think Chemmy summed it up.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’d put him with a pick or prospect or something for a unicorn centre.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
If someone is willing to give up a top-line centre they’re likely rebuilding. In which case they don’t want Lupul but rather a futures package.
My guess any trade for Lupul would be a need-for-need deal; we have a top six winger and need D, they have a top four D and need offence.
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Nashville?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
trade a player with 1 year more of contract at a cheap price (relative to performance) for a UFA who can wait and sign with anyone? errrrr NO.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
How about a team like the Avs?
The Avs only have eight players on the roster under contract for next year, and adding a guy like Lupul could be a way for them to add some veteran offence to their stable of young kids (Hejduk’s 35 and a UFA).
Maybe something like Lupul for their RFA D-man Kyle Quincey?
Alternatively, Lupul to St Louis for one of their young D
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Do we actually want Quincey? Is he that good? I just don’t know much about him. I remember he was supposed to be having a bad season lsat year until a big injury. That is about it.
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Quincey’s older than I originally thought. I wanted someone who fits in with the 23-26 age range of all of our D (except Lupul)
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Jamie McBain or Bogosian? Both teams are kind of rebuilding though…
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Whatever a teams’ equivalent of Cody Franson is; that’s the kind of return I’m targeting.
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I would hope we could get more than that if he can crack 80 points.
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A guy in the 22-25 range who still has room to improve, has shown potential of what he can be, and might be stuck behind another great player on his current team.
I don’t know how good the fit for a trade is; but Jason Demers in SJ.
He turns 24 this summer, he’s put up 21 and 24 points in 2 seasons, and should finish this year around 25.
He’s stuck on San Jose behind BOyle, BUrns, Vlasic and Murray. (Burns has basically taken away all of his PK time).
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Intersting. Definitely don’t know much about him. Also I didn’t realize Murray was so old.
You know who I would love, but who definitely isn’t available? Edler.
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Carlo Colaiacovo???
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I would do it in a heartbeat in the off-season, I just don’t see Burke doing it without another GM demonstrating epic levels of incompetence and parting with key assets.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t he have an NTC? Can’t imagine he’s in a hurry to leave the best situation of his career.
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He can specify six teams he won’t go to.
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NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
Seriously, who the hell would want to play under that ownership group?
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
john tavares?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
he was drafted by them, and he’s not a Yashin-style douche, so he’s kind of stuck with them.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Streit? Matt Moulson?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t ask me, I don’t know why they’re still there.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
you asked me
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Would Philly take him back?
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure Lupul would kill Burke. I got a feeling the guy is tired of being traded.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Long-term the only forward the Leafs have under contract past 2013 is Kessel.
Kulemin & Grabbo’s deals are up this year and everyone else is the following year.
Virtually no matter what, two years from now this Leafs team will look VERY different again.
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A lot of people seem to think that this is a great thing. It kind of makes me wary as keeping talent is important.
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trust in burke
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to sign the shit of out a Kessel extension at the end of this year, even if he has two left. Amend it with a couple more.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Keeping talent is important because talent doesn’t get to free agency.
Because the teams who have the talent lock them up.
The last three years the Leafs have been the team hoping talent got to free agency because they didn’t have it. Now they do and they have the cap flexibility to make sure their talent doesn’t get to free agency.
This is magnificent cap management because there’s no chance that somebody important is going to get squeezed out because we have some dickhole on a deal until forever taking up all the cap space.
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I’ve been fucking refreshing Scott Gomez’s hockey-reference page all day. Ugh. Hurry upppp.
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Damnit you’re going to make me do it now too just to see what has been put there.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Keeping talent is important, but when “sifting coal,” it’s important to continue sifting. Otherwise, you end up signing someone who might be talented to a 4.5 million dollar multi-year contract, and your fans are literally in such denial that they pretend he can “step up his game” for the playoffs.
Doing things like this means that Burke can pick and choose who he gets to extend very easily. It’s especially a good thing with a new CBA coming down the road.
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Oh I get the advantage. I just fear that we may have a bunch of players who may just decide to walk and get nothing out of them over the next few years.
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Where are they going that they get the same opportunity they got hereÉ
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I’m not particularly worried about players walking away from what Dion described two days ago as a very close-knit locker room. If someone wants to overpay them and they wanna follow the money, well, that’s fine.
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Probably trying to swing another Lupul-for-Pronger move.
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by Bower Power on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
With Lupul’s penalty at the end of the game the Leafs missed out on a chance to have 0 PIMs assessed for the first time in years, I believe.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions
meh it was one for one. I don’t know how they didn’t get an extra 2 but it hardly mattered.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, Lupul did punch Gerbe, but after Gerbe took a run at Kessel and then a run at Lupul, I don’t know how the Leafs didn’t wind up on the PP.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Gerbe suckered Lupul at the bench. That should have put Toronto on the man advantage, regardless of Lupul’s retaliation.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
It may have been the 3 upper-cuts Lupul delivered to gerbe after the ref stepped in at the bench.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Right, so Lupul gets 2 for roughing, but I thought for sure that suckering a guy as he skates off the ice warrants a double minor at least. Didn’t that guy on Atlantapeg get 5 for suckering Armstrong during play?
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They both got 2 for roughing and 2 for unsportsmanlike. Not sure what Lupul got an unsportsmanlike penalty for.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
kneeling to the ice so that he could uppercut Gerbe properly?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Great quote from Lupul on the incident:
[Gerbe] had 58 other minutes to play hard all game, and he didn’t. So it’s always a thing that makes me laugh, when a guy doesn’t show up for the game and then, with two minutes left, tries to make something happen.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I loved that line as well.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Lups has done a great job trolling buffalo this year
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Lupul has done a great job trolling everyone. His Sens-All Star Game comment was priceless.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have a room without a window?
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nope, but luckily i dont live in buffalo.
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
holy sarcasm fail
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
In my day we'd banish someone for something like that.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 11, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Did the onion on your belt make you crazy or something?
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hey guys
I’m just gonna leave this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Mx_iF-zXc
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
the 2011-2012 version is going to be a lot shorter.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
"Like he told me, he did that for me because [Kaleta] hit me," Grabovski said. "I’m happy for that because Russians stay with Russians."
From the Mirtle article linked above.
Too good.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
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Also, do it more often for your non-Russian teammates
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
As awesome as the hit was, it looked like Kule was in pain after the play. I really hope he knows better than to injure himself.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
f’n right.Not many guys I wanted to see layed out more than Kaleta.
Nikky needs to do that wayyy more often
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
It was such a perfect hit. He doesn’t need to run around looking for hits, but a few more big hits (He does have the frame for it) would be awesome. Maybe last night inspires him.
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
seeing his best buddy Grabbo get trucked by kaleta got him going. Those 2 are heating up for us at a really big time of year and I hope that fire can carry on right through to the playoffs
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Comrade?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
If Kessel picks up the pace a little bit, I end up eating a shoe. He’s already at 24 goals in 42 games, let’s call it a 48 goal pace. Close.
Gus at .908 wonder what his career prognosis will be if he keeps it around .910 all year
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by pho king awesome on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions
Gets offered a 1-ish million dollar contract in the NHL (for 1-2 years) and much more in the KHL. Decision is his.
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that sounds about right.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt a young Swedish goalie with an NHL job on the tables goes to the KHL.
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I heard they’ve recently updated the fleet of private jets used by every franchise.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, still haven’t figured out the sarcastic font yet.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
@ symbols.
as such
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Whoa, and I thought this was like the secret stone-cutter handshake that would only be revealed in time!
oops, sorry.. hold on:
Whoa, and I thought this was like the secret stone-cutter handshake that would only be revealed in time!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
OH GOD HE BROKE IT! ALERT STATUS RED!
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he goes, but I think he’d probably get a more lucrative offer there.
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Why? I mean, it’s not like he’s a high-profile name that’ll attract fans. Getting Nabokov to go back is probably the KHL-unicorn equivalent in net.
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I guess I never thought about it that way. I was originally going to say SEL contract, but I knew they couldn’t offer as much money so I said KHL… Guess it didn’t make much sense.
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Not sure a guy with past heart issues would jump at the chance to earn more money in the KHL
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I meant more along his career comparables, maybe it looks up?
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by pho king awesome on Jan 11, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely Off Topic:
Just saw a random post from user 6rick6 from about 2.5 years ago speculating that the price for Kessel could be 2 1st and a 2nd rounder. Among cries that this was way overpayment for a guy who “may not be the same after injury” (and this was before the Leafs ended up with a 2nd overall pick that year, mind you), there was a comment by a certain user whose fear was that “Stalberg might be included in such package”.
I wonder how said user would have reacted if he knew at the time that Stalberg AND a 1st would soon depart for a Kris Versteeg, not a Phil Kessel.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions
calling Paradis a 1st round pick is like calling Datsyuk a 6th round pick
sure, that’s where they were drafted but they don’t have the value of their draft slot
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I was kind of teasing about the fact that your biggest concern regarding the Kessel trade was that we might lose Stalberg.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wish we had
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe you realized it was you
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non-important things, this is why there is no room in my brain for advance stats
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 11, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
This is weird, but I was sorting through my leafs picture collection last night when I came across this.
FYI, Stalberg has 25 pts in 40 games.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
but to be fair, you did say his “absolute peal”, and I’m not sure what that is exactly, so…
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
btw… in your screen shot I see you have a tab open for a google search on “Stalberg”. Safe to assume you had to google search the name to know who he was at the time?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes I bother to check stats and facts. :P
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I thought everyone on here has the last 50 years of NHL stat history committed to memory.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
25 pts in 40 games
Not bad, but in context:
…playing between two guys averageing 40 pts in 40 games.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
it’s not like they drew his name out of a hat to play there though.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
No, but I do think he is benefiting immensley from it. I could see the reasoning though.
Hey Vikky, Jonny and Pat are gonna create a lot of opportunities, shots, and most likely rebounds because they are who they are, we know you have “mike brown” hands, but if you can skate to those rebounds faster than anyone else on the ice, just swipe your stick at the puck and you might get lucky.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
50 points is still nothing to sneeze at.
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Especially for a guy with only 2 seasons under his belt.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Chicago has their very own Tyler Bozak, it seems.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly. With all that said, he was still a fun guy to watch.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I remember when Bob McKenzie predicted he’d win the Calder.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Did they create a new trophy for fastest skater and steal the “Calder” name?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
If preseason meant anything he would’ve looked good for the Art Ross.
by A Lindros Jaw on Jan 11, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
he was frustrating too. Guy had wicked speed, but wouldn’t always unleash it.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I called him a tall swedish Jason Blake without the 40 goals
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makes sense to me
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Used his speed but then would shoot at the goalies chest
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z
Where? I did a search and no post came up
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by leafer1984 on Jan 11, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions 15 recs
So good.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
it was on the side bar for me (it’s gone now), under fanposts or fanshots. Titled something like “Two 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel?”
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I actually LOLed at this.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
fuckin reply fail WITH a z subject. DOUBLE FAIL
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by leafer1984 on Jan 11, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
triple fail? triple fail.
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by birky on Jan 11, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A TRIPLE FAIL WHAT THE FUCK
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by leafer1984 on Jan 11, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Oh man that’s great.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
your hands must be moving so fast in anger right now
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hat trick for leafer
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
nah dscwise or however you spell it holds the record. Every comment is a fail for him.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
BEFORE ALL YOU FUCKERS CAN SAY IT
4 Leafer falls down looking for the refs
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Connolly’s maintenance day:
Leafs are getting ready for Buffalo again. If they were doing systems work against the Sabres it’s a good bet he already knows.
Just a thought.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 11, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
“If you want a penalty called, just tip your helmet with the index finger of your right hand while standing in the faceoff dot.”
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t talk shit about Cailou.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
@HayesTSN
Bryan Hayes Dion Phaneuf voted the most overrated player by 161 NHLers polled by SI
Someone’s going to play with a chip on his shoulder.
wilson most hated coach, phaneuf most overrated blah blah. The league hates toronto and wants to embarass us. Good thing were sticking it int heir faces this year
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe if they think he’s so overrated they should stop getting beaten by him when he’s on the ice.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
the same lame ass poll included Jarome iginla… like really…
The underrated poll had Datsyuk. What a joke
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 11, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Datsyuk is underrated.
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By other hockey players? Must be why he gets so many points.
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I dunno, I feel like he gets discussed in the tier of the Spezza’s and Richards of the world when he is a step above (at least IMHO).
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I was fine with it until I saw Iginla was on the same list. Seriously? Iginla?
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by theninjagreg on Jan 11, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger at 11!!!!! BAhahahahaha
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Also Semin is overrated? No one thinks he is good, I thought he was underrated…
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by theninjagreg on Jan 11, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve come to the conclusion that hockey players aren’t always the best to judge other peers around them.
1. Because of obvious potential bias
2. (let me know if anyone else has had this experience) I believe you can judge the skill or ability of another player better by having a birdseye view of the game rather than ice level. For me, when I’m on the ice, everyone on the opposing team appears the same in skill and ability. it’s only when I get off the ice and observe as a spectator that I can see who the truly good guys are. Thus, I’d take a coaches poll over a players poll.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if forwards could judge defenders more and vice versa
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I was just thinking, this might be more accurate, as in “harder to play against”. I mean, for all we know, this poll could have been Craig Conroy voting like 160 times!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 11, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bahahaha. Komi at 10! Who actually thinks Komi is any good?
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Who the hell rates him so highly? We’ve known for years he’s overpaid…but overrated? bahahaha.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I like how they don’t provide the actual results…. The most anyone probably had was like 20 votes.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
How many people has Phaneuf destroyed with big hits this year? Maybe this is their way of getting revenge, since they can’t beat him on the ice apparently.
by Goosemonster on Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
As Japer’s Rink pointed out, Ovechkin was #2……despite winning 3 Pearson/Lindsay awards as the best player as voted by his peers.
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Ontario?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 11, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing? http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=london#q=london&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=nws&ei=jAMOT6C0PKOjiAKN5ajcDQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=5&ved=0CBoQ_AUoBA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=ef8e1a5f648c671f&biw=1920&bih=955
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by theninjagreg on Jan 11, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
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When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.
There have been what, 4 “massage” parlours Molotov cocktail’d (if you count the one in St. Thomas), plus one strip joint. Biker gangs warring, destroying each others’ property.
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I thought it was two hours.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
Either way
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I guess I shouldn't find it funny that there are gangs in London
But I still kind of do.
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Anyone hear about this new overrated list that Phaneuf topped again?
Apparently it came out today I’m finding it harder and harder to argue with people about the stupidity of the MSM, its so time consuming
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by pho king awesome on Jan 11, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions
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