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by JP Nikota on Jan 12, 2012 7:01 AM EST
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Today, I've got a humongous big pile of links for your perusal, and they took me forever to gather. Now, you're going to sit at the table and read them until you're finished, or you're not getting any dessert. Also, it'll put hair on your chest, so that's a plus.
The link I'm serving as your appetizer comes to us from Jeff Arnold at Puck Daddy. It seems that weeks of kvetching about how Gary Bettman and his board of governors are only interested in putting teams from the Atlantic Division in the Winter Classic might finally pay off. That is, it's looking increasingly possible that the Toronto Maple Leafs meet the Detroit Red Wings at the University of Michigan's gigantic football stadium:
One source, who spoke on a condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak on the matter, said Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon wasn't initially sold on the idea of the NHL hosting an outdoor game at Michigan Stadium. But over a matter of a couple of weeks, the source said "something happened to make it go from looking like it could happen to [a point where] it probably will."
Oh boy. Brian Burke and Ron Wilson on 24/7? An outdoor game in a venue so gigantic we actually might stand a chance of getting tickets? Oh boy. Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy.
It's true that this has been rumored, so perhaps it's not all that shocking at this point, but the prospect of such an even is exciting nonetheless.
Leafs Links:
Brian Burke Wins At The Internet, Hockey, And Life In General
If you haven't seen this, see it now.
The Leafs and Sabres- Shift by Shift
Danny Gray picks back up with his Shift Chart series. Always worth a read. From Leafs Nation.
Maple Leafs Forward Scoring Rates
I'll give you one guess to figure out who is number one. From our benevolent leader PPP at The Leafs Nation.
Phaneuf over-rated? Let’s not lose our heads…
Michael Langlois of VLM muses about the ridiculous list.
Flyers and Leafs interesting trade partners
OK, so there are no specific players' names mentioned, but that's fine. Interesting tidbit. From Philly.com by Frank Seravalli.
Ryan Hamilton Leads the way as Marlies Defeat IceCaps 4-2
More good news from down on the farm via the digital pen of Kyle the Reporter.
Amazed Marlies Forget About Game After Neuber Scores Goal
Jeffler has a post on what appears to be a more recent game than the one Kyle has already posted about.
Leafs defencemen pulling their weight on offence
I had a post about this not too long ago at The Leafs Nation, and it seems everyone else is noticing the same trend. From Robert MacLeod at the Globe.
Wax Stain Rookie: Johnny Bower
Warning: this post may make you want to get those dusty hockey cards out from under your bed that you hide from your girlfriend like a secret porn collection. From Dirty Dangle. What a dirty intro.
Why Ryan Getzlaf Is The Answer For The Toronto Maple Leafs
Curt S has his say over at Blue Chip Prospects.
Today, Jonas Gustavsson Is An NHL Starter... Just Not A Good One
He ranks 29th in the league in SV%, and that's great news. I can't remember if he's ever been in the top 30 of the league before. Glove tap to Battle of Ontario for pointing this out, but their image was of an outdated stat board.
Other Hockey Links:
The Marchand of Venice
You should probably read this before you do anything else today.
Pancakes With Penner
Yes, it's really written by Dustin Penner.
Does the Momentum Boost From Fighting Help Teams Win Games?
Not so much. From Jonathan Willis at The Leafs Nation.
Weekly Fenwick Power Rankings
Hrm. From Hawerchuk at Arctic Ice Hockey.
Ducks GM Bob Murray patient on trade front, but not with team's performance
From the CP at the Hockey News.
On a Gay Hockey Blog, Posts About the Meaning of the Game
The New York Times' hockey blog Slap Shot has caught wind of the good work going on over at Puck Buddys. Story by Jeff Z. Klein.
Quebec junior hockey player suspended over racial taunt
Interesting that the CHL is often the one setting precedence for the NHL. From the CP via the Globe.
Mike Cammalleri with some choice words for his team. You make the jokes.
"We prepare for our games like losers. We play like losers. So it's no wonder why we lose." By QMI Agency at Canoe.ca. Normally, I don't like to these guys (Quebecor media generally = puke), but the Globe edited out the best part of this quote.
Could The Penguins And Capitals Both Miss The Playoffs?
Unlikely. From Dirty Dangle.
The 10 coaches with the most "beerability" in the NHL
I don't know why he doesn't just say "coaches I'd like to have a beer with", but whatever. From Justin Bourne at BS.
What "we" means for pro sports teams, fans and media
Again from JB at BS.
More Linkage!
SBN is setting up a Twitter feed - follow it! They're also setting up a Facebook page. Like it!
Here are a few of the stories they've conjured in the last 24 hours:
NHL Midseason Awards
Derek Zona has begun writing for SBN's hockey page. SBN is going to be attempting to grow this part of the site, so keep your eyes peeled for more from these guys.
NHL Power Rankings
Not much love for the Leafs in this one. Again from Derek Zona.
NHL Coach Firings
An update on how the teams with new coaches are fairing. From Dominik Jansky.
Brad Marchand Suspended: Peter Chiarelli, Bruins Try To Take Moral High Ground, Fail
This one again from SBN, but this time by Travis Hughes.
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Trading Schenn or trading for Schenn?
I didn’t read all the comments in that “trading with Philly” story. But it looked like everyone just assumes Burke trades Luke to them—instead of bringing Brayden to us, which seems far more Burkian to me.
No way he trades Luke. I hope….
I think Schenn goes ONLY for a unicorn. Other than that, Burke isn’t trading him. Yes, he hasn’t been great this year, and yes he’s on season 3 – but he’s also just 22 now, and Shut-down defensemen take a whole to come into their own. Usually later than offensive defensemen. We’ve been discussing him as part of a trade, but again, only for a unicorn.
by Goosemonster on Jan 12, 2012 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
season 4 actually.
I hope its for a unicorn but there are no unicorns philly will send.. they’re not ditching giroux, they’re not trading briere (and with his contract burke wouldnt want him) and the only potential unicorns are Couturier and Schenn. doubt they’re trading couturier.
If the Flyers trade Schenn that would be his third team in what, two years? Besides, if we’re getting BSchenn that would imply sending an established roster player the other way. Considering what the Flyers gave up for him they’d be looking for some combo of Grabbo, Kulemin and a D prospect, with maybe something else coming back our way to balance out the salaries
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions
All of which is to say that I don’t think it makes sense for the Flyers to move him less than a season after acquiring him
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe the kid still has a concussion or is not playing up to expectation and the Flyers are trying to dump him to the guy that covets him the most for a big return before the league discovers all the flaws
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Umm…trades are usually subject to medical examinations, the successful completions of which are required for the deal to go through.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Couturier, Giroux and Schenn all went down with concussions. All were back in less than a month. Not saying it’s not possible as all concussions vary in severity and time to recover but it seems quick.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s just walk through how ridiculous this thought process is.
Trading someone trying to recover from a concussion is a pretty crummy thing to do and won’t curry the team any favours with players around the league.
Considering this is a team that has a history of hiding injured players on LTIR (Rathje, Laperrier, Pronger) to avoid cap issues, it would also be highly hypocritical.
Trading someone who’s damaged goods will either end up a) having the trade rescinded, b) will piss off that team and ruin them as a future trading partner, and c) piss of a whole bunch of other GMs for doing a pretty scummy thing.
The NHL GM fraternity is an Old Boys Club, not some Machiavellian industry. The guys who pull shit like this are the guys who eventually find themselves ostracized from the group and out of a job.
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He did Poile a favour by taking Lombardi’s salary
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It’s not dirty pool if you’re disclosing the health risks.
Burke knew there was a risk Lombardi never plays, but Nashville needed relief from an uninsured contract.
I’m talking specifically about stuff like Colin Fraser to LA, where Edmonton didn’t disclose the nature of his injury. Of all the missteps Tambellini has made, I think it’s stuff like this that eventually gets him canned because he’ll be blackballed from making deals with other GMs and thus incapable of improving his team.
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FTFY
blackballed from making deals with other GMs and thus even more incapable of improving his team.
Man he’s done an awful job.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
If, big if, it is actually B Schenn the Flyers are trying to trade something is amiss. Makes no sense to trade the centerpiece of the Richards deal halfway through his first season. Only reason something is plausible is because of their medical staff history.
Also could be they are spooked by concussions as everyone knows the subsequent ones seem like they are a when not if proposition. Sure the kid could pass baseline testing but one hit and he’s done. “He was fine when we gave him to you and you knew he has a history…..”
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
You seem like you spend a lot of time thinking about the JFK Assassination.
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No kidding… how do we know its Holmgren shopping BSchenn and not Burke agressively pursuing him? Maybe Burke started it by calling and asking “what will it take to get brayden from you, Luke misses his baby bro”
Moreover, what reason do we have to think that BSchenn is being discussed at all seriously?
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Exactly. As I see it, it’s classic Burke misdirection – he’s after JVR, which allows Schenn to move to the wing on the second line.
Every trade rumour is speculative and not a single one of us here is sitting in on the discussion between GMs.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
My biggest problem with Schenn is the lack of progress. He is no better in season 4 than he was as a rookie. The “he is just 22” argument only goes so far when there is absolutely no progress being made and the coach is dropping his ice time.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, maybe we’ve all fooled ourselves since the guy is a top-5 pick after all, but all that really means is that he’s got a good chance of being an NHL regular.
Copper and Blue did a bit of a study on 1st round choice value, and while we can debate “elite” and “top” player until the cows come home, they conclude that out of players picked 4th – 7th, only half become what they consider to be top players. So basically out of Schenn and Kadri, one should be mediocre and one should turn into a top player. Or since it’s just a sample size of two, neither. Or both.
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by Peter de Chatham on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t have the numbers available, but has there really been no progress in his boxcar stats or advanced stats?
Can’t access the numbers at work (old computer) but i’d like to see the numbers bear this out before agreeing with you
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Here is an article I wrote last summer and here is another article I wrote in December and here is another from December about the horrible PK. None point to Schenn being any good defensively and none indicate there has been much improvement.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
The article from the summer seems to show that Schenn had better stats than Beauchemin (who I know many miss for his defensive ability)
Also in the 2nd chart it pretty clearly shows that between 2008 and 2011 Schenn made marked improvements in both numbers and rank in GA20, HARD+, and CorHARD +.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
As to his offensive stats:
2008-09: 70GP 2G 12A 14P
2009-10: 79GP 5G 12A 16P
2010-11: 82GP 5G 17A 22P
2011-12: 41GP 1G 11A 12P
Which shows improvement despite being given no significant PP time
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
He also played with significantly better teammates and to some extent against weaker competition. Here are the numbers over the last 3 years plus this season through the weekend (i.e. not including the BUF game). The first column is his rookie year and the last column is the current season.
GA20: 0.971, 0.930, 0.838, 0.83
TMGA20: 0.931, 0.815, 0.785, 0.78
OPPGF20: 0.777, 0.746, 0.753, 0.76
FA20: 15.23, 14.09, 14.87, 16.37
TMFA20: 13.773, 13.312, 15.008, 13.12
OPPFF20: 13.255, 13.148, 13.519, 13.11
HARD+: 0.818, 0.846, 0.888, 0.86
FenHARD+: 0.892, 0.961, 0.941, 0.84
In every season his linemates have had a higher goals against when playing with Schenn than when not playing with Schenn. Every season the opposition scored goals at a higher rate against Schenn than against the rest of the league.
Only last season did Schenn’s teammates give up fewer fenwick events against when Schenn was on the ice with them than when he was not, and only marginally so. This year when Schenn is on the ice the team gives up nearly 3 additional fenwick events against per 20 minutes of ice time than when he is not. That’s nearly 25% more!! That’s dreadful.
You could argue that there has been some minor improvement in his play (and maybe there has) but the numbers still have him as a well below average defensive player.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I was simply refuting your point that he has made no progress over the previous 3 seasons. Clearly he has made progress in a number of statistical categories, and last season was better than Beauchemin and Komisarek on the PK. He has also made progress offensively, as demonstrated by his offensive numbers.
Has he developed to his potential yet? No, but he is making progress
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
But the question is, how long do you wait for him to develop into his potential before you conclude he won’t or at very least won’t likely become the elite shut down guy you hope for when you drafted him? There aren’t enough signs to convince me he can be anything more than a second pairing defenseman and right now he isn’t even there. To me the hopes of a quality #2 guy (which was probably his upside potential when drafted) are gone and there is still a lot of doubt that he can even develop into a #3 or #4 guy on a good team.
So with that said, if there is another GM out there that sees him as a potential #2 or #3 guy and will offer you a trade with that sort of value, I’d be jumping all over it.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
How long do you wait
A little longer than 4 years, especially considering he’s 22. IIRC his stats at 22 and earlier are similar to those of other young shutdown defensemen.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
You are making an argument that teams should never draft and develop shutdown defensemen. If they suck into their mid-20’s why suffer through years of bad play just so you can get the benefit of them just as they are set to become UFA’s and leave or cost you big bucks. If you are going to have to pay big bucks to have a shut down defenseman on your team why suffer through 5 or 6 years of very sub-par play to get there.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well ideally (and the Leafs didn’t do this, which is their mistake) you allow the prospect to develop either in college or in the CHL/AHL for most of those years. That way you aren’t suffering all those years.
The Leafs however did not do that, so have had to “suffer”. The other side being that now that we’ve spent all this time on him, why trade him to another team in time for his prime
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fair comment on your first point.
Fair comment on your second point, if you think he can still develop. As you know, I am not convinced. If I can get good value for him, I’d trade him now and not take the risk.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
but even trading him is a risk.
You risk missing out on his potential upside. You risk trading him for a player that might not gel with the current lineup. etc.
Basically everything is a risk, and trading a player becuase you don’t know how well he’ll play in the future is short-sighted.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 12, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn has been passed by Phaneuf, Komisarek, and Franson on the team’s depth chart.
Schenn may drastically improve, but it may not be in Toronto.
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Schenn has been passed by … Franson on the team’s depth chart.
I wasn’t sure about this, but the stats don’t lie – Schenn has played more minutes than Franson just once in the past 7 games, and even then only 9 seconds more. Huh.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn lost his PK time and doesnt get PP time.
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pretty sure better than Schenn’s as well
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On the season as a whole Schenn is slightly ahead, but I’d be willing to bet that’s based largely on the portion of the season where Schenn was playing like 20 minutes a night.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Right, over the last 10-15 games I would bet that FRanson was played more than him on average. He has also played better than Schenn too. I’m not even that big of a fan on franson
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If Burke had done the “roster player + a 2nd” for Franson that was supposedly offered earlier in the year, I probably would have been in favour of it. I’m glad Burke held on though, he’s improved a lot as the season’s gone on.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
The same is true for the Liles trade (Boston’s second was unacceptable at the deadline). I wonder whose price will look a bit nicer in the offseason.
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It was our 2nd that was unnaceptable at the deadline (turned into 39th). Trade wasn’t done until we got Boston’s 2nd (when Boston made the finals).
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If we can get Franson signed to something like the Gunnarsson deal this summer, I’d be pretty strongly in favour of keeping him rather than trading him.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
What hurts is he’s been passed by Gunnarsson and (currently, at least) Franson, when coming into this season he had about as much NHL experience as the two of them put together.
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by Back In Black on Jan 12, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I would have argued that Gunnar was ahead of him coming into the season.
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by Back In Black on Jan 12, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
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by LeafInVancouver on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think the idea is that you don’t sign them so damn young. Let them start on the team around 20 so at the end of their ELC they are starting to shine.
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YOu can sign them right after you draft them, that wont affect ELC
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Fletcher broke Schenn.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Still don’t get how Philly trading JVR for Schenn makes any sense from Philly’s side.
Schenn probably only moves up to 4 or 5 in ice time on Philly’s blue line, but they create a huge hole up front with the loss of JVR. They have to bump everyone up their depth chart AGAIN to replace a top six forward, and even with all the pieces they acquired in the Carter/Richards deals they still don’t have much depth outside the NHL.
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Thats my biggest issue with Schenn. He needs to be more of a bastard on the ice
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It doesnt. Does that mean we cannot dream?
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straight up, I’d rather have Schenn
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s say that both players will definitely reach their maximum potential.
Schenn becomes a shut-down D man who can play on the Top unit.
JVR becomes a first line winger who scores over 30 goals and 60 points and plays a physical game and is a times the best player on the ice.
Who would you take?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn. 100%.
There are fewer shut-down D-men who can play top line minutes in the NHL than 30 goal scorers. Plus, we already have 1, we have another player who will score 30 this year, and a player who is under-performing this year but did score 30 last year (who also has size and defensive ability)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
If you are saying that Schenn’s ceiling is to be a first pairing shutdown defender I would say JVR’s ceiling is 35/80.
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Fine, whatever, you get the idea. Assume they both reach their ceiling, who do you take.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
If his ceiling is to be a slightly better Dustin Brown and Schenn’s is to be Seabrooke? I take Seabrooke.
But I don’t think that is there ceilings. I think Schenn’s ceiling is maybe Beauchemin and JVR’s is more similar to Carter (without the center ability). I take JVR.
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you think JVR is a 40 goal scorer but Schenn is only Beauchemin?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
if JVR is a Carter comparable, than Schenn is at the very least a Suter comparable
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I guess I’d take Suter over Carter. But it’d be damn close.
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Carter was being enrusted with great defensive responsibility by his age 21 and 22 season being 4th in SHTOI/G……….his numbers were only slightly better than JVR but his contribution was more than just offence, JVR on the other hand has barely any SH TOI in any of his NHL season and his offence is nothing special…….
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I did not realizethey put a 21 year old rookie forward on the ice for 2 min SH/GP (Carter). Richards even had more.
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seems like the Flyers MO…….their 2 and 3 SHTOI/GP forwards are Read and Courtier………….seems if they see defense in a guy they play him early and often
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
this year i mean
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I ask because I honestly don’t know.
Last season there were 29 players who scored 30+ goals and 49 players who scored 60+ points.
How many d-men were there with the type of numbers that would make them a “top pairing shut-down d-man” in the league?
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
How do Seabrook and Suter get in these comparisons? Both have more offensive guns that Schenn, and their records show that.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
huh? before he was 23 suter never had more than 24 points at any level of pro
schenn had more than that twice in jr (CHL VS American minor leagues) and is on pace for 24 points at the exact same age Suter hit 24 points
at 21 schenn had 22 points to suters 16
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Seabrook had 32 pts in the NHL at age 20.
But mostly, do you seriously see 45 or 48 points in Schenn’s future?
I wish I did.
Even if not, I just wish to fuck we’d see him dominate on defence. Even for a night. Instead, he’s still hesitant. Awkward. It’s frustrating as hell.
And the thing is, I know you compare Gardiner’s age to Luke’s, but Schenn HAS had 4 years of NHL coaching, NHL practices, NHL experience. He SHOULD be showing much tighter.
Donno. Not 100% sold on JVR, haven’t seen him enough. If a better deal is out there for a Getzlaf or someone, then ok. But right now? I’d say Leafs need to think about dealing Schenn BEFORE he’s seen to be “over-rated.”
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by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming Joffrey Lupul is having a career season and isn’t likely to challenge for scoring lead the rest of his time here, that Leafs the Leafs still with only one high-scoring forward. And with the Leafs already having Phaneuf as their top-pairing RD, I’d rather have JVR.
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so you only need one elite D but 2 elite forwards?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
You need talent. Even if they both reach full potential, JVR is the more talented hockey player.
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that is where my doubt lies, I don’t think JVR is more “talented” than Schenn, a better scorer? sure, but when you sort for the vastly different positions they play it is a wash
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
this ceiling you speak of, would it only be reached once, or is it repeatable for several years?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
in a vacuum or on the Leafs?
former – JVR
latter – Schenn
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This man brings up a very very good point
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This is where I’m coming from. If I were putting together a blank roster and I were choosing one or the other, I’d choose JVR. But the Leafs are starting with a roster that already has a lot of talent at W and is badly in need of D. That should effect what kinds of player personnel decisions you make.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
If Schenn can fetch JVR
than I’d rather package Schenn for something else.
I just don’t think JVR is what we need all that much. He’s putting up okay numbers in a highly sheltered situation, on a team with a lot of offensive weapons. I’d rather use that cap space to keep Macarthur.
I would trade MacArthur for JVR a billion times out of a billion
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 12, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
JVR
36GP 11G 11A
62.7% Ozone Starts (easiest zone starts)
Ranks second toughest among forwards in CorsiComp scores.
Hmmmm… this would be a great time for some of that context. I’d love to see who he is lining up against game in game out, because those Ozone/Comp numbers seem a bit contradictory.
My guess is that he matches up against a lot of the really good two-way guys: Bergeron, Grabovski, Zetterberg. But perhaps he also catches a lot of those checking line Mike Brown types.
The point is, he might not be as sheltered as I first suspected.
Can we not at least aim higher, Burke was able to trade Kaberle as a rental and get a former first round pick, a first and a second. Is Schenn not worth more than that and if so is JVR?
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I think JVR straight up has more trade value than Schenn. I just don’t think another winger is what this team needs to get better.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
What are we going on here? I’m basis my guess on what Burke has stated he is looking for, not necessarily what we think the Leafs need.
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I’m not sure he’s all that sheltered. He has a high OZone% but he plays tough competition
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Word is JVR’s had a nagging hip injury all season. Not serious enough for surgery, but enough that it’s affecting the rest of his game.
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Is Brian Burke the man you want to try and pass off damaged goods on?
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damaged goods or a talented young player who’s numbers are depressed by a non-career threatening nagging injury?
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And when he traded for Kessel, it was coming off of shoulder surgery and recovery from cancer.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
At that point the cancer didn’t really matter (besides showing that he had the character to persevere through it).
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IIRC his last year in Boston he had really bad Mono and returned early with a metal plate protecting his spleen.
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turned out he was just bored
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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 12, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
When it comes to health risk something like cancer will always matter to a hockey team. Yes he’s in remission, and I get that it looks like he’s made a full recovery, but as far as the team (and their insurance company) is concerned Kessel will have “cancer” in bold letters on his medical file for the rest of his life.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Not for the form of testicular cancer he had. He isn’t in remission he is cured. There is a large difference.
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not to an insurance company… they think “he had it in one ball he can easily get it in the other. GIVE ME MOAR MONEYS!!”
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
That’s my point. Insurance companies don’t give a crap. It probably costs significantly more to insure Kessel (esp. at his salary) than other players.
For a team the risk that someday that cancer might come back (not necessarily testicular, maybe somewhere else) will always, always be there.
Think about it this way: when you’re signing someone to a $27M+ contract to play on your hockey team, you are going to take into account absolutely everything. And no matter what the doctors say, the team will always think there is a chance. It’s not fair, but it’s not about that: it’s pragmatism.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Except it is not true. He is not at a higher risk for cancer than the general population.
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You’re the one in med school, so I’m going to assume you’re right. But I don’t think it makes a difference. Call me a cynic.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t have all the deatils of his cancer (type, stage, grade), but an early caught testicular cancer has basically the highest cure rate of any cancer.
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Is it 100%? Is any cure rate for cancer ever 100%?
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not trying to be a dick, but insurance companies are. And when your talking about contracts and commitments like what Kessel has gotten and will get (his next contract will be monster) teams have to at least consider these things. It’s the responsible thing to do from a business standpoint
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
If caught before metastasizing I believe it is. To be honest it isn’t about getting to 100%. It is about getting to a risk where you are no higher than population risk. In other words his risk would be the same as an age matched control.
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It’s Philly.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
They looked like they got the better end of the Carter deal so far
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Broken foot and now a separated shoulder. Terrible luck
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Voracek is scoring at what a .6PPG (going off memory I’m sure someone will fact check and tell me I’m wrong)? Also Couturier is playing very very solid hockey
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Well, at least Carter’s got nowhere to go but up. And 10 years to do it in
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Holmgren’s Razor.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
...
I like to pretend that he has one of those old style TNT demolition setups in his office.
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It doesn’t say ACME on it, so clearly no
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because he hasn’t played to the level expected of a top 5 pick so far………and they might want a defender
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
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okay, not an all star level top 5 pick…….he’s put up okay numbers so far, but in comparison to previous top 5 forward picks at a similar age, his numbers aren’t great
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Reminds me of Versteeg laughing and smiling in the middle of a losing streak. Nice to see he still has his sense of humour despite only having 2 goals this yr.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Can someone summarize what Burke said about Gus last night?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions
on PTS? Nothing special really, but apparently at an event ovr Christmas he pulled him aside and said, no one is writing this, but you saved our ass
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Ah, good stuff. What if it turned out, that all Gus needed was some confidence.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
like the cowardly lion?
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He told Gus that he has been the saviour of the season. He knows it and the players know it.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Polls are bizarre
Komisarek and Jokinen were very overrated. Four years ago. Now they’re only overrated by people who have been living in caves for the past four years (and, having said that, even Dion probably knows better).
Next time someone polls me about technology I’ll tell them that I don’t think OS/2 is going to catch on.
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Shame they don’t have the balls to publish who the players were that responded. Would add some animosity to the games.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
When I was thinking about the guys on the list I came to think of who was voting: peers. I can see them voting for the players making a lot of money because in their mind that is how high they are “rated” (they would like to make that much money)
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I was wondering how that got started. Some of them are brilliant.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 AM EST reply actions
acapone85 <blockquote>"LeafsBB20: Folks, have a question for me? Now that you know how horrendous your goaltending is, what are you going to do to address it?
LeafsBB20 <blockquote>acapone85 Figures, a Jets fan asks this question. Not sure what you are watching. I, too, have sent emails when I was hammered!
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@LeafsBB20: Folks, have a question for me? Now that you know how horrendous your goaltending is, what are you going to do to address it?
@acapone85 Figures, a Jets fan asks this question. Not sure what you are watching. I, too, have sent emails when I was hammered!
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by BlindSight on Jan 12, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Going as far back as the lockout, only 7 teams have made the Playoffs from the East with a negative goal differential. Zero last year.
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This is why I think we ought to re-do the Eastern Conference goal differentials with games against Boston stripped out. Boston’s dominance is messing up the whole thing. Maybe if I’ve got time on lunch today I’ll do it.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'm only "pretty sure" I did this basic addition and subtraction correctly
NYR, WSH, and BOS have been left out of these charts, either for being Boston or for not having played them this year. WSH has a -1, NYR has a +35, and BOS sits at +70 without any correction.
Goal differential JUST to boston:
FLA: -6
PHI: -5
OTT: -5
NJD: -6
TOR: -10
PIT: -4
BUF: -5
MTL: +1
TBL: -3
NYI: -10
CAR: +4
So, if you want to re-do the goal differentials so that no team has ever played Boston:
PHI: 22
PIT: 16
TOR: 14
OTT: 1
NJD: 1
FLA: -1
WPG: -9
MTL: -9
BUF: -11
NYI: -20
TBL: -25
CAR: -39
If you want to re-do the goal differentials so that any individual game differential greater than 3 is removed to 3 (basically just for “anti-score-runup”):
BOS: 70
PHI: 19
PIT: 16
TOR: 10
OTT: 1
NJD: -1
FLA: -6
WPG: -9
MTL: -9
BUF: -12
NYI: -24
TBL: -25
CAR: -39
So if no one had played any games against Boston, Toronto is 5th in the conference by goal differential (add back BOS and NYR). Toronto is also 5th in the conference in goal differential if no one had been blown out by Boston by more than 3 goals. Also, Toronto currently sits at 5th in the east in goal differential. No change.
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by Bower Power on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Awesome. Looks more like what we would expect – about half the teams have a positive differential, and half have a negative one.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
Mike Komisarek
Two different polls…which is better #10 or #4 lol? sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/pho… or shape.com/celebrities/5-…
Oh man watching the Habs implode is great.
Mike Cammalleri said:
"We prepare for our games like losers. We play like losers. So it’s no wonder why we lose."
Oh boy.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Uh uh uh, en français.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Nous sommes merde.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Toujours être la fermeture
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No i’m reading it in the voice of the French Teacher on the Simpsons.
ahahahahahahahah
Uh Uh Uh, Class. En Francais.
Hoh Hoh Hoh Hoh
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by clrkaitken on Jan 12, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We will show the stupid Americans who le clutzy frog, eh?"
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by Peter de Chatham on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
It’s BONJOURRRRRRRRRRRRRR
You cheese eating surrender monkeys.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
I beat you all to it
IT’S IN THE LINKS
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Yeah but who reads those?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, your title was a bit bossy so I didn’t bother reading them.
Hey anyone know if the latest power rankings are out?
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Shouldn’t you be at work?
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At the Car Cat Wash?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Nay.
Half time on an LTO, and then teaching night school. I have mornings to myself.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You got the accént wrong.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
winter classic
Biggest hurdle is ncaa rules about alcohol consumption at campus facilities as well as pro sporting events (the nfl used stanford stadium for a game after the 89 earthquake, they used tcf bank stadium after the metrodome roof collapsed and the saints played three home games at lsu stadium after katrina but all were booze free inside the stadium). Coors Molson would be shut out.
This game is too much of a cash machine not to invite Toronto. The Leafs have more corporate sponsors than any team in the league.
Plus the alumni game is easily an event in itself that they could fill the stadium for.
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by torleafsfan29 on Jan 12, 2012 9:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
A Leafs vs Red Wings Winter Classic would be fucking awesome.
If they are becoming more concerned with the event itself, and not so much the TV ratingd, then I see no reason why not to do this.
they can market it as an original six rivalry going back decades, etc. etc. It’s marketable.
by Goosemonster on Jan 12, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t the TV ratings be fairly decent anyways though?
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by whyevenbother on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
In Canada, absolutely?
In the US? There’s a reason no Canadian teams are ever on NBC.
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I know it’s iffy but if a canadian team is going to make the WC my money would be on Toronto.
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I agree but I would still imagine US ratings to be not as good as if you had the Hawks, Pens, Caps of Flyers in the game.
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Burke, the blustery American GM, Wilson the caustic American coach, Phil Kessel the best American player in the game right now.
If 24/7 happens, that could go a long way to selling the Leafs/Wings to an American audience, I think.
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Just calling everyone on the opposition French. Haha, and to think Mirtle got a ride over an inoccuous Latvia comment…
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Latvia comment?
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He made a joke about the Marchand shanny video also being offered in french by saying that Latvian was next.
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Ahh. Silly, silly Mirtle. Isn’t Marchand French?
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So in other words making a Marchand video in French makes total and complete sense. Gotchya.
Honestly though with NHL teams only in cities that are (officially) either French or English I can see a legitimate argument that all videos should be offered in both languages…
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He is. Has a French name. Thats about it.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 12, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
And like all us good Nova Scotians, he plays a “unique” brand of hockey.
Psycho… but unique.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to sign Bryzgalov
Just for the Grabs and Bryzgalov interviews.
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they really need to put a team in there that hasn’t had a winter classic before. Hasn’t each classic at least had one team that hadn’t had one before?
Buffalo – Pittsburgh – both new
Chicago – Detroit – both new
Boston – Philly – both new
Pittsburgh – Wash – one new
Philly – New York – One new
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The teams have to both be contenders though, you need to have a good match for the fans.
Vancouver could be a team, but their only rivals, other than Chicago and (now) Boston (if thats a rival) are in Western Canada.
It would have to be Vancouver – Chicago, Vancouver – Boston, or Toronto – Detroit
by Ben Schnell on Jan 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh vancouver boston please don’t mind while I vomit profusely everywhere
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Boston vs Canucks have to play in Saskatoon so that it’s fair to both fan bases in terms of travel.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Boston/Vancouver Game 1 had higher ratings than any Chicago/Philadelphia game in the US.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Stanley Cup Finals game had higher ratings than any other hockey games? Colour me surprised.
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Higher than any Chicago/Philadelphia game from last year’s finals.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
That logic doesn’t work: Versus shows the Leafs once a year. If all of the Canadians in America watched the Leafs on national TV and got good ratings they’d show the Canadian teams more often.
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Except they could probably get pretty good ratings selling this as a U.S vs Canada thing, plus all the Canadians that have retired to the sunbelt
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I think the big thing is all the retirees in the sun belt might help offset it all. Not to mention like the Yankees, the Leafs are very well known around the world. Aren’t most teams best attendance games against the Leafs? at least down south?
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Answer
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hmm interesting, guess it was my imagination… still though Leafs Nation is huge and not just in Canada
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
ehh when they play in philly, pitts, NJ and long island 15 times a year. The numbers get skewed as the first 2 have packed arenas.
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Wouldn’t that make the Leafs higher?
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not necessarily.
US folks: how hard is to get from NYC to nassau coliseum or newark?
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The Big House is surrounded by huge parking lots. Let’s all tailgate and get plastered!!!!
Besides, it’ll be cold so just put a fifth of whiskey under your coat. Problem solved.
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I don’t think the objection is so much that “people won’t drink” but that “people won’t pay Molson and Coors a lot of money to drink”
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
PPP TAILGATE PARTY!!!!!!
Ill fucking be there, even if I cant get tickets to the game and have to stream it in the parking lot.
I’ll definitely be going. I’ll pay out the wazoo for a ticket.
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I went to Notre Dame – Michigan there while in college and was had to stand the whole time, lest I be forced to literally sit on the laps of the people next to me.
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I went to some UNC games when I was working there and it was the same story. Bleacher seats suck, but none of those schools would ever put in individual seating.
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I was at the UM-OSU game there this year and it was pretty much the same deal. Nice and Cozy
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
We will stand and hug and sing.
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 10:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To be followed by that other long-time favourite:
We shall fall down, bellow and puke.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll be in Toledo for Christmas, 45 minute drive up to AA. You damn right I’d be there.
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I’ll be in Toledo for Christmas
I’m sorry.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
You’d break up with him if he wore red wings gear, right?
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But how can I purchase a $9 pint!?!??!?!
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
They’ll sell beer there. The NHL will cut a deal with the university.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Whoosh
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by BCapp on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, it wasn’t that good of a joke
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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The joke isn’t that the joke was funny.
The joke is that birky totally missed the joke.
Cynically Sarcastic
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What’s funniest is you and Leafer arguing about it.
wipes away tears of joyful laughter
no wait. that was pain
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
And guess what???!!!
* fail *
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I plan on going to a house party and staying warm before I freeze my ass off during the game.
They generally do pat downs to get in the stadium, a trick to get booze in, assuming you’re allowed to bring in a water bottle with the seal attached (not sure about UM, but you can at MSU): Poke a hole in the bottom of the water bottle and drain the water, fill bottle with whatever clear booze you want, hot glue or melt the plastic to close the hole
There are no NCAA rules about selling alcohol at sporting events. Those restrictions are placed by the University. Actually, many NCAA schools have either begun or are considering selling beer at football games, including Rutgers, UNC, and others.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
It’s actually a Big 10 rule; no booze at on-campus sporting events.
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BU sells beer at hockey games.
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 10:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have a buddy who has already got together with 14 of his pals and booked hotel rooms in Ann Arbor for that weekend.
/talkaboutbeingproactive
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Good plan. I pretty much have to attend this game if it happens.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Why next year :( I would’ve loved to go but my family is doing Christmas/new years in Hawaii next year so I’ll be drunk on a beach watching the game instead
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
PPP should go as a group. i’m sure we could get killer rates that way.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Over/Under on how many of us end up in prison?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
If they sell group tickets we’ll do it. Can’t believe I might fly to Detroit.
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cross one off the bucket list.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
If it helps, you’re not gonna be flying to detroit, but rather “Romulus” which is about 15 miles outside the city limits (proper).
/tomato-tomata
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Don’t worry, the airport is actually closer to Ann Arbor that it is Detroit.
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Yeah, it’s actually about exactly halfway.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
If you can properly pronounce Ypsilanti, you’ve ousted yourself as having living in Michigan.
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If yu kin spel “lived,” youve oted yrslef for goan to scool in Michigian.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m from Grosse Pointe and attended MSU. I laugh because almost all of my friends went to UM and I have a better job than most of them.
If you know anything about Grosse Pointe, you wouldn’t ask that question.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
If you know anything about Skinny, you wouldn’t back-talk him like that.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I went to school in Flint son. FLINT!
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isn’t that where the Flint Gears used to play?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Punch
Made you say Saginaw
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I always noticed a spark in you.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
Internet Champ. I'm on Twitter too! - draglikepull
by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ugh
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by Bower Power on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Awful.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 12, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You really did? highschool, college?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
ahaa… have a bunch of buddies that went there and was 1 click away from going myself until I realized they wanted me to pay “out of state” tuition because I didn’t have my greencard at the time.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
You dodged a bullet there.
Seriously, students are robbed at gunpoint like every other week.
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Why the hell did you got hen?
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Were you a Michigan resident at the time?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
So did you get around paying the out of state tution or did you break the bank to go there?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
They have Ohio specific scholarships because Kettering himself is from there.
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Interesting. Just wondering because at the time (circa 2003), instate tution + room/board was like $20,000/year. I got a scholarship too off about 8 grand a year, but they wanted me to pay the out of state tution which at the time was $34 grand. I was like, no thank you.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks to the co-op program, I came out with only $2500 in debt. Booyah!
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Thats good. Most of the people I know came out with + $80 grand, and we’re working at the same company and same money
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
They were all at Amurrican schools, I take it?
I graduated both my undergrad and teachers’ college with $0 of debt.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
According to a CBC report I saw 2 yeears ago average was high 20s in Canada.
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Sounds about right.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Just checked Statscan
A report from 2005 states that average was 18, 800.
(Table 8 on page 15)
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Congrats, me too. Both undergrad and graduate with $0 debt.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
were you living at home in UG?
i went into debt so I could leave home, go to the school I wanted, and experience life on my own. i don’t regret it at all.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
both i suppose
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. I’m not ashamed to admit I lived at home for UG. Very smart financial decision (saved tons for college, house, vacation, and wedding). I still got to travel all over while doing it.
…But to each their own. My situation at home was pretty good, for that I’m thankful. Not everyone can say that.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I can believe it.
A bunch of Academy nerds living in a ghost town full of bums that repeatedly places ahead of places like compton and cambden for most danderous city in the US.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
My favorite was the 1-legged homeless man that always asked for rides.
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I had a guy in one of my classes once that was a former narcotics unit cop in Flint. He sure had some stories to tell.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I drove through Flint last year on the way to a canoe trip, we got lost looking for the Walmart to buy beer/food.. its a shithole
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
There’s your mistake. You want to drive south of Flint on 75 (south of 69) to the exit just before the 75-23 split where there’s a huge Meijers.
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…and then once you get past that junction don’t stop until you get out of Pontiac.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I think we tried getting off there but missed the exit then tried to double back and got lost. I’m assuming that is where there is a row of big stores right off the side of the highway?
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
The Halo burger "Veggie Burger"
It’s every topping they have on a bun. That’s it.
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I actually really enjoyed that movie.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 12, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Cusack’s second best film – soundtrack kicks all kinds of ass too
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 12, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’m hoping that you agree his best film was High Fidelity
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I’m guessing you haven’t seen The Grifters.
Either you have an enviable memory, or a pitiable life, to know nothing of regret.
- Sten, of the Qunari
by GreatKingRat on Jan 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Never seen it, but I’d say his best is Max, followed by GPB.
by LeafInVancouver on Jan 12, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I’m from Grosse Pointe
Yuppie
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
it’s possibly the place (mack avenue) that is the most stark in contrast in regards to social boundaries in the US. You go from ritzy country clubs on one side of the street to sheer ghetto on the other side.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yale, MI?
Actually I have :P
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, I know. I knew that it wasn’t necessarily in the most pleasant of neighborhoods, but does it really compare to the east side of Detroit?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Did you know that outside of the city 8 Mile Rd is a pleasant dirt road among corn fields?
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I am aware of this, but even in the city, relative to the rest of whats south of it, I mile is actually quite nicely maintained. I mean, all the strip clubs add a classy look to the place no?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve always wondered who wants to go to those kind of places. Who wants to be in that country club and walk out the front door or look out the window and see a slum?
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It’s scary how clear that dividing line is (Wife’s family lives in Grosse Pointe)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Is it not
Ipp-si-lawn-tee?
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DODO DO DO DO
DION PHANEUF
DO DO DO DO DODO
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Jan 12, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
new goal… we have to try and get Brian Burke to come tailgate with us… or sit with us if we can get a entire section. Drunk Brian Burke at the winter Classic would be awesome.
And by we I mean you guys since I wont be there :’(
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I propose after a goal we see how many rows down we end up while celebrating.
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What was it at the NCAA Championship game? 3 rows down onto some Cornell fans?
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Falling down four rows or more should be called “The Leafer”.
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet you I could go for 6 rows
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Are playing name that tune or something? We should just fuckin’ tidal wave down the whole goddamn bowl when the Leafs score.
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oh man, someone’s gonna die.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
You’re a dick
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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YAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by pho king awesome on Jan 12, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Five Awful Things I Learned About Winnipeg from Wikipedia.
Read this now.
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Meg’s wiki articles are always awesome.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
This got a big smile
Aside from that, though, I assumed that most of the crime in Winnipeg was probably minor Canadian stuff. You know what I mean: driving while under the influence of poutine, moose-jackings, stuff like that.
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He forgot “Assault of the coach that wouldn’t give my son first-line minutes.”
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
Thats not a crime in Canada, its an accepted practice.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
You haven’t seen the “relax it’s just a game” commercials.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
JUST A GAME? JUST A GAME? THIS IS MY KIDS CAREER WE’RE TALKING ABOUT!!! HE NEEDS TO MAKE 100 MILLION IN THE NHL SO I CAN LIVE THROUGH HIM!
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
For best results, read to One Great City!.
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by Bower Power on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Okay well I just finished that
That is the funniest thing I have read/seen in 2012
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You know your city sucks when L.A mocks you for your crime rate.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Tim Connolly back at practice today.
Really was a maintenance day.
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Doctor says he needs a backiotomy.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
/slow clap
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Sorry I'm Late....
That was a lot of reading
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
by Curt S on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
A look at defensemen who’ve been moved recently.
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No.
Knowledge is it’s own reward.
* eats sandwich *
* crumbs fall *
* delicious crumbs *
* drools *
* wishes he could read *
* makes another delicious sandwich *
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeah dude.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well were boned - @SeanFitz_Gerald
Jonas Gustavsson just took a Matthew Lombardi shot off his right shoulder. Looks like it stung, but he’s still in net late in practice.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
I think you are forgetting how good January Reimer really is.
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Friendly reminder:
Despite Gustavsson’s weeks of fantastic play Reimer’s still the same guy he’s always been. He got torched on the PK for a while.
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Realistically to be a solid playoff team we SHOULD have two good goalies.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think he means to make the playoffs, we need two good goalies during the regular season.
by TheOtherAndrew on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
This.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Anaheim did in 07 Bryz started the first few games of the first round before Giggy took over IIRC
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Schneider came in handy for the Canucks.
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by Bower Power on Jan 12, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Edmonton rode their backup to glory … oh wait, nevermind.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 12, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’ve forgotten how the leafs last won the cup
by hardfoot57 on Jan 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Reimer scares easily. But he will be back, and with better numbers.
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by SPERO on Jan 12, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
This has an insufficient number of recs.
by LeafInVancouver on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
You KNOW that the first game Reimer goes back in is the game the Leafs return to taking 6 penalties per game.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
by BlindSight on Jan 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Oh well. His PKSV% won’t stay at .750 forever.
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I’m under the impression that the second Reimer gets his next chance he is taking back the net. That being said I hope Gus can maintain his current numbers. I have absolutely no problem with having 2 goalies posting above .900
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If Gus plays extremely well against Buffalo, and Reimer also plays extremely well against NYR do you give Reimer back the net?
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
If Gus plays well Friday i’m convinced he will play Saturday.
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Really? You dont want to run him down. Although Buffalo is really close.
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Wilson said you win your in. I think he means it literally. If Gus keeps winning he will keep playing.
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Reimer got a back to back after his return. This doesn’t seem any different
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
next time Reimer plays I predict he’ll either get a shutout, or let in 1 goal at most.
then we’re going to have a goaltending ‘controversy’. which really means, we’ll have two guys who can play the position.
it’s gonna be awesome.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
If he was his usual “crummy” on the PK instead of “holy shit don’t let that guy play during penalties” Reimer would be above .920.
Gus is above .920 for the past month-ish.
COME ON END OF SEASON RUN.
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Reimer really never played that badly, but he did need some time to regroup I think. I have no doubt that he’ll come back and play well.
If the D can play as well as they have the last few games, there’s no reason we don’t slot above 8th in the East (probably more like 6th).
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jonas Siegel
jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Lupul and Kessel have been named to the All-Star team.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
*slow clap
We did it Leafs fans, we finally have stars.
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You know he is gonna savour this especially after being cast away by the Ducks. Good for him he thoroughly deserves this.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 12, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by pho king awesome on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Booyah
Brian Elliott is in.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 12, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ho boy
Toews, Hossa, AND Kane for Chicago.
This could mean no Ovechkin.
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who’s be their rep?
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit, Backstrom of course
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
And yet…
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by Bower Power on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
They all really deserve it
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fo sure yo, we got three deserving All -Stars as well
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 12, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Geesh, Sharp will never get any love on that team!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel should send a pick of himself giving the finger at the all-star game to Ovechkin.
assuming Ovie doesn’t make the cut.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 12, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
He should take a picture of an empty chair and send it to him with the caption “Still waiting for someone to pick you”
by WizardofNaz on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Mark my words: there will be laughter
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I’m guessing Ovechkin makes it. NHL spent a lot of money marketing him as the face of the league.
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Is there an official/unofficial list somewhere or just all the tweets going around?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=611247
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So, kinda sucks that Gardiner didn’t make the rookie pool. How many rookie D-men are playing better than him?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 12, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Like, in the adult one?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Trolling Leafs fans.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
IN: Ovechkin
OUT: Backstrom
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Ovechkin gets added for pity, oh boy.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
This is almost better than him not being named.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
He was added so he could be picked last.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck, whoever picks him should say:
And from the Washington Captials, We pick Nicklas Back…………….WTF do you mean he’s not here?………………Who’s here from the Caps?……..Ovechkin?………..How did that choker get in?………..Dammit.
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to be fair, Kessel made it last year when Grabbo was playing better and should have made it in instead.
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But I don’t think he was playing better based on boxcar stats (IIRC), so it is less surprising. Look at Ovie vs Backstrom in boxcar and it is quite clear who is playing better.
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Teams also have a say in who goes. Last year Burke wanted Kessel at the game, which is why he was there.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Is this a fact or just suspected?
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I saw it reported somewhere last year when Kessel was the Leafs’ selection, but I don’t know how you would be able to confirm it aside from directly asking a GM or the league.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 12, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Call his mom?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01.html
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01.html
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01.html
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01.html
http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gomezsc01.html
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
maverlous! could have actually even gone with “but” instead of “buts”.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Money well spent.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I own:
Kadri
Schenn
Armstrong
Scott Gomez
Jacques Demers
Bryan Murray
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:slow clap:
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, now realistically, Who’s going to get picked last?
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Named Captain. Refuses to draft anyone but Lupul and Phaneuf. Leafs still win.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think Iggy gets captain, Alfie the other because of hometown
Spezza and either Michalek or Karlsson will be Alfies Alternates
Chara and Weber will be Iggy’s
I just want to see Phil Kessel pick players. Awkward level to the max.
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So awkward.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel: “Ummmmmm… Bozie.”
NHL Rep: “He’s not here Phil you can’t pick him.”
Kessel: “Oh. Ummmm…. Bozie?”
Bozak: “I’m just watching the game Phil pick somebody else!”
Kessel: “Um. Pass.”
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by Chemmy on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Kessel is totally the guy who when he was captain of teams in school/pick-up would pick his best friends first, no matter how much they sucked.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Not true!
Phil Kessel doesn’t pass.
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by birky on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Chicken dinner.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel: “O.k then, ummm Ovechkin.”
And then Ovechkin goes on stage and rips off a mask mission impossible style, Showing Bozak underneath. Then Kessel will high five Bozak as he goes to sit down.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 12, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
This is what I’m holding out for!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Just be cool, Phil Ju. be cool…..
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 12, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit I’m on tv aren’t I.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Im hoping a Sens player get picked last in their hometown.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 12, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Ovechkin should get picked last.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
Pominville is having a great year.
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in Buffalo, that’s like being the shiniest turd in the pile.
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Pominville and Vanek are single-handedly carrying the team. They’re the only reason we aren’t worse than columbus.
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
Yikes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Literally the only four people that score are Leopold, Pominville, Vanek, and whoever centers them
As long as 70 minutes of ice time is being doled out to AHLers and Matt Ellis, the Sabres are basically doomed
Ubi, you seem like a top-notch guy and are a rare friendly link between Leafs and Sabres fans, but:
obligatory:
He’s a Flyers fan.
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by BCapp on Jan 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Phaneuf and Iggy as captains. Would be awesome.
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Unfortunately won’t happen, hometown guy gets at least one……….my guess is Phaneuf and Alfie
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That picture is like a jumbled mess shade of grey. I’m guessing it’s the view out the window of his hotel room in Buf?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a massive fog bank. I think it might be a picture of the window of a bus/plane.
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Ron Wilson is coming on TSN1050 in 6 mins
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“It’s basically a case where TML have interest in JVR or any other big forward that could play in their top 6. I don’t know that necessarily Schenn is being offered, but nothing’s imminent, nothing’s on the front burner in that regard. […] Not saying that there’s no interest in Luke Schenn, I just don’t think there’s a burning desire […] to reunite the brothers. […] I don’t think that the Toronto Maple Leafs made any formal offers to Phili that included Luke Schenn […]. Have they had trade talks? Yeah, I’m sure they have, but […].”
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