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As I sit on the couch watching the Packers - Giants game on Sunday afternoon it's 0-0 between Washington and Carolina. A Capitals win knocks Toronto down to 9th place and since I've been a Leafs fan for a long time I'm pretty sure you're reading this tomorrow morning while I'm asleep on the West Coast saying "what the fuck Toronto?".

There are some things that bug me, for sure, the Kessel-Lupul duo has been the benefit of some puck luck and their recent three game power outage has shown us how ugly it can get without them lighting the lamp constantly. Jonas Gustavsson's past two starts are something I hope he forgets despite his recent run of incredible play.

That said there are some good things for the Leafs.

Star-divide

Despite his poor overall SV% James Reimer's even strength SV% is the same as it was last year. I think we can expect that to even out as the season moves on. The narrative will be that Reimer takes back his net and leads the Leafs on another second half charge.

We all know Brian Burke is going to make a move. Our concerns about the Leafs' Fenwick percentage isn't something that's likely to have slipped by Burke, he's been a speaker at the Sloan Sports Conference: he's aware of advanced metrics for the Leafs. He's not done improving this team.

Toronto very well might sit in 9th this week but they're still in the hunt. Isn't that what we all hoped for?

JAKE GARDINER SENT TO THE MARLIES

Jonathan Willis compares how Wilson deploys Keith Aulie and Jake Gardiner and points out one reason why Gardiner is the one going down.

ASKED AND ANSWERED: WEEKEND WITH BURKIE

Brian Burke and his PR intern are hard at work collaborating with PPP on tweetbags.

Defending Byzantium

A devastating destruction of Gare Joyce's attention-grabbing cover story about the demise of the Habs' empire for Sportsnet's magazine.

Don Cherry's comment on the Leaf coaches: where do you stand?

I wouldn't mind knowing what Wilson did to Cherry to earn the sobriquet 'Napoleon' and unending enmity.

Versteeg sounds off on Leafs

Long story short: fuck that guy.

Is Joffrey Lupul's Current Play Sustainable?

As long as he keeps on Kessel's good side.

Garry Valk: Luke Schenn Has Asked To Be Traded

Check out this (upside down) video. I'm banking on it being absolute bullshit but it sure is a weird tidbit to drop.

Who Are You?

An interesting fanpost by somny

What's The Problem With The Leafs' PK? (Part 1)

In case you missed it.

CRACKS IN THE DRAFTING?

Taking a look at the Oilers' recent drafts

Skepticism I

Missed this the first time around but it's hilarious that Damien Cox doesn't understand simple fractions.

Wherein I'm sure I'll get slapped around in the comments

Tyler Dellow discusses the nature of NHL ownership and it's implication for competition and fans. Also, a fucking Leafs dig.

2011-12 NHL Records B2B Nights

The Leafs do not do well on the latter half. No kidding.

PK Subban and Michael Del Zotto

Did PK spit on Del Zotto? Hard to see his eyes through his visor. Could just be spitting on the ice.

The 2011-2012 Edmonton Oilers Drinking Game

WARNING: You will die if you try this.

Don't Expect the Anaheim Ducks to Overhaul Their Roster at the Trade Deadline

5-0-1 in their last six is putting the Ducks well on their way to climbing out of the lottery. Dummies.

LeafsTV, MLSE: Take the Fans Behind the Scenes of the Toronto Maple Leafs

Hopefully these dreams will come true with the official confirmation that the Leafs are in the Winter Classic.

How a punk band stepped up to rescue financially struggling hockey team

These guys love their sports.

Blow Oilers up some more

Oh hey! One of the Edmonton MSM has finally realised that Steve Tambellini stinks.

Ricky Gervais' Best Jokes From The Golden Globes

Sure wasn't as good as last year.

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Wow lots of links! Thanks

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 7:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ya I’m satisfied with our outcome too. It’s what happened in the non-Toronto games that screwed us.

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 7:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For their next five they play Ottawa, Minnesota, Montreal and the Islanders at home and then the Islanders on the road. Fairly easy schedule. What is the goal for them over those 5 games?

They should win both games against the Islanders. If they intend on keeping Montreal out of the playoff race that is a must win. Hopefully they can split against Ottawa/Minnesota so I’ll suggest 4 wins should be the target.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 16, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Ideally a sweep but I’m looking for 8 points, preferably 4ROWs

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Time to Reimer to reel off 4 straight of his own

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 16, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll have what he’s having.

by the_walrus on Jan 16, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

anything you can do i can do better.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I can do anything better than you.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 16, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

no you can’t

Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.

by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

No you can’t

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Better than anyone!

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s not Mike Weaver.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well come on, let’s not set our standards too high here.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

no you can’t

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

With the Leafs powerplay seemingly improved (/crosses fingers) Reimer is going to look like a hero again this second half

by pho king awesome on Jan 16, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, 4 out of 5 over that stretch would be great. Pretty doable too.

by TheOtherAndrew on Jan 16, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

We should be able to beat OTT with a solid defensive effort. NYI should be two wins but we always tend to have a tough time against them. MTL is ripe for the picking right now, and Minny is a toss-up. They could be great, they could put up a stinker.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Four wins is a want. Three wins is a must.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

With that schedule 3 wins is an absolute minimum. You don’t gain any ground with just 3 wins on a relatively easy schedule. If they are serious about the playoffs more should be their goal and anything less than 3 wins is completely unacceptable.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 16, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

3 wins minimum. We should win both Islanders games, and the Montreal game. And if we really consider ourselves a playoff team, we should beat Ottawa or at least get a point of a game against them. Minnesota…eh. I think we can beat them, but you only if the Leafs A team really shows up.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Some may make noise, but sitting in 7th with Pittsburgh and Washington behind Toronto was always a “uh oh” scenario. If you didn’t see it coming, I don’t know what to think. But there is a bright spot, Florida’s last ten games: 3-5-2 and only a point up on the Leafs. New Jersey has a fairly similar recent record as the Leafs an only two points up. There are catchable teams, so 9th one point out, is just fine with me.

However, Ottawa going 8-1-1 in their last ten? What the hell is that? It’s going to take a huge collapse for them to miss now, it seems. Better get use to that fact.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

I think Toronto is really in competition with Florida and New Jersey, and to a lesser extent Winnipeg and Ottawa, for the last couple of playoff spots. I just can’t imagine Pittsburgh and Washington finishing that low in the standings.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

If I had to guess which three teams get the bottom three spots, I’d say NJ, TOR, FLA. I don’t think Ottawa makes the playoffs.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

The Devils are something like 8-1 in shootouts. I’d expect them to fall off before the Sens.

by samspade on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t rule out Buffalo either. They have the talent (especially if Miller gets hot) to real off an 8-1-1 streak and get back into the playoff race and they are only 6 points back from the Leafs. Plus they have an owner that won’t sit tight watching his team lose and may be willing to over pay (in terms of prospects and draft picks) to add to his roster and might even be willing to stash Boyes and his $4M contract in the AHL to free up cap space.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

man I wish we could get on a 8-1-1 streak :(

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Florida, Jersey and Ottawa should fail. Sadly, Ottawa may not.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Ottawa has a pretty decent lead

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I admit that I’m just partially gut-feeling this, but I don’t think Michalek or Karlsson can keep up their scoring pace for a full season, and their goaltending is awful. Also, their defence might be the worst in the league.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Their goaltending is not awful, Anderson is actually a pretty good ’tender. He started slow and has rebounded now (behind what you called an awful defense).

Over the past 4 years he does pretty well at S%. He is 15th in overall save percentage with a 0.915 (of goalies who played 100+ GP over that time) ahead of guys like MAF, Kipper, and Bryzgalov.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Also a look at Anderson's 2 halves to his season

Through game 17 Ottawa had 7 wins. Through the next 29 GP Ottawa had 18 more wins.

Through those first 17 games? Anderson had a 0.883. Through the next 29 Anderson had 0.920

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh, Anderson’s numbers have come up a lot more than I thought. If he goes on a good run, like he sometimes seems to, then I think their chances of making the playoffs are considerably increased.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I think he is a pretty solid goalie. I was upset when the Sens acquired both him and Michalek because I liked both players.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He is a pretty good goalie, and I think part of the reason they’ve been doing well. |That and they seem to have a really good team mentality – their record when coming from behind is astounding.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m putting my money in for Ottawa making the playoffs. I never would have believed it before, but I really don’t see them going on a prolonged losing streak, they seem to have ae much better team than they were given credit for, combined with stats that are unsustainable over a long period of time (but possible for teh whole year – look at MGK last year)

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh is missing Letang, Crosby, and Staal and last year required a Herculean effort in the second half by the incosistent MAF. If MAF is off his game I can see them missing the playoffs.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Last years run came with Reimer getting his first start of the year against the Senators, just saying

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

woah linkage to PPP?? this is rare!

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

Ovechkin rapping

(in russian)
Turns out its not that bad :P
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/alex-ovechkin-drops-verse-champion-russian-rapper-sasha-003200706.html
translated lyrics copied from article:

Alumni of Dynamo
8 on the back.
In the All-Star game all attention is on me.

On the NatTeam since 17
Scored 100 points in a season
Gold medal in Canada in ’08

Among the ten best players of the decade,
Stick in my hands, Rap in my headphones,
Saying hello from Washington,
Together with Sanya Belyi,
For every champion

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

formatting fail
Alumni of Dynamo
8 on the back.
In the All-Star game all attention is on me.
On the NatTeam since 17
Scored 100 points in a season
Gold medal in Canada in ’08
Among the ten best players of the decade,
Stick in my hands, Rap in my headphones,
Saying hello from Washington,
Together with Sanya Belyi,
For every champion

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, Kessel may have been overtaken for looking awkward on camera.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 16, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey

when running a team, always play %‘s, because you know that’s what gamblers do and hockey is so much like poker….isn’t it?

by dsciswe on Jan 16, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

wait what? What are you even referring to?

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

the other thing

Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.

by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

and nothing in particular.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

and the kitchen sink.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 16, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Your an idiot

Everyone knows you go with your gut playing poker

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I know I only have 9 - 3 off suit, but I BELIEVE it will work out.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Most frustrating poker hand ever was when I went all-in on pocket aces and lost to a guy who called me with 8-3 unsuited but then hit two 3s for three of a kind.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I assume he didnt get them on the flop. JeezI feel you. I’ve been somewhere similar to that. They gotta get another way to filter those types of players out as the game continues.

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fish keep feeding the sharks. Any idiot can get lucky in a single hand but in the long run skill always wins

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

In the long run, we’re all dead. – JMK

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Over a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everybody drops down to zero

If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach

by Ghostsof on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

you don’t win money if those types of players are removed from the game.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Poker players might play the percentages, but that’s not necessarily what gamblers do.

Paedophiles are using an area of internet the size of Ireland.

by article1 on Jan 16, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

another classic by Dsciswe

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Schenn

My gut is that Valk simply misunderstood the whole ordeal, but considering Valk’s prior history with the organization, I think it’s at least possible there’s something there.

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by birky on Jan 16, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn’t know Bill Berg Gary Valk if I ran over him with my car

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 16, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Valk heard “Schenn and Burke talked”, didn’t know the whole story, and badly misunderstood. Schenn just signed a big contract and is playing on a probable playoff team for the first time in his career. I really doubt he would ask for a trade.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Not so certain

I’m certain when the MSM got wind of the JVR/Schenn trade rumours, Burke probably had a talk with Schenn and based on what was circulating in the media, Valk probably attributed this Schenn wanting out/being told he might be moved.

Do I believe it’s true that Schenn asked to be moved? No.

Lifelong Leafs Fan living in Habs Country.

by JeanValjean on Jan 16, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Another thing is since those rumours, JVR is out indefiniately with a concussion and maybe that ended all trade talk, just like Rene bourque’s suspension

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Bork

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is Burke is waiting on Schenn to rant against his teammates and then the trade will be completed.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You missed the part about the trade being midway through the second period of a game.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 16, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Getzlaf a Leaf yet?

Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

no but there’s “speculation” that a trade will happen soon.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be fair to speculate

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

here at PPP, we do NOT speculate. Instead, we rosterbate.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

We don’t masterlate?
Damn I’ve been doin it wrong!

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Any way for me to get notified of said trade (or any other Leafs trade) without neurotically checking this site

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 16, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh man just picked up my copy of the star and looks like Rosie dimanno decided to write an article on the leafs today. Oh boy. Should be fun.

Eat your waffles, kid.

by HomeMadeWaffles on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Haha just read it, basically, the Leafs lost Saturday because the Rangers are bigger therefore, the Leafs should get bigger centers

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Rosie - An honest to God, 21st Century, Twit.

Rosie’s analysis? Toronto’s not big enough at Center.

What evidence? Loss to the Rangers.

Toronto’s actual record against the NYR this season? 2-1-0. That’s right, 2-1-0.

How many small centers in the league succeed? Gee. That Gretzky was ok. And Dougie. But of today’s top scorers? Well, there’s RNH. That Russian kid, Datsyuk. The giant Stamkos. Those heavyweights, Sedin and Seguin.

What’s the point? Basically, Rosie likes to talk tough, comment on all that bulging, muscled, male flesh she sees, talk about violence and size and toughness, and play like a 50’s chick.

Hate her worse than Cox. If a man wrote a single one of Rosie’s pieces they’d be fired immediately, for incompetence and blatant sexual stereotyping.

Did I mention I hate Rosie? Oh. Ok.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs have beat the Rangers 4-2 twice this season and lost once 3-0. But apparently the one loss is a sign that we need to change our roster and the two wins are meaningless.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Just playing to the narrative of “the fans are pushing the panic button because we lost both games this weekend”

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

By the way, how much to rent that space? I’ve got some opinions about Chemmy that need more air-time, and I’m afraid to voice them myself.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

We have very reasonable rates. Send an email into the sales office and we’ll have a representative contact you shortly.

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope most fans live somewhere between panic and complacency. Being in 9th place might still be “everything is fin” but if a team can’t acknowledge they need to improve their game to become more competitive then chances are they continue to play the same way and finish in about that spot.

by jeffgm on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

everything is fin

As in we’re “finished”?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

nah as in we’re a shark waiting to bite.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Rangers did expose a weakness that Burke has long talked about.

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by birky on Jan 16, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

They did, leafs have no muscle up front. I’m talking COlton Orr muscle, I’m talking skilled forwards with size

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

which is what Burke has been saying, and I actually agree. We had no resposne to to the Rangers’ physical game, really. Not that colton orr would have remotely helped – just we need size + skill, not just size.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, rangers have a good set of skill + size. Callahan, Dubinsky, even Boyle in his role is big and good. and while he’s fragile, gaborik is really strong—he doesnt hit much but he’s sturdy in a crosby style

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t want to switch fully back to the forechecking we were doing earlier TBH, I just think we need to be more versatile, and more and more I believe that will mean bringing in some other forwards.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I fucked up. I meant to say
I’m NOT talking COlton Orr muscle

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

My hope is Colborne can be that guy. He really used the body when he was up with the Leafs.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Why didn’t they expose it the first two times they played? What they did last night doesn’t sound any different from the strategy Tortorella laid out during 24/7 before one of the games the Rangers lost to the Leafs.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Are the leafs as bad a team as they showed on Saturday? Probably not. It doesn’t negate the fact that they have a glaring weakness up front

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

MGK looked pretty good to me that game and they’re not that big.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

they play like they’re big – Kulemin and Grabbo both forecheck hard.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. SO maybe size isn’t the right word. They need a top 6 power forward. Kulemin is getting there and after him they dont have anyone who is close other than Army who is always hurt and even he isn’t really top 6

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically we need a guy who can be a wrecking ball physically, but also can keep up with Kessel. He has to have good hands and a high hockey IQ to know when to shoot and when to dish. He also needs to be able to dominate the cycle, take the puck off the half wall and drive the net, and have the vision to hit the seam pass when it becomes available.

Anybody got a DNA-combobulator? We need to fuse Crosby/Ovechkin/Lindros/Lemieux, stat.

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by stevesmith19 on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

as in we need to posess one?

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

we possess at least one unicorn. We require more unicorns.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

great burn. all these saps trying to click on it to minimize it.

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by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

all part of the plan folks.

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 16, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

all that's available:

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

We need a lucic/backes/benn guy. someone that is mean, and isnt necessarilly the most skilled (okay, benn is a bad example) but can make space

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Backes is pretty skilled. I read an interesting piece last week that showed that Backes compares pretty favourably to guys like Kesler and Bergeron.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I don’t watch him enough. Regardless though, I think those guys are as much feared for their heavy forecheck.. include M. Richards & maybe Jordan Staal as well, as they are for their offense. Those guys would be ideal with Kessel as they provide offense, but keep the other team honest

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Frattin should still be with the team

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Frattin + Colborne could make for an interesting combo, centerd by Steckel maybe.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

itd be better than all heart pk’r darryl boyce

by l3ojangles on Jan 16, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

we’ve got proven mediocre forwards who take his place unfortunately (e.g. the Lombardis, Crabbs and others on the team). It’s partly why I don’t mind moving a depth forward to bring up one of the young guys we want on our team going forward.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi is very useful player crabb doesnt need to be with the big club

by l3ojangles on Jan 16, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

To be honest given the salaries and current performance I’d take Crabb over Lombardi. Lombardi probably needs to be healthy for a camp, as he is a shell of his former self. He is mostly invisible, which is I guess okay for a 3rd liner – being defensively responsible – but I would have expected more offense from him. Even when his linemates scores, it’s not usually because of anything he did. Quite dissapointing, and for the 3.5$million in cap space I’d part with him quite easily to have a guy like Frattin up here (that still leaves us with 4 centres – Connolly, Bozak, Grabbo, Steckel)

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Couldn’t they have sent Lombardi to the minors on a conditioning stint?

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by Back In Black on Jan 16, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably, but Burke wouldn’t do that and having Frattin in the minors wont hurt us much this year. But next year he takes a spot that someone else should have, probably Colborne. So I have to think he goes if not at the deadline (probably not), then in July.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Who takes a 3.5M forward who has 1 goal?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you allowed to trade a player for a Cheeseburger? Because Burke might get hungry at some point and try.

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Besides, the guy comes back after missing a year with a concussion, then misses a month with a seperated shoulder. Lets give the guy a break.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve seen flashes of what Lombardi can do. Historically he’s a 50+ point guy who has a reputation for being excellent defensively.

I wanted the Leafs to sign him when Nashville did. He’s EXACTLY what Toronto needs, he’s just broken right now.

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by Chemmy on Jan 16, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t exactly what he needs, but he isn’t exactly the biggest problem on the team

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

the problem is he’s about 30 years old, and in his current capacity he doesn’t add that much compared to a younger guy. and he costs 3.5$ million. I’m not blaming him for our problems, but I don’t see his fit on our team at that salary and with his current play. I think he definitely plays better next year, but I’d prefer it be elsewhere.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

edit: he’s 29 now, but turns 30 this year.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I also wanted the Leafs to sign him when Nashville did, though our depth at forward then was much worse. I think he could possibly be a useful player again next year, or maybe even later this year, but at $3.5 million I also think his cap hit may be out of whack with where he fits in the Leafs depth chart.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately Iginla isn’t available.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

is he not? this would be the dream, too bad hes old now

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What blows my mind is that Sidney Crosby is actually a player that has all those attributes I mentioned. Maybe not the wrecking ball part, but he’s among the best in the world when it comes to the cycle. World class in every aspect of the game.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t care, I just hope he comes back playing well.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they saw what Boston did to us repeatedly.

just keep repeatedly hitting kessel as hard as you can. — I don’t even care if it’s interference or not, they won’t call it.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That game was very Boston-esque: wear us down physically, then capitalize on our defensive mistakes.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s why I think we would do very poorly against many teams in the east in the playoffs (but, of course, not the Sens) – a good team like NYR/Boston and even some teams like florida have demonstrated they can shut down our offense. And when you do that and play it safe, you just wait for us to cough up the puck. We’ll do it, guaranteed, given our youth on the blue line.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Vancouver did it, too. We just happened to be up against LOLuongo and thus could get 3 goals past him. Not to mention Detroit almost beat us with that same tactic after waking up in the second period.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, it’s why I continue to advocate more than just a tweak to the roster – IF there is a quality player available.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

but how much of this is strictly a roster problem? other coaches adapt the game plan based on the team. surely there’s a way to do better against those teams…

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s a roster problem. That’s why they’re the best teams in the league, there’s no way to consistently beat them without better players.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve expressed my frustration with our inability to adapt in the past, and you’re right it isnt just a roster problem. If you get totally shut down period 1, the coach shoudl be in the dressing room saying “alright, that plan didn’t work, let’s move to game plan B”, but it seems we just keep trying the same old, same old. But don’t get me wrong, when the same old works it can really, really work. We can dominate lesser teams with out quickness.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Is the problem that size up front matters?
Or that the up tempo style has the team flat in back to back games?

I don’t know the answer but the leafs did beat rangers twice this season.

by jeffgm on Jan 16, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed the 3rd period but one thing I noticed was the Leafs had trouble breaking out/dealing with the NYR forecheck. The D seemed to struggle making first passes on the tape because there were guys bearing down on them at all times. So, two things come to mind. D needed to be more mobile and/or quicker decision making, and forwards needed to come back and support the puck better. I don’t know how added size up front can remedy a problem like that.

Size up front would, however, help with maintaining possession in the offensive zone. Something else this team needs to improve on come playoff time.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

well, our speed was shut down and we couldnt really forecheck well enough to keep up a pressure in the offensive zone, so….yeah. It’s a problem we’ve had before this year. When our speed gets taken away, we have no workable backup solution and basically lose.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When your speed gets taken away you need to switch to a dump and chase, hard forechecking style. Leafs CAN NOT play that game.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s pretty much it. If a team solves our speed, we lose. And good teams can do that against us.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if not coaching then what? You are saying:

Leafs CAN NOT play that game.

which either means they aren’t coached to account for that situation, they don’t listen to the coaching they receive, or that somehow we have a bunch of players who are completely missing an important component of their game.

My point is just that: they need to adapt to this glaring weakness somehow, and maybe “good” coaching could help.

by GettinGiggy on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Coaches don’t control the overall roster, just call ups. We dont have the right roster to do that, me thinks.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

OR maybe they dont have the players in place to play that style.
Hey Kessel go dump and chase the puck, same with you Connolly, Bozak and Kadri.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now most of our offense is coming off the rush. Lombardi-Mac-Kadri has been able to generate a decent cycle but that line needs Matt Frattin on it to chase and retrieve the puck.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, however if you take away the rush the offence dies

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that’s not entirely true, as we have won games without, but mostly by moving the puck quickly in the offensive zone (though we’re no Detroit, obviously) – thats how LCK/LBK have still scored when the rush isnt as useful. But that clearly didnt work against the rangers.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the top two lines still play that style. I think we need one capable of maintaining possession. Thing is in both game against the Rangers the Top Line dominated in the offensive zone for large stretches.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember, that was ridiculous.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s tough to make decisions based on one or two losses. If the Leafs exhibit the same tendencies over a few more games, then yes. But the Rangers were the better team, were rested, and outworked the Leafs.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, no panic buttons here. But I don’t think we can brush off the holes that show on our team. Burke will undoubtedly make a trade to improve this team, its a question of who/when.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This has been noticeable all year, at least to my eyes.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, just saying it looks worse now. I also think that the management is aware of it.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Burke has been saying it all year. In fact, from 2010:

“He thought we got pushed around in a game and came right out of the dressing room and barked at me on the way to the weight room: ‘We need some bigger forwards in here,’ and kept walking,” Burke said. “I haven’t had too many guys bark at me like that. I didn’t mind it, and he’s right. We do need some bigger forwards.”

Burke on Phaneuf

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Steckel is a big guy, but his role is pretty specialized. I’m glad Burke hasn’t just tried to fill the gap with some crappy player who happens to be big.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been pretty clear about going for size AND skill, which is why I think the talk about JVR got heated so quickly – thats exactly the kind of guy he’d want. Not sure what other players that might be available fit that billing.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That was after like his third game as well, wasn’t it.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Something like that.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

♥ Dion.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The best part about that deal is that Burke’s made 2 or 3 more similarly one-sided deals.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You get it

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Captaining this team seems like it was his destiny.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I go back and read the thread when he got traded here every few months.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Chemmy:" I hope you all appreciate how truly fucking boned we are."

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re all wrong once in a while.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

not me.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Giguere was a boat anchor.

Phaneuf was godawful here for most of his first season and then remembered that he should be an NHL player and has been great since.

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by Chemmy on Jan 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Just funny is all.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If Phaneuf was still playing like he was in Calgary and his first half season here someone would have hit him with a bus already.

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by Chemmy on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He might wanna be careful just the same. Seemed like there were a real rash of TTC incidents in Toronto fairly recently.

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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

My heart is a flutter

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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 16, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

On a tangent, this offers a better reason why Versteeg was tradeable (too many lighter danglers on the leafs rather then bad attitude). He is a good 2 way player but not the desired size for grinding it out. And with top 6 lacking a grinder (save kulemin) then moving whoever offers the best return makes sense.

I like that story much more then bad attitude and drooling mouth guards.

by jeffgm on Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it shows how much we need the MGK line (or whatever combination) to get going again like they did last year, if such a thing is possible, or to make a trade that will result in a line with the dump / chase / cycle skillset to counteract the “shut down Kessel and kill the offense” strategy.

by GettinGiggy on Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

or, you wait until you draw a penalty, and hope you capitalize on the PP.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Liles really is that important. Or maybe our PP was scoring at a higher rate than it was likely to continue doing unless it could generate shots more consistently.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its 0-10 in the last 3 games but it went 1-1 vs Detroit and 1-2 vs Winnipeg so overall 2-13 in the last 5 games. Pretty respectable – like the PK, we just haven’t had many chances on the PP recently.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

2-13 is not great for us on the PP, it’s not really good enough, but sometimes you dont get the bounces. I’m sure it will boucne back.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

What is it, a rubber ball?

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 16, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes it looks that way depending on the ice quality.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d for Polka Dot door reference.

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by jrwendelman on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Why are you on the West Coast ?

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i thought it was because he loved being 3 hours behind on everything.

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by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

What about the other nipple, though? The fourth one?

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by jrwendelman on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the location of said 4th “nipple”, apparently.

Chemmy claims that since it appears in the general vicinity of his groinal tissue, it’s actually a second… ummm…. you know.

That, or a butt plug.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Now Now ! .. just because his male organ can pass as a tiny nipple doesnt mean you guys can pick on him !

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Love a Letterman Top 10 List !

Never gets old !

Rec’d !

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, fuck Versteeg.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

His game didn’t fit in here and he knows it. He was played on the first, second and third lines at a various times. He couldn’t get it done on the first two, and on the third line wasn’t the right fit for the style we wanted. He also did get PP time, and sometimes cashed in, other times was invisible.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

He sounds a bit like one would after being “dumped” by the a team in the center of a the hockey universe. The locker room probably has some good chemistry. And I’m impressed by his 2 way game and can imagine his size was the other problem that limited him as a top 6 on the leafs. Hopefully the draft picks turn out something solid for the leafs.

by jeffgm on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I found him a bit frustrating. He would show flashes of top 6 brilliance, we’d put him there and he’d be invisible. Really, I think he’s a 2nd liner or 3rd liner on a contender team, he didn’t fit into our 2nd line (which at the time was kessel’s line, given MGKs performance) and he definitely didn’t fit into our 3rd line (then it was more of a checking line, somewhat sheltered scoring line)

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. He’d likely be a better fit this year than last … but that ship has sailed.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

He was on pace for 22 goals and 32 assists playing primarily on the 3rd line with unimpressive linemates. What about that says to you “couldn’t get it done”?

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s that? Couldn’t hear you. Sounds like you’re chewing on your mouthguard.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

That’s what always annoyed me about the “Versteeg was a bust in Toronto” argument. Was he a bit of a douche at times? Sure. Maybe that’s what got him shipped out given Burke’s insistence on character. Who knows. But he put up 35pts in 53gp despite never settling on the same line for any significant amount of time. I don’t see where all the ill will toward him is coming from.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

No one saying he was a bust (at least I wasnt saying that), I just said he didn’t fit in. His stats were good, but he didn’t work with Kessel’s line really, so we put him on the 3rd line and he isn’t part of the kind of third line we want. disagree if you will, but there was a reason we shipped him out.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I would disagree with the 3rd line minutes part too – 5 of his 14 goals (35%) were on the PP and I’m not sure how many assists but in either case, he did put up points at a pretty respectable rate for a 24 year old. I’m guessing it must have been some sort of character issue the team had with him.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

You may not have said he was a bust but I’ve heard that sentiment on here many times before from others. Not calling you out specifically.

Normally if you have a 24yr old who’s a 50-60pt player and he’s not “clicking” on the 3rd line, you move other bodies to help out the talent. Obviously that didn’t happen with Versteeg – like others, I’m going with “character issues” as the reason he was moved.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

KEEP YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH GUARD IN

All kidding aside, the guy had skill, but his play drove me nuts at times. I’m not sad he is gone.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

That actually is annoying. Although Versteeg is not the only one who has that bad habit.

The “chewing the mouthguard” habit can be detrimental. Players are not wise doing that. I hope no one checks him or anyone else hard and they lose their teeth and mouthguard goes flying.

You know its going to happen to someone soon.

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No but I do sell insurance !

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If players couldn’t chew on their mouth guards it would make the game less exciting and turn it into figure skating

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

who says you can't do both?

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by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Waaaaaaayyyyyyy Stretching and only said it because I said it once and only commented on my comment as opposed to if someone else made the comment just to be .. well.. annoying.

Mission Accomplished.

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No shit shirlock

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Quite Witty I must say

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by FLYERROB on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It amazes me how continually you miss the point

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

missed it

what ? whats that ? I am sorry I missed that ?! Say Again ?

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by FLYERROB on Jan 17, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

jokes, points, facts, implication, meaning
so, in a word, everything

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah But I am still Sexy & Chicks Dig Me !

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by FLYERROB on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate this “he didn’t fit here”. It is such an insane narrative because we had talent playing on the third line. He was on pace for a 21 goal 50+ season when he left Toronto and played a lot of tough minutes. He was a good fit. Basically we have Kadri playing in his spot now…

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

What kind of 3rd line do we want? In what way is he different from Kadri and Lombardi?

It is insanely poor roster management if a player was brought in for one reason (to play with Kessel) and when he didn’t succeed there (but did in another situation) he was ditched. I can’t imagine that was the reason. I am pretty sure it was character issues.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m chalking it up to character issues, too. Considering that he’s on the record complaining about his linemates now, it’s not a leap to imagine that he wasn’t much quieter about them when he was here. I wonder if we couldn’t have gotten more for him in the offseason.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes also I know he was leading the team at the time but Burke thought he had too many 2/3rd liners on the team, MacArthur would have been a much better trade chip since his return would have been much bigger than a late 1/3.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m surprised Versteeg talked now and not two weeks ago. He’s one point in his last six games and Florida is no longer the surprise team at the top of the conference.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but most people in Southern Florida probably don’t know that. Hell, they probably don’t know who Kris Versteeg is. They just look at the standings and go “oh, cool!”

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You think they even look at the standings in South Florida?

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

About 3 years ago I flew down to Miami to attend a cousins wedding and I got there Thursday morning. The Leafs happened to be playing that night so I put on my Leafs sweater and took the bus from my hotel for an hour and got to Sunrise, FL. After the game on the bus ride home several people came up to me and asked what happened in the game and I informed them the Panthers won. They were thrilled and then apologized for rubbing it in but explained they needed the points as they were still in the playoff race. I was amazed and slightly scared because of the areas this bus went through.

by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh, good for them I guess. I probably wouldn’t be going to a whole lot of hockey games if I lived in Miami either.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

People from a tropical climate with no natural ice in a city with a poorly-run franchise that hasn’t sniffed playoffs in ten years likely wouldn’t care enough. And even then, with everything to do in those climates, hockey would probably be secondary.

For example, all I know is, when I was in Mexico, I was too busy drinking beer on the golf course and lying in the sun to realize, hey, the Leafs lost to the Panthers today.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If I lived there the realignment, if it ever went through, would be perfect because I get to see the Leafs for $20 (actually what I paid).

by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

aaronward_nhl Aaron Ward
With Mikko Koivu injured,does the ASG and the City of Ottawa somehow get gifted the presence of Danny Heatley?Draft could be a hot ticket!

If so, you could have an ASG lineup that includes (or even starts) Elliot, Chara, Heatley, and Hossa.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

#projectmayhem successful unintentionally?

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the Leafs have a grand opportunity right now with the “winnability” of the next 5 games or so to really establish themselves down the stretch. This really is the time that determines whether they are fighting for a playoff spot or with one. They need the latter because we all know too well how hard it is to do the former.

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by BlindSight on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

Like I said, if the Leafs want to show we’re a real playoff team, the next few weeks are absolutely key. Go on a tear and you can set some distance between you and the lower-bubble teams.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Chance?

3 games to come with the Sens, all three are B2B for the Sens.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

/putsonBIGGERtinfoilhat

/causeit’sfunny

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The whole season series against the Sens are after B2B for them.

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Who wants to explain the "why" of this to me?
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Jake gardiner is back with the leafs…on the ice at practice today.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 16, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

David Alter mentioned the Marlies don’t play until Saturday. If nothing else, Jake gets to practice with the big club. Perfect way to use waiver exemption to maximize ice time.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Takes up a roster spot, though. Are they sending Holzer back down? I feel kind of bad for Holzer, he’s basically just being used as a placeholder rather than playing in games.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

He makes more money though I think

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point Holzer must be waiting for Ashton Kutcher to spring out from behind the Zamboni.

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by GreatKingRat on Jan 16, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Holzer apparently never got called up

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The key is… how did he fare with the Marlies?

Did the extra time in the A help his development?

Did riding the buses drum into him the need to always work hard and be professional?

Did Eakins work his magic on the PK?

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by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Let the trade speculation begin!

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems to be the buzz these days

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Send him down to play a game with the Marlies yesterday, back up to practice with the Leafs today.

The beauty of being waiver ineligble.

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by Chemmy on Jan 16, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and having your farm club in the same city.

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by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely also helps to have your AHL and NHL club in the same city.

by Huey2k2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone would have to go down though, right?

Also is he allowed to practice on the same ice as the team without being on the roster?

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

KyletheReporter mentioned that this puts the Leafs “back” at 7 D. Not sure what happened to Holzer, but it would mean that he’s not on ice.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

well then

KyleTheReporter Kyle Cicerella
Korbinian Holzer was not called up on Sunday, he played with the Marlies vs Hamilton. #Leafs #Marlies

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Did we call someone up when he got sent down?

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The downside for him is he just lost almost $4500 if I did my math right…

by WizardofNaz on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri

Has hit the 10 game mark for the season. How do you guys feel about him so far? He still frustrates the hell out of me at times. I said this to a friend of mine the other day. Kadri has NHL skills, with an AHL mind.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

I feel that he's 21 years old

Everyone seems to forget that.

He will improve over time. You dont go from being an AHL mind to an NHL mind without playing a full season in the bigs imo.

by laple meafs on Jan 16, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I won’t be sad if he gets sent down to make room fo Bozak, he’s just not at the level where he can drive significant offence on his own yet. I do see improvements in his game though.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Much happier with him this year than before. To my eyes he has seriously cut down on the glaring turnovers. I see him forechecking with purpose and throwing big hits in the offensive zone and that shows me he cares and he’s “getting it”. He’s starting to understand the importance of cycling the puck, and just dumping it in when there’s nothing there. Solid player with lots of room to grow.

by lucc on Jan 16, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s absolutely cut down on the turnovers, I see over and over situations where he has no option and dumps it into the zone as opposed to trying to get around a bunch of opposing players. That said, I’m not sure if he’s quite ready to stay up given Bozak’s return. We’ll see.

I have to say while Lombardi was a good find, 3.5$ million for him is really not a good expense. He’s good defensively most of the time, but offensively has contributed close to nothing, seems like a shell of the player he was. I guess that’s to be expected, maybe a full training camp will help next year.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree on Lombardi although he’s looked better since his return I think despite not contirbuting… You’d have to think there would be a playoff team with cap space looking for depth at C,W who would be willing o gamble on Lombo for cheap

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would the Leafs who are a possible playoff team get rid of him for cheap?

by WizardofNaz on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Because given his play and contract, we have the depth to replace him.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, he’ll probably be easier to move at the deadline than in the offseason. I don’t really want to keep him around next year at this level of play because he probably isn’t a long term piece of the puzzle – moving him clears up space for half of Suter’s or Getzlaf’s salary for example

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d quickly take a pick just to lose his salary, but I doubt it would work out that well. He’s signed for another year, so only a team with similarly deep pockets would realistically take it.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I am thinking like FLA, OTT, MIN, NJD, STL – lots of cap space, maybe going to playoffs needing more depth/experience and willing to take a flyer on Lombo for cheap cost to like a 4th rder…

Grabbo and Liles are the only significant UFA this year so unless we are rolling with close to the same team next year, we need more cap space.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Lombo will be easy to get rid of in the offseason as well. Lots of teams who miss out on FA’s would look at him and his 2nd line potential and take him on. Thats why unless we need the cap space at the deadline, unless we get a good deal for him giving him away doesn’t make sense until the offseason.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 16, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well for one thing it means we carry 5 centres when we’re healthy. True, Lombo can play wing, but he is a centreman normally.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

If he finishes the year with his projected numbers of 4-12-16 in 63 games I think you would have a hard time finding someone who would give take him for free. Injury risk with uninsured contract, might only put up 20 points.

Nobody will look at him as 2nd line potential, 3rd line at best and there are lots of guys who can put up 30 points in the league for $1m-1.5M who are younger.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

His first few games were alright. He wasn’t losing the puck constantly and he actually got shots on net. Recently I can not say the same thing.

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s my impression too. His defensive play was much improved at first, and his penchant for nasty turnovers seemed to have been cut down, but lately his old habits seem to be creeping back. During one recent game, he turned the puck over by trying to deke at the blue line on the same powerplay three times. He’s got to stop making that kind of mistake.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Cant remember if it was against Buffalo or NYR, he tried deking thru 3 guys. He can’t do that. The last 3-4 games have been pretty bad, in my eyes. Sure he has hit a few guys, but he isn’t playing smart

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it was NYR and I also think it was frustration from the lack of offense that game. If he makes the mistakes continually, that might be a worry, but I haven’t seen it too often. He mostly makes the safe play.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The boy loves to toe drag himself into trouble, that’s for sure.

He’s such a frustrating player, because you can see the talent. After his first 5 games I thought there’d be no way he goes back down, but after the last 5…. I dunno what to say.

by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Jan 16, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m more in favour of him sitting a game if people come back healthy rather than sending him back. I think he needs the chance to play and learn in the NHL and the third line is a good place for that.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if it's already been posted

but here’s the Leafs line up for Fridays outdoor alumni game in Hamilton – Marlies/Bulldogs play Sat afternoon.

Coaches

Coaches
Bower, John
Sittler, Darryl
Ellis, Ron

Players Players
Clark, Wendel
Daoust, Dan
Derlago, Bill
Gilmour, Doug
Joseph, Curtis
King, Derek
King, Kris
Kypreos, Nick
Leeman, Gary
May, Brad
McGill, Bob
Osborne, Mark
Thomas, Steve
Vaive, Rick
Zettler, Rob
O’Neill, Jeff

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by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Daoust, Dan

Awesome!

What a roster

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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Every game is a try-out

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Would love to see a bench clearing brawl resulting in McGill, Osbourne and May getting fat lips and black eyes. Would make their next broadcast appearances semi watchable.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d. daoust rules.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

check out the ego on this guy.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

excellent use of tittles

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, if that was on a t-shirt i’d buy it.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s gotta be.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine he looks like O’Doyle from Billy Madison

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

oh man.

i forgot about that guy.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

O'DOYLE RULES

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jeff O’Neill wtf. Brad May? Rob Zettler? Shouldn’t you have to have played at least a 100 games with the Leafs to be eligible for an alumni game.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

“Well boys we don’t have enough players for the Alumni game this year so what do we do? Any ideas?”
“Well we could just call a bunch of guys who aren’t broadcasting this year, see if they feel like filling out a T4 next April”
“Genius, let’s run with it!”

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by Ghostsof on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Colby will never be a Leaf alumni then =(

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Van Ryn.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 16, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

poor Martin Skoula especially.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He’ll get a special exemption because he means so much to the fanbase…

This space for rant...

by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

A real heart and soul guy.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

who brings the compete day in and day out.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my god Skoula’s compete level with this organization was off the charts.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

they seem to like Brad May, he was coach in the open practice last month too.

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by elseldo on Jan 16, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmm….Stastny is underperforming this year….

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

TRADE FOR ALL THE PLAYERS

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by kudzupo on Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He clearly wants out to join Liles and to continue the Stastny legacy in Toronto.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it’s just me, but with Liles out isn’t this a great opportunity to plug Jake Gardiner in on the first PP unit alongside Dion to see what he can do? Besides getting him some experience on the 1st unit with Dion isn’t he also the most logical fit to be replacing Liles?

by scott tubbesing on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

People here are still confused as to why Aulie is playing and Gardiner is not. Aulie has not been very good, and looks like he needs AHL time.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

The way he was playing in the AHL, he looked like he needed ECHL time

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Aulie is being showcased for trade.. the most reasonable explanation.

Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin

by Gebx on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

no, no it really isnt

by l3ojangles on Jan 16, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it’d be a trade for nothing…

by Jon K. on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Who knows maybe Aulie will be sitting next game, but I’m particularly confused by Gardiner not stepping in for Liles on the PP. The left point on the PP has been a pretty clear deficiency since Liles went down and Gardiner still hasn’t gotten a look there.

by scott tubbesing on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he saw some time there on the second with with Franson recently. Was I just imagining things?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Gardiner has been in on the second unit most of the year. I mean with Liles out he should be on the first unit with Phaneuf. In term of the defense pairings on the PP the first one of Liles and Phaneuf was getting the vast majority of the time, so now with Liles out there is a void there.

by scott tubbesing on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked to see Franson and Gardiner has the 2nd PP line.

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by Gebx on Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, why does Aulie NEVER take a slap shot. A crappy soft wrister from the point isn’t always the best solution, and you’d think with a guy that big he could get some power behind a shot. But no, he doesn’t.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather a shot get thru. If its with a wrister so what?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he has a really, really bad wrister. And yet its the only thing he does when he has an offensive chance. I would think it would be worthwhile to learn how to deliver a quick low slapper – so many times I’ve seen he has a great chance at a shot and instead sends an easy save, or misses the net entirely. Couldnt Phaneuf give him some points or something?

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Schenn’s slapper really gets to me too, cometimes. It seems as though he doesn’t follow through with his back arm to his shoulder. Rather, he follows through to his hip. Isn’t this like the basics of learning to take a slapshot.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

On the bright side of our shots from the point, Dion almost never misses the net. It seemed like last year, he would miss 80% of the time.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Phaneuf this season – 76 shots, 28 misses, misses 27% of the time
Last season – 120 shots, 56 misses, misses 32% of the time

So he is hitting the net more often this year, but not by a huge margin.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

it helps having Liles on the PP too (when healthy), as he also has a decent slapper. I remember when we first got Phaneuf, everyone knew to just cover his point shot and we really had few options as a result. Now we have a few different guys that can shoot (Franson, Liles, Phaneuf, heck even Schenn and Gardiner can get shots through, though not really slappers) so they cant just smother the one player on the PK.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Shush you, the guys trying to tell a story here…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

NBC SportsNetwork

Those of you north of the border probably don’t care much about this but what is the deal with NBC Sports (VS)?!?? I just checked tonight game and it’s Dallas vs St. Louis. I think I’ve watched both of these teams 3 times over the last 3 weeks (I know St. Louis was broadcasted on back-to-back nights a couple weeks ago). Don’t get me wrong, I mean, I’m happy that they’re actually broadcasting hockey on TV in the US instead of fishing or something, but could they really not get the right for some better (see, bigger market)games? Are they really having that much success with viewership constantly showing these western/southwestern teams?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

I watched a bunch of the Chicago – San Jose game last night. It was fantastic. Watching Chicago felt like seeing a team with three MGK lines, they’re just such a good puck possession team.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at the CHI-DET game on Saturday. Was hoping to see more offensive prowess from the Hawks. Sadly, they only turned it on in the last 50 seconds of the game, and then proceeded to lose to the wings in OT for the second time in 1 week. Ugh… I still haven’t seen a shootout in person yet.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah funny you mention that. I was in FL the week after Christmas and Dallas-St.Louis itself was actually one of the games they broadcasted along with another St. Louis game (I think vs. Detroit though). Coincidently, my family is originally from St.Louis so it was nice for my Dad and Grandpa but I feel like there is a St. Louis bias on VS for some strange reason. Everytime I catch games on it it seems like St. Louis is playing (and I don’t mean in the STL area).

by scott tubbesing on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

you’ll rarely see the big teams (CHI, WSH, PIT, NYR, PHI, DET) on VS, because (a) NBC saves them for national telecasts and (b) people will actually pay to see those teams on NHL Network/Gamecenter/Center ice.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

"Staticstical Analysis"

Oh LOL!

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, forgot to post the image

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone pointed out in the comments on the original. The file name is “Staticstial Analysis”.

This advanced stuff? I’ve never even heard of it!

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, there is always the possibility that it is a really long screen and all the Corsi numbers are to the far right.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

When they spell ‘statistical’ wrong, I don’t have much hope for that possibility.

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Tambelini uses CapGeek to ok trades lol.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Help

Anyone have a link to that Kadri goal celebration where he pulls out the bow and arrow? I’ve been trying to find it, unsuccessfully.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Sur1b_zCA

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the one. Thanks. Geesh, don’t know what it was so hard to find.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

ok trivia

for some reason I can’t for the life of me remember which goalie it was (Bower? Sawchuck? Plantes?) that would stand in his crease straight up resting his hands on his stick….who was it?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Dryden.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s not very good practice for a career in politics.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve tried doing it. It’s not very comfy. But I also notice in that picture that his stick is a bit shorter than mine.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Dryden is also like 6’5"

by m3smth on Jan 16, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

…and can beat up your dad.

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by Say *plan the parade one more time*... on Jan 16, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair,

It’s better than Jacques Demers’ preparation.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 16, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh boy.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

ah. thank you.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

strangely

I actually have an artist-singed printing of ‘At the Crease’, which is apparently an image of Dryden.

I also have an autographed Johnny Bower game stick.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

How badly was it singed? I believe the consensus now is that the model in the painting was Dennis Kemp.

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by GreatKingRat on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you are correct on both accounts, sir.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ken Danby’s the artist on that, I think my brother has a print of that he got as a gift. (had to bing it, but I recognize the print after seeing it).

by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

mirtle James Mirtle
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by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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#Leafs lines at Monday practice: Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin, Lombardi-Connolly-Kadri, Crabb-Steckel-Brown. #NHL

So nice not having Crabb playing with Grabo.

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by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

That third line has a lot of speed and shiftiness on it. Hopefully they can take advantage of some weaker competition to generate some good chances.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So Boyce is the odd man out now, and most likely Kadri again, when Bozak steps back in?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

per tsnscottymac, boyce nursing an injury, unlikely to play tomorrow.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Scratch that, missed Bozo on the 1st line there. Anyhow, Boyce is sitting, regardless.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

about frickin’ time.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Got to be starting Reimer

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

FINALLY!

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

My fantasy team is SAVED!

Er… I mean, the Leafs… obviously…

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Not gonna link to it because it’s Canoe, but Garrioch had an article up on rumours and speculation and said the Leafs will go after Bobby Ryan. He also said that Howson might try and trade Carter but that the Leafs couldn’t fit in his cap hit. Carter makes 100K more than Ryan against the cap, and according to CapGeek (if Burke waits until the deadline, which he probably won’t) we can add over 5.2 million (what Carter makes) to our team without having to offload salary.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

our cap space is partly due to LTIR, IIRC, so we do have to move salary to bring in a big salaried player. I’m totally on board with a Ryan trade, it just depends on what it willl cost us.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be wrong on this, I’m sure someone in the know will correct me if I am, but the LTIR exemption does not actually get calculated into a team’s remaining cap (i.e. you don’t have more cap room due to LTIR). The effect of the LTIR is that the team can exceed the cap by the LTIR amount. Therefore if a team has 2 mil in cap space and 3 mil on LTIR they can add a 5 mil player even though they really only have 2 mil in cap space…

by Bobby Paradise on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe how it works is the cap is calculated on a daily basis. The LTIR exemption just allows for your player who is injured to not be counted against the cap, or the max of 23 roster players. Since the cap is calculated each day, how much over or under you are builds up over the course of the season. Contracts you add or subtract are also prorated for the remaining days left in the season. For these reasons, Nashville is able to add more real dollars to their team on deadline day than the cap would actually allow for a full season due to how low their payroll has been all season.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Regular cap is calculated on a daily basis, but LTIR only counts while you have players on LTIR. You can’t “bank” LTIR money.

Example:

A team sitting right at the salary cap loses a $3 million player for 1/3 of the season. The guy they use to replace him has a salary of $1.5 million. When the LTIR player comes back, the team is immediately right back at the cap limit; they do not get the extra $500k they failed to use when he was injured.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

What I was trying to say is that when the LTIR exemption is used, it essentially pretends that you don’t have that player. So you aren’t banking that money, but aren’t you banking the different between the LTIR player and the call up (assuming the LTIR player is more expensive than the call up, which I think would usually be the case).

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly. It’s more like you do the daily cap calculations, including the LTIR guys. If it’s still below the cap, you’re good. If not, you use up any banked dollars you have, and if you’re still over, you’re essentially forgiven the amount up to the LTIR players’ cap number.

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by apk3000 on Jan 16, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Hilarity incoming

Montreal Canadiens: So apparently Carey Price was offered the Pekka Rinne contract to stay in Montreal but turned it down (link is in French, which should make the fanbase happy). And it’s because he wanted 10 years at $7 million per, not seven. Hey, that Ilya Bryzgalov is working out great in Philly, right? Oh that was only for nine? Haha okay.

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by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Oh my god yes. Carey Price with a $7 mil cap hit would be amazing.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Gauthier needs to get this done before he gets fired

by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

also they should include a full NMC.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure theres a joke about underage girls in there somewhere…

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by kudzupo on Jan 16, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal currently has $43,565,476 committed next year to 12 players, leaving them an estimated $20.7 million in cap space for 9-11 players. They also have to resign Subban, Emelin, Eller and big tits. If they give 7 million to Price, that leaves them with $13.7 million (roughly) to resign the 4 others above, plus fill out the remaining 6 or so spots. Although given that they have Markov, they will probably get a lot of LTIR relief from him next season.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Take it a step further, they have 8 players under contract for 2013-14 needing to resign the aforementioned above plus Pacioretty and Desharnais who could each command $3.5-4m is they put up 60 pts/yr

by Dr_Furious on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

lol habs

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

SeanFitz_Gerald SeanFitz_Gerald
Ron Wilson confirms my suspicion: Tim Connolly is indeed dealing with some kind of injury. Affects his ability on faceoffs.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Boneitis has really been affecting us this year, I hope more research will help us cure this contagious and devastating disease.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We knew this was going to be an issue when we signed the “Typhoid Mary” of the boneitis crowd…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He literally breaks a hand bone every time he takes a face off.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Gardiner in tomorrow, per everyone who writes about the Leafs on Twitter. Wilson won’t say who’s coming out. Assuming there are no trades in the works, it has to be Aulie, right? Gunnar’s not getting scratched and Komisarek has been our other LD lately.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

COuld be Schenn. MOve Komi back to the right side

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. Could be anyone at this point.

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by Bower Power on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well not anyone, no. Phaneuf, Gunnar are guaranteed.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Dreger, Franson is close to “untouchable” status, so I can’t imagine he gets scratched any time soon. He’s also been playing pretty well lately.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been great in the offensive zone. Defensively, he is still struggling

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

But given everyone not named Gunnarson, it isn’t glaringly obvious.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn’t???

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of them are making big errors, so to pick out one weak link is a bit much. They all need to step it up.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

We aren’t talking about everyone else tho. We are talking about Franson. TO say that he isn’t making any glaring errors, is well nuts. The kid is improving. He seems like a different player than the one who started the season, but he still makes a bunch mistakes in his own zone.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, I agree, if we’re going to just talk about Franson. But the thread started on “who to drop”, in which case his comparison to the rest does matter, which was where my points came from.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And to clearly state, if it isn’t Aulie, I won’t know what to say.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would replace Aulie?

by stevesmith19 on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. We don’t have any other options who are guaranteed to be any better defensively.

by stevesmith19 on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see Holzer. But yeah, he’s certainly no guarantee.

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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If they bench Schenn, put Gardiner back in

Aulie Phaneuf
Gunnar FRanson
Gardiner Komi

3LD 3RD

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I always forget/overlook the LD vs RD thing. The above works for me, though.

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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The Komi/Franson pairing has been pretty terrible

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s partly because Komi has been very bad these past two games.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Would Gardiner/Komisarek be any better?

And Wilson deploys them very differently anyway.

by stevesmith19 on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Komi would be playing on his right side for starters

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

So who anyone else take Franson over Schenn now?

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by Gebx on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d love for it to be Aulie, but I doubt it is.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If it’s not Aulie I guess it could be Schenn, but I’d be surprised.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish the 30 thoughts piece could move to a Tuesday, so at least it would be there early in the morning – I just keep refreshing to see when it will be up….probably my favourite weekly hockey read.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

I am literally doing the exact same thing as we speak.

by the_walrus on Jan 16, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Its unfortunate though ,if it doesnt arrive early in the morning it normally isnt posted until 5pm. Lame. Just post it the next morning regularly!

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It used to be posted Monday morning like clockwork for a while. Now it’ s always Monday evening sometime

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW

Kessel can hit 104 mph! Maybe he needs to throw in the slapper a little more often.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

An old coworked often told me that Kessel actually didn’t know how to do a slapshot. He insisted it was true and that it was just something he never learned. I found it hard to believe but since I had never seen Kessel do a slapper I thought maybe it was a weird piece of trivia. Then a couple summers ago in a general skills competition Kessel hit like 103mph right behind stamkos. Now I’m mad Kessel doesn’t use it more, at least on the PK. The reason he doesn’t use it is because his accuracy is so good with his wrister, no need to do a slapper. I wish he’d pull a Vanek sometimes though

by Ben Schnell on Jan 16, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

they’re all chatting it up and yelling and Phil is just skating around with his goofy smile. I love Phil.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 16, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

There are also a few other videos from the same camp, and one is a scrimmage. One team has Lundqvist as the goalie, the other has Devan Dubnyk.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Maple Leafs Panel

Edition three of Maple Leafs Panel at The Hockey Writers, all-Trade Deadline edition. Check it out: http://thehockeywriters.com/maple-leafs-panel-all-trade-deadline-edition/

Topics discussed include the front office, untouchable players and the position in most need of an upgrade.

by Lukas Hardonk on Jan 16, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Gunnar hasnt been a PK staple?

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dave Nonis has a healthy relationship with the Vancouver Canucks?

by Peter Lynn on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

McKegg watch (because I really like him for no real reason):

GP – G – A- P
5 – 5 – 3- 8

At least he’s back over PPG again. Must have sucked to play on such a terrible team for half a season.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

You know how Boston’s goal differential is obscene this year, Erie is currently a -115 in the goal differential department. 5 wins and 12 points in 42 games. They better hope there’s another Yakupov coming into the OHL this year.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

5 wins? Oh man, I’m just so glad he got out of there. Nothing kills your confidence like winning 5 of 42.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

My parents signed me up for soccer one summer. I must have been around 6-8 years old. We lost nine straight games, and then I stopped going. Never played soccer again (save for mandatory gym classes. yuck). Prolly for the best.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I was on a rep team that regularly won no more than 3 games in a season. Two of those came from antoher team forfeiting by not having enough players. I remember we tied a team 1-1 once, I think it was Northumberland or something like that. My god we were ecstatic.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The ringette team I coached was just on the other end of that. Exam time, we show up for a game with only 11 skaters (instead of our normal 17).

Girls played their hearts out, but lost in the last minute when we got into penalty trouble to a team that hadn’t won a game all year. They were pretty happy … we were pretty choked.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry “coach”, not past tense…

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to look up what ringette was.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

it seems to me to be quite a bit silly, but hey what do I know.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

but hey what do I know.

I think we all know the answer to this

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by leafer1984 on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s actually quite a fast game (we timed it one night watching university-athlete level teams playing) – you can move the ring from one end of the ice to the other in about 4 seconds.

If you take a hockey player and a ringette player of equal skill level and experience, the ringette player will be the better skater every time because the game emphasizes constant motion on offense.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

is it a nipple piercing ?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 16, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s like hockey, but much, much sillier.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You really didn’t know what it was?

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I just had to look it up.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Wikipedia says its played mainly by girls, so that would partly explain it. I knew few girls into sports.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s also fairly regional as sports go – much like box lacrosse.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I would assume its played in Toronto….

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, yes it is.

it tends to be big in urban areas, not so much in rural locations. I assume “size of available player pool allowing for some segregation by skill level” and “available ice sheets with the required special markings” I assume.

According to the ringette Canada site (not sure how recent the numbers are) 25K+ in terms of Canadian participant numbers. That’s “popular”, but not “hugely popular”.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was pretty popular throughout Canada.

…Next this you’re going to tell me is that you don’t know what Bandi is!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope that’s a joke, I have no idea what that is.z

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

To you, I say “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandy" target="new">good day".

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 16, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

my response to both these sports is……why not just play hockey?

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess bandy is more like a bizarre mutant ice version of american football.

by Goosemonster on Jan 16, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

it always blows my mind

when I switch form Reader to here and discover that j and k move up and down the comments.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

Woah. That’s certainly not something to j/k about.

Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

by Nirbo on Jan 16, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

omg

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Today is an American holiday?!

Goddamn it! I didn’t set my fantasy line ups in time.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Martin Luther King Day

by ShahofToronto on Jan 16, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I googled it.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A non-Leaf question.

Has John Tavares ever been a captain for the Islanders?

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by Be26 on Jan 16, 2012 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

YES

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Your fun statistic for today. The Leafs are exactly 50% on the draw this season, 1291 faceoffs won, 1291 lost.

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Crosby seeing a chiropractic neurologist...

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by stevesmith19 on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

He’s been seeing that guy for like year now.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 16, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

what the fuck is a chiropractic neurologist?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently

a bullshit chiropractic thing, and nothing at all to do with a MD neurologist. what a hoax.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you gonna Burtch this one?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Cause if so....

… you need to work up a good head of steam first.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

bust open some Red Bull.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

probably willing to try anything to get him healthy
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i understand doing that if you go to a doctor and they tell you ‘you have terminal cancer. you have 8 weeks to live’.

outside of that, it’s just foolishness.

well, actually, it’s placebo. placebo works. and if crosby has millions ,then great, more power to him. what pains me more is people who (a) have life threatening illnesses and choose to ignore traditional medicine (e.g., Steve Jobs) or (b) people who throw away a ton of money on placebo which could be essentially accomplished for free (i.e., by going to your doctor).

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

where can we get this placebo? Maybe it’s in this truck?!?!

by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 16, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

another great Simpsons reference. a deep-cut no less. well done.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m all about pre 2000 simpsons, stopped watching in around 2002.

by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 16, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

How apt I'm watching the 'Cherokee Hair Tampon' South Park episode

Good thing Phil got his nut cut out instead of trying some ‘all natural ball juice’

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by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently Jobs later acknowledged that he might have had a better chance to live, or at least live longer, if he had pursued traditional medicine sooner.

I think what Crosby is experiencing has similarities to what a terminal patient goes through (and no, I’m not saying they’re exactly the same). He’s a guy who has played hockey at an extremely high level for pretty much his entire life, he’s probably the best hockey player in the world, but for months he’s had problems with some of his basic functions, let alone his ability to participate as a high-performance athlete. And so, having had most of what makes up his life taken away from him with doctors unable to do anything but say “wait it out”, maybe he feels hopeless, wants some kind of chance to get back to being a high-performance athlete before the chance is gone forever, and is turning to alternative medicine because he feels like it can’t possibly be any worse than the non-answers he’s getting from neurologists.

Or maybe he’s just gullible. At any rate, I don’t think the answer is necessarily simple or obvious.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

a special-bented garbage can.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just wait till the chiropractors catch wind of this!

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 17, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Woot Detroit’s up 2-0 on Buffalo

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

3-0…

Beat all the Eastern Conference Teams!!!

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo is only a couple of losses away from being eliminated from having a realistic shot at the playoffs.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

God that last Bertuzzi goal was nice… 5-0 Det

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody else here have a penile implant?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Christ, that made me laugh so hard just writing it.

But seriously. Anybody? Raise your hand?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I have an exam on them tomorrow. Does that count?

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

in which class do you have an exam involving penile implants?

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Reproductive health.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. It is a third line treatment (along with surgical vascular reconstruction) for ED.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re still ducking the question.

Come on brother. Stand up.

For Penile (Implant) Pride.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

when i’m screening people for fMRI I always have to ask them this question. it’s always a little….odd.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What… you ask them if “anybody else here” has a penile implant? ;-)

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

no, ask them whether they, specifically, have a penile implant.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

among about 100 other things i ask of them.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It probably would break the ice a bit if you phrased it as “Do you have a penile implant too?”

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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

chances Jets-Sens goes to OT?

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

i was flying to florida on saturday and they had CBC on the flight. i was watching the devils-jets game, and i actually cheered out loud when the devils scored in the 3rd, just because i was happy it wasn’t going to be a 3-point game.

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by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

FIRST CLASS PROBABLY

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

economy with the fam. thank god for TVs on flights.

and i don’t think westjet has a first class actually.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

westjet sucks.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh, I’ll take Westjet over Air Canada any day.

Then again, maybe a western base makes them more user-friendly out here. Plus, I’ve had bad experiences with Air Canada in terms of major delays, etc.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate the patronizing ’we’re funny and friendly’ tone of westjet. just do your fucking job and do it well. i’ll still notice if the food sucks and the plane is too crowded even if you tell a fucking joke over the intercom.

Porter is the best.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

“do your fucking job and do it well”…so no Air Canada either

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i’ve never really had much trouble with AC. delays are delays, can’t do much about that. they also have good international partners.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was mostly joking. Truth be told last few international flights weren’t so bad, and i’ve never really had THAT horrible of an experience on any flight that was the airline’s fault. Usually it has something to do with an annoying passenger.

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

hell is other people.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I refuse to put my seat back because I know it will annoy the person behind me, yet the person in front of me ALWAYS does it. I refuse to give in and will continue to suffer in silence

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

no no. that’s fair game. so long as everyone does it the distance remains constant. plus, it’s like the one liberty re: space they give you. i say take it. just be courteous about it. and don’t use the seat in front of you to leverage your fat ass off your chair.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’ve heard that, I just think people overdo it. As you say be courteous, something most people don’t do…

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate making people get up so I can go to the washroom. I prefer the aisle seat, I can come and go as I please.

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by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Aisle seats are just so much better

Had some guy sit in the aisle on a 16 hour flight who slept for about 14 hours of the flight. I waited for him to wake up so I could go take a leak, and when I got back he had already gone back to sleep

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by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

On westjet, it’s particularly bad due to the TV screens. I hate when some people lean wayyyy back so I can’t watch TV. At least be considerate my TV is on your seat, jackass.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 16, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only flew four times in my life and only experience one delay. It happened on the trip home. The day earlier, a prospective passenger had a bad accident, most of his leg in a cast and apparently some internal organ damage. They (the airline) asked if he could still fly. He replied, “Sure, probably.”

Because of the cast, he can barely sit in the seat. He keeps fidgiting back and forth, and then he starts hyper-ventilating. They call a doctor, and lo! and behold, the man was unfit for flying. A short eternity later he is finally okayed to get out of his seat and leave with his luggage. Cost us 1h45min.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh dear me that is a rec

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Booooooooooooo.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

porter’s dynamite, but their destinations are limited and they’ve yet to prove their business model can actually make money.

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by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

they’re getting closer to the black. not quite there yet, but close. (fingers crossed)

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

they struggled when they had a monopoly on departures from the Island airport. with air canada having access now I’m not sure they’re going to survive.

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by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

la la la la i cannot hear you la la la la

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

they’re mostly not profitable because they keep buying planes. and expanding the airport. i think they’ll make a run for it…

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Porter. Fuck A/C. And Westjet’s fake cheer give me the heaves.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s my number one problem I have with Virgin Mobile. “We’re young and hip!” Fuck off and give me proper customer service and I’ll be happy

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by Ghostsof on Jan 16, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I guess I just assumed they were profitable.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

No question…i’ve never had a bad experience on westjet

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I was annoyed on the way down here. I’m happy to pay for food / drink on a flight, but jesus christ, at least have food available, especially when the flight is 4:00-7:00. they apparently had 6 sandwiches and 2 cheese plates for the entire flight. I was pretty happy to feed my girls bits and bites for dinner.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I never eat on flights so that isn’t an issue for me, though they should have more available for those that do. I also don’t agree with their pet policy…dogs and cats on board? Seems ridiculous to me, what if I was allergic?

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Had a barking dog from Kelowna to Vancouver…45 minutes is a short flight but it was still annoying.

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

oh dear that would be annoying.

my wife flies a lot, so she was going to start a blog about ‘shit people do on airplanes’. the list is incredible. so many ways to annoy hundreds of people at once.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

When I was a kid this woman was at the back of the plane and the second it landed yelled “CLAUSTROPHOBIC, CLAUSTROPHOBIC!” in a French accent while running to the front of the plane. Everybody got out of her way and she got off the plane first. If I had any balls I would do this every time. The other passengers will think you have a mental problem, and even if they are skeptical they won’t question you because you sound foreign. Its foolproof

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

one time I sat on the tarmac in hamilton (there was a crazy storm in Toronto so we couldn’t land there) for about 3 hours. people started losing their shit. they had a paramedic come on for the woman in the seat in front of me.

meanwhile, my wife has both a medical phobia and claustrophobia. she almost lost her shit as well…

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

heh
I get it

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear to god I don’t want to sound like a dick here but I’ve got to ask……What’s a medical phobia and if its a fear or medical professionals……..Yeah…..

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by Ghostsof on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly related to fear of needles, medical procedures, etc.

if you know anything about classical conditioning though you’ll know how things can start to generalize.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t have the foggiest

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by Ghostsof on Jan 16, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s like sex. first you’re attracted to boobs. next think you know you’re attracted to bras.

before you know it your’e getting arrested for trying on women’s undergarments in the local K-mart.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I love West Jet.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh. i hate it.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see the patronizing thing being annoying. Personally I just like their tv’s, find their seats the most comfortable, and ignore what they say anyway.

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by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for family time

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I have no idea what Goldman Sachs is

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

/notsureifserious

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

this is my embarassed face

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t be. i’m a bay street sellout now, but when I graduated university I literally knew nothing about the finance world… i was all math / science. i fluked my way into a job through a friend of a friend, i had no idea where I was going or what i was going to do.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

another ringing endorsement of the financial sector.

;)

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone can become reasonably proficient in a field after working in it for 13 years (and after taking a handful of Canadian Securities Institute courses). my math / engineering / analytical background has also served me well in finance.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i was of course only joking. but in all seriousness, i’d probably rather a bunch of mathematicians/engineers running my stock portfolio than a bunch of MBA douchewads.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have found that managing personal finances is a mystery to pretty much every student
I will go ahead and say that there should probably be at least a mandatory finance course in high school

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been saying this for years. you can’t graduate highschool until you learn how to budget, what an RSP is, how mortgages work, how credit works, etc.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i still don’t know how mortgages work, and I have 3 post-secondary degrees.

then again, that’s probably because i’ve been so poor that entire time it’s never been relevant.

UNTIL NOW. mwa-hahahahaha

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

another ringing endorsement of the ‘professional student’.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, i concur.

it’s not my fault though that society doesn’t value academics.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I can pretty boldly guarantee that very few high school graduates have an adequate understanding of those things, including myself

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It is so important. Budgeting, debt control, proper credit card usage, saving for retirement, proper credit card usage, how mortgages work, debt control, etc….

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly the lowest levels of high school math touch on some of this stuff ironically.

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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

my grade 10 math covered compounding interest and mortgages I think. but it made no sense at the time. i got like a 98% in grade 9 math and I still didn’t know what the hell was going on.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think part of the problem is that even if they taught this shit in highschool, it’s probably another 10 years before someone moves out of their parents house and actually needs to remember what they learned.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Not the credit card part. You can get them young and fuck yourself over.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

very true.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

My high school math classes spent time on things that 95% of the class was never going to use, like the quadratic equation, so it’s not like teaching some kind of financial literacy could be any less useful.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I won’t stand for you slagging the quadratic equation. Next thing you know you’re going to be chirping trig functions and the pythagorean theorem.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m amazed at how often I’ve used the quadratic equation outside of school. Literally one random day, I was tossing an apple up and down, and I realized that it was falling in a parabolic arc. It was incredible, one of those eureka lightbulb moments.

I also used it for some programming, so it’s not restricted solely to apples.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds right. I think workplace level did more of bugeting ect. Not totally sure as I never did it myself. Grade 11 mixed sucked ass. Then Grade 12 college was barely a reveiw of Grade 11 mix. 64 one year 87 the next.

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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

also, debt control, proper credit card usage, etc

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That was on purpose. My parents taught me about debt and credit young but I would say at least a third of my friends had basically no prior knowledge of credit, credit cards, debt, etc besides what they had seen on tv. The lucky ones learned their lessons with a 2 or 3000$ balance that took ’em a few months to pay off. Others end up much deeper in the hole.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I am in my 3rd year of university and I can safely say I am not ready to manage finances in the real world. Although if I did have a credit card I’d probably just be too scared to use it anyway.

A few of my friends have credit cards which they use for minor purchases, and pay it off right away, to up their credit score. Not sure if that works or not but it’s probably a good habit to get into anyway

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve just got a debit card and that’s it. My dad’s also trying to help me get into the stock market but I’ve got no idea what’s going on

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

TAX FREE SAVINGS*
*assuming you’re from Canada

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"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

that doesn’t even really keep up with inflation. but sure.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I have investements under an tax free savings umbrella.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I know people who claim to have done that, but almost all of them at some point end up using the card for something else and end up paying interest.

I also work with a couple of people who keep a balance on their card at all times and willingly pay interest because they think it’s better for their credit score to constantly pay a small amount of interest than to pay none at all.

Personally, I only use my credit card for things I already have the money for, and I always pay it off immediately.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 16, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

so what is the point of the credit card?

or by “have money for” do you mean “the money will certainly come in via my next paycheque”

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Credit cards are useful for Internet transactions, or anything that doesn’t have debit but does have credit (eg, paying university fees and such, at least at York). Also useful in an emergency.

by MrSmithy on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I use it for Internet transactions and for things like booking hotel rooms when they require it. Otherwise I use cash or debit.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Investment banking firm, amongst other things.

for the record I’m not an IB, or in capital markets even. lowly retail brokerage. the least sexy of the bay street gigs.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

can you describe what that is in 160 characters or less?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Retail brokerage = managing people’s money. My firm has investment advisors (nee ‘stock brokers’) that do that. I’m head office / senior management.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

so when i’m back in Ontari-ari-ari-o can you run my investment portfolio?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

nope… like I said I’m in management. but I can pass you on to someone who can.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

but you’ll make me good money right?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

sure why not.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

sweeeeeet.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

All the banks have a retail brokerage arm… Scotiabank has ScotiaMcLeod, CIBC has CIBC Wood Gundy, RBC has RBC Dominion Securities, etc

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

SUIT HIGH FIVE

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Jan 17, 2012 5:28 AM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for rec’ing family time.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for making fun of daoust and his $$$$

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

full disclosure: I flew 4 times for work this week, and ended up getting upgraded to first class every time (we have ‘passes’ for work, so anyone who flies for our company earns points, and we get upgraded if seats are available). it is fucking OUTSTANDING. you could never justify spending that kind of money for personal travel, but if you had to fly a lot for work I could see how business class would become key.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i envy you.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t. I never travel for work, and it was total fluke that we got upgraded on every flight.

it was f-ing sweet though… boarding first, free chow and drinks, crazy leg room, they even take your jacket(s) and hang them up for you.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i love wearing a sports jacket when flying, even in coach. it makes me feel important/from the 1960s.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

hipster professor standard.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

the academic jumpsuit.

also, depending on the length of the beard, hobo vs. professor.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And the leafs face the leafs in a back to back tomorrow…they need to win that.

by jeffgm on Jan 16, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sens?

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be impressive, if it goes to OT do the Leafs get all 3 points?

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhhh…. sens less.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on Boston do us a favour

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

ok so this is weird

I’m sitting here typing and for no reason at all the bookmars on my Chrome toolbar start disappearing, complete with a little animation and accompanying sound.

i have no idea why this happened. but it appears they’re gone forever.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Virus?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

well, it’s a Mac, so unlikely.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

wreckd

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

lol.

true story: i’ve only owned this Mac for a few weeks. it’s the first i’ve ever owned. i bought it so begrudgingly, after i returned a Sony Vaio back to Best Buy twice because it was a POS.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t tell if you’re serious.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m mostly serious?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

If you don’t have an antivirus running you are pretty exposed.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

even on a Mac? (i’m serious here. I’m brand new to Mac’s. and i’ve been told by Mac fanbois for years that there are no Mac viruses)

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They exaggerate

There are a lot less viruses on macs (a large reason is that less are simply written for them). But they still exist and you should have antivirus software.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

just downloaded the university one. i’m pretty stupid for thinking otherwise. i was anti-mac for so long, then as soon as i bought one i started drinking the kool-aid.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

you should have gotten a PhD in not being stupid.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

you should be the CFO of the jerk store.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

( . ) ( . )

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Guilty admission: I think a virus induced Mac apocalypse would be absolutely hilarious. The ultimate I TOLD YOU SO!

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i used to be in the same boat.

as i said before, i only bought it because every other laptop sucked by comparison.

the Mac also gives me a linux terminal which is super useful for my work.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I understand people getting it for work. I just stay away from all apple products.

ITS A TRAP

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't say that with Chemmy around.

Friendly advice.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I’ve noticed, to each their own in the end.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You didn’t want to emulate linux through a superior windows machine?

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s generally too demanding on bandwidth.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Florida getting at least a point

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

Florida has heaps of loser points

Also fuck Clemmenson

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Sens are Shutout

Hopefully that lowers their confidence for tomorrow.

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by Joe Ferguson on Jan 16, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

a fun game to play on PPP:

read a few of the last comments in a thread, then try to guess the topic of the initial comment that started the thread.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Penile implants?

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

90% of threads start with penile implants.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

VRN was waiting for his delayed flight, wishing he hadn’t taken westjet, and opened up his email. There was one from his financial adviser and one about penile implants. He clicked on the penile implant email and got a virus on his new mac, which surprised him.

by TheDeek on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Gotta admit… explains a lot.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 16, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

you just made twitter a little bit cooler

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d for Memento… probably the only movie I went and watched again immediately after I saw it the first time in order to not miss anything

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I own the DVD and there’s a feature that plays the film in chronological order. Pretty neat.

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- Sten, of the Qunari

by GreatKingRat on Jan 16, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

jealous

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

pedantic pet peeve

i believe in Memento he describes what he has as ‘no short-term memory’.

in fact, his short-term memory is perfectly fine. he has anterograde amnesia.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

pedantic pet peeve = PPP

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

lol.

can this be the new masthead?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

or tagline or whatever.

speaking of pedantic.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate when people don’t capitalize anything and reply to their own posts. Huge pet peeve

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate when people don’t end their thoughts with a period. did you hit TAB + TAB + ENTER by accident there, buddy?

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate mushrooms!

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate when people call me buddy

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

oh god, me too. it was purposeful. so condescending.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 16, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I’M NOT YOUR BUDDY, GUY!

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Buddy, I knew that

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Anterograde amnesia can also be caused by alcohol intoxication, a phenomenon commonly known as a blackout. Studies show that rapid rises in blood alcohol concentration over a short period of time severely impairs or in some cases completely blocks the brain’s ability to transfer short-term memories created during the period of intoxication to long-term memory for storage and later retrieval. Such rapid rises in blood alcohol concentration are caused by drinking large amounts of alcohol in short periods of time, especially on an empty stomach, as the digestion of food slows the absorption of alcohol. Alcohol-related anterograde amnesia is directly related to the rate of consumption of alcohol (and is often associated with binge drinking), and not just the total amount of alcohol consumed in a drinking episode.

interesting. and very true. when I blackout, generally the last thing i remember is the shot (or 2nd shot) of tequila i did.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant it’s like watching Memento. You have to piece together things in reverse.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck the Sens?

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 16, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

half mast

wait – how old is clowe??

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares

Fake Kypreos, oops

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that makes sense. since I can’t see why the sharks would trade clowe at this point.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

29 now. 30 in september.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He’ll be 30 in September. He’s also a 20g, 30+a guy who plays with guys like Havlat, Marleau, Couture, and Thornton.

In other words, he’s a 15g, 25a player on the Leafs. Do not want.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

also a winger IIRC? unless Kulemin goes the other way he’d be playing on our 3rd line.

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t trade Kule for marginal upgrade that is 5 years older.

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, I wouldn’t think Kulie would go the other way, but that’d be the only way a trade for clowe would remotely make sense… and even then, it doesn’t make sense

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 16, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

wut

elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly

by sportsfan2 on Jan 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Fake Kyper

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 16, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

YOUR FACE!

About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
Certified Gunnar & Kule lover!
My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.

by BCapp on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d for being fooled by fake kyper

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

God damn it

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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