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A Win Alone Isn't Worth Much

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A Win is a Win; It's 'Value' Depends on the Next Two Weeks - Mike Langlois on Vintage Leaf Memories

The Wild, though, have retreated not only in their overall play, but in the standings. They haven’t played well at home or away from home. Which brings us to the old Harry Neale line, uttered when he was the coach of a poor and struggling struggling Red Wing team in the 1980s (and I paraphrase): "We can’t win at home and we struggle on the road. Our problem is finding a place to play…".

Despite their poor play in recent weeks, who knows, by March, the Wild may be hot again, eh?

In short, what I’m saying is we, as fans, should probably be ever-cautious in making any dramatic pronouncements, or at least making them too soon. Ottawa and Minnesota are just two teams that show it’s often too early to start naming playoff teams, also-rans or MVP’s, etc. now, much less one month into the season.

I have a similar feeling when watching the Leafs. As a fan base, what I sometimes feel like I’m seeing (and I’m part of it) is we get drawn into thinking that certain guys are worth more than they really are, or playing better than they really are. A guy scores a goal (even if it goes in off his back side) and we start to think, maybe he's playing pretty well after all...

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BCP asks the question.

Reconfigured Leafs Sink Wild

And here we though the Wilson blender would be stuck on puree.

G&M Sports Roundtable

Yourk, Mirtle, and Duhatschek talk all things NHL. Always a good listen.

Game 46 in 10

Mislav breaks it down.

The Lines They Are a Changing

He sorta quoted Bob Dylan. This guy rules.

Marlies Various Update - Stagnancy Edition

Jeffler look at the Baby Buds.

Questionable Qorrelations

Danny Grey thinks Ron Wilson should keep his mouth shut.

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Puck Drawn with some design submissions for a possible expansion.

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I would just like to point out that Gus’ 0.914 ES S% is tied with Carey Price.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

Get Gauthier on the phone Burkie, do it now

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by PKSube on Jan 20, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

If he is demanding $7million over 10yrs I can’t see BB giving him that contract.

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Who, Price?

Professional cusser causer.

by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah. that’s the report on what Price is asking. Sounds like he turned down the Rinne special

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That sounds kind of ridiculous. Who wants to spend 10 years in Montreal?

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s his way out. He requests an absurd deal that he knows they won’t agree to, it looks like he really wanted to stay but the organization wouldn’t do it.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Montreal does agree to the terms and Price thinks “Shit, I’m set for life… even if it is Montreal”. Easy to ignore the booing with big wads of money shoved in your ears.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wads of Money: Work just as well as Stanley Cup rings.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If Roy becomes coach, GM, demigod of the Habs it will entertaining to watch the dynamic between those 2 play out.

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Let alone Roy with the rest of the Habs organization.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Cheap cigarettes and jailbait in ample supply = happy Price

"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."

by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Do we even know if that is close to being true? I still doubt it

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by Semi_Colon on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Rec’d for equal parts Rounders reference and sound strategerizing.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Despite Gus’ play of late and Reimer’s play of earlier, I still don’t think these two are “known quantities” when it comes to goaltending. If Burke goes another season by rolling the dice between the pipes, I’ll pull my hair out. I’m done with ‘potential’, I’m done with ‘flahses’, I’m done with ‘learning the game’. Get in a proven goalie who will give this team league average stats and pay that man whatever he wants.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree,
what I wouldnt give for price. cant really get a better option right now other than lundqvist & rinne, or someone less proven like rask, schneider etc
Look at the age and stats, damn

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

No way I’m giving up 5 first rounders for Price……no way!

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by Alspicer on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Random threats. I like it.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever he gets a new contract, I will bet anyone $100 that that is the NHL.com headline for the story.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s just begging to be used. Someone’s gotta bite the bullet.

In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.

by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

But, if we got price, how would we ever come up with such clever game recaps as “The Price is Wrong, Bitch”

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by kudzupo on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, since Bob wins that fight…

Now you’ve had enough. Bitch.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Any possibility that Mr. ‘Grey’ gave to me was Lindback out of Nashville. But I think he falls into the unproven boat.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Bernier, Schneider, Bobrovsky, Lindback, Bishop. All unproven, high ceilings, and theoretically shouldn’t be on anyone’s “untouchable” list, but any of them would be stocking up on a second Reimer.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how guarenteed Bishop is,
you can add Markstrom there though, and Enroth

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

None of them are guaranteed, and Markstrom is definitely on Florida’s “untouchable” list. Not sure that Enroth has the same “above average NHL starter” potential that the others have, and honestly, I don’t care how good he is, I don’t want the Leafs to roll the dice on a 5’10" (if that) goaltender.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of height, Bishop’s 6’7" would be awesome with Allaire.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Bishop and Lindback are both giants.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they’re too big. Very few truly huge guys have the skill to pull it all together. Name a huge forward that isn’t Jagr or Lemieux that was dominate. Name a huge goalie. Name a huge defenseman not named Chara or Pronger.

Pretty hard to do.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Tyler Myers is fantastic.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah ok there buddy.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike Weber had been ice for basically every goal the Sabres have allowed this week, before yesterday.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Dryden pretty big?

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

6’4"

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Dryden was like 6’4 or something, but players were a lot closer to average height back then so that would have been considered very tall.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Eric Lindros.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair. My point being though, it’s an anamoly for huge guys to be dominated athletes.

There has only ever been one Shaq, and then a bunch of big fat flow guys trying to be like him.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You are forgetting of course Sir Charles, and Dikembe Mutombo wags his finger at you

Dwight Howard is pretty good too

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Fat, slow, under 7 foot.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, didn’t realize he was only 6’ 6"

But Dikembe Mutombo and Dwight Howard still stand.

Randy Johnson too, not that he really needed to be very fast.

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Dikembe wasn’t a dominant all around player, just a dominant shot blocker. Which isn’t all that hard to do when you’re 7’2 and semi-mobile.

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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Howard is nothing like the same quality as Shaq, other than at free throws.

I’d add Chamberlain though.

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is going to bring up Hakeem Olajuwon? That guy had everything you could ever want from a 7 ft player

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by Ghostsof on Jan 20, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

How could I forget Olajuwon… that guy was awesome!!

I forgot to mention, Shaq was a generational talent in his prime, but Howard is still pretty awesome… I really want him to come play with Rose on the Bulls (Rose, Boozer, Deng, Howard…)

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Bill Russell? the original dominant centre

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I woulda brought him up but apparently we’re talking a 7ft cutoff. Russell was at most 6’10 although I’ve seen him listed as low as 6’9

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by Ghostsof on Jan 20, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

but for the time he was still the biggest… a 6’10 person in the ’50’s is lik a 7 footer now

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer the clearly taller than the rest cutoff

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude if we’re playing that game, the list starts and ends with Bill Russell. It’s him and then everybody else

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by Ghostsof on Jan 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yah he was the freakest freak among the freaks

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I still vote Jabbar due to his awesome Kung Fu skills

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m too young to remember Jabbar’s fu but I do remember Shaq-fu!

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh then you have to rent/buy The Game of Death documentary/parts of the movie they finished.

It’s both an awesome biography of Bruce Lee, but it let’s you see most of the Game of Death that he was filming when he died

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

But I think you’re leaving out the fact that the % of population taller than say 6’6 is tiny. A lot harder to find talent in that small of a population. Maybe like 1 in 1000.

by Dr_Furious on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew a 6’4 C that was pretty good for a couple decades.

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m talking like 6’6" and above. Like super huge.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its just more rare that people are that tall, not that they aren’t good when they’re that huge

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Boyle, Boogaard, Scott, Sutton, Aulie…

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys can just be too big to be quick enough to truly excel. That’s my only concern with humongous big goalies like Lindback and Bishop.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

They take up so much net though. As long as they are playing the angles properly and in position the puck will just hit them.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I like how Pekka Rinne plays like a 6’5 version of Tim Thomas.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

His glove is insane. Every now and then you can see him drop his glove to bait guys into shooting glove side.

(Side note: beer league shooters, would this work on you?)

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Enroth does that on shootouts, but five-hole.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

if I see the top right corner that wide open I’m gonna giver

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion, most goalies hold their gloves in a terrible position – too high and back. I was taught that the best way was to have the glove out in front of the body and low, ie inbetween the knee and top of leg pad. The player will ‘see’ a huge opening in the top corner, but it’s mostly covered because of the glove positioning in relation to the puck at ice level. Finnish typically have their hands in front of the body – which cuts down on the angle

by m3smth on Jan 20, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not a fan of the Howard-style glove-high, but it’s pretty hard to argue that it’s not an effective style in the NHL today.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Just not the upside-down Scrivens glove, anything but that

Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.

by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Cobra style!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually keep my glove around belly button height and about a foot infront of my body…

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Is the ratio of high quality at that height any different than at any other height. Like if you split up the league into <6’ 6’0-6’2 6’2-6’4 6’4+ would the ratio of awesome players be any different by height?

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

6’-6’2" would have the best players.

The Sedins, Lupul, Kessel, Stamkos, Giroux, and Toews all fall in that height ranger.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

range*

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

For sure

But wouldn’t there also be way more players in that range (so a larger denominator). I am wondering if the ratio is any higher.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Course then you get into the parameters of what a great player is, and then we get into semantic arguments. Oh wait we like that right?

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

even if you just go with great to elite point producers
top of my head the only 1 I would call elite who was over 6’2 was Mario

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Lindros and Jagr.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Messier for a couple years….but yeah, compared to the medium height guys it is a short list

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

For sure, but the whole list of players at that size is short. So I wonder if the actual ratio is the same.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This needs a fanpost to solve it, with charts and graphs.

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by theninjagreg on Jan 20, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Franson, Steckel

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure you can look to history, and I’m positive you’re not doing any good to look for skater comparables. If you’ve got a tall guy who’s proportioned well, he should – in theory – be able to play a little deeper in his crease and still take away the top corners with his shoulders. It’s no good if you’re talking about height that’s all in a guy’s legs (aggressive positioning means the extra inch or two could be taking away space on the bottom of the net that’s already covered) but if you can play at Lundqvist’s* depth – conserving the distance you’re moving cross-crease – and still stop guys from picking the corner. Yeah, it can be done differently, and I’m not suggesting that height is a magic bullet, but I understand why Nashville consistently picks tall goaltenders.

* Though, I’ll note that Lundqvist plays at Lundqvist’s depth, and he’s only listed as 6’1. But, y’know, he’s ridiculous.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that because they’re tall, or is it because you’re looking for two small populations that overlap:

1. really tall people
2. elite athletes

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it’s also a restricted range problem. like correlating GRE scores with grad school success.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 20, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nathan Gerbe

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by theninjagreg on Jan 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s defiantly a backup-quality goaltender… though not an allaire-like goalie in any respect.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d love to see Lindberg in a Leafs jersey.

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by Blinky on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Both wrong. The correct answer is Josh Harding + Adamentium grafting

No no, dig UP stupid.

by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 AM EST up reply actions  

That is what I was saying last year when running with Gus Reimer. Reimer was a question mark so we needed a known quantity beside him.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d. I read that with Malkovich’s Russian accent in my head.

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by JeanValjean on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m good with both moves. Also would be okay with a move for Josh “bad knees” Harding if he doesn’t cost too much.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

you saved me the trouble. :)

His overall SV% isn’t far behind either.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

WOOOOO

V.v.V

Crabb’s goal was hilarious.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

also hilarious

Was Antropov’s goal on Miller

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

but was it as hilarious as Jamie McGinn’s “hit” last night?

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s spelled Gray.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

Not in my world.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Dorian?

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 20, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I always use “grey”.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, it’s wrong.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Based on what? I thought they were both right, with “grey” being derived from UK English and “grey” coming from US English.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I just meant for my last name specifically.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, didn’t know. I have a friend with the first name Grayson or Gray for short, so for the colour I always use “grey”.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh the colour is definitely “grey”

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I now realize the context of this entire conversation. Honestly didn’t even look through the links this morning.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE MY POST WAS REALLY GOOD. GO READ IT NOW AS PENANCE.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you owe me an email

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Indeed I do. On it.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I will read it after class.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

From here on out I’m referring to the Leafs as the Toronto Stars and Stripes.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 8:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It really sucks that we lost the buffalo and ottawa games. They really hurt. If we had won we’d be in 6th

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by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Another of the Leafs biggest problems is that they have a terrible losing record to teams in a playoff spot. Way too many points to be giving up.

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by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Most teams on the outside looking in have this problem.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Most teams on the outside definitely would have benefited from winning more games.

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by daoust on Jan 20, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

points % is highly correlated with wins.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

very true. winning is also highly correlated with wins.

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by daoust on Jan 20, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And also making the playoffs! Damn It’s so simple!

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1. Win games
2. Get points
3. ??
4. PLAYOFFS!!!1

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

League-wide, the average record against playoff teams is a losing one.

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, 6-11-1 doesn’t factor that two teams in particular (OTT/BOS) have had our number. 1-7-0 against them, 5-4-1 against the other six.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 20, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

15-4-3 against teams currently not in the playoffs.
8-14-2 against teams currently in the playoffs.

Playoff teams we have beaten and their records when we beat them.

OTT: 0-1-0
NYR: 3-2-2
PIT: 8-2-2
NJ: 4-4-1
STL: 7-7-0
WSH: 10-6-1
NYR: 15-5-3
DET: 25-13-1

Only 5 of the current playoff teams that we have beaten had better than .500 records when we beat them and when we beat Washington they had lost 5 of the previous 6 games (1-4-1). The teams in bold above are the impressive wins against top teams that were playing really well at the time. There are just 3 of those.

Maybe most disappointing/important are the Leafs 2 losses to the Florida Panthers. I think if the Leafs make the playoffs it is most likely that we beat out the Panthers who are just one point ahead of the Leafs right now (though with a game in hand).

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Insta-rec.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

4-11-2 against playoff teams
10-4-2 against non-playoff teams

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like a bubble team to me.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup. They seem to be slotted right where they should be. Better than the bad, can’t really match up with the good. Mediocrity at its best.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually mediocrity would be what the Sabres are right now, or the Hurricanes.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Mediocre: of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad; barely adequate:

I think that describes the Leafs. I don’t think Sabres or Hurricanes fans consider their teams performance even up to the ‘barely adequite’ level.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Fans wouldn’t, but from an objective stand point I’d say the mediocre NHL teams are the ones who draft between 6-15 or whatever.
I’d say the Leafs in the playoff race at the All-Star break is better than ordinary quality.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

This is obviously totally semantic, but since more teams in the NHL make the playoffs than don’t, and even more are in the playoff race come January, being in the race isn’t out of the ordinary. Being out of the race is below league average.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

This is obviously totally semantic,

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been burned for getting into semantic debates before, so I felt I should acknowledge it up front.

In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.

by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re going to make a fine lawyer…

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

110% semantics. 83% hyperbole.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I enjoy the hyperbolic use of percentages.

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I prefer the hyperbaric use of percentages

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 20, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My day is made

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I love you for that.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats not all that you love me for

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Hanging seven on the Caps wasn’t impressive?

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

at the time they were out of the playoffs IIRC

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 20, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If HockeyAnalysis’ record up there is right, the Caps were 10-6-1 when the Leafs decked them.

That is a 101 point pace. No way the Caps were out of the playoffs at that time.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

take away the 7-0 start, and how were they?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

take away the 7-0 start, and how were they?

You sound like someone on the tsn.ca comments section

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by Kevin Costner on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You summed it up so eloquently.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT DONNY!!

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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 20, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if you come around here often, but there are a lot of inside jokes. THat was one.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

take away the 7-0 start, and how were they?

You sound like HockeyAnalysis someone on the tsn.ca comments section

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

take away the 7-0 start, and how were they?

You HockeyAnalysis sounds like someone on the tsn.ca comments section

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

there it is

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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

BURKE SHOIULD HAVE TRADED SHCNEN FOR SIDNEY CROSBY LOL LAUFGHS SHEEPS

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They were in 6th spot, just behind Toronto who were in 5th.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup so I’d say that should be included as an impressive win.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll accept mildly impressive. The Caps still went 1-4-1 in the 6 games prior to facing the Leafs and were in the middle of a 3-9-1 stretch. As good as the win was, the Capitals weren’t playing their best hockey at the time, particularly defense and goaltending.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs usually only win when they’re playing better than the team they beat.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you go through the losing teams to see how many were on three game winning streaks when the Leafs beat them?

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but I think we need to keep these types of games in perspective. When you see 7-1 scores it usually means the losing side simply did not show up for work.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

They threw 40 shots at Gustavsson.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

True. Does that make the win more, or less, impressive?

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

What does your spreadsheet say

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

More. The Leafs got a lead and were able to keep the Caps offense to the perimeter. If anything the Leafs have been great (17-0 when going into 3rd period with a lead) at protecting leads.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Just 15-8-1 (21st in NHL) when scoring first. It seems they frequently have a let down when they score first, but if they can overcome that they are good to go for the rest of the game. They are 16-3-0 when leading after one period.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think scoring first is overrated, especially for the Leafs. I am definitely always worried when we score first that the other team will get one, but generally also remain optimistic about a win when the Leafs get scored on first.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

They are 8-10-4 when they get scored on first so I think it is definitely a good thing that they do score first. It would just be nice if they were a little better at maintaining that early lead.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

But is 8-10-4 not better than the league average? I just think for the Leafs this season “who scores first” doesn’t matter as much as it used to/does for other teams.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s about league average, 14th in NHL.

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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

14th is playoff territory. I see that as a positive.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re number 14, we’re number 14

Doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it demonstrates that this wasn’t a case of a team not showing up for work that night?

This was a team that still put a lot of pressure on their opponent and yet got throttled.

That makes it an impressive win.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the positive from this is that we’re finally beating teams we should beat, in years past we would throw away points by losing to horrible teams. The first step towards making the playoffs is to consistently beat weaker teams.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well at least were 8-10-2 against playoff teams not named Boston.

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by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Boston is so stupid.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Is it me

Or is 10-6-1 definitely better than 0.500?

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

If you just ignore all of the games we’ve lost, and count them as wins, we’d be in first

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by JohnerstonRex on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but if you ignore all the games they’ve won, they’re drafting 1st overall

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a win-win-win situation.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

or a win-ignore win situation if you will

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it January 25th yet?

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. Could be tough to sleep on Tuesday nights…

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by JeanValjean on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Or work on Wed.

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by Eterrible on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

how much would it suck if he held out till thrs

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Alumni and outdoor game question...

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Was wondering the same thing. Would be nice to see the old-timers.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

No they said on HockeyCentral at Noon yesterday it won’t be televised

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

What a load of turd.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Nuts to the old jerks.

Owen Sound vs London on Sportsnet tonight.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Will be checking this game out. Owen Sound also one of my favourite teams to watch.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

More trade rumblings from LeBrun: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/13936/trade-rumblings-with-demand-peaking-which-forwards-are-available

Vermette would be a good pick-up, but probably in the summer instead of now. He’d be a great 3rd line C.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

really? do we need a 3C?

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by daoust on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

What’s the point of replacing Player A with another Player A? Just keep who we’ve got now and save the fans some money by not having unnecessary player turnover year after year.

Burke did this last year by going with Dupuis over Brent, a bad move, and if he does it again I’ll flip my shit. Look at Detroit. Their 3rd and 4th lines have had just about zero turnover in the last decade.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You’ve already flipped that shit a few times. I’d say it’s done.

Get some sauce, ‘nuff cookin’.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

unless the new player is a big guy thats solid defensively then yeah I agree

by pho king awesome on Jan 20, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the Antoine Vermette that gets 3.75M for another 3 years right?

The 29 year old, 18 points this season, getting paid more than Matthew Lombardi for longer Antoine Vermette?

Pass a doodle do

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Assuming the Leafs let Grabovski walk, sure. Vermette’s a better option at center than Lombardi is.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I am now firmly anti letting Grabbo go

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Been there pretty much all along.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I was on the fence, but watching him play is such a treat. I dont remember seeing anyone who keeps their legs moving like GRabbo does. He is always moving

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Unless you’re going out and landing a Getzlaf this summer, there’s no one out there that is a huge upgrade over Connolly-Grabovski- Bozak down the middle for this team.

Connolly and Lupul expire in 2013 and create top six jobs for Colborne and Kadri.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much ya.
Also, Grabbo rules

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that our brains are still in “rebuild mode” we never had guys worth keeping when Burke showed up. This is the first crop of players it makes sense to keep around, especially if this team makes the playoffs.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a numbers game that isn’t in Grabovski’s favor right now.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I think after Kessel and Lupul, Grabbo has shown he is the most consistent leaf.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, but the Leafs have Bozak and Connolly signed through next season and Colborne waiting for a chance.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

So Colborne waits.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a real problem throwing aside a 28 year old who, over the last three seasons has been our best forward not named Phil Kessel, for a 30 year old who was signed as a short-term bridge, a 26 year old who can only contribute offensively when he plays with the best player on the team, and a 22 year old rookie.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

FWIW, when I looked at the lineup and tried to forecast likely moves (for my article in this year’s Maple Leafs Annual), I came to the conclusion that Grabbo is the most likely candidate to move.

I don’t disagree with any of the Grabbo love above – I am, and have been for some time after all, a Certified Grabbo Lover – but every way I looked at it, he seemed like the likely piece to move.

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by jrwendelman on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure “trade him to a contender at the deadline for long term assets” is the same as “throwing aside.”

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Assets that we could then package with other assets we already have to land an upgrade somewhere, maybe even 1C if Burke can swing it.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I would move out Bozak over Grabbo in a heartbeat. COlborne is gonna be good, but he is still relatively unknown

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to agree. Keeping Grabbo would be a smart move. I’d be curious to see what kind of interest Bozak would net alone or in a package.

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by JeanValjean on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m fine with moving Bozak instead of Grabovski, but I think the team at least needs to present Colborne with the opportunity to make the team next season. Of course, this entire thing could change if Burke is able to trade for a centre to play with Kessel.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Grabovski > Colborne

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by theninjagreg on Jan 20, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

a big ass offer at the deadline, that’s how

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabbo is awesome and I doubt he is traded before the deadline unless it’s an upgrade. Feels like BB will wait to see what he can swing at the draft/free agency before signing or letting him go. He is too valuable to the team in the stretch

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always been a fan of Vermette’s game. He’s one of the league’s top faceoff men, he plays extremely physical, and he moves the puck in the right direction. Put a little more talent on his wings than Sami Pahlsson and Derek Dorsett, and he’d have better numbers.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think I have ever heard anyone describe Vermette as physical

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s the thing—he’s not. He’s like Yanic Perreault in the dot but from what I understand, no other part of his game is above-average.

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WOOOO TEAM #RESIGNGRABBO

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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 21, 2012 4:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I would much rather pay Grabovski 5M for the next 3 years than Vermette 3.75.

That’s a massive step backwards.

Who the hell cares if Vermette’s a better centre than Lombardi? Lombardi plays wing on this team.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Jochen Hecht is likely available and he’s way better than Vermette.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

no, just no

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The leafs have insufficient German awesomeness on their team.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

we have Mueller and Holzer in the AHL, we are covered

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Hm.. True. Well he’s worth a second round pick (or more) anyway so you probably wouldn’t want him.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically Grabbo was born in Germany.

/lawyered

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

The best kind of correct’d.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

If we want German awesomeness we can always just call up Mueller… dude is the most German looking guy I’ve ever seen

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

No one who speaks German can be evil!

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

The beard, the!

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bart, The

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 20, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

18pts in 46 games. THIS GUY IS AMAZING! WOW! Hell yeah let’s talk on his horrible contract woooooooo

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s playing with Derek Dorsett and Sami Pahlsson.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

And he’d be playing with Colby “Tissue Paper” Armstrong and god knows who else. They’re called 3rd liners and you don’t pay $3.75M for a 3rd liner.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Leafs are paying >3M for 2 3rd liners this year

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

LALALLALLALLAAL I CAN’T HEAR YOU LALALLLALALLLALALALLA

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

In all fairness, they didn’t expect one of them to play and Lombardi came back early too

waka waka

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bozak
Connolly
Colborne
Steckel

If we’re taking on another center, I’d like it to be whoever’s going to be replacing Connolly long term or whoever will be pushing Bozak down the depth chart. Not sure Vermette and his contract fit either of those descriptions, and given that price tag, he’d better be coming back with someone (or something) very good along side him.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

So someone like Jeff Carter?

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean Rick Nash right?

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I watched a Columbus game the other day and man I forgot just how freaking good Rich Nash is. He moves the puck and himself almost effortlessly. It’s so smooth is eery.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

And at this point you’d have to think he’s just going through the motions there.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s too tired from his trying to tunnel out of the blue jackets dressing room. Little known fact, they lock him in there at night so he has no choice but show up to practice each day.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone photoshop Scott Howson's face onto this.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

MOTHER OF GOD.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how you kept Morgan Freeman…

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s a must though – the movie is nothing without him.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I regret I have but one rec to give

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Shawshank Redemption was filmed at an abandoned prison only 1 hour North of Columbus.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Full circle.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

In a small town called Mansfield. My brother moved there with his wife in the early 2000’s and when I told him, he went to check it out the next day. His words were “Spookular dude”

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by Ghostsof on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Easily a top 10 favourite flick of all time.

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So Columbus = Mansfield, Toronto + Zihuatanejo.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Sometimes it seems this cycle never ends, we slide from top to bottom then we turn and climb again.

by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

unbelievable
bravo

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by sportsfan2 on Jan 20, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

his brother rick is pretty good too.

by JohnerstonRex on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re referring to Bobby Ryan?

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is he a better option than Lombardi?

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t he pretty pricey for what he brings? Is he an upgrade on Lombardi and if so what do we do with Lombardi?

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Best part of this article?
Potential top-six forwards available? Again, it doesn’t mean all these players will move, but these are names we’ve heard that could be in play: Derek Roy, Brad Boyes and Drew Stafford in Buffalo; Vaclav Prospal, Antoine Vermette and Kristian Huselius in Columbus; Ales Hemsky in Edmonton; Tuomo Ruutu in Carolina; and the suddenly hot Jason Blake in Anaheim.

I’m laughing.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Semin will be in play – don’t see WSH resigining him

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

For the first time, I have a link to submit to the FTB. It’s kinda old, dates to October last year, but I think we’ll all be entertained by it: http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2011/10/6/2473097/knowing-the-enemy-the-maple-leafs-in-2011-12

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by Be26 on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

Choice titbits include:
That being said, the Habs are still better. So I can eloquantly, and accurately conclude: “Leafs Suck”.
What’s always endlessly amusing to me is how the people gravitating around the Leafs feel that they must validate themselves by comparison with the Habs, and have been more or less implying that the teams are really roughly equivalent in talent and should expect similar results.
So yeah, I’ll understand if the irony of you guys making short jokes goes over your head. It might be a little too heavy for you. :D

followed by

The Montreal Canadiens forwards are in fact the shortest in the league averaging just under 6’ tall. (71.85")

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by Be26 on Jan 20, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

…the fricking Bruins, as well as the suddenly wealthy Buffalo Sabres. The staff here at Eyes on the Prize thinks that the Canadiens are at least the equal of those teams, and we think last season’s results coupled with offseason moves and projections confirm that

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Most of us, me included, are banned there.

/smug

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I tried hard last field trip, including multiple blue sparkly maple leaf banners, but they didn’t see it fit to ban me….I must try harder next time!

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by kudzupo on Jan 20, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i need to scrounge up a new kettle picture

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

From the comments:
It really feels like 93! just like 2011, and 2010, and 2009….

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Also known as years when the Habs played hockey past early april. Something they’ll do again this season.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I like this article:

Leafs hope to emulate Habs’ consistency

Yes, consistent mediocrity should be the Leafs’ longterm goal…

by Papa Squid on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Regarding those Seattle concept jerseys

Take the Seattle Metropolitans name and logo (nice nod to their history), put them on that Seattle Lumberjacks jersey, and you’d have one bitchin jersey.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I like the Navigators one. Amazing.

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by birky on Jan 20, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The Lumberjacks one seems to be basically picking up the defunct Sonics’ colour scheme, which seems like a good move marketing-wise, as a new NHL team would be filling that void.

I like the Metropolitans name, though the jersey there is a little too WHA for me. I’d suggest going with a PCHA throwback design, except that it’d have to be a Christmas-coloured barberpole, and that’s a little much.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 20, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

So last night I definitely had a dream where the Leafs traded Schenn, Kulemin and a prospect for the 1st overall pick and drafted Nail. This is going to be a long day.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Weird, I had a Leafs related dream last night also, but it involved a personal altercation with Damien Cox.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s no good. I woke up with “We don’t have to fail for Nail!” repeating in my mind. Now I have to…live my life I guess?

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

FailForNail Update

Only Edmonton and Minnesota have out-sucked us in the past four weeks. I don’t really know if the Sabres can play worse than Edmonton. Heck, if they swapped teams with the Amerks we might still be better than Edmonton.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

BUF 43
NYI 42
MTL 42
TB 40
CAR 40
ANA 39
EDM 38
CBJ 31

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, only making up 2 points a month against columbus makes them pretty difficult to catch.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I doubt Columbus can be caught.

Everyone is playing for second and hoping for some lottery luck.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

L-3bda

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Signing Lebda should result in an automatic fine for Columbus for admitting to tanking.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

GM is a failure:

THE SABRES SHOULD HAVE POACHED HIM.

did he need re-entry waivers? Sabres should have claimed him. Can’t let elite talent like that go to your competition.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

In theory, if the Sabres when no more than 3 games this season, Columbus will catch them.

Though with the addition of the elite tanking defender Brett Lebda i think Columbus will not make their projected 50-point pace.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

If that was a pun, it was a most excellent one.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Aaaaaaaamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzeeee

iinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Today is a good day

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t even see the knob!

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Somebody save the children!

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by Semi_Colon on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

A fire sale? Or one of these?

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh, my dad sent me this picture last week.. I wonder what they thought they were saying.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

and not names Ryan Johansen or Rick Nash. I think the defenceman, Moore wont be moved as well

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Edmonton is breath-takingly bad… it’s hard to finish last overall… but two years in a row? And a chance at a three-peat (though 7 pts is a large hurdle)

by Papa Squid on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Edmonton’s goaltending to start the year was hilariously unsustainable, combine a goaltending plummet back to earth with half of their young stars getting injured and it wasn’t hard to see this coming for them

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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t tell that to the Oil’s upper echelon brass.

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I told you guys we'd win last night!

The Leafs are 4-0-1 this season when I’m in attendance. The game was great, it was nice to see the Leafs kick the crap out of some poor team for a change.

One cool highlight was seeing pretty much the entire front office (plus others) after the game. Since I was sitting really high and kind of off to the side, by looking up I could see the entrance/exit door to the media gondola. After the game ended, Brian Burke, Dave Nonis, Cliff Fletcher, Mikko Koivu, James Mirtle (I think), and Damien Cox (fuck that guy) all walked out, about 10 feet from my seats. Pretty cool experience.

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by MLS on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

BURKE WAS TALKING TO KOIVU????!!1

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

FIRE UP THE TWITTERS

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

SOMEONE TELL EKLUND!

by Peter Lynn on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Above the press gondola is where the boxes for the teams are at. Burke’s box, injured player’s box, visiting team’s GM box, visiting team’s scratches box, etc….

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Further

They all exit from the same side as the other is more of a ‘back door’ that takes you down to where the Zambonis and stuff are, while the main door leads to a stairwell/elevator to the dressing rooms.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

You just made it sound like all these guys came out of the same suite. That can’t be right.

by Peter Lynn on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

TAMPERING

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Well they came out in bunches. First the Leafs front office, then Koivu, then the media.

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by MLS on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah I’d rather assume you claimed a deal was being done where we fleece Minnesota, and blame you when it doesn’t happen.

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by Redonred on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

oh twitter

Ferraro:

Really? Well that’s pretty stupid “@sullyman1010: IF I EVER SEE YOU FACE2FACE ILL PUNCH YOU in face FOR saying SHUTOUT DURING THE GAME.”

Gord Miller:


Astonishing that in the 21st century there are people who think that an announcer saying shutout can make a goalie lose one.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

I get their reaction to people freaking out at them on Twitter, but they should know better than to say shutout when a goalie is close.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

in other news,I wore my Leafs hat to work yesterday and they won. correlation?

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m more in the camp that someone should buy me seasons because the Leafs are undefeated in regulation in the 5 games I’ve attended this year. One can dream.

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by MLS on Jan 20, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s aways something that annoys me (just like mentioning that guy never misses when he’s about to shoot free throws in basketball), but yeah I’m not sure it’s worth getting that upset about

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Lupul got kind of thrown off when he was being interviewed during the 2nd intermission and the interviewer (forget who) mentioned the Leafs were 16-0 when leading going into the third.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I can understand as an athlete you don’t want people telling you stuff like that before the end of the game. But an announcer saying the word shutout?

Full disclosure: when watching the game, I winced when he said that, and then felt like an idiot.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s true, when the interviewer said that to Lupul I was like “what? why would you say that”. Honestly didn’t even notice Ferraro saying shutout but that’s because I wasn’t paying a large amount of attention in the 3rd.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

As a goalie, I don’t care what other people talk about, as long as its not in front of me. All goalies obviously know when they have a shot at a shutout, however its easier when its just you thinking about it with yourself. For me whenever someone else mentions it however I started to get a bit nervous because then others are counting on you and you feel the need to prove yourself to them.

The same thing happened to me a couple times when my coach before the game told me “Eric we need a huge game from you or we won’t be able to beat this team”. That is a whole shit load of pressure to put on a 14 year old (at the time). I had no problem throwing out big games in big moments when I knew the team needed me, however when they tell me “we’re fucked without you” is when I started letting in a couple soft goals because you start trying TOO hard.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus we already all know it was VRN’s fault.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly. We need to keep our focus here.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Bettman’s holding the deal up.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you guys aren’t going to put me on the trading block now are you?

I am a bit of a blogger-room cancer.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 20, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

But your tire pumping skills will keep you in the lineup for a while yet.

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 20, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Kadri...

looked pretty darn good last night

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Kadri, so hot right now. Kadri.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

KADRI!!

Best celebration ever at 25 secs in1

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

As did Lupul.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Lupul was actually carrying Kessel and no one knew it.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

is

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

funny

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

but

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

wrong

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was hoping the sarcasm was implied so i wouldn’t have to use the stupid code tags.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

oh I knew you were being sarcastic it was the “this” like it was true that needed to be corrected

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

-Henny

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I admit he did. He didn’t make any stupid mistakes or try to be too cute and was still effective. He needs to play like that more.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s games like that that make me think that, despite some of his mistakes, he’s going to be pretty good in a couple years

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He needs to be consistent tho.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the linemates helped him a lot. Skating with MacArthur and a grinder doesn’t bring out the best in him, in my opinion.

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

When did he ever skate with macarthur and a grinder?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri Linemates

Prior to last night’s game, his most common linemates were macarthur, lombardi, crabb. (kadri linemates link)

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean 5th in goal scoring on the Leafs Joey Crabb.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

5th in goals.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Lombardi is a grinder now?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

What else is he? He’s a fast guy who turns the puck over and can’t finish.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn’t exactly call him a grinder

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

This season, in this context, you may as well call him a grinder, he’s not the kind of guy who is going to help Kadri’s play.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, probably should have said ‘bottom six forward’ or ‘less than gifted offensive performer’

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah exactly, the word “grinder” isn’t exactly right but I get what you meant. An EA Sports “grinder”.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

They have two-way forwards now, which I guess is a catch-all for players who aren’t that good at anything in particular

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

They had those last year as well, but I think they use it more for players who are legitimately good at playing both ways, like Mike Richards.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I just noticed when I put the Leafs on that half the team were two-way forwards or two-way defensemen. So either everybody’s really good at everything, or they just spread the suck around really evenly

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by T is for Truculence on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

How about a hoagie, then?

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

So he’s New Stalberg

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Which is something I think probably comes from experience and who he plays with.

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Right. He also needs to be held accountable for his play, which is what happened Tuesday. Hopefully he learns

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

What gives me hope is that the Leafs are where there are without playing out of their minds or anything. The Sens are where they are because they are setting franchise records for road wins and what not, the Wild are clinging to the playoffs based on some unsustainable play.
While they will need to play out of their minds at some point it seems as though the team is playing at it’s true talent level, which is encouraging.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Devil advocate: Leafs played out of their minds the first month

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

And out of their minds sure, but not “breaking franchise records” out of their minds.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if someone compared today’s Sens with Coldorado a couple years back and see if they are similar.

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by Redonred on Jan 20, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Steroids.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

IIRC the Sens’ Fenwick numbers this year are much better than Colorado’s were.

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

They aren’t similar at all.

The Leafs are more similar to Colorado from a few years back than the Sens are.

by samspade on Jan 20, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that Colorado team was defined in large part by incredible goaltending, which is something this Leafs team could really use.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Ross on twitter yo

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

This could go terribly well or just terribly

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by Redonred on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

She’s obviously a radical boss.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like what Michael Scott would choose for his Twitter handle.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sitting in the office

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Just curious, would anybody trade for Heatly now?

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

I’d trade a bad contract for him.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather have him than Jason Blake, who is apparently available…

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

1st Line Centre Ville Leino?

Sure.

by samspade on Jan 20, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Only to troll the sens (but no, not actually).

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Question:

Anyone know if there’s a site that tracks video reviews won and lost by team? Had a friend last night suggest that the Leafs somehow had an advantage because the booth is in Toronto.

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

No, but common sense would dictate that is factually untrue.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

It feels anecdotally wrong, for sure. But I admit I have a bias too and am way more likely to remember the ones that don’t go our way

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would the city in which the war room is located affect the decisions they make? Bettman should have put it on the moon, like a reasonable person.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I’m with you. He just thought Grabovski’s goal last night shouldn’t have counted and then pulled a pout over it (in my opinion). I just want to be able to back it up with stats rather than giving him the opportunity to go into all of the ‘NHLs biggest market’ crap that I’m constantly subjected to

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Back it up by the fact that, because there was no kicking motion, the goal counted.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

He thought a legal goal shouldnt have counted.
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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

His opinion was, obviously, that there was a kicking motion. I didn’t think so but there was one angle I saw where an argument could have been made.

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You have to propel the puck into the net with your foot, so basically unless it’s stationary and you kick it it’s going to be a good goal.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

there was no argument to be made, he was gliding forward and his skate never changed speeds

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ray Ferraro didn’t think it would count either, if you recall

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

But Gord Millen did.
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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I think it was a good goal, like I said. I’m just saying that someone thinking it wasn’t isn’t way off base as you’re apparently suggesting it is. It’s not like taking umbrage with the Crabb goal

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

People first need to understand there’s a distinct difference between “kicking motion” and skate turning because said person is stopping (as was the case with Grabbo last night).

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a goal: the player who scored wound up and soccer punted the puck into the net.

Good goal: pretty much anything else.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Grabbo directed it in on purpose, but it wasn’t a “distinct kicking motion”, as you say.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Deflections are totally OK.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s bring out that one dude from that one movie who can read minds:

“Grabbo, did you mean to kick that puck in or were you just attempting to stop?”

Grabbo responds: “Will you be able to tell if I’m lying? No? Well then…”

by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

WE HAVEN’T MADE THE PLAYOFFS IN MORE THAN HALF A DECADE

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Your friend is an idiot. Sure Grabbo got that goal call yesterday, but it was the right call.

The other night the Senators got a goal against Toronto while Spezza was using Reimer as a couch.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

That isn’t reviewable tho

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I know that. Point being, the get their reviews both for and against them just like everybody else.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

right. The war room may be in Toronto, however it is employed by nhl employees.
People be dumb yo

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Joffrey Lupul

We always talk about how he either (a) out of here this summer for the tea in China (all of it), or (b) gone after he is UFA anyway.

While this is probably the smart thing to do (and what I would do), I have this feeling that it may not be what will happen. Burke seems to like the guy (has traded for him a couple times (obviously he has also traded him away a couple times)), and he seems to be the kind of forward that Burke likes. I have this feeling that Burke isn’t as focussed on “above 28 and we probably shouldn’t resign” as we are.

My guess is that if Lupul isn’t moved this summer and has above 0.85 ppg and/or 0.40 GPG going into the next years allstar break he gets resigned.

Just so I make this clear, I would move him. I just have a bad feeling that Burke won’t.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah, this is exactly what’s going to happen.
He is one of “Burke’s guys” he’s not going anywhere unless he just stops scoring goals.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That is what scares me. We treat it like it is a guarantee that he won’t be here (we’ll have these opennings in the future), but I think Lupul is here to stay.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned on Twitter that a guy like Lupul is the best example of how our degree of separation influences our evaluations and thoughts about what the team “should” do.
Burke likes Lupul, he clearly plays well on this team, is good in the room, and all that stuff.
We just see the whole “never going to play this well again” and want to ship him out, which is justified, but there are reasons for keeping him around as well.
That being said the salary cap really complicates things. No cap, pay Lupul whatever it doesn’t matter.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean (the first part about the separation). I feel get a little overboard with it thinking that what we think the team should do is what will happen.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Burke wanted to build a core, it seems as though Lupul is going to be a part of that.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Lupul’s Twitter trolling is irreplaceable

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Although with Brad Ross on there now…

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by happiergilmore on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We should remember, too, that (most) GMs aren’t idiots and may also be thinking “never going to play this well again”. Even the dumb ones may be too busy getting fleeced by someone else.

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by Back In Black on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We also treat it like a guarentee that because he’s 28 he’s washed up

by Ben Schnell on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not a long term answer but he’ll be a very good player for 2 or 3 more years one assumed before his decline

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey as long as he puts up points at or about the amount of points that makes his contract look good, I don’t care how old he is.

It’s only if/when he’s become vastly overpaid that I have a problem

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d move him right now for a shutdown defender, something we need.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Lupul, but he has a huge market value right now and could garner a very big return.

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by MLS on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

That isn't what I am saying

I would too and so would basically everyone around here.

I am not discussing what I would do, but what I think will actually happen.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I see. In that case, I agree with you that he probably won’t be dealt. Burke seems to love him (I do too) and he works well with Kessel. I wonder if we can afford to resign him though, when the time comes.

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by MLS on Jan 20, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Like most things with the leafs, it all depends on if we’re sitting in a playoff spot or not when that years trade deadline rolls around.

If we are complete shit next year I’ll blow my brains out I’d bet he gets moved.

But maybe thats because I’m thinking like a logical person and not a three time champion barn fighter.

by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 20, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact that no Leaf forwards have a contract past 2014, and only Kessel and Brown’s go past 2013, mean that there’s a lot of options for what direction the forwards go in.

Keeping Lupul as a complimentary guy isn’t necessarily a bad thing, provided the term and money are appropriate.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Summer of 2013 is going to be epic.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

SIDNEY

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

My hope is that if the Leafs are doing well this year/next year, that he would be willing to take a bit of a discount mostly due to the fact that burke gave him a chance when Ana didn’t etc etc.

by edliuen on Jan 21, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

So in all the furor over Schenn trade rumors, I was unaware that he had (according to capgeek) a modified NTC. Anyone know about this, or what the modifications are?

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NOne until the last year of his contract

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It can’t be active until he is 25 so it is more or less irrelevant now.

(At least that is how Carter’s, M Richards, and Kessel’s deals all worked).

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

You can’t have a NTC until you’re eligible for free agency. 25 years old if you start in the league at 18, etc.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Goes into effect for his last year. He has no NTC for the first 3 because he’s not eligible for one.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks all.

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by The Bag on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So he isn't the "big" forward we want at all

Being 5’10" and all, but apparently Derek Roy is available who, like Connolly, never seemed to get the love he deserved in Buffalo. Does he make any sense for this team? He comes in at a pretty damn reasonable 4 million, is having a bad season, but is only locked in for one more year.

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I’m hoping they’re smart enough to not trade him.

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I dont know if I like having a diver like him on the Leafs.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

title

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Careful. That could get you banned on some blogs.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

But welcomed at Bryzgalov’s house during the Winter Classic.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he make any sense for this team?

Not even a little bit.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really think so either but I was just bringing it up because when a guy of his talent level comes up you need to at least think about it.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I want no part of smallish guy who isnt a 1st liner and is 28

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He is a first liner coming off a devastating leg injury, so I’d consider him pretty risky.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Devastating leg injury

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There’s no getting up from that…

by Papa Squid on Jan 20, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ass in da face

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by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The old flying teabag. poor bastard..

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by Nifty Mittens on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He is definitely a first liner. He is having a bad year this year, but over his last 4 years:

08 32/81
09 28/70
10 26/69
11 10/35 (in 35 GP)

That is a first liner.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

elaborating, Isn’t a 1st line up grade over what the Leafs currently have relative to his age and injury history
he is a smaller Tim Connolly

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahh

In that case I agree with you. Again I don’t think he is a useful piece for this team, I was just wondering if anyone else did because he is quite talented.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If we can’t keep Grabbo for whatever reason I think we would do well to get him. In fact I would probably trade them for each other straight up because Roy will be cheaper next year and has a higher upside. Although losing Grabo would hurt Roy is a damn fine player

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

If we get rid of Grabbo it’s either to make room for Colborne or someone like Jeff Carter acquired via trade.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Colborne he’s like five points under point per game now.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

bust

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 20, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I noticed that about a week ago. I remember telling Burtch to calm down with how he was 2 points per game through like 12 games. I am not happy being right :(

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

teams are adjusting to him, and now he needs to learn to adjust back.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Is he stuck playing the the AHL equivalent of Kessel being stuck with Crabb last season, or is he really just slowing down?

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He should be playing with Frattin and Mueller so he should have good linemates. Although I don’t know the actual lines, but its either one or both of those 2 or like D’Amigo

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically, Crabb was part of the key to Colborne’s success. They were lighting it up while together. The last game I saw was against the Barons and he was skating with Mueller and Deschamp

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy we got in the Caputi deal from Anaheim

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

right forgot we did that… how is he?

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Small sample size but ‘not great’ would be my one game answer. Didn’t take a shot and took a bad penalty. He’s kinda slow. About what you’d expect to get in a trade for Caputi

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So Poni for Deschamp (via caputi) + 2010 draft pick (sam carrick now in OHL).

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

so in the end taking the 2nd and 4th from nashville (assumed) would’ve worked out better… most likely

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Says who?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Who did Nashville take with those picks?

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nashville Predators’ second-round pick went to the Edmonton Oilers as the result of a trade on March 1, 2010 that sent Denis Grebeshkov to Nashville in exchange for this pick

Edmonton selected Curtis Hamilton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Hamilton_(ice_hockey)

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The picks ended up elsewhere and it was Curtis Hamilton and Bill Arnold

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Would Burke have made those same picks? We dont know.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

haha obviously we don’t know and both of those 2 could be busts as well… I was being semi-facetious because either way it was kinda a wash deal on all accounts

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough to hate the deal at the time. Caputi was ppg in the AHL and further along in his development. In hindsight, yeah, should have taken the picks but at the time I think they made the right move.

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by Curt S on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Prospects and picks are both always gambles. Sometimes they don’t pan out, even if they look really good. Caputi has had injury problems and he’s never put it all together. C’est la vie.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How would Poni look on Kessel’s line? Big player to stand in front of net, terrible hands, no truculence and decent defensively. I’d venture better then lombardi and worse then lupul.

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He’d look old and slow.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I firmly believe there’s a reason that the only team Poni ever looked decent on was the post-Lockout Leafs

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 20, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I continue to stand by my point that he (and Antropov) didn’t look all that good back then anyway. By comparrison to what else we had maybe, but they still were terrible excuses for first line players

by SlickWill on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, well it’s because they were the antithesis of exciting players. It was like they scored goals in spite of themselves.

by lucc on Jan 20, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Balancing the lines for offence, defence, speed and size will be difficult. There might be a player that fits one or two of those criteria but it is rare to find a unicorn that excels at all four.

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY IS THIS NOT GREEN

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

BECAUSE ITS BLUE.

What? You’d rather he was in Canucks Green?

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have the blue script installed?

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I used to but my computer got formatted

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If I could go back in time to any point and take one object back with me, I’d strongly consider grabbing 1996-1997 Mats Sundin and handing him over to Burke

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I think we played this game a while ago:
Wendel-Sundin-Kessel
Roberts-Dougie-Andreychuk
Berezin-Borschevsky-Mogliny
…and I don’t think we figured out a fourth line

by SlickWill on Jan 20, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Any fourth line starts with Peter Zezel

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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for Zezel love, Osborne should be on that line with Stumpy

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by Eterrible on Jan 20, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill Berg for PK madness. Or “the other Dave” McIllwain (sp?)

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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 20, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

IT looks like its only from 1990 and on so
Berg-Zezel-Tucker

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to assume Bill not Aki since fuck Aki Berg

by SlickWill on Jan 20, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and since Aki was a defenceman

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I need to start thinking for a few seconds before posting sometimes

by SlickWill on Jan 20, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

WHo should he replace?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

.

I dunno.

He could be water boy.

He was always good with a water bottle.

by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 20, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Needs more Steve Thomas.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Zezel with Stumpy and Tucker would be an all-world 4th line.

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by GreatKingRat on Jan 20, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Poni in his mid-20s would probably have worked well with a guy like Kessel. Poni now would contribute very little.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t need a mid-20s pony, we need a unicorn!

by Dr_Furious on Jan 20, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s the goal but if we can’t get him locked up because hes going to be too expensive Roy is a very very good replacement

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Just as a follow up

Over those 4 seasons + this year he is 18th in points and 19th in goals for a C

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right I forgot that averaging 70pts a year the last 4 years is not first line quality… he was PPG last year when he got hurt..

If he’s available at a reasonable price we have to try for him. At the very least he’d be one of the best 2nd line centres in the league.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, lets waste assets on another 2nd line center that doesn’t fit the way the team is being built
the Leafs need 3 things right now, an elite minuite munching 2 way shut down defender type, a power forward who can score about 70 points and is young enough to stay at that level for 4-5 years and consistent league average goaltending

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Except he’s not a 2nd line centre. Roy is better than any of our centres, and the assets we give up would be lessened by what we get back in return for whichever centre gets moved out to make room.

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

a power forward who can score about 70 points and is young enough to stay at that level for 4-5 years

This is such a rare thing. We likely won’t be able to get one guy who can do both via trade.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Ryan is the only one available

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Here are the guys 24 or younger who had 70+ points

Link

Toews, Stamkos, Ryan, Kopitar, Kane, Giroux

Only Ryan may be available.

That is it. If we lower it to 60 points (assuming they are improving so can maybe reach 70 points) it jumps from 6 to 14 names. The new names?

Tavares, Skinner, Lucic, Krejci, Kessel, Duchene, Crosby, Backstrom.

No one on that list is available.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And only a handful of them are power forwards anyway

If we really want that power forward we are going to have to go with a guy with a much lower offensive game. I hope I am wrong, but that is how it appears to me.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i’d say lower it to 50 points if the guy is truly elite defensively (thus including guys like Bergeron and Kesler).

by samspade on Jan 20, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Also it greatly bothers me

But Turris has 4 goals, 13 points, is a plus 13 in 16 GP in Ottawa. I really hope this doesn’t last.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Somebody wants more money.

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

probably the unbridled joy of finally being out of Phoenix, he’ll slow down when he realizes that Ottawa is worse

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s boring AND cold

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

For all the talk about how Ottawa’s underlying numbers are good they’ve picked up four points this week in games they’ve been dominated in.

Shots were 24-11 for San Jose in the 2nd period when Ottawa made it 2-1. That’s a 31.4% corsi . In the Leafs game the shots were like 30-11 when it was 2-2. That’s a 26.9.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The bottom left of this chart is the bane of advanced statistics.

/shakefist

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by Ubiquitous on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The other 70% of the game not explained by advanced stats.

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said the other day, we can question Anderson’s consistency, but when he is on his game he is a damn good goalie.

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by BCapp on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The 2010 Montreal Canadiens Playoff Strategy. What could possibly go wrong?

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew that Anderson would keep them from being terrible. But this was unexpected. That being said they have three games in hand over almost everyone. Give the Leafs three wins in those games and they’d be 1 point back of the Sens.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

We are nine ahead of you, so it would be three.

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by Adnan on Jan 20, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, didn’t count last night. But the point remains.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I got some furious comments on Twitter the other day when I said Toronto played a good game against Ottawa and the Senators just got lucky.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeeeup.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope what happens is they just fall apart after the All-Star break. Everyone will be nattering on about how amazing they are and then boom, unisex hair salon time.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It drove me nuts to hear about last night’s “impressive victory” on the 2am Sportsdesk… they stole 2 points. But, they don’t ask how, they ask how many.

by Papa Squid on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting outshot more than 2 to 1 when the score is close probably isn’t a good way to win hockey games.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

All part of Paul MacLean’s genius defensive strategy.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Scruffy believes in unsustainable percentages

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by clrkaitken on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It is a better outcome then outshooting the other team and losing

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Measuring outcomes is stupid. If we bet money on who rolls a higher number on some dice I’m not a genius because I rolled a six.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I was okay with Wilson saying the only game he was mad about in the three game skid was the Rangers game. If the Leafs played the same against Buff and Ottawa more often than not they win those games.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ye

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah!

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Y

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

No

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by leafer1984 on Jan 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Si

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

...

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

...

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

YIP’D

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yip’d a lot

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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

.

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by Frag on Jan 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this pictured was used exclusively for when Kuli displayed feats of awesomeness like the hit on Kaleta?

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by Eterrible on Jan 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this pictured was used exclusively for when Kuli displayed feats of awesomeness

So, all the time then?

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by Frag on Jan 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 20, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the linkage dudes

you rule!

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by Mislav Xterratu Jantoljak on Jan 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

You got that right!

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Lebda is a decent pick-up. I always thought he had potential when he was with Detroit. – Heavysoviet

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

Another Paycheque

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Lebda is known for being very responsible in his defensive end. He was able to rack up some assists when playing for a very offensively talented Red Wings team.

Lebda will bring depth to the Blue Jackets defense. He will also bring leadership to a young team. He will take Radek Martinek’s spot as the Blue Jacket’s announced his season is over

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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He will also bring leadership to a young team.

He will bring the leadership required to reamain atop the draft sweepstakes for a young Nail Yakupov

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by Eterrible on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They Spelled his name wrong

it’s L -3 bda

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Blue Jackets fans…

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by Chris Stoikoff on Jan 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLWUT?

sidenote: I really really want to go see an Adler Mannheim game.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

They’re my new favourite DEL team.

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by thenumber14 on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been to Mannheim. Nice town.

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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 20, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That looks so wrong in so many ways.

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by Frag on Jan 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s gold Jerry. GOLD!!!

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by Ghostsof on Jan 20, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

amazing!

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by Likely on Jan 20, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome.

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Is anyone else reading the comments by the troll in the recent NNN? I’m calling it’s a parody done by someone from this site, it’s way to cliche to be real.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

Here

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yah no way that’s an actual Canucklehead… either a PPP’er or a friend of the site

by WizardofNaz on Jan 20, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone remember what was the twitter account retweeting stupid brian burke questions?

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

there are a couple

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 20, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

@AskBrianBurke

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by Chemmy on Jan 20, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Beauchimen signs extension with ducks and for less. So do leafs have to pay on the high side to get dman to play in Toronto or do the leafs just like overpaying.

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Beauchemin is older now than he was when the Leafs signed him. I think that’s a contract that makes good sense for both sides.

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by Draglikepull on Jan 20, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This, he’s older now. Maybe the deal has an NTC or something also.

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by Shield on Jan 20, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Habs fans made that? slow clap

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by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Habs/Pens, you’ve got a good result either way. Penguins win means fuck the Habs. Penguins loss keeps them where they are in the standings. ;)

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by LeafBoy on Jan 20, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think just last night. Could be wrong.

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is his second game back.

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by Bower Power on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I want the Habs to win so then they wont be more motivated against the Leafs on saturday.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I want the Habs to lose because fuck the Habs.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m pulling for meteor, as always.

The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 20, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I forgo “fuck the Habs” if it includes a situation that will benefit the Leafs and not really benefit the Habs like this scenario.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fair enough, but if they lose both games this weekend they’re basically done for the year.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Also beneficial that its a b2b for us

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Habs win then Cunneyworth will be convinced that Budaj is the number 1 goalie, so let go Habs!

In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case

by PKSube on Jan 20, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Caps vs Canes doesnt matter because the Canes are in the basement and we’ll never catch the caps because of division leader rules.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

GO HABS GO!
GO CANES GO!
GO HAWKS GO!
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT DALLAS vs TAMPA!

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Flagged for “Go Habs Go”

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

QUIET YOUR FACE

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’LL QUIET YOUR MUM’S FACE

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Random fact: Toronto’s now the only team in the League that has a positive differential and is not in a playoff position.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully Florida loses tonight and the Leafs win tm which will rectify this statistic.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 20, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Florida beating Chicago is about as unlikely as Ottawa beating San Jose…oh crap

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Good news on score watching so far!

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Carlolina shut out Assington 3-0, and Ovechkin was a -1 for allowing a SHG.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Pitt tied it up so that one is probably going to OT

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Toews makes it 1-0 Chicago over Florida though

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Sons a bitches

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitt wins in OT…Habs blew a 2 goals lead in the third…jerks

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats 5 wins in a row for Pitt

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Habs using Gomez in the shootout. Like, really. (As expected, he didn’t score.) Fuck the Habs.

1/1/11: Saw the beginning of the Optimus Reim era. And it was glorious!!!1
Oh...and Phil Kessel says YAAAAAAYYYY!!!1

by LeafBoy on Jan 20, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s had Flanders for awhile now.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t it something about left-handed people solidarity?

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Or idiot solidarity.

I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.

by not norm ullman on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Poni to New Jersey…didn’t expect that

by TheDeek on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

nj has too many wingers now

by jeffgm on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly preparing for life after Parise.

by MrSmithy on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And Montreal managed to screw up and still get a point

by munniec on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

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