Two Points
Well, it sure feels good to be back in the 'Win' column. That it also brings the Leafs back to a tie for eighth place in the Eastern Conference doesn't hurt either, but there remains a lot of work to be done, and the Leafs' win has folks looking to the remaining 34 games rather than enjoying the moment.
For Michael Langlois, the most pressing concern is the Leafs' game tonight, where they finish off a back-to-back series with the Islanders:
The thing I really wanted to focus on today is what comes next for the Leafs, as in the game Tuesday night on Long Island. You might recall that after the win over Minnesota last week, I mentioned that while the victory was nice and all (coming as it did against a floundering team), the key was what the Leafs did afterwards, over the subsequent games.
Leafs Links:
Lombardi's pair lift Leafs over Islanders as the Monster shuts door
James Mirtle's recap at the Globe.
Time has come for Maple Leafs to strike
Well, I pretty much disagree with all the main points here, but I wouldn't be upset if Burke managed to snag a big "C" for Phil Kessel, either. From Jeff Blair at the Globe.
Joffrey Lupul: A Timeline
Joffrey Lupul for Masterton? Joffrey Lupul for Masterton. From Jeffler.
Marlies Hot & Cold: January 16th-22nd
The latest from Kyle Cicerella.
Maple Leafs Panel: Kadri, Kessel + Lupul, & Playoffs?
Mark Ascione asks the questions to a few Hockey Writers.
Target for the Next Winter Classic: 104,174
Jeff Klein and Stu Hackel think the NHL is setting its sights on a record.
Other Hockey Links:
Adjusting for Zone Starts
David Johnson of Hockey Analysis uses a time-based correction.
Tim Thomas on Obama snub
Just in case you didn't hear about this yesterday... hoo boy. From Greg Wyshynski at PD.
Alex Ovechkin suspended 3 games for ‘launching’ himself into Pens’ Michalek
And now the big baby is (rumored to be) contemplating boycotting the All-Star game. From Sean Leahy at PD.
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What Does a Trio of All-Stars Signify for the Maple Leafs?
Having three of their players (Lupul, Kessel, Phaneuf) going to the All-Star Game does, in fact, signify something for the Maple Leafs.
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That’s why no Reimer!
/canopened
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
I’d still rather rest Gus and start Reimer tonight. And it’s not just that I’m worried about overworking a goalie and injuring him, esp given his heatlh problems.
No, it’s Wilson’s simplistic thinking that will lose us this season. A goalie won against Team X last night? Start him again.
Line combinations from last night worked against Team X? Do them again. Game plan worked last time? Do it again. Etc. Meanwhile the opposing coach is making adjustments and reviewing tapes and perfecting his strategy for the rematch.
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by Peter de Chatham on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
If there was a day inbetween I’d be fine with going back to Gus.
Back to back? If the Leafs lose there will be plenty of “oh he was playing a back to back, it’s okay” excuses.
Hmmm maybe they shouldn’t have played him back to back then!
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I just think…can’t remember who said it last night, but this is the perfect opportunity to give Reimer a start without hurting Gus’ confidence. Great game, shutout, have some rest.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
Ya that was ppl in the post-game last night.
I don’t see a huge amount of downside, unless their faith has been completely shaken in Reimer. And I don’t believe that to be the case.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
While I think Gus is fine and probably doesn’t “need” rest tonight (since he wasn’t very busy), I think an away game game against a weaker opponent would be a nice time to get Reimer a win.
Ron will likely ask gus if he wants to play tonight.
I feel the islanders will get a morale boost from seeing Reimer after being gussed.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Incorrect, year of the Reimer
In summing up, it's the Constitution, it's Mabo, it's justice, it's law, it's the vibe and... No, that's it, it's the vibe. I rest my case
Incorrect, Year of the Playoffs?!?!?
With a lot of work to do….
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Reimer........
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by LeafsLaughToo on Jan 24, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
john tavares
remember when it was his draft-year and they labeled it the ‘tavares lottery’ etc etc… having seen him play against the leafs several times now, and monitoring his stats… is it safe to say that he hasn’t quite lived up to the hype?
i’m not saying he’s a draft-bust by any means, and he’s not really playing along-side elite talent… but i really don’t feel like he’s become anything special (yet anyways).
To me it seems like every #1 pick has been overhyped since Crosby.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i think that’s a fair estimate… you had ovechkin… you and crosby… then evvvvery year you hear who the next guy is going to be. tavares though i remember especially for some reason… like ‘holy shit this guy is going to run circles around crosby! the leafs should definitely trade all of their prospects and 1st-round draft picks for the next dozen years for this guy!’ hmmmmmm…..
He is still pretty fucking good, and plenty of time to get even better.
He’s not Crosby, but not many players are.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
It would help if the Islanders dressed a remotely competitive lineup.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
they’re really terrible, i cant believe tavares would want to stay there. What a terribly run organization.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
That would require committing more than league minimum against the Cap.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how the NHL allows a team to be so poorly run, they must be hoping for new ownership now that NYI have until 2015 to find a new arena (or pony up cash to build one themselves).
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Technically they’re committing 7.5 million less than the cap thanks to Rick Dipietro and buyouts.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Patient Zero of being hurt … a lot of .. the time.
K, I got nothing.
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Would you say Stamkos is overhyped and/or hasn’t lived up to the expectations of having been a #1 Overall Pick?
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leading up to the draft yes. Tampa’s Seen Stamkos camping would fit into that description.
I should have said most, not every, but either way it’s a valid point. not every #1 pick is going to be a savior for the franchise that chooses him.
odds are they’ll be excellent players, but it just seems to me, that to fill airtime and pages, that the top picks are all made out to be the best players ever.
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Well said
I agree with you the marketing on behalf of the Lightning was certainly questionable, it took him more than a year to “explode” in the bigs.
Aside from that, I agree the other 1st overalls haven’t lived up to their draft positions. I’m still willing to give Hall until next season before I pass judgment on him.
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Also I think Kane until this year has been a star player as well. The only “disappointment” 1st overall pick since Ovie is Erik Johnson
Hall has been pretty damn good but has been injured quite a bit. I’d love to see what he could put up in a full season with RNH and Eberle.
It’s too bad for Oilers fans that everything other than that line is pretty bad lately, old man Smyth excluded.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
nope. ITS THERE FOREVER TO ALWAYS REMIND YOU OF YOUR FAILURE AND TO MAKE YOU FEEL SHAME FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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BOLD FAIL ON THE ALL-CAPS.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Or less if they score
/harryneale’d
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
If you keep replying to your own comment requesting it to be deleted it will be.
You have to do it like 5 or 6 times though.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
It’s best to say “Fuck Mirtle” too. I find that gets attention.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ha ha.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
There is none. Keep it up. You're on a roll.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
When people tuned in to watch the Crosby draft, TSN and the NHL realized they were onto something. The draft, trade deadline and free agency day have all become TV things because of TSN. I don’t remember any of those things getting remotely the same airtime before the lockout
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
same with the world juniors, to be honest. TSN turned it into a thing.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
a terrific thing that I’ll watch EVERY YEAR
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
stamkos is terrific…. no complaints there (except that we couldn’t land him on the leafs prior to his new contract). i don’t think tavares comes close to stamkos (at this point anyways). what say you 2-4-6-0-1?
I think Tavares might be as good point-wise as Stamkos eventually…. but that Stamkos shot… that’s just not something you can teach.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
If you didn’t get Daigle’d on your #1 pick, i think you made out alright.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
he’s a very good player. Comparable stats to Kessel. He just turned 21 4 months ago. Easily the best of that draft class. Matt Duchene is close though.
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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 24, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, as you mention he plays alongside a bunch of nobodies, more or less.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
Moulson’s not bad. Got 22 goals already. I’d take him on my team. And Okposo is underachieving, Kulemin-like. Tavares just has not shown the same ability to single-handedly dominate that Crosby or Stamkos has, so if there’s disappointment it would be relative to those expectations
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
It would take all the tea in China… all of it.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
The New York Islanders trade John Tavares to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for the entire funding of a new arena on Long Island, plus a 6th round draft pick in 2014.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Recall that Brian Burke really wanted to trade up for Tavares. He wasn’t able to do so and instead he later traded for Phil Kessel. Would you trade Kessel for Tavares?
I probably would. In Tavares’ first 2 seasons in the NHL he had 24 and 29 goals and this year he is on pace for 33. He had 54 points in his rookie season, 67 in year two and is on pace for 83 this season. Those numbers tell me his development curve is going just fine considering he isn’t working with much on the Islanders. Kessel will pass 67 points this season for the first time in his career, his 6th season in the NHL.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
I would trade Kessel for Tavares straight up. Islanders wouldn’t.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
is it safe to say that he hasn’t quite lived up to the hype?
Come again?
54pts (20g) as a rookie (should have won Calder)
67pts (29g) as a sophomore
48pts in 47 games (19g) on pace for 84 points (33g) in his third season. That would’ve been 8th best in the entire NHL last season. 8th! And all while a member of one of the worst teams in the NHL and surrounded by slubs. Tavares is elite, crazily so. He’s easily a 100pt player on a bubble team.
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but the stats man, the stats
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Clearly his zone starts and yadda yadda yadda make it clear that Vlasic is a Top 25 player under 25 and that John Tavares is not.
Stats should back up what you see with your eyes, not through your whole worldview upside down and confuse the piss out of you.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
If I was in Connecticut I would buy you a beer for this comment. I wish I could rec it 100 times
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throw* mother fucker. Need to finish the coffee before I post anymore.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Either that, or more corn liquor.
Ma! Whar’s that jug? Imma postin’.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
54pts (20g) as a rookie (should have won Calder)
What, so defensemen should never win the Calder ever?
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
I still say Tavares was the better player that season. Myers had a great year but not the best amongst rookies.
Rask actually is the one who I think should’ve won…
He’s been the best player from his draft year and he’s on pace for 85 points in just his third year. That’s pretty impressive. He’s also a better scorer at this age than Kessel, Toews, and others were.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Tavares
IMHO I think that Moulson is more advanced than JT right now. If I was Wilson I would put my best players on Moulson and JT.
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Moulson better than Tavares? Moulson is the perfect candidate for a WOWY study. Middling player who was so-so in the AHL. Plays with John Tavares and all of a sudden he starts potting 30 goals.
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Wow-Wee that sounds like an interesting study.
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i like pronouncing acronyms.
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Bah, anyone who wrote Zooropa can’t be bad.
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Achtung Baby is a frigging masterpiece.
Apologies for what they became later.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I like U2 up to and including Achtung Baby. Not wild about what they’ve done since.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yeah, people who don’t like that album have an agenda. Which is why I always bring up Zooropa.
In honesty, they never should have written Pop. Their career was pretty damn respectable up until then.
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Can’t fault a band for trying new things, which ironically is the problem most people have with Nickelback
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
That they don’t try new things /clarification
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Or defecation.
They seem to be overflowing.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When they first landed, they were the bomb. New Year’s Day was brilliant, as was Joshua Tree.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
(From Wikipedia)
U2 have released 12 studio albums and are among the best-selling music artists, having sold more than 150 million records worldwide. They have won 22 Grammy Awards, more than any other band.
Yup, sounds to me like a terrible band that no one likes.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
They’re like Nickelback, tens of millions of records sold but you can’t find anyone who’ll admit they own one.
I own multiple U2 albums and the first Nickelback album.
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I was young.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Also, I have no problem admitting things like that
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WHO FUCKING CARES WHAT ALBUMS PEOPLE OWN?
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You’re new to the internet, right?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think I own three U2 albums, all from the 1980s, and I’ll gladly defend their quality.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I bought the best of 80’s-90’s and 90’s-00’s.
They have so many great great songs
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I own one. Joshua Tree is a really good album. They have a few other good ones in the 80s too, but I wouldnt pay to see them or anything. Not a fan, just like some of their music a bit.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I own their greatest hits album, and that’s it. I went through a phase a few years ago where I listened to them pretty regularly. Not so much anymore.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really a greatest hits kind of guy. If a band cant make one very good album, they’re worthless to me.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I went through a stage where I bought a bunch of greatest hits albums… Pearl Jam and the Matthew Good Band are the ones that stand out to me. Just as a way to get a sample of music from bands I might be interested in. I now own every Matthew Good Band and Matthew Good solo album and five Pearl Jam albums… I never bought a U2 album.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
MGB put out great albums – Beautiful Midnight and Audio of Being are excellent.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of people don’t like Audio of Being, and I recall Matt in an interview saying that MGB stuck together for one too many albums and he regretted recording Audio. Personally it’s one of my favourites.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
He said it was “the sound of a band imploding” or something to that effect. It definitely sounds like it, but all that terrible mess just ended up fueling creativity. I don’t think he hates it, he’s been covering songs from it live for a long time.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I saw him at Bayfest when I was in high school, before I really liked MGB. “Carmelina” was the only song I could name… that would’ve been right after MGB broke up and he was touring solo. I really wish I could go back and rewitness that concert, I’d appreciate it infinitely more now (and try to get my drawing of him signed!)
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I saw him at a free show in Ottawa – about 100 people only. Fuckign amazing. Turns out he was hopped up on pills the whole time though.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I saw him a few days after WLRRR came out, and it was kind of disappointing because almost the entire set was songs from the two solo albums and there were very few MGB songs in the set.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I became a huge MGB fan first and then discovered most of his solo stuff, and it definitely took me a bit of time to warm up to. A bit like with Gord Downie. OH! That’s the other greatest hits CD I bought- Tragically Hip- Yer Favourites.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve also got a signed vinyl copy of Avalanche.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I own 9 Matthew Good (Band) records, if you include EPs and singles.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhhh you’ve got me there. I don’t own any of the singles.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I really wish Raygun was longer, every song is phenomenal.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
DMB rules. I saw the Caravan this summer in NYC.
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I always confuse the two.
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About the same time as Matt Good and Dave Matthews there was also Matthew Sweet. what a confusing time.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
There is also a “Matt Good” from some crappy emo band.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
crappy emo band? does not parse.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, someone call the redundancy police!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
but oh man. it was fun to be engulfed by crappy emo in the late 90s early 2000s. there wasn’t much good music to be had, so it might as well be bad and whiny.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Matthew Good = Genius
Matthew Sweet = Most Excellent Songwriter.
Dave Matthews = Douchenozzle
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Matthew Mcconaughey = stubby little T-Rex arms
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Cody Hodgson too
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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Matthew Good might be a genius, but he’s also a douchenozzle.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Matthew Sweet, that one tremendous incredible album.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Only one of the best Canadian musicians around.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been mad hooked on Trombone Shorty since you mentioned them to me. Got both albums. Fantastic.
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It’s nuts. There are some great youtube playlists of him live – and I hate youtube playlists.
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I think the only album I find disappointing is White Light Rock and Roll Review. Not that it’s bad, but Avalanche was so much better. The new is one is decent as well.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
went to my cottage with my buddies about 7 years ago. In the middle of the night they came into my room with the CD player and cranked Alert Status Red at full blast to wake me up. I was so drunk I turned it off thinking it was an alarm clock. The next morning, I was like, did you guys hear alert status red in the middle of the night?
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You could apply the same logic to Nickleback. I personally don’t have a problem with their music and really don’t understand all the hate
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To you and lucc:
I’m not saying that record sales are a great indicator of musical talent, my point was more addressed to the “very few people like them” comment, as record sales seem to be a pretty good indicator of how many people do like them.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, look I’m not one of the Nickelback/U2 haters. I don’t like their music but I can see why a lot of people do. I mean U2 used to be a decent band IMO but nowadays they’re just hanging around still. And Nickelback makes good simple heavy-ish rock music, but it’s generic to a fault. Somehow the act of actively hating on these bands became a sort of non-internet-generated meme, people just do it because everyone else does it.
Macarena and Who Let the Dogs out were both #1 singles. Popularity is not a gauge of quality
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
See above.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
“One” is a brilliant song
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The rest of And Justice For All is pretty good too.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you did there
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Haha I immediately thought of Metallica too… which other “One” song is there?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
One by U2….
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D’oh! U2, extreme brain fart.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
WOWY
With
Or
Without
You
Thats an interesting study. Back in the day Darryl Sittler was paired with Lanny McDonald and people might have argued at that time that the pairing of him with Sittler was as you called it the WOWY affect but Lanny Went on to show that he was as good a player.
I think sometimes these pairings bring out the “hidden talent” that a player has ~ For Instance ~ Eric Lindros with John LeClair
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That kind of study would be better used on Errol Thompson who was the other mainstay on that line. He scored 40 the year he played with Sittler and McDonald. The following season he was moved around more and topped-out at 20-something.
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by JeanValjean on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Very Cool Facts there Jean Valjean. Maybe you or Skinnyfish could do a Fanpost about the WOWY factor.
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Yeah, Moulson can finish – he can score if he’s right out in front or whatever, but he needs someonebetter than him on his line to do so (e.g. Tavares)
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Moulson is also 28.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
the grass is mostly brown right now.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Core players
I wrote about the the guys I think should be part of the core moving forward
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
I like how you’ve separated the keepers from the bait and while I mostly agree with the bait, I think Lombardi has proven he’s a capable bottom 6 forward who probably can excel on the PK under “other” circumstances.
Still, I do believe Bozak and Liles/Franson should be moved.
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I disagree with some of your core players, but not a bad reasoning for the list.
Kulemin is an interesting case… RW is defending his poor offensive play by praising his defensive play (like many here)… I spoke a while ago that I think his “superior” defensive play has been a bit overrated for a while (since it used to be great and has since fallen to “not a liability”). His boardwork continues to be fantastic however.
My question is – does that parlay into a big raise for Kulemin? Drew Stafford got a pretty substantial payday when he had his 17.3% shooting breakout season, and that contract is looking pretty bad right now. What if Kulemin’s agent is looking for something similar? I have faith in Burke’s RFA negotiation skills, but I worry that Leafs will end up paying 3.5 – 4M over 5 years for a defensive forward, who may or may not be a 3rd line guy depending on how RW feels like blending the lines.
I guess my point is…. I’m not sure I include either Grabovski (may be trade bait… I hope not) or Kulemin in the Leafs “core”.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
they Kulie is playing this year, there’s no way he gets 3.5 million.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
I might be undervaluing Kulemin, but if we’re going to resign him, I’d be happy with him around the $2M range.
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Qual offer is 2.35M. He’ll get more than that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
It’ll still be a raise on 2.35M… How much more than that we have to trust in Burke.
Is 3M an okay number for a defensive forward? If we call him a 15G 45P guy who is great along the boards… is that $3M?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
2.5-2.75 seems about right. Maybe 3, but only if they’re willing to bank on this just being a bad season he is unlikely to repeat.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, I think Kuli and Grabbo have to be dropped to the “like to keep” as this team doesn’t NEED them moving forward and if needed to facilitate a good trade it’d be okay.
Also I would like to keep Franson. He’s young, cheap, big and shown to be a solid bottom pairing guy with reasonable 2nd pairing upside.
Also I would like to keep Franson. He’s young, cheap, big and shown to be a solid bottom pairing guy with reasonable 2nd pairing upside.
Me too – but this also exactly why he’d be valuable in a trade, if it came to that.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
These good young players shouldnt be moved for anything but a unicorn. I know I say it often, but I don’t want any more third liners, no matter how big and fast, if it means giving up young talented assets.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly, which is why I would move him to the “like to keep” not the trade bait section. In my mind the like to keep are the players who you’d keep 9/10 times but would add to make the trade the tenth time.
actually let me change the meaning
That 9/10 thing is the untouchables as even Kessel and Dion could be moved if say Nashville offered Weber for Dion and a 1st (never happen but still).
The would like to keep are the players you try to keep out of deals until there is no other choice. For instance if someone was trying to get Gardiner, we’d counter with Blacker+.
The trade bait are the people you are actively offering in deals right now
For me, there are only 2 core guys right now. Kessel and Phaneuf. For better or for worse, those are the two guys Burke has brought in to build the team around. Everyone else, for the time being, are parts in the puzzle, not the table the puzzle sits on.
One great year is not enough to move Lupul into that core but if he is duplicating this season next year then this time next year you sign him to a 4 or 5 year contract extension and make him part of the core.
For everyone else, they are still auditioning for core parts. As of yet, none have proven themselves to be core players or irreplaceable parts.
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by HockeyAnalysis on Jan 24, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I actually think that this year may be a good year to trade Lupul, since he’ll most likely be past his prime by the time we’re ready to compete for the Cup.
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Yeah I just don’t see Burke doing that at all….0% chance, even if it might be the right move. he brought him in to be a “playoff performer” and selling him now would be a message that we don’t want to get into the playoffs this year. Just aint happening, since Wilson’s job is on the line.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t either, I’d just like it to be done. Perhaps another good season for Lupul will really increase his trade value to teams buying at next year’s deadline
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No one would offer what Lupul’s value is to the Leafs right now, most discussions would be non-starters.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Lupul would be a last resort to get a deal done for a big name like Rick Nash. Although no matter what I don’t think Burke would send him back to Anaheim that would be too mean
Plus Pronger is injured so he’s not going anywhere.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
His career is probably done, barring some miracle.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Philadelphia Flyers – insanely talented players, horrific cap management.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Which kind of sucks for the Leafs who have done the “spirit and not the letter of the CBA” thing since Burke arrived
Question is – does Kovalchuk see the open market again? Lecavelier?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
No way either of those teams can afford to buy out those players. New Jersey is broke as shit and Tampa Bay is barely treading water.
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Maybe Ehrhoff… who else has a stupid-long contract
Brad Richards?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Can’t wait to play “who gets hit”. Luongo, Kovalchuk, Bryzgalov, Redden, DiPietro…so many fun candidates!
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Wouldn’t Isles WANT the buyout cap hit though so they can stay above the minimum artificially?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
With the buyout they’d almost be able to just pay Tavares and their AHL team and say they were above the minimum
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Its more than they’re currently paying him because there’s no way his contract is insured.
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by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Hilarious cap-manipulation tactic – all shitty contracts are traded to the Leafs (w/ sweetners) who immediately buy them out without a cap hit penalty.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
So the Leafs would essentially be doing a Lombardi deal several times (i.e getting a player that we actually want in return for taking on a horrible contract)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Or similar to when we acquired all those injured players at the trade deadline for a 4th round pick a few years ago.
KOLZIG
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
he was almost as legendary for us as Martin Skoula.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Not that the Leafs got away with that, since they were forced to forfeit that pack as punishment for irregularities involved in the Jonas Frogren signing.
I strongly suspect Burke knew about the penalty before he acquired the pick.
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I think that was a Fletcher manevour
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The Frogren signing was Fletcher, but the Tampa trade was Burke. The league penalized the Leafs on April 1, about a month after the trade deadline deal that netted the Leafs that fourth rounder.
He also said at the time that the reason for the trade “Would be made clear later”
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Well, maybe they gave him a heads-up before the official announcement. But as I recall, the punishment seemed to come from out of the blue, six months after the Frogren thing seemed to be settled. It all seemed a little too coincidental.
That 4th rounder could have been the next Reimer… or the next Frattin!
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
It would make for a hell of a FA season.
I didn’t play close enough attention last time there was a buyout amnesty situation
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
yeah to be fair there coudl be a good value pickup from one of those guys that gets bought out
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
punishing teams that managed their cap and contracts well, like us. Guess we could get rid of Komi if we wanted, but I doubt Burke does any such thing for a guy he signed.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I know Lambo has been hot lately but if we’re getting out of contracts for “Free”?
Goodbye Armstrong, Komisarek, Lombardi.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
doubt Armstrong goes, 3 million is overpay but not by that mcuh, and we can easily absorb him on LTIR if he’s injured again. I also doubt its any contracts you want – I’d say the limit would have to be no more than 2. The NHLPA will probably fight it anwyays.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Buying out Lombardi, Komisarek, Armstrong frees up $11M in cap space.
I’d absolutely buy those contracts out.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’d buy out Komi and probably Lombardi, Army I leave. As Skinny said, he has one year left, and besides as I mentioned he’s only overpaid by a bit. He’s good when healthy.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
yep and if he’s hurt hes on LTIR and we can replace his cap hit.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
$11M.
Lombardi also only has 1 more year.
With $11M in cap space, Leafs could actually submit competitive offers for Top tier free agents.
I dunno that seems worth it to buy out a few 3rd liners and a depth d
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
good luck replacing someone like Army for less than 1 year and 3 mil.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Sign me for league minimum, I could do the same job Army did this year
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after you literally die, do you go on the LTIR or the retired list?
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
You’re traded to the Sens.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
but Chelios never played for them and he was clearly dead
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
So Chelios was playing for free?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’m very okay with putting Crabb in his place (as a lesser version) for $700k.
Big picture. $11M.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Love Crabb-Shack.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Good thing he’s not feeling as Crabby as he did at the last practice.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Except that the buyout amnesty period would be around September and free agency starts July 1st. Teams can only exceed cap by what, 10-15% in the summer?
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Logistics might fuck it up – but wouldn’t other teams be doing something similar if they expected a buyout period?
Maybe FA’s wait when more teams can bid up their contract?
I honestly don’t know how it would work.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Free Agents want to get paid and if teams wanting buyouts want to wait, FAs will just sign with the teams that will sign checks in July.
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See, I'm not sure.
If I’m a player agent and I know VAN really wants to buy out of Luongo’s contract to create cap space for my client, I use that as leverage in negotiations with every other team.
Many agents might be willing to wait until the playing field opens up from a capspace perspective.
I’m just spitballing here… seems like an option. Interesting offseason coming up to say the least.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
And then you wait all summer for Vancouver to sign you, all the open spots fill up, and all of a sudden the season is starting and you don’t have a job.
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I get it. But the sheer magnitude of available space might be enticing. I used that as one example – that’s $5M opening up.
But if say, 15 teams were creating a similar amount of space? 15 x $5M = $75M more cap space supply in the market to work with.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
But think about it, if the CBA goes through without the amnesty or with a modified one then that player is screwed for waiting.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Or if the cap goes down.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Franson. That’s it.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Wow, Franson a core player? Interesting. That’s the first time I think i’ve heard that view.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
I think he means Gunnarson
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe he meant Luke Schenn.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a young offensive d-man? Hell I’d actually add Gunnarson as key player – moveable, but only at a high price given his RFA status and incredible play.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Carl Gunnarsson is a linchpin defenseman. He can play with anyone in any situation and be just fine. You don’t lose a guy like him because you simply can’t acquire a guy like him on the FA market.
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especially not an RFA at his cost. Apologies for using the word, but he is a clutch player. Made huge defensive plays last night to break up plays.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
More than clutch, I’ll just call him consistent. Regardless of situation, he plays well.
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Kadri not on your list, I’m kinda shocked
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Thats racist!
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ugh reminds me of the pre-season game I went to in Ottawa where a bunch of racist rednecks were yelling about Kadri all game until I told them to shut the fuck up.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
they mostly shut up after that, I was mostly ashamed all the sens fans around me just let him go on and on with his anti-Muslim crap.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
sens fans
Ah, this explains a lot.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Naw, Sens fans are usually pretty respectable bunch. This is a government town afterall. But after a period of them calling him out I just wouldnt put up with their shit.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Would it be racist if Kadri lets rip a clapper and Bowen says “and Kadri lets a bomb fly from the point”
What’s wrong about using the word bomb to describe the action of a Canadian?
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Whats wrong with you
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a lot of things, but it was actually a friend of mine who brought that up last week while we were watching a game. I personally think its nothing at all because that saying is used all the time, however he thinks some Muslim group who doesn’t follow hockey would make a big deal out of it, even though there is nothing wrong imo.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
a friend of mine
One of those lines you use when embarassed to admit it’s actually you?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Liar. You have no friends.
Come clean.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
The first five or so games after the ASG are so important they’ll really dictate the race to the finish. A home and home with pittsburgh, a game vs. Winnipeg and a game vs. Ottawa.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Ugh, let’s hope Kessel goes in full Beast-mode after the ASG like last year.
C’mon Chara, pick him last.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
Best case scenario → Leafs win all the games and may be in 4th/5th place 5 games after the ASG
Worst case Scenario → Leafs lose most of the games and are 5 or so points out of the playoffs in 10th place
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
It wouldn’t be Maple Leafs hockey is there wasn’t a fine line between playoffs and a waste of a fucking season
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Make all the game matter!
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If this season comes down to the last 3-4 games I might suffer a heart attack at the age of 27
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
I know it feels good to say we are tied for 8th but if the playoffs happened today we would be out :(
Ya, “tied for 8th” is all smoke and mirrors, need moar wins.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Go Buffalo! Yeah, going into the ASG week off with a couple wins wouild be nice. Then hopefully Kessel gets picked last, and becomes an even stronger god.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
It’s fun to laugh at Buffalo but if they get a Top 5 pick I’m going to be sad watching him destroy the Leafs for years to come.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Until he demands a trade.
Can it before I drive this truculence through your faceulence and put you in an ambulance.
by Brunswick Bruiser on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
why be traded when you can get a 10 million dollar bonus? Or a 4.5 million deal with a career high of 36 points?
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
tell me about it
i live in buffalo…. it’s been a great season for schadenfreude lol’z, but usually buffalo fans are annoying as F^&$. i hope they dig themselves out of draft-lotto position… sayyyyy 11th place or so.
I can’t believe Miller will stay this bad for the rest of the season. He can’t… right?
Right?
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
defense
myers is a huge guy, but young and inexperienced (despite his rookie of the year season)…. but the rest of the buffalo defence has been LAUGHABLE. maybe now that ehroff is coming back, things’ll turn around a bit? meh. imo miller’s been substandard since the olympics.
Lucic destroying his face also didn’t help.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Three head injuries in one year: NOT HELPING.
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I know it’s not exactly the same but Reimer just hasn’t been his crazy amish goalie self since Gionta hit either.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
It was really terrible when he was the only healthy member of the top 4. We were lobbying to play him 60 minutes a game because he could probably crawl around the ice faster than our 10th-string defensemen.
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Until they can’t build a team around him because Ehrhoff and Leino are signed forever.
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I really hope Ovie does boycott the ASG so the NHL can suspend him for more games. He hasn’t been great this season, but the more games he’s out, the worse off Washington is. And the worse of Washington is, all the better for the Leafs
fuck washington and the whole SE division, it’s totally ridiculous FL gets 3rd place but their points would put them at 7th.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck every team not named the Toronto Maple Leafs. May their player contract boneitis.
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
the question is, can we put Army onto their planes so they contract it?
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think Phil, Dion, and Lupul should smuggle Army into the ASG and rub him (using gloves and full quarantine procedures of course) on all of the other eastern conference players
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
It will murder by fantasy team but help the Leafs… I’m all for it.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Also, Here’s hoping Heatley gets put in as the next guy to go to the ASG, therefore making project mayhem a rousing success.
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All I’ve heard is that he’s definitely not going.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
HE’S A FUCKIN ALL-STAR
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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Was there ever a conclusion about whether players are paid per day during the season or per game?
I was doing reading for my international tax course and realized it makes a distinction based on U.S Source income ( a Canadian player would be taxed more for a road trip with a number of days off across the U.S than he would if he played 2 or 3 games during a 7 or 8 day road trip, based on my rough math)
but they are still getting paid by a canadian team into their canadian bank account. Are you telling me someone who has to travel to the states a couple of days a month because of work has to pay more taxes for those days?
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
It’s services performed in the U.S, and it’s not de minimis (less than $3,000). Plus with the amount of games any player has to play in the U.S (even for a Canadian team) they’re in the U.S for a significant number of days per year.
I haven’t read the U.S/Canada tax treaty yet, but otherwise yeah, they would be taxed for games played in the U.S
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
US players can pay US taxes only and forgoe canadian ones, I do believe. As a US citizen I have to file taxes in the US regardless of whether I pay them here. Another silly american law I guess.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
I’m mostly talking about the problems of Canadian players in the NHL. The U.S taxes income derived from services provided in the U.S. An NHL contract has been ruled in the past to be a service contract. So a Canadian player would be liable for taxes in the U.S for all games played in the U.S (but not for games played in Canada), unless the tax treaty (which I can’t find at the moment) says otherwise (which based on the case law I’ve read it doesn’t)
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure there is some sort of clause so they only pay taxes in their place of residence. At least Marek was talking about how Vinny doesn’t pay any income taxes by playing in Florida, but would pay 40% in quebec.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve done a professional hockey players’ Candian tax return.
The best way to illustrate what happens is that for tonight’s game, they will basically not pay 1/82 of their salary in Canadian tax, but will be subject to New York state tax.
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that sounds complicated, but then again, I rarely do my own taxes, so what do I know.
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I remember reading a story a few years back that basically every NHLer needed an accountant because they were filing taxes in like 10 states a year.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Should be 2 points in the Favor of the Maple Leafs over the Islanders tonight.
I predict a 4-2 Maple Leafs win.
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That’s not even a Gustavsson shutout. Way to aim low!
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Jan 24, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
But yeah Phaneuf gets one of those goals and I think Grabbo gets two.
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by Brunswick Bruiser on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
If you get 7 shutouts a year thats high
Just to put it in perspective. I love when people make predictions. Its 90% of the time their fav team winning by a shutout. LOL
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only if Tavares is single-handedly responsible for both goals.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
So a few thougths about last night:
The first period was, in my opinion, the best period Kadri has played all year. Smart with the puck, drove the net and played well in his own zone.
Komisarek had a strong game. Played a reliable, safe game.
Phaneuf/Schenn/Gunnar- Phenomenal. They were physical with Tavares all night and shut him down. Great job against him
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Overall
How does everyone feel about the Phaneuf-Schenn pairing right now?
It looks like the Leafs have lost a bit of Dion offense because of it, but Schenn hasn’t looked this good in a while.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I really like the idea of playing Schenn exclusively at ES with Phaneuf. Shelters him and allows him to get a little bit more comfortable and benefit from playing with Dion.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
If losing a bit of Dion’s offense to make him better defensively, I’m good with that.
As for the pairing, it speaks volumes that Gunnar was put out there with Dion in the 3rd, unless of course they were double shifting him
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I think Schenn still looks pretty bad and Dion is doing a very good job of covering for him.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t thrilled with Schenn’s puck movement – three or four times in the first period alone, he was directly responsible for the Leafs’ breakout failing or almost failing. If I were playing against the Leafs, I’d forecheck Schenn like there was no tomorrow. But, he used his strength well, and was part of the reason Tavares got so few chances in the mid slot and in close.
In short, there’s a reason he didn’t play for the last 8 minutes of the game.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Off the puck Schenn was fantastic last night, with the puck it was like watching someone play russian roulette
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Just so much time with him hunched over, looking like he was using someone shorter’s stick, kicking the puck around in his feet, then losing it.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Bravo DGB, Bravo
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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
I lost a lot of respect Timmy T.
Wish that ignorant, rich hockey players wouldn’t get political.
by PhilSpecter on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
especially for events that have nothign to do with politics.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he needed to suck it up and go but the Boston media, as always, is no better. Stop whining about him being selfish. He’s the reason the Bruins won the Cup and is entitled to make stupid decisions like that if he wants.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t call it selfish, but I would call it stupid and counter-productive. As I said yesterday, if George W. Bush had wanted to congratulate me for something and it was not at all a political event, I’d absolutely go whether or not I agree with his policies, because when the president asks to do such a thing you listen.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, but there’s no reason for the Bruins media to whine about it. He’s an MVP and the best goalie in hockey, and no matter how stupid his decisions are, he’s entitled to make them.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
meh, it’s massachussetts and they’re a pretty liberal bunch so I do understand why they flipped out, even if I disagree with them doing it.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, rich people shouldn’t have personalities or do anything that we don’t pay them to.
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This is a tweet.
according to our buddy birky, Dreger said dont expect MacArthur to be a leaf much longer. COuld be dumped for a pick.
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Either way. Because on the internet, all speculation is considered fact.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Right now, MacA’s a 3rd round pick. Last deadline he was a 1st. At the draft, his RFA rights were a 2nd. Who was it last night that said I’m always right? /sigh
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3rd rounder would be disappointing. I’d want at least a second for him.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
well, not “at least”. No one gives up a first for him without being drunk on the phone with Burke. But a second would be good.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
yes, but we’ve also gotten goals out of him etc.
its not like he’s been in the minors
by Ben Schnell on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
you certainly weren’t the only one advocating for his trade. some were certainly more vocal about their desire to keep him around than others.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
actually, Burtch and I were going to have an “Even Stephen” about this very issue. I was coming down hard on the side of ‘trade him now’. Burtch, not surprisingly, was strongly against it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I have decided I want the Leafs to try and trade everything for John Tavares.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahahahahahahhaaha
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YOU LEAVE MY UNICORN DREAMS ALONE.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that’s the only place they can live….in dreams
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
We can get you a rhino, they are just obese grey unicorns .
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by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
You’re just saying that because you became fully erect at the idea of Lupul-Tavares-Kessel
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll be whatever I want to do.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
So everyone who was scared MacArthur was a 1 hit wonder were… right?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
He’s back to producing at his career numbers, which means no more assists.
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Well the whole MKG line has lacked production, and the PP has dried up.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Assist wise: yes, he’s fallen way off. For goals, he’s still pretty much on pace for last year’s total.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
His underlying numbers are still good. He can’t pick up any assists because he’s had lousy linemates for much of the season. If Kulie wasn’t slumping so badly, MacArthur’s numbers would probably have looked a lot more like last year’s.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
this is the XML feed for the Mike Richards show. Dreger starts about MacArthur at the 7:40 mark of the Blue Breakfast segment. Simmonds and Richards are joking about MacArthur being invisible and Richards says he’s still on the team. Dreger interjects and says he may not be for much longer. Later mentions moving him for a pick or pick + player.
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Fine by me. I won’t miss him, plus dumping him for a pick would free up a roster spot for Frattin.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
that may be the idea they are going with.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
If MacArthur gets traded as the set-up for another move that requires the Leafs to take on salary, I might be OK with it. If the Leafs are literally just trying to off-load him, I think that’s dumb.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
NO MORE SET UP MOVES. NO. NO. NO. NO.
Last time Burke tried that he failed on making the other one in a timely fashion: Lebda/Kaberle,
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I meant more along the lines of how Burke had to line up Blake/Toskala for Giguere in order to clear cap space to acquire Phaneuf. Two deals essentially at once.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
And
Don’t forget about moving Kubina so he could sign Komisarek.
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I console myself by telling myself we actually moved Kubina to free up the cap room to sign Beauchemin.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Then Beauchemin was turned into Lupul and Gardiner. Great move in revisionist history
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds like a great concept for an SNL skit.
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“Great Moves in revisionist history”
That cab driver doesnt hit the brakes in front of Harold Ballard in 1964
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Except the one guy who sounds like someone doing an impression of Brian Burke.
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well, i mean they’re kinda boring as they put me to sleep, but nothing they said made me want to bash my head on the wall, like the CBC guys
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if the Leafs make the playoffs, can we stage demonstrations outside the CBC to get Bob Cole back?
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Oh man when the game switched to Winnipeg-Florida on Saturday hearing Bob Cole almost made me weep.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
ah, Bob Cole and Harry Neale. What a duo!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
your mom’s tolerable
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OH OH
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Can I come hang out with her?
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like these guys?
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ok poll
Worst opposition announce team out there?
Personally its Penguins, Panthers and Bruins
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was a game against the Sabres this year where the announcers gave up on the game and started discussing Crabb’s name.
“He’s the Alaskan King Crab!”
“Ho ho ho, good one.”
“How many legs does a crab have, anyway?”
“Good question. I’ll look it up.”
5 minutes later:
“So I looked it up, crabs have 6 legs and 2 arms. So there we go.”
“Huh. So the arms are the ones with the big claws?”
“Yup.”
“Interesting.”
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by The Bag on Jan 24, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They were so reluctant to start talking hockey again. It was very bizarre.
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It’s been a long year for those guys
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha………that’s funny…………….I just hate that call man, the croaky, squealy GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. Hurts the ears.
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Sabres do have Harry Neil, him and Bob Cole were a great duo.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I admittedly don’t hate Jack Edwards as much anymore. I started following him on Twitter and I at least can respect the fact that, giant homer he may be, he loves the game and he often has a lot of positive things to say about opposing teams. It’s a lot better than listening to blowhards like Glen Healy.
Devils announcers are probably the most annoying homers out there.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
He’s fun to watch when the Bruins are playing teams i don’t care about, unlike the other ones i don’t like who i would never watch under any circumstances.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
It’s true, I like to listen to him making fun of the Habs.
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That rant about hockey royalty and revolution was the most insane, half-baked crap ever…but because he was sticking it to the Habs, I can’t not love it.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
…Goes down as if shot! GET UP!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
i dislike it because i have no idea whats being & my experiences with french hockey announcers are watching games with my habs fans in-laws who don’t appreciate my Gomez taunting and pronouncing Darche as Douche
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Meh, I’d rather not understand most of the stuff spewed from sports announcers mouths
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I just laugh at Darche because of a Southpark episode in which the skiers keep calling Stan Marsh, Stan Darch… so I just keep laughing at Darche
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
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Went to high school with him and his brother. total hockey lunkheads at the time *and they both made the NHL, so they were getting good value for the lifestyle they were living at the time), but I certainly respect that he’s turned out to be successful in his life after hockey
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Bruins
Carolina
Penguins
Ottawa (so bad TSN uses the Buffalo feed )
Red Wings
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Bruins
Anaheim
Carolina
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Ottawa (so bad TSN uses the Buffalo feed )
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Definitely Mickey and co. for FSD (Ken’s not so bad).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, Hockey Night in Canada
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by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Last year I would have said the Devils when it was Doc and Chico because it was nothing but intolerable catch phrases, nasal shouting, and a small confused little man who could never make heads or tells of what he just saw.
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I always though doc was better on the Devils broadcasts because he was too busy carrying Chico to do anything really terrible.
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It gets better if you know absolutely everyone’s nickname, because they never, ever call anyone by their last name.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t it the Rangers guy who sounds like he’s been smoking cigars his whole life, and his goal phrase is “HEEEE SHOOTS AND SCARRRSSSS”
that guy kinda sucks
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Worst voice has to be when Randorf does play-by-play for the Habs.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Tampa’s announcers piss and moan about any penalty called against the Lightning.
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Y’know, I can’t remember the last game I watched on a Tampa feed. I’ve definitely watched them play, just not usually on their feed, I guess. But if that nomination is in the “homerism” category, I’m not sure they’ll hold a candle to Pitt or BOS.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Tampa’s announcers are pretty lousy.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot stand the Red Wings FSD crew. Mickey Redmond is awful.
On the other hand, I found that the Dallas crew was rather enjoyable to watch as an opposing fan. Personally, I would think that the Leafs crew is one of the better ones for an opposing fan to listen to
I dunno, I've seen Bowen get pretty homerish. Not that I mind.
Most of what i’ve heard is that the Leafs production value is high (compared to a lot of other teams’) but the bias still exists.
It’s pretty hard to get away from.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt that he can get homerish, but he doesn’t really whine and complain about non calls like some announcers, which I find the most off putting. Plus, who doesn’t like to hear him yell ‘holy mackinaw?’
Holy mackinaw, the alliterative names for starting goalies, that ‘nggggghh’ sound he makes when the Leafs make a huge mistake or get a weird bounce that leads to a goal against. Love it all.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Three things I could do without
1) The minute long stretches where he and Greg Millen don’t even pretend to call the game, they just giggle about some random joke like they’re baked out of their minds.
2) The fact that LeafsTV is by far the worst offender for putting up pointless graphics that say exactly what Bowen or Millen just told about and missing 3-4 seconds of the faceoff (Seriously, they were putting up graphics AS you could hear the puck drop), and Sportsnet is second worst.
3) Bob McGill
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1) The minute long stretches where he and Greg Millen don’t even pretend to call the game, they just giggle about some random joke like they’re baked out of their minds.
This really bothers me sometimes. Like they’re spouting off inside jokes in front of a national audience.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
my wife commented about that the other day. i said it was no worse that the shit Regis and Cathy talk about in the morning. to which she replied ‘yeah, but that’s a talk show. the point is to blabber on about nothing for 30 minutes. these guys are supposed to be talking about hockey’.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t get too upset about it, but sometimes I’m just wondering if i’d rather hear silence / ice noise rather than their stories.
Luckily I’m usually drinking / listening to my own music for a bunch of games so it goes unnoticed more often than not.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, sometimes it’s ok. i’ve noticed it more lately though, which makes me think they’re doing it more or the stories are less funny.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I liked Bob last night. He made a few decent points
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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He talks like Will Ferrell in the SNL sketch where the guy can’t control the volume of his voice
Cynically Sarcastic
Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
FAIR? I’LL TELL YOU WHAT’S NOT FAIR. IMAGINE BEING AT A SCHOOL DANCE, SINGING ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE. AND A LITTLE BIT SOFTER NOW. AND A LITTLE BIT SOFTER NOW. AND A LITTLE BIT SOFTER NOW. OR HOW ABOUT BEING IN THE PRIVACY OF A CHURCH CONFESSIONAL…..
TWEET AT ME BRO
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Well done
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Mickey is definitely horrible. From a game two weeks ago where Detroit had a powerplay that was cut short a minute in by one of their own players took a 2 min. minor as well:
Both teams are 0 for 1 on the powerplay, but Detroit had an abbreviated powerplay.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’d take that game over and over again the rest of the season.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, most hockey games make me sleepy. If I’m not doing something else while watching tv when it’s dark out… there’s a 70% chance I’m going to fall asleep in front of it.
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My heart races and palms sweat during every single game, unless we’re up by like two goals, and even then. I’m going to die super early.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Meth is a heluva drug.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Heisenburg agrees.

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by Shield on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I’ll rec a breaking bad pic/reference every fuckin’ time!
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
best show on TV.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
easily. I never knew Malcolm’s dad could be soooooo badass.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
ITS JESSE PINKMAN, BITCH
Love this show
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
VRN loves it cause there is a character named GUS
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Is there? I didn’t even notice.
Is Gus the Chicken Guy?
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not good at details for these things. I just always refer to him as Chicken Guy.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he’s the bomb…
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
YOU ASSHOLES BETTER NOT BE SPOILING THE END OF SEASON 4 FOR ME
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
It’s probably #3 for me, behind Mad Men and Castle.
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Haven’t watched yet. Also Game of Thrones but things based on a book you’ve read are never as engaging.
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I would highly encourage you to check it out, I really like it. But then again, I find the whole 1920s30s era fascinating on many levels…
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I will be doing that eventually, I’ve heard good things. I’m going to take a break from watching shows en masse for my Spring semester though and just watch things I’m already watching on TV. In the summer I will pick up a few series though and it’s on the list.
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watch game of thrones. my wife loves the books and loved the show. said it was incredibly well done
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
This. I read all the books, and the show holds up. purely awesome.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’ve watched it, I just meant I don’t usually think of it in my top shows and that’s probably due to having read the books. The show is awesome and really well done, have no complaints as a fan of SOIAF, but because it’s not original I guess I wouldn’t give it the same “kudos” as some other shows.
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Mad Men and Breaking Bad are my #1A and #1B
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t too impressed with season 3 of Breaking Bad, it was a whole lot of nothing until it had a pretty awesome final 2 episodes. Season 4 was a bit better but I still think it got a bit stale after the first 2 seasons. Mad Men I feel has kept itself fresh.
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I guess i view them as 2 different shows. and relative to Dexter, BB has stayed remarkably fresh.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
ive seen up to the end of 4, ive been warned to go no further
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I tell everyone to stop at 4.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
2 was the worst out of the first 4, Lila was an infuriatingly horrible character
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
agreed.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I didn’t like two that much either.
Really I only liked 1 and 4.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
john lithgow rules
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
this
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he was great.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
he was great
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it’s a bit of a cliff hanger to end on though, ill probably rent 5, it costs like 4 bucks for the whole season at the video store by my gfs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Jumbo video is alive and well in Kingston……ok maybe not well, but it’s still there
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
FREE POPCORN
You could get like 5 movies for five days for five dollars or something back in the day. Used to rent the VHS of old wwf ppvs.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
the rental prices are really low still, i got the last season of the shield when i was there last time for a whole week for 7 bucks
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Another brilliant show. Same dude that do Sons of Anarchy.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
no idea
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
my socks stay fresh relative to Dexter.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
you wear your socks for 4 years?
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, not quite for four years..
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Haven’t watched Dexter yet, it’s now on Netflix so I’ll be checking it out this summer.
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season 3 is a bit on the bad side.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
it was a whole lot of nothing until it had a pretty awesome final 2 episodes.
Walking Dead was the same way. MAN was that last episode good tho
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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agreed. there are ‘downer’ episodes and there are ‘upper’ episodes. you notice the effects of the uppers so much more as a result of the downers.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Walking dead.
Four #1 shows…..
god I sound like a commenter for Mile High Hockey
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Probably the closest I've come to a heart attack
Was when the Leafs were playing the Habs to knock them out of the playoffs and potentially get in, themselves. Of course, then Scott Clemmensen happened. But that was one of the craziest games I’ve seen in a long time.
Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.
I was at that game, took years off my life for sure. Awesome though.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
That night ended with me verbally assaulting my then estranged-father in a packed bar. Good times.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Lol, I actually fell asleep during the first intermission and woke up when Kessel scored in the 3rd.
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I fell asleep after the 2nd and woke up and it was 3-0.
So much win.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
They were good except for that one part where they said the Leafs and Islanders were equally in the playoff hunt.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
For some reason, some commenters over at Lighthouse Hockey were saying similar things last night…. I’m not sure why.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
they were comparing Kadri/Tavares. those guys are nuts.
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Yup. Tavares is a shit load better than Kadri
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Isles on pace for 76.77 points
Leafs on pace for 90.54.
Totally equally in the hunt :|.
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Maybe they removed 13 games
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by leafer1984 on Jan 24, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
I am operating under the assumption that those first 13 games never happened.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Anything against the Bruins.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
There is a difference in what I am doing and a meme
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Looks like a meme to me.
Pension Plan Puppets*
* Blog contains less than 2% puppet content by weight.
Your face is a meme
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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confirmed.

Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
by birky on Jan 24, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
on the floor
laughing
laughing very very hard
Resident Internet Tough Guy
by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
My outline isn’t that pixellated.
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Must be acne then.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
actually, we haven’t done much better than them since about mid-november. prior to last night both teams were basically .500 through that stretch.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
The islanders announcers are reallytolerableterrible.
I fixed that for you.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Actually, I think they’re fine, but go ahead and change my words so they say the completely opposite of what I intended.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
i found them completely devoid of emotion. they also consistently forgot the names of about half the Leafs players.
I’ve watched US feeds all year and have enjoyed the majority of them. This was not one of them.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
it was like a 4 letter change. not even a whole word.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
clearly by completely changing the conclusion of your statement i’m attempting to disagree with you, not trying to put words in your mouth.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna call you the mechanic. “Fixing” things that don’t need fixing
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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...
Homer: Now, this wheel balancing is free, right?
Worker: Oh, you betcha, absolutely. Deh, uh, oh, uh-oh, wait a
minute. These tires won’t take a balance!
Homer: They won’t?
Worker: Nah, nah, no, you hear that clunk? [knocks on wheel]
Homer: No …
Worker: Well, that tells me you need four new tires.
Homer: Really?
Worker: Yeah. Legally, I can’t even let you drive outta here on
these.
Homer: Oh, please, can’t you let me slide this time?
Worker: Gee, I’d really like to, but if my boss found out, I …
[the employee makes a quick hand gesture to his boss]
Boss: All right, what’s going on over here? Were you gonna let
this man drive out of here on unsafe tires?
Worker: No boss, I swear!
Boss: Ah, that’s it, you’re fired!
Homer: No! Wait! This is all my fault! Oh, if I could only
turn back the clock and buy four new tires …
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
There’s your problem!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like Sex Panther rides again tonight.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I’m torn. Part of me thinks he cant be too tired after last nights game, but the other says its a b2b and Reimer should start tonite
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jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Gustavsson likely to start again tonight vs. Islanders. Wilson said “probably” when asked after the game.
Now he has to be starting, because if Reimer starts now Wilson will be a dirty liar.
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Reimer seems genually happy to be winning games though, sideline or not
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
But....
I can almost guarantee that Reminer will start tomorrow in the 2nd half of the home and home against these lowly Islanders.
Hmmmm I don’t know. Maybe you play THE SAME TEAM in less than 24 hours, with the same shooters and the same Team tendencies?</blockquote>Like I said, I can guarantee you Reimer will play tomorrow, (the 2nd half of a home in home, in less than 24 hours) and he will have his chance to take back his starting position then. And that is exactly why Gus starts today. Let me know if that made sense? Because I just explained the logic I think Wilson and Allaire, (apparently you don’t think Allaire pulls some strings here, which I know he does) is going with. Enjoy the game, and enjoy watching Reimer tomorrow. Think of me when he is named the starter after tomorrows light practice on Long Island :)
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We were lied to!
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I spotted his problem – he switched from an “almost guarantee” to an “Alfredsson guarantee”.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d give Reimer the start. Let him get in a game in before the break, so he’s not off the ice for another 2 week stretch
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Leafs could enter the All-Star break as high as 7th if they win tonight and NJ and WSH both lose. Do we call off the panic if that happens, or are we convinced that the Leafs have no chance to make the playoffs until they actually make it?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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No, we won’t beat NJ for you, that will knock us out of the lottery.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
I do realise that counting on the Sabres is not the wisest of propositions.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I always figured the leafs, if they made the playoffs would be in 7th or 8th. I dunno, they’re certainly not locks, but panicking never seems to make anything better.
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Unless you’re at the disco.
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by Shield on Jan 24, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They do make a pretty cool sound when they strike a burning cop car.
Oh, sorry, wrong type of club.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
And the library is the Bibliotheque… way cooler sounding.
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It’s not that we have no idea chance even if we win and WSH and NJD lose, it’s just that we lack players that can help make our spot a stronger guarantee. Given how weak the east is this year, we should be in solid 6/7.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve heard a lot of Leafs fans lately saying that the Leafs are already out of it and we may as well prepare for another season of disappointment.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
well yea, there’s always a few Birky’s in the world
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by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Given how weak the east is this year?
The top two teams in the East are both on pace for 114.09 points.
The top two teams in the West are on pace for 112.12 and 105.92.
The 8th place team in the East is on pace for 92.47 points.
The 8th place team in the West is on pace for 90.54 points.
The last place team in the East is on pace for 72.35 points.
The last place team in the West is on pace for 54.67 points.
The east is pretty strong this year in comparison with the West.
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by Shield on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Until the west throws Columbus out of the conference for dragging everyone down.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Basically a good argument can be made that the East is better and more competitive. The top teams are better, the playoff cutoff is higher, and the two worst teams are in the West, playing their divisional peers more often.
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Central division is crazy this year and Pacific took a step back, northwest is still the worst division in the NHL.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
SouthEast begs to differ.
Southeast
FLA C 54
WSH C 53
WPG C 50
CAR C 45
TBL C 44
Total Points: 246
Northwest
VAN C 62
COL C 54
MIN C 53
CGY C 52
EDM C 40
Total Points: 261
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
DIV/CONF GP PTS Pctg. Avg. Pace
Atlantic 235 281 0.598 98.05
Northeast 241 265 0.550 90.17
Southeast 241 246 0.510 83.70
Pacific 239 259 0.542 88.86
Central 243 289 0.595 97.52
Northwest 243 261 0.537 88.07
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Nuh uh, Red Wings rule Rangers drool!!!
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
It's kind of funny to look at the playoff projection probabilities right now for E/W
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
In the East, there are essentially 4 locks (>90% probability of playoffs) – BOS, NYR, PHI, PIT
In the West, there are essentially 6 locks (>90% probability of playoffs) – VAN, DET, SJS, STL, CHI, NSH
In the East, there are 5 “bubble” teams all with a >60% chance of playoffs – FLA, WSH, OTT, NJD, TOR
In the West, there are is 1 “bubble” team with >60% chance of playoffs – LAK
Funny thing is there are 5 teams in the West, all between 20-42% chance of playoffs, who will get that final spot. MIN, COL, DAL, CGY, PHX.
What a weird time.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
The Leafs need to grab as many points as possible before February 15th. That’s when the schedule really turns to the dark side.
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
well we already messed up January losing to bad teams, we’ll have to make up those points against better teams later on unfortunately.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Personally,
I’m convinced we’re not making the playoffs until they pull off something short of a miracle.
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
that’s my view now. Not really a miracle, but a trade that pushes us from bottom bubble team to middling-to-good bubble team.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t even think a trade is going to benefit this team. I just want to see them play unreal for the rest of the season. unsustainable levels of playing well. (hence the miracle)
Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Gus almost had 4 shutouts this month, that is bananas.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions
bananas

Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you have to cross your eyes
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sure but if you remove those games he’s shit.
/stirringthepot
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
3 in his first 83 games. If his recent play actually is sustainable, that’s a pretty remarkable turnaround. If Scrivens had played any better I don’t think Gus would be in the NHL any more.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
yeah Scrivens was bipolar in terms of his play….some games he was incredible, others he was real terrible.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
you’re almost certainly correct.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
actually, his mean SV% for the season is .901, with a SD of .068. That puts his 3SD range between .69 and 1.1.
Thus, the shutouts aren’t outliers. The game against Florida (.667 SV%) is, however.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
sorry. that .667 was a game against…wait for it…Boston.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
take out that one game and his SV% goes up to .912.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
feel free to calculate the same for all 60+ goalies in the league. frankly I’m not interested.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
you’re dead to me
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
you don’t make friends with stats.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
you don’t make friends withstatssalad
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for the Lisa reference.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think the chant originated with Bart and Homer, but yes, it was directed at Lisa.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
bart started it, homer joined in, marge too. Lisa is the target.
come on people, this is, like, 6th season stuff.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
pretty sure marge wasn’t a part of it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
yes she was, they conga’d off screen, and when they came back Marge was there too, Lisa calls her on it.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
you are correct. And then Marge apologizes and explains that it was “catchy” right?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
huh. so she was. well i’ll be…
i think i’m used to watching edited syndication versions. i don’t remember ever hearing marge talk at the end of that before….
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to be pretty fucking disappointed if he doesn't.
One main flaw is that we’re assuming a normal distribution about a mean of .901, which clearly since the max you can get is 1.000, isn’t normal.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
we’re also assuming homogeneity of variances, among all kinds of other things.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ya this is where basic stat assumptions break down pretty hard
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
sex panther 2.0:
90% of the time, he stops 110% of the shots.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
If he did, it wouldn’t be a statistical outlier. it would be some kind of violation of finite mathematics, but not a statistical outlier.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
yell at him for being late again for an article you dont pay for. Go for it. He is on twitter. What an asshole ELliotte is.
Yeesh
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Guy is such a punk. “Free.” Bah. Who does he think he’s foolin’?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
You mean they pay Glenn Healy?
AN OUTRAGE!
The Healy is paid a bucket of fish heads each Sunday at daybreak, which are brought to its foul-smelling cell in the basement of the CBC. Thus the creature’s anger peaks each Saturday evening, like clockwork.
It’s also how The Healy maintains its oily glow.
"These balloons aren't going to stay filled till New Year's!"
"Those aren't for New Year's... those are my everyday balloons."
by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 24, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know, and with a young kid at home? Come on, neglect them in favour of providing us small tidbits of entertaining hockey related information!
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Does anybody else think it would be really cool if, if the Isles get a new rink, they have a lighthouse coming out of one corner of the building kind of like the tower at the ACC, and on game nights the light is on.
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
That sounds way too expensive for the Islanders.
Unless of course you’re referring to a scale model…. like a hockey rink for ants.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
C’mon, it would have to be at least…3 times as big.
In the court of public opinion, Steve Simmons is Lionel Hutz.
by The Bag on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
how are they supposed to play hockey if they can’t even fit into the building?
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
It could double as a search light to help the police. This area could really use it.
by ShahofToronto on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
They could accomplish something similar by just always playing DiPietro in net.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG!
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
like this one?

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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ha
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
so what are your predictions for the all star draft?
by power-forward on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM EST via Android app reply actions
All Ottawa and Boston players get picked first
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
i think kessel gets the third for chara
by power-forward on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
He gets picked last once and becomes a god, what happens if he gets picked last again?
Flugenweb, space code, twit zone, ass mode, check ze tweets.
He scores 26 goals in the all-star game.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
I’d rather he did that in a playoff round or two
by ShahofToronto on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
It'd be funny if they did some pick-trading.
Team Chara trades it’s 3rd and 4th round picks to Team Alfredsson for their 2nd and 5th round picks.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
so thomas and seguin are chara’s first couple
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"The penalty kill is a tiring part for the goalie, because when a team’s in your zone for two minutes, that’s a lot of moving side to side," the coach said.
I tried to make a similar point yesterday and was disagreed with vehemently. Who wants to disagree with Ronnie Wilson today?
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
What, are you expecting some pat on the head for a good job? Get the fuck over yourself.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think you fully understand the purpose of this blog. I mean, it’s a giant dick measuring contest right? Right??
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i hope so, otherwise chemmy won’t like that e-mail I sent him.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Not just a dick measuring contest, a GIANT dick measuring contest.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
does that mean the contest is big or we only measure giant dicks?
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
It could swing either way.
/dickjoke
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This could really get out of hand. Wait…
by stevesmith19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Now your just pulling my third leg.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Actually...
If you look down, I think you’ll find the apostrophe missing from that comment.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
This person gets it.
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
U mad bro?
"I will actually score as many times as Kulemin assists me."
-Mikhail Grabovski
by MapleLeafMole on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
ChuckGormleyCSN Chuck Gormley
Capitals GM George McPhee says Alex Ovechkin wil lnot participate in AllStar Game
+1 suspension.
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nope. I bet it doesn’t happen.
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Me neither. I should make it clear that I was just hoping it would.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah, keep him away from the ice as long as possible.
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His sponsor Mr. Big should ship a palette of bars to comfort him through these difficult times.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Where’s your camera phone now, toothhole?
by stevesmith19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Idk, the Lidstrom/zetterberg suspensions were because they argued they were injured, so the NHL said that you can’t play in the next game since you were too injured to play in the ASG.
This is essentially an outright “Fuck you NHL”
So he might get suspended more.
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
he fucking should……….what a joke.
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I mean Crosby came last year when he was injured to meet with the fans and shit…………what a douche
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hit him for 2x the original suspension for protesting
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
oh god oh man oh god oh man
give mr big allll the suspensions!
by PhilSpecter on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Of course
Katie Carrera @kcarrera
McPhee says Ovechkin isn’t comfortable participating in ASG as suspended player. Doesn’t want to be a distraction. Ovechkin will not attend.
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
As opposed to the time he wore giant glasses and held two sticks.
by stevesmith19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
As we reported last night. The NHL is disappointed Ovechkin won’t be in Ottawa, but won’t discipline him for not going.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Cue outraged Wings’ fans in 3,2,1.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was the year they won the cup, so not as much of a deal for them
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ah well either way, It’d be a stretch to argue that the one game that they didn’t play caused them to lose Game 7
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Red Wings should probably be upset about this… it’s a worse reason to not go to the game, and he isn’t getting suspended
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Wheel of Justice is back!
Cue “Spinning Wheel” by earth wind and fire…or blood sweat and tears, i dunno
by PhilSpecter on Jan 24, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
More jewllery
Katie Carrera @kcarrera
During Ovi scrum, fan yelled “Hit him again Ovi!” Alex’s reaction: “I will” #Caps
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
The NHL could have avoided this whole thing by having a policy that a player serving a suspension during the All-Star Game isn’t eligible to participate, but then that would require something the league does to make sense.
For a hundred million dollar organization, the NHL is run by idiots.
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by clrkaitken on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If my employer suspended me without pay for a few days, I wouldn’t go to publicity events while I was suspended either. Why should I? They just told me my services weren’t required and that they weren’t going to pay me.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Does any player get paid for attending the ASG?
Like I said above, this is a non-issue if the NHL’s policy was suspended players can’t attend the ASG.
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As was pointed out yesterday, his sponsors can’t be too happy about this.
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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Which obviously they have a right to be.
But this situation makes the NHL look incompetent and Ovechkin look like a baby.
If they had such a policy, the sponsors aren’t pissed at Ovechkin for skipping out on his promotional duties, just ticked at an incovenient time for him to get suspended. And the NHL doesn’t have to play judge and jury with everyone’s intention on whether they’re going to go or not.
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just ticked at an incovenient time for him to get suspended.
He wasn’t suspended for the all-star game – he has elected not to go. Sponsors should be pissed at Ovechkin for skipping out on his promotional duties.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
If they had such a policy
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re Phil Kessel, you get paid in CARS
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unsuspended players are being paid whether they attend the game or not.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Jan 24, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
This is what I’m trying to determine; does any player actually receive additional payment for being at the ASG?
All players are paid based on the 82 game schedule. Ovechkin’s suspension means he forfeits 3/82 of his salary.
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He’s a repeat offender so he may be suspended based on the number of days in the season instead.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
My understanding has always been that they forfeit pay based on the number of games they’re suspended to eliminate variances in scheduling.
Say you and I both play for pro hockey teams, and make the same annual salary, and we both get suspended 3 games for a similar incident.
My team plays its next 3 games over 5 days; your team plays its next 3 games over 8. How is it fair that you lose an extra 3 days’ salary?
They calculate it as 3/82 so we’d both forfeit the same amount of salary due to being suspended.
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As Skinny said below, Ovi was not ruled as a repeat offender for this particular suspension because enough time had passed since his last one, so he’s being suspended on the “number of game missed” as opposed to the “numbers of days missed” scale.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I should have been clearer. He misses salary based on “games missed”, not “days on suspension” scale.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
You previously agreed to go to this publicity event before you were suspended. Your suspension explicitly excluded this (previously agreed to and otherwise mandatory) publicity event.
If you’d like to skip it, you should be facing the same punishment as everyone else.
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by Bower Power on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
They should make him go but not allow him to play.
I think something like Kessel’s towel boy would be appropriate and fair.
Down Goes Brown
"I’m not going because golly gosh, I’d hate to be a distraction." – Alexander Ovechkin. "Crap, why didn’t I think of that!" – Tim Thomas.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I also previously agreed to do the work that I’ve now been suspended for. Either my error was so great that I shouldn’t be showing up at all, or they should be paying me and I’ll show up for everything I’ve agreed to.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
i wouldn’t. nobody watches the ASG.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
In fact I would imagine it’d be a great time to set up trades. All GMs gathered together for the festivities. Lots of talking.
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I hope they send Lupul, Kessel and Phaneuf in with hidden agendas for the other teams’ all-stars
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Ryan Suter, great to be playing with you. Man I wish I could play alongside you every game of the season. Boy you sure would look great in the blue and white and Brian Burke will pay you a shit load of money in the offseason if you choose Toronto. You have no frickin’ clue how big the pile of money that will be dropped off at your door is.
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With the amount of 0’s on your paycheque, you could OWN a small European country. I know I do.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, Ryan, leading the Leafs through the playoffs – even just one or two rounds, will make you a hero. They will build you statues, sing songs of your exploits, and dance in the street long into the night celebrating their defensive god.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I remember somebody said something last summer when everyone was after Richards to the effect of: “if you lead the Leafs to the playoffs, people are going to name their dogs after you. Win the Leafs the Cup and five years from now there’s going to be a lot of kids with your name starting kindergarten”
which could be supported by the Brian Burke anti-wussification program
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a 3rd year class IIRC
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Nash, you and I play pretty well together. I hear if you suggest you’re unhappy in Columbus they’ll trade you out of there before the media catches wind of it… just sayin’.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, Nash. This has to be his first ASG miss in like, forever, no?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
And Leafs fans want this non-star on our teams? pfft
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
And Winnipeg isn’t sending anyone to Ottawa at all. Whatever happened to the rule that every team had to have at least one player in the ASG?
Not even Kane?
Are they not even sending a rookie either? I thought they had to send some one.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck, I go away for 2 weeks and I miss out on everything
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, there it is.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Winnipeg Jets – Are the only team not sending a player to Ottawa for the all-star weekend, which is great news since players often become distracted when they spend a weekend somewhere tropical.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WELLWOOD. WHY IS THERE NO PPP CAMPAIGN TO SEND KYLE WELLWOOD??
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Come on. Having Doughnut Boy as an All-Star, with no Ovie, would be too good.
Winnipeggers would never, ever, be allowed to forget it.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
WHATUP HATERS I'M BACK IN OTTAWA
WHAT DO YOU MEAN i CAN’T DRIVE MY BOAT DOWN THE RIDEAU? I CAN DO WHAT I WANT I’M A FUCKING ALL-STAR

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by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All of them: Man, it’s so great to play in Toronto, you know you want to come here tavares
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fans actually come to our games. No seriously.
That goes for you too, Yandle.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes we get snacks thrown on the ice, they’re so awesome
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Tavares had to buy 29 tickets to last night’s game. If he had to do that 41+ times a yr at ACC pricing he would be playing for free
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I somehow doubt he’d invite so many people each game if he played 41 games there…
Either way, I feel like an “arrangement” could be made.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
i wonder if they can get things like a box added into their contracts, the value would probably be in the cap hit…
or at least have one reserved for them so they can pay for it.
Resident teetotaler married to a habs fan. Who is also not a fan of most dogs.
Or, a box could be reserved for one of Tavares’s corporate sponsors to pay for, to do with what they will. It’s good advertising to have the entire Tavares family up there for every game in apparel bearing the company logo.
box could be reserved for one of Tavares’s corporate sponsors to pay for, to do with what they will.
Ding ding ding ding ding
Tavares would be falling ass-backwards in sponsorships here. None of this Tuna or Cheetah power drink crap.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Related (but digressing) question: If I were a multimillion-dollar company sponsoring an NHL athlete, I’d put it right in the contract that he agree to wear a fucking mouthguard, on the grounds that the better looking he remains, the more effective a spokesperson he is.
But could you put the company logo right on the mouthguard so it would be visible during games? I’m sure the league wouldn’t like it—it kept Grant Fuhr from putting the Pepsi logo on his pads—but would a mouthguard fall under the definition of “equipment” for the purposes of the rule against advertising on equipment?
Along that tangent, my prediction is that the great motivator for significant progress in equipment and player safety will not be from the NHL, the NHLPA, or any source inside the game.
It will be the insurance companies telling NHL teams “Do this or we’re not insuring any more contracts”
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Rules follow the $$$$$$$$$$
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
That kind of perk would have to be factored in when calculating his cap hit, would it not? I mean, you can’t just throw free tickets at him. They have a monetary value printed right on them.
I was clearly suggesting something nefarious.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Malkin man, it must suck to play in Crosby’s shadow, come here and be the big fish
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri on Twitter, since deleted
“@Katt__Williams: My ex? Yea I’d still hit that….with a bat.”
Well that’s awkward as all hell.
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To clarify, he was RTing @Katt_Williams he just doesn’t know how to do that properly. Even still.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ah ok. That clears things up then.
MOVE ALONG CITIZENS. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
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by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if he deleted it of his own accord, or if someone from the Leafs organization saw it and told him to take it down.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Komisarek probably lent some of his expertise.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Hodge made me do it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Pretty sure 98% of women have already been scared away from PPP
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my yes.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair, on average I would say women are much more reluctant to contribute to website forums and sites like this, at least in my experience. Basically all my male friends post on a reddit, have regular forums, etc. but no matter what I do I can’t get my wife or her friends to move beyond “lurker” status on reddit.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
You sir, have no fuckin clue what you are talking about in regards to women posting on here.
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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here? I never said here. I said “sites like this”.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
There are no sites like this, PPP is unique like a beautiful snowflake
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Listen up maggots.
You are not special.
You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake.
You are the same decaying digital matter as every other site.
by holymackinaw on Jan 24, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In my experience, you’re full of shit. Just in my experience.
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by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
But he has solid anecdotal evidence about the behavior of one woman!
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed it was anecdotal, hence the “in my experience” and not “I have proof of x”
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
so uh, why bother saying anything? Especially if it means nothing and adds nothing to the conversation because it means nothing….
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
Especially if it means nothing and adds nothing to the conversation because it means nothing
….should i close my account then?
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I hate it when people just re-post the same thing from an earlier thread.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
adds nothing to me
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by MapleLeafMole on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
where the white women at?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I can see where you’re coming from, but this is a loaded conversation. Best to back away slowly
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
At least the 3rd or 4th time this has been a can of worms.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
This thread needs more Gaga.
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Or just tweet that at Kadri and see if we can get a RT…
/toosoon
/tryingtolightenthemood
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
rah rah oo lah lah
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
i’d hit that
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
ewwwww
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’d hit that………with a bat
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
This isn’t funny nor is it welcomed. I get that you’re doing the whole “Check it out I just referenced a topical discussion because Kadri just RT’d the same lame joke”, but frankly it’s not humorous in the least bit.
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Agreed. And it makes me look like an idiot for trying to defend the community.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
It was a reply to Jared’s “I hit it” with the Kadri retweet reference. Nothing more nothing less.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
It was stupid and poorly timed given the context of the conversation.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I was reading the thread in chronological order and there were Komi and Hodge jokes prior. Your joke about Komi lending his experience in hitting women is allowed but this is stupid. Right.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Was more about the timing than anything else.
But you’re right, glass houses and all.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Cheers
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I always think of Weird Al:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_BmTGv43M
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
You’re right it is, and it’s my own fault. I have conversations like this with my wife and she enjoys the discussion, I just have to realize others are more likely to read or hear what they want and react negatively. I walked into that one, so for that I apologize.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
you did qualify it with several ‘in my experience’. it was clear you were making an observation and not a blanket statement or some editorialization.
classic PPP overreaction.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
i take offence, and will now over react at you calling it an over reaction
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what we’d expect from a fighter like yourself however… so it’s not actually an over-reaction … it’s the typical reaction.
;-)
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
im going to over react to that!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
classic PPP overreaction.
Maybe I worded what I said in an overreading manner, but for me to question his “experience” with my own is perfectly valid and I take offense to your insinuation that I am “overreacting”
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it’s not so much your reaction or your particular words that is the overreaction, but he barrage of comments that follows.
since we’re giving opinions here: frankly I think it’s sad that women don’t post here any more, but I don’t entirely disagree with his comment, as I too know of no women in my own circles who spend time on these types of sites as much as men i know do. i
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
And? How is it ok for the two of you to make conclusions based on your anecdotal evidence when it comes to this issue and it’s not ok when you’re talking about hockey?
Find some stats, and then what you say will be valid. Until then, I have the right to use my anecdotal narrativized evidence to say you are both full of it.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
I don’t think either of them is trying to draw broad conclusions, mostly make an observation. I also don’t think it’s an insane thing to assert that there are more male members on a sports blog than female, in general anyway.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
It is certainly not an insane thing to assert that there are more male members than female members on a sports blog, and no where in my statements was I arguing anything that remotely supports that.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
It seemed as though you were suggesting to VRB and Goose that their experiences with their female friends were not sufficient enough to be of use to the conversation.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
They are not. There are plenty of forum based and comment based communities (even some surrounding SPORTS, surprisingly) that have a majority of female readership and engagement.
Therefore, explaining away why women were scared away from PPP by saying that women don’t like these places in the first place is invalid.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
what a stupid thing to argue about.
NEXT!
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, I’m sorry I’m done. I cannot believe this place.
I’m sorry that I tried to talk about a disturbing trend that I’ve noticed on this site and challenge the behaviour that I feel contributed to that trend. I’m sorry I bothered you with my womanly over reaction and exaggeration.
Just know that I don’t have a great deal of respect for many of you, and your refusal to deal with this head on just shows me that this is not the kind of community I wish to support or engage in.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
Agreed. But your initial rebuttal wasn’t so eloquent.
I get the frustration. But as someone who has been a member for a while, I think that while not perfect, this community has tried to strive for equality and respect for all. Look at some of the reactions to FLYERROB or the whole Bill Watters issue this summer.
Not perfect, but saying that this is a hostile environment for women seems unfair.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
maybe they went to twitter?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’m assuming it was because they felt uncomfortable or were not enjoying the discourse. I know that the Komisarek “story” was a pretty major tipping point.
I can’t speak to individual’s motivations.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Which is perfectly valid, to be honest I cannot remember a lot that preceded that story. And I do regret the loss of those members as they were a positive addition to the community.
But it doesn’t mean that everyone here is responsible for their departure or that the environment is hostile to women in general.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Although as someone who is not a woman, I’m obviously somewhat under-qualified to make such a statement.
But generally speaking I believe that the moderators and longer-term members try to create an inclusive environment.
Sorry for Burtching, I’ll shut-up now.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Japer’s Rink has a large female membership. Matchsticks & Gasoline is managed by a woman. Mile High Hockey, Raw Charge, Stanley Cup of Chowder, Pensburgh, Hockey Wilderness, Five for Howling, and Nucks Misconduct all have female editors or contributing writers.
In fact, PPP is one of the few SBNation hockey sites that does not have a female writer on staff (anymore). Our lack of female participation is likely the exception, not the rule, and probably something that we should address.
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by birky on Jan 24, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How would you address this aside from asking members to be more respetful and considerate toward one another? I thought when the topic of members leaving was brought up several months ago, people were of the opinion that those who left were too “sensitive”. Am I imagining this (I wasn’t here when the original —-gate happened)?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
aside from asking members to be more respetful and considerate toward one another?
.
Why is this being given as a last resort? Shouldn’t being respectful and considerate towards another be the norm.
I’m as guilty as anyone of forgetting about this sometimes, by the way.
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Сертыфікаваны Grabbo Палюбоўнік
Seriously, you’re an asshole
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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Will you too just declare your love for each other already? Christ it’s like watching a bad RomCom with you too.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
I want to see Leafer fall in Clark’s arms.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
My heart belongs to you and you only birky
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Why are women scared away from PPP again? What evidence do you have of a pretty bold assertion?
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i was wondering this as well, but thought it best not to ask…
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not going to let someone come into a site that a lot of us spent a lot of time building to be baselessly called a misogynist.
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by Chemmy on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
thank you!
/clap clap clap
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
i actually went looking for some stats. only found general stats about usage in general (as of 05 it tipped slightly in favor of men, at least when it came to regular usage), but these were all general usage statistics, nothing about blogs or PPP specifically.
and i think your anger may be displaced. stating ‘these are the things i observe in my life’ doesn’t make me full of it. unless you’re accusing me of deliberately lying. like, i know of women who DO post on websites, but i say they don’t, just to try to enact some weird misogynistic agenda. then i would be full of it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
right, but keep in mind I didn’t seek to explain what I’ve noticed in my life. There could be a whole range of issues, ranging from the sexist comments/behaviour theory proposed by Fergus, to a whole array of other factors, or some combination thereof.
I never drew any conclusions, I related my experience. I’m in policy, you don’t draw conclusions without significant research.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I also should stop using “really” often.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well in my limited personal experience women blah blah blah so obviously that extends to women in general and blah blah blah.
Just shut the fuck up already. All of you.
It’s comments and mindsets like this that bring about the “Guys Only: No Chicks Allowed” atmosphere here that frankly I hate and wish to eradicate because everyone here has valid points and argument to be made regardless gender.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
by SkinnyFish on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah….so no one made that kind of a statement but yeah. Anyways, I think if you read above we worked it out, I apologized for offending anyone as that was not my intention.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody gives a shit about apologies and “oh it wasn’t me up there, I was misunderstood my bad”. Just shut the fuck up about it. It’s that simple. I don’t want to hear another god damn word about, “LOL WHERE DID ALL THE CHICKS GO LOL. CHICKS DON’T TALK ABOUT SPORTS LOL”
shut
the
fuck
up
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Is this where you take your ball and go home? I thought it was somewhat refreshing and gained some insight reading the conversation bewteen Fergus and Goose and VRN.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I thought so too, I’m dropping it, but there’s no need for Skinny to be an jerk about it.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
what mindsets? i’m offended at the assumption that because i observe gender differences in my life that somehow i want the internet to be free of women. horseshit.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There’s obviously no grey area in between.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
clearly.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I would say that my own personal experience is the same as yours and Goosemonster’s.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
write it down. Put some numbers to paper. Come on, stats heads, do something useful.
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You can call me many things, but a stats head I am not. I demand an apology!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, YOU STOP OVER REACTING TO MY OVERREACTION!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
We will need to see the QualThread and Posts/60 of the women in your life, guys.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, here’s my problem with what you just said:
I just have to realize others are more likely to read or hear what they want and react negatively
What I heard was that in your experience women do not post on website forums, like reddit or PPP. In my experience, that is not true, and instead, sentiments like that perpetuate a stereotype that it’s ok to not question the reasons why a community that used to have a fairly large and dedicated female readership now has a virtually non-existant one. Maybe people here should not just dismiss the fact there there are no women here because they “dont like these places” or “dont follow sports as much” or instead, focus on what in their behaviour perhaps made this website an uncomfortable and not enjoyable place for women to be.
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by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We do post a lot of pictures of Mrs. Hagman
/poisonedenvironment
/organizationalbehaviour101
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well, really just that one picture over and over and over…
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Listen, stop making stupid ass jokes to “diffuse the situation” I am being serious and this has come to a head several times, and I think it’s time to address it.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
by Fergus30 on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s also probably unfair to make a blanket statement that this is an uncomfortable and not enjoyable place for women to be.
It may have become that way for some women, but there are female members here.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Fact: there used to be a large and dedicated female readership on this website
Also fact: there is now not a large and dedicated female readership on this website.
Conclusion: something happened to make that readership not want to stay dedicated to this website. I think it’s a pretty fair blanket statement to make.
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
Fair enough, I’d like to re-iterate that I don’t know what incidients you’re talking about (I must have missed them) and that I really do sincerely apologize if I really bothered you. I didn’t think my comment was really out of line.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of it happened in GDT"s I remember something’s happening that I never saw and all questions were met with don’t ask
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Right, but again, your talking about a specific subset of female members who had all be around at about the same time and all more or less left at the same time.
We still do have female members here.
And the whole Kadri thing was brought up in the context of how terrible his comments were. We weren’t all high fiving each other over here or something.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
wow this kid is dumb
5 minutes later
girls rule boys drool
what just happened anyway?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
i’m not quite sure how to answer that.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
in general, regular users try to show new folks how it’s done around here. but we can’t be held responsible if a small group make others feel uncomfortable. free speech and all that.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Right, and that’s a valid response, though I disagree with aspects of it, but saying I’m full of shit is simply a negative reaction that I thought I didn’t warrant.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
also, I wasn’t here for whatever incidents you’re referring to, so I’m really lost when it comes to that.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
well, there’s no reason to invalidate my experience because I said shit, is there. Your response to how women use these kinds of sites was a form of overreaction, wasn’t it?
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
Not really, I thought it was an interesting anecdote that might stimulate a small conversation/debate. A friendly one, as is (usually) custom.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the real problem
You guys are arguing about something thats non-quantifiable, and frankly, who fuckin’ cares.
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Look up “MALE PRIVILEGE”
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by theninjagreg on Jan 24, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Here is link: http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/11/nerds-and-male-privilege/all/1/
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by theninjagreg on Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
If you ever wonder why I left PPP, it’s because of such ILLUMINATING attitudes such as this.
"I don’t know what it is about me that makes people think I want to hear their problems. Maybe I smile too much. Maybe I wear too much pink. But please remember, I can rip your throat out if I need to."
by Wrap Around Curl on Jan 24, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Every time you say that, I read it in the Professor Farnsworth’s voice. I’m guessing this was intentional, or do I gotta stop watching Futurama before bedtime?
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
It’s extremely intentional
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Always intentional.
But you are already in you pajamas.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
A GIRL, WHAT DO I DO?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
You’re our special 2%. Well you and I think DiaDud.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
And Leafer87 and leaflover
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
And Mrs. Puckizin, although we haven’t seen her in quite awhile.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
87
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wait till you see the caricature… then you can judge for yourself.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s last year’s…
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/2/15/1995205/ppp-caricatures-part-xix-leafer1984-brings-a-certain-amount-of
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I do look forward to this years
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I’m not a big fan of the way I drew last year’s. This one should be better.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Fantastic!
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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i like the bit of self-promotion
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He’s like the BCapp of caricatures!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
but with better spelling…
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I dont even know where to begin with this
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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…and here I was this whole time reading all your posts in the voice of Janice from friends.
/notseriousbutatfirstIdidconfuseyouwithLeafer87alot
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or trolling but either way I’m laughing
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
well there is a girl named leafer here, confusion is possible
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit I completely forgot about them because they don’t OBEY THE LAW OF ONE TEAM
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
i like how leaflover keeps getting tagged with that
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Lawbreaker by association
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Under the basics of criminal law, Leafer87 is the principal offender, and Leaflover is party to the offence.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Call ’em whatever you want, all I see is a bunch of Pens fans
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
and even if I did, I pretty much think we can like whoever we want, and not concern ourselves with what y’all think of it. :P
by leaflover4ever on Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was unaware of this.
what has become of our youth today?
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
there used to be a lot more women that posted here. And then something happened.. I don’t remember what….
Emo Girl Wing of Leafs Nation
really? that’s a coincidence
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Let’s be honest. That was a powder keg but there were tensions brewing loooong before that. Why? I don’t know for sure exactly (didn’t care enough to poke my head into it), but there were.
Sure, shooting the Archduke started WWI but it’s not like the wheels weren’t spinning in motion years before that happened.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes the assassination is usually the easiest way to explain it but many other reasons that countless books have expanded on
"Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help." Calvin and Hobbes
"Alright, here’s your last question. What was the cause of the Civil War?"
"Actually there were numerous causes, aside from the obvious schism between abolitionists and anti-abolitionists, economic factors, both domestic and international, played a significant-"
"Hey, hey."
"Yeah?"
"Just, just say ‘slavery’."
"Slavery it is, sir."
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This actually happened to a friend of a writer.
They had their PHD in Antebellum American History.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I mean the Austro-Hungarian empire was pretty doomed long before that assassination, plus with all the alliance-building someone was bound to start a war and drag everyone else into it. All they needed was an excuse.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
In my 20th century histry class we were assigned countries and told to “not make war happen”.
we couldn’t
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
“Mike Komisarek didn’t hit a woman because he doesn’t hit anyone” isn’t a joke about hitting women.
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by Chemmy on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1. He didn’t do anything.
2. If Mike Komisarek had been actually guilty and had punched some lady up at a nightclub do you think our response, apparently as misogynist blog of the year, would be “lol women get beated up”?
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And if it offends people, fine; some people get offended, fair enough. But don’t paint everyone as misogynist because they’re not as offended as you are about it.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a tame joke that isn’t making fun of systematic violence against women in America or anywhere else.
We had a group of people who were ready to leave the site and seized on said joke as their time to leave.
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well at least I know the story now, thanks.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I was around for it and remember, especially since those people had resigned as admins only a few months before IIRC.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like that old Leafs joke. Judge in a divorce asks the kid which parent he wants to live with. Kid replies, “Neither, I want to live with the Leafs cause they never beat anyone”
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 24, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
How dare you post a joke about child abuse.
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IIRC i chased them off with my negativity.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Okay this made me laugh
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One point what?
Centimetres? Inches? Feet? What unit of measurement are we using here?
IF WE’RE HAVING A DICK MEASURING CONTEST WE DAMN WELL BETTER DO IT RIGHT FOR GOD SAKES!
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just wait till you see my wang’s CORSI
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I bet all of its zone starts are “offensive”
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well, it does get a lot of time against soft opposition
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How’s its zone-finish though?
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
damn apps. Ill rec this when I’m home
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm on it...
but I’m going to eliminate the 1st 13 inches and also Cornelius’ entry.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
MINE WAS BETTER
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
8=====D
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
as long as nobody starts draws dicks for every home game.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Or accidentely post a picture of a penis…
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ah the good ol days
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Best FTB ever
Fairweather fans can go to hell
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You all missed my set up. so I'll do it.
But [insert name here] already had his caricature done.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
oooooooh [insert name here] got burned!
rec’s all around!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Mine’s 1, but only because the first 13 don’t count.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can I please remove my 3 smallest erections from my dataset?
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
Now I’m wondering if you can have a “good boner day” vs. a “bad boner day”.
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Yes you can
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HockeyAnalysis would like you to remove your 13 best, actually.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
oh god the MSM is going to turn this into a big deal.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
It was pretty dumb dude. Advocating hitting women is not cool
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No it isnt, but I’ve said, far, far worse things to friends.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Good for you. I mean what you say to your friends is the perfect barometer for a professional athlete to conduct himself on a public place
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by leafer1984 on Jan 24, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
D’uh.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
meh, I don’t get all that offended at comments meant in a humourous light. People who get offender do just that: get offended. Doesn’t really affect them.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yet I’d wager the majority of (young) people would interpret “I would hit that chick” as a sexual reference. Naz was trying to make a sorta-clever wordplay. Unfortunately for him, he’s too much in the spotlight for something so risquee.
No, some idiot account made the joke an he was RTing it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes because when I see a good looking girl, I turn to my buddy and say, you know I would hit it, I dont say I would hit it… with a bat
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I thought this site was starting to get past alll this shit. I was wrong
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Let’s all agree that it was ill-advised and that just because you do not find a certain type of humour offensive that someone else cannot be offended by it.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Right. I dont get offended by much. However, shit like that isn’t funny.
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Not even funny a little.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Can we joke about cruise ship captains rowing running away from their responsibilities
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t find it funny either, but it hardly bothers me. It was a terrible joke, but whatever, he has the right to free speech.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
The fact that he can’t use twitter properly is funny. The rest is just stupid college humor that most people (pretend to) grow out of.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
It was a dumb thing to do for an athlete, but remember Dan Carcillo’s tweet? Pro athletes aren’t geniuses with social media.
Ya…. ya.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
at least he didn't make a rape joke on twitter.
recently in the ufc a couple fighters made rape jokes on twitter which weren’t really funny and they got in shit.
one just had to apologize i think, but the other was released from the ufc. He was invited back after he went to some rape victim centres.
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
Maybe it’s a new cool lingo thing with the youth today…. maybe it’s totally fetch
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
It could be that it’s deck.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
a live bat, or a wooden one? Because maybe he meant one of them flying bats.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
maybe the girl was coming at him with a knife?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
throwing a bat at her might not help, wouldn’t it just fly off?
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
bats are scary, dude
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
unless she’s an Osbourne
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yeah I suppose, but it might depend on the kind of bat. Now a vampire bat? That’s serious right there.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
He had " Hahaha my man" at the end of it. What a dumb tweet
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Is your family in danger of dying horribly due to a chemical that’s everywhere in society?!?!
Find out at 11 tonight.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Sourge of Dihydrogenoxide!
This space for rant...
by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s all just admit that Nazem Kadri is an idiot and move on.
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U2 sucks, even worse than the Arkells suck
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
it’s close, though.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Wheelchair Jimmy is going to perform at the ASG
See Ottawa? This is why you suck.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
If they got him to perform AS Wheelchair Jimmy it would be pretty epic.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
wait, I thought timmy was the guy with the wheel chair and jimmy was the kid with the canes
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Timmy!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I deduct one CanCon point from you.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
i dont even know what that is
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I thing I just made up for not knowing about Degrassi TNG.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
see, you had me right up until TNG, classic Degrassi or nothing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
the only TNG that is acceptable in conversation is of the star trek variety.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Amanda Stepto (AKA Spike Nelson) used to live across the street from me when I lived in Toronto. Being all of 5 when Degrassi hit TV it was surreal. Her sister taught my brother how to play baseball
If you look up "Loyalty" in the dictionary you'll see a picture of a Leafs fan wearing a Todd Gill jeresy looking like he just got punched in the stomach
I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
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WHats wrong with Drake? He’s canadian and at least relevant
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remember the bands they had at the olympics?
what the fuck was that?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
thanks Jared, just when I had blocked that out you had to go and re-hash that awful, awful massacre of Canadian society.
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I dont. I remember Shinedown and Goo GOo Dolls at the NHL awards 2 years ago.
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chahka khan
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
everybody that’s all you gotta do
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by fair_n_hite_451 on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
they had some decent bands IIRC (though I forget now who they were).
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Avril Lavine and Headly
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
ewwwww.
good bands played throughout the week at different venues.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, the back and forth opening thing they had was just a “which terrible drudge of the music industry that happens to be canadian and from the past 14 years can we throw on stage to kill time” and it was god awful
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hey at least Big Wreck is coming out with a new album!
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i love that song That Song
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
i love the lyrics of that song That song: ‘i love that song’.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I like The Oaf.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Me too.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
you guys missed the joke.
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Damn.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Relevant how?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
He just had a new album out and he is popular
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Ahhh I was thinking more in terms of relevant to hockey… I don’t think his music really fits.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
much better than that shit Montreal pulled when it was there
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I hope Ottawa has the spartan Guy back for the ASG
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Drake
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this guy?
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Drake

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Drake

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Drake?

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Winner.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
DRAKE?

Dion Phaneuf: turning the tunes up since '10
by thenumber14 on Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s right-handed so it should be in his left hand, probably just can’t see it because of the cropping and the fact that it blends in with the background.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
somewhat obscure

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Im dick tracy, take that prune face!
now Im Prune Face, take that dick tracy!
now Im Prune Tracy, take that Dick….
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that quote will always be rec’d. One of the best simpsons episodes
by JohnerstonRex on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Check out Hobo With a Shotgun!
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Now if it was Nick Drake, that would be impressive. Least not because it would involve raising the dead, and necromancy has been banned in Tamriel for centuries.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure were in need of a new FTB. People apparently have nothing to do today.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
Can’t believe they’re starting Gustavsson over Reimer!
/fakeoutrage
/butseriously
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’m mostly just pissed that I was lied to last night. I was given a guarantee goddammit!
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well you know Ron Wilson, always lying about the lies he lies about.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, we need a Leafs trade just to get over the January craziness
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I thought of that too! haha Great movie.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
as long as its not fan shot. app doesn’t let you see those and I know y’all would miss me.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well there is a Top 25 under 25 to post in and there should be a game preview up in an hour and a bit.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Also FLYERROB’s fanpost about the Marlies or something.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
/slams head into desk
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
hated said he won’t have time to dedicate to it till after supper
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
ha!
Jared got auto corrected to hated there.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is FLYREROB running your autocorrect?
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
hated gonna hate
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I see you made it there anyway.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
From a statistical standpoint, his work with players who need a good old fashioned arse whooping was much more comprehensive. In my opinion
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 24, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
i get off work at 2:30
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
oh.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
What’s the website that says what goalies are most likely starting today?
(Is this a real thing or did I dream it up?)
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 24, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions
www.ronwilson.com oh wait no, that’s the opposite of what you want.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
huh. that iss a real website, neat.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 24, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like Gus vs Montoya
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No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nabokov wasn’t even that bad, but I guess when you have no number one….
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
WHICH GUS WILL IT BE TONIGHT? SHUTOUT GUS OR 3+ GA GUS?
ALL THIS AND MORE AT 7
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
i’m gonna say 3 even. if the over/under were 2.5, i’d take the over.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
random
I just ran into Mark Osborne at No Frills. Pretty nice guy.
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
The guy that used to do all those stunts on that TV show?
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dave!
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
that’s Dave
I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.
by Chuck Diesel on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Dave’s not here, man.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Dave's not here
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really?
OH MY GOD!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I know. I remember in grade 3 when I saw osborne in a game, I thought he had to be related to Dave because they were both on TV and had the same last name.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 24, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
They also both wore helmets.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Osborne brother is famous though……
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Albert brooks. that’s his brother
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 3:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No no you’ve got it all backwards, Albert Brooks is Marty Funkhouser’s brother
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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
very astute observation
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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you, I’m really feeling like I’m on my game today.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Just remembered there was an alumni game on Friday, got invited by a friend but had prior commitments. Anything interesting happen there?
well, that escalated quickly
yup. Clark and Gilmour back together. it wasn’t on TV so I didn’t hear anything.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it was in conjunction with the Marlies / bulldogs outdoor game
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Gilmour deked out all 5 Bulldogs and the goalie, slid the puck to wendel who punched the puck so hard it broke into 100000000000 pieces
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by leafer1984 on Jan 24, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm….Presidential State of the Union address, signifying a key point before the 2012 campaign to decide the leader of the most powerful country in the world, or the Leafs vs. Islanders?
Easy one for the Leafs.
Even I (an American) would make that same Decision. Unless I was suffering from Insomnia, I would have no other reason to put on the Presidential State of the Union Address
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Unless of course you wanted to keep up to date and make an informed decision come election time
by ShahofToronto on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
besides the election is in 9 months. the same things will be said again hundreds of times
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I too would choose hockey and read about it later. I was addressing the part where he said the only reason to tune in is insomnia.
by ShahofToronto on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I’m an American too and I agree. Dual citizens FTW!
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry. Too many Americans on the site. Some of you have to go be Islander fans.
You can visit in the Summers though.
Even admire the Cup.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
But no touching.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 24, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close nominated for best picture. I haven’t seen it but man does it look sappy
Has it even come out yet? Looks really good though. Definite must see.
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got awful reviews on rotten tomatoes, sub 50% if i remember correctly.
by pho king awesome on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I read the nomination list and realised I have only seen 2 movies out of all that were nominated.
harry potter (art direction) and the Muppet ( song)
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Best pic nominees are The Artist, The Descendants, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, The Help, Hugo, Midnight in Paris, Moneyball, The Tree of Life, and War Horse…of those I haven’t seen Extremely Loud and Incredibly close and The Help
The Help is a horrible movie. Frankly Moneyball wasn’t that great. if this is the best that Hollywood has to offer it’s no wonder they’re making less money.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
The review of the Help I remember reading in NY review of books just crushed that movie, highlighting how in its efforts to show racism, it actually fuelled stereotypes themselves, among other things.
To be honest, I don’t think I’ve seen a single movie nominated at the Oscars yet.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
also I hope the Help is that one about black servants in the southern US, and the young white woman who gives them all a voice in her writing.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
the only ones I wanted to se of those were money ball and warhorse. but I’d rather see the stage production of the latter
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Warhorse wasn’t that good. Some good scenes but as my wife so aptly put it, “It’s Black Beauty with war… and Black Beauty was better.”
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Is it that much about the horse? I was kind of hoping it was a WW1 movie with the horse as sort of a secondary thematic inclusion.
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That’s the way I interpreted it (as not being primarily about the horse).
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
That’s good then, I would rather see a WW1 movie than a horse movie.
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WW1 movies are far too rate…I assume because its far too depressing and the Americans kind of showed up to the party late
They showed up late to WWII as well…
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
yes but at least in WWII they were there for more than half of it… and were there for the part everyone remembers best (invasion of europe)
Didn’t they fail to attack their fuel supply and maintenance facility? Seems like that would have slowed down the US a bit
And the carriers were out at sea on maneuvers which their intelligence failed to notice.
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They could’ve launched a 2nd raid and completely decimated the whole base, they had barely any defenses left. They were worried about the carriers. However they also outnumbered the carriers 8-3 IIRC. They could’ve sat there launched 1 or 2 more attacks then waited for the carriers and been “Come at me bro”.
Even still they kept the US Navy in the pacific weak for almost a full year and were able to take over places like Guam and Wake which would’ve been much harder against a full fleet.
Yep… all they did was break the Giants left knee cap when with better execution (the original plan was to include the 2nd air raid and the destruction of the carriers) they could’ve cut off the whole left leg.
If the Japanese destroyed the entire pacific fleet they were planning on, they would’ve had tons of time to build their airstrips across the pacific to cut off all shipping lanes and keep the US from launching any attacks without the use of carriers.
or they could not have provoked the USA at all and built up the air strips and defences with out being harassed
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I mean they basically were taking over all of east asia. more or less.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I just think WWII is more easily adapted to film. Has a much clearer enemy and has less depressing trench warfare.
Up until a couple of years ago I was much more interested in WWII than WWI. Now I’m writing my master’s thesis on the resettlement of WWI soldiers in Canada… funny how interests change.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Also WWII was, you know, about something (stopping an aggressive regime from taking over Europe, etc.), whereas WWI was a terrible waste of human life that just ended up causing the next even greater loss of life.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
All I have to say is thank god Hitler was kinda an idiot or else Germany would’ve won the war at least for a little while…
Well one of the current issues I’d say in WWII historiography is grappling with the horrible atrocities the Allies committed both in Germany and Japan. It’s a diffiucult subject given how veterans in that war are (rightfully, I think) treated so respectfully.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote a historiography essay about that last spring.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well it was more about why Truman used it than if it should have been used or not.
by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts too. So many potentially good war movies are ruined by love stories or other gimmicks. War Horse comes close to falling into that trap, but I think it just narrowly avoids it.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
The stage show is completely from the horse’s point of view, the movie is less centered on the horse and does more about the people around the horse… but the movie follows the horse through its life pre and during war.
And I get the reason, WWI was the last war which horses were used and abused… but again, it pretty much is the Black Beauty story. Not really enough about the war to make it a truly war film.
Oh, and for the most part, the accents are horribly done that you get confused to which side you are watching.
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As bad as Kevin Costner as Robin Hood?
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At times. For a while, I could have sworn it was the French army, but it was the Germans. Didn’t know what accent they were going for.
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I like Kevin Costner’s decision. Just don’t even bother faking the accent
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Exactly.
The worst ever is when people speak in a Russian or German accent in a movie where they would realistically be speaking Russian or German. Why would they be speaking English with an accent?
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I actually hate it when movies set in foreign places with supposedly foreign characters all speak Engish, with different (and confusing) accents. I’d rather have subtitles, but I understand that doesn’t sell.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t rather have subtitles, just don’t see the need for the accents.
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But some people can’t watch a movie with subtitles
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the blind? That would be my only guess. Maybe the dyslexic, too.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve heard many people say they can’t. I usually shut my mouth and not inquire as to why because I am afraid of the answer
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They can’t read unless they follow the words with their finger?
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Do they read books? I love watching subtitled movies, foreign movies are among my favourite.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
The Passion of the Christ sold just fine! (I know, exception to the rule)
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it really pissed me off that the Germans have a mixture of French, British, and quasi-German accents.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, all the Germans could have been from the Alsace area, but that wasn’t likely and movies are better off not being so confusing.
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Alsacians have a pretty peculiar accent….
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I could just see an actor think:
Well, the fighting happened on the German/French border… maybe I should try that accent for authenticity. Hell-o Oscar!
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after working with them I have come to hate actors.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 5:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
elseldo?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 24, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
When Fallon hosted SNL they did a Warhorse bit. Excellent. Man I love Fallon
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by Isosceles Kramer on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
That was one of the best episodes in a while. He was awesome on it
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I’ve seen The Help, Midnight in Paris, and Moneyball… of those I would probably say Midnight in Paris is the best film. Want to see Hugo, War Horse, and The Descendants.
If it was up to me, from the ones I’ve seen, Rise of the Planet of the Apes would be nominated and win. Wasn’t a great year for amazing cinema.
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The Muppets. done.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Haven’t seen it. Really want to. Could change my mind for my favourite movie when I see it.
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I haven’t been that excited for a movie on a long long time.
Disney loves having tons of previews and I stood up nd yelled into the projection room for them to skip the previews after 10 min.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Perfected Muppet comedy – funny for kids, funny for adults, great work with the 4th wall.
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The only movie I’ve seen is War Horse. Terribly cliched, but still a good movie, visually stunning.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I saw those commercials and thought “Why isn’t this animated?” I might take it more seriously if the horse talked and had a anthropomorphic wagon buddy.
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yeah what I’ve heard about the movie I think I would find more acceptable in a stage production.
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it really wasn’t. I think the only ones I will end up seeing are The Descendants, Moneyball (I like Michael Lewis books and its supposed to be good, so I overlook the baseball), Midnight in Paris and possibly the Tree of Life.
by Goosemonster on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Holy fuck that FTB took a long time to read. I wish you could minimize a whole thread you have no interest in.
by pho king awesome on Jan 24, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions
skinny’s getting all my recs today
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by elseldo on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
And leave your current discussions here.
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