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by SkinnyFish on Jan 30, 2012 7:00 AM EST
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Well there was an All-Star game this weekend and that's about it. Nothing much to talk about really, and there won't be until Tuesday when the Leafs play the Penguins.....that is of course unless a trade is made. Mmmmmmmmmmm trades. Speaking of which;
LeBrun thinks Ruutu and Carter are on the move. Should the Leafs make a move for Carter?
Burked Miffed at Cherry? Grapes Addresses Rumors.
These two need to get a barn.
Should Burke Add Top-Six Size at the Deadline?
Sure. Why not?
A Maple Leafs Primer Series: The Leaf Legacy in My Lifetime
Mike from VLM is recanting his Maple Leafs fandom one decade at a time.
What's Left in that Wallet Mr. Burke?
Only about $2.9M because he wasted over $1M on Orr, Rosehill, and Dupuis.
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The Return of John-Michael Liles: Who Takes the Fall?
Why Cody Franson should sit when John-Michael Liles returns: http://thehockeyguys.net/the-return-of-john-michael-liles-who-takes-the-fall/
Liles isn’t particularly youthful
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I’m curious as to why there’s no mention of Schenn?
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
Completly forgot about Aulie..
I would sit Aulie before Schenn
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
Aulie is already sitting and we still have 1 too many with Liles back. Aulie goes down but then someone still needs to be in the press box.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Beauch just resigned in Ana
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perfect!
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
What about Aulie? He is the guy who should sit
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Aulie has been terrible, he really should be in the AHL.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
1 more year in the AHL would do him good.
Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin
what bothers me most is that it feels like mixed messages. They said at camp he basically thought he had a spot and didnt do well, so Gardiner beat him out. Then they bring him up for injuries when his AHL play has been bad. I mean, why not try Holzer or someone else to keep hammering the message home: you play well, you might get called up.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
The thing is, and i’m just guessing here, he probably only becomes the player they want him to playing in the NHL. I mean, for Colborne, Kadri & Frattin, they want them to develop offense at the pro level. They proved that they have the scorers instincts through junior (and ncaa for frattin) and now have to learn how to transition that game to the pros. Since they are now playing against men, its a lot harder to make the space they used to be able to, so they either have to develop physically or adjust.
For someone like aulie, playing against the AHL will only do so much. He’s not intimidated playing against men because he’s bigger than all of them. He needs to learn how to shut down the best players, because that’s who we want him to become. The best players in the AHL usually find bottom roles in the NHL. He needs to learn how to shut down the best players in the NHL, so shutting down the AHL doesn’t really do enough. That’s why they want to pair him with phaneuf, and give him a shot at stopping real scoring threats.
The problem is, his AHL numbers were/arent that good either
However, he [Franson] wasn’t the most reliable Leaf defenceman when it actually came down to defending.
The same can be said for Mike Komisarek, with the exception of offence, that is. While he has improved since his first season with the Leafs and is now a much better defender than he was at that time, he still commits a few too many turnovers and allows opposing forwards to skate by him a little too often. He, though, like Liles, brings a veteran presence to a locker room that has lacked very much of one all season long.
Luke Schenn has been the Leafs worst regular defender (Aulie excluded) this season. His SA/60 are the highest on the team (higher than offensive guys like Liles, Gardiner, and Franson). As a third pairing guy, I like what Franson brings a lot more than what Schenn does. Sit Schenn.
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Franson is a great third pairing defender, I wouldn’t take him out to put Liles in.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Schenn has had under 11:30 of ice time in two of the past three games. Phaneuf is playing with him (and they’re on the same side) primarily because Wilson doesn’t want to see Schenn with Gardiner or Gunnarsson. The lineup, as it stands, is doing quite a bit to accommodate Schenn’s poor play. Not sure how you could say that he’s not vying for a spot when Liles returns. Also, your entire argument for why it should be Franson seems to just be “well, he’s not Gardiner or Komisarek, so…”, and that he needs to develop defensively (which as we all know, is done extraordinarily well from the press box.)
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I know that my defensive game could benefit a lot from sitting in the Leafs’ press box for a few games.
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by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
guys
I have a problem. I haven’t gone to sleep yet and have to be at work in 3 hours or so.
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by theninjagreg on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Please advise.
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by theninjagreg on Jan 30, 2012 7:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
go book a meeting office at work. go to work now. sleep at work. since all your stuff is their you can tell them you were in a meeting all morning.
Or just call in sick…
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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 30, 2012 8:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Well I haven’t been able to fall asleep yet so I’m a head into work early and see how I hold up. I’ll have an appointment in the afternoon which I will have to attend if I’m too tired.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Jan 30, 2012 8:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
just call in sick, say you got sick saturday night and you still feel bad – it will look like you missed the whole weekend, and people will empathize.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
to be fair without sleep you’re basically sick at work, your brain won’t work as well as it should, it’s better to get some sleep.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
I like how when the article suggests Ruutu and Carter you only ask about Carter. are you telling me no one wants Ruutu?!?
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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 30, 2012 8:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
huh. seems like add a new comment appears to reply to last comment on the phone app. Guess I’ll wait til i have a computer again.
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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 30, 2012 8:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
If you are under 30, you should be fine (unless you operate dangerous things). Otherwise, have fun (sleep-deprivation is a proven mood enhancer… run with it).
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by Berezin's Spleen on Jan 30, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I like this guy’s ideas.
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by theninjagreg on Jan 30, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
That jersey Phil’s wearing looking errily similar to a TB jersey. Don’t like it.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions
I thought it was one of his draft year photos. Then I saw the Leafs logo and was confused. Then I realized what it was.
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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 30, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
From LeBrun's piece (the comments section)
XcheckMajor Rangers should trade Dubinsky Wolski Erixon for Carter. He would love NY and give hell to Burke for trading him last season. 11 years of payback for Philly. Carter will be 30 goal scorer for the Rangers, better than Dubi.
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I happened to be watching an episode of TNG the other night and when this shot came up I burst out laughing
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Looking at the comments on ESPN articles might be even worse than TSN comments…
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
TIL it’s possible for people to know less about hockey than TSN commenters.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Hey if the rangers are willing to trade all that for Carter…. Grabbo for Dubinsky?
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don't really agree that Burke wasted a million on Rosehill/Dupuis/Orr
Unless you think the team should just roll with 12 forwards instead of 14, than they would all be replaced (if you do believe that only 1 would be replaced).
Orr makes 1 000 000
Rosehill makes 600 000
Dupuis makes 650 000 (in the NHL)
Min cap hit in the NHL is 525 000. So if they were all replaced with min payment players than we would be saving (475 + 75+ 125) 675 000 over the entire year. He sent both Orr and Dupuis down about a month ago, so lets say he wasted half the season so about 390 000 off of our cap.
But really how many people are at league min? We likely would replace them with guys like BOyce and Crabb at 700 000 and 750 000 so the savings would likely be negligible.
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Yeah with the money that Rosehill makes, I’d rather have him sitting in the press box as a healthy scratch than someone else (who could be playing in the AHL and developing)
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Burke said last week that having his farm team in Toronto is a big advantage for signing prospects…..it’s also a big advantage for callups and waivers.
I’d like to see Burke take further advantage of that and only carry a 22 man active roster and should the need arise, then callup players. There is no reason to have 2 forwards sitting in the press box every game like we had earlier in the season with both Rosehill and Orr eating popcorn.
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I think it may have something to do wtih paying some fo these guys extra money (e.g. rewarding them without minutes) if they play well in the A or are seen as role players.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
The thing is though, at least with orr, he is not waiver exempt so he didnt necessarily want to lose him,
but he didnt want to play him and so replaced him.
by Ben Schnell on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
HE didnt necessarily want to lose him.
I dont give a fuck.
by Ben Schnell on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Also I think the NHLPA would take issue with the Leafs doing that.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a good idea, but what about when either the Leafs or Marlies are on the road? If you need a quick injury replacement when the Leafs are on a western road trip, it might be tough to get a Marlie in time for the game. Obviously injuries don’t just pop up minutes before game time, so the probability of that ocurring is low, but that could be the reason.
That being said, it should be a league minimum guy sitting in the press box eating popcorn, not Colton Orr eating the Leafs cap space.
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by Curt S on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Re: Carter
Do. Not. Want.
Great player, terrible contract. I don’t want my team dragged down with a 10 year contract tied to a 27-year-old player.
Hope for a buyout amnesty and buy him out having a new contract already worked out with him?
That’s about the only way I’d do it, and the relies on too many conditions to make sense
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how bad that deal actually is… $5.27M is a pretty modest cap hit by today’s standards and with the cap going up ^% every year… Let’s just say it doesn’t scare me that much. I understand the concern, I just don’t think that it should be a huge worry if the cost to acquire Carter is modest.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
It’s the 10 years that scares me away. It’s a reasonable cap hit, and him being moved once already (and a second time if Columbus does move him) shows that he can be moved, but a 5+Mil cap hit for a 37 year old player makes me very nervous.
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
exactly, the term is scary, not the price. 5.27 million? Fine. If it were a 6 year deal, then I might want him. But 10 years? He’ll be 37 by the end of it. That’s way too long to bank on a player.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I think contract expectations need to be recalibrated. Big time players require big time contracts. Burke’s unwillingness to play that game is honourable and I respect his decision, but it means we don’t land the unicorn. Simples.
by Kessel'sOversizedSuit on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
That has nothing to do with it. He signed Kessel to a reasonable contract, is he not a unicorn?
Burke is willing to pay (Richards would have made more per season), and he’s willing to do decently long contracts, but only for the right player (read: young, proven talent). Richards wanted a retirement contract, and I’m really glad Burke didn’t give him one. You don’t tie an anchor like that contract to your team that you are trying to build with a good young core.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
And I say to the gentlemen of the jury....
IS HE NOT A UNICORN?
DOTH HE NOT BLEED LIQUID EMERALDS WHEN HE IS CUT?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It goes both ways. Who knows what the situation will be in 3 years let alone 6, let alone 10. I am not saying you dismiss it completely, but it is not as bad as some make it seem.
Another way to look at it is: would you be upset if we signed Kessel to a 9 year contract at the end of his current one?
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Kessel already makes +$5M now. In two years, when his deal expires, he’ll be 26 and a UFA. He will be looking for $6.5M avg from the Leafs at the minimum (which frankly isn’t really realistic), and could easily get more than $7M-$8M on the open market. This is going to become a real issue in the next two years.
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
By then we’ll have 2 Cups, so that’s pretty awesome.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kessel seems to like it here. We’ll see how it goes, it’s really impossible to predict 2 years ahead, but if we become a regular playoff team, he may want to stay with us and become a god. Say what you will about the pressure of playing in Toronto, if you’re a real elite talent like Kessel, we will elevate you to god-like status.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ya too early to say what will happen when Kessel hits UFA.
Losing him would suck. Keep him happy.
Hopefully in 2 years, the goal won’t be “playoffs” but “Deep run, good shot at finals/Cup”
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
exactly, and if that’s the case, there’s plenty of examples of good players re-signing to stay part of a solid team.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Re-signing is one thing. What the dollars and term will be is another
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
There is no CBA for next yr so no one knows what the cap will be next yr.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Hell if it was the Grabo+Schenn for Carter+ CBJ’s 1st I’d still do it and then hit Carter with the buyout amnesty everyone assumes is coming and hope to resign him to a 5 year deal.
Even if we couldn’t get him resigned we’d still have gotten Carter for a playoff run and a top3 pick for 3 months of Grabbo and Schenn. It’d be a no brainer.
That said if Howson was dumb enough to make that trade even Milbury would be able to laugh at him.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
So you would be willing to pay $30+ million for a top 3 pick and 2 months of Carter? Not sure ownership goes for that.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Hell if it was the Grabo+Schenn for Carter+ CBJ’s 1st I’d still do it
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by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
WHY YOU TALK ABOUT FAKE RUMORS GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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I heard the Leafs were going to trade Gunnarson for Bickell straight up!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
That’s bullshit! We better get a 5th to balance it out.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
The contract isn’t that terrible. He is likely underpaid for the next 2-4 years. After that who knows what the landscape of the cap is. It is not a good contract, but I feel like people exaggerate how bad it is.
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If his feet turn him into Forsberg or if his personal issues hamper his career than it will be an anchor. If he can find his 30-40 goal self than it’s a bargain for the next 5yrs or so until he starts to fall off.
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by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t really fit what the Leafs are looking for if I had to guess.
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Jeff Carter doesn’t fit what we are looking for?
A bonafide, excellent 2way centre. He is exactly what we are looking for. The only cause for concern is the contract and injuries.
$5.2M for Carter, or really any player of his caliber is highway robbery.
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He’s actually a remarkably good penalty killer. He’s almost precisely what we need (in terms of forwards, anyway)
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
He would be a good consolation after the leafs missed out on Mike Richards
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I’m not sure that I wouldn’t rather have Carter, to be honest — injuries notwithstanding, of course.
http://bluechipprospects.blogspot.com
This discussion has been done to death here.
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I don’t know how you could say that… Carter is a very good player but Mike Richards is better in almost every aspect except goal scoring.
That said I wouldn’t mind either at all.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t sell the farm to acquire him, but I would like him on the Leafs, especially if we can unload a big contract like Komisarek in the process.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Re: VLM
recant… decant?
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by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 AM EST reply actions
Burke seems to want add size to leaf top 6, what move do people think needs to be made
- Shutdown Defender
- Big Mean Top 6 Forward
- Goaltending
- #1 Center
- Trades to free salary/space for Colborne, Frattin and AHL youth
- Something else
g) all of the above?
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
1. The Leafs do need an upgrade on defense. But Suter isn’t the guy. I’ll think they’ll look at the back-end over the summer for an upgrade. Too expensive right now.
2. Yes. The Leafs need a tenacious, physical forward who can punish the opposing team’s defenders on the forecheck. Right now, Toronto is relying on their 4th line to play physical, and they can’t play that current group 12-15 minutes a night down the stretch.
3. If Gus keeps playing like he has recently? No. Again, they’ll look at this position over the summer.
4. Again, over the summer.
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although…..Paul Stastny is having a down year in Colorado, has a big salary, and they have to re-sign almost their entire team for next season. I think he could be on the move.
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I could see him moving too, but I don’t know what kind of price Colorado would demand. Likely a very high one regardless of his current season.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I’d be all for Stastny.
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was thinking this exact thing over the weekend.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that they will probably look at the UFA d-men market rather than make a trade now. But given the poor seasons of teams that have several unicorns (e.g. Anaheim, CBJ has two-ish) it may be possible to scoop a big top-6 guy. Hence I think that’s what Burke is targeting right now, but who knows if he’ll get it. I wouldn’t bet against Burke but I’m still doubtful he can pull anything major off.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Right. If you look at the UFA list for the summer, there are several potential defenseman that could be available. From everything we’ve heard, D are the hot commodity on the trade market and teams are asking for massive returns.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
exactly, Burke won’t mortgage the future for a UFA d-man. Why not just sign them in the off-season? We want to make teh playoffs, but we also want to keep on our path of getting better and building a solid young core, with some veteran elements to guide them.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Looking at the Cap geek list
I am looking at guys who are 30 or under and am curious about a bunch of players (I just don’t know much about them):
B Jackman
Oduya
N Grossman
I may be interested in the following as UFA’s (also 30 or under):
Matt Carle (very interested)
Gleason
Coliacavo (doesn’t everyone want splodeybones prime back?)
3 interesting older names that I am curious on people’s take:
Mitchell at 34
Stuart at 32 (I read somewhere that his family lives in San Jose in the off season. I wonder if that is suggesting something)
Roszival at 33
(Do these last 3 guys have anything left in the tank? What do you think they’ll cost?)
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I think when talking about adding size up front the TOI is the key. Like you said we need a guy who plays that style and can play 18-20 minutes a night. Rare but very valuable
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 30, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a very small group within the league that can do what Burke wants. Most are not available.
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18-20 minute forwards is a pretty damn small group. Ones with size and tenacity? Extremely rare.
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I feel like it’ll be Umberger. Burke drafted him. He’s only 29, expendable in Columbus.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 30, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
He’s signed for 5 more years at a $4.6m cap hit. He’ll be 30 this summer. Have I mentioned how terrible his deal is?
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Yikes, I mean I knew it was bad, but oh geez.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 30, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I just looked it up, $4.6 per year until 2016-17? Hell. No.
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
1. I don’t see Burke acquiring Dmen – I wouldn’t mind him shipping out a 2-3 d guys (Komi, Schenn pls Franson if the price is right) if they are going for a premium at the deadline than getting a top 4 guy this summer (envisioning Phaneuf, Gunnar, Gardiner & new player as new top 4).
2. Bigger Top 6 (even top 9) forward with hopefully some more offensive talent than whoever they replace would be best.
3. Do it in the offseason.
4. I would prefer to wait and see how Colborne develops
5. I wouldn’t mind seeing some salary space freed up, gives us option to EASILY resign Grabbo depending on how Free agent market develops this summer.
shipping out 2-3 D-men would be completely idiotic, we don’t have the depth to lose three guys and still make the playoffs. Burke won’t do that. If Schenn goes, it’s for a unicorn coming back, and if Komi goes, it’s because Burke found someone willing to part with a 5th round pick to take on that contract (not very likely).
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
If the right deal comes along, I could see Burke adding D in exchange for D, but overall, I’m beginning to feel that no huge deal is coming this year. Lot of decisions are going to be made in the off season, particularly when it comes to who Burke is going to add and/or resign.
And I’m OK with that.
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well, if a huge deal does come, it will be for a top 6 player. I’d consider that more likely thanbig deal for defense.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Why do you dislike Franson.
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Komi – I would take almost anything so see his cap hit off the books
Schenn – I’m not too high on him considering his contract and if you can get a premium player for him or as a package, I would do it. I wouldn’t trade him for a 4th round pick like Komi.
I don’t dislike Franson, I really like him (the pls was for Schenn not Franson – needed a comma) – I would only want to see him move at a premium.
Chara
Hughson and Simpson made an interesting point last night. I can’t remember what Chara looked like when he was younger. Aside from Milbury being an idiot, why did the Islanders deal him? Why did the Sens let him walk? Was he that underwhelming, was he underrated? Was he a rare late bloomer? Thinking about the Future of Schenn and Aulie I’m concerned that they could eventually develop into a similar type player. Obviously Chara is a step above those two, but it’s only really become clear since he has been in Boston.
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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 30, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions
he had 9 points in 82 games with the Islanders as a 24/25 year old
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and was a -27 that season. He had similiar numbers a few years before as well.
by Ben Schnell on Jan 30, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Raise you hands if you thought Chara was gonna be a dominating defenceman when he was with the Islanders?
Anyone?
How about his first few years in Ottawa?
Anyone?
Pre-lockout, Chara was pretty garbage.
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Is there any sort of data about when “shutdown” defensemen like Chara actually start putting up good statistical numbers defensively?
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
he’s not really a shut-down guy. He does play top competition, but he puts up a lot of points too.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Years with the Senators:
2001-2002 75GP 10G 13A 156PIM +30
2002-2003 74GP 9G 30A 116PIM +29
2003-2004 79GP 16G 25A 147PIM +33
Lockout
2005-2006 71GP 16G 27A 135PIM +17
Now, I didn’t spend a lot of time watching Ottawa, but those look like pretty decent stats. I recall, he wanted a bigger contract out of Ottawa than offered so went to free agency.
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I maintain it was because the Islander sucked really badly.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
He literally couldn’t skate when he came into the league.
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reminds me of a certain K. Aulie. No wait, too obvious, let’s call him Keith A. That does give hope.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh. I’ll eat my hat if Aulie turns out to be Chara 2.0
FWIW, I remember Chara in Ottawa and he was good – not great, but probably in their top 2 defense, maybe their best defender.
Chara was very good in his last year of Ottawa. The fact that Ottawa management seemed to pick Redden by default was a blunder. It’s sort of like Tyler Myers vs Luke Schenn: one is dependable, but the other has potential for greatness.
Of course, it didn’t help that Redden then fell of a cliff.
starting in 02-03 he was playing over 24 minutes/gp. That was his breakout year.
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How old was he that year?
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
That should be in a quote box..
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
His second year in Ottawa was where he started to show his true colours and he was 25 that year. That was his breakout year and he never looked back.
Before that I don’t think anyone thought too much of him.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think Chara was the exception – if you are 6’7 and not good when you’re 24, it doesn’t give me a lot of hope you’ll be any better in your career. I think Aulie’s ceiling is Hal Gill at best. Schenn – Don’t know what to say, he’s young I guess? He might turn into Ryan Suter or he might turn into Chris Phillips or he might stay the same.
I know Pronger struggled in Hartford — any idea how long that lasted?
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he looks a lot like schenn early on,
right out of the draft, 81GP 5G 25A 30P 113PM -3
sophmore 43GP 5G 9A 14P 54PM -12
3rd 78GP 7G 18A 25P 110PIM -18
4th 79GP 11G 24A 35P 143PIM +15
5th 81GP 9G 27A 36PT 180PIM +47
then he started to get real good.
the difference is, he’s always been mean with his PIM etc. Wish we could get schenn to be meaner.
Schenn’s stats though:
70GP 2G 12A 14P 71PIM -12
79GP 5G 12A 17P 50PIM +2
82GP 5G 17A 22P 34PIM -7
48GP 1G 12A 13P 37PIM +5
by Ben Schnell on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Well I’d say Schenn is fairly tough/mean, and I’m ok with him not being as dirty of a player as Pronger
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Well I’d say Schenn is fairly tough/mean,
He can lay a good check, but in front of the net, not really.
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Ok so not mean, but I think Schenn is fairly tough physically, with some room for improvement.
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
You can be tough without the meanness, but mean players are usually tough as well. Sort of what was said below, a mean player will make you think twice about battling in the corner or in front of the net with them and that would be great if Schenn could work his way into that. I just don’t see it in him though, he isn’t a mean, hard-nosed guy on the ice like Pronger, Kasparaitis, Hatcher.. Guys like that
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Schenn can be pretty mean
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
That isn’t what we are talking about tho
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if you’re going to get crunched everytime you go into the corner, you think twice.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I care less about the corners and more about the front of the net. They can’t score from the corners but they can 2-4 feet from the blue ice
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well, sometimes you have to go to the corners to get it to the front of the net. Forechecking generates offence, a lot of this happens in the corners. You have to go where the puck goes. Besides, it’s the same guy who fights in the corners who is going to fight in front of the net.
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No one is saying Schenn is good at fighting anywhere or anything, we are saying he’s good at hitting but isn’t mean enough.
Plus one d-man is in the corner and one is in front usually.. Schenn isn’t always going to be in the corner putting people on their asses, he needs to figure out his defensive game in open ice.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
yep. I couldn’t agree more.
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I didn’t read the whole thread until now.
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context always helps
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
pretty damned effective, but he’d probably be more effective with one
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah remember when gleason broke his face last year? the mean streak would only help, I think
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Kulemin didn’t even know he was in a fight
so a mean streak wouldn’t have helped him there, but if he hit more often and gave a little extra oomph with his hits, not just the right amount to dislodge the puck, he would be feared by defenders
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I remember thinking initially Gleason suckered him but rewatching, Kulemin was throwing punches with his gloves on. But if Kulemin went into those corners with more than just getting the puck on his mind, maybe put a few guys into the boards harder than necessary, it wouldn’t hurt..
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Basically he isn’t dirty. I hate to say it, I wish he has a little bit more.
We all hate Komisarek, but more often than not, he is the only defenceman that when someone touches our goalie, he clears the crease hard.
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If he was more willing to take a piece out of a guy in front of the net. He is physical along the boards but he is too passive in front of the net. He got absolutely bullied by Lucic (I believe) in front of the net earlier this year for a goal. There are lots of things he needs to work on but I’d like to see him play stronger and yes, dare I say it, dirtier in front of the net.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger was also young and stupid at the time, and apparently had discipline issues with Hartford. That said, the Whalers got creamed in that trade since all it got them was one season of an unhappy Brendan Shanahan. The best piece that franchise got out of that came two trades later in Rod Brind’Amour- when they were already in Carolina.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’m somehow ok with Aulie turning into Hal Gill… the Leafs could use a younger Hal Gill
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Hal Gill’s had a pretty long an decent career. I’m hoping for more, but we’ll be lucky if we get that
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Gill has over 1000 NHL games. That’s a solid NHL career. We should be ecstatic if Aulie plays 1000 games.
Reminds of everyone who used to cringe at the comparison between Luke Richardson and Luke Schenn. Richardson played 21 seasons in the NHL. That’s a damn fine return for a top 10 pick. If Schenn plays 1400+ games, we should all be over the moon.
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by birky on Jan 30, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused
Are you saying now that longevity is the measuring stick for success in the NHL? I mean, sure, it’s nice that Richardson lasted 21 seasons, but we’re talking about a guy who never scored more than 4 goals throughout his career and cracked the 20 pt mark once (with 21 points). Also (while not the authority on the quality of a player), for the most part, the only years he ever finished on the “+” side of the spectrum was in Philly
My judgement of Richardson may be clouded though, because in hindsight we can see what the players picked up after him turned out to be, but I never saw him as a top shut-down defenseman.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t go that far, but it is a lofty goal
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I was just looking at their stats. Seems like a serious long shot to say the least.
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Meh Gill didn’t play a single NHL game until he was 23. Aulie turns 23 in June of 2012
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just saying, Aulie and Schenn don’t have to turn out to be Suter or Chara… I’ll settle for Hal Gill level
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
he was crazy under rated as a Leaf, everyone here hated him
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I liked him. I think people were disappointed that a player his size didn’t play a more physical game. But that’s just not the kind of player he is and it’s a little unfair to place those kinds of expectations on someone that has never shown any track record of it
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by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I hated him, but I also didn’t know much about hockey then.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
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Schenn lays lots of big hits.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
and is still lousy
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
It took awhile, but I’m glad to have some company in the Schenn sort of isn’t a stud group.
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I still like him.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
guy drives me a bit nuts.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 30, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
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I don’t want to trade him either, though. If that helps.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t support the trade Schenn bandwagon though. Unless the return is going to make either our blueline stronger defensively right now and for at least 4-5 more years or a forward who can put up points and plays a strong physical power forward game and again, will make us better now and for the next 4-5 years at least.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
He hasn’t been great this season, but last year he was showing signs of improving, and defensive d-men take time to develop. I’m not against trading him as part of a package to upgrade at 1C or LD, but trading him just to dump his salary would be dumb.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much
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Do NHLers have a dedicated skating coaches. Taveres had a figure skating coach in the off-season and is much stronger on his skates this year. Not that Schenn or Aulie will ever get that good but a few months with Skinner’s figure skating coach might do wonders for their mobility. The late bloomer Hal Gill path for defenders is through in game learning from mistakes (which we already know leads to years of frustration by fans and the coaching staff).
The Leafs have brought in Derek Popke, in the past, but I’m not sure to what extent, or whether or not there’s someone who talks about skating year round.
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Huh. I thought I was the only member of the Hal Gill fan club when he was here. I honestly think the only reason he was traded is because Fletcher couldn’t trade any of the Muskoka Five and wanted to look like he was doing something.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was good, too. I mainly only agreed with the trade because he wasn’t in the team’s long term plans and it freed him up to go win a Cup in Pittsburgh.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
ah yes, back when I liked the Pens
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Otherwise known as the years they played for the Cup against the f@#$ing Red Wings.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Phillips is an okay NHLer.
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That was a TERRIBLE draft year
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1996
Chris Phillips
Andrei Zyuzin
J.P. Dumont
Alexandre Volchkov
Ric Jackman
Boyd Devereaux
Erik Rasmussen
Johnathan Aitken
Ruslan Salei (RIP)
Lance Ward
Terrible is a massive understatement. Those ten picks have less than 500 NHL goals combined.
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Now compare those with just the top two (or three) picks of the 2004 draft… and these guys have had an 8 year head-start!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
no.75 – Zenith Komarniski
What’s the complete opposite of zenith, because that’s what this draft was.
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, just went back to look and realized that from 1992 through 1996, Ottawa’s only picks that weren’t 1st overall were in ’92 and ’94 (2nd and 3rd, respectively). So they never picked outside of the top 3 until 1997. With all those picks you would have tought that their “window” would have been open somwhere between 2000 and 2004 (approx.). Made me warm inside to think of what the fate of their seasons were for most of those years. :D :D
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Drafting was pretty bad across the board in the late 90s.
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Scouting was non existant then.
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Unless you were the Red Wings, because everybody knows that they had an amazing scouting department who brilliantly picked up “rose among the thorns” Lidstrom and Datsyuk.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
How much is true or not, I read stories on there scouting team and the reason they picked Lidstrom so late was because they knew no one had any idea who he was
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It was cool though after they won the cup in ‘98 when I realized that one of their scouts for south-western Ontario lived on my paper route (the Record). I was delivering the paper one day in July when I happened to look in their backyard and see the Cup on a table with tons of people around. I don’t even remember if I finished delivering the paper that day. I ran home (cutting through several backyards) grabbed a camera and came back to take pictures. Very special day.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Duuude I think I know who you are talking about actually… Or at least knew of him. My best friends dad knew him and pointed him out a few times when he ran into him.
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, and later in the day, I believe Maltby came by to pick up the cup and have his day with it (in Guelph?).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
yeah in waterloo! Its my friend from high school’s dad!
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yeah in waterloo! Its my friend from high school’s dad!
Sucker, I was goading you on to see if you’d just confirm what I ask. It was actually in Kitchener.
JK, JK… it was in Waterloo, in the Westvale area. It was a great day, as I remember, because it was also the same day the Leafs signed CuJo (who was already my favorite goalie in the league by then).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
they knew no one had any idea who he was
This may be true (and is true of many picks), but I don’t think they even knew what they got. They didn’t even know who he was.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Like, in 1995…have you ever seen three defensemen go top 3 overall? And how in hell was Aki Berg one of them?!
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you dare talk ill of Aki Berg! Aki was a saint!
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well at the time he was Aki Pteri-Berg, so maybe changing the name made him lose a little of the magic.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
He developed pretty damn slowly (which isn’t that rare for players his size). But his development curve isn’t the rule either.
In regards to Ottawa letting him walk there are a couple theories the largest 2 are:
1-They couldn’t afford him and Redden, so they chose Redden
2-Chara didn’t like how they resigned Hossa (his friend) and then traded him within a couple months and didn’t trust them/wasn’t interested in returning.
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I’m not sure, but I heard, there were big questions about his skating. He was more “lumbering” than “elite” at the time.
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure what Watters is trying to say here...
Here is one to smoke on.Please do not inhale .From CBJ,Nash & Huselius,From TORGrabovski, Schenn, Kadri and Komisarek.1st time Nash involved
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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 30, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I heard that last week, and it doesnt make sense because CBJ is a cap team and the salaries would not work out.
I think he’s saying you can get high off that though because its farfetched.
At least I hope he is.
by Ben Schnell on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe its a cigar? OR its Bill CLinton
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Maybe he’s suggesting he’s just blowing smoke out his ass?
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t understand – is the Eric Staal trade still on hold? I thought Burke’s trade freeze was over.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
@Darren Dreger
A couple of sketchy trade rumours out there. Can tell you the Leafs, according to Burke have never discussed Nash trade…“Ever.”
by ChrisFromParadise on Jan 30, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
they have probably discussed the possibility, when burke says something like that, to me it sounds like there was never anything more than tire kicking going on
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Due Dilligence
“Hey, Rey. Thinking about trading Malkin yet? No? Oh well. I’ll try you again tomorrow, buddy. Stay truculent.”
by MrSmithy on Jan 30, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rey Shero (to his wife): Hey Y’landa! Some dude name’ Brian Burke called claiming to be in charge of some ‘er hockey team somewhere up’er in Canadia. Asked if I be reckoning to trade him some guy named Malkin. Hung up and told him to n’er call’ere again! Those dang telemarketers!
Ray Shero (in Pittsburgh): Burke’s been calling me constantly asking for Geno, got sick of him and gave him the number to some guy named Rey Shero in backwoords kentucky (audible snickers).
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
What is the likelihood that Burke lets one or more of our forwards go during the summer in order to bring some of our young talent in as a permanent spot?
Who goes? who comes up?
At least it's not Lebda.
I really dont think Clark MacArthur is on the team next year. I know he isnt a UFA, I really think he will be dealt
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Yeah i could see Mac gone
Grabbo due to UFA
I don’t think Burke wants both Armstrong and Lombardi are with the team next year although contracts and injuries might mean they both stay
I don't think anyone takes Armstrong's contract unless bad salary comes back
Lombardi for a pick could happen. Wonder if NSH wants him back now that he’s healthy?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I would put money on Burke not losing grabbo for nothing
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Because he’s staying.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Please Burke, Don’t trade Grabbo!
by Jack rides ducks on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THANK-YOU-GREG-PATERYN
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Question
How come Lupul and Kessel are both still listed as having 52 and 51 points on the NHL stats page. I know for a fact that Lupul picked up two goals last night in the ASG and Kessel had one?!?!?!
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions
anti-Leafs bias
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, it’s be a slow few days for (Leafs) hockey. Wanted to see if anybody would bite.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic, but when I was visiting Toronto this weekend, I found out that my brother and his fiancee live in the same building as Jonas Gustavsson. It was awesome seeing him.
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That’s pretty cool. I met Jonas too, this summer when I was working at a private golf club. He and a few other Leafs came to play. Surprisingly, Phil said a lot more than Jonas did. So much for the awkwardness.
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Ughh
Who exactly is Jack Todd’s target audience? Does he even have any by this point?
(Found it on PD)
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions
Note: The Gazette apologizes for previously posting an unedited version of this column.
Ah yes, because the one article you happen to post without editing also happens to be one calling Tim Thomas a racist. Right, big coincidence there.
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I’m pretty sure the Gazette doesn’t proof read ANY articles sooo…
Hey someone wrote something I’m sure its cool… wait why are people mad at us now?
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
What a clustercuss of an article. He got paid to write that. Like with money. Real, actual legal tender. That’s mind boggling.
The First Certified Grabbo Lover
I wouldn’t even have paid Canadian Tire money for that.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I always forget to bring that stuff when I go to buy something ALWAYS.
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&&&&&&&&&& that’s an example of horrible writing.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
It looks as though he wrote it on his BB or smart phone and then pasted it onto the net. This blog has comments that are better formatted than that story.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
It was like being in middle school again.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
huh.
nhl_canes Carolina Hurricanes
The Canes have signed defenseman Tim Gleason to a four-year, $16 million extension: carhur.com/cre
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Not an awful $ figure. Thought for sure he’d be traded. Guess the offers sucked.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
High standards:
DownGoesAvery Down Goes Avery
@
@JapersRink Rutherford was reportedly asking for a high-end prospect and a 1st round pick. Gleason was not going anywhere anyway.
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now at least we know what the price on Schenn may be
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That’s a lot for Gleason. You’d have to be pretty sure you’re set for a deep playoff run to even consider that.
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Right. We know it wont be that.
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as Chemmy would say….“tea in china. all of it”.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, Skinny says that
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I remember Nieuwendyk asking for something stupid for pending UFA Brad Richards as well.
He wanted like 3 high-end prospects from NYR. Oops.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
The lineup is around the block for Spacek! Maybe they can get Kaberle back
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Signed to be dealt?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
The Winnipeg Jets today announced they have traded forward Akim Aliu to the Calgary Flames for defenceman John Negrin.
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Strictly an AHL trade
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Akim Aliu is the guy Steve Downie hazed in Windsor.
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That’s probably all he’ll ever be remembered for at this rate
Professional cusser causer.
by T is for Truculence on Jan 30, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting thing about Akim Aliu: He was born in Nigeria, but his mother tongue is Russian because his parents moved to Ukraine shortly after he was born.
So he’s a Nukrainian?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Akim Aliu was the power forward prospect that was traded in the Byfuglien traded (Morin went the other way). I thought then and think now that Morin is the better prospect.
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
They got Akim Aliu from CHI in that big multi-player trade that landed Chicago Jeremy Morin. I think.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
yep… It was either the Ladd or Buff trade can’t remember which…
by WizardofNaz on Jan 30, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
ALIUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. Getting wasted at Knights games and yelling that whenever he touched the puck was fun, but I forgot he existed.
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William of Nassau am I, of Dutch blood. Loyal to the fatherland I will remain until I die.
In subsequent news, 346 Negrin Jets jerseys have already been sold.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
by Learn2Leaf on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TheWinnipeg JetsSt. John’s IceCaps today announced they have traded forward Akim Aliu to theCalgary FlamesAbbotsford Heat for defenceman John Negrin.
Fixed.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Boy the first three games back are so important for our positioning. Two PIT one OTT. If we can split the PIT series and win against OTT I will be very very happy.
Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.
I’d be happier to win all three but beggars cant be choosers. Gotta beat Ottawa if just so I dont have to put up with all the Sens fans here.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Now we don’t have to send you to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
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by Bower Power on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, did you get the memo about the new cover sheets for the TPS reports?
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it feels good to be a gangster.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
PC Load letter? What the fuck is that?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Great Movie
Now feel free to sit and listen to the radio at a reasonable volume.
I've got 99 problems and they're all hyperdimensional self-replicating machine elves.
I watched Blazing Saddles for the first time last Thursday.
I will stand beside him with an axe! @theninjagreg
by theninjagreg on Jan 30, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
please tell me it was horrible so I never have to watch it.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
If he said it was terrible, you’d still have to watch it, and he’d just be wrong.
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I’ve never seen such a movie put on such a high pedestal as Blazing Saddles around here
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Of course, you’ll have the good taste not to mention that I stopped by?
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Yeah but you put Fight Club on weird pedestal so…
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
.
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because its that friggen awesome
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
A decent look at the rest of the games for the Leafs from the Star
http://www.thestar.com/article/1123576—toronto-maple-leafs-road-map-to-93-points-and-a-playoff-spot
We have to do better than 1-1-1 in the next 3 games. 2-1, or more plausibly 2-0-1 would be real nice.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think I figured it out that the leafs need to win 4/7 from here on out. Someone else suggested they need to treat every 7 games like a best-of-seven playoff series.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wish we could get on a roll. I mean, Anaheim can go 8-1-1, how about we do it?
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Our team can only be mildly streaky. The bad news is that we can’t seem to win more than 4 in a row, though the good news is we’ve yet to lose more than 3 in a row.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
It’s true, we’ve been consistently inconsistent, so at least we’re not consistently losing/winning like some teams. Still, I’d like for us to go on a tear so I dont have to drink heavily during games right to the end of the season
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It’s weird. Four in a row has been where the Leafs max out for years now.
I've got 99 problems and they're all hyperdimensional self-replicating machine elves.
But, on the bright side, we haven’t lost more than three in a row all season. That’s a first in some time. Hell, there’s only been one stretch (Jan. 13-17) where we’ve lost three in a row, all in regulation.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
My issue is there are games we are losing in regulation that we should be able to get to overtime. The past Ottawa game comes to mind (3-2, IIRC?) and there are a few others. Those are precious points.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think I said that. It was a strategy the Flames used in 2003-04 during the season. I think it’d be a pretty effective mindset for the Leafs here.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not bad predictions overall. But, I think the Leafs can take the game against Calgary to go 2-1 on the Western Canada trip.
by gettingcozywithsarkozy on Jan 30, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that seems a little optimistic. need to find a way to win 1 or 2 more games along the way. winning a game against the Pens tomorrow would be a nice start.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
and now, folks, i bring you my 10,000th comment:
GO LEAFS GO!
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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
Only your 9,919th on PPP.
Useless comments since 2009.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
c’est la vie.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
woooo base 10 numbers!
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Boooooo.
LETS GO binary LETS GO
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Nice one.
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
fuck I think I literally hit a wall now that its my 23rd bday
I believe I am suffering my first ever 2 day hangover
Hit a wall on your 23rd?
Man up moose
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To be fair I also don’t remember what happened Saturday night. All I know is cleaning up yesterday there was 3 24’s worth of empties and an almost empty 26 of tequila that was brand new, and never knew I opened it. That was before the bars.
I didn’t get arrested or get any noticeable injuries so overall a good night I’ll assume
I usually look for a doorway.
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by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless you have a portal gun
Finally got twitter...@mapleleafmjt
by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
happy birthday?
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
A couple of sketchy trade rumours out there. Can tell you the Leafs, according to Burke have never discussed Nash trade…“Ever.”
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Of course not
he’s still getting Bobby Ryan, sillies.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
This tweet seems unnecessary.
So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil
deflates stupid rumours i guess. credibility later on when they talk about rumours, who knows?
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shooting down rumours is like 20% of Dreger’s job. Especially around silly season.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how Watters feels getting shot down by his old colleague Dregar. Wtf is Watters on anyway/
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares, and maybe if he didn’t want to get shot down he shouldn’t be making bullshit up in the first place.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
well yea, id agree with that.
I just dont remember watters being a BS rumour monger. He used to deal with Dregar everyday on Leafs Lunch, you’d think he’d know better.
I guess hes that desperate for attention now that he doesnt have any platform to work from
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Weak attempt to stay relevent.
His sources are his dog.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
The confusing part is that he prefaces his tweet saying that the rumour he is about to spit out requires you to be high to beleive it.
anyway, enough about that
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
and with there being fake twitter accounts in his name.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think Nash and Carter are too old for this Leafs team – I’d think Ruutu or Staal might be the target for Burke – fits with his M.O. with reclamation projects and underachievers.
Carter is the same age as Phaneuf
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All are either awful choices or not worth the assets they’d cost.
Pass on all.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really like Carter.
How come I get shit on for suggesting Brad Richards (for 0 assets) but people are delighted to jump on a 10 year contract for a guy 4 years younger? Still past his prime, still paying him to 37.
That doesn’t scream “huge package for Carter” to me
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
We get his age 27-32 years at a very reasonable (on a 5yr deal open market he could get 6+per) price. That fits in very well with our current “window”
….and then 5 more years at 5.27 million while he declines.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
at which point we don’t know what the CBA is like, what the team is like, how much that is in comparison to the salary cap and most of all what the trade market would be like.
See, I go the opposite way. We don’t know what the CBA will be – very true. But it could really harm us to tie down money and term on a guy for 10 years. If he were 23, I’d be all for it. But he’s 27. I would rather keep grabbo at least money and term given their age to give us flexibility, to be honest. If we get a unicorn, I want them to be young-ish – 25 and less.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps if you stopped gadding about, dressed as a toilet?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Carter is the perfect age. He’s in/entering his prime on a young team coming into its own that sits in the middle of its conference. Perfect home.
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Oh boy I hope we throw several 1st round picks to get him!
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think Carter is a good fit too, but how much would you give up for him, especially considering the length of his contract? Like, would you give up as much as Columbus trade to Philly to land him this summer?
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Would you give up Kadri and a 1st for Carter?
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Honest, I don’t know. Feel like we’re willing to throw 1sts around like candy a lot more than other teams.
If we were on the cusp, i.e. Philly/Det/NYR, sure.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I dont want to see any 1sts going at all really…
This team isnt a cup contender. Stick to building through the draft. Develop players from within. Grow as a unit over a long period of time.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Just saying because 1st and Kadri is pretty comparable to 1st and Vorachek
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Ya… but that 1st was Couturier in the original scenario.
Of course PHI/CBJ didn’t know that at the time…
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
No more trading 1sts. Not unless we’re getting a young player with lots of upside in return (ie. another Kessel). I like Jeff Carter, but 27 year old Jeff Carter doesn’t have the same value as 21 year old Phil Kessel.
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Flip side: Would you take that as a GM, after you gave up more for the player?
Pension Plan Puppets
I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
I can’t believe their GM still has a job.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone believes its a forgone conclusion he’s gone at the end of the year so why wait? Same with the Habs.
I’d do what the Leafs did. Fire your GM now bring in a stopgap like Fletcher who isn’t really interested in having the job long term, but you know can still do a good job and let him set the table till the offseason when you can conduct a proper search.
Except that, in hindsight, Fletcher didn’t do such an awesome job in the interim ($3.5m for Finger, Stempniak trade, etc.)
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
True, but still it’s not as if he really helped the Leafs much (if at all)
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
He did great things… he held the fort down decently until Burke could be brought in (everyone knew they were waiting for him) and didn’t let JFJ shoot the team in the foot yet again.
At worst, Fletcher didn’t sacrifice the future to try to win now and hold onto his own job, since he knew from the beginning that he was just there for the interim. Left in place, JFJ might have gotten increasingly desperate and short-sighted.
I had high hopes for Fletcher second go around as GM after that steal of trade for Gilmour and hiring Pat Burns.
you really thought Cliff was going to roll in as GM 18 years after the Gilmour trade and just do it all over again? We had to wait for Burke to do that
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t Burke say Fletch put together the Dion trade? or was it Nonis and Fletch did the Giggy trade?
Nonis probably did both
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Stempniak trade was brutal. I thought it sucked at the time and it still sucks. I liked Steen.
I've got 99 problems and they're all hyperdimensional self-replicating machine elves.
Somehow JFJ resisted trading Steen.
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
he was too busy trading 1sts and 930 goaltenders
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
He brought in the goalie who went on to win the most games ever in a single season for the Leafs
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
He brought in the goalie who went on towin the most games everbe terrible, yet not have anyone good enough to take his spot, so despite being god awful he had the chance to be in net while the team over powered his short comings and won him the most games in a single season for the Leafs
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
37W in 72 games
Belfour did it in 64 (or was it 66?)
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I loved pre-lockout Belfour. He wouldn’t take shit from any player in front of him. Just turn your stick into a hook and take out their legs.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly… you can’t be proud about setting franchise record for wins when you also lost 35 games… It just means you played almost every night.
What if you take out the first 13 games though?
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
If I was Howson, not a chance. You know Carter will waive his NTC, so why take that, wait for a better offer
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LA needs scoring. Columbus needs a goaltender. Something around Carter for Bernier.
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
Does LA need another center? Not really. Carter would have to play wing
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Mike Richards and Jeff Carter reunion tour!
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Come on, those 2 in LA, what could go wrong?
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LeBrun said that Carter wants out of Columbus and apparently Howson wants to move him, so I doubt they’re getting full value back.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Shocking
Carter wants out of Columbus
I wonder if he’ll appreciate the next team a bit more after seeing how bad it could get.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
considering how much he sulked when he got traded there
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Hahaha
1st hit when I google “what to do in Columbus Ohio”
http://in-and-around-columbus.com/things-to-do-in-columbus-ohio.html
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Though to be fair, the Columbus Zoo is pretty awesome. It’s run by Jack Hannah.
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Then WTF is Carter complaining about?
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
They’re bird section is awesome. Giant fenced in areas for vultures and eagles to free fly in built alongside a cliff.
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Hell if I was a NHL player in Columbus I’d spend every day walking around the Zoo with a bottle of booze in a brown paper bag. Go make friends with the otters or something.
otters rule
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Greg McKegg would say otherwise..
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
They stink.. that probably explains the face
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
best exhibit at the Monterrey Aquarium
by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Is it otterly adorable?
Useless comments since 2009.
by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 30, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
/groans
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Considering that Columbus is moving a pretty shitty contract, they may have to take some lousy cap back.
If only there were a defenseman making less than his cap hit…
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It's funny how un-shitty that contract looked a year ago.
Philly goggles look different than Columbus goggles.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
If he was UFA and that was the contract they had to sign to land him?
Sure.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Carter got traded for Vorachek, a 1st (the 8th), and a 3rd.
I’d say an equivalent would be Kadri, Schenn, and a 4th.
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I think that’s too much. I’m fine with moving one of Kadri or Schenn to bring in a top line player, but this team isn’t so close to winning the Cup that we can just be throwing former top 10 picks out the window. If we trade Kadri AND Schenn, combined with the Kessel deal that Leafs will have given away 4 consecutive years of 1st round picks and potentially not even made the playoffs once since then.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
No way I make that trade. None. Rather keep the first and the young players and keep building up that depth, make deals or signings in the off-season.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
….signed for 10 years, meaning if he ever drops off there’s no way we can move that boat anchor. Unless the cap keeps going up.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
why do we want Ruutu if Nash and Carter are too old? Ruutu is older and shittier
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ruutu is truculence and not a unicorn
"They build a statue, they knock it down and piss on it, and now they will be out there building it again."
by ThickSkinnedAlive on Jan 30, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
where does he go? who do we trade for him? will he make the leafs a playoff team?
no idea. too much. no.
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not a Unicorn, but not a bad Fwd to add for a contender.
His numbers look similar to grabbo’s TBH.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think Ruutu will be a good depth addition to a contender, like Peverley was for Boston last year. Doesn’t make any sense for the Leafs.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Less than none.
Negative Sense.
JFJ level nonsense.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
V.v.V
lateral movies like a crab up in this bitch!
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Henny
Leafs about to practise today at 2. Today might be the 1st time this season that the complete roster is actually healthy.
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Calling it now, Connolly gets injured in practice.. team no longer healthy
/knockonwood
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m 74% sure this comment made him hurt his ankle or something
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
So… for tomorrows game. Assuming JML and Armdog are back in… what are we looking at?
Lupul – Bozak – Kessel
MacCarthur – Grabovski – Kulemin
Lombardi – Connolly – Kadri
Crabb – Steckel – Armstrong
Gunnarsson – Phaneuf
Liles – Komisarek
Gardiner – Schenn/Franson
Gustavsson
Reimer
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Personally I would drop Crabb for Brown
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its sad that Armstrong is now a $3m 4th liner.
Do you put Army up on the 3rd and scratch a Lombardi? Or send down kadri?
Even Joey Crabb has played well enough to make scratching him a tough choice
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the contract isn’t great… but man that 4th line is nice… got a nice fourst line there
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Poor Joey Crabb, fifth on the team in (even strength) G/60 and Pts/60 and he still gets pressboxed.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
His Heart/60 is through the roof, but his skill/60 normalized is NHL/AHL tweener
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
His GCI/60 is the highest in the league, though. Doesn’t that count for anything anymore?
GCI = GChat Icons
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I am convinced more people like Crabb because of the v.V.v. rather than his actual on ice ability
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I do like that he's a 4th liner who has the balls to try some fierce dangles in the opposition zone.
Of course I’d rather have skill, but for a 4th liner, 8 goals, on pace for 15 on the year? That’s pretty decent.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I like his PK ability and the fact that he can move up in the lineup if injury necessitates it.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn’t do a lot of things that fans hate – he’s limited only by his talent level.
But for ~700k, perfect 4th liner. Him and BrownBeaut.
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by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m good with any combination of Boyce/Brown/Crabb and Steckel as our 4th line.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
his hands are way better then I thought and he finishes his checks often. He skates well. I think hes perfect on our 4th line right now
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E"
by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Or does Mike Brown knock someone out (literally or figuritively, you decide)
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by Matt_Roberts on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kadri is the only one who is waiver ineligible. I would send down Rosehill, but Burke may have a different opinion
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No point sending down Rosehill just to have Kadri sit in the pressbox
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by Chi-town leafs on Jan 30, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree send Rosehill down, but that does nothing to free up a spot in the actual lineup just the pressbox.
Basically you have to sit on of Kadri, Crabb, Brown and Lombo. Of the 4 Kadri is the only one who could be easily sent to Marlies to keep all 4 getting icetime.
I’m also thinking in terms of IR as Armstrong is coming off, same with Liles. So potentially two guys have to go.
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Send Kadri down – he’ll be back up within a couple ofweekshours most likely.
….given I don’t believe our boneitis has been cured.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking Connolly was due for an injury soon.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
All Wrong
Burke trades some one before this becomes a problem
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think there is a next trade in the next 24 minutes
#nostradamus
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, you realize that when you’re wrong, you’re banned.
/riskyouhadtotake?
I shot a moose once, in upstate New York.
by not norm ullman on Jan 30, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve got to risk it to get the biscuit.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Damn
my Mayan pre-cog machine must be broken.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Because Lupul and Kessel arent at practice
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DavidAlter590 David Alter
#leafs lines Boyce-Bozak-Armstrong, MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin, Lombardi-Connolly-Kadri, Crabb-Steckel-Brown, Allstars given day off
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Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
Kulemin-Grabovski-Macarthur
Kadri-Connolly-Lombardi
Brown-Steckel-Armstrong
Phaneuf-Gunnar
Komisarek-Liles
Schenn-Franson
Reimer/Gustavsson
drools
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Is that cap compliant?
About time that people finally realized how awesome Gunnar is...
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My new goal: To get the nickname Hebrew Hammer for Mike Brown to take off.
lolno
HennyTweets Paul Hendrick
Ron wilson says he doesn’t expect either liles, armstrong or boyce to play tuesday night…wednesday is a possibility.#leafs
jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Liles and Armstrong unlikely to play in either of next two games. Of the two, Armstrong more likely to return.
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stick strangeness
Here’s Phaneuf taping an Easton stick: http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?server=616&filename=wltjm.jpg&res=iphone
Here’s Phaneuf with a CCM stick after the game: http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?server=740&filename=qw7mx.jpg&res=iphone
Kessel w/ Easton stick: http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg576/scaled.php?server=576&filename=8nnhra.jpg&res=iphone
Kessel w/ Bauer stick: http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg740/scaled.php?server=740&filename=qw7mx.jpg&res=iphone
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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.
That’s not Phaneuf’s stick in the 2nd photo. It’s a rightie and he’s a leftie. Looks like he misplaced his and just grabbed one for the photo shoot. I also recall him using the Easton in the hardest shot competition.
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Looks post-game. Maybe all-stars trade sticks like soccer players do with jerseys? I donno.
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
if Cribs has taught me anything its that hockey players keep other players sticks as mementos
Avery and Scott Thornton had a tone
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah my grandpa has a farm and our neighbour is Aaron Downey. He turned an old barn into a gym/man-cave and he has two collections. framed jerseys+pictures of guys he fought and sticks from players around the league
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
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Tough to finish 30 Thoughts when Roadhouse is on
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I just expect it will come tuesday evening and I’m rarely disappointed, even if it used to be mondays.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Roadhouse is one of the best films of all time in terms of cheesiness and unintentional comedy.
If I open a pub it’ll be called the Double Deuce. Or the Double Daoustce.
That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/learned-toronto-league-most-intriguing-second-half-team-144544090.html
Another good article about Toronto and the rest of the season
SeanFitz_Gerald SeanFitz_Gerald
Leafs forward Colby Armstrong (concussion) says he is “close” to returning to the lineup. Would not get more specific on just how “close.”
And Liles is still “day-to-day” with what he says felt more like a neck injury more than a concussion.
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Jonas Gustavsson will start in goal for the Leafs tomorrow.
rabble rabble rabble.
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no surprise. lets hope he plays well enough for the win, but not so well that RW wants to start him again on Wednesday.
then hopefully awesome Reimer shows up on Wednesday.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Lets hope he wins and then whoever starts Wednesday wins
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yes. that. but in all likelihood long term we’re going to be better off with Reimer being the regular starter. something needs to happen to make RW realize this.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
7-6 Leafs in regulation
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
that or 7-0 Leafs. For, as we all know, Gus either shuts the door or lets in 3+.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
follow up
Monster will start in goal tomorrow vs #pens, Wilson will make a decision for Wednesday’s starter based on that game #leafs
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,
Hear that? That's the sound of "leaf fans" scuffling to get back on the bandwagon.
by Saucepass on Jan 30, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
The Dion mask looks so confused.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 30, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how optimistic I can be about our playoff chances. We have three more games against Philadelphia and two more against Boston. That’s five losses.
And our record in division is really bad, but let’s say it can improve.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily for you there’s only 9 teams in contention. So really you just need to suck less than one other bubble team.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Yes luckily the east is close this year. But it means those division points count quite a bit, especially when we give up 4 to the likes of Buffalo.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, 5-10-0 is nothing to write home about. Even if you omit Boston, it’s still 5-6-0. We’ve pissed away some games to division rivals we shouldn’t have.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve pissed away some games to division rivals we shouldn’t have.
This has been the most infuriating thing for me this season.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
2-1-0 vs. Montreal is our only winning record; and while we should’ve won that game, I can live with 2-1. But, 2-2 vs. Buffalo? 1-3 vs. Ottawa? What IS this shit?
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Losing those two games to Buffalo was really a fucking waste.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
How could anybody be more upset about losing to Buffalo twice than to losing to Ottawa three times? Buffalo should be a decent team, but they suck for some reason. Ottawa is an absolutely brutal team.
Donny, please.
by scrambles the death dealer on Jan 30, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I’m trying to resist that temptation. There’s still lots of hockey to be played, and who knows we could swing a big deal or simply improve our play. I just know if we’re still in this spot come Feb 28th, I will definitely be more pessimistic.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Is that even possible?
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
more pessimism! I’m sure you can do it, you just need to focus your efforts
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
If we’re tied for 7th in the conference in a month you’ll be pessimistic? That’s more or less where I expect the team to be.
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by Draglikepull on Jan 30, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
and the Leafs have a game in hand on others too
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
It’s true. it’s just that I am a trained pessimist. I’d love for the team to prove me wrong.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
The road forward isn’t easy – but it may not be for the teams we have to beat either.
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Might as well not even play them
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An interesting profile on CHL forwards in their age 20 season, by Dellow.
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Pretty graphs of season fenwick/goal ratio/zone start at arctic ice from 2008 to 2011 for all NHL players. I seem to recall that cheapshot (?) produced a similar chart before xmas for a few leafs. Still waiting for this years charts.
by jeffgm on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I did, but it was a lot of hands on work because I suck at scripts
Jesus where did behindthenet find this, Bloomberg?
Ticker: PHILKESSEL
No no, dig UP stupid.
by nhlcheapshot on Jan 30, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
From Bower Power on Twitter
New Greg McKegg headshot.
Look at that fucking hair!
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Ooooh, that one was a duster.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
The hair. The smirk. Everything.
McKegg is clearly living down to his headshot draft potential.
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lettuce rejoice
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by happiergilmore on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
thems some taylor hall lips
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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 30, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
“Yeah, I have 22 points in 11 games. What about it?”
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Someone mentioned the “last 30 games of the season” and I had a little sad. I mean, yeah, this is when it gets good, but also: =(
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are you kidding?
August is when the arguments REALLY heat up. Like, which AHL D-man should we call up first when our first 3 D go down? And, should Kadri play on the 2nd or 3rd line?
We solve all problems forever. Shit gets real.
Move along. Nothing to see here...
by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 30, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
eh, the middle weeks of august it dies a lot. Late June/early July spent rosterbating with UFAs.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
choosing goats for the coming season can be fun.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 30, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that usually happened early september….start picking goats, guessign which prospects could make the team, etc.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ah the whole goddamn summer just bleeds together as one horrible nightmare.
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by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 30, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well given our UFA signings, we mostly hope for Burke to not do much. Although talking prospects is always fun in June.
by Goosemonster on Jan 30, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
You guys are all gonna miss me when I’m gone for a few weeks at the end of July
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I wouldn’t say I’ve been missing it, Bob.
by Nigel Cadbury on Jan 30, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Now we had a chance to meet this young man, and boy that’s just a straight shooter with upper management written all over him.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 30, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say on an average day, I do about 15 minutes of actual, solid work.
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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
The thing is, Bob, it’s not that I’m lazy, it’s that I just don’t care.
At least it's not Lebda.
by Nifty Mittens on Jan 30, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention Chaim Weisswasser comes out of he cornfield in an attempt to sue us for mentioning him.
TWEET AT ME BRO
DAAAAA BLOG
Leaf fan for life! (No, really. They gave me a no-trade clause when I was born.)
by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 30, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thank god for the Cheim Weiswasser’s of the world.
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts.
by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 30, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
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