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Jets vs. Leafs: Let's try this again.

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Puck drops: 7:00
TV: LeafsTV, TSN (if you're in Winnipeg)

The Winnipeg Jets will be sans Dustin Byfuglian tonight, which is good news for the Toronto Maple Leafs, but for their part, the Leafs will be without Mike Komisarek, Tyler Bozak, John-Michael Liles, and Colby Armstrong, among others. Let's hope that the call-ups are going to play like stay-ups tonight.

More, after the jump.

Star-divide

In other news, Ron Wilson is going a little crazy:

"Right now, I think the Monster gives us as good a chance to win (as James Reimer does)," coach Ron Wilson said after Leafs' practice on Wednesday.

"As long as he is winning, he is going to keep playing. If Reims goes in there and he gets hot, he is going to play. We need to win games."

As per James Mirtle, expect the Leafs' lines to look just as they did against Tampa. As a side note, doesn't it feel nice to have some actual depth to this team? The Leafs have several players that can now (more or less adequately) fill the third line center position. Matthew Lombardi seems the most likely candidate tonight, but it wouldn't be terrible to throw Nazem Kadri in there in a pinch. Oh, and then of course, there's David Steckel, who has been a third and fourth line tweener all year because of his skill on the dot.

Although it's already been pointed out, the Jets are coming off a 7-3 loss, and the Leafs are coming off a 7-3 win. This might have some people worried, but the truth is, teams that get blown out don't actually come back and win with any greater frequency than normal. In fact, given the Jets' poor road record (5-9-4), and the Leafs' relatively good home record (9-5-4), I'd give the Buds the edge in this one.

Go Leafs Go!

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GO LEAFS GO

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by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:11 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Brilliance

That’s why the man got a contract extension.

by GoldenFrank on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, is this some sort of goal-scoring competition?

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The objective of this game is to push that puck past the goalie and into that rectangular net more times than the other guys?

Who knew?

If I bled any more blue, you'd think I wasn't human.

by Adrian O on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

also: anyone going to the game please use “Atlantapeg” within earshot of any Jets fans at he ACC.I have a sneaking suspicion they’d be band wagoners in Toronto.

One way lima beans defend themselves is by emitting a chemical warning system against spider mites (which eat lima beans) that attracts predators of spider mites, which then in turn defends the lima beans

by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Hey, anyone of you stats guys know where i could get a timeline of every shot that happens in a game + the time that is happened at? I’ve been looking around but am not good with stats so I don’t think I’m looking in the right place.

by TheCeej on Jan 5, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Easy.

http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/PL020575.HTM

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by JP Nikota on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks JP. Pretty sure I checked Play by Play but must not have looked at it close enough.

by TheCeej on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Still don’t know why Gustavsson is getting the start over Reimer, but what really bugs me is LeafsTV again!

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

But yeah, this:

“Right now, I think the Monster gives us as good a chance to win (as James Reimer does),” coach Ron Wilson said after Leafs’ practice on Wednesday.

Do people truly believe this?

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

Not followin' @JPNikota on Twitter? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.

by JP Nikota on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Gustavsson getting the start on the basis of a 3-goal, .875 evening is dumb.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Using save % on a per game basis is not really a good method. Gus played well last game. He deserves to start

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by leafer1984 on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it really any dumber than saying ‘Gustavsson gives us just as good a chance to win as Reimer’ based on one start?

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by JP Nikota on Jan 5, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely not, I agree. However, Gustavsson won his last start, Reimer lost his last 3. Gotta give Gustavsson the start this game.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wins

aren’t a predictor of future success for a goaltender – ES SV% is and Reimer’s is better than Gustavsson’s.

Reimer losing 3 games in a row doesn’t mean much. He was better in his last 2 starts (62 of 69 = .899) than Gus was in his last 2 (52 of 60 = .867).

Btw both have been crappy recently.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw both have been crappy recently.

There’s the rub. I think Wilson is hedging his bets and going with the guy that hasn’t stunk as recently.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

WHY REIMER NO BE CLUTCH LIEK LAST YEAReleven

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

FUCK GIONTA

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

can you fault him really on any of those goals?

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you really say he earned the start over Reimer?

I’d say that Reimer has been struggling lately, but I expect Reimer to be able to play through that, and give us at least competent goaltending. I won’t say the same for Gus.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 5, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

but then you also have to bring in how Reimer got a bunch of starts fresh off his injury after Gus had earned said starts

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

To me, it’s Reimer’s job to lose and he hasn’t lost it yet. He should be starting.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

the team lost the job for him,still let gus run with it

by hardfoot57 on Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, after December, I’m starting to. And I have never been a huge Gus fan.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

For some reason the Leafs score more with Gus in net. Also I think the PK is better.

Situations fucked yo.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll take Reimer’s ES SV%, though.

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by Frag on Jan 5, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs should become the first team to have a “goalie bullpen” and bring in Gus for the PK.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 5, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

the team scoring more

with Gus in net has nothing to do with Gus being in net.

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm."

- Sir Winston Churchill

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.

by Steve Burtch on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's not over-react here.

It’s not like when he started Giggy last year against the panthers down the stretch for no reason.

And the beat goes on, yeah and the beat goes on, yeah. -MMRS

by GoldenFrank on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that we dont have a no swearing rule

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by leafer1984 on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would we?

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

fucked if I know

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of other SBN sites do. Fuck its fuckin shitty to be there

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by leafer1984 on Jan 5, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatre they scared of words? Think someones going to be offended by fuck or shit? We just talk like regular people here. We put down anyone whos out of order.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

but the children! somebody think of the children!

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by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Sex Cauldron?

I think they closed that place down.

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 5, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a polite no-names-mentioned talking to about that on Raw Charge last night. And on the Nashville Predos site a while back. Maybe a couple others.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Some words scare me.

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Naw, that just makes me squeemish.

More like “prolapse”.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

oh Jebus

can we institute a “no Prolapse” rule?

by allday28 on Jan 5, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And those blogs average 7 comments per post. 6 of which say “Nice article, keep up the good work.”

And the beat goes on, yeah and the beat goes on, yeah. -MMRS

by GoldenFrank on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m surprised at how barren the habs eye on the prize is. and didn’t every comment only tale 1 rec to turn green?

One way lima beans defend themselves is by emitting a chemical warning system against spider mites (which eat lima beans) that attracts predators of spider mites, which then in turn defends the lima beans

by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Don’t you know anything? When the Habs suck, people don’t show up.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ah. they’re smart like that

One way lima beans defend themselves is by emitting a chemical warning system against spider mites (which eat lima beans) that attracts predators of spider mites, which then in turn defends the lima beans

by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Oh we had fun that day. I think the Sens one only needs two as well.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Jan 5, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

This was pretty much the post of 2011. It’s the same kettle of fish, right?

So, apparently I can now be followed.. but no stalking. @alsonamedphil

by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I have yet to be banned anywhere. I need to step up my trolling

One way lima beans defend themselves is by emitting a chemical warning system against spider mites (which eat lima beans) that attracts predators of spider mites, which then in turn defends the lima beans

by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

you should post more pictures of water boiling devices

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I got warned once. But that’s about all.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 5, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be the language barrier thing

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 5, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

no no no…. fuck the Thrashers.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure they did that themselves.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

my record at games has been pretty bad this year…. 1-2-1. I think i’m due for a hot streak.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

I think you should give your tickets to me, I’m 1-1

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by leafer1984 on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve yet to lose this year when I’ve been there, can I have them?

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

you havent been to any games, have you?

by laple meafs on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never seen the leafs lose*

*at the ACC in a regular season game

One way lima beans defend themselves is by emitting a chemical warning system against spider mites (which eat lima beans) that attracts predators of spider mites, which then in turn defends the lima beans

by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Neither have I actually. I did in Buffalo though. Badly.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen them in Montreal twice. for blown put both times.

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by elseldo on Jan 5, 2012 4:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I haven’t seen the Leafs lose at the ACC since the 2002 ECF.

That said, I’m 0-1 at their road games so far. And going to one at Rexall in Edmonton in February.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 5, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well… not THIS year.

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by Learn2Leaf on Jan 5, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m 0-1-1. Stupid Florida beat down and the NJ OT loss.

BUT! im going to the Wild game in a few weeks. Fingers crossed

and you thought it was over...

by Bullets on Jan 5, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

eek. Well, if they’re on a hot streak, we can still be our usual slumpbusters, inc.!

by Goosemonster on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't been to a game in like 2 years but

Everytime i’ve gone to a leafs game they have won (about 5 or 6 times) except one game where it ended in a tie. Only reason it was a tie though was because a goal got called back cause Clark had his foot in the crease.

I need to go to more. I’m broke though!

by Tats16 on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If you live in the city

You should take a look on craigslist or kijiji in the afternoons of a game day on a Monday or Tuesday.

A lot of people never think to look for tickets cause all of the games are sold out, but for most Monday & Tuesday games (especially against shitty opponents) scalpers have an influx of unsold tickets

I went to 4 or 5 games last year and ended up getting tickets an hour or two before the game by calling those scalpers and getting priced at below cost for a pair.

by laple meafs on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

we tend to do well when my wife is out of town (maybe she’s in Toronto with Dion?). I’m calling a Leafs win.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m 4-0 this season. I’m wearing my lucky shirt tonight so the buds should pull out a win for ya.

by Tickle Me Aulie on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright boys, this time with FEELING.

by Goosemonster on Jan 5, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

who is our -3 puppet when we have a 9-3 repeat?

by spoonie on Jan 5, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

Still Lebda

And the beat goes on, yeah and the beat goes on, yeah. -MMRS

by GoldenFrank on Jan 5, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can someone give me a logical explanation for this?

For the 5th & 6th games of the season, Wilson played Reimer in the first game of a back-to-back against Winnipeg, and then played Gustavsson against Boston. Toronto scraped out a win over the Jets and got crushed by Boston. Several people argued this was not the correct approach because they effectively hung Gus out to dry against a better team.

Tonight the Leafs play the Jets and Gustavsson starts. On Saturday they play Detroit and I’d wager Reimer gets the Red Wings game. Other than the day of rest, this is the reverse of the situation earlier in the season, but now somehow this is wrong too?

I don’t get it. Do you play the backup against the lesser team and keep your best fresh for the tougher matchup, or do you go 100% after the winnable game against a fellow playoff bubble team?

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by clrkaitken on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

I thought everyone was arguing that it was the right move because we’d rather get 2 points than risk losing all 4.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I see where you’re confused. You think it’s possible for Wilson to ever do anything right.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I listen to Fan 590

and they reported that Willson stated that Gus will be in net until he loses.It was also peported that the leafs are casually looking at goalies , Maybe this is just to showcase Gus abit.

by wtf now on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Might the logical explanation be that Ron Wilson is doing exactly what he's saying he's doing?

And going with the hot goalie.

Gus won his last game and has been playing decent lately. Reimer has lost his last three games.

I disagree with a lot of people that say Reimer should be starting tonight. Gus has been playing well enough to at least be given the opportunity to continue until he loses.

by laple meafs on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You play the better goalie against the more meaningful game/best chance to win.

For WIN/BOS, I’d have gone Reimer-Gustavsson.
For WIN/DET, I’d go Reimer-Reimer.

That’s how I roll.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey you kids

get off my lawn! I’ll fill you with grapeshot or… is toast burning?

by dsciswe on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

huh, seems the random stupidity generator is broken

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He smells toast.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Roli? Is that you? Did you miss your flight to Ottawa?

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

forget SA% and forget GAA, i like RW’s style, Win and your in.

by power-forward on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

so if the Leafs win 9-8 tonight and gus lets in 4 floaters from the blue line he should start next game?

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Your logic is not welcome.

We don’t take too kindly to your type round these parts.

And the beat goes on, yeah and the beat goes on, yeah. -MMRS

by GoldenFrank on Jan 5, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly he makes the team produce better offensively.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be correct Ron, for you see the only meaningful stat was comparing goaltenders are wins. Never mind that sv% or GAA bullcrap. That’s for those basement dweller nerd type people. Teams are supposed to win damnit and you need to roll with a winner!

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf does anyone care who starts, as long as we win, ya some goalies let in weak goals but when the pressure is on and we are hemmed down, gus makes big saves, i dont care if its a 9-8 win

by power-forward on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Clutchiness

Who did the clutchiness analysis last season? We need to correlate it with wins.

I think clutchiness was save percentage in last 10 minutes and OT when leading/trailing by 1 or tied. Reimer was the clutchiest in the league last season if I remember correctly.

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 5, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

So Gus makes the big saves, but can’t stop the easy ones? Makes perfect sense.

by mf37 on Jan 5, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if serious or Senators fan…..

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

HE ISN’T FROM ONTERRIBLE SO HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!
GONNA GO DO MANLY THINGS AND PLAY HOCKEY OUT DOORS WITH A BEAR

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Bears are pretty good on the PK I hear

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 5, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

they can also smell menstruation

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Great. now the whole teams in danger

At least it's not Lebda.

by Nifty Mittens on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Beers are better.

by wtf now on Jan 5, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

so….if gus had 10 starts and 9 wins with a 4.0GAA and riems had 8 starts 0 wins and a 2.0GAA, who starts? THE F’N WINNER!!!

by power-forward on Jan 5, 2012 6:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No you start Reimer

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by Redonred on Jan 5, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be fucking stupid
because if gustavson had a 4.0GAA he clearly isnt the reason the Leafs were winning

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Phil would have like 80 goals already.

by Self Destructive Zones on Jan 5, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

says who?

by power-forward on Jan 5, 2012 6:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

reality?
if a goalie is letting in an average of 4 goals a night, that means the team has to score 5+ goals a night to win, go look at the NHL average of goals per game by a team, it isnt 5 that is for sure

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

and if Reimer is only letting in an average of 2 goals a game, it means the rest of the team is only scoring 1 goal a game most nights, whose fault is that? not Reimer

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not the league average, but when was the last time Ottawa allowed fewer than 4 goals, and they keep winning. Tampa looks to cement this trend tonight.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

right, but they arn’t winning because of their goaltender, and if they had a 2.0GAA goalie sitting on the bench you can bet your ass they would play him just in case they didnt score 6 goals a game

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, then how about Carolina? They suck, but whenever Ward scores a goal, they have a chance.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

carolina defies the laws of physics

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They don’t go in for too much of that science-y stuff, this is true.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s up with their alt-logo?

I mean, wouldn’t any flag serve as a hurricane warning, given how violently it was waving?

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a shame that this year will break their decade-long tradition of ‘miss the playoffs for two seasons, make a deep playoff run the third.’

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Go big or go home in April, they say.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

lol oooook then.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 5, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

and sorry, they were wolves, not bears, they are sleeping this time of year

by power-forward on Jan 5, 2012 6:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

your non-ontario bears seem like quitters to me

Resident Internet Tough Guy

by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

re: depth

It doesn’t matter how deep your pool goes, if it’s covered in algae ain’t nobody gonna want to swim in it.

The First Certified Grabbo Lover

by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Algae Depth?
JasonGuarente Jason Guarente
Cavalry comes down from Marlies: forwards Irwin, Mitchell, Ryan and Brenner all assigned to Reading. That explains why Favot was released.

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"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
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by Redonred on Jan 5, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

bye bye Irwin.

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I hope YouTube comes down to film this.

by birky on Jan 5, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We were still paying Irwin to play hockey?

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

And now you’re doing it for the benefit of Pennsylvanians.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

“benefit”

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 5, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess he’ll be shipped on the Reading Railroad. On the bright side, he’ll get $200 if he passes ‘GO’.

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 5, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad the Ricoh is located at 1967 Baltic St W.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But you can make fuel out of it...

We shall not be moved... The juice is worth the squeeze... Go Leafs Go

by ScOwL on Jan 5, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

it also has a math named after it

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m working too hard… that took me a minute

by Chi-town leafs on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Watched the whole Jets game last night, and I gotta say that 2012 is not going to be their year. Pavelec sucks and Mason won’t even wear his magic pads, so he’s useless.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

they suck pretty bad when not getting favourable refing at home

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I see a lot of complaining about refs, but in this case, it can be backed up with numbers.

Numbers I am too lazy to check now, but I’m pretty sure I saw a few weeks ago that they, indeed, lead the league in home powerplays.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at NHL.com

They’re actually 11th in home PP opportunities with 76. They’re 3rd worst in the NHL in road PP opportunities with 52.

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by Frag on Jan 5, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Though

The Jets also have the 2nd most PK opportunities at home.

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by Frag on Jan 5, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

My brain doesn’t always work so well. Maybe I was thinking of the Home-to-Road differential being the biggest?

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Im just going with the games ive watched, so I wont factor out viewer bias, but no matter who they seem to play at home, they get many favourable iffy calls, especially when they are down a goal

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Buffalo has that shit on lockdown.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

They would be 1st if they didn’t keep hosting that diving faker Savard.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

If you could argue a team that gets favorable calls at home, it's probably Pittsburgh

PP opportunities at home: 79 in 17 games (98 in 21 games; 8th in NHL)
PP opportunities on road: 78 in 21 games (8th in NHL)

PK opportunities at home: 51 in 17 games (63 in 21 games; 1st in NHL)
PK opportunities on road: 86 in 21 games (25th in NHL)

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by Frag on Jan 5, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well they do get 6 games a year versus the Devils, so I won’t begrudge them the right to refer to them as PK “opportunities”.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
Lines vs. WPG: Lupul-Connolly-Kessel. Crabb-Grabovski-Kulemin. MacArthur-Lombardi-Kadri. Boyce-Steckel-Frattin.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 PM EST reply actions  

jonasTSN1050 Jonas Siegel
D: Aulie-Phaneuf. Gunnarsson-Schenn. Gardiner-Franson. Gustavsson starts.

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"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand Mac being on the 3rd. Crabb-Lombardi-Kadri is a fine 3rd line and they might benefit from the grit Crabb brings. Re unite the MGK.

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Crabb being on the second line a new development, or one that has existed since the dawn of 2012?

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He was demoted from the 1st line slot he held last season.

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he’s been added to it occasionally. Seems like they keep trying to reunite MGK, realizing they’re still not working, and trying new combos.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly can’t remember the last time MGK played together. Before this it was Connolly mac and Kadri.

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and connolly mac and Crabb

When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.

by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Your grammar is terrible.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a sticky keyboard. Spilled some grape drink on it, so the caps lock is all screwy.

When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.

by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly I have won this argument, then.

by LeafInVancouver on Jan 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You have sir, I would reward you but I don’t want to

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, “grape drink”..

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

,

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t consider Kool Aid juice. Though it is fucking delicious

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a sperm joke.

Kulemin so hot right now, Kulemin.

by PassivelyTruculent on Jan 5, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

ok I’m lost

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by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

funny enough, so are most sperm

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 5, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the only race I ever won

When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.

by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

OH man I’m an idiot.

When losing an argument on the internet, be sure to attack someones grammar. That is the only way to save face.

by SPERO on Jan 5, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like putting Mac on the third line is to ensure enough depth to roll three scoring lines.

/thirdfirstlined

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by FiftyMissionCap on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta make sure Kule is on the Thirst line

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by jimmyp22 on Jan 5, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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