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HEY IAN WHITE! You might play with Lidstrom, but you sure don't play like him. (Photo by Abelimages/Getty Images)

If you're into advanced statistics, tonight was one of those nights that makes the Leafs' record look less sustainable. The Detroit Red Wings came to town and dominated puck possession for the vast majority of the game, while the Leafs, to their credit, managed to use their speed on the rush to cash in what few chances they had. That they walked away with a 4-3 win looks "lucky" both in terms of stats as well as in terms of observable play.

The Leafs, wait for it, have Jonas Gustavsson to thank for another solid performance in goal. To be fair, the Leafs kept the Wings to the perimeter of their zone for the most part, but there were a number of key saves made - especially in the second period, where the Leafs were out-shot 14-2 - to give the Leafs a chance.

Don't look now, but Gustavsson's save percentage on the season has crept up to .903. OK, so that's not really in any way impressive, but it's hard to knock a man that's winning.

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Overall, the shots were 40-18 in Detroit's favor, and, in the end, it was Detroit's over-confidence that gave the Leafs a hope. Toronto managed to capitalize on three defensive lapses in the first twelve minutes of the game by Detroit defencemen who basically forgot that Phil Kessel and Joffrey Lupul are fast, and can put the puck in the net.

Phil Kessel opened the scoring for the Leafs on a penalty shot, after he was hooked from behind on a breakaway. Next, it was a wicked slap shot from Dion Phaneuf, just seven seconds into the Leafs' only power play. The third Leafs' goal of the period was from David Steckel, off a beautiful rush, started in the Leafs' zone by Lupul and Kessel.

From Steckel's goal onward, more or less until the end of the game, Detroit made the Leafs' blue line look like the Maginot Line, and the play rarely left the Leafs' zone. Why Leaf defenders offer the blue line so readily is beyond me. I just can't wrap my brain around this kind of poor gap control.

One outstanding performer was Keith Aulie, who was outstanding for all the wrong reasons. That he finished with an even +/- record on the evening is something of a mystery to me. He is slow, makes horrible decisions with the puck in his own zone, and is beaten in altogether too many puck battles along the boards considering his size. He's young and will need more time on the farm. Ron Wilson needs to find himself another defenceman to play the left side.

It was an ugly, if exciting, game out there, but I'll take it. So long as Burke isn't trading away prospects or picks to get there, I'd love for the Leafs to see a little first round playoff action. I'll take all the luck I can get.

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awesome work

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I only caught a bit of the interview with Brett Lawrie. Can anyone paraphrase it?

Also, that looks like Ricky (?), JP and Lawrie. Who’s the guy on the left?

by potvin vs hextall on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Casey Janssen

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by Redonred on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Why was Campbell working the Leafs game, while Stellick worked the Habs game? Maybe one day you can trade Hughson for Cole.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If you’re into advanced statistics, tonight was one of those nights that makes the Leafs’ record look less sustainable.

Score effects. Detroit got worked in the first, Leafs got a huge lead and sat back because you’d have to be really bad to not win given that lead.

Later in the game the Leafs won and we were all happy.

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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, yes, score effects. But the thing is, the Leafs were badly outplayed even with the score being close. Your team shouldn’t get dominated just because you’re up one goal.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Leafs were very lucky first period, then got outplayed the rest of the game. Quite the nailbiter to watch in person. Woooooooooooooooooooo

I will stand beside him with an axe!

by theninjagreg on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Aulie isn’t a bad skater and he’s not a bad passer. His decision making right now is both slow and shows his inexperience.

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by birky on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Horrible decisions with the puck /= simply a bad passer. For one, I have yet to see that he’s very good at passing, and for another, I think we’d have to look for quite some time to find an example of an instance where he cleared the zone under any kind of pressure.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So, Phil Kessel can be safely called a superstar right………..

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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Not if this 2+ hour slump continues.

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by GoldenFrank on Jan 7, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

When Hughson and Simpson mentioned points in 3/4 of all Leaf games, they hinted that he might not be so streaky as we all thought. That’s about the biggest compliment those two can give the Leafs, beyond ‘they are fast.’

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah ES scoring is awesome. It’s too bad we don’t have a few more PP specialists though because while to me Kessel is more valuable than some of his peers because of ES scoring, he hurts our PK by not producing there.

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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If only we had the Wings’ PK. They’re perfect at everything, you know!

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by Frag on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We said last year: get Kessel off the PP, double shift him occasionally at evens.

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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you meant PP at the end and I agree. As a rush player he is clearly suited more to ES than PP. On the other hand I would imagine he is still good at PP scoring on a per minute basis (just not great). Let me check.

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Kessel ranks 88th on the PP in pts/60 for forwards (min 20 GP and 1.5 min/60 on the PP) with an okay 3.68.

That is okay but definitely not great. Specifically on the Leafs he looks pretty bad though. He is 5th out of the 6 forwards who have played 1.5+ min/60 and 20 GP. Ahead of only Connolly and behind MacArthur, Grabovski, Bozak, and Lupul all by a pretty significant margin.

I’ll be honest I didn’t expect him to be that far behind the rest.

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

our PP is designed to cycle until someone is open. The 2nd PP seems to be a lot more creative about this. A lot of this season the 1st PP was LBK which is built for rush offense not cycling. The 2nd PP seems to be more creative and better at cycling. This is just my uneducated guess as to why Phil isn’t producing on the PP. Also they use him as the creative winger on the high boards from where he can barely ever get off a good shot unless he’s the target. They don’t seem to target him though and try to get shots from the point a lot. Also he just doesn’t give a shit about one timers even though he has a lethal slapshot.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I think for forwards PP production is important………..that’s an area of his offensive game Kessel could certainly improve in,

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by LeafFan1989 on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And his road scoring. Dude is streaky.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

that has more to do with other teams getting favorable match-ups I think. i believe the MGK line (or at least MG) are the beneficiaries of this trade-off.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll just assume that Gardiner plays the wrong side. Why dress Aulie over Gardiner, otherwise?

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

That’s the one.

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by Chemmy on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I am confused. Don’t they both play LS?

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Turns out, Komisarek was asked to play his off-wing, rather than benching Aulie and dressing Gardiner. #firewilson

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

That would have happened regardless. Aulie and Gardiner both play LS. Komi on his off side (LS) means one of Aulie/Gardiner/Gunnar was being benched.

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m choosing to believe they just want to rest Gardiner occasionally as he gets used to the much heavier NHL schedule. Otherwise, while I thought Franson had a good game tonight, I still believe Gardiner is currently their 3rd best defenceman and not a candidate for benching.

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by Back In Black on Jan 8, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Phaneuf, Gunnarson, Liles are top 3

Changing my "Goat of The Year" player from Armstrong to Kulemin

by Gebx on Jan 8, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Liles is currently injured.

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by Back In Black on Jan 8, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

at the risk of beating a dead horse further dead

it’s worth pointing out that Gus has faced teams in the top 10 in G/game in 55% of games he’s played.

in contrast, Reimer has faced teams in the top 10 in G/game in only 17% of games he’s played.

that doesn’t give Gus a pass for bad stats. but it makes Reimer’s EV SV% seem somewhat inflated.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think anyone would argue against the fact that Gustavsson has faced the tougher opponents. Well, maybe I shouldn’t say never ….

Please don’t infer that I am saying Gustavsson = Raycroft, but I once got banned from MHH for posting an image of a kettle arguing that Budaj had been the beneficiary of sheltered starts, while Raycroft had been tasked with all the hardest opponents.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait a sec...

You got banned for a pic of a kettle? What is it with them and kettles?

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by leafer1984 on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Nah, I think Jared cornered the market on kettle pics.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Does being a top 10 team correlate with high shooting percentage?

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

top 10 goals/game correlates with goals. goals correlate with shots. so possibly not.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You can score a lot of goals by taking a lot of shots or scoring a high percentage of shots.

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

So Komisarek -2 in his first game. Thoughts?

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by BlindSight on Jan 8, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Better than 3 minor penalties that lead to 3 PPGs

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

People seem to have this idea that Komisarek is so much better than last season, but he’s really not.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 8, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe marginally.

But it makes me too angry to think about for too long.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess we could cut him some slack for his first game back

by GettinGiggy on Jan 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

One goal was bullshit and the other Franson didn’t take his man. He played fine.

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by leafer1984 on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I barely noticed him at all. That’s a good night by most standards.

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Still an upgrade over Keith Aulie.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 8, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

from cbc article about french protests in montreal
Archambault, 62, said the team had its best years when the team was stocked with francophone stars.

The Toronto Maple Leafs and other Canadian teams still make an effort to recruit players from their own backyard, and Montreal should do the same, he said.

“I think we need a minimum of at least seven or eight francophone players,” he said.

this guy does realize that the Leafs have exactly 1 player on their roster from Ontario, and 0 from the GTA, right?

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

oh. i read on and the CBC actually acknowledged this point. good on them for fact checking.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

<3 the CBC.

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by JP Nikota on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i do and i don’t. i’m hating HNiC broadcasts lately. their on-line reporting is often shoddy. and they’ve moved towards really tawdry tv programming.

but their news coverage (tv and radio) is still the best by far.

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by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I have moved pretty away from tv news for no reason other than I don’t watch much non-ondemand TV. I enjoy CBC radio though.

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Senator Fuckface or whoever. Montreal can have all the Quebec players like whatshisface and thatotherguy.

We’ll take all of the Ontario talent.

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

We’ll also keep Phil Kessel and Dion Phaneuf.

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Cause Toronto is the city MOST like Wisconsin.

Wait.

Thinking.

Yup. I am correct.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Because we already have them under contract duh.

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Except that each NHL contract has a double secret FRENCH contract, in 2 point font, which may or may not include a Must Be Traded To The Habs clause.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Why there's............

Louis “Falls Down” Leblanc
They could trade for a true Frenchman is Stephane “Scrambled Eggs” DaCosta
That’s about it.

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by SkinnyFish on Jan 8, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Vinny and Luongo!

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Random statistic;

Since Burke arrived, 10 of 23 players selected in the draft were from the OHL.

The last player from the Q drafted by the Leafs was Joel Champagne.

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by clrkaitken on Jan 8, 2012 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

Why doesn’t Kim Jong-Il post here anymore? Banned?

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

He died a few weeks ago, IIRC. It was on all news networks. 

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully his son gets the team back into the IIHF U-20 tourneys.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Which son?

Kim Power-Skate or Kim LORD-OF-ALL-HE-FUCKING-SURVEYS (plus helluva slapshot.)

Kim Power-Skate apparently has the better hockey sense.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t blame me. I voted for Kim Cattrall.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew there was something weird about her accent.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Trudeau didn’t care about her accent. Only that she would give it the ol’ college try.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Guy never backchecked anyway. OR factchecked.

So double-fuck-him.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Iggy just got his 500.

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

Iggy #500

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

nowhere near as epic as Sundin’s.

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

which was against Calgary no less

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Iggy!

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by MLS on Jan 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

Iggy just got his 500th

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

IGGY!

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

Somethigng something… Calgary guy… Something… Yawning now.

Better go to bed.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

no bed for you. You should start a blog

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I already did

It got run over with readers, fans, adulation and monied advertisers.

I came over here to escape all that.

Only thing left on my bucket list is another Leaf Cup.

Well, that and to sleep with Tina Turner.

Again.

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by not norm ullman on Jan 8, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

hehe-huh-he-huh-huh …. you said Nutbush

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow did we ever get outplayed tonight. We looked great in the first, but as soon as we scored our third goal, that was it. I thought we did a pretty good job holding down the fort against the Detroit attack, and I thought Gustavsson was solid. He’s not good enough to be our #1, but he’s still done great in his last three games.

Oh, and Hughson and Simpson were in fine form tonight, as always. #FreeBobCole

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by MLS on Jan 8, 2012 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

Gustavsson saved our asses after the third goal. I can’t believe he didn’t get any of the three stars.

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought CBC gave him the #1 star? Are the CBC 3 stars different than the actual 3 stars?

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by MLS on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m relying on Yahoo’s 3 stars, but that could be wrong.

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Lupul/Kessel/Datsyuk look like Siegel picks to me.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Gus/Datsyuk/Lupul were the HNIC 3 stars.

by c_gee on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

NHL.com says Lupul Kessel Datsyuk.

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Jim Hughson is desperately trying to be Canada’s answer to Joe Buck.

Unfortunately “the team was awful for most of the 70s and 80s” isn’t as interesting a backstory as “the Curse of the Bambino”

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by clrkaitken on Jan 8, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Jim Hughson is desperately trying to be Canada’s answer to Joe Buck.

I hope you mean Al Michaels.

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he meant Glenn Healy and Joe Morgan.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Toronto’s record since the 2011 all-star break: 39-24-11, good for 89 points in 74 games.

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Ottawa’s record since February 12th: 36-25-8, good for 80 points in 69 games.

See ya’ll in Round One (No Flyers No!)

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

do you really want that? We know what’s going to happen.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn straight.

’07 was fun, but the best hockey games of the century were when the Leafs were in the playoffs. Fuck you, Dubieliewicz.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re like…awesome

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t fuck with Borje!

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by Frag on Jan 8, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I like how the driver abandons his car and runs away.

by Spezzal Teams Playa on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Whats the most goals anyone’s ever got with no assists in a season? Steckels at 7, im sure its a lot higher but how much?

by Dr_Furious on Jan 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Here ya go

13 by McKinnon in 1926-1927

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by BCapp on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sean Bergenheim what a jackass

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by Chemmy on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Steckel's on pace to beat that record!

14 unassisted by the end of the year! That plus his faceoff prowess == extension!

Now, "wait 'till next year" looks like "Watch out for next year!" GO LEAFS GO!

by AB_Positive on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

weird that Jean Beliveau is on that list. Mind you he did score 5 goals in 3 games.

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by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t Brett Hull once score 70 goals with no assists?

by Mirinov's Nose on Jan 8, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see

Lidstrom get beat like a dead horse 5-6 times, and White couldn’t save him each time, though the Leafs only got two goals off his mistakes. Steckel got the gift of going to the net, glad all his giveaways were not Detroit goals 3 seconds later, he sure couldn’t pass worth a nickel. Lupul, Grabovski, Kadri, and some good skating otherwise to keep Detroit away from the net, but at times it seemed the only physical Leaf was Schenn, and he played only 12 minutes.

Have to forecheck and backcheck a lot better than that, but you can still get lucky…

by dsciswe on Jan 8, 2012 1:43 AM EST reply actions  

yeah Lidstrom totally sucks. What a waste of a hockey player.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

on day you are going to stick around to explain your mystical statements, and oh boy, what a day that will be

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 8, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

WIlson should put Kadri in the first line to see how well he fits there. He made nifty passes and is much more better defensively. Connolly is making a huge difference so just put Kadri in the first line for the first few shifts of the next game. If he doesn’t preform Wilson can put Connolly back on the first line

by MiniMoose on Jan 8, 2012 2:01 AM EST reply actions  

I dont think Kadri can center the first line. Hes not big enough.

Being a Leafs fan makes me bipolar.

by BlindSight on Jan 8, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

size has nothing to do with it, he just isnt that good at center

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 8, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I get so frustrated going to the pub to watch the game with friends (all of whom are Leafs fans). Heard by me during the game:

Leafs fan #1:

Time to cut our losses and trade Kadri for whatever we can get.

Leafs fan #2:

Yeah definitely. He’s been up and down from the minors too many times. Burke really ruined him. Can’t blame the kid. Definitely hope Burke gets fired soon.

Leafs fan #1:

I still can’t believe they didn’t fire him the day he traded for Kessel.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 8, 2012 2:11 AM EST reply actions  

lol PPP has ruined my ability to talk to anyone about hockey period.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Same. I have to wait to see what the other person does first. If them seem reasonably informed I’ll add in my two cents. When they say things like the above, I just smile and nod.

I haven’t talked hockey in person in three years.

by MrSmithy on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t usually go to the pub to watch the games, I usually just watch them at home and then check in here after (I find that trying to keep up in the GDT and watch at the same time just ruins the experience). I had to try very hard not to go off on them, as they are friends. I tried keeping my cool and explaining that Kadri isn’t a bust and Burke shouldn’t be fired for the Kessel trade, but after about 30 seconds my patience was wearing thin so after that I just sat there and let them go on and on about what they would do if they were the GM of the Leafs.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 8, 2012 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

trade crabb for Datsyuk, Boyce for Sedin, Greg Scott for the other Sedin and Gus for Rask. It’s so obvious I don’t know why Burke just doesn’t do it. He should be fired.

I used to love the Leafs... I still do... but I used to, too.

by Chuck Diesel on Jan 8, 2012 3:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Kadri for Mike Weaver

it's sad, but living in B.C. has caused me to hate the Canucks more than the Habs. almost.

by Kevin Costner on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Surely we’d have to throw in a package of picks to balance that deal.

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by CanadianMaple09 on Jan 8, 2012 4:39 AM EST up reply actions  

hey we’re going to need a little more from you guys for both sedins

throw in colton orr

by Wisp on Jan 8, 2012 6:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you should do something like this

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.heatfansounds.com/

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

by LeafsLover on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s amazing how many Leaf fans complain that Burke / Wilson have ‘ruined’ Kadri, but they’ll go on about how great Edmonton is, look at all those young players….. playing on a shit team with no hope of a playoff spot, burning up a year of their ELC. Yep, way better. I have friends like this who should know better, it drives me fucking mental.

That's "Da-ooo". I killed a turkey once, with a shovel.

by daoust on Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we all do. One friend of mine is especially hard on Phaneuf, saying how slow and useless he is. He also preaches that Kadri is a bust, Wilson should be fired because his line combinations suck, and Burke has been useless since he got here.

It’s incredibly frustrating.

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by MLS on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Phaneuf is slow. he’s not useless, but quick he is not.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

by Van Ryn's Neurologist on Jan 8, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldn’t say he is slow, he is “average” not fast, but mid level skating guys dont burn him with speed either

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by JaredFromLondon on Jan 8, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t worry about it. Kadri will pan out.

Canucks fans have been saying the same thing about Cody Hodgson, that Gillis and Vigneault have ruined him because of their treatment of him. He’s played for us all season, and been quietly putting up points and timely goals.

scored the game winning goal that burned Boston on saturday.

by Wisp on Jan 9, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

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